View Full Version : Bulgarian results
Peterski
08-28-2020, 06:53 AM
Some interesting Bulgarians:
Eurogenes K15:
Bulgarian1,9.93,14.43,17.15,9.37,17.03,11.38,19.54 ,0.05,0.4,0,0,0.19,0.53,0,0
Bulgarian2,16.09,10.01,14.31,8.41,11.35,13.69,23.2 7,1.91,0,0,0,0,0.75,0.23,0
Bulgarian3,13.06,10.99,16.19,11.94,12.14,17.04,16. 29,0,0,1.03,0,0.2,0.17,0.94,0
Bulgarian4,9.72,17.76,18.31,10.37,10.59,12.53,17.8 4,0.44,0.93,0,0,0,0.75,0,0.76
Bulgarian5,16.87,4.79,17.81,11.05,14.19,15.68,16.7 5,0.86,0,0.48,0.79,0,0.65,0.07,0
Bulgarian6,11.6,12.39,17.24,8.37,12.53,13.45,17.41 ,2.23,1.23,0.29,1.86,0.03,0.21,0,1.15
Bulgarian7,10.96,20.35,13.26,9.81,9.54,15.57,17.38 ,0,1.57,1.3,0,0.23,0.03,0,0
Bulgarian8,18.72,13.78,16.05,9.1,12.74,10.61,14.55 ,2.83,0,0,0.55,0.69,0.39,0,0
Eurogenes K13:
Bulgarian1,17.09,24.33,21.49,11.63,22.77,0.27,0.7, 0.57,0,0.56,0.6,0,0
Bulgarian2,19.14,22.64,14.08,14.21,25.44,2.34,0,0. 55,0,0,1.01,0.59,0
Bulgarian3,16.94,24.9,18.21,16.54,19.64,0,0.12,1.1 6,0.45,0.67,0.29,1.07,0
Bulgarian4,21.48,25.17,16.48,12.24,20.45,0,1.53,0, 0.53,0.11,1.02,0.21,0.77
Bulgarian5,15.73,26.9,18.74,15.02,19.01,1.38,0,1.0 2,1.13,0,0.82,0.25,0
Bulgarian6,18.48,22.99,16,12.82,21.87,2.11,1.57,0. 38,2.08,0.27,0.31,0,1.14
Bulgarian7,23.71,20.96,14.48,17.13,19.24,0,1.43,2. 24,0,0.61,0.19,0,0
Bulgarian8,25.41,23.78,16.17,10.73,18.96,2.38,0,0. 18,0.89,0.9,0.6,0,0
Vojnik
08-28-2020, 07:02 AM
In your Eurogenes K13 there's an extra variable that shouldn't be there. In Bulgarian6.
Coming up as error on Vahaduo.
Korovic
08-28-2020, 07:03 AM
In the totall Baltic + North Atlantid looks toghter quiet simmilar precentage. I found Dodecad v3 the most accurate for Eastern/Baltic precentage.
Peterski
08-28-2020, 07:05 AM
In your Eurogenes K13 there's an extra variable that shouldn't be there. In Bulgarian6.
Yes I copy-pasted K15 twice by mistake. Fixed it now, thanks for noticing.
Kaspias
08-28-2020, 07:08 AM
Can you post their Dodecad K12b?
Vojnik
08-28-2020, 07:10 AM
What are these Bulgarians?
I look far from them.
<tbody>
Distance to:
Vojnik(macedonian)
6.21551285
Bulgarian4
7.34806777
Bulgarian6
8.10783572
Bulgarian7
9.22452709
Bulgarian2
9.97180024
Bulgarian1
10.04690002
Bulgarian3
10.58773347
Bulgarian5
</tbody>
Are they Bulgarians from Ukraine or something.
WeirdLookingFellow
08-28-2020, 07:14 AM
What are these Bulgarians?
I look far from them.
<tbody>
Distance to:
Vojnik(macedonian)
6.21551285
Bulgarian4
7.34806777
Bulgarian6
8.10783572
Bulgarian7
9.22452709
Bulgarian2
9.97180024
Bulgarian1
10.04690002
Bulgarian3
10.58773347
Bulgarian5
</tbody>
Are they Bulgarians from Ukraine or something.
Their results seem normal to me, lower NA than Romanians, slightly higher East Med and similar if somewhat lower Baltic. What you'd expect of going south of Romania.
Peterski
08-28-2020, 07:15 AM
Can you post their Dodecad K12b?
Their Dodecad K12b:
Bulgarian1,5.49,0,0.87,0.99,29.18,29.73,0,0,4.97,0 ,28.77,0
Bulgarian2,6.44,0,0,0.6,22.92,28.84,0,0,9.63,0,31. 57,0
Bulgarian3,3.82,1.74,0,0.32,24.56,31.59,0.22,0.77, 6.26,0.13,30.59,0
Bulgarian4,5.03,0.62,1.97,0,24.85,33.61,0.68,0.49, 6.22,0,26.24,0.3
Bulgarian5,4.47,0.02,0.53,0,23.7,34.22,0,0.09,5.46 ,3.02,28.5,0
Bulgarian6,3.83,2.32,1.4,0,22.51,30.95,0.77,0,8.95 ,0.98,28.03,0.27
Bulgarian7,9.32,1.12,1,0,23.16,31.48,0.63,0,5.42,0 .77,27.08,0
Bulgarian8,5.62,0,1.88,0,27.37,35.01,0.91,0,4.76,0 .83,23.62,0
Distance to: Bulgarian8
2.52683597 Montenegrin
2.77414852 Macedonian
4.58689437 Pomak
4.98835644 Serb
5.20171126 R.Moldova_South
Distance to: Bulgarian7
3.62601710 R.Moldova_Gagauz
4.39689663 Turk_Bulgaria
4.56649756 Turk_Romania
4.60644114 Gagauz
5.42202914 R.Moldova_South
Distance to: Bulgarian6
4.22291369 Gagauz
5.06482971 R.Moldova_Gagauz
5.33189460 R.Moldova_South
5.33219467 Pomak
5.71659864 Bulgarian
Distance to: Bulgarian5
3.51435627 Bulgarian
4.04458898 Romanians
4.38612585 Pomak
4.78655408 Bulgarians
5.46417423 Gagauz
Distance to: Bulgarian4
1.76036928 Pomak
3.08365043 R.Moldova_South
3.36481797 Macedonian
3.92490764 R.Moldova_Gagauz
3.98778134 Gagauz
Distance to: Bulgarian3
3.83979166 Bulgarian
4.01874358 Gagauz
4.33580442 Bulgarians
5.20219185 R.Moldova_Gagauz
5.42991713 Romanians
Distance to: Bulgarian2
4.28282617 Turk_Macedonia
5.20588129 Turk_Greece
5.22077580 Gagauz
6.39956249 R.Moldova_Gagauz
7.20908455 Turk_Bulgaria
Distance to: Bulgarian1
3.16577005 Albanian_North
4.23841952 Albanian_Kosovo
5.10167620 Gagauz
5.11124251 R.Moldova_Gagauz
5.20109604 R.Moldova_South
Peterski
08-28-2020, 07:27 AM
Are they Bulgarians from Ukraine or something.
They are all from Bulgaria but probably not all are ethnically Slavic Bulgarians.
Anyway, Bulgaria is more genetically diverse than North Macedonia, for sure.
PS:
As you can see Bulgarians range more or less from Moldovan-like to Albanian-like, and some also have Turkic admixture.
Peterski
08-28-2020, 07:38 AM
Harappa World:
Bulgarian1,0.35,6.8,30.49,30.19,0.54,0,0,0.36,1,0, 26.18,4.09,0,0,0,0
Bulgarian2,0,8.58,29.5,30.03,0.44,0.06,0,0.57,0,0. 53,22.61,7.68,0,0,0,0
Bulgarian3,0.17,7.73,31.02,33.37,0.86,0.56,0.49,0. 01,0.24,0,21.41,3.72,0.22,0.19,0,0
Bulgarian4,0,8.24,25.27,36.07,0,0.65,0,0.6,0.33,0, 22.72,5.32,0,0,0,0.78
Bulgarian5,0.58,7.03,29.47,34.5,0.67,0.2,1.93,0.71 ,0,0,19.89,5.04,0,0,0,0
Bulgarian6,0.12,7.2,25.49,32.11,0.74,2.58,0,0.11,1 .02,0.01,22.16,7.83,0,0,0,0.63
Bulgarian7,0,10.78,26.57,32.4,0,0,1.34,0,0.13,2.08 ,21.9,4.81,0,0,0,0
Bulgarian8,0,8.73,19.43,36.01,0,0,0.93,0.41,1.21,0 ,26.94,6.32,0,0,0,0
Distance to: Bulgarian8
7.96137551 Romanian
9.66663851 Serbian
10.54749259 Bulgarian
Distance to: Bulgarian7
6.60679953 Romanian
6.96354077 Bulgarian
11.10114409 Serbian
Distance to: Bulgarian6
5.57504260 Romanian
6.02854875 Bulgarian
11.55554845 Serbian
Distance to: Bulgarian5
4.23709806 Bulgarian
5.68234987 Romanian
10.30283941 Serbian
Distance to: Bulgarian4
2.58420200 Romanian
4.43181678 Bulgarian
6.92548193 Serbian
Distance to: Bulgarian3
4.97327860 Bulgarian
6.76626928 Romanian
11.64358192 Serbian
Distance to: Bulgarian2
7.02011396 Bulgarian
8.14889563 Romanian
11.67051841 Tuscan1
Distance to: Bulgarian1
7.20684397 Bulgarian
8.46916171 Romanian
9.55458005 Tuscan1
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Turkic K11 calculator:
Southeast European
West Asian
Southeast Asian
Sub-Saharan African
Northeast European
Indian
Northwest European
Turkic
Mongol
Papuan
Northeast Asian
Bulgarian1,36.03,21.08,0.33,0,25.33,1.32,15.39,0,0 ,0,0.52
Bulgarian2,34.43,23.49,0.69,0.06,24.17,1.82,15.34, 0,0,0,0
Bulgarian3,34.5,22.22,0,0,26.52,2.1,10.09,4.56,0,0 ,0
Bulgarian4,32.26,17.55,0,0,29.87,2.82,14.35,3.15,0 ,0,0
Bulgarian5,32.08,22.66,0.74,0,28.87,1.05,11.42,3.0 2,0,0.16,0
Bulgarian6,30.89,18.02,0.29,0.8,33.2,0,9.66,5.13,0 .99,0,1.02
Bulgarian7,34.61,20.85,0.2,0,26.29,2.1,11.77,3.06, 1.12,0,0
Bulgarian8,29.03,18.46,0.68,0.17,29.38,0,21.08,0,0 ,0.02,1.17
Combined Turkic + Mongol + Northeast Asian ranges from 0 percent to 7.14 percent.
Edit:
Southeast Asian should be added too.
vbnetkhio
08-28-2020, 01:09 PM
They are all from Bulgaria but probably not all are ethnically Slavic Bulgarians.
Anyway, Bulgaria is more genetically diverse than North Macedonia, for sure.
PS:
As you can see Bulgarians range more or less from Moldovan-like to Albanian-like, and some also have Turkic admixture.
are these academic samples?
PAGANE
08-29-2020, 09:31 AM
[QUOTE = Peterski; 6868199] Някои интересни българи:
Eurogenes K15:
[code] Bulgarian1,9.93,14.43,17.15,9.37,17.03,11.38,19.54 ,0.05,0.4,0,0,0.19,0.53,0,0
Bulgarian2, 16.09.10.01,14.31,8.41,11.35,13.69,23.27,1.91,0,0, 0,0,0,0,75,0.23,0
Български3,13.06,10.99,16.19,11.94,12.14,17.04,16. 29,0,0,1.03 , 0,0,2,0,17,0,94,0
български4,9,72,17,76,18.31,10.37,10.59,12.53,17.8 4,0.44,0.93,0,0,0,075,0,0.76
български5,16.87,4.79,17.81,11.05 , 14.19,15.68,16.75,0.86,0,0.48,0.79,0.0.65,0.07,0
български6,11.6,12.39,17.24,8.37,12.53,13.45,17.41 ,2.23,1.23,0.29,1.86,0.03,0.21, 0,1.15
български7,10.96,20.35,13.26,9.81,9.54,15.57,17.38 ,0,1.57,1.3,0,0.23,0.03,0,0
български8,18.72,13.78,16.05,9.1,12.74,10.61,14.55 , 2.83,0,0,0.55,0.69,0.39,0,0 [/ код]
Eurogenes K13:
[код] български1,17.09,24.33,21.49,11.63,22.77,0.27,0.7, 0.57,0,0.56,0.6,0,0
български2,19.14,22.64,14.08,14.21,25.44,2.34,0,0. 55 , 0,0,1.01,0.59,0
български3,16.94,24.9,18.21,16.54,19.64,0,0.12,1.1 6,0.45,0.67,0.29,1.07,0
български4,21.48,25.17,16.48,12.24,20.45,0 , 1,53,0,0,53,0.11,1.02,0.21,0.77
български5,15.73,26.9,18.74,15.02,19.01,1.38,0,1.0 2,1.13,0,0.82,0.25,0
български6,18.48,22.99,16,12.82 , 21.87,2.11,1.57,0.38,2.08,0.27,0.31,0,1.14
български7,23.71,20.96,14.48,17.13,19.24,0,1.43,2. 24,0,0.61,0.19,0,0
български8,25.41,23.78 , 16.17,10.73,18.96,2.38,0,0.18,0.89,0.9,0.6,0,0 [/ code] [/ QUOTE]
Ето още седем български резултата
Eurogenes K13
R, 20.77,19.78,15.16,17.40,22.58,2.59,0.00,0.00,0.82, 0.31,0.58,0.00,0.00
M, 23.55,23.00,13.20,15.61,18.26,4.30,1.00,0.52,0.56, 0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
D, 20.20,21.76,15.67,17.16,18.52,4.31,1.43,0.00,0.68, 0.27,0.00,0.00,0.00
Ros, 22.08,20.21,21.55,12.60,17.66,1.92,0.41,1.29,0.66, 1.52,0.11,0.00,0.00
Pa, 21.38,19.84,18.18,14.00,19.79,3.82,0.73,0.10,2.09, 0.00,0.07,0.00,0.00
St, 20.48,26.77,17.65,9.81,21.66,1.61,0.00,0.35,0.00,0 .95,0.32,0.40,0.00
Z, 23.01,25.05,19.80,9.44,17.43,1.66,0.58,0.52,0.00,0 .90,0.99,0.62,0.00
Dodecad K12b
R,8.98,0.62,1.32,0.08,24.95,27.49,0.00,0.00,8.33,0 .00,28.24,0.00
M,9.38,0.00,1.08,0.59,22.78,31.49,0.00,0.00,8.83,0 .00,25.84,0.00
D,7.86,0.46,0.57,0.00,23.62,30.59,0.00,0.00,8.03,0 .00,28.88,0.00
Ros,6.97,0.33,0.52,0.00,29.28,29.97,0.14,0.00,6.52 ,1.66,24.61,0.00
Pa, 8.16,1.25,0.00,0.00,25.87,28.74,0.00,0.00,9.21,0.4 3,26.30,0.00
St, 3.56,0.18,0.94,0.07,24.71,35.57,0.00,0.58,7.48,0.4 7,26.45,0.00
Z, 4.20,0.64,3.06,0.37,27.95,34.59,0.71,0.08,4.83,0.3 6,23.22,0.00
Eurogenes K15
M,16.38,14.69,14.15,9.70,9.31,15.57,14.65,4.58,0.7 2,0.23,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
D,17.24,9.81,16.00,7.30,11.08,16.98,15.45,4.74,1.2 0,0.00,0.19,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
R,12.75,14.42,14.69,7.43,10.40,17.28,19.15,3.17,0. 00,0.00,0.26,0.00,0.46,0.00,0.00
Ros,14.08,15.25,13.25,9.68,16.52,10.99,15.75,1.86, 0.09,1.33,0.00,1.19,0.00,0.00,0.00
Pa,14.59,13.94,15.48,5.08,14.50,13.24,17.09,3.85,0 .54,,0.00,1.68,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
St,11.22,17.98,16.65,11.02,13.42,9.90,17.65,1.47,0 .00,0.00,0.00,0.48,0.17,0.00,0.00
Z,12.73,18.25,19.09,6.55,15.55,9.93,13.18,2.22,0.3 6,0.00,0.00,0.82,0.95,0.33,0.00
HarappaWorld
M,0.00,10.40,24.55,32.91,0.16,0.00,0.10,0.33,0.00, 0.82,20.54,10.15,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
D,0.20,9.83,27.24,32.24,0.00,0.66,0.23,0.00,0.17,0 .00,21.52,7.92,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
R,0.00,9.41,28.38,30.34,0.00,0.87,0.21,0.26,0.00,0 .00,21.54,8.84,0.00,0.00,0.14,0.00
Ros,0.00,10.48,21.57,31.73,0.00,0.00,1.27,0.00,0.8 0,0.08,27.46,6.60,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Pa,0.40,8.14,26.18,32.63,0.00,0.51,0.37,0.00,0.00, 1.21,21.60,8.95,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
St,0.00,6.70,24.61,36.66,0.00,0.00,0.24,0.12,0.88, 0.14,22.87,7.27,0.00,0.00,0.51,0.00
Z,0.00,6.28,22.35,36.97,0.00,1.65,0.00,0.61,0.00,0 .00,25.52,5.88,0.00,0.41,0.00,0.31
bained
08-29-2020, 02:06 PM
Man, what kind of Bulgarians are these? I barely score some closeness with Bulgarian8 and nothing to PAGANE samples. I'm a weirdo.
Ion Basescul
08-29-2020, 02:22 PM
Some interesting Bulgarians:
Eurogenes K13:
Bulgarian1,17.09,24.33,21.49,11.63,22.77,0.27,0.7, 0.57,0,0.56,0.6,0,0
Bulgarian2,19.14,22.64,14.08,14.21,25.44,2.34,0,0. 55,0,0,1.01,0.59,0
Bulgarian3,16.94,24.9,18.21,16.54,19.64,0,0.12,1.1 6,0.45,0.67,0.29,1.07,0
Bulgarian4,21.48,25.17,16.48,12.24,20.45,0,1.53,0, 0.53,0.11,1.02,0.21,0.77
Bulgarian5,15.73,26.9,18.74,15.02,19.01,1.38,0,1.0 2,1.13,0,0.82,0.25,0
Bulgarian6,18.48,22.99,16,12.82,21.87,2.11,1.57,0. 38,2.08,0.27,0.31,0,1.14
Bulgarian7,23.71,20.96,14.48,17.13,19.24,0,1.43,2. 24,0,0.61,0.19,0,0
Bulgarian8,25.41,23.78,16.17,10.73,18.96,2.38,0,0. 18,0.89,0.9,0.6,0,0
Is that a random choice of an adjective, or is there something interesting in there? They look like Bulgarians from Moldova, so nothing special from my POV.
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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan
22.13
22.19
17.51
12.44
19.22
4.36
0.31
0
1.73
0
0.13
0
0
24.47
17.09
19.61
13.66
17.82
2.93
2.64
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0.81
0.14
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Ion Basescul
08-29-2020, 02:41 PM
<tbody>
Distance to:
Bulgarian_Moldova_Cantemir
8.45791937
Bulgarian7
8.65704915
Bulgarian8
10.22214263
Bulgarian4
10.29682961
Bulgarian6
12.19884421
Bulgarian3
12.28725356
Bulgarian1
12.57136031
Bulgarian2
13.72792410
Bulgarian5
</tbody>
<tbody>
Distance to:
Bulgarian_Moldova
4.88458801
Bulgarian8
5.63306311
Bulgarian6
5.94103526
Bulgarian4
7.98979975
Bulgarian7
8.44530639
Bulgarian2
8.68364555
Bulgarian3
8.93379539
Bulgarian1
9.07044652
Bulgarian5
</tbody>
With Pagane's samples
<tbody>
Distance to:
Bulgarian_Moldova_Cantemir
5.34273338
Ros
5.49960908
Pa
8.45791937
Bulgarian7
8.48573509
D
8.65704915
Bulgarian8
9.21639843
R
9.29573558
M
9.55145539
Z
10.22214263
Bulgarian4
10.29682961
Bulgarian6
12.19884421
Bulgarian3
12.28725356
Bulgarian1
12.35221842
St
12.57136031
Bulgarian2
13.72792410
Bulgarian5
</tbody>
<tbody>
Distance to:
Bulgarian_Moldova
3.14699857
Pa
4.88458801
Bulgarian8
5.63306311
Bulgarian6
5.70201719
D
5.81266720
Ros
5.86131385
M
5.94103526
Bulgarian4
6.24198686
Z
6.96143663
St
7.30938438
R
7.98979975
Bulgarian7
8.44530639
Bulgarian2
8.68364555
Bulgarian3
8.93379539
Bulgarian1
9.07044652
Bulgarian5
</tbody>
PAGANE
08-29-2020, 03:02 PM
Eurogenes K13 original spredsheet
<tbody>
Target
Distance
Bulgarian1
Bulgarian2
Bulgarian3
Bulgarian4
Bulgarian5
Bulgarian6
Bulgarian7
Bulgarian8
R
3.67549393
•
0.0
52.6
0.2
0.0
0.0
0.0
47.2
0.0
M
4.37993251
•
0.0
6.8
0.0
0.0
3.8
0.0
52.4
37.0
D
4.48923197
•
0.0
0.0
0.0
0.0
23.0
23.2
53.8
0.0
Ros
5.80406652
•
41.0
0.0
0.0
0.0
0.0
0.0
22.2
36.8
Pa
4.65537101
•
8.4
0.0
0.0
0.0
0.0
42.8
26.2
22.6
St
3.40710801
•
39.6
1.0
0.0
22.8
3.4
0.0
0.0
33.2
Z
4.00576516
•
27.8
0.0
0.0
0.0
2.6
0.0
0.0
69.6
Average
4.34528130
•
16.7
8.6
0.0
3.3
4.7
9.4
28.8
28.5
</tbody>
PAGANE
08-29-2020, 03:06 PM
Dodecad K12b
<tbody>
Target
Distance
Bulgarian1
Bulgarian2
Bulgarian4
Bulgarian5
Bulgarian6
Bulgarian7
Bulgarian8
R
3.61343038
•
18.2
45.2
0.0
0.0
0.0
36.6
0.0
M
3.63831194
•
0.0
20.0
0.0
0.0
3.4
68.8
7.8
D
0.91120986
•
0.0
51.8
0.0
0.0
0.0
38.6
9.6
Ros
3.98820676
•
56.4
0.0
0.0
0.0
0.0
7.4
36.2
Pa
4.31623899
•
22.6
29.2
0.0
0.0
8.8
34.4
5.0
St
2.86412141
•
0.0
0.0
67.2
28.0
0.0
0.0
4.8
Z
2.20868716
•
1.8
0.0
0.0
0.0
0.2
0.0
98.0
Average
3.07717236
•
14.1
20.9
9.6
4.0
1.8
26.5
23.1
</tbody>
Peterski
08-29-2020, 08:07 PM
They might have ancestry from Moldova but they live in Bulgaria.
I thought they were interesting because they are indeed close to Gagauzes of Moldova.
PAGANE
08-30-2020, 06:18 AM
[QUOTE = Peterski; 6870450] Може да имат потекло от Молдова, но живеят в България.
Мислех, че са интересни, защото наистина са близки до гагаузите от Молдова. [/ ЦИТОВЕ]
In fact, I don't know if you know, but the Gagauz in Moldova are immigrants from today's Bulgaria
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