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Peterski
08-24-2020, 01:32 AM
How about making Ukrainian national average? In my opinion, for example in Global25 Western Ukrainians are over-represented.
Currently existing GEDmatch averages for Ukraine, also skew in favour of Western Ukrainians.
This is a collection of 28 Belarusians from Minsk & 28 Ukrainians from Kiev, academic samples, but they are not in Global25 yet:
Eurogenes K15:
Belarusian_Minsk_1,19.89,16.97,33.82,20.59,4.6,0.2 5,0,1.02,0.94,1.01,0,0,0.1,0.8,0
Belarusian_Minsk_2,21.05,21.19,35.44,16.66,0.9,2.4 8,0,0,1.03,0,0,0.71,0.41,0,0.12
Belarusian_Minsk_3,15.55,19.55,30.68,24.26,2.44,0. 83,4.66,0.96,0.51,0,0.51,0,0.03,0,0
Belarusian_Minsk_4,17.11,15.11,36.94,19.34,3.23,3. 07,3.05,0.65,0,0.59,0.29,0,0.64,0,0
Belarusian_Minsk_5,18.59,15.15,30.84,25.33,5.44,1. 19,0,1.15,1.07,0,0.17,0.5,0.22,0.35,0
Belarusian_Minsk_6,18.77,15.72,36.06,20.85,3.26,1. 19,1.29,0.42,2.06,0,0,0,0,0.23,0.15
Belarusian_Minsk_7,19.12,16.33,34.09,20.44,3.6,0.4 8,3.98,0,0.54,0,0,1.07,0.35,0,0
Belarusian_Minsk_8,23.8,12.67,31.7,20.02,3.18,3.63 ,0,1.78,2.77,0,0,0.1,0.35,0,0
Belarusian_Minsk_9,16.81,17.08,34.9,17.53,4.49,4.4 7,1.91,0,0.79,0,1.92,0,0,0,0.12
Belarusian_Minsk_11,18.33,17.68,28.81,23.03,4.52,4 .59,0.72,0,1.24,0,0,1.08,0,0,0
Belarusian_Minsk_12,17.49,20.08,31.41,23.97,1.64,4 .71,0,0,0.03,0.1,0,0,0.25,0.33,0
Belarusian_Minsk_13,20.84,13.53,33.03,18.75,7.33,2 .44,2.66,0,0.2,0,0.04,0.29,0,0.58,0.31
Belarusian_Minsk_14,17.17,18.48,29.73,23.18,6.52,2 .59,1.8,0,0.53,0,0,0,0,0,0
Belarusian_Minsk_15,16.15,16.71,34.7,23.78,5.6,0.3 9,0,0,2.57,0,0,0.09,0,0,0
Belarusian_Minsk_16,21.73,16.14,29.35,20.79,3.93,6 .25,0.27,0,0,0,0,0.68,0.68,0,0.17
Belarusian_Minsk_17,18.24,15.27,35.73,21.57,3.34,4 .17,0,0,0.02,0,0,0.21,1.43,0,0
Belarusian_Minsk_18,17.32,16.06,35.75,22.14,4.16,1 .64,0.63,0,1.78,0,0,0.33,0,0.19,0
Belarusian_Minsk_19,13.73,15.09,31.99,25,6.26,5.19 ,1.22,0,0,0,0,0.12,0.36,1.03,0
Belarusian_Minsk_20,19.65,13.51,32.25,22.27,4.23,6 .43,0,0.04,1.34,0,0,0.28,0,0,0
Belarusian_Minsk_21,23.78,11.11,32.2,21.17,6.96,2. 72,0,0,0,0,0,0.99,1.07,0,0
Belarusian_Minsk_22,14.16,20.89,34.51,22.76,3.16,1 .46,0,0,0.73,0.17,0,1.7,0,0,0.46
Belarusian_Minsk_23,19.14,16.65,32.98,19.01,2.44,4 .16,2.57,0,0,0,1.52,0,0.68,0,0.85
Belarusian_Minsk_25,21.53,18.87,30.56,22.42,2.71,2 .62,0,0,0,0,0,0.83,0.47,0,0
Belarusian_Minsk_26,23.56,10.55,31.89,20.32,8.18,0 .72,3.55,0,0,0.06,0.09,0.45,0,0,0.63
Belarusian_Minsk_27,19.09,11.91,29.15,24.64,8.4,3. 2,0,1.71,0.65,0,0.96,0.29,0,0,0
Belarusian_Minsk_28,18.92,15.38,29.64,20.23,8.79,2 .36,1.91,0,0,0,1.92,0,0.13,0,0.72
Belarusian_Minsk_Avg(n=26),18.90,16.06,32.62,21.54 ,4.59,2.82,1.16,0.30,0.72,0.07,0.29,0.37,0.28,0.14 ,0.14
Belarusian_Minsk_10_outlier,11.56,17.8,24.97,18.86 ,8.95,6.28,8.88,0.4,0.86,1.04,0.1,0,0,0,0.3
Belarusian_Minsk_24_outlier,11.45,19.41,20.89,17.2 7,7.03,12.22,5.73,1.49,1.79,0.27,1.47,0.27,0,0.71, 0
Eurogenes K15:
Ukrainian_Kiev_1,20.5,12.08,30.33,17.74,7.66,4.18, 6.19,0.7,0,0,0,0,0.41,0,0.22
Ukrainian_Kiev_2,16.04,17.2,27.56,18.33,7.01,4.04, 4.08,4.51,0,0.93,0,0.31,0,0,0
Ukrainian_Kiev_3,21.59,9.87,29.83,22.88,6.63,7.1,0 .19,0,0.34,0.43,0.64,0,0.5,0,0
Ukrainian_Kiev_4,19.29,17.35,30.54,20.87,1.11,7.08 ,0.21,0.11,0,0,1.79,1.04,0,0.61,0
Ukrainian_Kiev_5,15.8,17.65,28.02,21.53,7.06,3.76, 2.49,2.37,0,0,0,0,0,0.48,0.86
Ukrainian_Kiev_6,18.49,18.35,31.42,18.1,4.52,5.4,0 ,0.11,2.06,0,0,0.77,0.19,0,0.59
Ukrainian_Kiev_7,17.1,14.93,28.21,23.51,5.8,2.54,2 .85,0,1.15,0,1.88,1.16,0.87,0,0
Ukrainian_Kiev_8,21.72,11.86,31.08,18.77,5.75,5.5, 0.72,2.61,0.4,0.4,1.19,0,0,0.01,0
Ukrainian_Kiev_9,16.09,18.5,34.59,18.16,3.18,5.55, 2.82,0.14,0,0,0,0,0.98,0,0
Ukrainian_Kiev_10,21.95,13.11,31.69,17.74,5.95,5.8 1,0,0,0.95,0,0,0.35,1.69,0,0.76
Ukrainian_Kiev_11,21.73,16.65,25.36,17.02,6.1,3.59 ,4.49,0,0.69,0,2.71,0.86,0.36,0,0.45
Ukrainian_Kiev_12,18.45,19,26.47,17.14,6.48,5.27,2 .49,1.97,0.71,0,1.14,0.18,0.67,0,0.03
Ukrainian_Kiev_13,18.63,10.74,31.92,20.29,7.7,3.99 ,3.65,1.54,0,0,0,1.37,0.16,0,0
Ukrainian_Kiev_15,13.97,18.39,32.91,22.3,4.9,4.48, 0,0.72,0.33,0,0,1.3,0,0,0.69
Ukrainian_Kiev_16,15.52,19.83,28.56,18.59,5.89,3.4 9,5.89,0,0,1.52,0,0,0,0,0.72
Ukrainian_Kiev_18,16.66,17.43,32.97,20.86,5.19,2.1 7,3.32,0,0,0,0.39,0,0.38,0,0.64
Ukrainian_Kiev_21,18.99,13.85,30.98,17.99,6.11,4,4 .38,1.7,1.04,0.55,0.41,0,0,0,0
Ukrainian_Kiev_22,19.38,15.85,29.28,20.33,5.74,4.1 1,3.98,0.8,0,0,0,0.36,0,0.18,0
Ukrainian_Kiev_24,13.44,17.5,31.09,20.87,3.32,7.28 ,4.36,0,1.33,0,0.81,0,0.01,0,0
Ukrainian_Kiev_25,20.63,13.36,31.24,21.24,4.77,4.0 3,1.11,1.27,1.31,0,0,0.98,0,0,0.05
Ukrainian_Kiev_26,18.44,13.97,29.45,21.91,7.34,6.0 7,1.18,1.19,0,0.45,0,0,0,0,0
Ukrainian_Kiev_27,22.93,15.67,27.95,18.78,6.58,5.8 1,0.9,0,0.39,0,0,0.07,0.52,0,0.4
Ukrainian_Kiev_28,14.63,16.93,31.66,18.35,8.06,4.1 ,2.35,1.57,0,0,0,1.36,0,0.32,0.69
Ukrainian_Kiev_Avg(n=23),18.35,15.66,30.14,19.71,5 .78,4.75,2.51,0.93,0.47,0.19,0.48,0.44,0.29,0.07,0 .27
Ukrainian_Kiev_14_outlier,21.88,15.05,23.92,15.29, 12.15,3.78,3.59,1.27,1.44,0,0.53,0.04,1.06,0,0
Ukrainian_Kiev_17_outlier,25.06,15.19,27.81,16.62, 8.44,2.18,0,0.84,1.74,0,0.76,0.35,1,0,0
Ukrainian_Kiev_23_outlier,19.59,14.06,25.81,16.66, 7.66,7.56,6.65,0.18,1.02,0,0,0,0.22,0.58,0
Ukrainian_Kiev_19_mixed,14.87,6.79,22.89,28.49,5.1 8,6.34,0,0.64,0.16,0.51,11.87,1.17,0,0,1.08
Ukrainian_Kiev_20_mixed,20.05,11.48,22.43,18.12,3. 49,16.6,3.35,0.4,1.82,0,1.13,0,0,0.48,0.63
See how they compare to existing K15 averages, as you can see Kiev Ukrainians appear rather eastern-shifted here:
https://i.imgur.com/nJjdc8k.png
https://i.imgur.com/GB28J8E.png
From Kiev average I removed 2 mixed with Tatars/Kavkaz and 3 too western/southern shifted compared to the rest.
Peterski
08-24-2020, 01:38 AM
^^^
According to what Leto posted, actually 70% of Ukrainians live to the east of Kiev (so should be even more eastern-shifted):
Not just Southern Ukraine. Most of today's Ukraine east of Kiev. That area also contains around 70% of the population.
As per the 1989 census (last Soviet census)
https://i.ibb.co/0FnwF0b/Ukraine-West-vs-East.png.
Coastal Elite
08-24-2020, 01:42 AM
When Peterski returns you know Slavs are back in town.
https://youtu.be/hQo1HIcSVtg
Peterski
08-24-2020, 01:48 AM
Also here is for example a Western Ukrainian with GEDCOM pedigree with both parents from Volhynia, I trust this result more than academic samples from Volhynia (from Estonian scientists) which look like they are mixed with Volhynian Poles/Czechs/Germans:
Population
North_Sea 18.69 Pct
Atlantic 15.46 Pct
Baltic 32.29 Pct
Eastern_Euro 19.61 Pct
West_Med 5.95 Pct
West_Asian 4.70 Pct
East_Med 0.28 Pct
Red_Sea 0.27 Pct
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian 1.46 Pct
Amerindian 0.76 Pct
Oceanian 0.52 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -
^^^
This Volhynian Ukrainian from GEDmatch is actually close to academic Polish samples from Lublin Voivodeship:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lublin_Voivodeship
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 32.29
2 Eastern_Euro 19.61
3 North_Sea 18.69
4 Atlantic 15.46
5 West_Med 5.95
6 West_Asian 4.7
7 Siberian 1.46
8 Amerindian 0.76
9 Oceanian 0.52
10 East_Med 0.28
11 Red_Sea 0.27
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Russian_Smolensk 4.18
2 Belorussian 4.42
3 Estonian_Polish 4.55
4 Southwest_Russian 4.58
5 Ukrainian_Belgorod 4.83
6 Polish 5.92
7 Lithuanian 5.96
8 South_Polish 6.29
9 Ukrainian 6.34
10 Ukrainian_Lviv 6.82
11 Estonian 8.58
12 Kargopol_Russian 10.11
13 Erzya 11.44
14 Croatian 11.58
15 Moldavian 13.54
16 East_Finnish 13.67
17 Finnish 14.34
18 Hungarian 14.82
19 Southwest_Finnish 15.46
20 Austrian 16.51
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 71.9% Lithuanian + 28.1% Moldavian @ 2.99
2 68.7% Lithuanian + 31.3% Croatian @ 3.14
3 54.7% Lithuanian + 45.3% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.39
4 52% Lithuanian + 48% South_Polish @ 3.43
5 52.3% Lithuanian + 47.7% Ukrainian @ 3.46
6 68.1% Russian_Smolensk + 31.9% Lithuanian @ 3.52
7 81.9% Lithuanian + 18.1% Romanian @ 3.54
8 67.2% Estonian_Polish + 32.8% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.56
9 83.2% Lithuanian + 16.8% Bulgarian @ 3.61
10 89.3% Lithuanian + 10.7% Nogay @ 3.63
11 69.7% Belorussian + 30.3% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.64
12 80.9% Lithuanian + 19.1% Serbian @ 3.67
13 60.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 39.8% Lithuanian @ 3.72
14 68.4% Belorussian + 31.6% Ukrainian @ 3.73
15 91.8% Lithuanian + 8.2% Sardinian @ 3.73
16 87.7% Lithuanian + 12.3% North_Italian @ 3.74
17 66.7% Estonian_Polish + 33.3% Ukrainian @ 3.78
18 88.4% Lithuanian + 11.6% Tuscan @ 3.8
19 91.1% Lithuanian + 8.9% Balkar @ 3.8
20 94.8% Belorussian + 5.2% Nogay @ 3.84
Gerson
08-24-2020, 05:53 AM
puntDNAL K12 Modern Oracle results:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 European_HG 40.03
2 Anatolian_NF 27.86
3 Caucasus_HG 22.06
4 Near_East 4.17
5 Amerindian 2.8
6 Siberian 1.37
7 Oceanian 0.94
8 East_Asian 0.77
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Hungarian 5.4
2 Croatian 6.47
3 Dutch_South 7.38
4 Czech 7.47
5 Dutch_North 7.87
6 German_North 8.29
7 English_South 9.05
8 Irish 9.15
9 Romanian 9.22
10 Scottish_West 9.36
11 Utahn_European 9.54
12 Belgian 10.5
13 German_South 10.9
14 Norwegian 10.91
15 Swedish 12.07
16 Icelandic 12.17
17 Bulgarian 12.29
18 Mordovian 12.31
19 Belarusian 13.69
20 French 14.67
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 68% Croatian + 32% Mordovian @ 3.26
2 74.7% Croatian + 25.3% Russian @ 3.27
3 60.8% Bulgarian + 39.2% Estonian @ 3.32
4 59.8% Bulgarian + 40.2% Finnish @ 3.36
5 52.9% Bulgarian + 47.1% Belarusian @ 3.4
6 81.1% Czech + 18.9% Nogai @ 3.47
7 60.3% Estonian + 39.7% Ashkenazi_Jew @ 3.5
8 68.7% Belarusian + 31.3% Sicilian_East @ 3.56
9 61.3% Estonian + 38.7% Sicilian_East @ 3.58
10 75.2% Belarusian + 24.8% Cypriot @ 3.59
11 67.8% Belarusian + 32.2% Ashkenazi_Jew @ 3.59
12 74.3% Icelandic + 25.7% Turkish @ 3.63
13 76.6% Croatian + 23.4% Finnish @ 3.64
14 62.1% Bulgarian + 37.9% Lithuanian @ 3.65
15 68.6% Estonian + 31.4% Cypriot @ 3.67
16 58.3% Bulgarian + 41.7% Russian @ 3.68
17 83.8% Czech + 16.2% Turkish @ 3.73
18 70.7% Icelandic + 29.3% Turkish_Aydin @ 3.8
19 67.6% Belarusian + 32.4% Sicilian_West @ 3.81
20 81.3% Czech + 18.7% Turkish_Aydin @ 3.83
Peterski
08-24-2020, 09:39 AM
^^^
What kind of sample is that?
Why would you remove S/W shifted samples? Makes no sense. These people are probably western Ukrainians and capitals have people from all regions.
It's totally unrealistic to have homogenous average from capital city.
Peterski
08-24-2020, 09:51 AM
Why would you remove S/W shifted samples?
Because they are the only ones who are obvious immigrants, others can pass as local Central Ukrainians.
Anyway it doesn't change much in distances, here the average with 26 samples (including 3 SW-shifted):
Ukrainian_Kiev_AvgB(n=26),18.79,15.55,29.64,19.30, 6.20,4.73,2.61,0.91,0.57,0.16,0.47,0.40,0.35,0.08, 0.23
Distance to: Ukrainian_Kiev_AvgB(n=26)
3.57906412 Russian_Smolensk
4.26875860 Ukrainian_Belgorod
4.29981395 Southwest_Russian
4.44275815 South_Polish
4.91692994 Ukrainian
5.14771794 Polish
5.28524361 Belorussian
5.36008395 Ukraine_East
5.37404875 Ukrainian_Lviv
(...)
Ion Basescul
08-24-2020, 09:54 AM
I thought the contrary, that Western Ukrainians are under-represented. Who are Western Ukrainians there, apart from the person from Lviv?
Peterski
08-24-2020, 09:56 AM
I thought the contrary, that Western Ukrainians are under-represented. Who are Western Ukrainians there, apart from the person from Lviv?
In Global25 ???
Ion Basescul
08-24-2020, 10:07 AM
In Global25 ???
This name is so confusing. I was referring to Davidski's modern spreadsheet and not Lukasz's K13.
Lucas
08-24-2020, 10:12 AM
You want change in G25 or K15 on Vahaduo?
Peterski
08-24-2020, 10:15 AM
This name is so confusing. I was referring to Davidski's modern spreadsheet
Both Ukrainian reference in G25 & Ukrainian references in original GEDmatch spreadsheets for Eurogenes K13/K15 are mostly Western Ukrainians AFAIK.
Davidski told me that "Ukrainian" average in K15/K13 (original spreadsheets from GEDmatch) are based mostly on samples from North-Western Ukraine.
These 28 Kiev Ukrainians are from "Between Baltic and Baikal" study and are probably the most representative. They were not used in Global25.
Lucas
08-24-2020, 10:21 AM
Because they are the only ones who are obvious immigrants, others can pass as local Central Ukrainians.
Anyway it doesn't change much in distances, here the average with 26 samples (including 3 SW-shifted):
Ukrainian_Kiev_AvgB(n=26),18.79,15.55,29.64,19.30, 6.20,4.73,2.61,0.91,0.57,0.16,0.47,0.40,0.35,0.08, 0.23
Distance to: Ukrainian_Kiev_AvgB(n=26)
3.57906412 Russian_Smolensk
4.26875860 Ukrainian_Belgorod
4.29981395 Southwest_Russian
4.44275815 South_Polish
4.91692994 Ukrainian
5.14771794 Polish
5.28524361 Belorussian
5.36008395 Ukraine_East
5.37404875 Ukrainian_Lviv
(...)
I added to http://vahaduo.genetics.ovh/k15-vahaduo.htm
this average instead of original from Gedmatch. I used it too in K36 and is verified that it is good.
Besides it there are still such K15 refs:
Ukrainian_Belgorod,17.90,15.05,29.66,22.16,3.76,6. 41,2.58,0.64,0.68,0.21,0.21,0.31,0.12,0.14,0.17
Ukrainian_Lviv,22.18,13.92,27.35,16.68,7.54,4.90,3 .14,1.44,0.97,0.25,0.54,0.54,0.45,0.04,0.05
Ukraine_East,18.08,13.38,31.97,22.31,6.69,2.68,1.1 0,0.14,1.86,0.29,0.40,0.42,0.36,0.20,0.12
Peterski
08-24-2020, 10:32 AM
What is "Ukraine_East" ???
Does it include this academic sample supposedly from Sumy Oblast which actually plots with Czechs & East Germans? :)
This Sumy Oblast sample is in Global25. It plots around Czechs, LOL.
Lucas
08-24-2020, 10:47 AM
What is "Ukraine_East" ???
Does it include this academic sample supposedly from Sumy Oblast which actually plots with Czechs & East Germans? :)
This Sumy Oblast sample is in Global25. It plots around Czechs, LOL.
Don't remember. It was posted in Vahaduo thread here probably.
Lucas
08-24-2020, 10:49 AM
What is "Ukraine_East" ???
Does it include this academic sample supposedly from Sumy Oblast which actually plots with Czechs & East Germans? :)
This Sumy Oblast sample is in Global25. It plots around Czechs, LOL.
It's actually very NE. Certainly not this Sume Oblast "Czech like". Maybe Leto posted it.
Target: Ukraine_East
Distance: 3.7444% / 3.74442553 | ADC: 0.5x
38.2 Estonian_Polish
20.2 Ukrainian
14.6 Ukrainian_Belgorod
11.2 Lithuanian
8.6 Erzya
7.2 Latvian
Target: Ukraine_East
Distance: 2.3820% / 2.38195153 | ADC: 0.25x
42.6 Latvian
22.2 Ukrainian_Belgorod
10.8 Ukrainian
10.6 Erzya
8.6 Estonian_Polish
4.4 Sardinian
0.4 North_Kannadi
0.4 Sakilli
Target: Ukraine_East
Distance: 1.3747% / 1.37470041
74.0 Latvian
12.2 Erzya
9.2 Sardinian
4.6 Kalash
What about these Masurian averages? I got them from Peterski some time ago iirc. Maybe Lucas can inspect them and add to Vahaduuo if they are quality.
Masurian_K13,31.66,44.71,11.83,4.12,2.82,1.20,0.89 ,0.20,1.14,0.39,0.29,0.17,0.58
Masurian_K15,25.23,16.34,27.09,19.69,7.30,1.66,0.3 1,0.88,0.45,0.07,0.25,0.12,0.17,0.11,0.36
vbnetkhio
08-25-2020, 05:04 PM
Both Ukrainian reference in G25 & Ukrainian references in original GEDmatch spreadsheets for Eurogenes K13/K15 are mostly Western Ukrainians AFAIK.
Davidski told me that "Ukrainian" average in K15/K13 (original spreadsheets from GEDmatch) are based mostly on samples from North-Western Ukraine.
These 28 Kiev Ukrainians are from "Between Baltic and Baikal" study and are probably the most representative. They were not used in Global25.
that explains why so many South Slavs got that average in their oracles. They are the best proxy for proto-Slavs
that explains why so many South Slavs got that average in their oracles. They are the best proxy for proto-Slavs
Northern Ukraine (from Rivne to Chernigov/Sumy) is probably indistinguishable from Southern Belarus (Brest and Gomel).
vbnetkhio
08-25-2020, 05:32 PM
Northern Ukraine (from Rivne to Chernigov/Sumy) is probably indistinguishable from Southern Belarus (Brest and Gomel).
there seems to be an west/east divide.. Western Polesye is more Celto-Germanic. And the Early Slavic samples are aslo like this. But it's a slight difference, and our sample size is very small, it could change with time.
there seems to be an west/east divide.. Western Polesye is more Celto-Germanic. And the Early Slavic samples are aslo like this. But it's a slight difference, and our sample size is very small, it could change with time.
There is practically no Celto-Germanic influence in the East Slavs unless we're talking about recent German in some individuals (from the last 200 years). But even that might be nearly undetectable by Gedmatch (see Not a Cop's results as well as the guy with Swiss ancestry).
there seems to be an west/east divide.. Western Polesye is more Celto-Germanic. And the Early Slavic samples are aslo like this. But it's a slight difference, and our sample size is very small, it could change with time.
That minor Celto-Germanic like substratum in early Slavs could be I2-din carriers assimilating with Baltic like R1a mass and creating proto-Slavs.
Lucas
08-25-2020, 06:34 PM
What about these Masurian averages? I got them from Peterski some time ago iirc. Maybe Lucas can inspect them and add to Vahaduuo if they are quality.
Masurian_K13,31.66,44.71,11.83,4.12,2.82,1.20,0.89 ,0.20,1.14,0.39,0.29,0.17,0.58
Masurian_K15,25.23,16.34,27.09,19.69,7.30,1.66,0.3 1,0.88,0.45,0.07,0.25,0.12,0.17,0.11,0.36
ok added
Peterski
08-30-2020, 05:43 PM
Current Ukrainian samples are too western. You can see in Europe1 PCA or Europe2 PCA, that some Ukrainians plot near East Germans.
For example sample Ukrainian:UKR-1283 plots like Czechs or East Germans.
There is also academic sample from Sumy Oblast (North-East Ukraine near the Russian border) which plots with East Germans / Czechs.
These Ukrainians are likely mixed with minority ethnic groups in Ukraine.
I'm surprised they were published by scientists as "typical Ukrainians".
smd555
09-02-2020, 03:10 PM
Hello everyone! I have a question: did anyone come across autosomal samples from northwestern Ukraine - Zhytomyr, Rivne and Volyn oblast(region)?
PaleoEuropean
09-03-2020, 05:12 AM
Hello everyone! I have a question: did anyone come across autosomal samples from northwestern Ukraine - Zhytomyr, Rivne and Volyn oblast(region)?
dobro pozhalovat, just wanted an excuse to use what little Russian I know (you are Ukranian I know)
smd555
09-03-2020, 11:38 AM
dobro pozhalovat, just wanted an excuse to use what little Russian I know (you are Ukranian I know)
Thanks!
smd555
09-03-2020, 08:33 PM
Also here is for example a Western Ukrainian with GEDCOM pedigree with both parents from Volhynia, I trust this result more than academic samples from Volhynia (from Estonian scientists) which look like they are mixed with Volhynian Poles/Czechs/Germans:
Population
North_Sea 18.69 Pct
Atlantic 15.46 Pct
Baltic 32.29 Pct
Eastern_Euro 19.61 Pct
West_Med 5.95 Pct
West_Asian 4.70 Pct
East_Med 0.28 Pct
Red_Sea 0.27 Pct
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian 1.46 Pct
Amerindian 0.76 Pct
Oceanian 0.52 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -
^^^
This Volhynian Ukrainian from GEDmatch is actually close to academic Polish samples from Lublin Voivodeship:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lublin_Voivodeship
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 32.29
2 Eastern_Euro 19.61
3 North_Sea 18.69
4 Atlantic 15.46
5 West_Med 5.95
6 West_Asian 4.7
7 Siberian 1.46
8 Amerindian 0.76
9 Oceanian 0.52
10 East_Med 0.28
11 Red_Sea 0.27
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Russian_Smolensk 4.18
2 Belorussian 4.42
3 Estonian_Polish 4.55
4 Southwest_Russian 4.58
5 Ukrainian_Belgorod 4.83
6 Polish 5.92
7 Lithuanian 5.96
8 South_Polish 6.29
9 Ukrainian 6.34
10 Ukrainian_Lviv 6.82
11 Estonian 8.58
12 Kargopol_Russian 10.11
13 Erzya 11.44
14 Croatian 11.58
15 Moldavian 13.54
16 East_Finnish 13.67
17 Finnish 14.34
18 Hungarian 14.82
19 Southwest_Finnish 15.46
20 Austrian 16.51
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 71.9% Lithuanian + 28.1% Moldavian @ 2.99
2 68.7% Lithuanian + 31.3% Croatian @ 3.14
3 54.7% Lithuanian + 45.3% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.39
4 52% Lithuanian + 48% South_Polish @ 3.43
5 52.3% Lithuanian + 47.7% Ukrainian @ 3.46
6 68.1% Russian_Smolensk + 31.9% Lithuanian @ 3.52
7 81.9% Lithuanian + 18.1% Romanian @ 3.54
8 67.2% Estonian_Polish + 32.8% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.56
9 83.2% Lithuanian + 16.8% Bulgarian @ 3.61
10 89.3% Lithuanian + 10.7% Nogay @ 3.63
11 69.7% Belorussian + 30.3% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.64
12 80.9% Lithuanian + 19.1% Serbian @ 3.67
13 60.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 39.8% Lithuanian @ 3.72
14 68.4% Belorussian + 31.6% Ukrainian @ 3.73
15 91.8% Lithuanian + 8.2% Sardinian @ 3.73
16 87.7% Lithuanian + 12.3% North_Italian @ 3.74
17 66.7% Estonian_Polish + 33.3% Ukrainian @ 3.78
18 88.4% Lithuanian + 11.6% Tuscan @ 3.8
19 91.1% Lithuanian + 8.9% Balkar @ 3.8
20 94.8% Belorussian + 5.2% Nogay @ 3.84
Do you have another samples from Volhynya? And what are the results of the academic samples?
Ion Basescul
09-05-2020, 01:13 PM
Natives of Odessa
<tbody>
#
Population
Percent
1
Baltic
41.42
2
North_Atlantic
22.96
3
West_Med
11.56
4
East_Med
9.41
5
West_Asian
8.85
6
Red_Sea
2.47
7
Amerindian
1.07
8
East_Asian
0.99
9
Sub-Saharan
0.52
10
Oceanian
0.45
11
Siberian
0.22
12
South_Asian
0.08
</tbody>
Single Population Sharing:
<tbody>
#
Population (source)
Distance
1
Ukrainian_Lviv
5.75
2
Ukrainian
6.66
3
Croatian
6.79
4
Ukrainian_Belgorod
7.76
5
Southwest_Russian
7.8
6
South_Polish
7.97
7
Moldavian
8.03
8
Polish
9.56
9
Russian_Smolensk
9.96
10
Estonian_Polish
10.6
11
Belorussian
11.45
12
Hungarian
12.18
13
Kargopol_Russian
12.77
14
Erzya
13.47
15
Serbian
14.64
16
Lithuanian
15.28
17
East_German
15.73
18
Estonian
16.28
19
Austrian
16.48
20
Finnish
17.35
</tbody>
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
<tbody>
#
Primary Population (source)
Secondary Population (source)
Distance
1
85.5%
Ukrainian_Belgorod
+
14.5%
Algerian_Jewish
@
2.41
2
83.3%
Russian_Smolensk
+
16.7%
Cyprian
@
2.49
3
79%
Ukrainian_Belgorod
+
21%
Greek_Thessaly
@
2.49
4
82.9%
Ukrainian_Belgorod
+
17.1%
East_Sicilian
@
2.51
5
76.1%
Lithuanian
+
23.9%
Cyprian
@
2.57
6
82.4%
Ukrainian_Belgorod
+
17.6%
Central_Greek
@
2.57
7
84.2%
Ukrainian_Belgorod
+
15.8%
South_Italian
@
2.64
8
72.1%
Ukrainian_Belgorod
+
27.9%
Bulgarian
@
2.65
9
85.8%
Ukrainian_Belgorod
+
14.2%
Italian_Jewish
@
2.72
10
83.4%
Ukrainian_Belgorod
+
16.6%
Ashkenazi
@
2.77
11
86.6%
Ukrainian_Belgorod
+
13.4%
Libyan_Jewish
@
2.8
12
83.1%
Ukrainian_Belgorod
+
16.9%
West_Sicilian
@
2.8
13
86.6%
Ukrainian_Belgorod
+
13.4%
Tunisian_Jewish
@
2.81
14
85.8%
Ukrainian_Belgorod
+
14.2%
Sephardic_Jewish
@
2.82
15
69.6%
Lithuanian
+
30.4%
Central_Greek
@
2.88
16
86.9%
Ukrainian_Belgorod
+
13.1%
Cyprian
@
2.88
17
82.6%
Southwest_Russian
+
17.4%
Central_Greek
@
2.92
18
85%
Russian_Smolensk
+
15%
Lebanese_Christian
@
2.93
19
83.1%
Southwest_Russian
+
16.9%
East_Sicilian
@
2.98
20
84.8%
Russian_Smolensk
+
15.2%
Samaritan
@
3.01
</tbody>
Admix Results (sorted):
<tbody>
#
Population
Percent
1
Baltic
47.52
2
North_Atlantic
20.17
3
West_Med
11.13
4
West_Asian
6.51
5
East_Med
6.17
6
Red_Sea
4.57
7
Amerindian
1.77
8
Siberian
1.14
9
Oceanian
1.03
</tbody>
Single Population Sharing:
<tbody>
#
Population (source)
Distance
1
Southwest_Russian
7.06
2
Ukrainian_Belgorod
7.43
3
Russian_Smolensk
8.35
4
Estonian_Polish
8.5
5
Ukrainian_Lviv
8.65
6
Ukrainian
8.82
7
Erzya
9.72
8
Belorussian
9.82
9
Kargopol_Russian
10.08
10
Polish
10.09
11
South_Polish
11.31
12
Lithuanian
11.79
13
Croatian
13.05
14
Estonian
14.33
15
Moldavian
14.51
16
East_Finnish
15.53
17
Finnish
16.36
18
Hungarian
18.35
19
Southwest_Finnish
18.55
20
Tatar
20.64
</tbody>
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
<tbody>
#
Primary Population (source)
Secondary Population (source)
Distance
1
84.9%
Lithuanian
+
15.1%
Samaritan
@
5.8
2
84.3%
Lithuanian
+
15.7%
Bedouin
@
5.85
3
85.2%
Lithuanian
+
14.8%
Lebanese_Christian
@
5.94
4
84.1%
Lithuanian
+
15.9%
Syrian
@
5.98
5
83.9%
Lithuanian
+
16.1%
Cyprian
@
6.01
6
84.6%
Lithuanian
+
15.4%
Jordanian
@
6.15
7
84.3%
Lithuanian
+
15.7%
Lebanese_Muslim
@
6.18
8
95%
Southwest_Russian
+
5%
Saudi
@
6.28
9
84.9%
Lithuanian
+
15.1%
Palestinian
@
6.29
10
85.4%
Lithuanian
+
14.6%
Kurdish_Jewish
@
6.3
11
86.1%
Lithuanian
+
13.9%
Saudi
@
6.33
12
84.9%
Lithuanian
+
15.1%
Georgian_Jewish
@
6.37
13
85.1%
Lithuanian
+
14.9%
Assyrian
@
6.39
14
90.8%
Estonian_Polish
+
9.2%
Bedouin
@
6.41
15
94.9%
Southwest_Russian
+
5.1%
Bedouin
@
6.42
16
94.7%
Southwest_Russian
+
5.3%
Moroccan
@
6.44
17
91%
Estonian_Polish
+
9%
Georgian_Jewish
@
6.45
18
95.8%
Southwest_Russian
+
4.2%
Yemenite_Jewish
@
6.47
19
91.8%
Estonian_Polish
+
8.2%
Saudi
@
6.48
20
85.4%
Lithuanian
+
14.6%
Iranian_Jewish
@
6.51
</tbody>
Ion Basescul
09-05-2020, 01:22 PM
From Kamianets Podilskii (Hmelinitskaya Oblast)
<tbody>
#
Population
Percent
1
Baltic
38.58
2
North_Atlantic
25.33
3
West_Med
13.26
4
East_Med
9.85
5
West_Asian
7.47
6
Siberian
2.37
7
Red_Sea
1.84
8
South_Asian
0.45
9
Amerindian
0.34
10
East_Asian
0.32
11
Sub-Saharan
0.2
</tbody>
Single Population Sharing:
<tbody>
#
Population (source)
Distance
1
Croatian
3.8
2
Moldavian
5.47
3
Ukrainian_Lviv
5.55
4
Ukrainian
6.62
5
South_Polish
7.02
6
Hungarian
8.83
7
Southwest_Russian
9.55
8
Polish
9.99
9
Ukrainian_Belgorod
10.12
10
Russian_Smolensk
11.46
11
Serbian
11.74
12
Estonian_Polish
11.85
13
East_German
12.58
14
Belorussian
12.61
15
Austrian
13.21
16
Kargopol_Russian
13.57
17
Romanian
15.19
18
Erzya
15.19
19
Southwest_Finnish
16.33
20
Estonian
16.69
</tbody>
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
<tbody>
#
Primary Population (source)
Secondary Population (source)
Distance
1
88%
Ukrainian
+
12%
Cyprian
@
1.67
2
89.1%
Ukrainian
+
10.9%
Samaritan
@
1.73
3
86.8%
Ukrainian
+
13.2%
Sephardic_Jewish
@
1.79
4
89.3%
Ukrainian
+
10.7%
Lebanese_Christian
@
1.8
5
87.6%
Ukrainian
+
12.4%
Tunisian_Jewish
@
1.8
6
84.5%
Ukrainian
+
15.5%
Ashkenazi
@
1.85
7
84.2%
Ukrainian
+
15.8%
East_Sicilian
@
1.85
8
86.8%
Ukrainian
+
13.2%
Algerian_Jewish
@
1.87
9
59.1%
Estonian_Polish
+
40.9%
Bulgarian
@
1.87
10
56.3%
Estonian_Polish
+
43.7%
Romanian
@
1.9
11
83.7%
Ukrainian
+
16.3%
Central_Greek
@
1.9
12
87.7%
Ukrainian
+
12.3%
Libyan_Jewish
@
1.92
13
76.2%
Southwest_Russian
+
23.8%
Tuscan
@
1.93
14
88.4%
Ukrainian
+
11.6%
Lebanese_Muslim
@
1.98
15
85.4%
Ukrainian
+
14.6%
South_Italian
@
1.99
16
86.9%
Ukrainian
+
13.1%
Italian_Jewish
@
1.99
17
71%
Moldavian
+
29%
Belorussian
@
1.99
18
69.6%
Moldavian
+
30.4%
Estonian_Polish
@
2
19
80.3%
Ukrainian
+
19.7%
Greek_Thessaly
@
2.03
20
88.5%
Ukrainian
+
11.5%
Syrian
@
2.03
</tbody>
Red_Sea 4.57
This is crazy. And I thought it was crazy enough in Romania.
Aspirin
09-05-2020, 01:26 PM
This is crazy. And I thought it was crazy enough in Romania.
Maybe from Jews, who were many in Odessa.
Maybe from Jews, who were many in Odessa.
The rest of the components do not indicate that. I for one also score 2+ RS on K13 but the rest of my components (Baltic, N Atl, East Med, West Med) are not aligned with a hypothetical Jewish input, nor do I get any Jewish matches which I would get even if I was 1/4 Jewish or less.
Ion Basescul
09-05-2020, 01:42 PM
Maybe from Jews, who were many in Odessa.
Probably not, judging by the DNA relatives. This person btw is the mother of the one from above her.
Aspirin
09-05-2020, 02:47 PM
Probably not, judging by the DNA relatives. This person btw is the mother of the one from above her.
How about Moldova? Some individuals score similar amount of Red Sea like this person.
Ion Basescul
09-05-2020, 03:09 PM
How about Moldova? Some individuals score similar amount of Red Sea like this person.
I check everyone's relatives prior to posting. I think when Jews are not involved it simply indicated an overflow from East Med to Red Sea. The tool is not perfect after all.
Slavic Italian
09-05-2020, 04:25 PM
I check everyone's relatives prior to posting. I think when Jews are not involved it simply indicated an overflow from East Med to Red Sea. The tool is not perfect after all.
None of them are.
smd555
09-06-2020, 01:36 PM
From Kamianets Podilskii (Hmelinitskaya Oblast)
<tbody>
#
Population
Percent
1
Baltic
38.58
2
North_Atlantic
25.33
3
West_Med
13.26
4
East_Med
9.85
5
West_Asian
7.47
6
Siberian
2.37
7
Red_Sea
1.84
8
South_Asian
0.45
9
Amerindian
0.34
10
East_Asian
0.32
11
Sub-Saharan
0.2
</tbody>
Single Population Sharing:
<tbody>
#
Population (source)
Distance
1
Croatian
3.8
2
Moldavian
5.47
3
Ukrainian_Lviv
5.55
4
Ukrainian
6.62
5
South_Polish
7.02
6
Hungarian
8.83
7
Southwest_Russian
9.55
8
Polish
9.99
9
Ukrainian_Belgorod
10.12
10
Russian_Smolensk
11.46
11
Serbian
11.74
12
Estonian_Polish
11.85
13
East_German
12.58
14
Belorussian
12.61
15
Austrian
13.21
16
Kargopol_Russian
13.57
17
Romanian
15.19
18
Erzya
15.19
19
Southwest_Finnish
16.33
20
Estonian
16.69
</tbody>
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
<tbody>
#
Primary Population (source)
Secondary Population (source)
Distance
1
88%
Ukrainian
+
12%
Cyprian
@
1.67
2
89.1%
Ukrainian
+
10.9%
Samaritan
@
1.73
3
86.8%
Ukrainian
+
13.2%
Sephardic_Jewish
@
1.79
4
89.3%
Ukrainian
+
10.7%
Lebanese_Christian
@
1.8
5
87.6%
Ukrainian
+
12.4%
Tunisian_Jewish
@
1.8
6
84.5%
Ukrainian
+
15.5%
Ashkenazi
@
1.85
7
84.2%
Ukrainian
+
15.8%
East_Sicilian
@
1.85
8
86.8%
Ukrainian
+
13.2%
Algerian_Jewish
@
1.87
9
59.1%
Estonian_Polish
+
40.9%
Bulgarian
@
1.87
10
56.3%
Estonian_Polish
+
43.7%
Romanian
@
1.9
11
83.7%
Ukrainian
+
16.3%
Central_Greek
@
1.9
12
87.7%
Ukrainian
+
12.3%
Libyan_Jewish
@
1.92
13
76.2%
Southwest_Russian
+
23.8%
Tuscan
@
1.93
14
88.4%
Ukrainian
+
11.6%
Lebanese_Muslim
@
1.98
15
85.4%
Ukrainian
+
14.6%
South_Italian
@
1.99
16
86.9%
Ukrainian
+
13.1%
Italian_Jewish
@
1.99
17
71%
Moldavian
+
29%
Belorussian
@
1.99
18
69.6%
Moldavian
+
30.4%
Estonian_Polish
@
2
19
80.3%
Ukrainian
+
19.7%
Greek_Thessaly
@
2.03
20
88.5%
Ukrainian
+
11.5%
Syrian
@
2.03
</tbody>
Did you see another samples from Hmelnitskaya Oblast?
Did you see another samples from Hmelnitskaya Oblast?
It looks like Rusyn result.
Karol Klačansky
09-06-2020, 01:47 PM
Current Ukrainian samples are too western. You can see in Europe1 PCA or Europe2 PCA, that some Ukrainians plot near East Germans.
For example sample Ukrainian:UKR-1283 plots like Czechs or East Germans.
There is also academic sample from Sumy Oblast (North-East Ukraine near the Russian border) which plots with East Germans / Czechs.
These Ukrainians are likely mixed with minority ethnic groups in Ukraine.
I'm surprised they were published by scientists as "typical Ukrainians".
Do you know their family Peterski? its never good to just assume things. Even among natives you will find extremes in both directions occasionally.
Ion Basescul
09-06-2020, 02:37 PM
Did you see another samples from Hmelnitskaya Oblast?
I usually don't save the samples from other countries than Moldova and Romania. I think I saw one more, but I don't recall the results.
Aspirin
09-06-2020, 03:25 PM
It looks like Rusyn result.
Just similar results, this person is just random Ukrainian, he is from Podolia not Galicia, a region who is bordering northern Moldavian historical border, maybe he have some distant ancestors from Moldova.
https://4.404content.com/resize/730x-/1/43/6A/1470991919236252939/fullsize.png
Kamianets Podilskyi is located near historical Moldavian border close to Hotin (25km).
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/86/UKR_Kamianets-Podilskyi_map.svg/1280px-UKR_Kamianets-Podilskyi_map.svg.png
smd555
09-06-2020, 03:48 PM
It looks like Rusyn result.
This academic sample from Chernivtsi looks similar:
Kit LW5549306
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 35.22
2 North_Atlantic 24.02
3 West_Med 14.87
4 East_Med 10.7
5 West_Asian 8.42
6 Siberian 1.97
7 Red_Sea 1.63
8 Amerindian 1.29
9 Northeast_African 1.01
10 Oceanian 0.83
11 Sub-Saharan 0.03
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 2.69
2 Croatian 3.82
3 Hungarian 8.4
4 Ukrainian_Lviv 8.69
5 Serbian 9.01
6 Ukrainian 9.99
7 South_Polish 10.27
8 Romanian 11.99
9 East_German 12.89
10 Austrian 12.9
11 Southwest_Russian 13.07
12 Polish 13.29
13 Ukrainian_Belgorod 13.49
14 Bulgarian 13.69
15 Russian_Smolensk 15.03
16 Estonian_Polish 15.48
17 Belorussian 16.3
18 Kargopol_Russian 16.73
19 Erzya 18.19
20 Tatar 18.48
Kamianets Podilskii district boarders with Chernivtsi oblast. His ancestors can be from Chernivtsi or Kamianets Podilskii population can be close genetically to Chernivtsi. But, as for me, almost of Hmelnytsky oblast anthropologically looks more "northern", thats why it could be closer to Poles or Belarussians by autosomes. Its better to have several results from other places of Hmelnytsky oblast.
smd555
09-06-2020, 03:49 PM
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smd555
09-06-2020, 03:55 PM
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smd555
09-06-2020, 04:02 PM
I usually don't save the samples from other countries than Moldova and Romania. I think I saw one more, but I don't recall the results.
Please, if you come across some ukrainian results (not only from that region), post in this thread.
smd555
09-06-2020, 04:03 PM
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smd555
09-06-2020, 04:09 PM
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smd555
09-06-2020, 04:10 PM
Do you know their family Peterski? its never good to just assume things. Even among natives you will find extremes in both directions occasionally.
Volhynian Ukrainians anthropologically are not close to Poles. I am searching for their autosomal samples.
Please, if you come across some ukrainian results (not only from that region), post in this thread.
In case you're interested you can take a look at my threads, I posted many Russians/East Slavs but I discourage you from bumping those threads. You can address me in a private message if you have a specific question or want to interpret East Slavic results.
There was a thread about East Slavic Gedmatch in general.
Lemgrant
09-06-2020, 05:04 PM
Please, if you come across some ukrainian results (not only from that region), post in this thread.
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?300180-Ukrainians-GEDmatch/page8
Ion Basescul
09-06-2020, 05:37 PM
Please, if you come across some ukrainian results (not only from that region), post in this thread.
Sure, here is one from Bahmut, Donetsk oblast. Kind of shows how trash the current averages for Ukraine are. Probably only the Western region is sampled adequately, because right now the results from below don't look Central to East Ukrainian at all.
FTDNA FF:
European 96%
- East Europe 74%
- Southeast Europe 12%
- Scandinavia 10%
East Asian 3%
- Northeast Asia 3%
Trace Results
- Siberia <1%
Gedmatch:
Eurogenes K13
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 39.68
2 North_Atlantic 20.87
3 West_Med 14.42
4 West_Asian 11.79
5 East_Med 5.98
6 Siberian 3.42
7 East_Asian 1.79
8 Red_Sea 1.47
9 Amerindian 0.57
Source (http://forum.genoua.name/viewtopic.php?pid=231259#p231259)
Sure, here is one from Bahmut, Donetsk oblast. Kind of shows how trash the current averages for Ukraine are. Probably only the Western region is sampled adequately, because right now the results from below don't look Central to East Ukrainian at all.
FTDNA FF:
European 96%
- East Europe 74%
- Southeast Europe 12%
- Scandinavia 10%
East Asian 3%
- Northeast Asia 3%
Trace Results
- Siberia <1%
Gedmatch:
Eurogenes K13
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 39.68
2 North_Atlantic 20.87
3 West_Med 14.42
4 West_Asian 11.79
5 East_Med 5.98
6 Siberian 3.42
7 East_Asian 1.79
8 Red_Sea 1.47
9 Amerindian 0.57
Source (http://forum.genoua.name/viewtopic.php?pid=231259#p231259)
These are fairly atypical results. The unspecified Ukrainian average from K13 is based on Volhynia if I'm not mistaken. "Ukrainian_Belgorod" is almost identical to "Southwest_Russian".
Ion Basescul
09-06-2020, 06:21 PM
Some mostly Eastern to Central Ukrainian results (going by the surname). If someone wants to work with the kits' manager to identify their exact origins, PM me for the email.
1)# Population Percent
1 Baltic 48.56
2 North_Atlantic 26.21
3 West_Med 12.5
4 West_Asian 4.67
5 East_Med 3.31
6 South_Asian 1.46
7 Red_Sea 1.08
8 Amerindian 0.97
9 Siberian 0.96
10 Northeast_African 0.28
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Estonian_Polish 3.92
2 Russian_Smolensk 4.08
3 Polish 5.09
4 Southwest_Russian 5.32
5 Ukrainian 5.42
6 Belorussian 5.64
7 Ukrainian_Belgorod 6.04
8 Ukrainian_Lviv 6.76
9 Lithuanian 7.36
10 South_Polish 7.81
11 Kargopol_Russian 7.85
12 Estonian 9.06
13 Erzya 10.05
14 East_Finnish 12.05
15 Finnish 12.1
16 Croatian 12.74
17 Southwest_Finnish 13.61
18 Moldavian 15.55
19 Hungarian 17.11
20 East_German 17.8
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 89.1% Lithuanian + 10.9% Sardinian @ 2.2
2 96% Estonian_Polish + 4% Sardinian @ 3.13
3 60.2% Ukrainian + 39.8% Lithuanian @ 3.16
4 69.8% Lithuanian + 30.2% Moldavian @ 3.31
5 52.8% Ukrainian_Lviv + 47.2% Lithuanian @ 3.36
6 67.9% Estonian_Polish + 32.1% Ukrainian @ 3.36
7 96.2% Russian_Smolensk + 3.8% Sardinian @ 3.38
8 65.3% Lithuanian + 34.7% Croatian @ 3.4
9 76% Estonian_Polish + 24% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.46
10 90.2% Estonian_Polish + 9.8% Moldavian @ 3.56
11 88.4% Estonian_Polish + 11.6% Croatian @ 3.57
12 84.9% Lithuanian + 15.1% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.59
13 96.4% Estonian_Polish + 3.6% Southwest_French @ 3.64
14 81% Lithuanian + 19% Bulgarian @ 3.65
15 68.9% Russian_Smolensk + 31.1% Ukrainian @ 3.66
16 97.4% Estonian_Polish + 2.6% French_Basque @ 3.69
17 96.7% Estonian_Polish + 3.3% Spanish_Cantabria @ 3.69
18 95.4% Estonian_Polish + 4.6% Bulgarian @ 3.69
19 96.6% Estonian_Polish + 3.4% North_Italian @ 3.69
20 97% Estonian_Polish + 3% Spanish_Andalucia @ 3.7
2)
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 43.2
2 North_Atlantic 29.05
3 West_Med 12.41
4 West_Asian 5.55
5 East_Med 4.75
6 South_Asian 2.1
7 Siberian 1.59
8 Amerindian 0.65
9 East_Asian 0.47
10 Northeast_African 0.23
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Ukrainian 1.88
2 South_Polish 2.98
3 Ukrainian_Lviv 3.21
4 Polish 3.76
5 Russian_Smolensk 6.16
6 Southwest_Russian 6.24
7 Estonian_Polish 6.55
8 Ukrainian_Belgorod 6.93
9 Belorussian 7.4
10 Croatian 8.42
11 Kargopol_Russian 9.49
12 Estonian 10.31
13 Lithuanian 11.13
14 Southwest_Finnish 11.13
15 Moldavian 11.61
16 Finnish 11.7
17 Hungarian 11.83
18 East_German 12.51
19 Erzya 12.61
20 East_Finnish 12.83
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 93% Ukrainian + 7% North_Swedish @ 1.43
2 94.5% Ukrainian + 5.5% Swedish @ 1.46
3 95.9% Ukrainian + 4.1% West_Scottish @ 1.47
4 95.3% Ukrainian + 4.7% Norwegian @ 1.47
5 90.5% Ukrainian + 9.5% Southwest_Finnish @ 1.48
6 95.7% Ukrainian + 4.3% Orcadian @ 1.48
7 95.8% Ukrainian + 4.2% Irish @ 1.48
8 95.4% Ukrainian + 4.6% Danish @ 1.49
9 96% Ukrainian + 4% Southwest_English @ 1.49
10 95.6% Ukrainian + 4.4% North_Dutch @ 1.51
11 95.9% Ukrainian + 4.1% Southeast_English @ 1.53
12 95.2% Ukrainian + 4.8% North_German @ 1.55
13 97.8% Ukrainian + 2.2% French_Basque @ 1.59
14 92.7% Ukrainian + 7.3% East_German @ 1.6
15 96.2% Ukrainian + 3.8% South_Dutch @ 1.63
16 96.5% Ukrainian + 3.5% West_German @ 1.69
17 97.7% Ukrainian + 2.3% Southwest_French @ 1.7
18 75.7% Ukrainian + 24.3% South_Polish @ 1.7
19 97.3% Ukrainian + 2.7% French @ 1.72
20 95% Ukrainian + 5% Austrian @ 1.72
3)
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 44.03
2 North_Atlantic 27.19
3 West_Med 11.89
4 East_Med 8.85
5 West_Asian 3.74
6 Red_Sea 1.3
7 East_Asian 1.18
8 South_Asian 0.92
9 Oceanian 0.36
10 Amerindian 0.28
11 Siberian 0.27
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Ukrainian 3.86
2 Ukrainian_Lviv 4.92
3 South_Polish 5.07
4 Polish 5.87
5 Southwest_Russian 6.12
6 Estonian_Polish 6.77
7 Russian_Smolensk 6.9
8 Ukrainian_Belgorod 7.18
9 Belorussian 7.38
10 Croatian 8.35
11 Kargopol_Russian 11.25
12 Moldavian 11.43
13 Lithuanian 11.78
14 Estonian 12.1
15 Hungarian 12.4
16 Erzya 13.37
17 Southwest_Finnish 13.62
18 Finnish 13.64
19 East_German 14.27
20 East_Finnish 14.48
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 86% Estonian_Polish + 14% West_Sicilian @ 2.49
2 84.8% Estonian_Polish + 15.2% Tuscan @ 2.5
3 88.2% Estonian_Polish + 11.8% Italian_Jewish @ 2.57
4 83.2% Estonian_Polish + 16.8% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.59
5 77.1% Lithuanian + 22.9% West_Sicilian @ 2.61
6 88.6% Belorussian + 11.4% Sardinian @ 2.62
7 88.3% Estonian_Polish + 11.7% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.64
8 78.3% Estonian_Polish + 21.7% Bulgarian @ 2.69
9 87.3% Estonian_Polish + 12.7% South_Italian @ 2.73
10 86.5% Estonian_Polish + 13.5% Ashkenazi @ 2.73
11 81.9% Belorussian + 18.1% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.73
12 75.3% Lithuanian + 24.7% Tuscan @ 2.75
13 73.1% Estonian_Polish + 26.9% Serbian @ 2.76
14 86.4% Estonian_Polish + 13.6% East_Sicilian @ 2.79
15 84.1% Estonian_Polish + 15.9% North_Italian @ 2.8
16 86.1% Estonian_Polish + 13.9% Central_Greek @ 2.8
17 77% Estonian_Polish + 23% Romanian @ 2.82
18 80.4% Lithuanian + 19.6% Italian_Jewish @ 2.82
19 76.7% Belorussian + 23.3% Bulgarian @ 2.84
20 85% Belorussian + 15% West_Sicilian @ 2.85
4)
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 43.46
2 North_Atlantic 26.49
3 West_Med 12.06
4 East_Med 8.21
5 West_Asian 5.44
6 Oceanian 1.57
7 East_Asian 1.26
8 Amerindian 0.68
9 Red_Sea 0.44
10 South_Asian 0.4
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Ukrainian 3.42
2 Ukrainian_Lviv 4.11
3 South_Polish 4.97
4 Southwest_Russian 5.99
5 Polish 6.1
6 Ukrainian_Belgorod 6.69
7 Russian_Smolensk 7.17
8 Estonian_Polish 7.43
9 Croatian 7.63
10 Belorussian 8.16
11 Moldavian 10.47
12 Kargopol_Russian 11.26
13 Hungarian 12.14
14 Lithuanian 12.22
15 Estonian 12.65
16 Erzya 13.19
17 Finnish 14.18
18 East_German 14.24
19 Southwest_Finnish 14.27
20 East_Finnish 15.07
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 64.6% Lithuanian + 35.4% Bulgarian @ 2.62
2 71.9% Lithuanian + 28.1% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.78
3 76% Estonian_Polish + 24% Bulgarian @ 2.82
4 76.3% Lithuanian + 23.7% West_Sicilian @ 2.82
5 97.2% Ukrainian + 2.8% Yemenite_Jewish @ 2.87
6 62.8% Lithuanian + 37.2% Romanian @ 2.95
7 98.7% Ukrainian + 1.3% Papuan @ 2.95
8 97.1% Ukrainian + 2.9% Lebanese_Christian @ 2.95
9 97% Ukrainian + 3% Lebanese_Druze @ 2.95
10 97.1% Ukrainian + 2.9% Samaritan @ 2.95
11 98.3% Ukrainian + 1.7% NAN_Melanesian @ 2.96
12 50.8% Estonian_Polish + 49.2% Croatian @ 2.98
13 97.1% Ukrainian + 2.9% Palestinian @ 2.99
14 95.9% Ukrainian + 4.1% Ashkenazi @ 2.99
15 78% Lithuanian + 22% South_Italian @ 2.99
16 97.4% Ukrainian + 2.6% Saudi @ 3
17 96.9% Ukrainian + 3.1% Cyprian @ 3
18 97.2% Ukrainian + 2.8% Egyptian @ 3.01
19 96.6% Ukrainian + 3.4% Italian_Jewish @ 3.01
20 91.1% Southwest_Russian + 8.9% Sardinian @ 3.01
Ion Basescul
09-06-2020, 06:33 PM
5)
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 44.83
2 North_Atlantic 30.96
3 West_Med 7.79
4 West_Asian 6.56
5 East_Med 6.5
6 South_Asian 1.91
7 Amerindian 1
8 Sub-Saharan 0.32
9 Siberian 0.12
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Polish 3.9
2 South_Polish 4.25
3 Russian_Smolensk 5.17
4 Ukrainian 5.27
5 Southwest_Russian 5.43
6 Belorussian 5.53
7 Ukrainian_Belgorod 5.63
8 Estonian_Polish 5.87
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 6.18
10 Estonian 9.03
11 Lithuanian 9.66
12 Kargopol_Russian 10.14
13 Southwest_Finnish 10.31
14 Finnish 10.43
15 Croatian 10.88
16 East_Finnish 12.28
17 Erzya 12.82
18 Hungarian 13.05
19 East_German 13.97
20 Moldavian 14.06
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 83% Southwest_Russian + 17% Danish @ 2.59
2 82.8% Southwest_Russian + 17.2% Norwegian @ 2.61
3 80.8% Southwest_Russian + 19.2% Swedish @ 2.64
4 57.9% Lithuanian + 42.1% Hungarian @ 2.69
5 82.4% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 17.6% Danish @ 2.69
6 83.4% Southwest_Russian + 16.6% North_Dutch @ 2.7
7 81.7% Southwest_Russian + 18.3% North_German @ 2.7
8 82.3% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 17.7% Norwegian @ 2.73
9 80.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 19.8% Swedish @ 2.73
10 75.6% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 24.4% North_Swedish @ 2.8
11 85.1% Southwest_Russian + 14.9% Irish @ 2.81
12 82.9% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 17.1% North_Dutch @ 2.81
13 85.6% Southwest_Russian + 14.4% West_Scottish @ 2.82
14 84.3% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 15.7% Southeast_English @ 2.85
15 60.2% South_Polish + 39.8% Belorussian @ 2.88
16 73% Belorussian + 27% Hungarian @ 2.89
17 81.3% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 18.7% North_German @ 2.9
18 84.9% Southwest_Russian + 15.1% Orcadian @ 2.9
19 84.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 15.8% Orcadian @ 2.9
20 85.1% Southwest_Russian + 14.9% Southeast_English @ 2.91
6)
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 43.64
2 North_Atlantic 26.4
3 West_Med 10.08
4 East_Med 6.87
5 West_Asian 6.52
6 South_Asian 2.33
7 Siberian 2
8 Amerindian 0.94
9 Red_Sea 0.81
10 Oceanian 0.4
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Ukrainian 2.93
2 Ukrainian_Lviv 3.29
3 Southwest_Russian 3.86
4 South_Polish 4.56
5 Ukrainian_Belgorod 4.8
6 Polish 5.31
7 Russian_Smolensk 5.69
8 Estonian_Polish 6.1
9 Belorussian 6.98
10 Kargopol_Russian 8.44
11 Croatian 8.52
12 Erzya 10.61
13 Moldavian 11.03
14 Lithuanian 11.07
15 Estonian 11.17
16 Finnish 12.32
17 Hungarian 12.51
18 East_Finnish 12.8
19 Southwest_Finnish 12.94
20 East_German 14.64
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 91% Southwest_Russian + 9% Spanish_Extremadura @ 1.45
2 90.5% Southwest_Russian + 9.5% Spanish_Galicia @ 1.45
3 91.4% Southwest_Russian + 8.6% Spanish_Andalucia @ 1.45
4 90.4% Southwest_Russian + 9.6% North_Italian @ 1.45
5 70.2% Southwest_Russian + 29.8% Croatian @ 1.49
6 91.1% Southwest_Russian + 8.9% Spanish_Valencia @ 1.51
7 90.6% Southwest_Russian + 9.4% Portuguese @ 1.52
8 91.4% Southwest_Russian + 8.6% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 1.53
9 91.2% Southwest_Russian + 8.8% Spanish_Murcia @ 1.55
10 90.8% Southwest_Russian + 9.2% Spanish_Cataluna @ 1.59
11 91.9% Southwest_Russian + 8.1% Spanish_Aragon @ 1.6
12 91.2% Southwest_Russian + 8.8% Spanish_Cantabria @ 1.61
13 91% Southwest_Russian + 9% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 1.62
14 65% Estonian_Polish + 35% Moldavian @ 1.65
15 91.1% Southwest_Russian + 8.9% Southwest_French @ 1.68
16 91.2% Southwest_Russian + 8.8% Tuscan @ 1.72
17 75.9% Southwest_Russian + 24.1% Moldavian @ 1.73
18 89.2% Estonian_Polish + 10.8% Turkish @ 1.74
19 78.3% Southwest_Russian + 21.7% Hungarian @ 1.77
20 55.3% Ukrainian_Lviv + 44.7% Southwest_Russian @ 1.78
7) This one should be from Galicia, Western Ukraine, according to the surname
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 46.76
2 North_Atlantic 23.26
3 West_Med 13.26
4 West_Asian 6.19
5 East_Med 6.02
6 Amerindian 2.19
7 East_Asian 0.98
8 Northeast_African 0.6
9 South_Asian 0.54
10 Siberian 0.19
11 Oceanian 0.01
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Ukrainian 5.43
2 Southwest_Russian 5.87
3 Ukrainian_Belgorod 6.26
4 Ukrainian_Lviv 6.53
5 Russian_Smolensk 7.04
6 Estonian_Polish 7.1
7 Polish 7.46
8 South_Polish 8.39
9 Belorussian 8.62
10 Kargopol_Russian 9.73
11 Erzya 10.77
12 Lithuanian 10.87
13 Croatian 10.88
14 Estonian 12.76
15 Moldavian 13.1
16 East_Finnish 15.18
17 Finnish 15.22
18 Hungarian 16.12
19 Southwest_Finnish 16.49
20 East_German 18.01
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 94% Southwest_Russian + 6% Sardinian @ 4.7
2 93% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 7% Sardinian @ 4.74
3 80.5% Ukrainian + 19.5% Erzya @ 4.91
4 71.3% Lithuanian + 28.7% Bulgarian @ 4.95
5 55.6% Lithuanian + 44.4% Moldavian @ 5
6 59.3% Ukrainian + 40.7% Southwest_Russian @ 5
7 77.3% Lithuanian + 22.7% Greek_Thessaly @ 5.01
8 64.4% Ukrainian + 35.6% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 5.01
9 80.6% Lithuanian + 19.4% Central_Greek @ 5.1
10 82.2% Lithuanian + 17.8% South_Italian @ 5.18
11 96.5% Ukrainian + 3.5% MA-1 @ 5.2
12 86.4% Ukrainian + 13.6% Lithuanian @ 5.21
13 76.8% Ukrainian + 23.2% Estonian_Polish @ 5.23
14 81.1% Lithuanian + 18.9% East_Sicilian @ 5.24
15 84.9% Lithuanian + 15.1% Cyprian @ 5.25
16 71.6% Estonian_Polish + 28.4% Moldavian @ 5.25
17 99% Ukrainian + 1% Karitiana @ 5.27
18 98.9% Ukrainian + 1.1% Mayan @ 5.29
19 98.9% Ukrainian + 1.1% Pima @ 5.29
20 79.9% Ukrainian + 20.1% Russian_Smolensk @ 5.3
8)
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 48.4
2 North_Atlantic 25.16
3 West_Med 10.46
4 East_Med 6.72
5 West_Asian 5.76
6 Siberian 1.59
7 Northeast_African 1.06
8 Red_Sea 0.31
9 Sub-Saharan 0.21
10 Oceanian 0.2
11 South_Asian 0.13
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Southwest_Russian 3.05
2 Ukrainian_Belgorod 4.2
3 Estonian_Polish 4.27
4 Russian_Smolensk 4.51
5 Belorussian 5.33
6 Ukrainian 5.47
7 Polish 6.21
8 Ukrainian_Lviv 6.9
9 South_Polish 7.6
10 Kargopol_Russian 7.94
11 Lithuanian 8.31
12 Erzya 9.09
13 Estonian 10.22
14 Croatian 12.21
15 East_Finnish 12.36
16 Finnish 12.48
17 Southwest_Finnish 14.48
18 Moldavian 14.71
19 Hungarian 16.62
20 East_German 18.35
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 87.6% Lithuanian + 12.4% Cyprian @ 2.88
2 98.5% Southwest_Russian + 1.5% Sardinian @ 2.92
3 78.3% Southwest_Russian + 21.7% Estonian_Polish @ 2.93
4 88.6% Southwest_Russian + 11.4% Ukrainian @ 2.99
5 94.3% Southwest_Russian + 5.7% Lithuanian @ 3.02
6 92.4% Southwest_Russian + 7.6% Belorussian @ 3.03
7 99.4% Southwest_Russian + 0.6% Moroccan @ 3.03
8 90.8% Southwest_Russian + 9.2% Russian_Smolensk @ 3.03
9 99.6% Southwest_Russian + 0.4% Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator @ 3.03
10 99.7% Southwest_Russian + 0.3% Ethiopian_Gumuz @ 3.03
11 99.5% Southwest_Russian + 0.5% Mozabite_Berber @ 3.04
12 99.7% Southwest_Russian + 0.3% Ethiopian_Wolayta @ 3.04
13 99.7% Southwest_Russian + 0.3% Ethiopian_Anuak @ 3.04
14 99.6% Southwest_Russian + 0.4% Tunisian @ 3.04
15 99.7% Southwest_Russian + 0.3% Ethiopian_Oromo @ 3.04
16 99.6% Southwest_Russian + 0.4% Algerian @ 3.04
17 99.7% Southwest_Russian + 0.3% Somali @ 3.04
18 96% Southwest_Russian + 4% Polish @ 3.04
19 99.8% Southwest_Russian + 0.2% Hadza @ 3.04
20 99.8% Southwest_Russian + 0.2% Sudanese @ 3.04
Ion Basescul
09-06-2020, 06:42 PM
9) Surname seems to be mostly concentrated at the crossroads of Vinnytsia, Cherkasy and Kiev oblasts
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 43.77
2 North_Atlantic 27.09
3 West_Med 12.48
4 East_Med 6.62
5 West_Asian 6.56
6 South_Asian 1.5
7 Red_Sea 0.74
8 Oceanian 0.66
9 Amerindian 0.38
10 East_Asian 0.2
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Ukrainian 2.2
2 Ukrainian_Lviv 2.83
3 South_Polish 3.94
4 Polish 4.76
5 Southwest_Russian 5.53
6 Ukrainian_Belgorod 5.92
7 Russian_Smolensk 6.12
8 Estonian_Polish 6.75
9 Croatian 7.62
10 Belorussian 7.64
11 Kargopol_Russian 10.55
12 Moldavian 10.64
13 Lithuanian 11.47
14 Estonian 11.95
15 Hungarian 12.16
16 Erzya 12.72
17 Southwest_Finnish 13.66
18 East_German 13.73
19 Finnish 13.75
20 East_Finnish 14.64
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 60.4% Croatian + 39.6% Lithuanian @ 1.59
2 55.9% Russian_Smolensk + 44.1% Croatian @ 1.83
3 51.9% Moldavian + 48.1% Lithuanian @ 1.93
4 53.3% Estonian_Polish + 46.7% Croatian @ 1.93
5 98.6% Ukrainian + 1.4% Samaritan @ 2.03
6 90.3% Russian_Smolensk + 9.7% Sardinian @ 2.03
7 98.6% Ukrainian + 1.4% Lebanese_Christian @ 2.03
8 98.5% Ukrainian + 1.5% Cyprian @ 2.04
9 98.6% Ukrainian + 1.4% Iranian_Jewish @ 2.04
10 98.6% Ukrainian + 1.4% Kurdish_Jewish @ 2.04
11 98.8% Ukrainian + 1.2% Saudi @ 2.05
12 98.8% Ukrainian + 1.2% Yemenite_Jewish @ 2.05
13 98.6% Ukrainian + 1.4% Georgian_Jewish @ 2.05
14 98.5% Ukrainian + 1.5% Lebanese_Muslim @ 2.05
15 98.6% Ukrainian + 1.4% Assyrian @ 2.05
16 98.6% Ukrainian + 1.4% Syrian @ 2.05
17 98.6% Ukrainian + 1.4% Lebanese_Druze @ 2.05
18 98.7% Ukrainian + 1.3% Palestinian @ 2.06
19 98.6% Ukrainian + 1.4% Bedouin @ 2.06
20 98.7% Ukrainian + 1.3% Jordanian @ 2.06
10)
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 43.25
2 North_Atlantic 28.9
3 West_Asian 8.8
4 West_Med 8.42
5 East_Med 6.51
6 Siberian 1.75
7 Northeast_African 0.96
8 Oceanian 0.63
9 South_Asian 0.34
10 Amerindian 0.2
11 Red_Sea 0.14
12 Sub-Saharan 0.11
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 South_Polish 3.92
2 Ukrainian 4.53
3 Ukrainian_Lviv 4.66
4 Southwest_Russian 4.9
5 Ukrainian_Belgorod 4.9
6 Polish 5.26
7 Russian_Smolensk 6.22
8 Estonian_Polish 7.19
9 Belorussian 7.27
10 Croatian 9.2
11 Kargopol_Russian 9.59
12 Estonian 10.88
13 Lithuanian 11.38
14 Finnish 11.49
15 Erzya 11.77
16 Southwest_Finnish 11.77
17 Moldavian 11.83
18 Hungarian 11.98
19 East_Finnish 12.86
20 East_German 13.82
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 83.5% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 16.5% West_German @ 1.85
2 84.3% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 15.7% South_Dutch @ 1.98
3 77.3% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 22.7% Austrian @ 2.09
4 85.7% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 14.3% Southeast_English @ 2.13
5 83% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 17% North_German @ 2.18
6 72.9% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 27.1% Hungarian @ 2.2
7 86.5% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 13.5% French @ 2.23
8 86.7% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 13.3% Southwest_English @ 2.25
9 75.8% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 24.2% East_German @ 2.27
10 85.8% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 14.2% Orcadian @ 2.28
11 84.2% Southwest_Russian + 15.8% West_German @ 2.3
12 84.9% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 15.1% North_Dutch @ 2.3
13 84.6% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 15.4% Danish @ 2.31
14 83.2% Southwest_Russian + 16.8% North_German @ 2.33
15 86.7% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 13.3% West_Scottish @ 2.36
16 86.4% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 13.6% Irish @ 2.39
17 78% Southwest_Russian + 22% Austrian @ 2.44
18 85% Southwest_Russian + 15% South_Dutch @ 2.45
19 58.2% South_Polish + 41.8% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.49
20 85.3% Southwest_Russian + 14.7% North_Dutch @ 2.53
11) Mostly concentrated in Poltava oblast
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 43.92
2 North_Atlantic 27.39
3 West_Med 12.22
4 East_Med 8.24
5 West_Asian 4.61
6 Amerindian 1.37
7 Northeast_African 0.82
8 East_Asian 0.54
9 South_Asian 0.47
10 Oceanian 0.35
11 Red_Sea 0.06
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Ukrainian 3.2
2 Ukrainian_Lviv 4.56
3 South_Polish 4.68
4 Polish 5.39
5 Southwest_Russian 5.97
6 Estonian_Polish 6.87
7 Russian_Smolensk 6.9
8 Ukrainian_Belgorod 6.91
9 Belorussian 7.64
10 Croatian 8.03
11 Kargopol_Russian 11.07
12 Moldavian 11.21
13 Lithuanian 11.7
14 Estonian 11.95
15 Hungarian 12.15
16 Erzya 13.29
17 Southwest_Finnish 13.51
18 Finnish 13.67
19 East_German 13.96
20 East_Finnish 14.7
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 75.5% Lithuanian + 24.5% Tuscan @ 2.76
2 54.5% Estonian_Polish + 45.5% Croatian @ 2.76
3 77.3% Lithuanian + 22.7% West_Sicilian @ 2.76
4 78.1% Estonian_Polish + 21.9% Bulgarian @ 2.85
5 66.3% Lithuanian + 33.7% Bulgarian @ 2.88
6 84.9% Estonian_Polish + 15.1% Tuscan @ 2.89
7 73.3% Lithuanian + 26.7% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.91
8 60.3% Croatian + 39.7% Lithuanian @ 2.92
9 98.1% Ukrainian + 1.9% Yemenite_Jewish @ 2.93
10 76.8% Estonian_Polish + 23.2% Romanian @ 2.94
11 64.5% Lithuanian + 35.5% Romanian @ 2.96
12 86.2% Estonian_Polish + 13.8% West_Sicilian @ 2.97
13 51.5% Belorussian + 48.5% Croatian @ 2.97
14 83.4% Estonian_Polish + 16.6% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.98
15 84.1% Estonian_Polish + 15.9% North_Italian @ 2.99
16 98% Ukrainian + 2% Egyptian @ 2.99
17 97.3% Ukrainian + 2.7% Ashkenazi @ 3
18 73.1% Estonian_Polish + 26.9% Serbian @ 3.01
19 97.8% Ukrainian + 2.2% Italian_Jewish @ 3.01
20 97.9% Ukrainian + 2.1% Libyan_Jewish @ 3.01
12)
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 49.58
2 North_Atlantic 22.44
3 West_Med 10.56
4 East_Med 8.52
5 West_Asian 5.25
6 Siberian 1.21
7 Red_Sea 0.89
8 East_Asian 0.65
9 Sub-Saharan 0.35
10 South_Asian 0.29
11 Northeast_African 0.26
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Southwest_Russian 5.11
2 Ukrainian_Belgorod 5.95
3 Estonian_Polish 6.41
4 Russian_Smolensk 6.86
5 Belorussian 7.42
6 Ukrainian 7.75
7 Ukrainian_Lviv 8.95
8 Polish 8.98
9 Erzya 9.35
10 Kargopol_Russian 9.46
11 Lithuanian 9.75
12 South_Polish 10.09
13 Estonian 12.54
14 Croatian 13.46
15 East_Finnish 14.19
16 Finnish 14.85
17 Moldavian 15.51
18 Southwest_Finnish 17.22
19 Hungarian 18.33
20 East_German 20.59
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 86.4% Lithuanian + 13.6% Cyprian @ 4.6
2 87.5% Lithuanian + 12.5% Lebanese_Christian @ 4.61
3 87.4% Lithuanian + 12.6% Samaritan @ 4.65
4 87.5% Lithuanian + 12.5% Lebanese_Druze @ 4.97
5 98.6% Southwest_Russian + 1.4% Yemenite_Jewish @ 5.02
6 98.6% Southwest_Russian + 1.4% Samaritan @ 5.04
7 98.7% Southwest_Russian + 1.3% Lebanese_Christian @ 5.05
8 98.6% Southwest_Russian + 1.4% Tunisian @ 5.05
9 98.7% Southwest_Russian + 1.3% Sardinian @ 5.05
10 98.8% Southwest_Russian + 1.2% Egyptian @ 5.06
11 98.7% Southwest_Russian + 1.3% Cyprian @ 5.06
12 98.7% Southwest_Russian + 1.3% Moroccan @ 5.06
13 98.9% Southwest_Russian + 1.1% Saudi @ 5.06
14 98.7% Southwest_Russian + 1.3% Algerian_Jewish @ 5.07
15 98.8% Southwest_Russian + 1.2% Mozabite_Berber @ 5.07
16 98.9% Southwest_Russian + 1.1% Bedouin @ 5.07
17 98.9% Southwest_Russian + 1.1% Algerian @ 5.07
18 98.7% Southwest_Russian + 1.3% Ashkenazi @ 5.08
19 99% Southwest_Russian + 1% Palestinian @ 5.08
20 99.1% Southwest_Russian + 0.9% Lebanese_Druze @ 5.08
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# Population Percent
1 Baltic 43.89
2 North_Atlantic 25.98
3 West_Med 9.76
4 East_Med 7.61
5 West_Asian 6.37
6 South_Asian 2.9
7 Siberian 1.03
8 Red_Sea 0.71
9 Amerindian 0.67
10 East_Asian 0.6
11 Oceanian 0.47
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Ukrainian 3.56
2 Southwest_Russian 4.05
3 Ukrainian_Lviv 4.07
4 Ukrainian_Belgorod 4.73
5 South_Polish 5.06
6 Polish 5.77
7 Russian_Smolensk 5.87
8 Estonian_Polish 6.29
9 Belorussian 7.07
10 Croatian 8.71
11 Kargopol_Russian 9.2
12 Erzya 11.07
13 Lithuanian 11.16
14 Moldavian 11.18
15 Estonian 11.7
16 Hungarian 12.84
17 Finnish 13.02
18 East_Finnish 13.53
19 Southwest_Finnish 13.72
20 East_German 15.09
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 88.9% Estonian_Polish + 11.1% Turkish @ 1.95
2 74.1% Lithuanian + 25.9% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.01
3 90.5% Estonian_Polish + 9.5% Armenian @ 2.03
4 79.6% Lithuanian + 20.4% South_Italian @ 2.05
5 70.8% Southwest_Russian + 29.2% Croatian @ 2.06
6 90.4% Estonian_Polish + 9.6% Assyrian @ 2.07
7 77.8% Lithuanian + 22.2% Central_Greek @ 2.08
8 90.7% Southwest_Russian + 9.3% North_Italian @ 2.11
9 88% Russian_Smolensk + 12% Ashkenazi @ 2.12
10 89.4% Estonian_Polish + 10.6% Azeri @ 2.12
11 67.5% Lithuanian + 32.5% Bulgarian @ 2.15
12 91.3% Southwest_Russian + 8.7% Tuscan @ 2.15
13 90.6% Estonian_Polish + 9.4% Iranian_Jewish @ 2.17
14 78.3% Lithuanian + 21.7% East_Sicilian @ 2.21
15 83.7% Southwest_Russian + 16.3% Serbian @ 2.21
16 90.8% Estonian_Polish + 9.2% Kurdish_Jewish @ 2.22
17 76.4% Southwest_Russian + 23.6% Moldavian @ 2.23
18 85.3% Russian_Smolensk + 14.7% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.24
19 79.4% Estonian_Polish + 20.6% Bulgarian @ 2.24
20 86.7% Estonian_Polish + 13.3% Central_Greek @ 2.25
14) Найчастіше - на Придніпров'ї
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 46.8
2 North_Atlantic 28.47
3 East_Med 8.12
4 West_Med 7.63
5 West_Asian 5.81
6 Siberian 2.37
7 Red_Sea 0.4
8 Oceanian 0.27
9 Amerindian 0.15
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Southwest_Russian 3.2
2 Belorussian 4.34
3 Ukrainian_Belgorod 4.58
4 Estonian_Polish 4.65
5 Russian_Smolensk 4.72
6 Polish 5.62
7 Ukrainian 5.68
8 South_Polish 6.12
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 6.9
10 Kargopol_Russian 8.46
11 Lithuanian 8.91
12 Estonian 9
13 Finnish 10.21
14 Erzya 10.33
15 East_Finnish 10.96
16 Southwest_Finnish 11.75
17 Croatian 11.89
18 Moldavian 14.63
19 Hungarian 14.83
20 East_German 16.59
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 94.1% Belorussian + 5.9% Lebanese_Druze @ 2.31
2 94.2% Belorussian + 5.8% Assyrian @ 2.37
3 94.2% Belorussian + 5.8% Armenian @ 2.39
4 93.4% Belorussian + 6.6% Turkish @ 2.41
5 94.2% Belorussian + 5.8% Georgian_Jewish @ 2.43
6 93.9% Belorussian + 6.1% Cyprian @ 2.44
7 94.4% Belorussian + 5.6% Kurdish_Jewish @ 2.45
8 94.3% Belorussian + 5.7% Iranian_Jewish @ 2.45
9 94.5% Belorussian + 5.5% Lebanese_Christian @ 2.49
10 94.1% Belorussian + 5.9% Lebanese_Muslim @ 2.52
11 93.7% Belorussian + 6.3% Azeri @ 2.53
12 88% Belorussian + 12% Bulgarian @ 2.55
13 92.4% Belorussian + 7.6% Ashkenazi @ 2.57
14 92.2% Belorussian + 7.8% Central_Greek @ 2.58
15 94.2% Belorussian + 5.8% Kurdish @ 2.59
16 93% Belorussian + 7% South_Italian @ 2.61
17 94.5% Belorussian + 5.5% Samaritan @ 2.62
18 90.7% Southwest_Russian + 9.3% North_Swedish @ 2.63
19 87.4% Belorussian + 12.6% Romanian @ 2.64
20 93.6% Belorussian + 6.4% Italian_Jewish @ 2.64
15) Найчастіше - на Буджаку
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 42.87
2 North_Atlantic 23.45
3 West_Med 10.72
4 East_Med 10.25
5 West_Asian 7.87
6 South_Asian 2.16
7 Siberian 1.32
8 Red_Sea 1.11
9 Northeast_African 0.25
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Ukrainian_Lviv 5.92
2 Ukrainian 6.07
3 Southwest_Russian 6.33
4 Ukrainian_Belgorod 6.74
5 South_Polish 7.41
6 Croatian 7.89
7 Russian_Smolensk 8.9
8 Polish 8.99
9 Estonian_Polish 9.28
10 Moldavian 9.42
11 Belorussian 10.07
12 Kargopol_Russian 11.36
13 Erzya 12.14
14 Hungarian 12.8
15 Lithuanian 14.05
16 Estonian 15.07
17 Serbian 15.77
18 East_German 16.16
19 Finnish 16.17
20 East_Finnish 16.33
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 77.9% Lithuanian + 22.1% Cyprian @ 2.05
2 89.1% Southwest_Russian + 10.9% Cyprian @ 2.08
3 85.5% Estonian_Polish + 14.5% Assyrian @ 2.2
4 88.3% Southwest_Russian + 11.7% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.2
5 82.9% Southwest_Russian + 17.1% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.2
6 86.1% Southwest_Russian + 13.9% East_Sicilian @ 2.24
7 85.8% Southwest_Russian + 14.2% Central_Greek @ 2.25
8 86.3% Southwest_Russian + 13.7% Ashkenazi @ 2.27
9 87.2% Southwest_Russian + 12.8% South_Italian @ 2.3
10 90.2% Southwest_Russian + 9.8% Samaritan @ 2.33
11 90.4% Southwest_Russian + 9.6% Lebanese_Christian @ 2.37
12 88.4% Southwest_Russian + 11.6% Italian_Jewish @ 2.39
13 84.6% Estonian_Polish + 15.4% Cyprian @ 2.4
14 77.5% Southwest_Russian + 22.5% Bulgarian @ 2.42
15 87.7% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 12.3% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.44
16 85.9% Estonian_Polish + 14.1% Kurdish_Jewish @ 2.45
17 88.5% Southwest_Russian + 11.5% Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.45
18 85.4% Estonian_Polish + 14.6% Georgian_Jewish @ 2.45
19 89.1% Southwest_Russian + 10.9% Tunisian_Jewish @ 2.46
20 85.6% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 14.4% Ashkenazi @ 2.47
16) Найчастіше - на Придніпров'ї
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 43.03
2 North_Atlantic 28.47
3 West_Med 9.23
4 East_Med 9.2
5 West_Asian 6.32
6 Red_Sea 1.43
7 East_Asian 1.34
8 Amerindian 0.62
9 Sub-Saharan 0.3
10 Oceanian 0.07
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 South_Polish 4.23
2 Ukrainian 4.58
3 Ukrainian_Lviv 4.97
4 Southwest_Russian 5.81
5 Polish 5.82
6 Ukrainian_Belgorod 6.21
7 Russian_Smolensk 6.98
8 Estonian_Polish 7.46
9 Belorussian 7.52
10 Croatian 8.14
11 Moldavian 11.13
12 Hungarian 11.27
13 Kargopol_Russian 11.6
14 Estonian 12.17
15 Lithuanian 12.18
16 Southwest_Finnish 12.98
17 Finnish 13.15
18 Erzya 13.53
19 East_German 13.57
20 East_Finnish 14.53
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 83.7% Belorussian + 16.3% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.21
2 75.4% Belorussian + 24.6% Bulgarian @ 2.25
3 73.8% Belorussian + 26.2% Romanian @ 2.27
4 69.5% Belorussian + 30.5% Serbian @ 2.35
5 84.1% Belorussian + 15.9% Central_Greek @ 2.38
6 85.5% Belorussian + 14.5% South_Italian @ 2.39
7 81.3% Belorussian + 18.7% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.5
8 84.4% Belorussian + 15.6% West_Sicilian @ 2.52
9 84.6% Belorussian + 15.4% East_Sicilian @ 2.52
10 86.9% Belorussian + 13.1% Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.61
11 86.9% Belorussian + 13.1% Italian_Jewish @ 2.63
12 75.6% Lithuanian + 24.4% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.65
13 57.7% Lithuanian + 42.3% Serbian @ 2.7
14 84.9% Belorussian + 15.1% Ashkenazi @ 2.74
15 91.6% Polish + 8.4% Lebanese_Druze @ 2.77
16 83.3% Belorussian + 16.7% Tuscan @ 2.82
17 87% Belorussian + 13% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.85
18 88.1% Belorussian + 11.9% Cyprian @ 2.86
19 87.7% Belorussian + 12.3% Tunisian_Jewish @ 2.89
20 62.9% Lithuanian + 37.1% Romanian @ 2.92
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17) Найчастіше - на Придніпров'ї
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 47.18
2 North_Atlantic 27.76
3 West_Med 9.94
4 East_Med 5.31
5 West_Asian 4.68
6 Siberian 1.92
7 Amerindian 1.09
8 South_Asian 0.75
9 Red_Sea 0.62
10 Oceanian 0.61
11 Northeast_African 0.15
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Estonian_Polish 2.5
2 Russian_Smolensk 2.9
3 Southwest_Russian 3.05
4 Belorussian 3.63
5 Polish 3.7
6 Ukrainian 4.15
7 Ukrainian_Belgorod 4.6
8 Ukrainian_Lviv 5.66
9 South_Polish 5.86
10 Kargopol_Russian 7.12
11 Lithuanian 7.45
12 Estonian 7.78
13 Erzya 9.73
14 Finnish 9.97
15 East_Finnish 10.45
16 Southwest_Finnish 11.48
17 Croatian 11.73
18 Moldavian 14.65
19 Hungarian 15.33
20 East_German 16.43
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 64% Estonian_Polish + 36% Ukrainian @ 1.09
2 87% Estonian_Polish + 13% Moldavian @ 1.23
3 84.3% Estonian_Polish + 15.7% Croatian @ 1.25
4 92% Estonian_Polish + 8% Romanian @ 1.29
5 92.5% Estonian_Polish + 7.5% Bulgarian @ 1.3
6 72.2% Estonian_Polish + 27.8% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 1.32
7 90.8% Estonian_Polish + 9.2% Serbian @ 1.33
8 94.9% Estonian_Polish + 5.1% Tuscan @ 1.38
9 94.6% Estonian_Polish + 5.4% North_Italian @ 1.39
10 95.2% Estonian_Polish + 4.8% Italian_Abruzzo @ 1.39
11 94.4% Estonian_Polish + 5.6% Greek_Thessaly @ 1.4
12 95.3% Estonian_Polish + 4.7% Central_Greek @ 1.41
13 95.8% Estonian_Polish + 4.2% South_Italian @ 1.42
14 95.4% Estonian_Polish + 4.6% West_Sicilian @ 1.42
15 88.2% Estonian_Polish + 11.8% Hungarian @ 1.46
16 95.6% Estonian_Polish + 4.4% East_Sicilian @ 1.48
17 96.6% Estonian_Polish + 3.4% Sardinian @ 1.49
18 53.9% Belorussian + 46.1% Ukrainian @ 1.5
19 74.1% Estonian_Polish + 25.9% South_Polish @ 1.53
20 96.3% Estonian_Polish + 3.7% Italian_Jewish @ 1.54
18) Найчастіше - на Придніпров'ї
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 45.38
2 North_Atlantic 28.06
3 West_Med 8.57
4 West_Asian 8.14
5 East_Med 4.86
6 Amerindian 1.75
7 South_Asian 1.51
8 Siberian 0.63
9 Sub-Saharan 0.61
10 Red_Sea 0.4
11 Oceanian 0.09
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Ukrainian_Belgorod 3.25
2 Southwest_Russian 3.63
3 Polish 3.99
4 Russian_Smolensk 4.09
5 Ukrainian 4.4
6 Ukrainian_Lviv 5.01
7 South_Polish 5.17
8 Estonian_Polish 5.25
9 Belorussian 5.81
10 Kargopol_Russian 8.27
11 Lithuanian 9.08
12 Estonian 9.44
13 Erzya 10.48
14 Croatian 10.75
15 Finnish 11.19
16 Southwest_Finnish 12.07
17 East_Finnish 12.2
18 Moldavian 13.47
19 Hungarian 14.11
20 East_German 15.45
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 91.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 8.8% Irish @ 1.69
2 91.5% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 8.5% West_Scottish @ 1.71
3 91% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 9% Orcadian @ 1.72
4 90.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 9.8% Norwegian @ 1.75
5 91.1% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 8.9% Southeast_English @ 1.75
6 91.6% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 8.4% Southwest_English @ 1.76
7 89% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 11% Swedish @ 1.77
8 90.5% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 9.5% North_Dutch @ 1.77
9 90.3% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 9.7% Danish @ 1.78
10 89.5% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 10.5% North_German @ 1.8
11 85.3% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 14.7% East_German @ 1.89
12 90.9% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 9.1% South_Dutch @ 1.95
13 87.1% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 12.9% North_Swedish @ 1.97
14 57.4% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 42.6% Polish @ 1.99
15 90.7% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 9.3% West_German @ 2
16 95% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 5% French_Basque @ 2.04
17 65.4% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 34.6% South_Polish @ 2.07
18 87.3% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 12.7% Austrian @ 2.09
19 92.4% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 7.6% French @ 2.14
20 94% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 6% Southwest_French @ 2.22
19) Найчастіше - на Поділлі
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 48.41
2 North_Atlantic 19.92
3 West_Med 13.03
4 West_Asian 7.43
5 East_Med 7.26
6 South_Asian 2.94
7 East_Asian 0.56
8 Sub-Saharan 0.34
9 Oceanian 0.12
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Ukrainian_Belgorod 7.54
2 Southwest_Russian 7.55
3 Ukrainian 8.63
4 Russian_Smolensk 9.08
5 Estonian_Polish 9.21
6 Ukrainian_Lviv 9.37
7 Belorussian 10.59
8 Polish 10.64
9 Erzya 10.67
10 Kargopol_Russian 11.04
11 South_Polish 11.28
12 Lithuanian 12.24
13 Croatian 13.05
14 Moldavian 14.49
15 Estonian 15.28
16 East_Finnish 17.04
17 Finnish 17.79
18 Hungarian 18.7
19 Southwest_Finnish 19.72
20 East_German 21
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 83.9% Lithuanian + 16.1% Cyprian @ 6.81
2 94.6% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 5.4% Sardinian @ 6.82
3 95.5% Southwest_Russian + 4.5% Sardinian @ 7.07
4 85% Lithuanian + 15% Assyrian @ 7.07
5 84.9% Lithuanian + 15.1% Georgian_Jewish @ 7.13
6 85.6% Lithuanian + 14.4% Lebanese_Christian @ 7.14
7 95.7% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 4.3% Cyprian @ 7.16
8 85.2% Lithuanian + 14.8% Armenian @ 7.17
9 95.5% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 4.5% Algerian_Jewish @ 7.17
10 95.8% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 4.2% Moroccan @ 7.17
11 85.4% Lithuanian + 14.6% Samaritan @ 7.18
12 96.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 3.8% Samaritan @ 7.19
13 95.8% Southwest_Russian + 4.2% Cyprian @ 7.19
14 95.9% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 4.1% Tunisian @ 7.19
15 93.6% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 6.4% Greek_Thessaly @ 7.2
16 96% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 4% Mozabite_Berber @ 7.21
17 96.4% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 3.6% Lebanese_Christian @ 7.21
18 96.4% Southwest_Russian + 3.6% Samaritan @ 7.24
19 96.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 3.8% Algerian @ 7.24
20 95.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 4.8% Ashkenazi @ 7.24
20) Найчастіше - на Буджаку
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 46.05
2 North_Atlantic 21.86
3 West_Asian 10.79
4 West_Med 9.16
5 East_Med 8.08
6 Siberian 2.65
7 Red_Sea 0.69
8 Oceanian 0.33
9 Sub-Saharan 0.29
10 Amerindian 0.08
11 East_Asian 0.01
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Ukrainian_Belgorod 5.15
2 Southwest_Russian 5.49
3 Ukrainian 7.91
4 Ukrainian_Lviv 7.99
5 Russian_Smolensk 8.49
6 Erzya 8.85
7 Estonian_Polish 9.13
8 Kargopol_Russian 9.57
9 South_Polish 9.68
10 Belorussian 9.94
11 Polish 9.98
12 Croatian 11.74
13 Lithuanian 12.68
14 Moldavian 12.83
15 Estonian 14.48
16 East_Finnish 15.28
17 Finnish 15.72
18 Hungarian 16.48
19 Southwest_Finnish 17.78
20 Tatar 18.11
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 92.6% Southwest_Russian + 7.4% Abhkasian @ 3.15
2 92.4% Southwest_Russian + 7.6% Georgian @ 3.24
3 91.2% Southwest_Russian + 8.8% Adygei @ 3.25
4 91.4% Southwest_Russian + 8.6% North_Ossetian @ 3.27
5 90.8% Southwest_Russian + 9.2% Kabardin @ 3.3
6 91.3% Southwest_Russian + 8.7% Balkar @ 3.33
7 90.9% Southwest_Russian + 9.1% Kumyk @ 3.41
8 92.1% Southwest_Russian + 7.9% Ossetian @ 3.51
9 92.7% Southwest_Russian + 7.3% Georgian_Jewish @ 3.52
10 93.5% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 6.5% Georgian_Jewish @ 3.53
11 91% Southwest_Russian + 9% Chechen @ 3.53
12 92.9% Southwest_Russian + 7.1% Armenian @ 3.56
13 93.7% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 6.3% Assyrian @ 3.58
14 91.3% Southwest_Russian + 8.7% Lezgin @ 3.61
15 93.7% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 6.3% Armenian @ 3.62
16 93.9% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 6.1% Kurdish_Jewish @ 3.65
17 92.7% Southwest_Russian + 7.3% Kurdish @ 3.66
18 94.1% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 5.9% Lebanese_Christian @ 3.67
19 93.5% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 6.5% Cyprian @ 3.68
20 94% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 6% Iranian_Jewish @ 3.69
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21) Найчастіше - на Придніпров'ї
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 39.95
2 North_Atlantic 30.63
3 West_Med 12.74
4 West_Asian 6.87
5 East_Med 3.94
6 South_Asian 1.72
7 East_Asian 1.02
8 Red_Sea 1
9 Siberian 0.75
10 Amerindian 0.66
11 Sub-Saharan 0.63
12 Northeast_African 0.08
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 South_Polish 3.38
2 Ukrainian_Lviv 3.95
3 Ukrainian 4.62
4 Polish 5.67
5 Croatian 6.92
6 Russian_Smolensk 8.8
7 Southwest_Russian 9.07
8 Ukrainian_Belgorod 9.21
9 Hungarian 9.35
10 East_German 9.52
11 Estonian_Polish 9.6
12 Belorussian 10.14
13 Moldavian 10.2
14 Southwest_Finnish 11.31
15 Austrian 11.47
16 Kargopol_Russian 12.2
17 Estonian 12.5
18 Finnish 13.2
19 Lithuanian 13.88
20 North_Swedish 14.25
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 82.1% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 17.9% French_Basque @ 1.47
2 87.1% Ukrainian_Lviv + 12.9% Irish @ 1.88
3 87.7% Ukrainian_Lviv + 12.3% West_Scottish @ 1.92
4 87.7% Ukrainian_Lviv + 12.3% Southwest_English @ 1.93
5 86.8% Ukrainian_Lviv + 13.2% Orcadian @ 1.93
6 85.8% Ukrainian_Lviv + 14.2% Norwegian @ 1.97
7 85.8% Ukrainian_Lviv + 14.2% Danish @ 1.99
8 86.1% Ukrainian_Lviv + 13.9% North_Dutch @ 2.02
9 84% Ukrainian_Lviv + 16% Swedish @ 2.02
10 85% Ukrainian + 15% Irish @ 2.03
11 85.5% Ukrainian + 14.5% Southwest_English @ 2.03
12 87.1% Ukrainian_Lviv + 12.9% Southeast_English @ 2.05
13 84.5% Ukrainian_Lviv + 15.5% North_German @ 2.09
14 85.6% Ukrainian + 14.4% West_Scottish @ 2.1
15 69.3% Ukrainian + 30.7% East_German @ 2.12
16 73.6% Ukrainian_Lviv + 26.4% East_German @ 2.14
17 84.7% Ukrainian + 15.3% Orcadian @ 2.18
18 81.7% Ukrainian + 18.3% North_German @ 2.2
19 83.3% Ukrainian + 16.7% South_Dutch @ 2.23
20 83.9% Ukrainian + 16.1% North_Dutch @ 2.26
22) Найчастіше - на Придніпров'ї
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 45.43
2 North_Atlantic 26.09
3 West_Med 11.92
4 East_Med 7.17
5 West_Asian 6.41
6 Siberian 1.66
7 South_Asian 0.61
8 East_Asian 0.5
9 Oceanian 0.18
10 Red_Sea 0.01
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Ukrainian 2.8
2 Southwest_Russian 4.01
3 Ukrainian_Lviv 4.34
4 Ukrainian_Belgorod 4.9
5 South_Polish 5.18
6 Polish 5.5
7 Russian_Smolensk 5.59
8 Estonian_Polish 5.81
9 Belorussian 6.81
10 Kargopol_Russian 9.02
11 Croatian 9.23
12 Lithuanian 10.56
13 Erzya 10.77
14 Estonian 11.3
15 Moldavian 11.84
16 Finnish 13.03
17 East_Finnish 13.4
18 Hungarian 13.72
19 Southwest_Finnish 13.86
20 East_German 15.59
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 93.9% Southwest_Russian + 6.1% Sardinian @ 1.83
2 65.4% Ukrainian + 34.6% Southwest_Russian @ 2.15
3 69.4% Lithuanian + 30.6% Bulgarian @ 2.34
4 73.8% Ukrainian + 26.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.35
5 88.1% Ukrainian + 11.9% Erzya @ 2.42
6 81.7% Estonian_Polish + 18.3% Bulgarian @ 2.53
7 74.2% Southwest_Russian + 25.8% Croatian @ 2.55
8 68.9% Estonian_Polish + 31.1% Moldavian @ 2.56
9 92.1% Southwest_Russian + 7.9% Southwest_French @ 2.56
10 92.9% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 7.1% Sardinian @ 2.57
11 83.3% Ukrainian + 16.7% Estonian_Polish @ 2.6
12 91.9% Southwest_Russian + 8.1% North_Italian @ 2.63
13 92.8% Southwest_Russian + 7.2% Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.64
14 53% Lithuanian + 47% Moldavian @ 2.65
15 87.4% Ukrainian + 12.6% Belorussian @ 2.65
16 84.7% Ukrainian + 15.3% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.66
17 92.5% Southwest_Russian + 7.5% Spanish_Cantabria @ 2.66
18 75.9% Lithuanian + 24.1% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.66
19 92.5% Southwest_Russian + 7.5% Spanish_Valencia @ 2.66
20 92.5% Ukrainian + 7.5% Lithuanian @ 2.67
23) Найчастіше - на Галичині
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 50.14
2 North_Atlantic 21.58
3 East_Med 8.89
4 West_Med 8.62
5 West_Asian 7.12
6 South_Asian 1.62
7 Amerindian 1.01
8 East_Asian 0.8
9 Red_Sea 0.21
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Southwest_Russian 5.66
2 Ukrainian_Belgorod 5.68
3 Estonian_Polish 7.6
4 Russian_Smolensk 7.65
5 Belorussian 8.42
6 Ukrainian 9.11
7 Erzya 9.34
8 Polish 10.11
9 Lithuanian 10.12
10 Kargopol_Russian 10.13
11 Ukrainian_Lviv 10.14
12 South_Polish 11.25
13 Estonian 13.46
14 Croatian 14.49
15 East_Finnish 15.27
16 Finnish 15.88
17 Moldavian 16.3
18 Southwest_Finnish 18.47
19 Hungarian 19.29
20 East_German 21.79
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 86.9% Lithuanian + 13.1% Assyrian @ 5.11
2 87.3% Lithuanian + 12.7% Lebanese_Christian @ 5.14
3 87.3% Lithuanian + 12.7% Kurdish_Jewish @ 5.18
4 87.1% Lithuanian + 12.9% Iranian_Jewish @ 5.2
5 86.8% Lithuanian + 13.2% Georgian_Jewish @ 5.21
6 87.1% Lithuanian + 12.9% Lebanese_Druze @ 5.25
7 87.3% Lithuanian + 12.7% Samaritan @ 5.33
8 86.4% Lithuanian + 13.6% Cyprian @ 5.34
9 86.7% Lithuanian + 13.3% Lebanese_Muslim @ 5.5
10 87.3% Lithuanian + 12.7% Armenian @ 5.51
11 98.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 1.8% Yemenite_Jewish @ 5.55
12 52% Southwest_Russian + 48% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 5.56
13 86.8% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 13.2% Erzya @ 5.57
14 98.5% Southwest_Russian + 1.5% Lebanese_Christian @ 5.59
15 98.4% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 1.6% Lebanese_Christian @ 5.59
16 98.5% Southwest_Russian + 1.5% Georgian_Jewish @ 5.59
17 98.6% Southwest_Russian + 1.4% Samaritan @ 5.6
18 98.5% Southwest_Russian + 1.5% Assyrian @ 5.6
19 98.4% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 1.6% Samaritan @ 5.6
20 98.6% Southwest_Russian + 1.4% Iranian_Jewish @ 5.6
24) Найчастіше - на Придніпров'ї
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 48.22
2 North_Atlantic 26.25
3 Siberian 8.03
4 West_Med 5.77
5 West_Asian 5.75
6 South_Asian 2.04
7 East_Med 1.9
8 East_Asian 1.32
9 Amerindian 0.63
10 Red_Sea 0.1
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Kargopol_Russian 3.05
2 Erzya 5.51
3 East_Finnish 5.89
4 Southwest_Russian 7.74
5 Finnish 8.08
6 Estonian_Polish 8.11
7 Russian_Smolensk 8.44
8 Belorussian 8.52
9 Estonian 8.57
10 Ukrainian_Belgorod 8.62
11 Lithuanian 9.61
12 Polish 10.32
13 Ukrainian 10.43
14 Ukrainian_Lviv 11.21
15 South_Polish 11.69
16 Southwest_Finnish 12.5
17 Tatar 16.77
18 Croatian 17.04
19 Chuvash 17.29
20 La_Brana-1 18.02
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 60.5% Erzya + 39.5% Finnish @ 2.13
2 84.3% Lithuanian + 15.7% Shors @ 2.13
3 71.1% Erzya + 28.9% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.32
4 85.3% Lithuanian + 14.7% Hakas @ 2.32
5 52% Erzya + 48% East_Finnish @ 2.33
6 73.7% Kargopol_Russian + 26.3% East_Finnish @ 2.37
7 89.9% Lithuanian + 10.1% Yakut @ 2.37
8 89.8% Lithuanian + 10.2% Dolgan @ 2.51
9 90.3% Lithuanian + 9.7% Evenki @ 2.51
10 90.5% Lithuanian + 9.5% Evens @ 2.54
11 86.8% Lithuanian + 13.2% Altaian @ 2.56
12 80.2% Erzya + 19.8% North_Swedish @ 2.57
13 67.6% Estonian + 32.4% Chuvash @ 2.57
14 82.5% Kargopol_Russian + 17.5% Finnish @ 2.59
15 92.3% Kargopol_Russian + 7.7% La_Brana-1 @ 2.67
16 88.2% Lithuanian + 11.8% Tuvinian @ 2.7
17 98.5% Kargopol_Russian + 1.5% Oroqen @ 2.76
18 98.3% Kargopol_Russian + 1.7% Buryat @ 2.78
19 98.2% Kargopol_Russian + 1.8% Mongolian @ 2.78
20 98.4% Kargopol_Russian + 1.6% Xibo @ 2.78
Ion Basescul
09-06-2020, 08:32 PM
25) Найчастіше - на Слобожанщині
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 45.49
2 North_Atlantic 28
3 West_Asian 10.19
4 West_Med 7.82
5 East_Med 4.34
6 Siberian 2.43
7 South_Asian 1.53
8 Amerindian 0.11
9 Northeast_African 0.08
10 Oceanian 0.03
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Ukrainian_Belgorod 3.52
2 Southwest_Russian 4.31
3 Russian_Smolensk 5.24
4 Ukrainian 5.83
5 Polish 5.88
6 Ukrainian_Lviv 6.18
7 South_Polish 6.21
8 Estonian_Polish 6.57
9 Belorussian 6.85
10 Kargopol_Russian 7.69
11 Erzya 9.53
12 Lithuanian 9.78
13 Estonian 9.91
14 Finnish 10.96
15 East_Finnish 11.68
16 Croatian 11.7
17 Southwest_Finnish 12.35
18 Moldavian 13.98
19 Hungarian 14.79
20 East_German 16.21
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 86% Estonian + 14% Abhkasian @ 2.32
2 85.5% Estonian + 14.5% Georgian @ 2.39
3 83.5% Estonian + 16.5% Adygei @ 2.51
4 91.3% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 8.7% Norwegian @ 2.53
5 92.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 7.8% Irish @ 2.53
6 92.5% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 7.5% West_Scottish @ 2.54
7 90.3% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 9.7% Swedish @ 2.55
8 90.6% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 9.4% North_German @ 2.55
9 91.4% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 8.6% Danish @ 2.56
10 92.1% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 7.9% Orcadian @ 2.56
11 91.6% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 8.4% North_Dutch @ 2.58
12 90.6% Russian_Smolensk + 9.4% Tabassaran @ 2.58
13 88.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 11.8% North_Swedish @ 2.6
14 87.4% Belorussian + 12.6% Tabassaran @ 2.63
15 92.9% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 7.1% Southwest_English @ 2.63
16 90.9% Russian_Smolensk + 9.1% Lezgin @ 2.68
17 92.7% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 7.3% Southeast_English @ 2.69
18 87.7% Belorussian + 12.3% Chechen @ 2.73
19 88% Estonian_Polish + 12% Tabassaran @ 2.73
20 88.7% Belorussian + 11.3% North_Ossetian @ 2.75
26) Найчастіше - на Донщині
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 44.68
2 North_Atlantic 27.7
3 West_Asian 10.15
4 East_Med 7.01
5 West_Med 6.65
6 Siberian 1.84
7 Oceanian 1.23
8 Sub-Saharan 0.42
9 Red_Sea 0.25
10 South_Asian 0.07
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Ukrainian_Belgorod 4.07
2 Southwest_Russian 4.6
3 South_Polish 6.44
4 Russian_Smolensk 6.49
5 Ukrainian 6.52
6 Ukrainian_Lviv 6.59
7 Polish 6.99
8 Belorussian 7.49
9 Estonian_Polish 7.59
10 Kargopol_Russian 9.49
11 Erzya 10.77
12 Croatian 11.1
13 Lithuanian 11.12
14 Estonian 11.35
15 Finnish 12.01
16 East_Finnish 12.96
17 Moldavian 13.21
18 Southwest_Finnish 13.28
19 Hungarian 14.04
20 East_German 16.22
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 86.1% Belorussian + 13.9% Lezgin @ 2.29
2 86.1% Belorussian + 13.9% Chechen @ 2.39
3 85.9% Belorussian + 14.1% Tabassaran @ 2.44
4 87.3% Belorussian + 12.7% North_Ossetian @ 2.5
5 87.1% Belorussian + 12.9% Adygei @ 2.59
6 89.3% Belorussian + 10.7% Abhkasian @ 2.63
7 87.9% Belorussian + 12.1% Ossetian @ 2.66
8 87.1% Belorussian + 12.9% Balkar @ 2.66
9 86.6% Belorussian + 13.4% Kabardin @ 2.7
10 88.9% Belorussian + 11.1% Georgian @ 2.71
11 86.4% Belorussian + 13.6% Kumyk @ 2.74
12 90.7% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 9.3% West_German @ 3.15
13 90.1% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 9.9% North_German @ 3.17
14 84.5% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 15.5% Hungarian @ 3.21
15 92.9% Southwest_Russian + 7.1% Tabassaran @ 3.21
16 91.4% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 8.6% North_Dutch @ 3.24
17 91.3% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 8.7% Danish @ 3.25
18 91.5% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 8.5% South_Dutch @ 3.25
19 93.2% Southwest_Russian + 6.8% Lezgin @ 3.27
20 92.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 7.8% Southeast_English @ 3.28
27) Найчастіше - на Придніпров'ї
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 42.42
2 North_Atlantic 25.86
3 West_Med 13.21
4 East_Med 9.13
5 West_Asian 5.38
6 East_Asian 1.92
7 Siberian 1.22
8 Amerindian 0.36
9 Red_Sea 0.32
10 Oceanian 0.17
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Ukrainian 4.04
2 Ukrainian_Lviv 4.74
3 South_Polish 5.63
4 Croatian 6.7
5 Southwest_Russian 7.13
6 Polish 7.56
7 Ukrainian_Belgorod 7.93
8 Russian_Smolensk 8.73
9 Estonian_Polish 8.81
10 Moldavian 9.3
11 Belorussian 9.63
12 Hungarian 11.44
13 Kargopol_Russian 11.81
14 Erzya 13.58
15 Lithuanian 13.78
16 Estonian 13.97
17 East_German 13.98
18 Southwest_Finnish 15.01
19 Finnish 15.11
20 Austrian 15.21
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 88.5% Southwest_Russian + 11.5% Sardinian @ 2.48
2 92.5% Ukrainian + 7.5% Ashkenazi @ 2.63
3 93.7% Ukrainian + 6.3% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.67
4 95% Ukrainian + 5% Lebanese_Christian @ 2.7
5 94.9% Ukrainian + 5.1% Samaritan @ 2.7
6 93.8% Ukrainian + 6.2% Italian_Jewish @ 2.71
7 94.4% Ukrainian + 5.6% Cyprian @ 2.73
8 94.3% Ukrainian + 5.7% Tunisian_Jewish @ 2.77
9 95% Ukrainian + 5% Lebanese_Druze @ 2.79
10 94.3% Ukrainian + 5.7% Libyan_Jewish @ 2.79
11 95.6% Ukrainian + 4.4% Yemenite_Jewish @ 2.81
12 94.1% Ukrainian + 5.9% Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.84
13 91% Ukrainian + 9% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.85
14 87.7% Ukrainian + 12.3% Bulgarian @ 2.86
15 95% Ukrainian + 5% Palestinian @ 2.87
16 92.9% Ukrainian + 7.1% East_Sicilian @ 2.88
17 92.8% Ukrainian + 7.2% Central_Greek @ 2.89
18 93.5% Ukrainian + 6.5% South_Italian @ 2.91
19 95.2% Ukrainian + 4.8% Egyptian @ 2.93
20 70.9% Estonian_Polish + 29.1% Bulgarian @ 2.93
28) Найчастіше - на Слобожанщині
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 44.97
2 North_Atlantic 28.52
3 West_Asian 9.41
4 West_Med 9.12
5 East_Med 5.58
6 Siberian 1.17
7 Oceanian 0.84
8 Sub-Saharan 0.21
9 South_Asian 0.18
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Ukrainian_Belgorod 3.75
2 Southwest_Russian 4.25
3 Ukrainian 4.47
4 South_Polish 4.6
5 Polish 4.79
6 Ukrainian_Lviv 4.9
7 Russian_Smolensk 5.1
8 Estonian_Polish 6.39
9 Belorussian 6.6
10 Kargopol_Russian 9.22
11 Lithuanian 10.16
12 Croatian 10.19
13 Estonian 10.33
14 Erzya 11.15
15 Finnish 11.67
16 Southwest_Finnish 12.36
17 Moldavian 12.81
18 East_Finnish 12.82
19 Hungarian 13.49
20 East_German 14.95
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 90.1% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 9.9% Southwest_English @ 1.89
2 89.6% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 10.4% Southeast_English @ 1.91
3 88.8% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 11.2% North_Dutch @ 1.96
4 89.6% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 10.4% Orcadian @ 1.96
5 89.8% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 10.2% Irish @ 1.97
6 88.9% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 11.1% South_Dutch @ 1.98
7 88.4% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 11.6% West_German @ 1.98
8 90.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 9.8% West_Scottish @ 1.98
9 87.7% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 12.3% North_German @ 1.99
10 82.4% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 17.6% East_German @ 2.01
11 83.8% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 16.2% Austrian @ 2.02
12 88.8% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 11.2% Danish @ 2.04
13 56.8% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 43.2% South_Polish @ 2.06
14 88.8% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 11.2% Norwegian @ 2.08
15 87.6% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 12.4% Swedish @ 2.13
16 93.9% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 6.1% French_Basque @ 2.14
17 90.6% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 9.4% French @ 2.2
18 93.3% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 6.7% Spanish_Aragon @ 2.35
19 92.6% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 7.4% Southwest_French @ 2.35
20 92.4% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 7.6% Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.36
vbnetkhio
09-06-2020, 08:38 PM
21) Найчастіше - на Придніпров'ї
do you know the genalogy of these people? i would guess they are those south Ukrainian settlers with origins from various parts of Russian Empire/USSR ?
Ion Basescul
09-06-2020, 08:41 PM
29) Найчастіше - на Придніпров'ї
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 46.07
2 North_Atlantic 23.64
3 West_Med 11.27
4 West_Asian 7.83
5 East_Med 7.1
6 Siberian 1.43
7 Amerindian 1.23
8 Red_Sea 0.59
9 Oceanian 0.45
10 South_Asian 0.25
11 Northeast_African 0.12
12 East_Asian 0.03
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Southwest_Russian 3.87
2 Ukrainian_Belgorod 4.31
3 Ukrainian 4.86
4 Ukrainian_Lviv 5.47
5 Russian_Smolensk 6.26
6 Estonian_Polish 6.66
7 Polish 7.12
8 South_Polish 7.38
9 Belorussian 7.87
10 Kargopol_Russian 8.81
11 Erzya 9.55
12 Croatian 10.14
13 Lithuanian 10.88
14 Moldavian 12.15
15 Estonian 12.46
16 East_Finnish 14.28
17 Finnish 14.34
18 Hungarian 15.14
19 Southwest_Finnish 15.8
20 East_German 17.53
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 95.3% Southwest_Russian + 4.7% Sardinian @ 2.72
2 94.3% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 5.7% Sardinian @ 2.73
3 82.2% Southwest_Russian + 17.8% Moldavian @ 2.91
4 90.2% Southwest_Russian + 9.8% Bulgarian @ 2.93
5 92.8% Southwest_Russian + 7.2% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.96
6 94% Southwest_Russian + 6% Central_Greek @ 2.97
7 95.5% Southwest_Russian + 4.5% Cyprian @ 2.98
8 94.7% Southwest_Russian + 5.3% South_Italian @ 3.01
9 94.3% Southwest_Russian + 5.7% East_Sicilian @ 3.02
10 95.3% Southwest_Russian + 4.7% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.06
11 90.4% Southwest_Russian + 9.6% Romanian @ 3.09
12 80.7% Southwest_Russian + 19.3% Croatian @ 3.12
13 96.2% Southwest_Russian + 3.8% Samaritan @ 3.12
14 94.7% Southwest_Russian + 5.3% West_Sicilian @ 3.13
15 96.1% Southwest_Russian + 3.9% Armenian @ 3.13
16 96.3% Southwest_Russian + 3.7% Lebanese_Christian @ 3.14
17 95.6% Southwest_Russian + 4.4% Italian_Jewish @ 3.16
18 94.8% Southwest_Russian + 5.2% Ashkenazi @ 3.16
19 96.1% Southwest_Russian + 3.9% Georgian_Jewish @ 3.16
20 94.6% Southwest_Russian + 5.4% Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.17
30) Найчастіше - на Слобожанщині
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 43.85
2 North_Atlantic 23.42
3 West_Med 9.29
4 Siberian 7.7
5 West_Asian 6.67
6 South_Asian 2.96
7 East_Med 2.77
8 East_Asian 1.06
9 Red_Sea 0.79
10 Amerindian 0.53
11 Oceanian 0.49
12 Sub-Saharan 0.46
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Kargopol_Russian 5.21
2 Erzya 7.08
3 Southwest_Russian 7.75
4 Ukrainian_Lviv 8.48
5 Ukrainian 8.5
6 Ukrainian_Belgorod 8.61
7 Russian_Smolensk 9.41
8 Estonian_Polish 9.41
9 Polish 10.24
10 South_Polish 10.25
11 Belorussian 10.49
12 East_Finnish 10.51
13 Finnish 11.95
14 Estonian 12.24
15 Lithuanian 12.85
16 Croatian 13.26
17 Tatar 13.55
18 Moldavian 14.38
19 Southwest_Finnish 14.4
20 Chuvash 16.57
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 73.3% Ukrainian + 26.7% Mari @ 2.23
2 66.8% Ukrainian + 33.2% Chuvash @ 2.33
3 59.5% Estonian_Polish + 40.5% Tatar @ 2.61
4 73.6% Ukrainian_Lviv + 26.4% Mari @ 2.62
5 67% Ukrainian_Lviv + 33% Chuvash @ 2.72
6 84.9% Erzya + 15.1% Spanish_Galicia @ 2.75
7 86.6% Erzya + 13.4% Spanish_Aragon @ 2.76
8 86.2% Erzya + 13.8% Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.77
9 86.1% Erzya + 13.9% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 2.8
10 91.8% Kargopol_Russian + 8.2% Turkish @ 2.8
11 85.7% Erzya + 14.3% Spanish_Cantabria @ 2.81
12 89.9% Kargopol_Russian + 10.1% Nogay @ 2.85
13 85.9% Erzya + 14.1% Spanish_Murcia @ 2.85
14 85.7% Erzya + 14.3% Spanish_Extremadura @ 2.86
15 85.3% Erzya + 14.7% Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.89
16 85.2% Erzya + 14.8% Portuguese @ 2.89
17 91.3% Kargopol_Russian + 8.7% South_Italian @ 2.89
18 85.5% Erzya + 14.5% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 2.9
19 85.5% Erzya + 14.5% Southwest_French @ 2.9
20 84.4% Russian_Smolensk + 15.6% Shors @ 2.9
31) Найчастіше - у Таврії
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 43.95
2 North_Atlantic 28.14
3 West_Med 7.72
4 West_Asian 7.05
5 East_Med 6.32
6 South_Asian 2.19
7 Red_Sea 2.17
8 Amerindian 1.61
9 Sub-Saharan 0.78
10 Oceanian 0.08
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Polish 4.7
2 Ukrainian_Belgorod 4.7
3 Southwest_Russian 4.7
4 Ukrainian_Lviv 4.95
5 Ukrainian 5.05
6 South_Polish 5.09
7 Russian_Smolensk 5.18
8 Estonian_Polish 6.09
9 Belorussian 6.35
10 Kargopol_Russian 9.67
11 Croatian 9.9
12 Lithuanian 10.36
13 Estonian 10.56
14 Erzya 11.83
15 Finnish 11.84
16 Southwest_Finnish 12.25
17 Moldavian 12.67
18 Hungarian 12.97
19 East_Finnish 13
20 East_German 14.67
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 93.6% Polish + 6.4% Iranian @ 2.89
2 90.6% Belorussian + 9.4% Kurdish @ 2.9
3 93.1% Russian_Smolensk + 6.9% Iranian_Jewish @ 2.92
4 90.6% Belorussian + 9.4% Iranian @ 2.93
5 93.1% Russian_Smolensk + 6.9% Lebanese_Druze @ 2.93
6 92.7% Russian_Smolensk + 7.3% Syrian @ 2.94
7 92.7% Russian_Smolensk + 7.3% Lebanese_Muslim @ 2.94
8 90.1% Russian_Smolensk + 9.9% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.95
9 93% Russian_Smolensk + 7% Palestinian @ 2.95
10 92% Russian_Smolensk + 8% Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.95
11 90% Belorussian + 10% Azeri @ 2.96
12 88.8% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 11.2% French @ 2.97
13 86.8% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 13.2% West_German @ 2.97
14 79.7% Lithuanian + 20.3% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.97
15 93.3% Russian_Smolensk + 6.7% Kurdish_Jewish @ 2.98
16 87.3% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 12.7% South_Dutch @ 2.98
17 92.9% Russian_Smolensk + 7.1% Jordanian @ 2.98
18 92.3% Russian_Smolensk + 7.7% Azeri @ 3
19 79.9% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 20.1% East_German @ 3
20 92.4% Russian_Smolensk + 7.6% Tunisian_Jewish @ 3
32) Найчастіше - на Волині
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 47.85
2 North_Atlantic 28.04
3 West_Med 10.61
4 West_Asian 5.72
5 East_Med 3.45
6 South_Asian 2.04
7 Northeast_African 0.81
8 Amerindian 0.74
9 Oceanian 0.39
10 Siberian 0.35
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Russian_Smolensk 2.68
2 Estonian_Polish 3.27
3 Polish 3.37
4 Belorussian 4.41
5 Southwest_Russian 4.46
6 Ukrainian_Belgorod 4.8
7 Ukrainian 4.81
8 Ukrainian_Lviv 6.28
9 South_Polish 6.38
10 Lithuanian 6.76
11 Kargopol_Russian 7.87
12 Estonian 7.92
13 Erzya 10.47
14 Finnish 10.83
15 East_Finnish 11.49
16 Southwest_Finnish 12.12
17 Croatian 12.42
18 Moldavian 15.42
19 Hungarian 16.17
20 East_German 16.69
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 59.2% Ukrainian + 40.8% Lithuanian @ 1.69
2 65.3% Lithuanian + 34.7% Croatian @ 1.78
3 70.3% Lithuanian + 29.7% Moldavian @ 1.94
4 52% Ukrainian_Lviv + 48% Lithuanian @ 2
5 73.7% Russian_Smolensk + 26.3% Ukrainian @ 2.21
6 97.6% Russian_Smolensk + 2.4% Sardinian @ 2.28
7 80.1% Lithuanian + 19.9% Romanian @ 2.31
8 64.3% Russian_Smolensk + 35.7% Polish @ 2.31
9 85.5% Lithuanian + 14.5% North_Italian @ 2.32
10 97.5% Russian_Smolensk + 2.5% French_Basque @ 2.37
11 96.9% Russian_Smolensk + 3.1% Southwest_French @ 2.39
12 77.5% Lithuanian + 22.5% Serbian @ 2.4
13 51.5% Estonian_Polish + 48.5% Polish @ 2.41
14 97.1% Russian_Smolensk + 2.9% Spanish_Cantabria @ 2.42
15 86.4% Lithuanian + 13.6% Tuscan @ 2.42
16 81.3% Lithuanian + 18.7% Bulgarian @ 2.43
17 97.3% Russian_Smolensk + 2.7% Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.44
18 97.3% Russian_Smolensk + 2.7% Spanish_Valencia @ 2.44
19 97.3% Russian_Smolensk + 2.7% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 2.45
20 97.5% Russian_Smolensk + 2.5% Spanish_Aragon @ 2.45
Aspirin
09-06-2020, 08:42 PM
Найчастіше - на ...
What does this mean? Frequency of their surnames?
Ion Basescul
09-06-2020, 08:42 PM
do you know the genalogy of these people? i would guess they are those south Ukrainian settlers with origins from various parts of Russian Empire/USSR ?
I am only showing where their surnames are most popular in Ukraine. If someone wants to know more about them, they can contact the manager of the kits on the email. PM me for that.
Ion Basescul
09-06-2020, 08:43 PM
What does this mean? Frequency of their surnames?
Yes, it shows in which historic region the surname peaks. This is my source: https://ridni.org/karta/
Going by surnames only and flooding the thread with random results makes no sense. Russia is full of Ukrainian surnames, so what? A lot of those people might have a father or grandfather from Ukraine and also married women would normally have their husbands' last names. My surname is from Central/Western Belarus for example but my mother is Northeastern Russian.
Slavic Italian
09-06-2020, 08:50 PM
Going by surnames only and flooding the thread with random results makes no sense. Russia is full of Ukrainian surnames, so what? A lot of those people might have a father or grandfather from Ukraine and also married women would normally have their husbands' last names. My surname is from Central/Western Belarus for example but my mother is Northeastern Russian.
We are like brothers. Evil laughter!!!
K3
1 W_Eurasian 95.34
2 E_Eurasian 4.27
Finished reading population data. 129 populations found.
3 components mode.
--------------------------------
Least-squares method.
Using 1 population approximation:
1 Ukrainian @ 0.494369
2 Belarusian @ 0.810557
3 Georgian @ 1.073763
4 Lithuanian @ 1.192661
5 Hungarian @ 1.279500
6 Estonian @ 1.403322
7 Bulgarian @ 1.665188
8 Abkhasian @ 1.807273
9 Norwegian @ 2.201757
10 Armenian @ 2.219446
11 Loschbour @ 2.388139
12 Czech @ 2.542570
13 Croatian @ 2.613880
14 Georgian_Jew @ 2.677744
15 Albanian @ 3.220294
16 Assyrian @ 3.281794
17 Iranian_Jew @ 3.327945
18 French @ 3.381817
19 Greek @ 3.397692
20 Ashkenazi_Jew @ 3.757421
Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Abkhasian +50% Bulgarian @ 0.000000
2 50% Abkhasian +50% Hungarian @ 0.000000
3 50% Abkhasian +50% Norwegian @ 0.000000
4 50% Belarusian +50% Georgian @ 0.000000
5 50% Bergamo +50% Chechen @ 0.000000
6 50% Bulgarian +50% Estonian @ 0.000000
7 50% Chechen +50% French_South @ 0.000000
8 50% Bulgarian +50% Loschbour @ 0.273491
9 50% Abkhasian +50% Czech @ 0.293030
10 50% Abkhasian +50% Lithuanian @ 0.303841
11 50% Abkhasian +50% Croatian @ 0.308281
12 50% Estonian +50% Georgian @ 0.328163
13 50% Adygei +50% Stuttgart @ 0.328391
14 50% Estonian +50% Hungarian @ 0.348678
15 50% Czech +50% Loschbour @ 0.370978
16 50% Georgian +50% Ukrainian @ 0.408961
17 50% Greek +50% Loschbour @ 0.415959
18 50% Albanian +50% Loschbour @ 0.429044
19 50% Croatian +50% Loschbour @ 0.429645
20 50% Chechen +50% LBK_EN @ 0.431104
Ion Basescul
09-06-2020, 08:50 PM
33) Найчастіше - на Причорномор'ї
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 46.02
2 North_Atlantic 28.16
3 West_Asian 8.52
4 West_Med 8.5
5 East_Med 6.08
6 Amerindian 1.62
7 Oceanian 0.53
8 Red_Sea 0.28
9 Sub-Saharan 0.28
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Ukrainian_Belgorod 3.22
2 Southwest_Russian 3.72
3 Russian_Smolensk 4.47
4 Polish 4.59
5 Ukrainian 4.95
6 South_Polish 5.56
7 Estonian_Polish 5.6
8 Ukrainian_Lviv 5.66
9 Belorussian 5.86
10 Lithuanian 9.22
11 Kargopol_Russian 9.34
12 Estonian 9.96
13 Croatian 10.92
14 Erzya 11.09
15 Finnish 11.85
16 Southwest_Finnish 12.77
17 East_Finnish 13.02
18 Moldavian 13.67
19 Hungarian 14.33
20 East_German 15.89
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 92.3% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 7.7% Southeast_English @ 2.16
2 91.7% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 8.3% North_Dutch @ 2.17
3 91.6% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 8.4% Norwegian @ 2.19
4 92.5% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 7.5% Irish @ 2.2
5 92.8% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 7.2% West_Scottish @ 2.22
6 92.9% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 7.1% Southwest_English @ 2.22
7 92.4% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 7.6% Orcadian @ 2.22
8 91% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 9% North_German @ 2.22
9 91.8% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 8.2% Danish @ 2.23
10 90.7% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 9.3% Swedish @ 2.23
11 87.4% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 12.6% East_German @ 2.29
12 91.8% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 8.2% West_German @ 2.29
13 92.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 7.8% South_Dutch @ 2.32
14 88.7% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 11.3% Austrian @ 2.33
15 69.5% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 30.5% South_Polish @ 2.34
16 64.7% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 35.3% Polish @ 2.41
17 93.5% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 6.5% French @ 2.42
18 89.6% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 10.4% North_Swedish @ 2.45
19 95.9% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 4.1% French_Basque @ 2.45
20 87.3% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 12.7% Hungarian @ 2.48
34) Найчастіше - на Слобожанщині
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 47.9
2 North_Atlantic 25.15
3 West_Med 9.68
4 East_Med 5.94
5 West_Asian 4.88
6 South_Asian 2.31
7 Siberian 2.17
8 Oceanian 1.12
9 Amerindian 0.84
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Southwest_Russian 2.8
2 Estonian_Polish 3.74
3 Russian_Smolensk 4.23
4 Ukrainian_Belgorod 4.42
5 Belorussian 5.07
6 Ukrainian 5.43
7 Polish 6.15
8 Kargopol_Russian 6.55
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 6.74
10 South_Polish 7.67
11 Lithuanian 7.94
12 Erzya 8.32
13 Estonian 9.36
14 East_Finnish 11.16
15 Finnish 11.53
16 Croatian 12.46
17 Southwest_Finnish 13.75
18 Moldavian 14.87
19 Hungarian 16.65
20 East_German 18.27
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 69.2% Southwest_Russian + 30.8% Estonian_Polish @ 2.52
2 99.4% Southwest_Russian + 0.6% Papuan @ 2.7
3 91% Southwest_Russian + 9% Lithuanian @ 2.7
4 89% Southwest_Russian + 11% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.7
5 99.1% Southwest_Russian + 0.9% Austroasiatic_Ho @ 2.71
6 99.2% Southwest_Russian + 0.8% Chamar @ 2.72
7 99.3% Southwest_Russian + 0.7% NAN_Melanesian @ 2.72
8 98.6% Southwest_Russian + 1.4% MA-1 @ 2.73
9 99.2% Southwest_Russian + 0.8% Sakilli @ 2.73
10 99.2% Southwest_Russian + 0.8% North_Kannadi @ 2.74
11 99.3% Southwest_Russian + 0.7% Chenchu @ 2.74
12 99% Southwest_Russian + 1% Sardinian @ 2.75
13 99.3% Southwest_Russian + 0.7% Kol @ 2.75
14 99.4% Southwest_Russian + 0.6% Piramalai @ 2.75
15 99.3% Southwest_Russian + 0.7% Uttar_Pradesh @ 2.75
16 99.4% Southwest_Russian + 0.6% Dusadh @ 2.76
17 89.5% Southwest_Russian + 10.5% Belorussian @ 2.76
18 90.5% Southwest_Russian + 9.5% Ukrainian @ 2.76
19 87% Southwest_Russian + 13% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.76
20 99.4% Southwest_Russian + 0.6% Kanjar @ 2.76
35) Найчастіше - на Придніпров'ї
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 49.67
2 North_Atlantic 26.43
3 West_Med 7.89
4 West_Asian 6.9
5 East_Med 4.98
6 Siberian 2.02
7 South_Asian 1.53
8 Oceanian 0.58
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Southwest_Russian 2.8
2 Russian_Smolensk 3.18
3 Ukrainian_Belgorod 3.24
4 Estonian_Polish 3.49
5 Belorussian 4.02
6 Lithuanian 6.12
7 Polish 6.32
8 Kargopol_Russian 6.44
9 Ukrainian 6.92
10 Erzya 7.73
11 Ukrainian_Lviv 8.17
12 Estonian 8.2
13 South_Polish 8.41
14 East_Finnish 10.38
15 Finnish 10.59
16 Southwest_Finnish 13.41
17 Croatian 14.23
18 Moldavian 16.71
19 Hungarian 17.98
20 La_Brana-1 19.11
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 72% Southwest_Russian + 28% Lithuanian @ 1.6
2 68.8% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 31.2% Lithuanian @ 1.86
3 91.4% Lithuanian + 8.6% Armenian @ 2.04
4 90.1% Lithuanian + 9.9% Turkish @ 2.05
5 91.4% Lithuanian + 8.6% Assyrian @ 2.14
6 91.3% Lithuanian + 8.7% Georgian_Jewish @ 2.16
7 53.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 46.8% Estonian_Polish @ 2.17
8 90.5% Lithuanian + 9.5% Azeri @ 2.18
9 76.5% Russian_Smolensk + 23.5% Erzya @ 2.21
10 58.7% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 41.3% Belorussian @ 2.22
11 77.4% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 22.6% Estonian @ 2.27
12 91.1% Lithuanian + 8.9% Kurdish @ 2.28
13 91.6% Lithuanian + 8.4% Iranian_Jewish @ 2.33
14 91.7% Lithuanian + 8.3% Kurdish_Jewish @ 2.34
15 58.4% Southwest_Russian + 41.6% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.34
16 83.8% Southwest_Russian + 16.2% Estonian @ 2.35
17 68.5% Southwest_Russian + 31.5% Belorussian @ 2.36
18 82.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 17.8% East_Finnish @ 2.39
19 63.8% Southwest_Russian + 36.2% Estonian_Polish @ 2.4
20 91.2% Lithuanian + 8.8% Iranian @ 2.42
36) Найчастіше - на Придніпров'ї
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 40.34
2 North_Atlantic 29.06
3 West_Med 11.94
4 East_Med 6.64
5 West_Asian 4.55
6 Red_Sea 2.75
7 Siberian 2.57
8 Amerindian 0.93
9 Oceanian 0.85
10 East_Asian 0.22
11 Sub-Saharan 0.15
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Ukrainian_Lviv 3.7
2 South_Polish 4.26
3 Ukrainian 4.61
4 Polish 6.32
5 Croatian 6.66
6 Southwest_Russian 8.07
7 Russian_Smolensk 8.61
8 Estonian_Polish 8.83
9 Ukrainian_Belgorod 9.08
10 Belorussian 9.35
11 Hungarian 9.44
12 Moldavian 9.73
13 East_German 11.1
14 Kargopol_Russian 11.41
15 Southwest_Finnish 11.49
16 Estonian 12.4
17 Austrian 12.58
18 Finnish 12.67
19 Lithuanian 13.82
20 East_Finnish 13.92
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 75.3% Estonian + 24.7% West_Sicilian @ 2.29
2 75.7% Estonian + 24.3% East_Sicilian @ 2.36
3 68.8% Croatian + 31.2% East_Finnish @ 2.37
4 71% Estonian + 29% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.4
5 66.7% Croatian + 33.3% Finnish @ 2.41
6 79.5% Southwest_Russian + 20.5% Spanish_Galicia @ 2.47
7 77.2% Estonian + 22.8% South_Italian @ 2.48
8 75.2% Estonian + 24.8% Central_Greek @ 2.49
9 55.1% Estonian + 44.9% Serbian @ 2.49
10 82.2% Southwest_Russian + 17.8% Spanish_Aragon @ 2.5
11 80.8% Southwest_Russian + 19.2% Spanish_Cantabria @ 2.5
12 80.3% Southwest_Russian + 19.7% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 2.52
13 78.2% Estonian_Polish + 21.8% North_Italian @ 2.54
14 79.1% Estonian_Polish + 20.9% Spanish_Extremadura @ 2.55
15 80.4% Southwest_Russian + 19.6% Southwest_French @ 2.57
16 78.2% Estonian_Polish + 21.8% Portuguese @ 2.6
17 81.4% Southwest_Russian + 18.6% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 2.62
18 61% Estonian + 39% Romanian @ 2.63
19 79.8% Southwest_Russian + 20.2% Portuguese @ 2.63
20 79.1% Estonian + 20.9% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.67
Ion Basescul
09-06-2020, 08:53 PM
Going by surnames only and flooding the thread with random results makes no sense. Russia is full of Ukrainian surnames, so what? A lot of those people might have a father or grandfather from Ukraine and also married women would normally have their husbands' last names. My surname is from Central/Western Belarus for example but my mother is Northeastern Russian.
At least I'm not cherrypicking to make all Ukrainians look like Russians ;)
We are like brothers. Evil laughter!!!
K3
1 W_Eurasian 95.34
2 E_Eurasian 4.27
Finished reading population data. 129 populations found.
3 components mode.
--------------------------------
Least-squares method.
Using 1 population approximation:
1 Ukrainian @ 0.494369
2 Belarusian @ 0.810557
3 Georgian @ 1.073763
4 Lithuanian @ 1.192661
5 Hungarian @ 1.279500
6 Estonian @ 1.403322
7 Bulgarian @ 1.665188
8 Abkhasian @ 1.807273
9 Norwegian @ 2.201757
10 Armenian @ 2.219446
11 Loschbour @ 2.388139
12 Czech @ 2.542570
13 Croatian @ 2.613880
14 Georgian_Jew @ 2.677744
15 Albanian @ 3.220294
16 Assyrian @ 3.281794
17 Iranian_Jew @ 3.327945
18 French @ 3.381817
19 Greek @ 3.397692
20 Ashkenazi_Jew @ 3.757421
Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Abkhasian +50% Bulgarian @ 0.000000
2 50% Abkhasian +50% Hungarian @ 0.000000
3 50% Abkhasian +50% Norwegian @ 0.000000
4 50% Belarusian +50% Georgian @ 0.000000
5 50% Bergamo +50% Chechen @ 0.000000
6 50% Bulgarian +50% Estonian @ 0.000000
7 50% Chechen +50% French_South @ 0.000000
8 50% Bulgarian +50% Loschbour @ 0.273491
9 50% Abkhasian +50% Czech @ 0.293030
10 50% Abkhasian +50% Lithuanian @ 0.303841
11 50% Abkhasian +50% Croatian @ 0.308281
12 50% Estonian +50% Georgian @ 0.328163
13 50% Adygei +50% Stuttgart @ 0.328391
14 50% Estonian +50% Hungarian @ 0.348678
15 50% Czech +50% Loschbour @ 0.370978
16 50% Georgian +50% Ukrainian @ 0.408961
17 50% Greek +50% Loschbour @ 0.415959
18 50% Albanian +50% Loschbour @ 0.429044
19 50% Croatian +50% Loschbour @ 0.429645
20 50% Chechen +50% LBK_EN @ 0.431104
I already asked you not to quote me. Do I need to remind you again? Also you have nothing to do with Russians or Ukrainians, neither culturally nor genetically, so stop trying to pick on me or Russians.
Slavic Italian
09-06-2020, 08:57 PM
I already asked you not to quote me. Do I need to remind you again? Also you have nothing to do with Russians or Ukrainians, neither culturally nor genetically, so stop trying to pick on me or Russians.
Sure I do genetically. I've shown that many times. Quit being a pansy ass. It's not attractive.
At least I'm not cherrypicking to make all Ukrainians look like Russians ;)
I don't do that either. My opinion on history and politics does not matter. I posted only people with known genealogy, not based on guesswork. Stick to Romanians and Moldovans please and don't try causing a controversy.
Ion Basescul
09-06-2020, 08:57 PM
37) Найчастіше - на Придніпров'ї
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 46.4
2 North_Atlantic 25.75
3 West_Med 11.39
4 West_Asian 5.96
5 East_Med 3.65
6 Red_Sea 2.86
7 Siberian 1.77
8 Oceanian 1.4
9 Amerindian 0.58
10 South_Asian 0.26
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Russian_Smolensk 4.28
2 Southwest_Russian 4.6
3 Ukrainian 4.78
4 Estonian_Polish 4.83
5 Ukrainian_Lviv 4.92
6 Polish 5.08
7 Ukrainian_Belgorod 5.28
8 Belorussian 6.13
9 South_Polish 6.91
10 Kargopol_Russian 7.74
11 Lithuanian 8.94
12 Erzya 9.75
13 Estonian 9.91
14 Croatian 11.25
15 Finnish 11.91
16 East_Finnish 11.95
17 Southwest_Finnish 13.39
18 Moldavian 13.76
19 Hungarian 15.62
20 East_German 16.83
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 68.1% Ukrainian_Lviv + 31.9% Lithuanian @ 2.92
2 50.7% Estonian_Polish + 49.3% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.04
3 56.3% Russian_Smolensk + 43.7% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.06
4 95% Russian_Smolensk + 5% Sardinian @ 3.06
5 61.5% Lithuanian + 38.5% Moldavian @ 3.14
6 95% Russian_Smolensk + 5% Moroccan @ 3.2
7 82.8% Russian_Smolensk + 17.2% Moldavian @ 3.26
8 95.1% Russian_Smolensk + 4.9% Mozabite_Berber @ 3.29
9 95.2% Russian_Smolensk + 4.8% Tunisian @ 3.34
10 95.2% Russian_Smolensk + 4.8% Algerian @ 3.34
11 79.5% Estonian_Polish + 20.5% Moldavian @ 3.39
12 94.2% Russian_Smolensk + 5.8% Central_Greek @ 3.44
13 94.3% Russian_Smolensk + 5.7% East_Sicilian @ 3.45
14 93.1% Russian_Smolensk + 6.9% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.45
15 95.2% Russian_Smolensk + 4.8% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.45
16 80.9% Russian_Smolensk + 19.1% Croatian @ 3.45
17 56.7% Russian_Smolensk + 43.3% Ukrainian @ 3.47
18 91.1% Russian_Smolensk + 8.9% Bulgarian @ 3.47
19 94.8% Russian_Smolensk + 5.2% South_Italian @ 3.47
20 94.5% Russian_Smolensk + 5.5% West_Sicilian @ 3.5
38) Найчастіше - на Придніпров'ї
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 45.43
2 North_Atlantic 25
3 West_Med 11.92
4 East_Med 8.18
5 West_Asian 4.55
6 Northeast_African 1.77
7 Amerindian 1.41
8 South_Asian 0.97
9 Siberian 0.39
10 Oceanian 0.37
11 Sub-Saharan 0.01
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Ukrainian 4.53
2 Southwest_Russian 5.24
3 Ukrainian_Lviv 5.78
4 Ukrainian_Belgorod 6.35
5 Estonian_Polish 6.47
6 Polish 6.53
7 Russian_Smolensk 6.75
8 South_Polish 6.76
9 Belorussian 7.58
10 Croatian 9.59
11 Kargopol_Russian 10.07
12 Lithuanian 11.08
13 Erzya 11.73
14 Estonian 12.21
15 Moldavian 12.23
16 Finnish 14.19
17 Hungarian 14.25
18 East_Finnish 14.55
19 Southwest_Finnish 14.99
20 East_German 16.36
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 81.8% Lithuanian + 18.2% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.25
2 75.1% Lithuanian + 24.9% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.32
3 93.2% Southwest_Russian + 6.8% Sardinian @ 3.42
4 68.7% Lithuanian + 31.3% Bulgarian @ 3.46
5 82% Lithuanian + 18% Italian_Jewish @ 3.48
6 89.7% Estonian_Polish + 10.3% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.49
7 80.9% Estonian_Polish + 19.1% Bulgarian @ 3.5
8 85.4% Estonian_Polish + 14.6% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.5
9 79.4% Lithuanian + 20.6% Ashkenazi @ 3.5
10 80.5% Lithuanian + 19.5% South_Italian @ 3.52
11 79.2% Lithuanian + 20.8% East_Sicilian @ 3.53
12 88.1% Estonian_Polish + 11.9% East_Sicilian @ 3.6
13 89% Estonian_Polish + 11% South_Italian @ 3.61
14 88.3% Estonian_Polish + 11.7% Ashkenazi @ 3.61
15 87.9% Estonian_Polish + 12.1% Central_Greek @ 3.61
16 78.8% Lithuanian + 21.2% Central_Greek @ 3.62
17 89.9% Estonian_Polish + 10.1% Italian_Jewish @ 3.62
18 90.8% Estonian_Polish + 9.2% Cyprian @ 3.63
19 90.5% Estonian_Polish + 9.5% Libyan_Jewish @ 3.68
20 79.2% Lithuanian + 20.8% West_Sicilian @ 3.7
39) Найчастіше - на Запорожжі
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 49.75
2 North_Atlantic 27.17
3 East_Med 7.81
4 West_Med 5.06
5 Siberian 2.7
6 Red_Sea 2.59
7 West_Asian 2.41
8 Oceanian 1.01
9 South_Asian 0.74
10 Northeast_African 0.62
11 Amerindian 0.14
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Belorussian 4.54
2 Estonian_Polish 5.23
3 Southwest_Russian 6.01
4 Russian_Smolensk 6.26
5 Ukrainian_Belgorod 7.43
6 Lithuanian 7.65
7 Polish 8.61
8 Estonian 8.66
9 Kargopol_Russian 8.7
10 Ukrainian 9.66
11 East_Finnish 9.67
12 Finnish 9.95
13 Erzya 10
14 South_Polish 10.45
15 Ukrainian_Lviv 10.62
16 Southwest_Finnish 13.15
17 Croatian 15.89
18 La_Brana-1 17.85
19 Moldavian 18.47
20 Hungarian 18.81
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 91% Lithuanian + 9% Yemenite_Jewish @ 3.78
2 96.7% Belorussian + 3.3% Yemenite_Jewish @ 3.89
3 96.9% Belorussian + 3.1% Saudi @ 4.01
4 93.7% Belorussian + 6.3% Mari @ 4.09
5 92.5% Belorussian + 7.5% Chuvash @ 4.13
6 97.3% Belorussian + 2.7% Selkup @ 4.14
7 97.3% Belorussian + 2.7% Ket @ 4.16
8 97.1% Belorussian + 2.9% Egyptian @ 4.17
9 97.7% Belorussian + 2.3% Ethiopian_Tigray @ 4.19
10 97.7% Belorussian + 2.3% Ethiopian_Amhara @ 4.19
11 97.2% Belorussian + 2.8% Bedouin @ 4.2
12 97.3% Belorussian + 2.7% Palestinian @ 4.22
13 98.1% Belorussian + 1.9% Dolgan @ 4.22
14 98.2% Belorussian + 1.8% Evenki @ 4.22
15 98.3% Belorussian + 1.7% Evens @ 4.23
16 97.4% Belorussian + 2.6% Jordanian @ 4.25
17 98.1% Belorussian + 1.9% Koryak @ 4.25
18 98.2% Belorussian + 1.8% Yakut @ 4.25
19 97.5% Belorussian + 2.5% Lebanese_Druze @ 4.25
20 98.2% Belorussian + 1.8% Chukchi @ 4.27
40) Найчастіше - на Запорожжі
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 42.15
2 North_Atlantic 29.83
3 West_Med 13.28
4 West_Asian 8.56
5 East_Med 2.62
6 Amerindian 1.88
7 South_Asian 0.92
8 Oceanian 0.72
9 Sub-Saharan 0.05
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Ukrainian_Lviv 4.4
2 Ukrainian 4.71
3 South_Polish 4.79
4 Polish 5.24
5 Russian_Smolensk 7.96
6 Ukrainian_Belgorod 8.24
7 Southwest_Russian 8.43
8 Croatian 8.56
9 Estonian_Polish 9.02
10 Belorussian 9.8
11 Kargopol_Russian 11.53
12 Moldavian 11.56
13 Hungarian 11.76
14 East_German 11.88
15 Estonian 11.91
16 Southwest_Finnish 12.31
17 Lithuanian 12.63
18 Finnish 13.49
19 Austrian 13.84
20 Erzya 14.39
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 85.3% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 14.7% French_Basque @ 3.48
2 93.5% Polish + 6.5% Ossetian @ 3.83
3 93.2% Polish + 6.8% Balkar @ 3.89
4 90.5% Ukrainian + 9.5% Irish @ 3.9
5 90.6% Ukrainian_Lviv + 9.4% Swedish @ 3.92
6 91.8% Ukrainian_Lviv + 8.2% Norwegian @ 3.92
7 92.7% Ukrainian_Lviv + 7.3% Irish @ 3.93
8 93.1% Polish + 6.9% Kabardin @ 3.96
9 94.3% Polish + 5.7% Georgian @ 3.96
10 76% Polish + 24% Moldavian @ 3.97
11 91.2% Ukrainian + 8.8% West_Scottish @ 3.98
12 93.6% Polish + 6.4% North_Ossetian @ 3.98
13 94.6% Polish + 5.4% Abhkasian @ 3.98
14 93.3% Ukrainian_Lviv + 6.7% West_Scottish @ 3.98
15 92.6% Ukrainian_Lviv + 7.4% North_Dutch @ 4
16 91.4% Ukrainian + 8.6% Southwest_English @ 4.01
17 93.1% Ukrainian_Lviv + 6.9% Orcadian @ 4.01
18 93.5% Polish + 6.5% Adygei @ 4.01
19 90% Ukrainian + 10% Norwegian @ 4.01
20 69.2% Polish + 30.8% Croatian @ 4.02
Slavic Italian
09-06-2020, 08:59 PM
don't try causing a controversy.
You should take your own advice.
Ion Basescul
09-06-2020, 09:02 PM
41) Найчастіше - на Причорномор'ї
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 42.35
2 North_Atlantic 28.41
3 West_Med 9.56
4 East_Med 7.04
5 West_Asian 6.71
6 Amerindian 1.65
7 South_Asian 1.23
8 Red_Sea 1.22
9 Siberian 1.13
10 Sub-Saharan 0.44
11 East_Asian 0.25
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Ukrainian_Lviv 3.22
2 South_Polish 3.25
3 Ukrainian 3.31
4 Polish 4.76
5 Southwest_Russian 5.28
6 Ukrainian_Belgorod 5.81
7 Russian_Smolensk 6.39
8 Estonian_Polish 6.98
9 Belorussian 7.44
10 Croatian 7.71
11 Kargopol_Russian 9.98
12 Moldavian 10.66
13 Hungarian 10.87
14 Estonian 11.27
15 Lithuanian 11.81
16 Southwest_Finnish 11.85
17 Finnish 12.14
18 Erzya 12.43
19 East_German 12.86
20 East_Finnish 13.4
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 68% Southwest_Russian + 32% Hungarian @ 1.53
2 84.2% Southwest_Russian + 15.8% French @ 1.54
3 74% Southwest_Russian + 26% Austrian @ 1.61
4 81.7% Southwest_Russian + 18.3% West_German @ 1.71
5 92.8% Polish + 7.2% Lebanese_Druze @ 1.79
6 82.5% Southwest_Russian + 17.5% South_Dutch @ 1.81
7 72% Southwest_Russian + 28% East_German @ 1.82
8 92.9% Polish + 7.1% Iranian_Jewish @ 1.86
9 87% Southwest_Russian + 13% Spanish_Cataluna @ 1.89
10 87.3% Southwest_Russian + 12.7% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 1.9
11 87.7% Southwest_Russian + 12.3% Spanish_Murcia @ 1.91
12 93% Polish + 7% Kurdish_Jewish @ 1.92
13 87.6% Southwest_Russian + 12.4% Spanish_Extremadura @ 1.92
14 87% Southwest_Russian + 13% Portuguese @ 1.95
15 92.8% Polish + 7.2% Assyrian @ 1.95
16 66.1% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 33.9% Hungarian @ 1.95
17 86.9% Southwest_Russian + 13.1% Spanish_Galicia @ 1.96
18 88.1% Southwest_Russian + 11.9% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 1.97
19 83.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 16.8% French @ 1.99
20 88.7% Southwest_Russian + 11.3% Spanish_Aragon @ 2.01
42) Найчастіше - на Галичині
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 41.05
2 North_Atlantic 24.43
3 West_Med 13.32
4 East_Med 9.04
5 West_Asian 4.95
6 Red_Sea 1.92
7 Siberian 1.82
8 South_Asian 1.45
9 Northeast_African 0.91
10 Oceanian 0.87
11 Amerindian 0.25
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Ukrainian_Lviv 4.9
2 Ukrainian 5.43
3 Croatian 6.08
4 South_Polish 6.82
5 Southwest_Russian 8
6 Moldavian 8.17
7 Polish 8.63
8 Ukrainian_Belgorod 8.98
9 Russian_Smolensk 9.67
10 Estonian_Polish 9.73
11 Belorussian 10.7
12 Hungarian 11.21
13 Kargopol_Russian 12
14 Erzya 13.76
15 East_German 14.13
16 Serbian 14.43
17 Lithuanian 14.87
18 Estonian 15.05
19 Austrian 15.21
20 Southwest_Finnish 15.85
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 86.8% Southwest_Russian + 13.2% Sardinian @ 2.25
2 74.7% Estonian_Polish + 25.3% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.47
3 82.3% Estonian_Polish + 17.7% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.54
4 79.3% Estonian_Polish + 20.7% East_Sicilian @ 2.59
5 80.8% Estonian_Polish + 19.2% South_Italian @ 2.67
6 78.9% Estonian_Polish + 21.1% Central_Greek @ 2.7
7 79.2% Estonian_Polish + 20.8% West_Sicilian @ 2.73
8 93% Ukrainian + 7% Yemenite_Jewish @ 2.73
9 91.9% Ukrainian + 8.1% Egyptian @ 2.76
10 67.4% Estonian_Polish + 32.6% Bulgarian @ 2.8
11 65.6% Lithuanian + 34.4% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.84
12 91.9% Ukrainian + 8.1% Bedouin @ 2.88
13 91.1% Ukrainian + 8.9% Tunisian @ 2.91
14 82.6% Estonian_Polish + 17.4% Italian_Jewish @ 2.91
15 75% Lithuanian + 25% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.91
16 92.9% Ukrainian + 7.1% Saudi @ 2.95
17 92.2% Ukrainian + 7.8% Samaritan @ 2.97
18 91.3% Ukrainian + 8.7% Moroccan @ 2.99
19 91.2% Ukrainian + 8.8% Algerian @ 3.03
20 91.3% Ukrainian + 8.7% Libyan_Jewish @ 3.03
43) Найчастіше - на Запорожжі
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 45.37
2 North_Atlantic 24.29
3 West_Med 10.64
4 East_Med 9.68
5 West_Asian 6.26
6 East_Asian 1.8
7 Amerindian 1.04
8 Siberian 0.92
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Southwest_Russian 4.87
2 Ukrainian 5.21
3 Ukrainian_Belgorod 5.58
4 Ukrainian_Lviv 6.32
5 South_Polish 7.24
6 Russian_Smolensk 7.37
7 Estonian_Polish 7.38
8 Polish 7.78
9 Belorussian 8.17
10 Croatian 9.7
11 Kargopol_Russian 10.39
12 Erzya 11.24
13 Moldavian 11.85
14 Lithuanian 11.89
15 Estonian 13.14
16 Hungarian 14.31
17 Finnish 14.69
18 East_Finnish 14.94
19 Southwest_Finnish 15.85
20 East_German 17.07
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 92.9% Southwest_Russian + 7.1% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.3
2 91.7% Southwest_Russian + 8.3% Ashkenazi @ 3.3
3 86.3% Southwest_Russian + 13.7% Bulgarian @ 3.32
4 93% Southwest_Russian + 7% Italian_Jewish @ 3.33
5 89.8% Southwest_Russian + 10.2% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.34
6 81.9% Lithuanian + 18.1% Cyprian @ 3.4
7 91.6% Southwest_Russian + 8.4% Central_Greek @ 3.41
8 93.7% Southwest_Russian + 6.3% Cyprian @ 3.42
9 92.5% Southwest_Russian + 7.5% South_Italian @ 3.42
10 91.9% Southwest_Russian + 8.1% East_Sicilian @ 3.44
11 92% Southwest_Russian + 8% West_Sicilian @ 3.47
12 93.6% Southwest_Russian + 6.4% Tunisian_Jewish @ 3.49
13 94.2% Southwest_Russian + 5.8% Sardinian @ 3.49
14 93.3% Southwest_Russian + 6.7% Sephardic_Jewish @ 3.5
15 93.7% Southwest_Russian + 6.3% Libyan_Jewish @ 3.51
16 94.5% Southwest_Russian + 5.5% Lebanese_Christian @ 3.52
17 94.4% Southwest_Russian + 5.6% Samaritan @ 3.53
18 86.3% Southwest_Russian + 13.7% Romanian @ 3.55
19 77.8% Lithuanian + 22.2% Ashkenazi @ 3.57
20 88.9% Estonian_Polish + 11.1% Cyprian @ 3.58
44) Найчастіше - на Поділлі
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 40.09
2 North_Atlantic 28.19
3 West_Med 13.15
4 West_Asian 8.1
5 East_Med 5.78
6 Siberian 1.79
7 Red_Sea 0.92
8 South_Asian 0.87
9 Northeast_African 0.57
10 Amerindian 0.54
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Ukrainian_Lviv 2.75
2 South_Polish 3.85
3 Ukrainian 3.94
4 Croatian 5.25
5 Polish 6.62
6 Southwest_Russian 8.1
7 Moldavian 8.19
8 Ukrainian_Belgorod 8.37
9 Russian_Smolensk 8.94
10 Hungarian 9.18
11 Estonian_Polish 9.69
12 Belorussian 10.44
13 East_German 10.95
14 Kargopol_Russian 11.66
15 Austrian 12.38
16 Southwest_Finnish 13.2
17 Estonian 13.62
18 Erzya 14.16
19 Finnish 14.32
20 Lithuanian 14.39
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 79.4% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 20.6% Southwest_French @ 1.82
2 94.4% Ukrainian_Lviv + 5.6% Spanish_Andalucia @ 1.87
3 94.4% Ukrainian_Lviv + 5.6% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 1.91
4 82% Ukrainian_Lviv + 18% Hungarian @ 1.92
5 94% Ukrainian_Lviv + 6% Spanish_Cataluna @ 1.93
6 93.9% Ukrainian_Lviv + 6.1% North_Italian @ 1.94
7 55.7% Polish + 44.3% Moldavian @ 1.94
8 86.3% Ukrainian_Lviv + 13.7% Austrian @ 1.95
9 94.2% Ukrainian_Lviv + 5.8% Southwest_French @ 1.95
10 94.4% Ukrainian_Lviv + 5.6% Spanish_Valencia @ 1.95
11 79.8% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 20.2% Spanish_Cantabria @ 1.95
12 94.8% Ukrainian_Lviv + 5.2% Spanish_Aragon @ 1.95
13 94.4% Ukrainian_Lviv + 5.6% Spanish_Murcia @ 1.95
14 94.4% Ukrainian_Lviv + 5.6% Spanish_Cantabria @ 1.96
15 94.4% Ukrainian_Lviv + 5.6% Spanish_Extremadura @ 1.97
16 94.2% Ukrainian_Lviv + 5.8% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 1.97
17 71.8% Ukrainian_Lviv + 28.2% Croatian @ 1.97
18 94.1% Ukrainian_Lviv + 5.9% Portuguese @ 1.99
19 92.9% Ukrainian_Lviv + 7.1% French @ 1.99
20 95.8% Ukrainian_Lviv + 4.2% French_Basque @ 1.99
Ion Basescul
09-06-2020, 09:05 PM
That's it from me, smd555. Mostly Eastern to Central Ukrainians from around Southern Dnepr, but also with the occasional samples from the West and the border with Russia.
Ion Basescul
09-06-2020, 09:12 PM
I don't do that either. My opinion on history and politics does not matter. I posted only people with known genealogy, not based on guesswork. Stick to Romanians and Moldovans please and don't try causing a controversy.
I mean, I can easily start taking this seriously, but I'm simply not interested at the moment. That's why I went with the quantity here.
All the 10 Ivano-Frankivsk samples that I've made the average of for K13 are confirmed from there.
Ion Basescul
09-14-2020, 10:32 AM
Didn't find a better thread, so I'll post this here.
Belarusian from Minsk
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 43.85
2 North_Atlantic 25.32
3 West_Med 11.99
4 East_Med 8.96
5 Siberian 3.66
6 West_Asian 2.52
7 South_Asian 2.41
8 Oceanian 0.81
9 Sub-Saharan 0.47
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Ukrainian 5.58
2 Ukrainian_Lviv 6.51
3 Southwest_Russian 6.71
4 South_Polish 7.23
5 Estonian_Polish 7.74
6 Polish 8.17
7 Russian_Smolensk 8.44
8 Ukrainian_Belgorod 8.46
9 Belorussian 8.66
10 Croatian 9.67
11 Kargopol_Russian 9.71
12 Erzya 11.82
13 Moldavian 11.88
14 Estonian 12.54
15 Lithuanian 12.69
16 East_Finnish 13.33
17 Finnish 13.46
18 Hungarian 13.62
19 Southwest_Finnish 14.16
20 East_German 15.83
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 87.7% Estonian_Polish + 12.3% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.19
2 85.9% Estonian_Polish + 14.1% Ashkenazi @ 4.25
3 91.1% Southwest_Russian + 8.9% Sardinian @ 4.26
4 87.9% Estonian_Polish + 12.1% Italian_Jewish @ 4.32
5 82.9% Estonian_Polish + 17.1% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.38
6 85.9% Estonian_Polish + 14.1% West_Sicilian @ 4.42
7 87% Estonian_Polish + 13% South_Italian @ 4.49
8 89.4% Estonian_Polish + 10.6% Sardinian @ 4.53
9 86.2% Estonian_Polish + 13.8% East_Sicilian @ 4.54
10 88.3% Estonian_Polish + 11.7% Sephardic_Jewish @ 4.54
11 88.9% Estonian_Polish + 11.1% Tunisian_Jewish @ 4.58
12 85.9% Estonian_Polish + 14.1% Central_Greek @ 4.59
13 78.2% Estonian_Polish + 21.8% Bulgarian @ 4.59
14 88.9% Estonian_Polish + 11.1% Libyan_Jewish @ 4.61
15 85% Estonian_Polish + 15% Tuscan @ 4.63
16 89.4% Estonian_Polish + 10.6% Cyprian @ 4.72
17 77.1% Estonian_Polish + 22.9% Romanian @ 4.74
18 89.1% Estonian_Polish + 10.9% Tunisian @ 4.76
19 88% Belorussian + 12% Sardinian @ 4.79
20 86.1% Estonian_Polish + 13.9% Italian_Abruzzo @ 4.82
smd555
09-14-2020, 11:21 AM
Didn't find a better thread, so I'll post this here.
Belarusian from Minsk
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 43.85
2 North_Atlantic 25.32
3 West_Med 11.99
4 East_Med 8.96
5 Siberian 3.66
6 West_Asian 2.52
7 South_Asian 2.41
8 Oceanian 0.81
9 Sub-Saharan 0.47
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Ukrainian 5.58
2 Ukrainian_Lviv 6.51
3 Southwest_Russian 6.71
4 South_Polish 7.23
5 Estonian_Polish 7.74
6 Polish 8.17
7 Russian_Smolensk 8.44
8 Ukrainian_Belgorod 8.46
9 Belorussian 8.66
10 Croatian 9.67
11 Kargopol_Russian 9.71
12 Erzya 11.82
13 Moldavian 11.88
14 Estonian 12.54
15 Lithuanian 12.69
16 East_Finnish 13.33
17 Finnish 13.46
18 Hungarian 13.62
19 Southwest_Finnish 14.16
20 East_German 15.83
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 87.7% Estonian_Polish + 12.3% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.19
2 85.9% Estonian_Polish + 14.1% Ashkenazi @ 4.25
3 91.1% Southwest_Russian + 8.9% Sardinian @ 4.26
4 87.9% Estonian_Polish + 12.1% Italian_Jewish @ 4.32
5 82.9% Estonian_Polish + 17.1% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.38
6 85.9% Estonian_Polish + 14.1% West_Sicilian @ 4.42
7 87% Estonian_Polish + 13% South_Italian @ 4.49
8 89.4% Estonian_Polish + 10.6% Sardinian @ 4.53
9 86.2% Estonian_Polish + 13.8% East_Sicilian @ 4.54
10 88.3% Estonian_Polish + 11.7% Sephardic_Jewish @ 4.54
11 88.9% Estonian_Polish + 11.1% Tunisian_Jewish @ 4.58
12 85.9% Estonian_Polish + 14.1% Central_Greek @ 4.59
13 78.2% Estonian_Polish + 21.8% Bulgarian @ 4.59
14 88.9% Estonian_Polish + 11.1% Libyan_Jewish @ 4.61
15 85% Estonian_Polish + 15% Tuscan @ 4.63
16 89.4% Estonian_Polish + 10.6% Cyprian @ 4.72
17 77.1% Estonian_Polish + 22.9% Romanian @ 4.74
18 89.1% Estonian_Polish + 10.9% Tunisian @ 4.76
19 88% Belorussian + 12% Sardinian @ 4.79
20 86.1% Estonian_Polish + 13.9% Italian_Abruzzo @ 4.82
Interesting. Rather high Siberian and rather low Baltic components as for central Belarussians. Can he be from Cuman volost?: https://history.wikireading.ru/277538
Didn't find a better thread, so I'll post this here.
Belarusian from Minsk
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 43.85
2 North_Atlantic 25.32
3 West_Med 11.99
4 East_Med 8.96
5 Siberian 3.66
6 West_Asian 2.52
7 South_Asian 2.41
8 Oceanian 0.81
9 Sub-Saharan 0.47
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Ukrainian 5.58
2 Ukrainian_Lviv 6.51
3 Southwest_Russian 6.71
4 South_Polish 7.23
5 Estonian_Polish 7.74
6 Polish 8.17
7 Russian_Smolensk 8.44
8 Ukrainian_Belgorod 8.46
9 Belorussian 8.66
10 Croatian 9.67
11 Kargopol_Russian 9.71
12 Erzya 11.82
13 Moldavian 11.88
14 Estonian 12.54
15 Lithuanian 12.69
16 East_Finnish 13.33
17 Finnish 13.46
18 Hungarian 13.62
19 Southwest_Finnish 14.16
20 East_German 15.83
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 87.7% Estonian_Polish + 12.3% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.19
2 85.9% Estonian_Polish + 14.1% Ashkenazi @ 4.25
3 91.1% Southwest_Russian + 8.9% Sardinian @ 4.26
4 87.9% Estonian_Polish + 12.1% Italian_Jewish @ 4.32
5 82.9% Estonian_Polish + 17.1% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.38
6 85.9% Estonian_Polish + 14.1% West_Sicilian @ 4.42
7 87% Estonian_Polish + 13% South_Italian @ 4.49
8 89.4% Estonian_Polish + 10.6% Sardinian @ 4.53
9 86.2% Estonian_Polish + 13.8% East_Sicilian @ 4.54
10 88.3% Estonian_Polish + 11.7% Sephardic_Jewish @ 4.54
11 88.9% Estonian_Polish + 11.1% Tunisian_Jewish @ 4.58
12 85.9% Estonian_Polish + 14.1% Central_Greek @ 4.59
13 78.2% Estonian_Polish + 21.8% Bulgarian @ 4.59
14 88.9% Estonian_Polish + 11.1% Libyan_Jewish @ 4.61
15 85% Estonian_Polish + 15% Tuscan @ 4.63
16 89.4% Estonian_Polish + 10.6% Cyprian @ 4.72
17 77.1% Estonian_Polish + 22.9% Romanian @ 4.74
18 89.1% Estonian_Polish + 10.9% Tunisian @ 4.76
19 88% Belorussian + 12% Sardinian @ 4.79
20 86.1% Estonian_Polish + 13.9% Italian_Abruzzo @ 4.82
Looks (partly) non-local. Belarus had a million Russians (people from Russia proper) coming there to settle, especially after WW2 and in the subsequent decades. Also a sizeable number of Ukrainians. In the capital Minsk such people were especially common. According to the brand new census of 2019 self-reported Russians still make up 7.5% of the population, although recent ancestry from Russia proper is likely even more common.
DedPerded
09-15-2020, 09:31 AM
Belarusians and ukrainians are very symmetrical in genetics. I saw the ukrainians, who were shown the belarusians in the first places. Muscovites already have genetics identical to me))
Ion Basescul
12-03-2020, 08:07 PM
Ukrainian from Ivano-Frankivsk
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 39.5
2 North_Atlantic 25.9
3 West_Med 14.37
4 East_Med 9.86
5 West_Asian 5.55
6 Amerindian 1.42
7 Siberian 1.38
8 South_Asian 1.3
9 Northeast_African 0.44
10 Oceanian 0.29
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Croatian 4.3
2 Ukrainian_Lviv 5.64
3 Ukrainian 5.88
4 South_Polish 6.67
5 Moldavian 6.82
6 Hungarian 9.28
7 Polish 9.33
8 Southwest_Russian 9.46
9 Ukrainian_Belgorod 10.29
10 Russian_Smolensk 11.13
11 Estonian_Polish 11.24
12 Belorussian 12.13
13 East_German 12.38
14 Serbian 12.79
15 Austrian 13.39
16 Kargopol_Russian 13.52
17 Erzya 15.54
18 Southwest_Finnish 15.92
19 Estonian 16
20 Romanian 16.22
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 84.1% Southwest_Russian + 15.9% Sardinian @ 1.94
2 88.7% Ukrainian + 11.3% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.19
3 83% Ukrainian + 17% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.27
4 88.8% Ukrainian + 11.2% Italian_Jewish @ 2.28
5 86.8% Ukrainian + 13.2% Ashkenazi @ 2.29
6 87.7% Ukrainian + 12.3% South_Italian @ 2.44
7 86.5% Ukrainian + 13.5% West_Sicilian @ 2.45
8 86.7% Ukrainian + 13.3% East_Sicilian @ 2.49
9 77% Ukrainian + 23% Bulgarian @ 2.5
10 89.7% Ukrainian + 10.3% Libyan_Jewish @ 2.54
11 86.4% Ukrainian + 13.6% Central_Greek @ 2.56
12 89.7% Ukrainian + 10.3% Tunisian_Jewish @ 2.56
13 89.1% Ukrainian + 10.9% Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.57
14 75.4% Ukrainian + 24.6% Romanian @ 2.71
15 85.5% Ukrainian + 14.5% Tuscan @ 2.74
16 90.3% Ukrainian + 9.7% Cyprian @ 2.76
17 83.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 16.8% Sardinian @ 2.83
18 86.5% Ukrainian + 13.5% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.85
19 75.9% Southwest_Russian + 24.1% North_Italian @ 2.92
20 62.1% Estonian_Polish + 37.9% Bulgarian @ 2.94
Ion Basescul
12-26-2020, 08:38 PM
Ukrainian from Mykolaiv city, haven't seen any from here so far
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 43.66
2 North_Atlantic 22.19
3 West_Med 12.21
4 West_Asian 8.53
5 East_Med 5.94
6 Siberian 3.49
7 South_Asian 2.26
8 Amerindian 1.27
9 Oceanian 0.45
10 East_Asian 0.01
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Ukrainian_Lviv 5.79
2 Ukrainian 5.89
3 Southwest_Russian 6.27
4 Ukrainian_Belgorod 6.7
5 South_Polish 8.38
6 Kargopol_Russian 8.57
7 Russian_Smolensk 8.65
8 Polish 9.01
9 Estonian_Polish 9.03
10 Erzya 9.44
11 Croatian 9.57
12 Belorussian 10.42
13 Moldavian 10.71
14 Lithuanian 13.26
15 Estonian 14.08
16 Hungarian 14.66
17 East_Finnish 14.8
18 Finnish 15.28
19 Southwest_Finnish 16.57
20 Tatar 16.77
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 53.4% Erzya + 46.6% Moldavian @ 2.5
2 50.4% Erzya + 49.6% Croatian @ 2.77
3 56.3% Kargopol_Russian + 43.7% Moldavian @ 3.41
4 79.5% Erzya + 20.5% North_Italian @ 3.48
5 70.2% Erzya + 29.8% Romanian @ 3.54
6 66.9% Erzya + 33.1% Serbian @ 3.55
7 86.1% Erzya + 13.9% Sardinian @ 3.58
8 73.9% Kargopol_Russian + 26.1% Bulgarian @ 3.58
9 71.7% Erzya + 28.3% Bulgarian @ 3.64
10 80.6% Erzya + 19.4% Tuscan @ 3.78
11 80% Kargopol_Russian + 20% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.84
12 83.1% Kargopol_Russian + 16.9% Central_Greek @ 3.9
13 73.1% Kargopol_Russian + 26.9% Romanian @ 4.01
14 78.3% Erzya + 21.7% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.07
15 84.8% Kargopol_Russian + 15.2% South_Italian @ 4.09
16 67.6% Ukrainian_Lviv + 32.4% Erzya @ 4.12
17 83.8% Kargopol_Russian + 16.2% East_Sicilian @ 4.13
18 82% Erzya + 18% Spanish_Andalucia @ 4.16
19 53.5% Kargopol_Russian + 46.5% Croatian @ 4.16
20 87.3% Kargopol_Russian + 12.7% Cyprian @ 4.2
Lucas
12-26-2020, 10:49 PM
Now it will be real national average possible:)
andrzej
03-04-2023, 09:18 PM
If you want a good proxy for southern Ukrainians use Kuban Cossack results, because they are the best representatives of the south before more recent influxes from the north and Russia. Kuban Cossacks are almost entirely Zaporizhian Cossack descendants.
Maybe from Jews, who were many in Odessa.
I don't get why this is repeated on here so much, Jews were literally everywhere in urban Ukraine nothing about Odessa was special. Where my grandfather was born was 70% Jewish, so much more Jewish than Odessa. This is just used by Russians on here to explain why Russians from the area are often real dark, but the reality has to do with the fact that Odessa was founded by the descendants of Zaporizhians who were exiled from their lands. Some of those who didn't migrate to the Kuban or become state peasants ended up around the Danube - those eventually founded various cities in the south.
That's it from me, smd555. Mostly Eastern to Central Ukrainians from around Southern Dnepr, but also with the occasional samples from the West and the border with Russia.
But the problem here is you need to know the ethnic composition of this region for it to make sense, for example between west and central Poltava there is a huge different. Between western Kirovgrad and eastern Kirovgrad there's also a huge phenotypical difference. You need to know which regions are predominated by Russians etc. The surname method makes no sense, a lot of those surnames will come from the Dnieper because the Cossacks were partially formed by peasants running away from the right back of the Dnieper. But they mixed with different populations in the Steppes based also around location..
Ukrainian from Mykolaiv city, haven't seen any from here so far
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 43.66
2 North_Atlantic 22.19
3 West_Med 12.21
4 West_Asian 8.53
5 East_Med 5.94
6 Siberian 3.49
7 South_Asian 2.26
8 Amerindian 1.27
9 Oceanian 0.45
10 East_Asian 0.01
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Ukrainian_Lviv 5.79
2 Ukrainian 5.89
3 Southwest_Russian 6.27
4 Ukrainian_Belgorod 6.7
5 South_Polish 8.38
6 Kargopol_Russian 8.57
7 Russian_Smolensk 8.65
8 Polish 9.01
9 Estonian_Polish 9.03
10 Erzya 9.44
11 Croatian 9.57
12 Belorussian 10.42
13 Moldavian 10.71
14 Lithuanian 13.26
15 Estonian 14.08
16 Hungarian 14.66
17 East_Finnish 14.8
18 Finnish 15.28
19 Southwest_Finnish 16.57
20 Tatar 16.77
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 53.4% Erzya + 46.6% Moldavian @ 2.5
2 50.4% Erzya + 49.6% Croatian @ 2.77
3 56.3% Kargopol_Russian + 43.7% Moldavian @ 3.41
4 79.5% Erzya + 20.5% North_Italian @ 3.48
5 70.2% Erzya + 29.8% Romanian @ 3.54
6 66.9% Erzya + 33.1% Serbian @ 3.55
7 86.1% Erzya + 13.9% Sardinian @ 3.58
8 73.9% Kargopol_Russian + 26.1% Bulgarian @ 3.58
9 71.7% Erzya + 28.3% Bulgarian @ 3.64
10 80.6% Erzya + 19.4% Tuscan @ 3.78
11 80% Kargopol_Russian + 20% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.84
12 83.1% Kargopol_Russian + 16.9% Central_Greek @ 3.9
13 73.1% Kargopol_Russian + 26.9% Romanian @ 4.01
14 78.3% Erzya + 21.7% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.07
15 84.8% Kargopol_Russian + 15.2% South_Italian @ 4.09
16 67.6% Ukrainian_Lviv + 32.4% Erzya @ 4.12
17 83.8% Kargopol_Russian + 16.2% East_Sicilian @ 4.13
18 82% Erzya + 18% Spanish_Andalucia @ 4.16
19 53.5% Kargopol_Russian + 46.5% Croatian @ 4.16
20 87.3% Kargopol_Russian + 12.7% Cyprian @ 4.2
Now it will be real national average possible:)
Not at all, that Mykolaiv sample is clearly someone of predominately Russian ancestry. Mykolaiv is largely a mix of Cossack descendants + North Ukrainians and Russian migrants. Something more similar to the average Odessa results would work, but that's what I mean, how can someone that doesn't know the ethnic composition of Ukrainians present this? When they're presenting an ethnic Russian as a typical southern Ukrainian. It makes no sense. The problem is there isn't enough genetic testing in these regions too, the vast majority of Ukrainian samples are from western Ukraine.
hawklutz86
10-12-2023, 02:20 PM
Ukrainian from Ivano-Frankivsk
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 39.5
2 North_Atlantic 25.9
3 West_Med 14.37
4 East_Med 9.86
5 West_Asian 5.55
6 Amerindian 1.42
7 Siberian 1.38
8 South_Asian 1.3
9 Northeast_African 0.44
10 Oceanian 0.29
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Croatian 4.3
2 Ukrainian_Lviv 5.64
3 Ukrainian 5.88
4 South_Polish 6.67
5 Moldavian 6.82
6 Hungarian 9.28
7 Polish 9.33
8 Southwest_Russian 9.46
9 Ukrainian_Belgorod 10.29
10 Russian_Smolensk 11.13
11 Estonian_Polish 11.24
12 Belorussian 12.13
13 East_German 12.38
14 Serbian 12.79
15 Austrian 13.39
16 Kargopol_Russian 13.52
17 Erzya 15.54
18 Southwest_Finnish 15.92
19 Estonian 16
20 Romanian 16.22
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 84.1% Southwest_Russian + 15.9% Sardinian @ 1.94
2 88.7% Ukrainian + 11.3% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.19
3 83% Ukrainian + 17% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.27
4 88.8% Ukrainian + 11.2% Italian_Jewish @ 2.28
5 86.8% Ukrainian + 13.2% Ashkenazi @ 2.29
6 87.7% Ukrainian + 12.3% South_Italian @ 2.44
7 86.5% Ukrainian + 13.5% West_Sicilian @ 2.45
8 86.7% Ukrainian + 13.3% East_Sicilian @ 2.49
9 77% Ukrainian + 23% Bulgarian @ 2.5
10 89.7% Ukrainian + 10.3% Libyan_Jewish @ 2.54
11 86.4% Ukrainian + 13.6% Central_Greek @ 2.56
12 89.7% Ukrainian + 10.3% Tunisian_Jewish @ 2.56
13 89.1% Ukrainian + 10.9% Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.57
14 75.4% Ukrainian + 24.6% Romanian @ 2.71
15 85.5% Ukrainian + 14.5% Tuscan @ 2.74
16 90.3% Ukrainian + 9.7% Cyprian @ 2.76
17 83.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 16.8% Sardinian @ 2.83
18 86.5% Ukrainian + 13.5% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.85
19 75.9% Southwest_Russian + 24.1% North_Italian @ 2.92
20 62.1% Estonian_Polish + 37.9% Bulgarian @ 2.94
Very similar to my wife (50% Lviv + 25% Ivano-Frankivsk+ 25% Ternopil regions).
Population
North_Atlantic 23.92 Pct
Baltic 42.31 Pct
West_Med 14.3 Pct
West_Asian 7.35 Pct
East_Med 9.28 Pct
Red_Sea -
South_Asian 0.77 Pct
East_Asian -
Siberian 0.32 Pct
Amerindian 1.53 Pct
Oceanian 0.21 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -
Using 1 population approximation:
1 Ukrainian @ 6.222731
2 Ukrainian_Lviv @ 6.239564
3 Croatian @ 7.248573
4 South_Polish @ 8.300467
5 Southwest_Russian @ 8.846648
6 Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 9.402319
7 Moldavian @ 9.442387
8 Polish @ 10.217860
9 Russian_Smolensk @ 11.126201
10 Estonian_Polish @ 11.473460
11 Belorussian @ 12.672729
12 Hungarian @ 13.781288
13 Kargopol_Russian @ 13.830703
14 Erzya @ 15.163631
15 Lithuanian @ 16.859390
16 Serbian @ 17.049063
17 East_German @ 17.182999
18 Estonian @ 17.801155
19 Austrian @ 18.362904
20 Finnish @ 19.303852
Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Moldavian +50% Southwest_Russian @ 4.282330
Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Estonian_Polish +25% Greek_Thessaly +25% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 4.226545
Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Bulgarian + Estonian_Polish + Southwest_Russian + Ukrainian @ 3.858153
2 Bulgarian + Lithuanian + Lithuanian + Moldavian @ 3.863913
3 Bulgarian + Estonian_Polish + Ukrainian + Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.893697
4 Greek_Thessaly + Lithuanian + Southwest_Russian + Ukrainian @ 3.896152
5 Greek_Thessaly + Lithuanian + Ukrainian + Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.901620
6 Bulgarian + Lithuanian + Ukrainian + Ukrainian @ 3.908636
7 Bulgarian + Estonian_Polish + Lithuanian + Moldavian @ 3.945135
8 Estonian_Polish + Greek_Thessaly + Lithuanian + Ukrainian @ 3.952405
9 Central_Greek + Lithuanian + Lithuanian + Ukrainian @ 3.962598
10 Bulgarian + Southwest_Russian + Southwest_Russian + Ukrainian @ 3.978726
11 Bulgarian + Russian_Smolensk + Southwest_Russian + Ukrainian @ 3.984049
12 Bulgarian + Croatian + Lithuanian + Southwest_Russian @ 4.006445
13 Bulgarian + Estonian_Polish + Ukrainian + Ukrainian @ 4.009514
14 Greek_Thessaly + Lithuanian + Russian_Smolensk + Ukrainian @ 4.010735
15 Bulgarian + Croatian + Erzya + Lithuanian @ 4.012791
16 Erzya + Greek_Thessaly + Lithuanian + Ukrainian @ 4.015120
17 Greek_Thessaly + Lithuanian + Lithuanian + Ukrainian @ 4.020598
18 Bulgarian + Erzya + Ukrainian + Ukrainian @ 4.027843
19 Bulgarian + Southwest_Russian + Ukrainian + Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 4.067290
20 Bulgarian + Lithuanian + Southwest_Russian + Ukrainian @ 4.068799
Very similar to my wife (50% Lviv + 50% Ivano Frankivsk):
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Population
North_Atlantic 23.92 Pct
Baltic 42.31 Pct
West_Med 14.3 Pct
West_Asian 7.35 Pct
East_Med 9.28 Pct
Red_Sea -
South_Asian 0.77 Pct
East_Asian -
Siberian 0.32 Pct
Amerindian 1.53 Pct
Oceanian 0.21 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan
I'm a northern Russian, I don't give a fuck. I have a fucking East Asians up to 3-4%. Russian Russians and my Central Russian wife have several times lower East Asia than Kiev Ukrainians.
hawklutz86
10-12-2023, 02:31 PM
My results (Carpathian mountains of Lviv region right on the border with Poland, Stary Sambir district). On my mom's side - the descendants of Dragos Voda (Sas coat of arms) who came here in the 14th. C.:
Population
North_Atlantic 26.84 Pct
Baltic 34.9 Pct
West_Med 15.12 Pct
West_Asian 5.03 Pct
East_Med 15.08 Pct
Red_Sea 0.34 Pct
South_Asian -
East_Asian 0.87 Pct
Siberian 0.41 Pct
Amerindian 0.52 Pct
Oceanian 0.22 Pct
Northeast_African 0.67 Pct
Sub-Saharan -
Using 1 population approximation:
1 Croatian @ 6.701206
2 Moldavian @ 7.500411
3 Hungarian @ 8.834297
4 Serbian @ 9.092615
5 Ukrainian_Lviv @ 12.811443
6 South_Polish @ 12.831717
7 Romanian @ 13.059931
8 Ukrainian @ 13.324408
9 Austrian @ 13.726760
10 East_German @ 14.066195
11 Bulgarian @ 15.066054
12 Polish @ 16.682417
13 Southwest_Russian @ 16.890526
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 17.735224
15 Russian_Smolensk @ 18.940063
16 Estonian_Polish @ 19.022570
17 Belorussian @ 19.507204
18 West_German @ 21.669132
19 Kargopol_Russian @ 21.791067
20 Southwest_Finnish @ 22.286427
Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Estonian +50% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.584408
Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Belorussian +25% Bulgarian +25% Tuscan @ 3.878977
Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Belorussian + Belorussian + Bulgarian + Tuscan @ 3.878977
2 Ashkenazi + Lithuanian + Lithuanian + North_Italian @ 3.901389
3 Belorussian + Bulgarian + Lithuanian + Tuscan @ 3.915821
4 Belorussian + Bulgarian + Estonian_Polish + Tuscan @ 3.922393
5 Belorussian + Italian_Jewish + South_Polish + Ukrainian @ 3.926126
6 Estonian_Polish + Italian_Jewish + South_Polish + Ukrainian @ 3.952913
7 Estonian_Polish + Italian_Jewish + South_Polish + South_Polish @ 3.982157
8 Bulgarian + Estonian_Polish + Lithuanian + Tuscan @ 3.982718
9 Belorussian + Italian_Jewish + Ukrainian + Ukrainian @ 4.007094
10 Italian_Jewish + Polish + Ukrainian + Ukrainian @ 4.010541
11 Italian_Jewish + Polish + South_Polish + Ukrainian @ 4.037248
12 Bulgarian + Estonian_Polish + Estonian_Polish + Tuscan @ 4.040246
13 Belorussian + Italian_Jewish + South_Polish + South_Polish @ 4.054394
14 Belorussian + Belorussian + Bulgarian + North_Italian @ 4.058229
15 Belorussian + Bulgarian + Estonian_Polish + North_Italian @ 4.074231
16 Croatian + Estonian + Italian_Jewish + Ukrainian @ 4.101046
17 Greek_Thessaly + Lithuanian + Lithuanian + Tuscan @ 4.104701
18 Estonian_Polish + Italian_Jewish + Ukrainian + Ukrainian @ 4.111222
19 Belorussian + Greek_Thessaly + Lithuanian + North_Italian @ 4.134411
20 East_German + Estonian_Polish + Estonian_Polish + Italian_Jewish @
All the closest matches on Vahaduo are the Ukrainians of Zakarpatya.
hawklutz86
10-12-2023, 02:40 PM
Replying to why there's so much Siberian and Asian admixture in Central Ukrainians - we should keep in mind that Cumans and Black Klobuks were, for a long time, the allies of Kyiv Rus and defended it's Southern borders.
Another point that is worth mentioning - there was a post-Mongol invasion wave of resettlement into Central Ukraine from Galych and Volyn territories in the 14-16C. And another wave in the 18th C. after the Great Northern War. It might explain why ethnic Ukrainians in general are West shifted and so different from Russians genetically.
Abriekman
10-12-2023, 03:10 PM
It might explain why ethnic Ukrainians in general are West shifted and so different from Russians genetically.
Different as hell, like African and European :dielaughing:
Replying to why there's so much Siberian and Asian admixture in Central Ukrainians - we should keep in mind that Cumans and Black Klobuks were, for a long time, the allies of Kyiv Rus and defended it's Southern borders.
Another point that is worth mentioning - there was a post-Mongol invasion wave of resettlement into Central Ukraine from Galych and Volyn territories in the 14-16C. And another wave in the 18th C. after the Great Northern War. It might explain why ethnic Ukrainians in general are West shifted and so different from Russians genetically.
Despite our admixtures, central Ukrainians are closer to central Russians than anyone else. You are very far from Poles, it's almost the same with Russians. Small differences.
hawklutz86
10-12-2023, 03:49 PM
Despite our admixtures, central Ukrainians are closer to central Russians than anyone else. You are very far from Poles, it's almost the same with Russians. Small differences.
Central Ukrainians are close to South-Western Russians only due to deep historical roots of ethnic Ukrainians in that region. Western Ukrainians, apart from Volyn, are nowhere close to Russians. It's mostly due to very different substrates: Sarmato-Scythian+Turkic+Thracian+Germano-Celtic (in Ukrainians) vs Baltic+Hungro-Finnish (in Russians).
Both Poles and Russians are foreign to me culturally.
Replying to why there's so much Siberian and Asian admixture in Central Ukrainians - we should keep in mind that Cumans and Black Klobuks were, for a long time, the allies of Kyiv Rus and defended it's Southern borders.
Another point that is worth mentioning - there was a post-Mongol invasion wave of resettlement into Central Ukraine from Galych and Volyn territories in the 14-16C. And another wave in the 18th C. after the Great Northern War. It might explain why ethnic Ukrainians in general are West shifted and so different from Russians genetically.
You are exaggerating. Russian regions near Ukraine are not much different from Ukrainians in general. And, of course, this exaggeration is fuelled by political motives, who want to portray Ukrainians as Western Europeans, very different from their cousins the Russians. But reality says otherwise.
Central Ukrainians are close to South-Western Russians only due to deep historical roots of ethnic Ukrainians in that region. Western Ukrainians, apart from Volyn, are nowhere close to Russians. It's mostly due to very different substrates: Sarmato-Scythian+Turkic+Thracian+Germano-Celtic (in Ukrainians) vs Baltic+Hungro-Finnish (in Russians).
Both Poles and Russians are foreign to me culturally.
You are conflating genetically with culturally. Your tiny genetic differences from Russians are not responsible for your cultural differences. That's more political.
Central Ukrainians are close to South-Western Russians only due to deep historical roots of ethnic Ukrainians in that region. Western Ukrainians, apart from Volyn, are nowhere close to Russians. It's mostly due to very different substrates: Sarmato-Scythian+Turkic+Thracian+Germano-Celtic (in Ukrainians) vs Baltic+Hungro-Finnish (in Russians).
Both Poles and Russians are foreign to me culturally.
It is Volyn that is closest to the Russians, not even to the Belarusians. Kiev is identical. The southern regions of Ukraine have their own impurities. The eastern regions are almost identical. Well, it makes no sense to tear a Belarusian, a central Ukrainian or a central Russian from each other, there are negligible differences. The Poles are on the sidelines, they are right very on the sidelines
andrzej
10-12-2023, 05:06 PM
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gixajo
10-12-2023, 05:21 PM
Aren't you ashamed of doing what you are doing? I mean both Loki and Vjatych, you are harassing him just for identifying himself as Ukrainian.
CountGrishnackh
10-12-2023, 05:44 PM
My results (mixed Russian/Ukrainian)
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 42.86
2 North_Atlantic 32.88
3 West_Med 8.94
4 East_Med 4.89
5 West_Asian 4.64
6 Siberian 3.52
7 South_Asian 1.08
Least-squares method.
Using 1 population approximation:
1 South_Polish @ 4.788897
2 Polish @ 5.389415
3 Ukrainian @ 6.661991
4 Ukrainian_Lviv @ 7.450727
5 Southwest_Finnish @ 7.643763
6 Belorussian @ 8.051025
7 Russian_Smolensk @ 8.159524
8 Estonian_Polish @ 8.358365
9 Southwest_Russian @ 8.760627
10 Finnish @ 8.942044
11 Estonian @ 9.406475
12 Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 9.791260
13 Kargopol_Russian @ 10.988570
14 East_Finnish @ 11.293253
15 Croatian @ 12.383029
16 Lithuanian @ 12.693370
17 East_German @ 13.516651
18 Hungarian @ 13.529627
19 North_Swedish @ 14.076102
20 Erzya @ 15.244667
I'm a northern Russian, I don't give a fuck. I have a fucking East Asians up to 3-4%. Russian Russians and my Central Russian wife have several times lower East Asia than Kiev Ukrainians.
Are you not Alex-Rus? Alex is not Northern Russian, he's Central Russian and one quarter Southwestern, if I remember correctly. If you are not him, then why do you hate me, a basically non-active member?
Are you not Alex-Rus? Alex is not Northern Russian, he's Central Russian and one quarter Southwestern, if I remember correctly. If you are not him, then why do you hate me, a basically non-active member?
Yes, it's me. You hate the Russian world and you are for Western Belarus, you were then...that's why we quarreled. If you've come to your senses, welcome to the family
hawklutz86
10-12-2023, 06:15 PM
It is Volyn that is closest to the Russians, not even to the Belarusians. Kiev is identical. The southern regions of Ukraine have their own impurities. The eastern regions are almost identical. Well, it makes no sense to tear a Belarusian, a central Ukrainian or a central Russian from each other, there are negligible differences. The Poles are on the sidelines, they are right very on the sidelines
You are talking about the Russians in Ukraine or half-blood mixes. Ukrainians look very different from Russians and are different enough genetically. Culturally, we are very different too. I can tell apart a Russian from Ukrainian a mile away.
Yes, it's me. You hate the Russian world and you are for Western Belarus, you were then...that's why we quarreled. If you've come to your senses, welcome to the family
I have always considered the Russians, Ukrainians and Belorussians one triune Russian people historically speaking, so that is not true about me. You and I may not agree about some details.
hawklutz86
10-12-2023, 06:19 PM
I have always considered the Russians, Ukrainians and Belorussians one triune Russian people historically speaking, so that is not true about me. You and I may not agree about some details.
There's no more similarity than with other Slavic people. We come from completely different tribes with very different substrates. I'm surprised people still believe those Soviet fairy-tales about the same origins of East Slavics.
vandor
10-12-2023, 06:20 PM
Aren't you ashamed of doing what you are doing? I mean both Loki and Vjatych, you are harassing him just for identifying himself as Ukrainian.
I do better, I never go down to communicating with Ukrainians in the Internet xD I just ignore their existence most of time.
CountGrishnackh
10-12-2023, 06:22 PM
You are talking about the Russians in Ukraine or half-blood mixes. Ukrainians look very different from Russians and are different enough genetically. Culturally, we are very different too. I can tell apart a Russian from Ukrainian a mile away.
I'd agree with you on the cultural part, Russians (especially urbanised ones) are really different from Ukrainians, especially the ones from the western regions, but phenotypically? It depends on which part of the country you're talking about. Obviously Russians from south-western/central regions would look identical to Ukrainians from south/north-eastern and central parts of Ukraine, but Russians aren't a monolith group, they have several different populations inside their nation. A northern Russian (a proper one and not some larper) would be much closer to Karelians and Estonians (both genetically and phenotypically) than to a Russian/Ukrainian from the southern regions. There's generally a single genetical continuum stretching from Poland all the way to Russia, and Russians(mostly southern ones), Ukrainians, Poles and Belarusians(central and southern ones) clump together into one cluster.
gixajo
10-12-2023, 06:24 PM
I do better, I never go down to communicating with Ukrainians in the Internet xD I just ignore their existence most of time.
Why are you changing your niks all the time, now I don´t know if Vjatych and you are the same person, of if you are ugochaves and Victor is Russky, or the opposite.:D
vandor
10-12-2023, 06:25 PM
There's no more similarity than with other Slavic people. We come from completely different tribes with very different substrates. I'm surprised people still believe those Soviet fairy-tales about the same origins of East Slavics.
Modern Ukraine is just a huge historical territory, it's a big lies saying that territory of ex-USSR inhabited by homogeneous historical nation of Ukrainians. Me personally as Southern of Nikolaev (so called Mykolaiv) want just a separation, Russia does not need central Ukraine, after the war it should be a Ukrainian state, all the South-East should become Russia and it will forget the Ukrainism as a horror dream in 1-2 generations.
vandor
10-12-2023, 06:26 PM
Why are you changing your niks all the time, now I don´t know if Vjatych and you are the same person, of if you are ugochaves and Victor is Russky, or the opposite.:D
I'm Vandor. Vjatich is ex-ugochaves and he's on my ignore list for almost a month already.
The_Strategist
10-12-2023, 06:28 PM
Modern Ukraine is just a huge historical territory, it's a big lies saying that territory of ex-USSR inhabited by homogeneous historical nation of Ukrainians. Me personally as Southern of Nikolaev (so called Mykolaiv) want just a separation, Russia does not need central Ukraine, after the war it should be a Ukrainian state, all the South-East should become Russia and it will forget the Ukrainism as a horror dream in 1-2 generations.
Ukrainians and Russians are almost impossible to distinguish for foreigners. Whenever I stumble upon some east Slavs in Zagreb I never know are they Russians or Ukrainians, except when they tell.
There's no more similarity than with other Slavic people. We come from completely different tribes with very different substrates. I'm surprised people still believe those Soviet fairy-tales about the same origins of East Slavics.
Contrast admixture. When a more dissimilar admixture, even in small quantities, takes your brother far away. Let's say 1000 years ago Russian Kiev was disconnected. Some went to the west, others went to the east. Agree, if you are 1/4 Romanian, will you be closer to eastern Europe than if you mix with the Finns, who (even a little) will take you significantly to the northeast? At the same time, the root will not change. We have been disconnected from the Poles for a long time more than 1000 years ago.
hawklutz86
10-12-2023, 06:31 PM
Even your genetic test is showing a typical genetic difference between Russians and Ukrainians. There's no way a Russian would be scoring the same West Med+East Med admixture as an average Ukrainian. Russians are pulled to the north (even Central Russians) due to a typical Baltic admixture as they didn't come to an empty land. Ukrainians are pulled to the South due to the absorption of local people. I think that difference is quite pronounced.
There's no more similarity than with other Slavic people. We come from completely different tribes with very different substrates. I'm surprised people still believe those Soviet fairy-tales about the same origins of East Slavics.
The only fairytale here is the Khokhol-rewritten history. Get the fuck out of the East, zapadenets. The bulk of Ukraine is Russian lands.
hawklutz86
10-12-2023, 06:37 PM
That's why a lot more of your Russian friends are gonna die on the territory of Ukraine. It takes a long time for slow learners to figure out that Ukrainians are not Russians. And Russians will have some more fun soon when their Muslim citizens wouldn't like to be Rasiyane any more :) And I'm not here to conduct political discussions with the fans of invaders. Enjoy your fool's paradise on your own.
hawklutz86
10-12-2023, 06:41 PM
There are a lot of ethnic Russians who are masquerading as Ukrainians in Europe right now as it benefits them. Believe me Ukrainian and Russian anthropological types are quite different.
Beowulf
10-12-2023, 06:43 PM
My results (mixed Russian/Ukrainian)
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 42.86
2 North_Atlantic 32.88
3 West_Med 8.94
4 East_Med 4.89
5 West_Asian 4.64
6 Siberian 3.52
7 South_Asian 1.08
Least-squares method.
Using 1 population approximation:
1 South_Polish @ 4.788897
2 Polish @ 5.389415
3 Ukrainian @ 6.661991
4 Ukrainian_Lviv @ 7.450727
5 Southwest_Finnish @ 7.643763
6 Belorussian @ 8.051025
7 Russian_Smolensk @ 8.159524
8 Estonian_Polish @ 8.358365
9 Southwest_Russian @ 8.760627
10 Finnish @ 8.942044
11 Estonian @ 9.406475
12 Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 9.791260
13 Kargopol_Russian @ 10.988570
14 East_Finnish @ 11.293253
15 Croatian @ 12.383029
16 Lithuanian @ 12.693370
17 East_German @ 13.516651
18 Hungarian @ 13.529627
19 North_Swedish @ 14.076102
20 Erzya @ 15.244667
Cool results and welcome to the forum :thumb001: !!!
Contrast admixture. When a more dissimilar admixture, even in small quantities, takes your brother far away. Let's say 1000 years ago Russian Kiev was disconnected. Some went to the west, others went to the east. Agree, if you are 1/4 Romanian, will you be closer to eastern Europe than if you mix with the Finns, who (even a little) will take you significantly to the northeast? At the same time, the root will not change. We have been disconnected from the Poles for a long time more than 1000 years ago.
Nations are not 100 percent uniform, that's normal. Europe is small in terms of area but inside every country there are regional differences. A nation is not only about genes but also history, culture, identity, etc.
There are a lot of ethnic Russians who are masquerading as Ukrainians in Europe right now as it benefits them. Believe me Ukrainian and Russian anthropological types are quite different.
Which one is Russian, which one is Ukrainian? You should see it and say it
https://i.ibb.co/jgWx00D/1d.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)
Nations are not 100 percent uniform, that's normal. Europe is small in terms of area but inside every country there are regional differences. A nation is not only about genes but also history, culture, identity, etc.I consider myself a northern Russian because of their discrimination. The entire Russian people will become this 5% people of northern Russians if they begin to be separated from us.
russian: Если их начнут угнетать и отделять от нас. Мне важнее поморы чем украинцы и беларусы.
I consider myself a northern Russian because of their discrimination. The entire Russian people will become this 5% people of northern Russians if they begin to be separated from us.
There is no such discrimination in real life. It's some internet forum bullshit. In reality most Russians are regionally mixed including a lot of Khokhol, Belarus and sometimes other kinds of ancestry like Polish, German, recent Finno-Ugric etc.
There is no such discrimination in real life. It's some internet forum bullshit. In reality most Russians are regionally mixed including a lot of Khokhol, Belarus and sometimes other kinds of ancestry like Polish, German, recent Finno-Ugric etc.
I don't agree. My ancestors clearly understand who they are and their mixtures. My 1/4 Ukrainian admixture is clearly differentiated in my family. My grandfather, who married a Ukrainian, clearly understood that he was Russian, and my grandmother understood that she was Ukrainian. Together they hated blacks and Mongoloids.
CountGrishnackh
10-12-2023, 07:02 PM
Which one is Russian, which one is Ukrainian? You should see it and say it
https://i.ibb.co/jgWx00D/1d.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)
he quite clearly said 'Anthropological' types, not genetic.
andrzej
10-12-2023, 07:03 PM
You are exaggerating. Russian regions near Ukraine are not much different from Ukrainians in general. And, of course, this exaggeration is fuelled by political motives, who want to portray Ukrainians as Western Europeans, very different from their cousins the Russians. But reality says otherwise.
Definitely not *just* western, but different because of more Western, Steppe, Balkan, and Caucaus influence. Do these Central Ukrainians look Russian to you?
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I know phenotype is not genotype, but the ancestry of Ukrainians is clearly different than Russians and has created different phenotypes. However many Ukrainian groups which are more Mediterranean-oriented have become Russified like the Kuban Cossacks. So Russification and Ukrainization have made the two groups a bit more similar than they were in the past. You also have to note that the Ukrainian genotype is only now being fully studied, most of what we know of Ukraine was from Ukrainians in north-west Ukraine and Carpathians.
Ukrainians have more actual Iranic ancestry that's influenced their appearances, not to mention other things like Vlach and Thracian. But also the genetic input than it is because Slavs in general have been influenced by Iranic groups. Also Iranic groups shared a lot of the same Indo-European ancestry as the more Baltic-like Slavs and shared a lot of the same ancestry, despite groups like Scythians having more Neolithic Middle Eastern ancestry and East Eurasian ancestry influencing their looks, which those looks are clear in many Ukrainians (Pontids and Steppe Pontids). And also as mentioned, due to Ukraine being in the Eurasian steppes, Ukraine has had a lot of admixture of different steppe people including Turkic and Mongol people. From historical times with the Scythians we already see East Eurasian admixture and then in the Medieval Era the Kievan Rus had many relations with Turkic people, there was absorption of various Turkic and Steppe people both into the nobility and common folk.
Torks (Cyrillic: торки, literally "Turks", also known as Torkils[citation needed]) were a Medieval Turkic tribe of Oghuz[1] and/or Kipchak[2] origins. The Torks, alongsides Kipchaks (e.g. Berendei), and other tribes like Ulichi, Pechenegs, etc., formed the Chornye Klobuki ("Black Hats", Turkic Karakalpak), semi-nomadic tribes who fought as border guards for various princes of Kievan Rus.
In 1177 a Cuman army, allied with Ryazan, sacked six cities belonging to the Berendei and Torks.
Chorni Klobuky or Chornye Klobuki, meaning "black hats" (from Russian: Чёрные клобуки, romanized: Chërnyye klobuki and Ukrainian: Чорні клобуки, romanized: Chorni klobuky) was a generic name[1] for a group of semi-nomadic Turkic tribes of Berendei, Torki, Kovui of Chernihiv, Pechenegs, and others[2] that at the end of 11th century settled on the southern frontier of Kiev and Pereyaslav principalities along the Ros River valley.[2][3]
Black hoods , or Torks , in Russian chronicles, were called nomadic people of Turkic origin - Berendeyev (Berendichiv) [5] . According to historian A.I. Fursov , black hoods were the harbingers of the Cossacks . The zone they occupied along the Dnieper , Stugna and Ros rivers was a buffer between the nomads and Russia [6] .
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For the first time in historical sources that have survived to this day, the name “black hoods” was mentioned in the Ipatiev Chronicle in 1146, and for the last time in 1196. According to the chronicle, the Black Klobuks included Torci , Pechenegs , Berendeys and Kovui (Kowi) . Also, the chronicle mentions the Turpeians once (1150), the Kaepichs (1160) and the Bastians twice (1170). The last mention of the Turkic vassals of the Kyiv princes in the chronicle dates back to 1235 and concerns the Torks.
In the Moscow chronicle of the 15th century, under the year 1152, the Black Klobuki are identified with the Cherkassy : “ All Black Klobuki are called Cherkasy .” Somewhat later, the same explanation was placed in the Resurrection Chronicle.
The very name of Torkov , Berendeyev , Kovuev and other tribes of Turkic origin who lived in the Kiev province disappeared from people's memory, although in the chronicle there are no traces of their departure or extermination, and many faces of the Little Russian [Ukrainian] Cossacks strongly resemble the Asian appearance of these disappeared peoples.
According to archaeological data, after the Mongol conquest, part of the black hoods were resettled by the Mongols to the Volga region and Moldova , and were included in the military-aristocratic structure of the Jochi ulus. However, the semi-sedentary and sedentary part of the Black Klobuks remained in Porosye and over time assimilated with the local Slavic population.
Then there is the Glinsk and Mansur Principality and the descendants of the Mamai and the settlement of Tatars in the region.
There is little doubt, that Glinski's - actually are the descendants of Mamai so their ancestral lands were not only granted to them, but developed out of their very own principality near Poltava. Moreover, it is conceivable that this principality did not appear out of nowhere, and on the northern edge of the territory of nomadic groups of Tatars, descendants of the Kipchaks, were subordinated by Mamai and his immediate ancestors. It is observed, that a certain degree of independence in the Glinski's in the XV and early XVI century could have its roots in the history of the Principality of Mansur.
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The Glyn principality, the Mansur principality is a Tatar - Severian [1] [2] [3] principality in the 14th-16th centuries in the north-east of Ukraine (mainly the Sumy and Poltava regions ). It was founded in 1380 by the son of Mamai Mansur from the Kiat family.
We see here that this was a principality made up of a mixture of the Slavic Severian tribe and presumably Nogay or other descendants of Kipchaks.
In 1159, Chernihiv Prince Svyatoslav Olhovych 's response to Kyiv Prince Izyaslav Davidovych's threat of expulsion from Chernihiv after his refusal to help in the war against Volhynia Prince Mstislav Izyaslavych and Galician Prince Yaroslav Osmomysl reflects the devastation of at least the Russian land of the left-bank Naddniepr region and its settlement by Polovtsians . One of the oldest and richest cities of the Dnipro region - Ljubech - is present among the seven deserted towns in the Chernihiv region inhabited by the Polovtsy . [4]
Polovtsy are Cumans.
Mamai lost the battle of Kulikovo in 1380 to the troops of the Moscow prince Dmitry Donsky due to the delay of Lithuanian aid. In 1381, Mamai was killed by the Genoese in Kafi [5] . After the murder of Mamai-Kiyat, one of his sons Mansur-Kiyat (Mansur Kiyatovych Mamai), fearing the repressions of the new khan, left the Crimea and went to his native Polovtsian steppes (the northern part of the Black Sea and Nadozivya), from where, having gathered troops, he marched on the north in order to create his new principality.
On the territory of modern Sumy and Poltava regions, Mansur Mamai restored several cities: Glynsk , Glynnytsia, Poltava , and declared these lands his possessions, independent of neighboring states. This formation included one of the southern groups of sivryuks of the interfluve of the Vorskla River, Sula, in the Poltava region [6] .
Later, the possessions of the Mamai princes expanded and actually included the southern parts of Chernihiv Oblast and Sumy Oblast in the north; in the east - modern Kursk, Bilhorod and Kharkiv regions; in the west - the left bank of the Cherkasy region. After that, the possessions of the Glynskys became huge, and the princes themselves became the most influential feudal lords of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania . Since these lands were the border of the Slavic and Turkic peoples, their population was not distinguished by ethnic unity, however, the descendants of the Northerners , as well as the Polovtsians , mostly settled here . Since the 15th century, the Sivryuks, thanks to their stable migration, began to assimilate the Polovtsian and Turkic populations [7] .
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cossack_Mamay
Also of course these and other border populations and Slavs living in the steppes began to intermix with different Steppe people whether Turkic, Caucaus, Iranic, or Germanic. This mixture formed the basis for the birth of the Zaporzhian Cossacks. Slavic was a lingua-franca in the Steppes also don't forget. After the establishment of the Cossacks as a people they also straight up absorbed Tatars. Many lone Cossack bands were seen to be living with Turkic and Steppe nomads.
There were Slavic cities already in the Steppes and part of Kievan Rus, and in Crimea. But even when Rus began to disintegrate Slavic tribes were found through out the Steppes intermixing with different people.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brodnici
Attempts have been made to associate them to better known neighbouring populations, different authors classifying them as Slavs or Iranian, or perhaps mixed ethnic stock: Romanian-Slavic[2] or Turko-Slavic.[4]
or
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Russian chronicles often mention berladniki and cities near the Danube. The Ipatiev Chronicle mentions the war of 1159 between Prince Yaroslav of Galich and his cousin Ivan Berladnik. “Ivan rinsed the horse into the field to the Polovtsians... and a hundred in the cities of the Danube...” [2] . “And when many Polovtsians and Berladniks came to him, they redeemed (collected) 6,000”
This is Ivan IV speaking to the Nogai murzas about Cossack bands forming from a mixture of independent bands of Nogay in what is now the Donetsk and Luhansk region.
And you know a lot, where there are no bad guys. Many Cossacks, many Kazan, Azov, Crimean and other favorites go to the field. And our Ukrainians mingle with them, and those people are like your fathers ... and robbers, and no one teaches them how to be brave, but after committing such a brave thing (trouble - author), they leave their lands ...
A western historian in this region of the Steppes wrote:
And on the way between him and his father, we felt great fear: it was the [Ruthenians], [Magyars], and Alans, their slaves [Tatars], the number of whom they have is very large, now 20 or 30 people are gathering, running out at night with quivers and bows and killing anyone who is caught at night. During the day they hide, and when the horses get tired of them, they go to herds of horses in the pastures at night, exchange horses, and take one or two with them to eat if necessary. Our guide was very afraid of such a meeting.
After Zaporzhian and Don Cossacks absorbed these fringe mixed Cossack groups and the Nogay too.
So the process of absorbing Steppe groups was continuous until the Cossacks became peasants and even then there was absorption of groups such as Kalmyks.
The point I'm trying to make is that Turkic and other Steppe ancestry has also influenced Ukrainians greatly, which is many Ukrainians have such looks that some Russians seem to be obsessed with. They exist among Russians as well which is the thing they don't tell you, just obviously not as much:
http://slavanthro.mybb3.ru/viewtopic.php?t=798&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=7425
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[/spoiler]Nonsense. The steppe people had almost no influence on the Ukrainians. Ukrainian dark appearance from Southern European admixture. Steppe people in Ukraine are a minor.
he quite clearly said 'Anthropological' types, not genetic.
Things get crazy when Ukrainians see PCA. Your proximity to the Russians makes you cringe. Even a Pecheneg, as long as it’s not Russian. As a descendant of Ukrainians, I do not agree with you. There is nothing steppe or Turkic about me. My grandmother was super Caucasian and fair.
^ Well half of those pics could be Russians, it's really not that easy to tell. Perhaps averages yes. But when it comes to individuals, it's hard to tell the difference.
I don't agree. My ancestors clearly understand who they are and their mixtures. My 1/4 Ukrainian admixture is clearly differentiated in my family. My grandfather, who married a Ukrainian, clearly understood that he was Russian, and my grandmother understood that she was Ukrainian. Together they hated blacks and Mongoloids.
Prior to 1991 that was not a political issue. Russians and Ukrainians would happily marry each other and none of such people considered themselves "mixed" or anything like that. It's like being half Bavarian and half Saxon in Germany or maybe half Irish half Scottish in Britain.
andrzej
10-12-2023, 07:15 PM
Also in addition some Eastern Ukrainians who are apparently indistinguishable from Central Russians:
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andrzej
10-12-2023, 07:16 PM
^ Well half of those pics could be Russians, it's really not that easy to tell. Perhaps averages yes. But when it comes to individuals, it's hard to tell the difference.
I agree, the overlap between Russians and Ukrainians is huge but there are huge differences too. And it gets much different in the south and south-west.
^ Well half of those pics could be Russians, it's really not that easy to tell. Perhaps averages yes. But when it comes to individuals, it's hard to tell the difference.
In Russia probably 20-25% of the Russian population have a Ukrainian-born parent or grandparent. And in Ukraine it's about the same. Lots of people with -ov and -in last names are now virulently anti-Russian. Ukrainianism is a political ideology, it's barely an ethnic thing, honestly speaking.
It’s a pity that there are no real Ukrainians on the forum; some half-Polish mixture from Canada tells me about the difference between Russians and Ukrainians.
Prior to 1991 that was not a political issue. Russians and Ukrainians would happily marry each other and none of such people considered themselves "mixed" or anything like that. It's like being half Bavarian and half Saxon in Germany or maybe half Irish half Scottish in Britain.
This is a good comparison, yes. Makes you realise how silly it is, how brainwashed people have become.
I want Russians to mix with Ukrainians and there will be no more Ukrainians. This is my dream. Russian-Ukrainian families are the happiest.
Nice.
My post was deleted anyway. So much care for the freedom of expression.
Nice.
My post was deleted anyway. So much care for the freedom of expression.
Because it wasn't necessary for you to insert your message of hate and ruin a good discussion. Nothing to do with freedom of speech.
Nice.
My post was deleted anyway. So much care for the freedom of expression.
Russophobia is so offensive that it must be punished by death!
Nice.
My post was deleted anyway. So much care for the freedom of expression.
I'm interested in what you said. I know that you are a good person, but you are drunk all the time.
Russophobia is so offensive that it must be punished by death!
I don't agree. Russophobia makes us stronger. A strong Russian is a support for the whole world. This is our evil fate. The main thing is that Russophobia does not provoke a world war, where again the Russians will be kind to all sorts of Germans and British, and then they will say that they were raped... sometimes I think, why didn’t we rape 2 million German women? There was a chance...Why the hell are we so correct and good?
hawklutz86
10-12-2023, 07:43 PM
I have already stated it above: West Med + East Med in unadmixed Ukrainians will be at about 20%. There's no way unadmixed Russian will be anywhere close to these levels. And I'm not talking about Bilhorod, Voronizh, Kursk, etc - the areas of close contact between Ukrainians and Russians. Show me the Russians from historical Duchy of Moscovy territories with the same levels. It's just plain impossible.
I have already stated it above: West Med + East Med in unadmixed Ukrainians will be at about 20%. There's no way unadmixed Russian will be anywhere close to these levels. And I'm not talking about Bilhorod, Voronizh, Kursk, etc - the areas of close contact between Ukrainians and Russians. Show me the Russians from historical Duchy of Moscovy territories with the same levels. It's just plain impossible.Voronezh and Kursk 0% contact with Ukrainians. These are the most purebred Russians. Belgorod has contacts. Don't give importance to phenotypes. This southern ugliness was given to Ukrainians by the Transcarpathian mixture. The ancient Ukrainian (southwestern Russian from Kiev) was similar to the Russian - light and graceful. Then the occupation of Russian lands by Ukrainians...phenotypes began to change, but not yet much on the Russian lands of Kyiv, Volyn, Dnieper, Chernigov. These Ukrainians are still very similar to the Russians.
In fact, Russian-Ukrainian contacts are a natural thing. Ukrainians descended from southern Russians. The Kyiv Russians and Suzdal Russians spoke the same language until the Kyiv Russians were covered by the Transcarpathian hordes. Our ancestors were assimilated by black, incomprehensible hominids. our bright blue-eyed faces began to turn black. This thousand-year-old tragedy is being resolved today.
NdvBal
11-07-2023, 10:31 AM
A Ukrainian from Mykolaiv Oblast:
Eurogenes K13:
Kit ZF3759691
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 43.9
2 North_Atlantic 25.8
3 West_Med 11.22
4 West_Asian 7.6
5 East_Med 7.42
6 Amerindian 1.31
7 East_Asian 1.3
8 Red_Sea 1.21
9 Oceanian 0.25
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Ukrainian 3.46
2 Ukrainian_Lviv 3.75
3 Southwest_Russian 4.99
4 Ukrainian_Belgorod 5.05
5 South_Polish 5.26
6 Polish 5.91
7 Russian_Smolensk 6.5
8 Estonian_Polish 7.19
9 Croatian 7.98
10 Belorussian 8.02
11 Kargopol_Russian 10.53
12 Moldavian 10.56
13 Lithuanian 11.79
14 Erzya 12.02
15 Estonian 12.65
16 Hungarian 12.65
17 Finnish 14.24
18 Southwest_Finnish 14.67
19 East_German 14.96
20 East_Finnish 15
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 92.1% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 7.9% Sardinian @ 1.98
2 65.5% Lithuanian + 34.5% Bulgarian @ 2.06
3 62.8% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 37.2% Croatian @ 2.2
4 76.6% Lithuanian + 23.4% Central_Greek @ 2.3
5 78.4% Russian_Smolensk + 21.6% Bulgarian @ 2.33
6 63.6% Southwest_Russian + 36.4% Croatian @ 2.44
7 88.3% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 11.7% North_Italian @ 2.45
8 78.6% Lithuanian + 21.4% South_Italian @ 2.49
9 72.8% Lithuanian + 27.2% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.52
10 86.3% Russian_Smolensk + 13.7% Central_Greek @ 2.53
11 63.9% Lithuanian + 36.1% Romanian @ 2.53
12 52.9% Moldavian + 47.1% Lithuanian @ 2.54
13 83.8% Russian_Smolensk + 16.2% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.57
14 89.1% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 10.9% Tuscan @ 2.61
15 87.7% Russian_Smolensk + 12.3% South_Italian @ 2.61
16 63.3% Russian_Smolensk + 36.7% Moldavian @ 2.66
17 77.2% Lithuanian + 22.8% East_Sicilian @ 2.67
18 70.5% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 29.5% Moldavian @ 2.68
19 89.7% Russian_Smolensk + 10.3% Cyprian @ 2.68
20 86.8% Russian_Smolensk + 13.2% East_Sicilian @ 2.69
Vahaduo distances (Updated spreadsheet):
ZF3759691,25.8,43.9,11.22,7.6,7.42,1.21,0,1.3,0,1. 31,0.25,0,0
Distance to: ZF3759691
3.16848544 Ukrainian_South
3.61700152 Ukrainian_North
3.85611203 Ukrainian_Moldova
4.01205683 Ukrainian_Northwest
4.27742913 Polish_Subcarpathia
4.44775224 German_Brandenburg_Outlier(Beeskow)
4.80939705 Polish_Silesia
4.88595948 Russian_Southwest
5.07165653 Ukrainian_Galicia
5.08631497 Polish_Mazovia
5.89079791 Polish_South
6.27943469 Polish_Lesser_Poland
6.28782156 Russian_Ryazan
6.69443799 Polish_Greater_Poland
6.95526419 Ukrainian_Carpathians
7.32056009 Russian_Smolensk
7.47601498 Polish_Podlaskie
7.76873864 Belarusian_Minsk
7.96133783 Lemko_Poland
8.23542956 Upper_Silesia
8.30317409 Polish_Kujavia
8.85666416 Slovak
8.88579766 Polish_Warmia-Masuria
9.22095440 German_East_Prussia_Masuria
9.32775428 Sorb_Saxony_Kamenz
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