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Hamilcar
08-22-2020, 11:24 PM
Here some interesting facts about genetic distances in MENA :


A lebanese (no matter his religious background) is closer to a corsican or north italian than to a moroccan :


Distance to: Lebanese_Christian:Lebanese10AR37
0.10581122 French_Corsica:Corsica03708
0.11043420 French_Corsica:corsica1308
0.11124578 French_Corsica:corsica29008
0.11364989 French_Corsica:CorsicaS29908
0.11369198 French_Corsica:Corsica19508
0.11443052 French_Corsica:CorsicaS03308
0.11494212 French_Corsica:Corsica29708
0.11520199 French_Corsica:CorsicaS10208
0.11624682 French_Corsica:Corsica24508
0.11670529 French_Corsica:CorsicaS13808
0.12281800 French_Corsica:CorsicaS04208
0.12500172 Italian_Lombardy:BGD301
0.12814200 Italian_Lombardy:BGD31
0.12863938 Italian_Lombardy:ALP288
0.13057499 French_Corsica:Corsica14708
0.13364344 Italian_Lombardy:BGD28
0.13376693 Italian_Lombardy:BGD103
0.13686910 Italian_Northeast:ALP233
0.13719422 Italian_Northeast:ALP235
0.13725294 French_Corsica:corsica11908
0.13821041 Italian_Northeast:KF1800761
0.13830914 Italian_Northeast:ALP346
0.14180212 Italian_Northeast:ALP081
0.14208281 Italian_Northeast:ALP354
0.14314656 Italian_Northeast:ALP280
0.14315342 Italian_Northeast:ALP093
0.14324298 French_Corsica:CorsicaS00708
0.14459416 Italian_Northeast:KF1803129
0.14502875 Italian_Northeast:ALP506
0.15021248 Italian_Northeast:ALP435
0.15077754 Moroccan_North:MOJ2
0.16035490 Moroccan_North:MNA3
0.16043583 Italian_Northeast:ALP220
0.16503082 Moroccan_North:MNA4
0.16618390 Moroccan_North:MNA6
0.16856087 Moroccan_North:MNA1
0.16955397 Moroccan_North:MOJ6
0.17174739 Moroccan_North:MCH13
0.17941098 Moroccan_North:MOJ3
0.17967509 Moroccan_North:MOJ8
0.18205882 Moroccan:MCA14
0.18319145 Moroccan_North:MCH9
0.18453421 Moroccan_North:MNA8
0.18695777 Moroccan_North:MCH18
0.18757678 Moroccan:MCA37
0.18844116 Moroccan_North:MCH8
0.18904682 Moroccan_North:MCH16
0.19209198 Moroccan_North:MCH7
0.19219246 Moroccan_North:MNA9
0.19724042 Moroccan:MCA16
0.20038360 Moroccan:MCA7
0.20043958 Moroccan_South:ERR18
0.20521715 Moroccan:MCA9
0.21142022 Moroccan
0.21262608 Moroccan:MCA8
0.21915445 Moroccan_South:MOU6
0.21998736 Moroccan_South:MOU18
0.22235513 Moroccan_South:MOU15
0.22501588 Moroccan_South:ERR12
0.22638537 Moroccan:MCA39
0.22721024 Moroccan_South:MOU5
0.23105589 Moroccan_South:MOU12
0.25600648 Moroccan:MCA38
0.26699149 Moroccan:MCA19
0.28643758 Moroccan_South:MOU4
0.30909520 Moroccan_South:MOU11
0.36915012 Moroccan_South:MOU8
0.37326035 Moroccan_South:MOU19
0.38455229 Moroccan_South:MOU17
0.41289590 Moroccan_South:ERR11
0.44999463 Moroccan_South:ERR20
0.46299977 Moroccan_South:MOU20
0.47647322 Moroccan_South:MOU7

Distance to: Lebanese_Druze:1056
0.10289006 French_Corsica:Corsica03708
0.10650624 French_Corsica:corsica29008
0.10701289 French_Corsica:corsica1308
0.10979245 French_Corsica:Corsica24508
0.10998701 French_Corsica:CorsicaS03308
0.11014672 French_Corsica:Corsica19508
0.11016067 French_Corsica:CorsicaS29908
0.11059580 French_Corsica:CorsicaS13808
0.11178512 French_Corsica:Corsica29708
0.11356462 French_Corsica:CorsicaS10208
0.11728937 French_Corsica:CorsicaS04208
0.11994698 Italian_Lombardy:BGD301
0.11996039 Italian_Lombardy:ALP288
0.12019775 Italian_Lombardy:BGD31
0.12379196 French_Corsica:Corsica14708
0.12570840 Italian_Lombardy:BGD103
0.12591919 Italian_Lombardy:BGD28
0.12680007 Italian_Northeast:ALP235
0.12689573 Italian_Northeast:ALP346
0.12705353 Italian_Northeast:ALP233
0.12731910 French_Corsica:corsica11908
0.12879020 Italian_Northeast:KF1800761
0.13194336 Italian_Northeast:ALP093
0.13202993 Italian_Northeast:ALP081
0.13229491 Italian_Northeast:ALP280
0.13310943 Italian_Northeast:ALP354
0.13479890 Italian_Northeast:KF1803129
0.13518212 Italian_Northeast:ALP506
0.13697860 French_Corsica:CorsicaS00708
0.13863195 Italian_Northeast:ALP435
0.14146327 Moroccan_North:MOJ2
0.14955007 Italian_Northeast:ALP220
0.15329655 Moroccan_North:MNA3
0.15728844 Moroccan_North:MNA4
0.16016424 Moroccan_North:MNA1
0.16078501 Moroccan_North:MNA6
0.16332555 Moroccan_North:MOJ6
0.16569292 Moroccan_North:MCH13
0.17120229 Moroccan_North:MOJ3
0.17175463 Moroccan_North:MOJ8
0.17509207 Moroccan_North:MCH9

Distance to: Lebanese_Muslim:Lebanese10AQ127
0.11283533 French_Corsica:Corsica03708
0.11504633 French_Corsica:corsica1308
0.11760592 French_Corsica:Corsica19508
0.11850136 French_Corsica:corsica29008
0.12007035 French_Corsica:CorsicaS29908
0.12065954 French_Corsica:Corsica24508
0.12121442 French_Corsica:CorsicaS13808
0.12141861 French_Corsica:CorsicaS03308
0.12177254 French_Corsica:Corsica29708
0.12260944 French_Corsica:CorsicaS10208
0.12942627 French_Corsica:CorsicaS04208
0.13040073 Moroccan_North:MOJ2
0.13187543 Italian_Lombardy:BGD301
0.13253165 Italian_Lombardy:ALP288
0.13293223 Italian_Lombardy:BGD31
0.13584302 French_Corsica:Corsica14708
0.13863108 Italian_Lombardy:BGD103
0.13919099 Italian_Lombardy:BGD28
0.14061257 French_Corsica:corsica11908
0.14071452 Italian_Northeast:ALP235
0.14105792 Italian_Northeast:ALP346
0.14115476 Italian_Northeast:ALP233
0.14208685 Italian_Northeast:KF1800761
0.14371031 Moroccan_North:MNA3
0.14476926 Italian_Northeast:ALP081
0.14624980 Italian_Northeast:ALP354
0.14668942 Italian_Northeast:ALP093
0.14719459 Italian_Northeast:KF1803129
0.14774357 Italian_Northeast:ALP280
0.14801434 French_Corsica:CorsicaS00708
0.14856098 Moroccan_North:MNA4
0.14907085 Italian_Northeast:ALP506
0.14971090 Moroccan_North:MNA6
0.15031179 Moroccan_North:MNA1
0.15239899 Moroccan_North:MOJ6
0.15266713 Italian_Northeast:ALP435
0.15566230 Moroccan_North:MCH13
0.15956886 Moroccan_North:MOJ8
0.16130104 Moroccan_North:MOJ3
0.16179345 Italian_Northeast:ALP220
0.16195437 Moroccan:MCA14
0.16493521 Moroccan_North:MNA8
0.16578203 Moroccan_North:MCH9
0.16771445 Moroccan:MCA37
0.16859287 Moroccan_North:MCH18
0.17050973 Moroccan_North:MCH8
0.17125714 Moroccan_North:MCH16
0.17209636 Moroccan_North:MNA9
0.17298169 Moroccan_North:MCH7


A saudi is closer to aegean greeks than to moroccans :


Distance to: Saudi
0.14957623 Greek_Kos:GreeceKos2
0.15067914 Greek_Crete:Crete7
0.15121193 Greek_Kos:GreeceKos4
0.15143566 Moroccan_North:MOJ2
0.15367473 Greek_Crete:Crete4
0.15441625 Greek_Crete:B_Crete-2
0.15545638 Greek_Kos:GreeceKos7
0.15589916 Greek_Crete:Crete10
0.15649517 Greek_Kos:GreeceKos6
0.15656101 Greek_Crete:Crete6
0.15744829 Greek_Kos:GreeceKos5
0.15746072 Greek_Kos:GreeceKos1
0.15836234 Greek_Kos:GreeceKos10
0.15852969 Greek_Crete:Crete5
0.15963359 Greek_Kos:GreeceKos9
0.16023167 Greek_Crete:Crete9
0.16024112 Greek_Kos:GreeceKos8
0.16124484 Moroccan_North:MOJ8
0.16164584 Moroccan_North:MNA1
0.16234169 Greek_Crete:Crete3
0.16340585 Moroccan_North:MNA3
0.16432155 Greek_Crete:Crete2
0.16551895 Greek_Crete:B_Crete-1
0.16590857 Moroccan_North:MNA6
0.16627723 Greek_Crete:Crete8
0.16648540 Moroccan_North:MNA8
0.16737920 Moroccan_North:MOJ6
0.16840397 Moroccan_North:MNA4
0.17208098 Moroccan_North:MOJ3
0.17375210 Moroccan_North:MCH13
0.17786285 Moroccan_North:MNA9
0.17868371 Moroccan_North:MCH18
0.17912511 Greek_Peloponnese:GreeceNE252
0.17941511 Moroccan_North:MCH9
0.18163613 Greek_Peloponnese:GreeceNE231
0.18408745 Greek_Peloponnese:GreeceNE209
0.18436618 Moroccan_North:MCH8
0.18512897 Moroccan_North:MCH16
0.18521071 Moroccan_North:MCH7
0.18541459 Moroccan_South:ERR18
0.19144809 Greek_Thessaly:GreeceNE126
0.19228684 Greek_Thessaly:GreeceNE144
0.19419196 Greek_Thessaly:GreeceNE162
0.19514218 Moroccan_South:MOU6
0.20000444 Moroccan_South:MOU15
0.20173525 Moroccan_South:MOU18
0.20217119 Moroccan_South:MOU5
0.20842884 Moroccan_South:ERR12
0.21079391 Moroccan_South:MOU12
0.26077956 Moroccan_South:MOU4
0.28920726 Moroccan_South:MOU11
0.34208665 Moroccan_South:MOU8
0.35004253 Moroccan_South:MOU19
0.35957849 Moroccan_South:MOU17
0.38958986 Moroccan_South:ERR11
0.42518812 Moroccan_South:ERR20
0.43995762 Moroccan_South:MOU20
0.45201734 Moroccan_South:MOU7



Samaritans are closer to palestinians and lebanese than to ashkenazim :


Distance to: Samaritan:149532
0.03862948 Palestinian_Beit_Sahour:Beit_Sahour2
0.04024003 Palestinian_Beit_Sahour:Beit_Sahour1
0.04122541 Lebanese_Christian:Lebanese10AR37
0.04197122 Lebanese_Christian:Lebanese15AR37
0.04463498 Lebanese_Christian:Lebanese1AQ127
0.05270091 Palestinian:HGDP00676
0.05272200 Palestinian:HGDP00675
0.05909713 Palestinian:HGDP00677
0.07269235 Ashkenazi_Germany:Ashk_DE_DE_1
0.07570677 Ashkenazi_Germany:Ashk_DE_DE_4
0.07782165 Ashkenazi_Germany:Ashk_DE_DE_3
0.07884551 Ashkenazi_Poland:Ashk_PL_PL_27
0.07899717 Ashkenazi_Germany:Ashk_DE_DE_11
0.07979316 Ashkenazi_Lithuania:Ashk_LT_LT_8
0.07979348 Ashkenazi_Germany:Ashk_DE_DE_9
0.08106524 Ashkenazi_Poland:Ashk_PL_PL_28
0.08252752 Ashkenazi_Poland:Ashk_PL_PL_12
0.08376014 Ashkenazi_Germany:Ashk_DE_DE_6
0.08384120 Ashkenazi_Poland:Ashk_PL_PL_16
0.08404418 Ashkenazi_Ukraine:Ashk_UA_UA_11
0.08433625 Ashkenazi_Poland:Ashk_PL_PL_10
0.08540099 Ashkenazi_Germany:Ashk_DE_DE_2
0.08549707 Ashkenazi_Russia:Ashk_RU_RU_4
0.08580977 Ashkenazi_Germany:Ashk_DE_DE_5
0.08717758 Ashkenazi_Russia:Ashk_RU_RU_1
0.08733289 Ashkenazi_Poland:Ashk_PL_PL_13
0.08750136 Ashkenazi_Belarussia:Ashk_BY_BY_3
0.08761958 Ashkenazi_Poland:Ashk_PL_PL_14
0.08795102 Ashkenazi_Belarussia:Ashk_BY_BY_11
0.08811585 Ashkenazi_Lithuania:Ashk_LT_LT_5
0.08820755 Ashkenazi_Germany:Ashk_DE_DE_10
0.08835094 Ashkenazi_Lithuania:Ashk_LT_LT_7
0.08844710 Ashkenazi_Poland:Ashk_PL_PL_5
0.08872824 Ashkenazi_Belarussia:Ashk_BY_BY_9
0.08896880 Ashkenazi_Germany:Ashk_DE_DE_8
0.08909375 Ashkenazi_Poland:Ashk_PL_PL_8
0.08925462 Ashkenazi_Belarussia:Ashk_BY_BY_2
0.08962416 Ashkenazi_Poland:Ashk_PL_PL_21
0.09018212 Ashkenazi_Poland:Ashk_PL_PL_2
0.09043706 Ashkenazi_Lithuania:Ashk_LT_LT_4
0.09065037 Ashkenazi_Belarussia:Ashk_BY_BY_13
0.09085953 Ashkenazi_Ukraine:Ashk_UA_UA_9
0.09101724 Ashkenazi_Lithuania:Ashk_LT_LT_9
0.09103352 Ashkenazi_Poland:Ashk_PL_PL_9
0.09114743 Ashkenazi_Ukraine:Ashk_UA_UA_7
0.09151410 Ashkenazi_Poland:Ashk_PL_PL_22
0.09155901 Ashkenazi_Lithuania:Ashk_LT_LT_2
0.09174062 Ashkenazi_Poland:Ashk_PL_PL_6
0.09181576 Ashkenazi_Poland:Ashk_PL_PL_23
0.09182934 Ashkenazi_Poland:Ashk_PL_PL_24
0.09206333 Ashkenazi_Poland:Ashk_PL_PL_26
0.09214185 Ashkenazi_Lithuania:Ashk_LT_LT_10
0.09229897 Ashkenazi_Ukraine:Ashk_UA_UA_17
0.09234954 Ashkenazi_Ukraine:Ashk_UA_UA_1
0.09250643 Ashkenazi_Ukraine:Ashk_UA_UA_4
0.09267373 Ashkenazi_Ukraine:Ashk_UA_UA_13
0.09321160 Ashkenazi_Poland:Ashk_PL_PL_18
0.09333465 Ashkenazi_Poland:Ashk_PL_PL_29
0.09337676 Ashkenazi_Belarussia:Ashk_BY_BY_8
0.09355157 Ashkenazi_Ukraine:Ashk_UA_UA_16
0.09359786 Ashkenazi_Poland:Ashk_PL_PL_15
0.09392745 Ashkenazi_Ukraine:Ashk_UA_UA_15
0.09414214 Ashkenazi_Poland:Ashk_PL_PL_1
0.09417192 Ashkenazi_Ukraine:Ashk_UA_UA_14
0.09420815 Ashkenazi_Belarussia:Ashk_BY_BY_12
0.09439236 Ashkenazi_Russia:Ashk_RU_RU_9
0.09442541 Ashkenazi_Ukraine:Ashk_UA_UA_3
0.09445483 Ashkenazi_Russia:Ashk_RU_RU_11
0.09468831 Ashkenazi_Ukraine:Ashk_UA_UA_10
0.09504475 Ashkenazi_Belarussia:Ashk_BY_BY_5
0.09531788 Ashkenazi_Lithuania:Ashk_LT_LT_3
0.09546501 Ashkenazi_Russia:Ashk_RU_RU_10
0.09563906 Ashkenazi_Belarussia:Ashk_BY_BY_7
0.09610258 Ashkenazi_Russia:Ashk_RU_RU_6
0.09640349 Ashkenazi_Lithuania:Ashk_LT_LT_1
0.09675487 Ashkenazi_Lithuania:Ashk_LT_LT_6
0.09676428 Ashkenazi_Russia:Ashk_RU_RU_3
0.09693452 Ashkenazi_Poland:Ashk_PL_PL_25
0.09722055 Ashkenazi_Ukraine:Ashk_UA_UA_2
0.09734920 Ashkenazi_Russia:Ashk_RU_RU_8
0.09745749 Ashkenazi_Lithuania:Ashk_LT_LT_11
0.09800077 Ashkenazi_Belarussia:Ashk_BY_BY_4
0.09808781 Ashkenazi_Belarussia:Ashk_BY_BY_6
0.09849974 Ashkenazi_Russia:Ashk_RU_RU_2
0.09852296 Ashkenazi_Ukraine:Ashk_UA_UA_5
0.09869701 Ashkenazi_Ukraine:Ashk_UA_UA_12
0.09914428 Ashkenazi_Belarussia:Ashk_BY_BY_1
0.09985936 Ashkenazi_Belarussia:Ashk_BY_BY_10
0.10009493 Ashkenazi_Poland:Ashk_PL_PL_11
0.10068949 Ashkenazi_Ukraine:Ashk_UA_UA_8
0.10467255 Ashkenazi_Poland:Ashk_PL_PL_4
0.10669428 Ashkenazi_Russia:Ashk_RU_RU_5



Armenians are closer to turks and syrians than to georgians and chechens :


Distance to: Armenian:armenia279
0.03332197 Turkish_East:Turkish_East6
0.03355106 Turkish_Trabzon:Trabzon21173
0.03466765 Turkish_Trabzon:Trabzon21177
0.03662083 Turkish_Trabzon:Trabzon21174
0.03786106 Turkish_Kayseri:Kayseri23271
0.03958604 Turkish_Trabzon:Trabzon21515
0.04006337 Georgian_Laz:GEO19_georgian_laz
0.04157235 Syrian:Ber16AG184
0.04322254 Turkish_East:Turkish_East7
0.04389563 Georgian_Laz:GEO7_georgian_laz
0.04658751 Syrian:Ber12AG184
0.04695558 Syrian:Ber1AH252
0.04863342 Georgian_Laz:GEO10_georgian_laz
0.04866318 Turkish_Kayseri:Kayseri24075
0.04875681 Turkish_East:Turkish_East2
0.04951280 Syrian:Ber4AG112
0.04962207 Syrian:Ber3AG163
0.04970387 Syrian:Ber10AH252
0.04981478 Georgian_Laz:GEO1_georgian_laz
0.05145277 Syrian:Ber17AG181
0.05241284 Turkish_East:Turkish_East5
0.05289968 Turkish_East:Turkish_East1
0.05361948 Turkish_Istanbul:Istanbul20040
0.05523449 Turkish_Adana:Adana23113
0.05592125 Syrian:Ber7R59
0.05679882 Turkish_Istanbul:Istanbul20010
0.05701931 Turkish_Adana:Adana23133
0.05712867 Syrian:Ber17AG57
0.05763281 Turkish_Kayseri:Kayseri24276
0.05768351 Turkish_Adana:Adana23114
0.05868742 Turkish_East:Turkish_East3
0.06028108 Turkish_Central:Turkish_Central2
0.06035859 Turkish_Kayseri:Kayseri24032
0.06215447 Turkish_Kayseri:Kayseri24266
0.06247618 Turkish_Central:Turkish_Central5
0.06307289 Syrian:Ber16AG177
0.06415695 Turkish_Kayseri:Kayseri24392
0.06433453 Syrian:Ber9AG181
0.06449760 Georgian_Laz:GEO28_georgian_laz
0.06509471 Turkish_Central:Turkish_Central7
0.06573729 Turkish_Central:Turkish_Central11
0.06650327 Georgian_Imer:GEO75_georgia_imer
0.06666138 Turkish_Central:Turkish_Central12
0.06693256 Turkish_Kayseri:Kayseri23549
0.06761377 Turkish_North:Turkish_North8
0.06787915 Georgian_Imer:GEO71_georgian_imer
0.06793595 Syrian:Ber5AG112
0.06870540 Turkish_Istanbul:Istanbul19810
0.06884322 Turkish_Kayseri:Kayseri24402
0.06935430 Turkish_Kayseri:Kayseri23967
0.07048943 Turkish_East:Turkish_East8
0.07088513 Turkish_Central:Turkish_Central10
0.07104748 Turkish_East:Turkish_East4
0.07156346 Georgian_Imer:GEO51_georgian_imer
0.07183419 Turkish_South:Turkish_South3
0.07224570 Turkish_Kayseri:Kayseri23892
0.07238812 Turkish_South:Turkish_South6
0.07243373 Georgian_Imer:GEO38_georgian_imer
0.07341554 Syrian:Ber5AL16
0.07354255 Turkish_Adana:Adana23117
0.07358453 Turkish_Central:Turkish_Central9
0.07380721 Syrian:Ber5AL10
0.07444654 Turkish_Central:Turkish_Central13
0.07666053 Turkish_Northwest:Turkish_Northwest1
0.07667890 Turkish_Istanbul:Istanbul19185
0.07673430 Turkish_Southwest:Turkish_Southwest3
0.07878609 Turkish_Central:Turkish_Central6
0.07898861 Turkish_Central:Turkish_Central3
0.08019626 Georgian_Imer:GEO73_georgian_imer
0.08019902 Turkish_North:Turkish_North2
0.08110136 Turkish_Central:Turkish_Central1
0.08138163 Syrian:Ber1AM54
0.08150340 Turkish_North:Turkish_North7
0.08173097 Turkish_North:Turkish_North9
0.08254699 Turkish_Istanbul:Istanbul17778
0.08335031 Syrian:Ber13R7
0.08350647 Turkish_Istanbul:Istanbul25081
0.08374999 Turkish_Central:Turkish_Central4
0.08385114 Turkish_Southwest:Turkish_Southwest2
0.08534910 Syrian:Ber6AG118
0.08837965 Turkish_Aydin:Aydin18636
0.08889234 Turkish_Central:Turkish_Central8
0.08912363 Turkish_Adana:Adana23150
0.09196391 Chechen:089_R01C01
0.09237184 Turkish_Adana:Adana23112
0.09246982 Turkish_Southwest:Turkish_Southwest4
0.09303948 Syrian:Ber5R35
0.09370179 Turkish_Southwest:Turkish_Southwest6
0.09531137 Chechen:089_R02C02
0.09684554 Turkish_Aydin:Aydin18873
0.09745307 Turkish_Southwest:Turkish_Southwest1
0.09811814 Turkish_North:Turkish_North6
0.09839791 Turkish_Balikesir:Balikesir16790
0.09885384 Turkish_Istanbul:Istanbul19708
0.09903834 Turkish_South:Turkish_South4
0.09908026 Turkish_Northwest:Turkish_Northwest3
0.09993037 Turkish_Aydin:Aydin18112
0.10017267 Turkish_Northwest:Turkish_Northwest4
0.10031934 Turkish_Northwest:Turkish_Northwest9
0.10094519 Turkish_Southwest:Turkish_Southwest10
0.10154852 Turkish_Aydin:Aydin18784
0.10187109 Turkish_Aydin:Aydin18419
0.10208192 Turkish_Northwest:Turkish_Northwest7
0.10212854 Turkish_North:Turkish_North1
0.10233586 Chechen:202_R02C01
0.10238399 Turkish_Istanbul:Istanbul15781
0.10238399 Turkish_Rumeli:Turkish_Selanik1
0.10274961 Turkish_Southwest:Turkish_Southwest9
0.10298150 Turkish_South:Turkish_South7
0.10385837 Chechen:071_R02C02
0.10564386 Syrian:Ber12AL16
0.10582002 Turkish_North:Turkish_North3
0.10685323 Turkish_Northwest:Turkish_Northwest2
0.10774989 Turkish_Balikesir:Balikesir16837
0.10780690 Turkish_North:Turkish_North5
0.10787558 Turkish_Balikesir:Balikesir16675
0.10867850 Chechen:089_R01C02
0.10871027 Turkish_Southwest:Turkish_Southwest8
0.10903049 Turkish_Balikesir:Balikesir16653
0.11027081 Turkish_North:Turkish_North4
0.11045952 Turkish_Balikesir:Balikesir17006
0.11102283 Turkish_Rumeli:Turkish_Kilkis1
0.11149401 Turkish_Aydin:Aydin18483
0.11272028 Turkish_Balikesir:Balikesir16887
0.11277924 Turkish_Southwest:Turkish_Southwest11
0.11279103 Turkish_Rumeli:Turkish_Kircaali3
0.11322470 Turkish_Aydin:Aydin18596
0.11515353 Turkish_Deliorman:Turkish_Sumnu1
0.11542948 Turkish_Rumeli:Turkish_Gumulcine3
0.11645521 Turkish_Rumeli:Turkish_Gumulcine2
0.11657085 Turkish_South:Turkish_South1
0.11737028 Turkish_Deliorman:Turkish_Varna1
0.11873904 Turkish_Northwest:Turkish_Northwest5
0.12071532 Turkish_Southwest:Turkish_Southwest7
0.12229101 Turkish_South:Turkish_South5
0.12295879 Turkish_Rumeli:Turkish_Kircaali2
0.12301422 Turkish_Rumeli:Turkish_Kircaali4
0.12365479 Turkish_Deliorman:Turkish_Razgrad1
0.12389487 Turkish_Deliorman:Turkish_Razgrad3
0.12573644 Turkish_Rumeli:Turkish_Gumulcine1
0.12578769 Turkish_Northwest:Turkish_Northwest8
0.12780795 Turkish_Deliorman:Turkish_Razgrad2
0.12905206 Turkish_South:Turkish_South2
0.12959634 Turkish_Rumeli:Turkish_Kircaali1
0.13015817 Turkish_Deliorman:Turkish_Silistre1
0.13072452 Turkish_Istanbul:Istanbul25098
0.13140673 Turkish_Deliorman:Turkish_Silistre2
0.13246159 Turkish_Deliorman:Turkish_Eskicuma1
0.13246159 Turkish_Istanbul:Istanbul25095
0.14237947 Turkish_Northwest:Turkish_Northwest10
0.14933301 Turkish_Southwest:Turkish_Southwest5



Yemenites are closer to moroccans (7000km away) than to eritreans ( 50km away) :


Distance to: Yemenite_Mahra:Y311
0.16364186 Moroccan_North:MOJ2
0.17101166 Moroccan:MCA14
0.17325010 Moroccan_North:MNA1
0.17461663 Moroccan_North:MNA3
0.17885045 Moroccan_North:MNA4
0.17897917 Moroccan_North:MNA6
0.17899009 Moroccan:MCA37
0.17940911 Moroccan_North:MNA8
0.18453795 Moroccan_North:MCH13
0.18527919 Moroccan:MCA16
0.18973908 Moroccan_North:MCH9
0.18979761 Moroccan_North:MCH18
0.19160570 Moroccan:MCA7
0.19213171 Moroccan_North:MNA9
0.19444454 Moroccan_North:MCH16
0.19556638 Moroccan_North:MCH7
0.19676039 Moroccan_North:MCH8
0.19968486 Moroccan:MCA9
0.20211209 Moroccan
0.20437158 Moroccan:MCA8
0.21565763 Moroccan:MCA39
0.24470320 Moroccan:MCA38
0.26036444 Moroccan:MCA19
0.26161556 Eritrean:Eritrean_2
0.29803366 Eritrean:Eritrean_3
0.31466299 Eritrean:Eritrean_1

Distance to: Yemenite_Ma'rib:Y219
0.14507691 Moroccan_North:MOJ2
0.15208685 Moroccan:MCA14
0.15501423 Moroccan_North:MNA1
0.15577395 Moroccan_North:MNA3
0.15906050 Moroccan_North:MNA8
0.15925325 Moroccan_North:MNA6
0.16010513 Moroccan_North:MNA4
0.16146135 Moroccan:MCA37
0.16679934 Moroccan:MCA16
0.16790993 Moroccan_North:MCH13
0.16919909 Moroccan_North:MNA9
0.17228282 Moroccan_North:MCH18
0.17293911 Moroccan_North:MCH9
0.17300840 Moroccan:MCA7
0.17781924 Moroccan_North:MCH7
0.17837325 Moroccan_North:MCH16
0.17944831 Moroccan_North:MCH8
0.18285933 Moroccan
0.18325385 Moroccan:MCA9
0.18441145 Moroccan:MCA8
0.19676500 Moroccan:MCA39
0.22452295 Moroccan:MCA38
0.24034610 Moroccan:MCA19
0.24582808 Eritrean:Eritrean_2
0.28284111 Eritrean:Eritrean_3
0.30048183 Eritrean:Eritrean_1

Distance to: Yemenite_Dhamar:Y018
0.12286094 Moroccan_North:MOJ2
0.13452709 Moroccan:MCA14
0.13479880 Moroccan_North:MNA3
0.13672539 Moroccan_North:MNA1
0.13909349 Moroccan_North:MNA6
0.14119653 Moroccan_North:MNA4
0.14323098 Moroccan_North:MNA8
0.14667622 Moroccan:MCA37
0.14820044 Moroccan_North:MNA9
0.14969250 Moroccan:MCA16
0.15025049 Moroccan_North:MCH13
0.15287947 Moroccan_North:MCH18
0.15421946 Moroccan:MCA7
0.15424687 Moroccan_North:MCH9
0.15726730 Moroccan_North:MCH8
0.15920852 Moroccan_North:MCH7
0.16177742 Moroccan_North:MCH16
0.16374876 Moroccan
0.16530337 Moroccan:MCA8
0.16541623 Moroccan:MCA9
0.17435622 Moroccan:MCA39
0.20553155 Moroccan:MCA38
0.22065355 Moroccan:MCA19
0.23043120 Eritrean:Eritrean_2
0.26761540 Eritrean:Eritrean_3
0.28305743 Eritrean:Eritrean_1

Distance to: Yemenite_Amran:Y518
0.14256794 Moroccan_North:MOJ2
0.15326375 Moroccan:MCA14
0.15584989 Moroccan_North:MNA1
0.15648958 Moroccan_North:MNA3
0.15834620 Moroccan_North:MNA6
0.16138712 Moroccan_North:MNA4
0.16379514 Moroccan_North:MNA8
0.16536562 Moroccan:MCA37
0.16677478 Moroccan_North:MCH13
0.17161605 Moroccan:MCA16
0.17286911 Moroccan_North:MNA9
0.17336793 Moroccan_North:MCH9
0.17448807 Moroccan_North:MCH18
0.17735271 Moroccan:MCA7
0.17863734 Moroccan_North:MCH8
0.18089351 Moroccan_North:MCH7
0.18185846 Moroccan_North:MCH16
0.18456527 Moroccan:MCA9
0.18522807 Moroccan
0.18660117 Moroccan:MCA8
0.19669829 Moroccan:MCA39
0.22619766 Moroccan:MCA38
0.24249180 Moroccan:MCA19
0.25047171 Eritrean:Eritrean_2
0.28713792 Eritrean:Eritrean_3
0.30248956 Eritrean:Eritrean_1

Distance to: Yemenite_Al_Jawf:Y217
0.13736951 Moroccan_North:MOJ2
0.14344458 Moroccan:MCA14
0.14772219 Moroccan_North:MNA1
0.15061011 Moroccan_North:MNA8
0.15078579 Moroccan_North:MNA3
0.15270459 Moroccan:MCA37
0.15335127 Moroccan_North:MNA6
0.15523147 Moroccan_North:MNA4
0.15737177 Moroccan:MCA16
0.16042018 Moroccan_North:MCH13
0.16169812 Moroccan_North:MNA9
0.16337914 Moroccan:MCA7
0.16452990 Moroccan_North:MCH18
0.16723252 Moroccan_North:MCH9
0.17119030 Moroccan_North:MCH16
0.17166856 Moroccan_North:MCH7
0.17242868 Moroccan_North:MCH8
0.17246973 Moroccan
0.17451559 Moroccan:MCA8
0.17532958 Moroccan:MCA9
0.18601649 Moroccan:MCA39
0.21250395 Moroccan:MCA38
0.22781866 Moroccan:MCA19
0.23067922 Eritrean:Eritrean_2
0.26657397 Eritrean:Eritrean_3
0.28385927 Eritrean:Eritrean_1

Distance to: Yemenite_Al_Bayda:Y070
0.13775174 Moroccan_North:MOJ2
0.14293400 Moroccan:MCA14
0.14725389 Moroccan_North:MNA1
0.14734653 Moroccan_North:MNA8
0.15022377 Moroccan:MCA37
0.15048494 Moroccan_North:MNA3
0.15189831 Moroccan_North:MNA6
0.15219789 Moroccan_North:MNA4
0.15638049 Moroccan:MCA16
0.15964483 Moroccan_North:MCH13
0.16123785 Moroccan_North:MNA9
0.16316760 Moroccan:MCA7
0.16418951 Moroccan_North:MCH18
0.16627238 Moroccan_North:MCH9
0.16976158 Moroccan_North:MCH16
0.17051527 Moroccan_North:MCH7
0.17171284 Moroccan_North:MCH8
0.17228870 Moroccan
0.17445231 Moroccan:MCA8
0.17565016 Moroccan:MCA9
0.18681364 Moroccan:MCA39
0.21285726 Moroccan:MCA38
0.22820939 Moroccan:MCA19
0.23457268 Eritrean:Eritrean_2
0.26990588 Eritrean:Eritrean_3
0.28859123 Eritrean:Eritrean_1


Overall a tunisian is closer to palestinians, lebanese and jordanians than to maltese people :


Distance to: Tunisian:Tunisian20B4
0.09406741 Palestinian:HGDP00685
0.10134350 Palestinian:HGDP00683
0.10322695 Jordanian:Jordan307
0.10734641 Jordanian:GS000016181
0.11437822 Palestinian:HGDP00676
0.11560852 Palestinian:HGDP00689
0.11571660 Palestinian:HGDP00684
0.11663624 Palestinian:HGDP00677
0.11832631 Palestinian:HGDP00690
0.12015039 Jordanian:Jordan214
0.12059980 Palestinian:HGDP00688
0.12066170 Palestinian:HGDP00675
0.12189643 Palestinian:HGDP00679
0.12221138 Jordanian:Jordan387
0.12356840 Jordanian:GS000014474
0.13330213 Lebanese_Muslim:Lebanese30AR21
0.13649829 Lebanese_Muslim:Lebanese2AQ121
0.13703108 Lebanese_Muslim:Lebanese2AQ127
0.13755665 Lebanese_Muslim:Lebanese10AQ127
0.13771318 Maltese:Malta16AM91
0.13858905 Lebanese_Muslim:Lebanese6AS15
0.14185147 Lebanese_Muslim:Lebanese11AS14
0.14190353 Lebanese_Druze:799
0.14196033 Lebanese_Muslim:Lebanese24AR27
0.14279152 Lebanese_Muslim:Lebanese7AR23
0.14396110 Lebanese_Christian:Lebanese15AR37
0.14595932 Maltese:Malta12AM91
0.14688572 Maltese:Malta2AM91
0.14708864 Lebanese_Druze:1247
0.14808345 Lebanese_Muslim:Lebanese7AR20
0.14839477 Maltese:Malta17AM91
0.14845655 Lebanese_Christian:Lebanese1AQ127
0.14871307 Lebanese_Druze:1056
0.14887826 Lebanese_Christian:Lebanese4AQ115
0.14926555 Lebanese_Christian:Lebanese1AQ170
0.14972835 Maltese:Malta7AM91
0.15002504 Lebanese_Druze:981
0.15005887 Palestinian_Beit_Sahour:Beit_Sahour1
0.15008050 Lebanese_Druze:252
0.15023718 Lebanese_Druze:1153
0.15025021 Lebanese_Christian:Lebanese6AQ115
0.15051747 Lebanese_Druze:971
0.15086345 Lebanese_Muslim:Lebanese20AR21
0.15163123 Palestinian_Beit_Sahour:Beit_Sahour2
0.15176318 Lebanese_Christian:Lebanese22BA23
0.15180737 Lebanese_Druze:1271
0.15183751 Lebanese_Druze:927
0.15239090 Lebanese_Christian:Lebanese6AQ170
0.15239639 Lebanese_Druze:555
0.15277874 Lebanese_Christian:Lebanese8AS15
0.15427306 Lebanese_Muslim:Lebanese7AQ150
0.15557746 Maltese:Malta15AM91
0.15735485 Lebanese_Christian:Lebanese10AR37
0.15904689 Maltese:Malta4AM91



Egyptians are a little bit more closer to iberians than moroccans are (and as close to iberians than north moroccans) :



Distance to: Moroccan:MCA14
0.15827638 Spanish_Canarias:CAN924
0.16423668 Spanish_Canarias:CAN1
0.17032383 Spanish_Canarias:CAN13
0.17334996 Spanish_Canarias:CAN2
0.17504070 Spanish_Canarias:CAN10
0.17955780 Spanish_Canarias:CAN1220
0.18564422 Spanish_Canarias:HG01695
0.18581412 Spanish_Canarias:HG01694
0.18583656 Spanish_Canarias:CAN19
0.18706449 Spanish_Canarias:CAN11
0.18736786 Spanish_Canarias:CAN1920
0.18774583 Spanish_Canarias:CAN17
0.18903448 Spanish_Canarias:CAN956
0.19199957 Spanish_Canarias:CAN4
0.19276425 Spanish_Canarias:CAN12
0.19329437 Spanish_Canarias:CAN3
0.20052250 Spanish_Canarias:CAN18
0.20084532 Spanish_Canarias:CAN9
0.20174972 Portuguese:Portugal4
0.20218688 Portuguese:EBC_Portugal2
0.20296828 Spanish_Extremadura:HG01509
0.20416522 Portuguese:Portugal6
0.20491947 Spanish_Canarias:CAN884
0.20526532 Spanish_Galicia:HG01704
0.20701304 Spanish_Andalucia:AND77
0.20795542 Spanish_Andalucia:AND7
0.20819787 Portuguese:Portugal12
0.20839598 Spanish_Extremadura:HG01527
0.20862232 Portuguese:Portugal10
0.20874071 Spanish_Galicia:HG01685
0.20897358 Spanish_Andalucia:AND2
0.20958499 Spanish_Andalucia:AND80
0.20962277 Portuguese:EBC_Portugal7
0.20967020 Portuguese:EBC_Portugal11
0.21017887 Portuguese:EBC_Portugal13
0.21025360 Portuguese:EBC_Portugal10
0.21069411 Portuguese:Portugal13
0.21080606 Spanish_Andalucia:AND36
0.21131319 Portuguese:EBC_Portugal12
0.21136297 Portuguese:EBC_Portugal3
0.21139421 Spanish_Andalucia:AND75
0.21217699 Portuguese:Portugal15
0.21250612 Spanish_Andalucia:AND14
0.21259355 Portuguese:Portugal14
0.21292830 Spanish_Andalucia:HG01623
0.21349692 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon:HG01500
0.21352052 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon:HG01501
0.21377144 Spanish_Galicia:GAL8
0.21384868 Spanish_Andalucia:AND86
0.21428473 Spanish_Murcia:HG01697
0.21444791 Spanish_Galicia:GAL35
0.21454687 Spanish_Galicia:GAL21
0.21466002 Spanish_Galicia:GAL48
0.21485802 Spanish_Pirineu:CAR212
0.21487513 Portuguese:EBC_Portugal9
0.21499132 Portuguese:EBC_Portugal1
0.21510544 Spanish_Eivissa:CAR256
0.21586555 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona:FOR094
0.21596266 Spanish_Galicia:GAL71
0.21632845 Spanish_Andalucia:AND84
0.21664397 Spanish_Murcia:HG01618
0.21679393 Spanish_Mallorca:ALE339
0.21747439 Spanish_Eivissa:EIV011_2
0.21766038 Spanish_Murcia:HG01699
0.21777223 Portuguese:Portugal3
0.21786148 Portuguese:Portugal8
0.21829977 Portuguese:EBC_Portugal6
0.21875372 Spanish_Andalucia:HG01620
0.21876209 Spanish_Menorca:FER054
0.21895010 Spanish_Alacant:MAS064
0.21935233 Spanish_Eivissa:EIV004_2
0.21936395 Spanish_Galicia:GAL3
0.21962671 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha:HG01504
0.21976716 Portuguese:Portugal5
0.22007741 Spanish_Eivissa:EIV012_2
0.22020900 Portuguese:Portugal1
0.22033890 Spanish_Andalucia:AND10
0.22040851 Spanish_Galicia:GAL74
0.22049223 Spanish_Murcia:HG01617
0.22062317 Spanish_Galicia:GAL11
0.22070485 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha:HG02238
0.22079098 Portuguese:Portugal11
0.22080941 Spanish_Andalucia:AND4
0.22082719 Spanish_Alacant:NAC135
0.22106190 Portuguese:Portugal2
0.22134347 Spanish_Alacant:CAR257
0.22162019 Spanish_Menorca:GUS007
0.22173539 Spanish_Alacant:SLA017
0.22216895 Spanish_Andalucia:AND39
0.22216930 Spanish_Eivissa:GUS203
0.22218482 Spanish_Galicia:GAL25
0.22234877 Spanish_Andalucia:AND43
0.22235413 Spanish_Galicia:GAL15
0.22238803 Spanish_Galicia:GAL20
0.22250594 Spanish_Galicia:GAL16
0.22252939 Spanish_Galicia:GAL26
0.22257621 Portuguese:Portugal7
0.22291427 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona:GRA011
0.22295894 Spanish_Asturias:Asturias1
0.22318670 Spanish_Andalucia:HG01619
0.22323239 Spanish_Girona:ROB127
0.22358122 Spanish_Extremadura:HG01510
0.22378289 Spanish_Galicia:GAL44
0.22392887 Spanish_Mallorca:ROI096
0.22400931 Spanish_Castello:PIT001
0.22405728 Spanish_Castello:SAB019
0.22420840 Spanish_Baleares:HG01625
0.22467081 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona:BOS029
0.22467385 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon:HG01506
0.22480945 Spanish_Andalucia:AND18
0.22509232 Spanish_Andalucia:AND46
0.22524722 Spanish_Baleares:HG01615
0.22549332 Spanish_Eivissa:SER064
0.22565516 Spanish_Eivissa:GUS199
0.22578629 Spanish_Cataluna:HG01761
0.22580059 Spanish_Eivissa:EIV010_2
0.22581339 Spanish_Galicia:GAL24
0.22612365 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha:HG01503
0.22613184 Spanish_Penedes:BOS015
0.22618367 Spanish_Galicia:HG01686
0.22622180 Spanish_Cantabria:HG01679
0.22631916 Spanish_Navarra:Navarra1
0.22646011 Spanish_Mallorca:GRA135
0.22655017 Spanish_Eivissa:EIV009_2
0.22657347 Spanish_Andalucia:AND33
0.22662116 Spanish_Aragon:HG01675
0.22664497 Spanish_Catalunya_Central:CAR007
0.22676056 Spanish_Alacant:ALE009
0.22678823 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona:GUL190
0.22698444 Spanish_Eivissa:EIV014_2
0.22768334 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona:FOR067
0.22792398 Spanish_Cataluna:HG01537
0.22795619 Spanish_Mallorca:MEL022
0.22821821 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona:RIC106
0.22834293 Spanish_Navarra:Navarra2
0.22836973 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona:COM032
0.22846644 Spanish_Mallorca:SLM078
0.22853945 Spanish_Lleida:FER015
0.22854464 Spanish_Eivissa:EIV015_2
0.22859009 Spanish_Eivissa:EIV001_2
0.22890831 Spanish_Baleares:HG01613
0.22902293 Spanish_Girona:ROI027
0.22942256 Spanish_Aragon:HG01678
0.22981604 Spanish_Pirineu:FER101
0.22982390 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre:GUS008
0.22983124 Spanish_Lleida:RIC076
0.22985928 Spanish_Aragon:HG01673
0.22992711 Spanish_Penedes:GUS029
0.22998144 Spanish_Girona:ROB116
0.23034310 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona:ARM005
0.23039217 Spanish_Pirineu:SER011
0.23088504 Spanish_Penedes:STC091
0.23091136 Spanish_Lleida:FOR066
0.23102163 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona:ROS008
0.23126608 Spanish_Mallorca:SOL053
0.23137108 Spanish_Lleida:FER007
0.23139165 Spanish_Menorca:PON058
0.23146041 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona:SER027
0.23148912 Spanish_Eivissa:EIV013_2
0.23149484 Spanish_Mallorca:CAL026
0.23165822 Spanish_La_Rioja:La_Rioja1
0.23166687 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona:FER039
0.23166856 Spanish_Alacant:ALE005
0.23168164 Spanish_Penedes:VID003
0.23177550 Spanish_Castello:BOS027
0.23179331 Spanish_Catalunya_Central:SOL051
0.23220096 Spanish_Mallorca:MAY035
0.23222371 Spanish_Girona:REI087
0.23304321 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona:VID048
0.23313899 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha:HG01746
0.23319837 Spanish_Barcelones:GUS119
0.23336251 Spanish_Cataluna:HG01536
0.23360899 Spanish_Penedes:VID037
0.23365565 Spanish_Girona:FER052
0.23390633 Spanish_Girona:MOR061
0.23438963 Spanish_Penedes:FER023
0.23465703 Spanish_Cantabria:HG01513
0.23466772 Spanish_Girona:BOS011
0.23492111 Spanish_Castello:ALB231
0.23492281 Spanish_Barcelones:SER015
0.23500018 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona:ROI042
0.23504566 Spanish_Penedes:SAB014
0.23516715 Spanish_Lleida:MST075
0.23523345 Spanish_Catalunya_Central:VID057
0.23553541 Spanish_Lleida:ROS005
0.23554384 Spanish_Barcelones:GUS040
0.23589133 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre:GRA020
0.23597234 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona:MAS016
0.23605650 Spanish_Castello:CAR023
0.23609714 Spanish_Aragon:HG01676
0.23622569 Spanish_Catalunya_Central:MAS003
0.23628589 Spanish_Catalunya_Central:VID044
0.23632574 Spanish_Castello:CAR200
0.23644767 Spanish_Barcelones:COD147
0.23651177 Spanish_Penedes:ROB016
0.23735628 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona:MOR068
0.23748946 Spanish_Catalunya_Central:CAL107
0.23780609 Spanish_Girona:SER018
0.23840076 Spanish_Penedes:ROS025
0.23858276 Spanish_Catalunya_Central:SOL083

Distance to: Egyptian:10AJ137
0.13241767 Spanish_Canarias:CAN924
0.13517376 Spanish_Canarias:CAN1
0.14053927 Spanish_Canarias:CAN2
0.14320293 Spanish_Canarias:CAN13
0.14423568 Spanish_Canarias:CAN1220
0.14440960 Spanish_Canarias:CAN10
0.15216182 Spanish_Canarias:CAN17
0.15322090 Spanish_Canarias:CAN11
0.15388000 Spanish_Canarias:HG01694
0.15576605 Spanish_Canarias:CAN19
0.15676649 Spanish_Canarias:CAN956
0.15750550 Spanish_Canarias:HG01695
0.15889442 Spanish_Canarias:CAN1920
0.16085073 Spanish_Canarias:CAN12
0.16260119 Spanish_Canarias:CAN3
0.16385779 Spanish_Canarias:CAN4
0.16448990 Portuguese:EBC_Portugal2
0.16486667 Spanish_Canarias:CAN9
0.16658132 Spanish_Canarias:CAN18
0.16739023 Spanish_Extremadura:HG01509
0.16826306 Portuguese:Portugal6
0.16950213 Spanish_Canarias:CAN884
0.16968026 Spanish_Galicia:HG01704
0.17160472 Portuguese:Portugal4
0.17161737 Portuguese:EBC_Portugal7
0.17172658 Portuguese:Portugal12
0.17205885 Spanish_Andalucia:AND7
0.17261611 Spanish_Galicia:HG01685
0.17432207 Spanish_Extremadura:HG01527
0.17475030 Portuguese:EBC_Portugal11
0.17499437 Portuguese:Portugal15
0.17501133 Portuguese:Portugal13
0.17530312 Portuguese:EBC_Portugal3
0.17533963 Portuguese:Portugal10
0.17632077 Spanish_Eivissa:CAR256
0.17633604 Spanish_Andalucia:AND77
0.17648583 Portuguese:EBC_Portugal13
0.17653132 Spanish_Andalucia:AND86
0.17658565 Spanish_Andalucia:AND36
0.17664018 Spanish_Andalucia:HG01623
0.17675675 Portuguese:EBC_Portugal12
0.17696336 Spanish_Andalucia:AND2
0.17708373 Spanish_Murcia:HG01697
0.17716145 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona:FOR094
0.17752947 Portuguese:EBC_Portugal10
0.17779406 Spanish_Andalucia:AND80
0.17819486 Spanish_Andalucia:AND14
0.17906315 Spanish_Andalucia:AND75
0.17929140 Portuguese:Portugal14
0.17955583 Portuguese:Portugal5
0.17958256 Spanish_Eivissa:EIV004_2
0.17981179 Spanish_Galicia:GAL35
0.17985079 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon:HG01500
0.17991501 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon:HG01501
0.18022274 Portuguese:EBC_Portugal1
0.18037845 Spanish_Mallorca:ALE339
0.18049268 Spanish_Galicia:GAL48
0.18089743 Spanish_Menorca:FER054
0.18110617 Spanish_Galicia:GAL8
0.18110941 Portuguese:EBC_Portugal9
0.18120240 Spanish_Galicia:GAL71
0.18150959 Spanish_Galicia:GAL21
0.18173057 Spanish_Andalucia:AND84
0.18185731 Spanish_Murcia:HG01699
0.18188092 Spanish_Andalucia:HG01620
0.18220731 Spanish_Alacant:MAS064
0.18243799 Spanish_Galicia:GAL20
0.18246181 Spanish_Andalucia:AND39
0.18264703 Spanish_Eivissa:EIV012_2
0.18272633 Portuguese:Portugal8
0.18303591 Spanish_Menorca:GUS007
0.18308228 Spanish_Murcia:HG01618
0.18322305 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha:HG01504
0.18351953 Spanish_Eivissa:GUS203
0.18382478 Spanish_Murcia:HG01617
0.18389315 Spanish_Eivissa:EIV011_2
0.18395275 Spanish_Pirineu:CAR212
0.18417664 Spanish_Girona:ROB127
0.18422446 Spanish_Andalucia:AND43
0.18424939 Spanish_Mallorca:ROI096
0.18445035 Spanish_Galicia:GAL3
0.18448779 Spanish_Alacant:SLA017
0.18470059 Spanish_Andalucia:HG01619
0.18472446 Spanish_Alacant:CAR257
0.18484964 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha:HG02238
0.18497733 Portuguese:EBC_Portugal6
0.18523888 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona:GRA011
0.18525378 Spanish_Eivissa:EIV001_2
0.18533320 Portuguese:Portugal1
0.18533938 Spanish_Catalunya_Central:CAR007
0.18544874 Spanish_Mallorca:GRA135
0.18551848 Spanish_Galicia:GAL16
0.18562583 Spanish_Baleares:HG01615
0.18596766 Spanish_Eivissa:SER064
0.18616800 Portuguese:Portugal3
0.18626081 Spanish_Baleares:HG01625
0.18641269 Spanish_Andalucia:AND10
0.18657097 Spanish_Galicia:GAL11
0.18696127 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona:BOS029
0.18699296 Portuguese:Portugal2
0.18714793 Spanish_Eivissa:GUS199
0.18722527 Portuguese:Portugal11
0.18742845 Spanish_Castello:PIT001
0.18753992 Spanish_Alacant:NAC135
0.18759622 Spanish_Penedes:BOS015
0.18769026 Spanish_Galicia:GAL15
0.18771999 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha:HG01503
0.18778085 Spanish_Galicia:GAL74
0.18780671 Spanish_Extremadura:HG01510
0.18798469 Portuguese:Portugal7
0.18846102 Spanish_Andalucia:AND4
0.18863716 Spanish_Mallorca:MEL022
0.18869572 Spanish_Andalucia:AND18
0.18875852 Spanish_Castello:SAB019
0.18886122 Spanish_Eivissa:EIV010_2
0.18891688 Spanish_Galicia:GAL25
0.18893593 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona:FOR067
0.18894365 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon:HG01506
0.18911190 Spanish_Galicia:GAL26
0.18923637 Spanish_Andalucia:AND33
0.18925909 Spanish_Galicia:GAL44
0.18972593 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre:GUS008
0.18979234 Spanish_Girona:ROI027
0.18986612 Spanish_Alacant:ALE009
0.19012651 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona:RIC106
0.19017782 Spanish_Cataluna:HG01537
0.19023758 Spanish_Lleida:FER015
0.19027936 Spanish_Eivissa:EIV009_2
0.19030532 Spanish_Baleares:HG01613
0.19033825 Spanish_Eivissa:EIV014_2
0.19049741 Spanish_Mallorca:SOL053
0.19066885 Spanish_Penedes:GUS029
0.19068963 Spanish_Andalucia:AND46
0.19075669 Spanish_Eivissa:EIV015_2
0.19100742 Spanish_Navarra:Navarra1
0.19103097 Spanish_Galicia:HG01686
0.19105409 Spanish_Mallorca:SLM078
0.19147480 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona:GUL190
0.19160299 Spanish_Asturias:Asturias1
0.19198632 Spanish_Cantabria:HG01679
0.19223451 Spanish_Menorca:PON058
0.19242030 Spanish_Mallorca:CAL026
0.19260189 Spanish_Pirineu:SER011
0.19269196 Spanish_Navarra:Navarra2
0.19294599 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona:COM032
0.19308809 Spanish_Alacant:ALE005
0.19309484 Spanish_Galicia:GAL24
0.19321780 Spanish_Aragon:HG01678
0.19338965 Spanish_Penedes:STC091
0.19344605 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona:ARM005
0.19354807 Spanish_Eivissa:EIV013_2
0.19379655 Spanish_Lleida:RIC076
0.19401596 Spanish_Girona:MOR061
0.19422347 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona:MAS016
0.19422638 Spanish_Aragon:HG01673
0.19431989 Spanish_Girona:ROB116
0.19445764 Spanish_Aragon:HG01675
0.19450114 Spanish_Cataluna:HG01761
0.19454360 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona:FER039
0.19476003 Spanish_Castello:BOS027
0.19499025 Spanish_Girona:REI087
0.19516022 Spanish_Mallorca:MAY035
0.19531165 Spanish_Lleida:FER007
0.19551645 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona:SER027
0.19552719 Spanish_Penedes:VID003
0.19568503 Spanish_Pirineu:FER101
0.19589059 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona:ROS008
0.19589762 Spanish_Catalunya_Central:SOL051
0.19593124 Spanish_Lleida:FOR066
0.19597669 Spanish_Castello:CAR023
0.19599466 Spanish_Barcelones:SER015
0.19608574 Spanish_Penedes:ROB016
0.19610899 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona:VID048
0.19640158 Spanish_Barcelones:GUS040
0.19664010 Spanish_La_Rioja:La_Rioja1
0.19684515 Spanish_Barcelones:GUS119
0.19686861 Spanish_Girona:BOS011
0.19744793 Spanish_Cataluna:HG01536
0.19795201 Spanish_Girona:SER018
0.19804216 Spanish_Penedes:SAB014
0.19810306 Spanish_Castello:ALB231
0.19812191 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre:GRA020
0.19833717 Spanish_Penedes:ALE088
0.19833824 Spanish_Penedes:VID037
0.19834787 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha:HG01746
0.19841996 Spanish_Lleida:ROS005
0.19868982 Spanish_Lleida:MST075
0.19877064 Spanish_Cantabria:HG01513
0.19878295 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona:ROI042
0.19886356 Spanish_Girona:FER052
0.19891107 Spanish_Lleida:MIQ133
0.19910882 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona:MOR068
0.19913684 Spanish_Catalunya_Central:VID044
0.19928236 Spanish_Penedes:FER023
0.19936772 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona:GUS202
0.19981543 Spanish_Catalunya_Central:SOL083
0.19981807 Spanish_Catalunya_Central:MAS003
0.19997166 Spanish_Penedes:ROS025
0.20022211 Spanish_Catalunya_Central:CAL107
0.20093749 Spanish_Aragon:HG01676



In their great majority turks are closer to syrians than to greeks (exceptions are turks from istanbul, deliorman and rumeli) :


Distance to: Turkish_Trabzon
0.06726746 Syrian
0.09015519 Greek_Peloponnese
0.10233560 Greek_Thessaly

Distance to: Turkish_Southwest
0.09046264 Syrian
0.10301129 Greek_Peloponnese
0.10907381 Greek_Thessaly

Distance to: Turkish_South
0.09113506 Syrian
0.11188200 Greek_Peloponnese
0.11748364 Greek_Thessaly

Distance to: Turkish_Rumeli
0.06303001 Greek_Thessaly
0.06366173 Greek_Peloponnese
0.10384501 Syrian

Distance to: Turkish_Northwest
0.09629236 Syrian
0.10183895 Greek_Peloponnese
0.10586410 Greek_Thessaly

Distance to: Turkish_North
0.08561746 Syrian
0.09952071 Greek_Peloponnese
0.10503548 Greek_Thessaly

Distance to: Turkish_Kayseri
0.05784511 Syrian
0.08428646 Greek_Peloponnese
0.09297761 Greek_Thessaly

Distance to: Turkish_Istanbul
0.06873728 Greek_Peloponnese
0.07365780 Greek_Thessaly
0.07439566 Syrian

Distance to: Turkish_East
0.05844642 Syrian
0.09273746 Greek_Peloponnese
0.10139137 Greek_Thessaly

Distance to: Turkish_Deliorman
0.05556479 Greek_Thessaly
0.06413228 Greek_Peloponnese
0.11344002 Syrian

Distance to: Turkish_Central
0.06644936 Syrian
0.08987366 Greek_Peloponnese
0.09730370 Greek_Thessaly

Distance to: Turkish_Balikesir
0.09515105 Syrian
0.09994290 Greek_Peloponnese
0.10257938 Greek_Thessaly

Distance to: Turkish_Aydin
0.08821766 Syrian
0.10031950 Greek_Peloponnese
0.10543467 Greek_Thessaly

Distance to: Turkish_Adana
0.05945556 Syrian
0.08770955 Greek_Peloponnese
0.09562023 Greek_Thessaly

Hamilcar
09-04-2020, 07:47 PM
bump

Kyp
09-04-2020, 07:52 PM
- Greeks, Turks and Iranians are equally distant to Saudis/bedouins
- Greeks are closer to Levantine Arabs than Persians are

So much for genetic "clusters"

-Azerbaijani are closer to Turks, Kurds and Iranians than to Armenians

Hamilcar
09-04-2020, 07:56 PM
- Greeks, Turks and Iranians are equally distant to Saudis/bedouins
- Greeks are closer to Levantine Arabs than Persians are

So much for genetic "clusters"

greeks (especially aegean greeks) and south italians are outliers in the european cluster

FinalFlash
09-04-2020, 07:59 PM
- Greeks, Turks and Iranians are equally distant to Saudis/bedouins
- Greeks are closer to Levantine Arabs than Persians are

So much for genetic "clusters"

-Azerbaijani are closer to Turks, Kurds and Iranians than to Armenians
-Armenians are closer to Assyrians and Levantines than to Georgians

Lol. Needed a good laugh

Hamilcar
09-04-2020, 08:00 PM
I noticed that many west asians view georgians as europeans wtf

georgians aren't european genetically nor do they look european

Kyp
09-04-2020, 08:02 PM
I noticed that many west asians view georgians as europeans wtf

georgians aren't european genetically nor do they look european

agree. They have West Asian faces but are lighter skinned.

Kyp
09-04-2020, 08:04 PM
Lol. Needed a good laugh

Sorry i was wrong, edited it out

Leto
09-04-2020, 08:06 PM
I noticed that many west asians view georgians as europeans wtf

georgians aren't european genetically nor do they look european
You guys are just pissed that whites are more welcoming towards them than to Muslims but to me (especially to me being an Orthodox Christian) that's just logical. And yes, they do look lighter than most "MENAs" (including a great deal of Turkey).

Leto
09-04-2020, 08:10 PM
Hamilcar might be a sock puppet of Nassbean.

Hamilcar
09-04-2020, 08:11 PM
You guys are just pissed that whites are more welcoming towards them than to Muslims but to me (especially to me being an Orthodox Christian) that's just logical. And yes, they do look lighter than most "MENAs" (including a great deal of Turkey).

no offense but you clearly don't really know how georgians look like and I'm not muslim. I'm just stating facts I don't see what's european about them ?

Also Most middle easterners and north africans are proud people they absolutely do not seek to be "accepted" by europeans lol they at least have some kind of dignity unlike many anthrotards

Lucas
09-04-2020, 08:13 PM
no offense but you clearly don't really know how georgians look like and I'm not muslim. I'm just stating facts I don't see what's european about them ?

Also Most middle easterners and north africans are proud people they absolutely do not seek to be "accepted" by europeans lol they at least have some kind of dignity unlike many anthrotards

But you are Eskimo.

Peterski
09-04-2020, 08:14 PM
But you are Eskimo.

And you were Antarctican until few days ago.

Leto
09-04-2020, 08:14 PM
As someone who was born in Russia, I sure know what Georgians look like. I may be wrong about, say, the Druze, Berbers, Greeks or Italians but when it comes to the people from the former Soviet Union I am not ignorant.

Hamilcar
09-04-2020, 08:16 PM
As someone who was born in Russia, I sure know what Georgians look like. I may be wrong about, say, the Druze, Berbers, Greeks or Italians but when it comes to the people from the former Soviet Union I am not ignorant.

if georgians are "white" then a good part of west asians are white too

just take their g25 results and compare them to MENA people you'll see by yourself

Lucas
09-04-2020, 08:17 PM
And you were Antarctican until few days ago.

No I was Neuschwabenland citizen but it isn't such flag available:)

Leto
09-04-2020, 08:19 PM
if georgians are "white" then a good part of west asians are white too

just take their g25 results and compare them to MENA people you'll see by yourself
I didn't use white. I said they are more compatible because they aren't Muslims and also not brown (most of the time). It's a pointless argument. Obviously they are more passable and culturally more similar than your average Arab or even Iranian.

Hamilcar
09-04-2020, 08:22 PM
I didn't use white. I said they are more compatible because they aren't Muslims and also not brown (most of the time). It's a pointless argument. Obviously they are more passable and culturally more similar than your average Arab or even Iranian.

I said they are not european genetically and don't look european I don't care about subjective criterias like their culture or their "browness"

dududud
09-04-2020, 09:26 PM
no offense but you clearly don't really know how georgians look like and I'm not muslim. I'm just stating facts I don't see what's european about them ?

Also Most middle easterners and north africans are proud people they absolutely do not seek to be "accepted" by europeans lol they at least have some kind of dignity unlike many anthrotards

Indeed, for having seen a lot of North Africans where i live: most of them do not look like Europeans and do not feel European (which would be absurd, because they are not, genetically speaking).

What is absurd is the propensity of Europeans to consider certain populations as "white", this is the fruit of an Anglo-Saxon taxonomy from which certain parts of European nationalists have been influenced.

Teutonski
09-04-2020, 09:27 PM
You are still not white/european.

Dr_Maul
09-04-2020, 09:34 PM
Most of it can be attributed to shared components

Hamilcar
09-04-2020, 09:50 PM
You are still not white/european.

??? I think you're lost

vellas
09-04-2020, 10:00 PM
You are still not white/european.

The Japanese/Koreans are honorary Whites/Europeans due to their contributions. Do you agree.

Teutonski
09-04-2020, 10:04 PM
The Japanese/Koreans are honorary Whites/Europeans due to their contributions. Do you agree.

No.

And they would never join a Eurocentric forum to get recognition like nassbean and other nafris.

gixajo
09-04-2020, 10:08 PM
Here some interesting facts about genetic distances in MENA :















Egyptians are a little bit more closer to iberians than moroccans are (and as close to iberians than north moroccans) :



Distance to: Moroccan:MCA14
0.15827638 Spanish_Canarias:CAN924
0.16423668 Spanish_Canarias:CAN1
0.17032383 Spanish_Canarias:CAN13
0.17334996 Spanish_Canarias:CAN2
0.17504070 Spanish_Canarias:CAN10
0.17955780 Spanish_Canarias:CAN1220
0.18564422 Spanish_Canarias:HG01695
0.18581412 Spanish_Canarias:HG01694
0.18583656 Spanish_Canarias:CAN19
0.18706449 Spanish_Canarias:CAN11
0.18736786 Spanish_Canarias:CAN1920
0.18774583 Spanish_Canarias:CAN17
0.18903448 Spanish_Canarias:CAN956
0.19199957 Spanish_Canarias:CAN4
0.19276425 Spanish_Canarias:CAN12
0.19329437 Spanish_Canarias:CAN3
0.20052250 Spanish_Canarias:CAN18
0.20084532 Spanish_Canarias:CAN9
0.20174972 Portuguese:Portugal4
0.20218688 Portuguese:EBC_Portugal2
0.20296828 Spanish_Extremadura:HG01509
0.20416522 Portuguese:Portugal6
0.20491947 Spanish_Canarias:CAN884
0.20526532 Spanish_Galicia:HG01704
0.20701304 Spanish_Andalucia:AND77
0.20795542 Spanish_Andalucia:AND7
0.20819787 Portuguese:Portugal12
0.20839598 Spanish_Extremadura:HG01527
0.20862232 Portuguese:Portugal10
0.20874071 Spanish_Galicia:HG01685
0.20897358 Spanish_Andalucia:AND2
0.20958499 Spanish_Andalucia:AND80
0.20962277 Portuguese:EBC_Portugal7
0.20967020 Portuguese:EBC_Portugal11
0.21017887 Portuguese:EBC_Portugal13
0.21025360 Portuguese:EBC_Portugal10
0.21069411 Portuguese:Portugal13
0.21080606 Spanish_Andalucia:AND36
0.21131319 Portuguese:EBC_Portugal12
0.21136297 Portuguese:EBC_Portugal3
0.21139421 Spanish_Andalucia:AND75
0.21217699 Portuguese:Portugal15
0.21250612 Spanish_Andalucia:AND14
0.21259355 Portuguese:Portugal14
0.21292830 Spanish_Andalucia:HG01623
0.21349692 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon:HG01500
0.21352052 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon:HG01501
0.21377144 Spanish_Galicia:GAL8
0.21384868 Spanish_Andalucia:AND86
0.21428473 Spanish_Murcia:HG01697
0.21444791 Spanish_Galicia:GAL35
0.21454687 Spanish_Galicia:GAL21
0.21466002 Spanish_Galicia:GAL48
0.21485802 Spanish_Pirineu:CAR212
0.21487513 Portuguese:EBC_Portugal9
0.21499132 Portuguese:EBC_Portugal1
0.21510544 Spanish_Eivissa:CAR256
0.21586555 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona:FOR094
0.21596266 Spanish_Galicia:GAL71
0.21632845 Spanish_Andalucia:AND84
0.21664397 Spanish_Murcia:HG01618
0.21679393 Spanish_Mallorca:ALE339
0.21747439 Spanish_Eivissa:EIV011_2
0.21766038 Spanish_Murcia:HG01699
0.21777223 Portuguese:Portugal3
0.21786148 Portuguese:Portugal8
0.21829977 Portuguese:EBC_Portugal6
0.21875372 Spanish_Andalucia:HG01620
0.21876209 Spanish_Menorca:FER054
0.21895010 Spanish_Alacant:MAS064
0.21935233 Spanish_Eivissa:EIV004_2
0.21936395 Spanish_Galicia:GAL3
0.21962671 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha:HG01504
0.21976716 Portuguese:Portugal5
0.22007741 Spanish_Eivissa:EIV012_2
0.22020900 Portuguese:Portugal1
0.22033890 Spanish_Andalucia:AND10
0.22040851 Spanish_Galicia:GAL74
0.22049223 Spanish_Murcia:HG01617
0.22062317 Spanish_Galicia:GAL11
0.22070485 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha:HG02238
0.22079098 Portuguese:Portugal11
0.22080941 Spanish_Andalucia:AND4
0.22082719 Spanish_Alacant:NAC135
0.22106190 Portuguese:Portugal2
0.22134347 Spanish_Alacant:CAR257
0.22162019 Spanish_Menorca:GUS007
0.22173539 Spanish_Alacant:SLA017
0.22216895 Spanish_Andalucia:AND39
0.22216930 Spanish_Eivissa:GUS203
0.22218482 Spanish_Galicia:GAL25
0.22234877 Spanish_Andalucia:AND43
0.22235413 Spanish_Galicia:GAL15
0.22238803 Spanish_Galicia:GAL20
0.22250594 Spanish_Galicia:GAL16
0.22252939 Spanish_Galicia:GAL26
0.22257621 Portuguese:Portugal7
0.22291427 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona:GRA011
0.22295894 Spanish_Asturias:Asturias1
0.22318670 Spanish_Andalucia:HG01619
0.22323239 Spanish_Girona:ROB127
0.22358122 Spanish_Extremadura:HG01510
0.22378289 Spanish_Galicia:GAL44
0.22392887 Spanish_Mallorca:ROI096
0.22400931 Spanish_Castello:PIT001
0.22405728 Spanish_Castello:SAB019
0.22420840 Spanish_Baleares:HG01625
0.22467081 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona:BOS029
0.22467385 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon:HG01506
0.22480945 Spanish_Andalucia:AND18
0.22509232 Spanish_Andalucia:AND46
0.22524722 Spanish_Baleares:HG01615
0.22549332 Spanish_Eivissa:SER064
0.22565516 Spanish_Eivissa:GUS199
0.22578629 Spanish_Cataluna:HG01761
0.22580059 Spanish_Eivissa:EIV010_2
0.22581339 Spanish_Galicia:GAL24
0.22612365 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha:HG01503
0.22613184 Spanish_Penedes:BOS015
0.22618367 Spanish_Galicia:HG01686
0.22622180 Spanish_Cantabria:HG01679
0.22631916 Spanish_Navarra:Navarra1
0.22646011 Spanish_Mallorca:GRA135
0.22655017 Spanish_Eivissa:EIV009_2
0.22657347 Spanish_Andalucia:AND33
0.22662116 Spanish_Aragon:HG01675
0.22664497 Spanish_Catalunya_Central:CAR007
0.22676056 Spanish_Alacant:ALE009
0.22678823 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona:GUL190
0.22698444 Spanish_Eivissa:EIV014_2
0.22768334 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona:FOR067
0.22792398 Spanish_Cataluna:HG01537
0.22795619 Spanish_Mallorca:MEL022
0.22821821 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona:RIC106
0.22834293 Spanish_Navarra:Navarra2
0.22836973 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona:COM032
0.22846644 Spanish_Mallorca:SLM078
0.22853945 Spanish_Lleida:FER015
0.22854464 Spanish_Eivissa:EIV015_2
0.22859009 Spanish_Eivissa:EIV001_2
0.22890831 Spanish_Baleares:HG01613
0.22902293 Spanish_Girona:ROI027
0.22942256 Spanish_Aragon:HG01678
0.22981604 Spanish_Pirineu:FER101
0.22982390 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre:GUS008
0.22983124 Spanish_Lleida:RIC076
0.22985928 Spanish_Aragon:HG01673
0.22992711 Spanish_Penedes:GUS029
0.22998144 Spanish_Girona:ROB116
0.23034310 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona:ARM005
0.23039217 Spanish_Pirineu:SER011
0.23088504 Spanish_Penedes:STC091
0.23091136 Spanish_Lleida:FOR066
0.23102163 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona:ROS008
0.23126608 Spanish_Mallorca:SOL053
0.23137108 Spanish_Lleida:FER007
0.23139165 Spanish_Menorca:PON058
0.23146041 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona:SER027
0.23148912 Spanish_Eivissa:EIV013_2
0.23149484 Spanish_Mallorca:CAL026
0.23165822 Spanish_La_Rioja:La_Rioja1
0.23166687 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona:FER039
0.23166856 Spanish_Alacant:ALE005
0.23168164 Spanish_Penedes:VID003
0.23177550 Spanish_Castello:BOS027
0.23179331 Spanish_Catalunya_Central:SOL051
0.23220096 Spanish_Mallorca:MAY035
0.23222371 Spanish_Girona:REI087
0.23304321 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona:VID048
0.23313899 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha:HG01746
0.23319837 Spanish_Barcelones:GUS119
0.23336251 Spanish_Cataluna:HG01536
0.23360899 Spanish_Penedes:VID037
0.23365565 Spanish_Girona:FER052
0.23390633 Spanish_Girona:MOR061
0.23438963 Spanish_Penedes:FER023
0.23465703 Spanish_Cantabria:HG01513
0.23466772 Spanish_Girona:BOS011
0.23492111 Spanish_Castello:ALB231
0.23492281 Spanish_Barcelones:SER015
0.23500018 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona:ROI042
0.23504566 Spanish_Penedes:SAB014
0.23516715 Spanish_Lleida:MST075
0.23523345 Spanish_Catalunya_Central:VID057
0.23553541 Spanish_Lleida:ROS005
0.23554384 Spanish_Barcelones:GUS040
0.23589133 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre:GRA020
0.23597234 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona:MAS016
0.23605650 Spanish_Castello:CAR023
0.23609714 Spanish_Aragon:HG01676
0.23622569 Spanish_Catalunya_Central:MAS003
0.23628589 Spanish_Catalunya_Central:VID044
0.23632574 Spanish_Castello:CAR200
0.23644767 Spanish_Barcelones:COD147
0.23651177 Spanish_Penedes:ROB016
0.23735628 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona:MOR068
0.23748946 Spanish_Catalunya_Central:CAL107
0.23780609 Spanish_Girona:SER018
0.23840076 Spanish_Penedes:ROS025
0.23858276 Spanish_Catalunya_Central:SOL083

Distance to: Egyptian:10AJ137
0.13241767 Spanish_Canarias:CAN924
0.13517376 Spanish_Canarias:CAN1
0.14053927 Spanish_Canarias:CAN2
0.14320293 Spanish_Canarias:CAN13
0.14423568 Spanish_Canarias:CAN1220
0.14440960 Spanish_Canarias:CAN10
0.15216182 Spanish_Canarias:CAN17
0.15322090 Spanish_Canarias:CAN11
0.15388000 Spanish_Canarias:HG01694
0.15576605 Spanish_Canarias:CAN19
0.15676649 Spanish_Canarias:CAN956
0.15750550 Spanish_Canarias:HG01695
0.15889442 Spanish_Canarias:CAN1920
0.16085073 Spanish_Canarias:CAN12
0.16260119 Spanish_Canarias:CAN3
0.16385779 Spanish_Canarias:CAN4
0.16448990 Portuguese:EBC_Portugal2
0.16486667 Spanish_Canarias:CAN9
0.16658132 Spanish_Canarias:CAN18
0.16739023 Spanish_Extremadura:HG01509
0.16826306 Portuguese:Portugal6
0.16950213 Spanish_Canarias:CAN884
0.16968026 Spanish_Galicia:HG01704
0.17160472 Portuguese:Portugal4
0.17161737 Portuguese:EBC_Portugal7
0.17172658 Portuguese:Portugal12
0.17205885 Spanish_Andalucia:AND7
0.17261611 Spanish_Galicia:HG01685
0.17432207 Spanish_Extremadura:HG01527
0.17475030 Portuguese:EBC_Portugal11
0.17499437 Portuguese:Portugal15
0.17501133 Portuguese:Portugal13
0.17530312 Portuguese:EBC_Portugal3
0.17533963 Portuguese:Portugal10
0.17632077 Spanish_Eivissa:CAR256
0.17633604 Spanish_Andalucia:AND77
0.17648583 Portuguese:EBC_Portugal13
0.17653132 Spanish_Andalucia:AND86
0.17658565 Spanish_Andalucia:AND36
0.17664018 Spanish_Andalucia:HG01623
0.17675675 Portuguese:EBC_Portugal12
0.17696336 Spanish_Andalucia:AND2
0.17708373 Spanish_Murcia:HG01697
0.17716145 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona:FOR094
0.17752947 Portuguese:EBC_Portugal10
0.17779406 Spanish_Andalucia:AND80
0.17819486 Spanish_Andalucia:AND14
0.17906315 Spanish_Andalucia:AND75
0.17929140 Portuguese:Portugal14
0.17955583 Portuguese:Portugal5
0.17958256 Spanish_Eivissa:EIV004_2
0.17981179 Spanish_Galicia:GAL35
0.17985079 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon:HG01500
0.17991501 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon:HG01501
0.18022274 Portuguese:EBC_Portugal1
0.18037845 Spanish_Mallorca:ALE339
0.18049268 Spanish_Galicia:GAL48
0.18089743 Spanish_Menorca:FER054
0.18110617 Spanish_Galicia:GAL8
0.18110941 Portuguese:EBC_Portugal9
0.18120240 Spanish_Galicia:GAL71
0.18150959 Spanish_Galicia:GAL21
0.18173057 Spanish_Andalucia:AND84
0.18185731 Spanish_Murcia:HG01699
0.18188092 Spanish_Andalucia:HG01620
0.18220731 Spanish_Alacant:MAS064
0.18243799 Spanish_Galicia:GAL20
0.18246181 Spanish_Andalucia:AND39
0.18264703 Spanish_Eivissa:EIV012_2
0.18272633 Portuguese:Portugal8
0.18303591 Spanish_Menorca:GUS007
0.18308228 Spanish_Murcia:HG01618
0.18322305 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha:HG01504
0.18351953 Spanish_Eivissa:GUS203
0.18382478 Spanish_Murcia:HG01617
0.18389315 Spanish_Eivissa:EIV011_2
0.18395275 Spanish_Pirineu:CAR212
0.18417664 Spanish_Girona:ROB127
0.18422446 Spanish_Andalucia:AND43
0.18424939 Spanish_Mallorca:ROI096
0.18445035 Spanish_Galicia:GAL3
0.18448779 Spanish_Alacant:SLA017
0.18470059 Spanish_Andalucia:HG01619
0.18472446 Spanish_Alacant:CAR257
0.18484964 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha:HG02238
0.18497733 Portuguese:EBC_Portugal6
0.18523888 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona:GRA011
0.18525378 Spanish_Eivissa:EIV001_2
0.18533320 Portuguese:Portugal1
0.18533938 Spanish_Catalunya_Central:CAR007
0.18544874 Spanish_Mallorca:GRA135
0.18551848 Spanish_Galicia:GAL16
0.18562583 Spanish_Baleares:HG01615
0.18596766 Spanish_Eivissa:SER064
0.18616800 Portuguese:Portugal3
0.18626081 Spanish_Baleares:HG01625
0.18641269 Spanish_Andalucia:AND10
0.18657097 Spanish_Galicia:GAL11
0.18696127 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona:BOS029
0.18699296 Portuguese:Portugal2
0.18714793 Spanish_Eivissa:GUS199
0.18722527 Portuguese:Portugal11
0.18742845 Spanish_Castello:PIT001
0.18753992 Spanish_Alacant:NAC135
0.18759622 Spanish_Penedes:BOS015
0.18769026 Spanish_Galicia:GAL15
0.18771999 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha:HG01503
0.18778085 Spanish_Galicia:GAL74
0.18780671 Spanish_Extremadura:HG01510
0.18798469 Portuguese:Portugal7
0.18846102 Spanish_Andalucia:AND4
0.18863716 Spanish_Mallorca:MEL022
0.18869572 Spanish_Andalucia:AND18
0.18875852 Spanish_Castello:SAB019
0.18886122 Spanish_Eivissa:EIV010_2
0.18891688 Spanish_Galicia:GAL25
0.18893593 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona:FOR067
0.18894365 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon:HG01506
0.18911190 Spanish_Galicia:GAL26
0.18923637 Spanish_Andalucia:AND33
0.18925909 Spanish_Galicia:GAL44
0.18972593 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre:GUS008
0.18979234 Spanish_Girona:ROI027
0.18986612 Spanish_Alacant:ALE009
0.19012651 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona:RIC106
0.19017782 Spanish_Cataluna:HG01537
0.19023758 Spanish_Lleida:FER015
0.19027936 Spanish_Eivissa:EIV009_2
0.19030532 Spanish_Baleares:HG01613
0.19033825 Spanish_Eivissa:EIV014_2
0.19049741 Spanish_Mallorca:SOL053
0.19066885 Spanish_Penedes:GUS029
0.19068963 Spanish_Andalucia:AND46
0.19075669 Spanish_Eivissa:EIV015_2
0.19100742 Spanish_Navarra:Navarra1
0.19103097 Spanish_Galicia:HG01686
0.19105409 Spanish_Mallorca:SLM078
0.19147480 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona:GUL190
0.19160299 Spanish_Asturias:Asturias1
0.19198632 Spanish_Cantabria:HG01679
0.19223451 Spanish_Menorca:PON058
0.19242030 Spanish_Mallorca:CAL026
0.19260189 Spanish_Pirineu:SER011
0.19269196 Spanish_Navarra:Navarra2
0.19294599 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona:COM032
0.19308809 Spanish_Alacant:ALE005
0.19309484 Spanish_Galicia:GAL24
0.19321780 Spanish_Aragon:HG01678
0.19338965 Spanish_Penedes:STC091
0.19344605 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona:ARM005
0.19354807 Spanish_Eivissa:EIV013_2
0.19379655 Spanish_Lleida:RIC076
0.19401596 Spanish_Girona:MOR061
0.19422347 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona:MAS016
0.19422638 Spanish_Aragon:HG01673
0.19431989 Spanish_Girona:ROB116
0.19445764 Spanish_Aragon:HG01675
0.19450114 Spanish_Cataluna:HG01761
0.19454360 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona:FER039
0.19476003 Spanish_Castello:BOS027
0.19499025 Spanish_Girona:REI087
0.19516022 Spanish_Mallorca:MAY035
0.19531165 Spanish_Lleida:FER007
0.19551645 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona:SER027
0.19552719 Spanish_Penedes:VID003
0.19568503 Spanish_Pirineu:FER101
0.19589059 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona:ROS008
0.19589762 Spanish_Catalunya_Central:SOL051
0.19593124 Spanish_Lleida:FOR066
0.19597669 Spanish_Castello:CAR023
0.19599466 Spanish_Barcelones:SER015
0.19608574 Spanish_Penedes:ROB016
0.19610899 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona:VID048
0.19640158 Spanish_Barcelones:GUS040
0.19664010 Spanish_La_Rioja:La_Rioja1
0.19684515 Spanish_Barcelones:GUS119
0.19686861 Spanish_Girona:BOS011
0.19744793 Spanish_Cataluna:HG01536
0.19795201 Spanish_Girona:SER018
0.19804216 Spanish_Penedes:SAB014
0.19810306 Spanish_Castello:ALB231
0.19812191 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre:GRA020
0.19833717 Spanish_Penedes:ALE088
0.19833824 Spanish_Penedes:VID037
0.19834787 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha:HG01746
0.19841996 Spanish_Lleida:ROS005
0.19868982 Spanish_Lleida:MST075
0.19877064 Spanish_Cantabria:HG01513
0.19878295 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona:ROI042
0.19886356 Spanish_Girona:FER052
0.19891107 Spanish_Lleida:MIQ133
0.19910882 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona:MOR068
0.19913684 Spanish_Catalunya_Central:VID044
0.19928236 Spanish_Penedes:FER023
0.19936772 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona:GUS202
0.19981543 Spanish_Catalunya_Central:SOL083
0.19981807 Spanish_Catalunya_Central:MAS003
0.19997166 Spanish_Penedes:ROS025
0.20022211 Spanish_Catalunya_Central:CAL107
0.20093749 Spanish_Aragon:HG01676



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Interesting facts about at least these 2 specific Moroccan and Egyptian individuals and with Canarians.:D

Using averages:


Distance to: Moroccan
0.10583609 Egyptian
0.19727162 Spanish_Canarias
0.22597631 Spanish_Extremadura
0.22973786 Spanish_Andalucia
0.23048011 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.23105778 Spanish_Murcia
0.23113695 Spanish_Galicia
0.23600405 Spanish_Asturias
0.23697165 Spanish_Alacant
0.23810921 Spanish_Eivissa
0.23871287 Spanish_Menorca
0.23872980 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.24062482 Spanish_Baleares
0.24138685 Spanish_Valencia
0.24141611 Spanish_Cataluna
0.24265349 Spanish_Mallorca
0.24386059 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.24398617 Spanish_Aragon
0.24568187 Spanish_Navarra
0.24601168 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.24605256 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.24630455 Spanish_Pirineu
0.24632160 Spanish_Castello
0.24684984 Spanish_Girona
0.24688352 Spanish_Cantabria


Distance to: Egyptian
0.10583609 Moroccan
0.15931625 Spanish_Canarias
0.18386848 Spanish_Extremadura
0.18730431 Spanish_Andalucia
0.18772842 Spanish_Murcia
0.18998840 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.19009652 Spanish_Galicia
0.19211732 Spanish_Menorca
0.19215695 Spanish_Eivissa
0.19347893 Spanish_Alacant
0.19485772 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.19518675 Spanish_Baleares
0.19673150 Spanish_Mallorca
0.19856655 Spanish_Asturias
0.19861712 Spanish_Valencia
0.19981509 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.20054964 Spanish_Cataluna
0.20108356 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.20179299 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.20222512 Spanish_Aragon
0.20257844 Spanish_Girona
0.20316052 Spanish_Castello
0.20327831 Spanish_Penedes
0.20358042 Spanish_Lleida
0.20391460 Spanish_Pirineu

vellas
09-04-2020, 10:09 PM
No.

And they would never join a Eurocentric forum to get recognition like nassbean and other nafris.

Your country though and France have massively accepted North Africans into their countries.

What would be the reason? Labor shortages?

France got like nearly 6 million North Africans.

vellas
09-04-2020, 10:24 PM
In their great majority turks are closer to syrians than to greeks (exceptions are turks from istanbul, deliorman and rumeli) :


Distance to: Turkish_Trabzon
0.06726746 Syrian
0.09015519 Greek_Peloponnese
0.10233560 Greek_Thessaly

Distance to: Turkish_Southwest
0.09046264 Syrian
0.10301129 Greek_Peloponnese
0.10907381 Greek_Thessaly

Distance to: Turkish_South
0.09113506 Syrian
0.11188200 Greek_Peloponnese
0.11748364 Greek_Thessaly

Distance to: Turkish_Rumeli
0.06303001 Greek_Thessaly
0.06366173 Greek_Peloponnese
0.10384501 Syrian

Distance to: Turkish_Northwest
0.09629236 Syrian
0.10183895 Greek_Peloponnese
0.10586410 Greek_Thessaly

Distance to: Turkish_North
0.08561746 Syrian
0.09952071 Greek_Peloponnese
0.10503548 Greek_Thessaly

Distance to: Turkish_Kayseri
0.05784511 Syrian
0.08428646 Greek_Peloponnese
0.09297761 Greek_Thessaly

Distance to: Turkish_Istanbul
0.06873728 Greek_Peloponnese
0.07365780 Greek_Thessaly
0.07439566 Syrian

Distance to: Turkish_East
0.05844642 Syrian
0.09273746 Greek_Peloponnese
0.10139137 Greek_Thessaly

Distance to: Turkish_Deliorman
0.05556479 Greek_Thessaly
0.06413228 Greek_Peloponnese
0.11344002 Syrian

Distance to: Turkish_Central
0.06644936 Syrian
0.08987366 Greek_Peloponnese
0.09730370 Greek_Thessaly

Distance to: Turkish_Balikesir
0.09515105 Syrian
0.09994290 Greek_Peloponnese
0.10257938 Greek_Thessaly

Distance to: Turkish_Aydin
0.08821766 Syrian
0.10031950 Greek_Peloponnese
0.10543467 Greek_Thessaly

Distance to: Turkish_Adana
0.05945556 Syrian
0.08770955 Greek_Peloponnese
0.09562023 Greek_Thessaly

I don't think Turks will like hearing this. A great deal see themselves as Europeans lost in West Asia.

Dr_Maul
09-04-2020, 10:30 PM
Also, North Africa is special because their North African component (which is their main component) As well as minor SSA makes them very different to other MENAs
The same reason is applied to Eritreans except with the East African component which sets them so far apart from Yemen
Outside of that everyone else is simply a mix of Caucasus, Anatolian, SW Asian and Gedrosian

Hamilcar
09-04-2020, 10:39 PM
Also, North Africa is special because their North African component (which is their main component) As well as minor SSA makes them very different to other MENAs
The same reason is applied to Eritreans except with the East African component which sets them so far apart from Yemen
Outside of that everyone else is simply a mix of Caucasus, Anatolian, SW Asian and Gedrosian

their main component isn't IBM but anatolian (iberia_N)

what makes north africans quite distinct is their iberomaurusian component + SSA (the iberomaurusian component itself is composed of ANA which is quite archaic and non-eurasian)

gixajo
09-04-2020, 10:39 PM
Also, North Africa is special because their North African component (which is their main component) As well as minor SSA makes them very different to other MENAs
The same reason is applied to Eritreans except with the East African component which sets them so far apart from Yemen
Outside of that everyone else is simply a mix of Caucasus, Anatolian, SW Asian and Gedrosian

Moroccans (and other North Africans) have a very specific and own component as a base that make them in some sense "uniques", and different genetic inputs from other areas in less proportions.

gixajo
09-04-2020, 10:42 PM
their main component isn't IBM but anatolian (iberia_N)

what makes north africans quite distinct is their iberomaurusian component + SSA (the iberomaurusian component itself is composed of ANA which is quite archaic and non-eurasian)

So make an ancient references-based model for North Africans, nobody has still done one of those models for NA people.

Hamilcar
09-04-2020, 10:44 PM
So make an ancient references-based model for North Africans, nobody has still done one of those models for NA people.

I actually did. Here a result :

edit

gixajo
09-04-2020, 10:47 PM
I actually did. Here a result :

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Post sources, please.

Hamilcar
09-04-2020, 10:52 PM
Post sources, please.


Iberia_N,0.1239407,0.1755737,0.0341921,-0.0626261,0.0768007,-0.0339317,-0.004439,-0.0011793,0.0618117,0.0996021,0.0021292,0.015586,-0.0343077,-0.0108723,-0.0189858,-0.0058929,0.0074029,0.001844,0.0048463,-0.0070036,0.002468,0.0035996,-0.008148,-0.0235909,9.3e-05
MAR_EN,-0.1735805,0.0919055,-0.0258325,-0.083657,0.0283125,-0.0596825,-0.079316,0.021461,0.1500185,0.0043735,0.0222475,-0.0264515,0.075148,-0.0461725,0.069353,-0.03381,0.0171455,-0.05549,-0.1487635,0.0340785,-0.038245,-0.118212,0.0826995,-0.009941,0.021615
Yamnaya_RUS_Samara,0.1255849,0.089028,0.0426986,0. 1153479,-0.0287232,0.0450564,0.0036033,-0.0025642,-0.0559032,-0.0728943,0.0018222,3.32e-05,-0.0026924,-0.0233041,0.0366141,0.0157633,-0.0012316,-0.0017879,-0.0038408,0.0137704,-0.0031749,0.0007557,0.0110649,0.0186102,-0.004537
SSA,-0.915,0.1375,0.08,0.01,-0.01,0.0175,0.2525,-0.1925,-0.0515,0.0515,0.0155,-0.205,-0.065,0.001,0.005,-0.01,-0.002,-0.0425,0.01,-0.0075,-0.002,-0.0065,0,0.0085,-0.0115
SSA,-1.0455,0.155,0.0945,0.011,-0.0235,0.0465,-0.05,0.0775,-0.1425,0.0475,0.005,0.0075,0.0155,0.0075,0.005,-0.004,0.0095,0.0125,0.045,-0.0205,0.0065,0.025,-0.0175,0.005,-0.0075
WHG,0.1246365,0.116278,0.184789,0.189279,0.1546445 ,0.0464355,0.0131605,0.0372675,0.0890705,0.017768,-0.0153455,-0.015811,0.0159065,-0.0030275,0.053338,0.0582065,0.00502,0.016343,-0.0093015,0.055589,0.0944585,0.0111905,-0.049607,-0.160866,0.0170045
Levant_PPNC,0.067156,0.168578,-0.023004,-0.150842,0.028621,-0.071954,-0.013866,-0.017999,0.077719,0.037905,0.006496,-0.013188,0.032705,-0.000275,-0.014929,0.008486,-0.000913,-0.007728,-0.013575,0.012381,-0.009982,0.01014,0.002958,0.003012,-0.001916
IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N,0.0430252,0.0664158,-0.1550722,0.0047158,-0.122669,0.0235384,0.017109,-0.0011998,-0.082546,-0.0544158,-0.0028258,-0.0016186,0.0044896,-0.0062756,0.0316498,0.0561384,-0.0054242,0.0068664,0.0136508,-0.0334162,0.00856,-0.028836,-0.0110678,-0.039331,0.0222254
GEO_CHG,0.091058,0.102568,-0.083344,-0.00323,-0.08617,0.020638,0.024911,-0.001846,-0.128236,-0.074717,-0.006333,0.023979,-0.054856,0.004404,0.026601,-0.03275,0.02386,-0.013429,-0.022249,0.034767,0.033815,-0.007048,0.006532,-0.025787,-0.002036



replace yamnaya by corded ware DEU and you'll get more accurate result

gixajo
09-04-2020, 10:52 PM
You could your ancient references model basing it in close distances wiyj modern population of NA:


Distance to: Berber_Tunisia_Sen
0.04365944 Canary_Islands_Guanche
0.06471772 Iberia_Central_CA_Afr
0.09491178 ITA_Sardinia_C_o
0.10576962 MAR_LN
0.10977115 Levant_Beirut_IAIII_Egyptian
0.11603930 EGY_Late_Period
0.11934713 EGY_Hellenistic
0.12005108 England_Roman_Near_Eastern_o
0.14084470 Levant_Natufian
0.14324386 ITA_Etruscan_o
0.14368171 ITA_Sardinia_Punic
0.14427299 Levant_LBN_MA_o1
0.14843695 Iberia_Southeast_c.5-8CE
0.14974247 Iberia_Southeast_c.3-4CE
0.14997637 Iberia_Ibiza_Punic
0.15022022 Levant_Beirut_Hellenistic
0.15027785 Levant_Megiddo_IBA
0.15091876 Levant_JOR_EBA
0.15097919 Iberia_Southeast_c.10-16CE
0.15184799 Levant_PPNB
0.15250344 Levant_PPNC
0.15309565 Levant_Ashkelon_IA2
0.15451933 Levant_Sidon_MBA
0.15640338 Levant_LBN_MA
0.15811922 Levant_Beirut_IAIII

Distance to: Berber_Tunisia_Chen
0.02343112 Canary_Islands_Guanche
0.05568053 Iberia_Central_CA_Afr
0.08193070 ITA_Sardinia_C_o
0.09123985 MAR_LN
0.13013440 Levant_Beirut_IAIII_Egyptian
0.13282065 EGY_Late_Period
0.13804461 ITA_Etruscan_o
0.13859778 EGY_Hellenistic
0.13912020 England_Roman_Near_Eastern_o
0.13970870 ITA_Sardinia_Punic
0.14452228 Levant_LBN_MA_o1
0.14556715 Iberia_Southeast_c.5-8CE
0.14874817 Iberia_Southeast_c.3-4CE
0.14974246 Iberia_Southeast_c.10-16CE
0.15071524 Iberia_Ibiza_Punic
0.15282617 Levant_Natufian
0.15728405 Levant_PPNC
0.15851056 Levant_PPNB
0.16352007 ITA_Sardinia_Late_Antiquity
0.16699571 Levant_Megiddo_IBA
0.16816572 Levant_Beirut_Hellenistic
0.16857444 Levant_Ashkelon_IA2
0.16949042 Levant_JOR_EBA
0.17123988 Levant_Sidon_MBA
0.17139555 Levant_LBN_MA

Distance to: Berber_MAR_TIZ
0.05228388 ITA_Sardinia_C_o
0.06844427 Canary_Islands_Guanche
0.07770155 Iberia_Central_CA_Afr
0.14905237 MAR_LN
0.19306631 Levant_Beirut_IAIII_Egyptian
0.19323267 Levant_Natufian
0.19704558 EGY_Late_Period
0.19863528 EGY_Hellenistic
0.20212949 MAR_EN
0.20324389 England_Roman_Near_Eastern_o
0.20791619 ITA_Etruscan_o
0.20991424 KEN_Early_Pastoral_N
0.21086511 ITA_Sardinia_Punic
0.21089356 MAR_Taforalt
0.21166428 Levant_LBN_MA_o1
0.21366690 Iberia_Southeast_c.5-8CE
0.21673107 Iberia_Southeast_c.3-4CE
0.21763032 Iberia_Southeast_c.10-16CE
0.21906548 Iberia_Ibiza_Punic
0.21907351 Levant_PPNC
0.22210886 Levant_PPNB
0.22970551 KEN_Pastoral_N_o
0.23221691 Levant_Beirut_Hellenistic
0.23316045 Levant_Megiddo_IBA
0.23317294 Levant_JOR_EBA

Distance to: Berber_MAR_ERR
0.05533428 Canary_Islands_Guanche
0.06079131 ITA_Sardinia_C_o
0.06820799 Iberia_Central_CA_Afr
0.14058299 MAR_LN
0.17542530 Levant_Beirut_IAIII_Egyptian
0.18070619 EGY_Late_Period
0.18139090 EGY_Hellenistic
0.18521540 Levant_Natufian
0.18599474 England_Roman_Near_Eastern_o
0.19140986 ITA_Etruscan_o
0.19316514 Levant_LBN_MA_o1
0.19475320 ITA_Sardinia_Punic
0.19621512 Iberia_Southeast_c.5-8CE
0.19936772 Iberia_Southeast_c.3-4CE
0.19984909 Iberia_Southeast_c.10-16CE
0.20129553 Iberia_Ibiza_Punic
0.20775706 Levant_PPNC
0.20999016 Levant_PPNB
0.21075057 KEN_Early_Pastoral_N
0.21254667 Levant_Beirut_Hellenistic
0.21604681 Levant_Megiddo_IBA
0.21682458 Levant_JOR_EBA
0.21750167 Levant_Ashkelon_IA2
0.21754449 ITA_Sardinia_Late_Antiquity
0.21977856 Levant_LBN_MA

Distance to: Berber_Algeria
0.15870383 TZA_Luxmanda_3100BP
0.16120002 TZA_PN_o
0.16479961 KEN_Pastoral_N_o
0.16492078 TZA_PN
0.16668839 KEN_HyraxHill_2300BP
0.16737446 KEN_Pastoral_N_Elmenteitan
0.16885232 KEN_Pastoral_N
0.17312206 KEN_Early_Pastoral_N
0.17360723 KEN_LuKENHill_3500BP
0.17628619 KEN_MoloCave_1500BP
0.20046255 KEN_Pastoral_IA
0.23115682 KEN_400BP
0.24460026 ITA_Sardinia_C_o
0.26467072 Iberia_Central_CA_Afr
0.26584827 Canary_Islands_Guanche
0.26967780 KEN_IA_Deloraine
0.28075206 MAR_Taforalt
0.28462333 MAR_EN
0.29550245 KEN_Kakapel_900BP
0.29935506 ETH_4500BP
0.31473088 KEN_LSA
0.31741238 KEN_Kakapel_300BP
0.32682592 KEN_Nyarindi_3500BP
0.33334734 BWA_Xaro_1400BP
0.33830106 MAR_LN

Distance to: Berber_Zenatan
0.03042176 Canary_Islands_Guanche
0.06345312 Iberia_Central_CA_Afr
0.08761292 MAR_LN
0.09610075 ITA_Sardinia_C_o
0.12139263 Levant_Beirut_IAIII_Egyptian
0.12482294 EGY_Late_Period
0.12829280 ITA_Etruscan_o
0.12902872 ITA_Sardinia_Punic
0.12967076 England_Roman_Near_Eastern_o
0.13136964 EGY_Hellenistic
0.13276369 Levant_LBN_MA_o1
0.13299230 Iberia_Southeast_c.5-8CE
0.13592003 Iberia_Southeast_c.3-4CE
0.13615863 Iberia_Southeast_c.10-16CE
0.13835182 Iberia_Ibiza_Punic
0.14795629 Levant_Natufian
0.15092955 ITA_Sardinia_Late_Antiquity
0.15190942 Levant_PPNB
0.15248452 Levant_PPNC
0.15776420 Levant_Megiddo_IBA
0.15902758 Levant_Beirut_Hellenistic
0.15934732 Levant_Ashkelon_IA2
0.16008066 Levant_JOR_EBA
0.16198507 Levant_Sidon_MBA
0.16203042 Levant_Beirut_IAIII

Distance to: Berber_ALG_Chaoui
0.02849227 Canary_Islands_Guanche
0.05995485 Iberia_Central_CA_Afr
0.08750075 MAR_LN
0.09247895 ITA_Sardinia_C_o
0.12455812 Levant_Beirut_IAIII_Egyptian
0.12864909 EGY_Late_Period
0.13077347 ITA_Etruscan_o
0.13204158 ITA_Sardinia_Punic
0.13256982 England_Roman_Near_Eastern_o
0.13484290 EGY_Hellenistic
0.13536600 Levant_LBN_MA_o1
0.13732521 Iberia_Southeast_c.5-8CE
0.13961695 Iberia_Southeast_c.3-4CE
0.14132228 Iberia_Southeast_c.10-16CE
0.14152597 Iberia_Ibiza_Punic
0.15434223 Levant_Natufian
0.15474827 Levant_PPNC
0.15479760 Levant_PPNB
0.15611885 ITA_Sardinia_Late_Antiquity
0.16028559 Levant_Beirut_Hellenistic
0.16061834 Levant_Megiddo_IBA
0.16288337 Levant_Ashkelon_IA2
0.16376371 Levant_LBN_MA
0.16397064 Levant_JOR_EBA
0.16478192 Levant_Beirut_IAIII

Distance to: Algerian
0.04423136 Canary_Islands_Guanche
0.06469869 Iberia_Central_CA_Afr
0.08600771 ITA_Sardinia_C_o
0.12332815 MAR_LN
0.14231230 Levant_Beirut_IAIII_Egyptian
0.14936423 EGY_Late_Period
0.15130449 EGY_Hellenistic
0.15240899 England_Roman_Near_Eastern_o
0.16070396 Levant_LBN_MA_o1
0.16142629 ITA_Etruscan_o
0.16412597 ITA_Sardinia_Punic
0.16485840 Iberia_Southeast_c.5-8CE
0.16716347 Iberia_Southeast_c.3-4CE
0.16799788 Iberia_Southeast_c.10-16CE
0.16889549 Iberia_Ibiza_Punic
0.17085125 Levant_Natufian
0.17600870 Levant_Beirut_Hellenistic
0.18285623 Levant_Megiddo_IBA
0.18322601 ITA_Sardinia_Late_Antiquity
0.18341966 Levant_Ashkelon_IA2
0.18354503 Levant_PPNC
0.18362488 Levant_PPNB
0.18399562 Levant_LBN_MA
0.18446180 Levant_JOR_EBA
0.18494260 Levant_Sidon_MBA

Distance to: Moroccan_South
0.12844459 ITA_Sardinia_C_o
0.14815284 Canary_Islands_Guanche
0.15061521 Iberia_Central_CA_Afr
0.16572633 KEN_Early_Pastoral_N
0.17703673 KEN_Pastoral_N_o
0.18367781 TZA_PN_o
0.19172676 KEN_HyraxHill_2300BP
0.19452268 TZA_PN
0.19674086 KEN_Pastoral_N_Elmenteitan
0.19988555 TZA_Luxmanda_3100BP
0.20465429 KEN_Pastoral_N
0.20727203 KEN_LuKENHill_3500BP
0.21741161 MAR_EN
0.21998846 MAR_Taforalt
0.22590035 MAR_LN
0.22727164 KEN_MoloCave_1500BP
0.25509691 Levant_Beirut_IAIII_Egyptian
0.26015306 EGY_Hellenistic
0.26148942 Levant_Natufian
0.26235430 EGY_Late_Period
0.26510301 England_Roman_Near_Eastern_o
0.27139755 Levant_LBN_MA_o1
0.27375702 ITA_Etruscan_o
0.27558780 Iberia_Southeast_c.5-8CE
0.27829801 ITA_Sardinia_Punic

Distance to: Moroccan_North
0.02140158 Canary_Islands_Guanche
0.05727754 Iberia_Central_CA_Afr
0.09094815 MAR_LN
0.09185948 ITA_Sardinia_C_o
0.12654417 Levant_Beirut_IAIII_Egyptian
0.13025212 ITA_Etruscan_o
0.13148008 EGY_Late_Period
0.13235656 ITA_Sardinia_Punic
0.13373329 Levant_LBN_MA_o1
0.13529477 Iberia_Southeast_c.5-8CE
0.13577150 England_Roman_Near_Eastern_o
0.13696812 EGY_Hellenistic
0.13821447 Iberia_Southeast_c.3-4CE
0.13931236 Iberia_Southeast_c.10-16CE
0.14019187 Iberia_Ibiza_Punic
0.15568368 ITA_Sardinia_Late_Antiquity
0.15618275 Levant_Natufian
0.15861345 Levant_PPNB
0.15926963 Levant_PPNC
0.16191246 Levant_Beirut_Hellenistic
0.16389046 Levant_Megiddo_IBA
0.16468870 Levant_Ashkelon_IA2
0.16584487 Levant_LBN_MA
0.16617444 Levant_JOR_EBA
0.16664270 Levant_Beirut_IAIII

Distance to: Moroccan
0.05516866 Canary_Islands_Guanche
0.07073795 Iberia_Central_CA_Afr
0.07777242 ITA_Sardinia_C_o
0.13665123 MAR_LN
0.15697679 Levant_Beirut_IAIII_Egyptian
0.16362445 EGY_Late_Period
0.16451036 EGY_Hellenistic
0.16738137 England_Roman_Near_Eastern_o
0.17483106 Levant_Natufian
0.18191813 Levant_LBN_MA_o1
0.18280868 ITA_Etruscan_o
0.18500204 ITA_Sardinia_Punic
0.18627787 Iberia_Southeast_c.5-8CE
0.18831758 Iberia_Southeast_c.3-4CE
0.18912942 Iberia_Southeast_c.10-16CE
0.18960985 Iberia_Ibiza_Punic
0.19328298 Levant_Beirut_Hellenistic
0.19645937 Levant_PPNC
0.19712384 Levant_PPNB
0.19765787 Levant_JOR_EBA
0.19774644 Levant_Megiddo_IBA
0.19868967 Levant_Ashkelon_IA2
0.20062252 Levant_Sidon_MBA
0.20113269 Levant_LBN_MA
0.20331987 ITA_Sardinia_Late_Antiquity


I see no Iberia_N reference inside closest distances to modern NA.

Hamilcar
09-04-2020, 10:55 PM
You could your ancient references model basing it in close distances wiyj modern population of NA:



I see no Iberia_N reference inside closest distances to modern NA.


I don't understand your point ? I said north africans are mostly EEF not that EEF was their closest population

gixajo
09-04-2020, 10:57 PM
My father will score quite high in this.

Target: Iberia_N
Distance: 4.2288% / 0.04228835
100.0 Sardinian

gixajo
09-04-2020, 10:59 PM
I don't understand your point ? I said north africans are mostly EEF not that EEF was their closest population

Nah, I didnīt know Iberia_N reference, I guess itīs an Iberian Neolithic sample, Iīve just seen it in the datasheet.:thumb001:

gixajo
09-04-2020, 11:02 PM
I don't understand your point ? I said north africans are mostly EEF not that EEF was their closest population

My point is that I didnīt understand well the Iberian_N in that sources, because that reference is not close to modern NA, but itīs ok, you can score in a reference indepently of the distance.

gixajo
09-04-2020, 11:03 PM
Double.

Timeout error...

gixajo
09-04-2020, 11:06 PM
The problem is that CordedWare and Iberian_N eat all the WHG.

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 2.0949% / 0.02094851
47.6 Iberia_N
43.2 Corded_Ware_DEU
4.8 Levant_PPNC
2.8 WHG
1.6 MAR_EN

Target: gixajo_dad_scaled
Distance: 1.8735% / 0.01873518
51.2 Iberia_N
40.6 Corded_Ware_DEU
5.4 Levant_PPNC
2.0 MAR_EN
0.8 SSA

Target: gixajo_mom_scaled
Distance: 2.7077% / 0.02707658
49.6 Iberia_N
45.4 Corded_Ware_DEU
2.6 WHG
2.4 MAR_EN

Hamilcar
09-04-2020, 11:06 PM
My point is that I didnīt understand well the Iberian_N in that sources, because that reference is not close to modern NA, but itīs ok, you can score in a reference indepently of the distance.

iberia_N are basically EEF (anatolian +some WHG) and north africans got it from Iberia that's why this source is better than directly anatolia_barcin


By 3,000 BCE, a continuity in the Neolithic spread brought Mediterranean-like ancestry to the Maghreb, most likely from Iberia. Other archaeological remains, such as African elephant ivory and ostrich eggs found in Iberian sites, confirm the existence of contacts and exchange networks through both sides of the Gibraltar strait at this time. Our analyses strongly support that at least some of the European ancestry observed today in North Africa is related to prehistoric migrations, and local Berber populations were already admixed with Europeans before the Roman conquest. Furthermore, additional European/Iberian ancestry could have reached the Maghreb after KEB people; this scenario is supported by the presence of Iberian-like Bell-Beaker pottery in more recent stratigraphic layers of IAM and KEB caves. Future paleogenomic efforts in North Africa will further disentangle the complex history of migrations that forged the ancestry of the admixed populations we observe today.

https://www.pnas.org/content/115/26/6774#sec-2

Hamilcar
09-04-2020, 11:08 PM
The problem is that CordedWare and Iberian_N eat all the WHG.

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 2.0949% / 0.02094851
47.6 Iberia_N
43.2 Corded_Ware_DEU
4.8 Levant_PPNC
2.8 WHG
1.6 MAR_EN

Target: gixajo_dad_scaled
Distance: 1.8735% / 0.01873518
51.2 Iberia_N
40.6 Corded_Ware_DEU
5.4 Levant_PPNC
2.0 MAR_EN
0.8 SSA

Target: gixajo_mom_scaled
Distance: 2.7077% / 0.02707658
49.6 Iberia_N
45.4 Corded_Ware_DEU
2.6 WHG
2.4 MAR_EN


I primarly made this model for north africans but as long as it is accurate for you I don't see the problem

gixajo
09-04-2020, 11:09 PM
iberia_N are basically EEF (anatolian +some WHG) and north africans got it from Iberia that's why this source is better than directly anatolia_barcin



https://www.pnas.org/content/115/26/6774#sec-2

I see, itīs 100% Sardinian comparing with modern population, and Sardinians era suposedly 100% EEF, isnīt it?

Hamilcar
09-04-2020, 11:10 PM
I see, itīs 100% Sardinian comparing with modern population, and Sardinians era suposedly 100% EEF, isnīt it?

they also have some WHG (so yes )

gixajo
09-04-2020, 11:14 PM
I primarly made this model for north africans but as long as it is accurate for you I don't see the problem

I donīt see any problem in this. Very good distances.

gixajo
09-04-2020, 11:17 PM
https://i.imgur.com/x9iwbRI.png

https://i.imgur.com/k0ngMs3.png

Hapanuwa
09-04-2020, 11:24 PM
Using unscaled would be better in the case of Turks because then we get more realistic distances.

As you can see, the majority of Turks are closer to Greeks, in particular the Islanders, which I heard are the most ''pure'' Greeks.
The following are closer to Syrians than Greeks: Turkish_Adana, Turkish_Kayseri, Turkish_South are closer to Syrians than Greeks. You could add Turkish_East to the list since Syrians is the second closest sample after Greek_Trabzon, which are mainly Caucasians with minor Greek heritage/blood.

We can observe that Turks mainly from the south are closer to Syrians because of their geographic position, as well as those in and near Kayseri/central and the east.



Distance to: Turkish_Adana
0.01784145 Syrian
0.01994243 Greek_Crete
0.02061251 Greek_Kos
0.02346327 Greek_Trabzon
0.02482263 Greek_Izmir
0.02896945 Greek_Thessaly
0.02927663 Greek_Peloponnese
0.02998872 Greek_Central_Macedonia


Distance to: Turkish_Aydin
0.01877344 Greek_Crete
0.01994064 Greek_Kos
0.02172542 Syrian
0.02178996 Greek_Izmir
0.02490460 Greek_Trabzon
0.02511359 Greek_Thessaly
0.02566405 Greek_Peloponnese
0.02582531 Greek_Central_Macedonia



Distance to: Turkish_Balikesir
0.01948898 Greek_Crete
0.02194330 Greek_Kos
0.02245078 Greek_Izmir
0.02302996 Greek_Thessaly
0.02387953 Syrian
0.02629593 Greek_Central_Macedonia
0.02646160 Greek_Peloponnese
0.02843589 Greek_Trabzon




Distance to: Turkish_Central
0.01887396 Greek_Crete
0.01942576 Syrian
0.02005557 Greek_Kos
0.02013592 Greek_Trabzon
0.02371669 Greek_Izmir
0.02744376 Greek_Thessaly
0.02812080 Greek_Peloponnese
0.02897059 Greek_Central_Macedonia



Distance to: Turkish_Deliorman
0.01624582 Greek_Central_Macedonia
0.01824554 Greek_Thessaly
0.02088825 Greek_Izmir
0.02219222 Greek_Crete
0.02365119 Greek_Peloponnese
0.02720902 Greek_Kos
0.03275295 Syrian
0.03918897 Greek_Trabzon




Distance to: Turkish_East
0.01872385 Greek_Trabzon
0.02243736 Syrian
0.02515997 Greek_Kos
0.02620040 Greek_Crete
0.03018861 Greek_Izmir
0.03431449 Greek_Thessaly
0.03452051 Greek_Peloponnese
0.03595541 Greek_Central_Macedonia




Distance to: Turkish_Istanbul
0.01637540 Greek_Crete
0.01784798 Greek_Kos
0.01834752 Greek_Izmir
0.02138297 Greek_Thessaly
0.02214908 Greek_Central_Macedonia
0.02248117 Greek_Peloponnese
0.02262309 Syrian
0.02466398 Greek_Trabzon



Distance to: Turkish_Kayseri
0.01798480 Syrian
0.01911952 Greek_Crete
0.01997484 Greek_Kos
0.02034873 Greek_Trabzon
0.02473661 Greek_Izmir
0.02861173 Greek_Thessaly
0.02903755 Greek_Peloponnese
0.03020710 Greek_Central_Macedonia




Distance to: Turkish_North
0.01976820 Greek_Crete
0.02121273 Greek_Trabzon
0.02185016 Greek_Kos
0.02386951 Greek_Izmir
0.02415070 Syrian
0.02645427 Greek_Thessaly
0.02787251 Greek_Peloponnese
0.02849981 Greek_Central_Macedonia




Distance to: Turkish_Northwest
0.01994647 Greek_Crete
0.02103744 Greek_Kos
0.02145824 Greek_Izmir
0.02373781 Syrian
0.02464398 Greek_Thessaly
0.02483534 Greek_Central_Macedonia
0.02505480 Greek_Peloponnese
0.02604756 Greek_Trabzon




Distance to: Turkish_Rumeli
0.01526319 Greek_Central_Macedonia
0.01605310 Greek_Izmir
0.01750382 Greek_Peloponnese
0.01949470 Greek_Thessaly
0.02170193 Greek_Kos
0.02172862 Greek_Crete
0.03024243 Syrian
0.03893812 Greek_Trabzon




Distance to: Turkish_South
0.02177927 Syrian
0.02305869 Greek_Kos
0.02338524 Greek_Crete
0.02544025 Greek_Trabzon
0.02563789 Greek_Izmir
0.02945272 Greek_Peloponnese
0.02969342 Greek_Thessaly
0.03028192 Greek_Central_Macedonia




Distance to: Turkish_Southwest
0.01932703 Greek_Kos
0.02143404 Greek_Izmir
0.02172719 Greek_Crete
0.02319360 Syrian
0.02484757 Greek_Peloponnese
0.02646159 Greek_Central_Macedonia
0.02707384 Greek_Thessaly
0.02873860 Greek_Trabzon



Distance to: Turkish_Trabzon
0.00773454 Greek_Trabzon
0.02605322 Greek_Kos
0.02740232 Greek_Crete
0.02909261 Syrian
0.03184213 Greek_Izmir
0.03537909 Greek_Peloponnese
0.03679198 Greek_Thessaly
0.03789571 Greek_Central_Macedonia



Here's my results as well:

Distance to: Hapanuwa
0.02002565 Greek_Crete
0.02069085 Greek_Kos
0.02170694 Greek_Izmir
0.02355109 Syrian
0.02446671 Greek_Thessaly
0.02548177 Greek_Peloponnese
0.02634553 Greek_Trabzon
0.02639545 Greek_Central_Macedonia

gixajo
09-04-2020, 11:25 PM
Quite good distances for italians too:

https://i.imgur.com/7C8xZCq.png

Hamilcar
09-04-2020, 11:32 PM
Using unscaled would be better in the case of Turks because then we get more realistic distances.

As you can see, the majority of Turks are closer to Greeks, in particular the Islanders, which I heard are the most ''pure'' Greeks.
The following are closer to Syrians than Greeks: Turkish_Adana, Turkish_Kayseri, Turkish_South are closer to Syrians than Greeks. You could add Turkish_East to the list since Syrians is the second closest sample after Greek_Trabzon, which are mainly Caucasians with minor Greek heritage/blood.

We can observe that Turks mainly from the south are closer to Syrians because of their geographic position, as well as those in and near Kayseri/central and the east.





No unscaled is absolutely not accurate when it comes to distances ask anyone if you don't trust me

Hamilcar
09-04-2020, 11:34 PM
Quite good distances for italians too:

https://i.imgur.com/7C8xZCq.png

many of them have more ME ancestry than north africans

gixajo
09-04-2020, 11:34 PM
For central europeans countries and balkans maybe better add yamnaya also because they get higher distances?

https://i.imgur.com/dAw47Kn.png

Hamilcar
09-04-2020, 11:36 PM
For central europeans countries and balkans maybe better add yamnaya also because they get higher distances?

https://i.imgur.com/dAw47Kn.png

in the case of greeks try levant_PPNB, Devil's cave gate and yamnaya BGR

gixajo
09-04-2020, 11:39 PM
Nah, I think the old Rocinante model with ancient components itīs better and more accurate than yours, but itīs ok.

Adamm did a very similar one, maybe mixing those 3 models...

Hamilcar
09-04-2020, 11:40 PM
Nah, I think the old Rocinante model with ancient components itīs better and more accurate than yours, but itīs ok.

Adamm did a very similar one, maybe mixing those 3 models...

I told you I made this model for north africans certainly not central and east europeans lol

gixajo
09-04-2020, 11:46 PM
many of them have more ME ancestry than north africans

Maybe, but most of your components are quite mixed so probably these results are not accurate, i doubt that North Italians have so ME as this indicates.

I cannot have more WHG than my mother, and my mother cannot have more Mar_EN than my father or me for example, and my mother should have scored some Levant also.

So beautiful model, but you will have work more in it.

gixajo
09-04-2020, 11:50 PM
I told you I made this model for north africans certainly not central and east europeans lol

But Italians get also very good distances, but I donīt think those results define them well.

But of course, I could be wrong, I donīt know a lot about ancient references (still).

Hapanuwa
09-04-2020, 11:55 PM
No unscaled is absolutely not accurate when it comes to distances ask anyone if you don't trust me

It's not about that I don't trust you. What I'm referring to is that ''scaled overestimate the difference between East Eurasian and West Eurasian. Despite it might be good while using the ADMIXTURE method it is definitely worse on single population sharing'', to quote Kaspias, who is the most knowledgeable member about Turkish genetics here.

Because of the East Eurasian of Turks, even those in the west are getting plotted in the Caucasus, while they are very similar to the Islanders that live near them.

Just look at my scaled as an example. There's no way that I'm closer to Caucasians, Ezids, Roma's from Madrid and Kurds, who are miles far than to Greek_Kos or Greek_Central_Anatolia (basically Indigenous Anatolians) next door.


Distance to: Hapanuwa_scaled
0.02957951 Turkish_North
0.02998560 Turkish_Central
0.03074841 Turkish_Istanbul
0.03099855 Turkish_Aydin
0.03200710 Turkish_Balikesir
0.03259897 Turkish_Northwest
0.03457727 Turkish_Southwest
0.03858439 Turkish_Adana
0.03908261 Turkish_South
0.04022503 Turkish_Kayseri
0.05293618 Turkish_Rumeli
0.05542821 Azeri
0.05779079 Azeri_Turkey
0.05872379 Turkish_East
0.05883111 Kumyk
0.05898135 Kabardin
0.06145890 Azeri_Dagestan
0.06509345 Abazin
0.06514907 Cherkes
0.06530046 Karachay
0.06560158 Circassian
0.06685415 Ashkenazi_Lithuania
0.06692696 Ashkenazi_Russia
0.06813410 Ashkenazi_Belarussia
0.06916515 Turkish_Deliorman
0.07074870 Balkar
0.07075192 Ashkenazi_Ukraine
0.07181428 Ashkenazi_Poland
0.07299873 Ezid
0.07374110 Talysh_Azerbaijan
0.07460248 Roma_Madrid
0.07530668 Adygei
0.07640529 Greek_Crete
0.07671711 Ingushian
0.07757843 Iranian_Fars
0.07772325 Kurdish
0.07810150 Greek_Kos
0.07835223 Ashkenazi_Germany
0.07870179 Greek_Central_Anatolia
0.07903267 North_Ossetian

Hamilcar
09-05-2020, 12:03 AM
It's not about that I don't trust you. What I'm referring to is that ''scaled overestimate the difference between East Eurasian and West Eurasian. Despite it might be good while using the ADMIXTURE method it is definitely worse on single population sharing'', to quote Kaspias, who is the most knowledgeable member about Turkish genetics here.

Because of the East Eurasian of Turks, even those in the west are getting plotted in the Caucasus, while they are very similar to the Islanders that live near them.

Just look at my scaled as an example. There's no way that I'm closer to Caucasians, Ezids, Roma's from Madrid and Kurds, who are miles far than to Greek_Kos or Greek_Central_Anatolia (basically Indigenous Anatolians) next door.




why does it surprise you if you have east eurasian admixture + way more west asian admixture ?? Also by following your logic that would makes north africans closer to europeans than middle easterners which is ridiculous

Hapanuwa
09-05-2020, 12:17 AM
why does it surprise you if you have east eurasian admixture + way more west asian admixture ?? Also by following your logic that would makes north africans closer to europeans than middle easterners which is ridiculous

I'm not surprised, I'm simply explaining to you why I think that it is unfair to claim that the great majority of Turks are closer to Syrians than to Greeks when you use scaled, which is not a good representative when you're using it for singe population sharing. If you want to look for the distance for Turks, unscaled is clearly a better fit. I mean many of those near the Aegean coast have actual Greek heritage but would get better distances to Syrians and Caucasians, while the East Eurasian is the only thing seperating them from the Greek Islanders

I don't know enough about North Africans, so I won't talk about that but it wouldn't surprise me if there are people who are closer to (South) Europeans (Iberians in particular) than the ME.

gixajo
09-05-2020, 12:21 AM
Anyway, I like discovering that reference Iberian_N, Iīve never used before, that could be useful.

gixajo
09-05-2020, 12:27 AM
And this simple variation of the typical ancient references based model?



GEO_CHG,0.091058,0.102568,-0.083344,-0.00323,-0.08617,0.020638,0.024911,-0.001846,-0.128236,-0.074717,-0.006333,0.023979,-0.054856,0.004404,0.026601,-0.03275,0.02386,-0.013429,-0.022249,0.034767,0.033815,-0.007048,0.006532,-0.025787,-0.002036
IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N,0.0430252,0.0664158,-0.1550722,0.0047158,-0.122669,0.0235384,0.017109,-0.0011998,-0.082546,-0.0544158,-0.0028258,-0.0016186,0.0044896,-0.0062756,0.0316498,0.0561384,-0.0054242,0.0068664,0.0136508,-0.0334162,0.00856,-0.028836,-0.0110678,-0.039331,0.0222254
TUR_Barcin_N,0.1175998,0.180118,0.0035312,-0.101158,0.0510443,-0.0483875,-0.0043582,-0.0069334,0.0362287,0.0807473,0.0079718,0.0118803,-0.0234545,0.0004691,-0.0419807,-0.0101913,0.0233091,0.0019866,0.0136954,-0.0097489,-0.0142249,0.0057723,-0.0041232,-0.0031658,-0.0043437
Levant_Natufian,0.020488,0.1431895,-0.0377125,-0.1387295,0.030775,-0.079484,-0.025616,-0.0175375,0.114329,0.002005,0.0332085,-0.0222555,0.076486,0.002133,0.0153365,0.009016,-0.0154505,-0.001014,-0.02206,0.040832,0.001497,0.0001235,-0.003636,-0.0044585,0.006287
Yamnaya_RUS_Samara,0.1255849,0.089028,0.0426986,0. 1153479,-0.0287232,0.0450564,0.0036033,-0.0025642,-0.0559032,-0.0728943,0.0018222,3.32e-05,-0.0026924,-0.0233041,0.0366141,0.0157633,-0.0012316,-0.0017879,-0.0038408,0.0137704,-0.0031749,0.0007557,0.0110649,0.0186102,-0.004537
TZA_Pemba_600BP,-0.616921,0.066009,0.021119,0.011305,0.004001,0.013 108,-0.00987,0.016153,-0.020248,0.002187,0.000812,0.007943,-0.014717,0.003165,-0.019272,0.005304,-0.014212,0.00266,-0.006034,0.006503,0.004118,0.003957,0.001849,0.005 663,0.003233
LUX_Loschbour,0.133173,0.106631,0.20176,0.192186,0 .164338,0.055778,0.00611,0.036922,0.096535,0.02278 ,-0.020786,-0.016186,0.024975,-0.007432,0.065824,0.063643,0.008084,0.006714,-0.013324,0.065281,0.120038,0.019166,-0.059405,-0.175687,0.022992
MAR_Taforalt,-0.189857,0.0814452,-0.0242866,-0.085595,0.027636,-0.0552202,-0.0705968,0.0184146,0.155397,0.003499,0.0209156,-0.0318316,0.0747168,-0.0513334,0.0711988,-0.0363032,0.0052676,-0.066106,-0.1424162,0.0389938,-0.0376836,-0.1255322,0.0730118,-0.0137606,0.0164534
Hun_Tian_Shan,0.0867453,-0.0678801,0.0366602,0.047702,-0.0416433,0.0071483,0.0034508,0.0032548,-0.0173307,-0.0242373,-0.0082134,-0.0019088,0.0009623,-0.0222369,0.0142363,0.0097069,-0.0019694,0.001867,-0.0008601,0.0016522,-0.0145467,0.0016401,-0.0011352,0.0035261,2.53e-05

gixajo
09-05-2020, 12:31 AM
https://i.imgur.com/hJsHIZy.png

gixajo
09-05-2020, 12:45 AM
In the end I think that I will continue to use the traditional models with old references, at least to observe the different levels of genetic contributions in pre-Neolithic, Neolithic and post-Neolithic Europe.

In the end that is the objective of this type of model, not to see who is more or less European, Asian or African.:)

gixajo
09-05-2020, 12:45 AM
In the end I think that I will continue to use the traditional models with old references, at least to observe the different levels of genetic contributions in pre-Neolithic, Neolithic and post-Neolithic Europe.

In the end that is the objective of this type of model, not to see who is more or less European, Asian or African.:)


I say this, because in the end it seems that that was the intention of this thread from the beginning, and I have no interest in discerning something like that, because I, like any Spanish, Portuguese, Italian, Greek, Balkan are 100% European.:D