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gixajo
08-26-2020, 09:15 AM
I did some means that could interest someone, if you want to use them to make your own models.

All Scaled coordinates.

From Modern averages:

Berber=MAR_ERR,+MAR_TIZ,+Tunisia_Chen,+Tunisia_Sen


Berber,-0.06548320,0.13410613,-0.00816420,-0.07538218,0.02581348,-0.03472953,-0.02944445,0.00831648,0.06752790,0.02796198,0.0070 7855,-0.00796418,0.02308645,-0.01552258,0.01677808,-0.01294335,-0.00285148,-0.02166338,-0.04415378,0.01019313,-0.01565483,-0.03933808,0.02467100,-0.00293920,0.00493865

From Ancient averages:

AncientNorthAfrican,=Canary_Islands_Guanche,+MAR_T aforalt,


AncientNorthAfrican,-0.1146199,0.1064274,-0.0133125,-0.0771647,0.0306826,-0.0457937,-0.0502921,0.0133378,0.1131424,0.0170209,0.0142415,-0.0189132,0.0464861,-0.0345158,0.0472035,-0.0246750,0.0042245,-0.0426560,-0.0933686,0.0246994,-0.0255799,-0.0816232,0.0481405,-0.0074706,0.0105379

Mixing references from Modern&Ancient averages:

NorthAfrican:Modern&Ancient=Berber,+MAR_Taforalt,+Canary_Islands_Guanc he,


NorthAfrican:Modern&Ancient,-0.0982410,0.1156536,-0.0115964,-0.0765705,0.0290596,-0.0421056,-0.0433429,0.0116640,0.0979376,0.0206679,0.0118539,-0.0152635,0.0386862,-0.0281847,0.0370617,-0.0207645,0.0018658,-0.0356585,-0.0769637,0.0198640,-0.0222715,-0.0675282,0.0403173,-0.0059601,0.0086715

Maybe these ones could interest you too:

Arabian,=Saudi,+(Yemenite_Al_Jawf,+Yemenite_Mahra, )


Arabian,0.05059585,0.13995270,-0.06513990,-0.11723870,-0.00940130,-0.04997380,-0.01229238,-0.00808298,0.05608075,-0.00410653,0.01556333,-0.03192903,0.06243548,0.00350273,0.00455410,0.0252 5745,-0.02140830,0.00386218,0.00015448,0.02687405,0.0126 3658,0.01614353,-0.00905183,0.00697205,-0.00832413

MiddleEast,=Jordanian,+Syrian


MiddleEast,0.05685165,0.12859275,-0.04813445,-0.06769060,-0.01581660,-0.02342100,-0.00406920,-0.00286015,0.00661045,-0.00050155,0.00442385,-0.00707060,0.01346310,-0.00017820,-0.00193140,0.00745640,-0.00185565,0.00011665,0.00003315,0.00229120,0.0015 7940,0.00151840,-0.00176365,0.00088215,-0.00121830

Levantine=(Levant_Yehud_IBA,+Levant_Ashkelon_IA1,) +Palestinian_Beit_Sahour


Levantine,0.08970675,0.15220263,-0.04970895,-0.08630155,-0.00821318,-0.02909195,-0.00308430,-0.00400938,0.01374138,0.01814400,0.00735825,-0.00407470,0.00702445,0.00651988,-0.00855050,0.00501358,-0.00108388,0.00259705,0.00276545,0.00053945,-0.00321313,0.00803751,0.00093205,0.00186763,0.0012 6450

Lebanese=Lebanese_Christian,+Lebanese_Druze,+Leban ese_Muslim,


Lebanese,0.08266933,0.14034033,-0.04785800,-0.07207067,-0.01501100,-0.02607833,-0.00123600,-0.00513433,0.00114867,0.00715633,0.00546567,-0.00379467,0.01049567,0.00160867,-0.00861033,0.00616833,-0.00218200,0.00101300,0.00221367,-0.00011100,-0.00075000,0.00016400,-0.00141500,0.00221267,-0.00082433

Yemenite=_Al_Jawf,+Yemenite_Mahra,


Yemenite,0.05174190,0.13874660,-0.06566620,-0.11837600,-0.00721070,-0.05182340,-0.01121515,-0.00798695,0.06050780,-0.00232075,0.01483365,-0.03200295,0.06152495,0.00486465,0.00592640,0.0233 3400,-0.02076730,0.00343125,0.00063025,0.02348350,0.0122 1305,0.01540175,-0.01090055,0.00567000,-0.00689545

SSA:A=Bantu_Kenya,+Masai+Igbo
SSA:B,=Pemba+ZAF,+Yoruba,


SSA:A,-0.55687967,0.06753267,0.00828100,-0.00197833,-0.00047466,-0.00003500,-0.01680300,0.02377800,0.01856900,-0.02692533,-0.00502067,0.00591333,-0.01327400,0.00153100,-0.00610700,0.00092800,0.00531300,-0.00194267,0.00208467,-0.00411667,0.00054600,-0.00162833,-0.00365633,-0.00061267,0.00158167
SSA:B,-0.6242421,0.0639936,0.0215130,0.0145326,0.0028094, 0.0117579,-0.0161961,0.0216721,-0.0308661,0.0149323,0.0037054,0.0018871,-0.0006642,0.0019913,-0.0064682,0.0041677,-0.0048993,0.0149827,-0.0066659,0.0019943,0.0010692,0.0020188,0.0011803, 0.0001642,0.0012754

gixajo
08-26-2020, 09:22 AM
If someone is interested in another mean/average related with these ones, just post references/samples in the same way I write the previous ones(or send me a PM).

I don't have a lot of free time lately, but I'll try to do them when I can :picard1:

NewReference= A sample+B Sample+...N sample.

Or

Newreference=(A sample+B sample) + (C sample+ D sample)

Or any variation you think could be suitable.

Angelo
08-26-2020, 09:34 AM
What those coordinates and Codes mean?:confused:

Kyp
08-26-2020, 09:38 AM
Please do:

Persian average:



Iranian_Fars,0.088515,0.095638,-0.063867,-0.024092,-0.04609,0.000755,0.00441,-0.005212,-0.028585,-0.014825,0.000783,-0.001058,0.00474,-0.00255,0.004551,0.0118,-0.005415,0.00152,0.001967,-0.008938,-0.000404,-0.00336,0.001291,-0.004437,0.004064
Iranian_Zoroastrian,0.091628,0.107784,-0.063219,-0.022522,-0.045365,0.004044,0.001859,-0.005318,-0.028373,-0.01684,-0.000251,0.000361,0.004365,-0.004942,0.007125,0.013554,-0.003526,0.002885,0.001731,-0.008771,-0.003222,-0.003766,0.000678,-0.003489,0.005367

Anatolian Turkish average:


Turkish_Adana,0.09656,0.093429,-0.033627,-0.03833,-0.028057,-0.014549,0.004935,-0.002846,-0.017691,-0.002612,-0.000974,0.002073,0.000867,-0.000206,-0.002782,0.000331,0.002803,0.000633,0.002409,-0.005044,-0.00208,-0.001278,-0.001725,-0.003535,0.000539
Turkish_Aydin,0.094799,0.061077,-0.012391,-0.036084,-0.019828,-0.014343,0.003458,-0.000923,-0.017005,-0.001692,-0.001531,-0.000235,-0.004502,0.004994,-0.005913,0.001477,0.002943,0.000452,0.001257,-0.001429,-0.00344,-0.002773,-0.003733,-0.000895,-0.001557
Turkish_Balikesir,0.098647,0.059747,-0.009994,-0.026702,-0.018209,-0.013712,0.006659,0.004654,-0.015612,0.003675,-0.000487,0.003772,-0.003295,0.001858,0.001312,-0.001458,-0.001282,0.001457,0.003624,-0.001959,-0.005449,0.000886,-0.001048,0.000944,-2e-04
Turkish_Central,0.097276,0.084133,-0.030576,-0.040524,-0.022845,-0.013344,0.003507,-0.001953,-0.021066,-0.002173,-3e-04,0.00279,-0.003671,0.000953,-0.005658,-0.00155,0.000652,0.001111,0.001064,-0.001799,-0.001344,0.001883,-0.00182,-0.000463,0.000442
Turkish_East,0.098599,0.110693,-0.046339,-0.042475,-0.033237,-0.006868,0.004348,-0.004558,-0.030551,-0.005194,0.003126,0.002604,-0.005129,-0.001858,-0.001629,0.001458,0.003162,0.00209,-4.7e-05,-0.00211,0.001201,-0.001051,-0.00077,-0.001341,-0.002111
Turkish_Kayseri,0.099709,0.097592,-0.034129,-0.045866,-0.02422,-0.012188,0.003126,-0.001015,-0.023316,-0.000273,-0.000715,0.000375,-0.001249,0.003041,-0.003542,-9.3e-05,0.000756,0.000861,0.001999,-0.003452,-0.001797,0.00115,-0.002613,-0.002916,-0.000551
Turkish_North,0.100291,0.06646,-0.022292,-0.03553,-0.023389,-0.0141,0.006502,-0.001333,-0.021566,-0.002167,-0.002436,0.003097,-0.008011,0.001942,-0.005761,-0.004464,0.00071,-8.5e-05,0.00176,-0.003321,-0.004645,0.001553,-0.003328,0.000442,-0.000346
Turkish_Northwest,0.098647,0.057208,-0.010559,-0.027958,-0.018123,-0.011248,0.006345,-0.000667,-0.01768,-0.001276,-0.003013,0.000716,-0.002131,0.00211,-0.003966,-0.001429,0.005447,0.000619,0.001117,0.001459,-0.005047,0.000975,-0.001342,-0.000201,0.000878
Turkish_South,0.09431,0.055274,-0.022897,-0.033085,-0.029061,-0.011196,0.006782,-0.000857,-0.020715,-0.002083,-0.001786,2.1e-05,-0.003143,-0.000177,-0.002036,0.00339,0.003967,0.001538,0.002083,0.0004 11,-0.002424,0.001272,-0.002976,0.001807,0.003062
Turkish_Southwest,0.095404,0.058531,-0.017793,-0.031243,-0.022326,-0.011637,0.005384,0.000608,-0.014912,0.001856,-0.001151,0.000736,-0.002973,-0.001051,-0.004874,0.007859,0.010217,0.000749,0.000583,-0.000398,-0.004016,-0.002147,-0.003395,0.000701,-0.001829

gixajo
08-26-2020, 09:57 AM
Please do.....

Persian average:



Iranian_Fars,0.088515,0.095638,-0.063867,-0.024092,-0.04609,0.000755,0.00441,-0.005212,-0.028585,-0.014825,0.000783,-0.001058,0.00474,-0.00255,0.004551,0.0118,-0.005415,0.00152,0.001967,-0.008938,-0.000404,-0.00336,0.001291,-0.004437,0.004064
Iranian_Zoroastrian,0.091628,0.107784,-0.063219,-0.022522,-0.045365,0.004044,0.001859,-0.005318,-0.028373,-0.01684,-0.000251,0.000361,0.004365,-0.004942,0.007125,0.013554,-0.003526,0.002885,0.001731,-0.008771,-0.003222,-0.003766,0.000678,-0.003489,0.005367
[B]


Itīs not completely related with the area, but here you have first one:

Persian:forKyp,=Iranian_Fars,+Iranian_Zoroastrian,


Persian:forKyp,0.0900715,0.1017110,-0.0635430,-0.0233070,-0.0457275,0.0023995,0.0031345,-0.0052650,-0.0284790,-0.0158325,0.0002660,-0.0003485,0.0045525,-0.0037460,0.0058380,0.0126770,-0.0044705,0.0022025,0.0018490,-0.0088545,-0.0018130,-0.0035630,0.0009845,-0.0039630,0.0047155

And you have those averages made times ago, and that you already know probably:

Iranian=Iranian_Fars,+Iranian_Lor,


Iran:A,0.08819270,0.10113475,-0.06562890,-0.02964950,-0.04627995,-0.00295545,0.00468410,-0.00464850,-0.02821040,-0.01373640,0.00216160,-0.00098600,0.00418345,-0.00166035,0.00498295,0.01070660,-0.00466300,0.00281875,0.00398130,-0.00991535,-0.00093175,-0.00418420,-0.00039000,-0.00518885,0.00490625

Turkish,=Turkish_Northwest,+Turkish_South,+Turkish _Southwest,+Turkish_Central,


Turkish,0.09640925,0.06378650,-0.02045625,-0.03320250,-0.02308875,-0.01185625,0.00550450,-0.00071725,-0.01859325,-0.00091900,-0.00156250,0.00106575,-0.00297950,0.00045875,-0.00413350,0.00206750,0.00507075,0.00100425,0.0012 1175,-0.00008175,-0.00320775,0.00049575,-0.00238325,0.00046100,0.00063825

gixajo
08-26-2020, 10:21 AM
Please do:





Turkish_Adana,0.09656,0.093429,-0.033627,-0.03833,-0.028057,-0.014549,0.004935,-0.002846,-0.017691,-0.002612,-0.000974,0.002073,0.000867,-0.000206,-0.002782,0.000331,0.002803,0.000633,0.002409,-0.005044,-0.00208,-0.001278,-0.001725,-0.003535,0.000539
Turkish_Aydin,0.094799,0.061077,-0.012391,-0.036084,-0.019828,-0.014343,0.003458,-0.000923,-0.017005,-0.001692,-0.001531,-0.000235,-0.004502,0.004994,-0.005913,0.001477,0.002943,0.000452,0.001257,-0.001429,-0.00344,-0.002773,-0.003733,-0.000895,-0.001557
Turkish_Balikesir,0.098647,0.059747,-0.009994,-0.026702,-0.018209,-0.013712,0.006659,0.004654,-0.015612,0.003675,-0.000487,0.003772,-0.003295,0.001858,0.001312,-0.001458,-0.001282,0.001457,0.003624,-0.001959,-0.005449,0.000886,-0.001048,0.000944,-2e-04
Turkish_Central,0.097276,0.084133,-0.030576,-0.040524,-0.022845,-0.013344,0.003507,-0.001953,-0.021066,-0.002173,-3e-04,0.00279,-0.003671,0.000953,-0.005658,-0.00155,0.000652,0.001111,0.001064,-0.001799,-0.001344,0.001883,-0.00182,-0.000463,0.000442
Turkish_East,0.098599,0.110693,-0.046339,-0.042475,-0.033237,-0.006868,0.004348,-0.004558,-0.030551,-0.005194,0.003126,0.002604,-0.005129,-0.001858,-0.001629,0.001458,0.003162,0.00209,-4.7e-05,-0.00211,0.001201,-0.001051,-0.00077,-0.001341,-0.002111
Turkish_Kayseri,0.099709,0.097592,-0.034129,-0.045866,-0.02422,-0.012188,0.003126,-0.001015,-0.023316,-0.000273,-0.000715,0.000375,-0.001249,0.003041,-0.003542,-9.3e-05,0.000756,0.000861,0.001999,-0.003452,-0.001797,0.00115,-0.002613,-0.002916,-0.000551
Turkish_North,0.100291,0.06646,-0.022292,-0.03553,-0.023389,-0.0141,0.006502,-0.001333,-0.021566,-0.002167,-0.002436,0.003097,-0.008011,0.001942,-0.005761,-0.004464,0.00071,-8.5e-05,0.00176,-0.003321,-0.004645,0.001553,-0.003328,0.000442,-0.000346
Turkish_Northwest,0.098647,0.057208,-0.010559,-0.027958,-0.018123,-0.011248,0.006345,-0.000667,-0.01768,-0.001276,-0.003013,0.000716,-0.002131,0.00211,-0.003966,-0.001429,0.005447,0.000619,0.001117,0.001459,-0.005047,0.000975,-0.001342,-0.000201,0.000878
Turkish_South,0.09431,0.055274,-0.022897,-0.033085,-0.029061,-0.011196,0.006782,-0.000857,-0.020715,-0.002083,-0.001786,2.1e-05,-0.003143,-0.000177,-0.002036,0.00339,0.003967,0.001538,0.002083,0.0004 11,-0.002424,0.001272,-0.002976,0.001807,0.003062
Turkish_Southwest,0.095404,0.058531,-0.017793,-0.031243,-0.022326,-0.011637,0.005384,0.000608,-0.014912,0.001856,-0.001151,0.000736,-0.002973,-0.001051,-0.004874,0.007859,0.010217,0.000749,0.000583,-0.000398,-0.004016,-0.002147,-0.003395,0.000701,-0.001829

Turkish:B=Turkish_Adana,+Turkish_Aydin,+Turkish_Ba likesir,+Turkish_Central,+Turkish_Deliorman,+Turki sh_East,+Turkish_Istanbul,+Turkish_Kayseri,+Turkis h_North,+Turkish_Northwest,+Turkish_South,+Turkish _Southwest,


Turkish:B,0.0992254,0.0786815,-0.0200851,-0.0319207,-0.0200989,-0.0106798,0.0050411,-0.0002120,-0.0184973,-0.0010534,-0.0007855,0.0013163,-0.0028215,0.0017155,-0.0041298,0.0000325,0.0029920,0.0011112,0.0018688,-0.0017495,-0.0029590,-0.0000647,-0.0019151,-0.0004425,-0.0000719

gixajo
08-26-2020, 10:26 AM
I saw you included some references in the first post that you delete while I was doing the mean.;)

I supose you delete Istanbul and one more because they are not very "anatolian", but they are included in the average I posted.

Kyp
08-26-2020, 10:30 AM
Itīs not completely related with the area, but here you have first one:

Persian:forKyp,=Iranian_Fars,+Iranian_Zoroastrian,


Persian:forKyp,0.0900715,0.1017110,-0.0635430,-0.0233070,-0.0457275,0.0023995,0.0031345,-0.0052650,-0.0284790,-0.0158325,0.0002660,-0.0003485,0.0045525,-0.0037460,0.0058380,0.0126770,-0.0044705,0.0022025,0.0018490,-0.0088545,-0.0018130,-0.0035630,0.0009845,-0.0039630,0.0047155

And you have those averages made times ago, and that you already know probably:

Iranian=Iranian_Fars,+Iranian_Lor,


Iran:A,0.08819270,0.10113475,-0.06562890,-0.02964950,-0.04627995,-0.00295545,0.00468410,-0.00464850,-0.02821040,-0.01373640,0.00216160,-0.00098600,0.00418345,-0.00166035,0.00498295,0.01070660,-0.00466300,0.00281875,0.00398130,-0.00991535,-0.00093175,-0.00418420,-0.00039000,-0.00518885,0.00490625

Turkish,=Turkish_Northwest,+Turkish_South,+Turkish _Southwest,+Turkish_Central,


Turkish,0.09640925,0.06378650,-0.02045625,-0.03320250,-0.02308875,-0.01185625,0.00550450,-0.00071725,-0.01859325,-0.00091900,-0.00156250,0.00106575,-0.00297950,0.00045875,-0.00413350,0.00206750,0.00507075,0.00100425,0.0012 1175,-0.00008175,-0.00320775,0.00049575,-0.00238325,0.00046100,0.00063825


Turkish:B=Turkish_Adana,+Turkish_Aydin,+Turkish_Ba likesir,+Turkish_Central,+Turkish_Deliorman,+Turki sh_East,+Turkish_Istanbul,+Turkish_Kayseri,+Turkis h_North,+Turkish_Northwest,+Turkish_South,+Turkish _Southwest,


Turkish:B,0.0992254,0.0786815,-0.0200851,-0.0319207,-0.0200989,-0.0106798,0.0050411,-0.0002120,-0.0184973,-0.0010534,-0.0007855,0.0013163,-0.0028215,0.0017155,-0.0041298,0.0000325,0.0029920,0.0011112,0.0018688,-0.0017495,-0.0029590,-0.0000647,-0.0019151,-0.0004425,-0.0000719

thanks:thumb001:

Chris596
08-26-2020, 10:55 AM
Can you do an average for the Caucasus as well? I know the Turkish_East G25 average is really similar to Armenians for example, I just don't know if it's reasonable to do this and what population averages should we use. Maybe someone else has an idea?

gixajo
08-26-2020, 11:12 AM
Can you do an average for the Caucasus as well? I know the Turkish_East G25 average is really similar to Armenians for example, I just don't know if it's reasonable to do this and what population averages should we use. Maybe someone else has an idea?

I have an Armenian and a Georgian average already done.

Armenian=Armenian,+Armenian_Hemsheni
Georgian=Georgian_Imer,+Georgian_Laz



Georgian,0.10835960,0.13506550,-0.05811440,-0.05122780,-0.03449870,-0.00872940,0.01015250,-0.00519230,-0.05675520,-0.01525330,0.00121790,0.01150970,-0.02157060,0.00567000,-0.00108580,-0.02031270,0.00988310,-0.00392740,-0.00624710,0.01288120,0.00893410,0.00169400,-0.00067780,-0.00788050,-0.00144900
Armenian,0.10509315,0.13768585,-0.05823490,-0.06060000,-0.03175850,-0.01561800,0.00589615,-0.00656435,-0.03826240,-0.00506190,0.00201840,0.00339870,-0.00773695,0.00172020,-0.00649520,-0.00460265,0.00474855,0.00030305,0.00022010,0.0008 9650,0.00294790,0.00317855,-0.00264765,-0.00425920,0.00036025

If you want a different one, post the exacts samples with whom make the mean in the way I indicated previously, because I donīt know which ones would do a good Caucasus average.

Maybe Armenian+Georgian+some more? Which ones?

gixajo
08-26-2020, 11:16 AM
What those coordinates and Codes mean?:confused:

Here you can inform yourself about G25, and ask for your G25 coordinates (Paypal 12$):

https://eurogenes.blogspot.com/2019/07/getting-most-out-of-global25_12.html

Chris596
08-26-2020, 11:22 AM
I have an Armenian and a Georgian average already done.

Armenian=Armenian,+Armenian_Hemsheni
Georgian=Georgian_Imer,+Georgian_Laz



Georgian,0.10835960,0.13506550,-0.05811440,-0.05122780,-0.03449870,-0.00872940,0.01015250,-0.00519230,-0.05675520,-0.01525330,0.00121790,0.01150970,-0.02157060,0.00567000,-0.00108580,-0.02031270,0.00988310,-0.00392740,-0.00624710,0.01288120,0.00893410,0.00169400,-0.00067780,-0.00788050,-0.00144900
Armenian,0.10509315,0.13768585,-0.05823490,-0.06060000,-0.03175850,-0.01561800,0.00589615,-0.00656435,-0.03826240,-0.00506190,0.00201840,0.00339870,-0.00773695,0.00172020,-0.00649520,-0.00460265,0.00474855,0.00030305,0.00022010,0.0008 9650,0.00294790,0.00317855,-0.00264765,-0.00425920,0.00036025

If you want a different one, post the exacts samples with whom make the mean in the way I indicated previously, because I donīt know which ones would do a good Caucasus average.

Maybe Armenian+Georgian+some more? Which ones?

Well idk, these ones look good I think :) I usually get Georgian instead of Armenian (using G25 models and Admixture Studio as well), do you think that indicates something? Or it's not important because these populations are similar to each other anyway? I tried it with the other averages posted here and I basically got the same amount of Levantine (~4.2%).


Target: Chris_scaled
Distance: 1.9846% / 0.01984621
55.0 Romanian
25.4 Croatian
11.6 Russian_Voronez
4.2 Georgian
2.2 Ukrainian
1.6 Han_Guangdong

itilvolga
08-26-2020, 11:30 AM
Well idk, these ones look good I think :) I usually get Georgian instead of Armenian (using G25 models and Admixture Studio as well), do you think that indicates something? Or it's not important because these populations are similar to each other anyway? I tried it with the other averages posted here and I basically got the same amount of Levantine (~4.2%).


Target: Chris_scaled
Distance: 1.9846% / 0.01984621
55.0 Romanian
25.4 Croatian
11.6 Russian_Voronez
4.2 Georgian
2.2 Ukrainian
1.6 Han_Guangdong


I don’t think that your Caucasian side comes from Armenians. Szekely people have a past in Pontic Steppe, the steppeland stretching from the northern shores of the Black Sea so I attribute your Ukrainian and Georgian scores to that reason.

gixajo
08-26-2020, 11:50 AM
Well idk, these ones look good I think :) I usually get Georgian instead of Armenian (using G25 models and Admixture Studio as well), do you think that indicates something? Or it's not important because these populations are similar to each other anyway? I tried it with the other averages posted here and I basically got the same amount of Levantine (~4.2%).

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I donīt know a lot about genetics from your area, but in this forum you have great "connaisseurs" about genetics of people from your area,

Although you already know that there are many enmities and old quarrels that sometimes cause some to have quite biased opinions about the genetics of neighboring areas to Hungary and Hungary itself.

No area of ​​Europe escapes biased opinions, but in the Balkans there seems to be a constant struggle at various levels to impose their vision of the historical and genetic narrative,
between different groups.


The Hungarians are not "pure" Balkans, because you are a border population between Central Europe, the Balkans and Eastern Europe, but something also tends to sprinkle you from all those struggles.:)

From what I have come to see in this forum. MaybeI have not been able to read all the nuances well, but in general I think my opinion is quite close to reality.

gixajo
08-27-2020, 04:01 PM
Can you do an average for the Caucasus as well? I know the Turkish_East G25 average is really similar to Armenians for example, I just don't know if it's reasonable to do this and what population averages should we use. Maybe someone else has an idea?

I made these two:

North_Caucasus,=Ingushian,+Tabasaran,+Adygei,+Chec hen,
South_Caucasus=Armenian,(Armenian,+Armenian_Hemshe ni)+Georgian,(Georgian_Imer,+Georgian_Laz)


North_Caucasus,0.1118315,0.1024153,-0.0287335,-0.0090908,-0.0356423,0.0042915,0.0086275,-0.0047280,-0.0549838,-0.0298180,-0.0004145,0.0068230,-0.0156533,-0.0030655,0.0105975,-0.0093328,0.0040275,-0.0036700,-0.0081430,0.0127298,0.0042930,0.0017125,0.0033763, 0.0023808,-0.0027710
South_Caucasus,0.1067264,0.1363757,-0.0581747,-0.0559139,-0.0331286,-0.0121737,0.0080243,-0.0058783,-0.0475088,-0.0101576,0.0016182,0.0074542,-0.0146538,0.0036951,-0.0037905,-0.0124577,0.0073158,-0.0018122,-0.0030135,0.0068889,0.0059410,0.0024363,-0.0016627,-0.0060699,-0.0005444