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[Marlez]

My GEDMatch results! Half Armenian half Austrian.


Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 23.84
2 Baltic 19.03
3 West_Asian 18.71
4 North_Atlantic 16.9
5 West_Med 11.45
6 Red_Sea 6.05
7 South_Asian 2.66
8 Northeast_African 0.9
9 East_Asian 0.26
10 Amerindian 0.22

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 10.72
2 Greek_Thessaly 11.02
3 Romanian 13.24
4 Central_Greek 13.3
5 Italian_Abruzzo 14.01
6 East_Sicilian 14.34
7 Ashkenazi 15.64
8 Serbian 16.69
9 West_Sicilian 16.97
10 South_Italian 17.34
11 Tuscan 18.67
12 Turkish 19.78
13 Moldavian 20.78
14 Sephardic_Jewish 21.24
15 Italian_Jewish 22.24
16 North_Italian 22.38
17 Algerian_Jewish 22.38
18 Azeri 22.65
19 Kumyk 23.71
20 Hungarian 23.74

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 54.1% Croatian + 45.9% Iranian_Jewish @ 2.18
2 54.6% Croatian + 45.4% Kurdish_Jewish @ 2.25
3 54.9% Hungarian + 45.1% Kurdish_Jewish @ 2.3
4 51.3% Kurdish_Jewish + 48.7% South_Polish @ 2.36
5 54.4% Hungarian + 45.6% Iranian_Jewish @ 2.5
6 53.5% Hungarian + 46.5% Assyrian @ 2.64
7 57.7% Moldavian + 42.3% Iranian_Jewish @ 2.86
8 51.8% Iranian_Jewish + 48.2% South_Polish @ 2.87
9 58.2% Moldavian + 41.8% Kurdish_Jewish @ 3
10 53.2% Croatian + 46.8% Assyrian @ 3.05
11 53.9% Kurdish_Jewish + 46.1% Polish @ 3.08
12 53.5% Hungarian + 46.5% Georgian_Jewish @ 3.08
13 62.3% Serbian + 37.7% Georgian_Jewish @ 3.24
14 52.8% Assyrian + 47.2% South_Polish @ 3.25
15 63.2% Serbian + 36.8% Iranian_Jewish @ 3.25
16 55.8% Lebanese_Muslim + 44.2% South_Polish @ 3.28
17 50.5% Kurdish_Jewish + 49.5% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.3
18 58.6% Assyrian + 41.4% Southwest_Finnish @ 3.34
19 50.2% East_German + 49.8% Kurdish_Jewish @ 3.34
20 57.1% Kurdish_Jewish + 42.9% Southwest_Finnish @ 3.36

[Leto]

Cool. Where in Austria and Armenia are you from? The Republic of Armenia or modern-day Turkey?

[Dušan]

Interesting results.
Try vahaduo tool:
http://vahaduo.genetics.ovh/

[ph2ter]

Your admix4:

Kurdish_Jewish + Kurdish_Jewish + Polish + Austrian_South 0.873173
Kurdish_Jewish + Kurdish_Jewish + Silesia_Germans + Polish_North_Wielkopolska 0.947947
Kurdish + Samaritan + Slovenian_Southwest + German_Thuringia 0.953484
Kurd_Sorani + Palestine_Christian + Slovenian_Southwest + German_Thuringia 1.006218

Admix2:
Czech + Kurdish_Jewish 1.408527
Czech + Iranian_Jewish 1.856401
Assyrian + Slovak 1.883428
Assyrian + Czech 2.057524

If I split you into Czech - Kurdish_Jewish parts then your K13 maps are:

https://i.imgur.com/NzprJ6J.png

https://i.imgur.com/t0vJ1zP.png

Your Austrian part looks partly Slavic.

[vbnetkhio]

Your admix4:

Kurdish_Jewish + Kurdish_Jewish + Polish + Austrian_South 0.873173
Kurdish_Jewish + Kurdish_Jewish + Silesia_Germans + Polish_North_Wielkopolska 0.947947
Kurdish + Samaritan + Slovenian_Southwest + German_Thuringia 0.953484
Kurd_Sorani + Palestine_Christian + Slovenian_Southwest + German_Thuringia 1.006218

Admix2:
Czech + Kurdish_Jewish 1.408527
Czech + Iranian_Jewish 1.856401
Assyrian + Slovak 1.883428
Assyrian + Czech 2.057524

If I split you into Czech - Kurdish_Jewish parts then your K13 maps are:

https://i.imgur.com/NzprJ6J.png

https://i.imgur.com/t0vJ1zP.png

Your Austrian part looks partly Slavic.

have you thought of making admixture distribution maps? like a map of Baltic, North Atlantic etc?
or ancient sample simialrity maps based on k13 ?

that would be cool.

[Leto]

My GEDMatch results! Half Armenian half Austrian.
I sent you a rep comment with some other calculators you might want to try. By the way, what were your commercial test results?

[ph2ter]

have you thought of making admixture distribution maps? like a map of Baltic, North Atlantic etc?
or ancient sample simialrity maps based on k13 ?

that would be cool.
That's piece of cake.

https://i.imgur.com/eMRZVaM.png

[vbnetkhio]

That's piece of cake.

https://i.imgur.com/eMRZVaM.png

could you do Baltic?

and this?
Early_Slav,28.8625,42.8625,11.9625,6.455,5.5725,0. 4425,0.5275,0.0075,1.68,0.8775,0.255,0.4525,0.0425

[ph2ter]

could you do Baltic?

and this?
Early_Slav,28.8625,42.8625,11.9625,6.455,5.5725,0. 4425,0.5275,0.0075,1.68,0.8775,0.255,0.4525,0.0425

Baltic:
https://i.imgur.com/sobbGoz.png

Early Slav

https://i.imgur.com/CP65kpG.png
https://i.imgur.com/CUgehas.png

[Leto]

@Marlez, sorry for hijacking the thread!


and this?
Early_Slav,28.8625,42.8625,11.9625,6.455,5.5725,0. 4425,0.5275,0.0075,1.68,0.8775,0.255,0.4525,0.0425
What kind of Early Slav is that? Rounded to the second decimal place:

Early_Slav,28.86,42.86,11.96,6.46,5.57,0.44,0.53,0 .01,1.68,0.88,0.26,0.45,0.04

Looks pretty much like modern Ukrainians.

[vbnetkhio]

@Marlez, sorry for hijacking the thread!

What kind of Early Slav is that? Rounded to the second decimal place:

Early_Slav,28.86,42.86,11.96,6.46,5.57,0.44,0.53,0 .01,1.68,0.88,0.26,0.45,0.04

Looks pretty much like modern Ukrainians.

average of 2 early Slavs from Hungary, one from Czechia, and that 12th century Russian.
a pretty diverse group, but they cluster together, and South Slavs are strongly pulled towards this average.

[Leto]

average of 2 early Slavs from Hungary, one from Czechia, and that 12th century Russian.
The Russian (Sungir) wasn't an early Slav though. The sample was said to be from the 1200s or around that time.

[vbnetkhio]

The Russian (Sungir) wasn't an early Slav though. The sample was said to be from the 1200s or around that time.

yes, but he didn't have any Finnic admixture yet, so he's still a pure descendant of early Slavs.

[Leto]

yes, but he didn't have any Finnic admixture yet, so he's still a pure descendant of early Slavs.
First of all, the "Finnic" admixture is not present in all Russians, let alone the other Rus offshoots (UA & BEL). Secondly, the Principality of Vladimir and Suzdal is older than that. The oldest existing cities in modern Moscow oblast were founded in the first half of XII. Pretty sure Slavs were already living in Central Russia (between Moscow, Vladimir and Ryazan) by 1000 A.D.

[vbnetkhio]

First of all, the "Finnic" admixture is not present in all Russians, let alone the other Rus offshoots (UA & BEL). Secondly, the Principality of Vladimir and Suzdal is older than that. The oldest existing cities in modern Moscow oblast were founded in the first half of XII. Pretty sure Slavs were already living in Central Russia (between Moscow, Vladimir and Ryazan) by 1000 A.D.

the Sunghir site is near Vladimir. aren't the modern Russians from there more Finnic compared to him?

he could have some Baltic pull based on his results.. :scratch: but then again it could just be a coincidence, he fits as a member of the same population as the other 3 samples.

and for most south Slavs he actually works better as a proto-Slavic proxy than the other 3.

[Leto]

the Sunghir site is near Vladimir. aren't the modern Russians from there more Finnic compared to him?

he could have some Baltic pull based on his results.. :scratch: but then again it could just be a coincidence, he fits as a member of the same population as the other 3 samples.

and for most south Slavs he actually works better as a proto-Slavic proxy than the other 3.
Well, yeah, they are but it's not huge Uralic input anyway. Meshchora is 3-5% East Eurasian, I believe. Though it depends on the individual too. Arhat's wife is 75% Vladimir/Ivanovo and she came up as "Ukranian_Belgorod" or something like that.
I wish there were more medieval Russian samples. The climate is pretty good for DNA preservation.

[andre]

@P2hter, could you share all those polish regional samples, that you have on that map?

[JerryS.]

My GEDMatch results! Half Armenian half Austrian.

if you have an Ancestry raw data file try the Mixed Mode Population Sharing regular two group oracles from Dodecad V3 and MDLP K23b. those two seem to be able to easily split groups that are different from one another instead of bouncing back and forth with an in between groups. N, S, E, W, will be grouped well. just give it a try and let us see how it works for you. Austrian is fairly S. German, but can have overlapping from N. Italy and Central European. Armenian is not close enough to any of those to cause the calculators to try to mix both...

[Marlez]

Cool. Where in Austria and Armenia are you from? The Republic of Armenia or modern-day Turkey?

Hi, my mother is Armenian-Lebanese and my father is from far East Austria.

[Chris596]

Hello my friend great results, congrats. Two days ago I found out that my great grandfather was Armenian this is why I get more West Asian in some calculators. By identity I'm Hungarian.
MDLP World models me as 86% Hungarian + 14% Armenian.

[Marlez]

Hello my friend great results, congrats. Two days ago I found out that my great grandfather was Armenian this is why I get more West Asian in some calculators. By identity I'm Hungarian.
MDLP World models me as 86% Hungarian + 14% Armenian.

Hi cool friend. I saw your photo once and you looked really Asian ancient Turkic.

[Kyp]

Hello my friend great results, congrats. Two days ago I found out that my great grandfather was Armenian this is why I get more West Asian in some calculators. By identity I'm Hungarian.
MDLP World models me as 86% Hungarian + 14% Armenian.

Wow for real? cool:thumb001:

[Scandal]

Baltic:


Early Slav


How did you do that? Can you do me?
Universe,28.69,39.52,11.43,3.62,13.02,2.30,0,0,0.4 8,0,0.23,0.72,0
I think we should open a thread for this, if it doesn't exist yet.

[Leto]

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 28.7
2 North_European 25.08
3 Atlantic_Med 18.38
4 Gedrosia 12.65
5 Southwest_Asian 11.93
6 Northwest_African 1.9
7 South_Asian 1.15
8 East_African 0.2

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 14.44
2 Greek (Dodecad) 15.45
3 Romanians (Behar) 15.75
4 O_Italian (Dodecad) 16.17
5 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 16.32
6 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 18.14
7 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 18.66
8 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 18.86
9 C_Italian (Dodecad) 18.98
10 Sicilian (Dodecad) 19.32
11 Tuscan (HGDP) 21.04
12 TSI30 (Metspalu) 21.45
13 Turkish (Dodecad) 22.3
14 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 22.41
15 Turks (Behar) 23.42
16 N_Italian (Dodecad) 23.65
17 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 23.95
18 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 25.04
19 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 25.6
20 Lebanese (Behar) 26.16

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 55.7% Iranian_Jews (Behar) + 44.3% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 2.18
2 50.9% German (Dodecad) + 49.1% Iranian_Jews (Behar) @ 2.33
3 53.8% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 46.2% German (Dodecad) @ 2.6
4 57.5% Georgia_Jews (Behar) + 42.5% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 2.73
5 57.2% Georgia_Jews (Behar) + 42.8% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 2.74
6 56% Iranian_Jews (Behar) + 44% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 2.8
7 56.3% Assyrian (Dodecad) + 43.7% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 2.98
8 56.3% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 43.7% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 2.98
9 56.4% Iraq_Jews (Behar) + 43.6% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 3.02
10 60.3% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 39.7% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 3.05
11 50.2% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 49.8% Hungarians (Behar) @ 3.12
12 50.2% German (Dodecad) + 49.8% Iraq_Jews (Behar) @ 3.24
13 60.6% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 39.4% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 3.43
14 54.4% Hungarians (Behar) + 45.6% Iranian_Jews (Behar) @ 3.48
15 50.7% Georgia_Jews (Behar) + 49.3% German (Dodecad) @ 3.66
16 53.8% Hungarians (Behar) + 46.2% Iraq_Jews (Behar) @ 3.68
17 56.7% Iraq_Jews (Behar) + 43.3% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 3.76
18 56.6% Assyrian (Dodecad) + 43.4% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 3.82
19 56.6% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 43.4% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 3.82
20 50.3% German (Dodecad) + 49.7% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) @ 4.24
Your coordinates:
Marlez,12.65,0,1.9,0,18.38,25.08,1.15,0.2,11.93,0, 28.7,0

I removed most of the pops and still the fit isn't ideal:

Target: Marlez
Distance: 3.3797% / 3.37969407
44.4 Hungarians
37.0 Assyrian
11.2 Lebanese
7.4 Bavarian_German

But it looks like your Armenian side might be more Middle Eastern than an average Armenian. Perhaps your Austrian side is also Southern-shifted.

[Scandal]

My GEDMatch results! Half Armenian half Austrian.

Your Austrian side seems slavic admixed which is not surprising since your father is from East-Austria.

[Jana]

Is your father from Burgerland?

[Marlez]

Is your father from Burgerland?

Yep! You got it right.

[Leto]

Can you also post Euro K15 and K36?

What is your testing company? Are you satisfied with the initial results?

[Jana]

Yep! You got it right.

Burgerland has large historical Croatian minority, also smaller Hungarian historical presence. Could explain Slavic shift in your Austrian side.

[Marlez]

Can you also post Euro K15 and K36?

What is your testing company? Are you satisfied with the initial results?

I PM'd Eurogenes.

I tested with MyHeritage. It's wrong and it gives me 63% Europe rather than 50%! GEDMatch is more accurate to me

[Leto]

I PM'd Eurogenes.

I tested with MyHeritage. It's wrong and it gives me 63% Europe rather than 50%! GEDMatch is more accurate to me
Why PM me only? Others may want to see it too.

Did MyHeritage give you any Jewish?

[Marlez]

Why PM me only? Others may want to see it too.

Did MyHeritage give you any Jewish?

Can you post it here?

I didn't really get any Jewish except in GEDMatch

[Leto]

Can you post it here?

I didn't really get any Jewish except in GEDMatch


Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 22.53
2 West_Asian 17.31
3 North_Sea 13.42
4 Baltic 10.99
5 Eastern_Euro 9.92
6 Atlantic 8.87
7 West_Med 7.58
8 Red_Sea 6.29
9 South_Asian 2.24
10 Northeast_African 0.86

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Ashkenazi 9.73
2 Greek_Thessaly 11.36
3 Bulgarian 12.58
4 Greek 12.66
5 Central_Greek 12.7
6 Romanian 13.13
7 Italian_Abruzzo 13.44
8 East_Sicilian 13.56
9 Serbian 15.98
10 South_Italian 16.08
11 West_Sicilian 16.47
12 Turkish 17.51
13 Tuscan 17.68
14 Sephardic_Jewish 18.78
15 Italian_Jewish 18.79
16 Moldavian 19.58
17 Azeri 19.83
18 Algerian_Jewish 20.5
19 Lebanese_Muslim 21.61
20 Turkmen 21.62

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 51% Kurdish_Jewish + 49% South_Polish @ 3.07
2 54.5% Hungarian + 45.5% Kurdish_Jewish @ 3.11
3 57.8% Moldavian + 42.2% Kurdish_Jewish @ 3.16
4 53.7% Hungarian + 46.3% Iranian_Jewish @ 3.24
5 51.9% Hungarian + 48.1% Assyrian @ 3.24
6 51.2% Kurdish_Jewish + 48.8% Ukrainian @ 3.36
7 50.1% Kurdish_Jewish + 49.9% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.37
8 53.2% Kurdish_Jewish + 46.8% Polish @ 3.46
9 54.5% Croatian + 45.5% Kurdish_Jewish @ 3.53
10 57.1% Moldavian + 42.9% Iranian_Jewish @ 3.55
11 53.6% Assyrian + 46.4% South_Polish @ 3.69
12 53.8% Assyrian + 46.2% Ukrainian @ 3.7
13 55.8% Assyrian + 44.2% Polish @ 3.73
14 55.3% Moldavian + 44.7% Assyrian @ 3.76
15 52.7% Assyrian + 47.3% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.8
16 57.2% Assyrian + 42.8% Southwest_Finnish @ 3.8
17 50.8% Iranian_Jewish + 49.2% East_German @ 3.81
18 52.4% Hungarian + 47.6% Georgian_Jewish @ 3.82
19 51.9% Croatian + 48.1% Assyrian @ 3.95
20 50% Kurdish_Jewish + 50% East_German @ 3.97

[ph2ter]

How did you do that? Can you do me?
I think we should open a thread for this, if it doesn't exist yet.

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?329898-Calculator-similarity-maps

[Rgvgjhvv]

Hello my friend great results, congrats. Two days ago I found out that my great grandfather was Armenian this is why I get more West Asian in some calculators. By identity I'm Hungarian.
MDLP World models me as 86% Hungarian + 14% Armenian.

Paternal or maternal? What's the history of Armenians in Hungary? Never heard of that before.