I need Hungarian members and members from neighbouring countries to check this reference(G25 scaled.

[gixajo]

For Hungarians, and for any people with some known Hungarian input, but I need also collaboration of people from other countries (countries posted in the second group of references, or mixed between those countries)

I´ve made a Hungarian reference, using individual averages from datasheet mixed with other G25 "alternative" coordinates (based in Gedmatch) of Hungarian people, and I want to see if they discriminate well Hungarian from other neighbouring and close or related countries (hard work, I know it), better than official ones.

The new reference is this:


Hungarian:B,0.126710,0.125490,0.044271,0.034419,0. 034321,0.011358,0.006558,0.006420,0.004916,-0.005837,-0.002537,-0.001960,0.003476,0.008790,-0.004186,0.001321,0.004641,-0.000695,0.002875,-0.000161,-0.002889,0.000394,0.004839,0.002371,0.000190

And I want you to run it with those from neighbouring countries taken from modern population averages datasheet.



Moldovan,0.123932,0.127666,0.040145,0.020065,0.027 646,0.008353,0.007173,0.006615,-0.000974,-0.002031,-0.001744,-0.00197,0.005033,0.014087,-0.010887,-0.0037,0.004119,-0.000356,0.003415,-0.001129,-0.004067,0.000271,0.00351,-0.000485,-0.000319
Serbian,0.126571,0.137706,0.037033,0.013824,0.0298 52,0.003012,0.003854,0.006,0.001186,0.002624,-0.001072,-0.000689,0.004281,0.012056,-0.012893,-0.005489,0.006258,-0.000279,0.004676,-0.004927,-0.007836,-0.00183,0.005349,0.00094,-0.00285
Croatian,0.128051,0.133847,0.051892,0.031493,0.035 822,0.012522,0.006016,0.006738,0.001841,-0.005886,-0.001153,-0.002383,0.004727,0.012785,-0.006637,-0.002201,0.002751,-0.000722,0.00181,-0.00075,-0.005166,-0.002424,0.004425,-0.001097,0.00018
Slovakian,0.130441,0.128769,0.062677,0.051486,0.04 1238,0.020024,0.006768,0.0078,-0.001841,-0.011554,-0.001916,-0.003747,0.009871,0.010432,-0.009148,0.009281,0.012934,0.000253,0.00543,0.0023 51,-0.003718,-0.002077,0.004338,0.001928,-0.001892
Slovenian,0.128848,0.135269,0.056191,0.033851,0.03 496,0.012662,0.006533,0.006969,0.003109,-0.004483,-0.003183,-0.002248,0.00223,0.015194,-0.008632,-0.002201,0.000209,0.001368,0.007818,-0.001151,-0.004018,-0.002795,0.001405,-0.001976,0.002179
Austrian,0.129089,0.135005,0.054394,0.032737,0.034 776,0.012567,0.00723,0.006244,0.002827,0.002755,-0.003878,0.000785,-0.001294,0.002785,0.000503,0.003697,0.000222,0.000 79,0.003179,0.000839,-0.000991,-0.002655,0.001667,0.002963,-0.001028
Ukrainian,0.130927,0.124087,0.06835,0.057555,0.037 687,0.021294,0.008765,0.011307,-0.002891,-0.0211,-0.001633,-0.007659,0.015356,0.021633,-0.011235,-0.001097,0.00469,-0.000699,0.002599,0.0017,-0.004499,-0.003479,0.006739,-0.004058,0.000722
Romanian,0.124522,0.13405,0.034167,0.008786,0.0288 36,0.003068,0.003643,0.005907,0.001248,0.00616,-0.003443,-0.00021,-0.000535,0.008051,-0.012663,-0.000517,0.005919,-0.001482,0.003369,-0.003076,-0.006688,-0.002523,0.003734,0.001217,-0.001269



The already known reference for Hungarians is this(you can run twice with every Hungarian reference to see which one is more accurate discriminating this "origin".


Hungarian,0.127076,0.129625,0.055356,0.03643,0.036 38,0.011933,0.006614,0.007533,0.00206,-0.004673,-0.001473,-0.002719,0.003855,0.008749,-0.004372,0.000123,-8.4e-05,-0.000389,0.002649,-0.001322,-0.003378,0.001387,0.005529,0.002694,0.000479

Probably the new reference is a shit, but I need to check it to know it.:rolleyes:

[Lucas]

So you mixed original G25 ref with artificial based on Gedmatch calcs like K13 (using your method previosuly described) ? Which calcs are besides K13?
Interesting I'm waiting for Hungarian users now.

[17571imre]

my mothers results using the wholse source and the new average:
Distance to: cb_scaled
0.02465915 Hungarian:B
0.03014480 Croatian
0.03090766 Austrian
0.03245421 Slovenian
0.03250875 Bosnian
0.03346199 Moldovan
0.03464040 Slovakian
0.03521133 Montenegrin
0.03663310 Moldovan_o
0.03769076 Czech
0.04199276 German
0.04200075 Serbian
0.04227141 Romanian
0.04513689 German_East
0.04672568 Afrikaner
0.04690532 French_Alsace
0.04953881 Belgian
0.04958201 French_Nord
0.04968306 Polish
0.04995972 Ukrainian
0.05032109 Macedonian
0.05073781 French_Seine-Maritime
0.05083800 Bulgarian
0.05149755 Sorb_Niederlausitz
0.05165200 French_Pas-de-Calais

Target: cb_scaled
Distance: 1.9525% / 0.01952515 | ADC: 0.5x
55.2 Hungarian
22.0 Slovakian
13.6 Montenegrin
3.4 Spanish_Soria
3.0 Cossack_Kuban
2.8 Tatar_Crimean_steppe

and now with sources of neighbouring countries:

Target: cb_scaled
Distance: 2.2310% / 0.02230984
41.6 Slovakian
31.0 Hungarian
27.4 Romanian

my mother scores Hungarian as first population on K13 and K15 so it looks good to me thankyou :)

[Jana]

:)

Distance to: Stears_scaled

0.01841273 Hungarian:B
0.02194115 Hungarian
0.02315961 Croatian
0.02380563 Moldovan
0.02697985 Slovenian
0.02906104 Austrian
0.03799824 Serbian
0.03802718 Slovakian
0.04021268 Romanian
0.04603977 Ukrainian

[Ion Basescul]

<tbody>
Distance to:
Ion_Basescul_23andme+LivingDNA


0.03076427
Moldovan


0.03205617
Hungarian:B


0.03711970
Romanian


0.03849729
Croatian


0.03925407
Serbian


0.04152361
Austrian


0.04205061
Slovenian


0.04678970
Slovakian


0.06055976
Ukrainian


</tbody>

Target: Ion_Basescul_23andme+LivingDNA
Distance: 2.7924% / 0.02792410 | ADC: 0.25x
35.6 Moldovan
34.0 Romanian
28.6 Slovakian
1.8 Hungarian

[gixajo]

So you mixed original G25 ref with artificial based on Gedmatch calcs like K13 (using your method previosuly described) ? Which calcs are besides K13?
Interesting I'm waiting for Hungarian users now.

I want to redo Iberians references with this method, and I choose Hungarians due to their difficulty,to check if this method works well, probably this will be a total disaster.

But I wanted to try it.;)

[Lucas]

I want to redo Iberians references with this method, and I choose Hungarians due to their difficulty,to check if this method works well, probably this will be a total disaster.

But I wanted to try it.;)

Two posted results so far are very good.

Can you do the same for Polish ref if you have spare time?:)

[Luke35]

My isolated Hungarian side.. are you sure you did not develop the new average just for my Hungarian side?? :) It's an excellent match haha!


With the above samples + NEW Hungarian average:

Target: Mr.G_dad_scaled
Distance: 2.5494% / 0.02549429 | ADC: 0.25x
94.4 Hungarian
5.6 Romanian

Target: Mr.G_dad_scaled
Distance: 2.5483% / 0.02548348
92.2 Hungarian
7.8 Romanian

-------------------------------------

With the above samples + the original G25 Hungarian average:

Target: Mr.G_dad_scaled
Distance: 2.7629% / 0.02762865 | ADC: 0.25x
46.4 Moldovan
29.6 Hungarian
13.6 Austrian
10.4 Slovakian

Target: Mr.G_dad_scaled
Distance: 2.7574% / 0.02757438
38.6 Moldovan
24.0 Hungarian
17.0 Slovakian
11.8 Austrian
8.6 Romanian

[gixajo]

my mothers results using the wholse source and the new average:


And using only your 2 main origins with your coordinates?

I add Romania reference because they are not any Transylvania reference, but delete it if you see it unnecesary.



Hungarian:B,0.126710,0.125490,0.044271,0.034419,0. 034321,0.011358,0.006558,0.006420,0.004916,-0.005837,-0.002537,-0.001960,0.003476,0.008790,-0.004186,0.001321,0.004641,-0.000695,0.002875,-0.000161,-0.002889,0.000394,0.004839,0.002371,0.000190
Dutch,0.126752,0.131305,0.061094,0.046149,0.040469 ,0.016624,0.006544,0.00808,0.003576,0.000327,-0.006445,0.004587,-0.008708,-0.008842,0.017444,0.005345,-0.008214,0.001267,0.00427,0.002814,0.004691,0.0028 67,0.000268,0.015354,-0.000492
Romanian,0.124522,0.13405,0.034167,0.008786,0.0288 36,0.003068,0.003643,0.005907,0.001248,0.00616,-0.003443,-0.00021,-0.000535,0.008051,-0.012663,-0.000517,0.005919,-0.001482,0.003369,-0.003076,-0.006688,-0.002523,0.003734,0.001217,-0.001269

[Luke35]

And here is the distance to my Hungarian side:


Distance to: Mr.G_dad_scaled
0.03019389 Hungarian
0.03205483 Moldovan
0.03316593 Austrian
0.03415216 Croatian
0.03617158 Slovenian
0.04126210 Romanian
0.04215157 Serbian
0.04317417 Slovakian
0.05550481 Ukrainian

Distance to: Mr.G_dad_scaled
0.02562736 Hungarian:B
0.03205483 Moldovan
0.03316593 Austrian
0.03415216 Croatian
0.03617158 Slovenian
0.04126210 Romanian
0.04215157 Serbian
0.04317417 Slovakian
0.05550481 Ukrainian

[gixajo]

My isolated Hungarian side.. are you sure you did not develop the new average just for my Hungarian side?? :) It's an excellent match haha!


n

Quite similar result.

Sorry I misread it, they are not similars.:picard1:

[gixajo]

Two posted results so far are very good.

Can you do the same for Polish ref if you have spare time?:)

I have 8 free days after tomorrow, so I will have time enough to do it, but I don´t know if the result will be good enough.

[Luke35]

Quite similar result.

Sorry I misread it, they are not similars.:picard1:

I accidentally put my result in my post showing the distance, I fixed it now. Your new average is closer than the original one to my Hungarian side, therefore my conclusion is that it is in fact better. Kidding. :) It looks reasonable though, let's see how other Hungarians score..

[Luke35]

My results with your new Hungarian average + my mother's coordinates in source.

Target: Mr.G_scaled
Distance: 1.2812% / 0.01281177
50.6 Hungarian
49.4 Mr.G_mom_scaled

[17571imre]

And using only your 2 main origins with your coordinates?

I add Romania reference because they are not any Transylvania reference, but delete it if you see it unnecesary.



Hungarian:B,0.126710,0.125490,0.044271,0.034419,0. 034321,0.011358,0.006558,0.006420,0.004916,-0.005837,-0.002537,-0.001960,0.003476,0.008790,-0.004186,0.001321,0.004641,-0.000695,0.002875,-0.000161,-0.002889,0.000394,0.004839,0.002371,0.000190
Dutch,0.126752,0.131305,0.061094,0.046149,0.040469 ,0.016624,0.006544,0.00808,0.003576,0.000327,-0.006445,0.004587,-0.008708,-0.008842,0.017444,0.005345,-0.008214,0.001267,0.00427,0.002814,0.004691,0.0028 67,0.000268,0.015354,-0.000492
Romanian,0.124522,0.13405,0.034167,0.008786,0.0288 36,0.003068,0.003643,0.005907,0.001248,0.00616,-0.003443,-0.00021,-0.000535,0.008051,-0.012663,-0.000517,0.005919,-0.001482,0.003369,-0.003076,-0.006688,-0.002523,0.003734,0.001217,-0.001269



Target: mh_scaled
Distance: 1.3827% / 0.01382725
51.2 Romanian
29.6 Hungarian
19.2 Dutch

without Romanian:

Target: mh_scaled
Distance: 2.1638% / 0.02163835
96.2 Hungarian
3.8 Dutch

it seems i didnt inherit my moms Germanic side or maybe from my dad. i have the same thing on gedmatch. I have the avarege Germanic of a Hungarian.

[Luke35]

it seems i didnt inherit my moms Germanic side or maybe from my dad. i have the same thing on gedmatch. I have the avarege Germanic of a Hungarian.

Your Hungarian side (3/4 of you) is Romanian-like, in fact your dad's Hungarian side looks Bulgarian-like, so your Dutch ancestry simply brings your mid-point into Hungary, I think.

[gixajo]

Target: mh_scaled

it seems i didnt inherit my moms Germanic side or maybe from my dad. i have the same thing on gedmatch. I have the avarege Germanic of a Hungarian.

It´s a pity that Davidsky will not updateG25 modern references datasheet, his averages could be improvable in many people opinion, but his individual averages by country, are a gold mine to do good new regions and national averages.

[Jana]

Target: Stears_scaled
Distance: 1.6911% / 0.01691109

54.4 Hungarian
33.8 Moldovan
11.8 Ukrainian

Stears Szekely half really looks to be north Moldovan like.

[oszkar07]

I cluster better with the known Hungarian sample.

I removed Austrian because as a half Hungarian half NW Euro it tends to be a midpoint for me.

Here is what I got with Austrian removed

Target: Oszkar
Distance: 2.8887% / 0.02888726 | ADC: 0.25x
69.2 Hungarian
30.8 Slovenian

Target: Oszkar
Distance: 2.8887% / 0.02888686
68.2 Hungarian
31.8 Slovenian


Distance to: Oszkar
0.02924778 Hungarian
0.03050339 Slovenian
0.03343146 Croatian
0.03805212 Hungarian:B
0.04568171 Moldovan
0.04845949 Slovakian
0.05206404 Serbian
0.05278091 Ukrainian
0.05577007 Romanian

[Luke35]

Gixajo's new Hungarian sample with the Modern Averages Spreadsheet:

Target: Hungarian_B
Distance: 0.8222% / 0.00822190 | ADC: 0.5x
75.8 Hungarian
11.2 Moldovan
9.4 Croatian
3.6 Roma_Balkans

Target: Hungarian_B
Distance: 0.5872% / 0.00587222 | ADC: 0.25x
58.0 Hungarian
21.6 Croatian
6.2 Slovakian
6.0 Roma_Balkans
5.2 Montenegrin
2.8 French_Seine-Maritime
0.2 Australian

----------------------------------------

Gixajo's new Hungarian sample with the original Hungarian sample removed:

Target: Hungarian_B
Distance: 0.9206% / 0.00920617 | ADC: 0.5x
71.0 Croatian
8.4 Austrian
7.8 Moldovan
5.2 Moldovan_o
5.0 Afrikaner
1.6 Roma_Madrid
0.4 Bahun
0.4 Jatt_Pathak
0.2 Santhal

Target: Hungarian_B
Distance: 0.5541% / 0.00554129 | ADC: 0.25x
53.2 Croatian
9.6 Czech
9.6 Moldovan
8.8 Slovakian
6.0 Roma_Madrid
4.6 Shetlandic
2.2 Austrian
1.4 French_Seine-Maritime
1.4 Turkish_Rumeli
1.2 Cossack_Kuban
0.8 Moldovan_o
0.4 Australian
0.4 Roma_Balkans
0.2 Montenegrin
0.2 Norwegian

[oszkar07]

When I include Austrian

Target: Oszkar
Distance: 2.7441% / 0.02744106 | ADC: 0.25x
55.8 Austrian
23.2 Slovenian
21.0 Hungarian


Target: Oszkar
Distance: 2.7436% / 0.02743613
57.8 Austrian
23.6 Slovenian
17.0 Hungarian
1.6 Ukrainian


Distance to: Oszkar
0.02852273 Austrian
0.02924778 Hungarian
0.03050339 Slovenian
0.03343146 Croatian
0.03805212 Hungarian:B
0.04568171 Moldovan
0.04845949 Slovakian
0.05206404 Serbian
0.05278091 Ukrainian
0.05577007 Romanian

[Luke35]

When I include Austrian

Does the new Hungarian sample work any better when combined with the English or Irish modern average, for you? Or how about when paired with that English individual sample you recently found?

[oszkar07]

Does the new Hungarian sample work any better when combined with the English or Irish modern average, for you? Or how about when paired with that English individual sample you recently found?

Works ok with Modern individual English samples.
This below is against all individual English samples included ...so if I go through process of narrowing down English samples it may increase % of Hungarian sample.

Target: Oszkar
Distance: 2.0468% / 0.02046828 | ADC: 0.25x
51.6 English
38.6 Hungarian
9.8 English_Cornwall

Target: Oszkar
Distance: 2.0459% / 0.02045858
53.0 English
39.6 Hungarian
7.4 English_Cornwall

[Scandal]

With hungarians in the source population

Target: Universe_scaled:K13&K15
Distance: 1.0797% / 0.01079670
45.4 Ukrainian
25.2 Hungarian
16.0 Moldovan
12.4 Croatian
1.0 Austrian


Distance to: Universe_scaled:K13&K15
0.02019825 Croatian
0.02183687 Slovenian
0.02310041 Hungarian:B
0.02696915 Slovakian
0.02765738 Ukrainian
0.03183399 Austrian
0.03363844 Moldovan
0.04532757 Serbian
0.05126143 Romanian
without the new hungarian avarage

Target: Universe_scaled:K13&K15
Distance: 1.1180% / 0.01118004
50.4 Ukrainian
29.2 Moldovan
12.6 Austrian
7.8 Croatian


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJrDtDxQ6CM

[WeirdLookingFellow]

First two are without Austrian.

Target: Fellow_scaled
Distance: 2.1678% / 0.02167838
67.0 Romanian
20.2 Moldovan
9.6 Slovakian
3.2 Slovenian

Target: Fellow_scaled
Distance: 2.1717% / 0.02171740 | ADC: 0.25x
63.0 Romanian
27.0 Moldovan
6.0 Slovakian
4.0 Slovenian

Target: Fellow_scaled
Distance: 2.1140% / 0.02113991 | ADC: 0.25x
54.8 Romanian
25.8 Moldovan
19.4 Austrian

Target: Fellow_scaled
Distance: 2.1134% / 0.02113369
54.8 Romanian
24.2 Moldovan
21.0 Austrian

[Dunai]

Distance to: Dunai
0.01997669 Hungarian:B
0.02296198 Hungarian
0.02604545 Croatian
0.02636972 Austrian
0.03082855 Slovenian
0.03214386 Moldovan
0.03398457 Slovakian
0.04378284 Serbian
0.04524608 Ukrainian
0.04540212 Romanian

Target: Dunai
Distance: 1.9154% / 0.01915407
72.6 Hungarian
14.2 Austrian
8.2 Slovakian
5.0 Ukrainian

[Benyzero]

g25 is gay

[Chris596]

It doesn't matter for me because I never get Hungarian lol:

Target: Chris_scaled
Distance: 2.0622% / 0.02062186
74.8 Moldovan
20.2 Romanian
5.0 Slovakian

If I remove the Moldovan reference:

Target: Chris_scaled
Distance: 2.1950% / 0.02195033
77.8 Romanian
22.2 Ukrainian

If there was a Bulgarian or also Greek/Turkish reference I bet I would get some of it too.

[Chris596]

Omg I've tried both of the Hungarian samples from the Op post and I never get any, it's so frustrating. No matter how many ways I do it, ADC 0.25x, 0.5x, 1x, 2x, if I remove something or add something, I just can't get Hungarian results.

Yeah, looks like my father is a really, really southern shifted Hungarian :coffee:

If I add all the Greek and Turkish references...:

Target: Chris_scaled
Distance: 2.0028% / 0.02002821
27.0 Moldovan
26.6 Ukrainian
24.4 Greek_Peloponnese
6.8 Austrian
6.8 Croatian
4.4 Turkish_Northwest
4.0 Slovakian



Distance to: Greek_Peloponnese
0.01231924 Greek_Izmir
0.02268510 Italian_Abruzzo
0.02274492 Italian_Molise
0.02388231 Italian_Basilicata
0.02445632 Italian_Apulia
0.02454062 Greek_Thessaly
0.02493180 Greek_Central_Macedonia
0.02532704 Italian_Umbria
0.02621938 Albanian
0.02654081 Italian_Marche
0.02739828 Italian_Lazio
0.02916692 Italian_Campania
0.03154593 Italian_Tuscany
0.03274046 Italian_Calabria
0.03466555 Ashkenazi_Belarussia
0.03476301 Sicilian_East
0.03500628 Greek_Crete
0.03700202 Sicilian_West
0.03732744 Ashkenazi_Russia
0.03749265 Ashkenazi_Lithuania
0.03881448 Ashkenazi_Ukraine
0.03954072 Italian_Piedmont
0.03962197 Ashkenazi_Poland
0.04005694 Swiss_Italian
0.04037579 Greek_Kos




Distance to: Turkish_Northwest
0.01353874 Turkish_Balikesir
0.01390578 Turkish_Aydin
0.01625286 Turkish_Southwest
0.01973555 Turkish_South
0.02100273 Turkish_North
0.03743278 Turkish_Central
0.04266629 Turkish_Istanbul
0.04663888 Turkish_Adana
0.05164432 Turkish_Kayseri
0.05606015 Kabardin
0.05621891 Turkish_Rumeli
0.05708447 Kumyk
0.05934084 Azeri
0.05990018 Abazin
0.06181389 Karachay
0.06192060 Cherkes
0.06276990 Circassian
0.06342039 Azeri_Dagestan
0.06394380 Azeri_Turkey
0.06691129 Balkar
0.07038693 Turkish_East
0.07265280 Turkish_Deliorman
0.07714294 North_Ossetian
0.07864243 Ingushian
0.07923907 Roma_Madrid

[Videx]

Distance to: Videx_scaled
0.02725965 Slovenian
0.02783557 Croatian
0.02803118 Hungarian:B
0.02822554 Austrian
0.03030746 Slovakian
0.03606049 Moldovan
0.04176758 Ukrainian
0.04558015 Serbian
0.04863990 Romanian

Target: Videx_scaled
Distance: 2.1666% / 0.02166627
35.0 Slovakian
34.6 Austrian
22.2 Moldovan
8.2 Ukrainian

Target: Videx_scaled
Distance: 2.1687% / 0.02168735 | ADC: 0.25x
39.2 Slovakian
34.8 Austrian
21.4 Moldovan
4.6 Ukrainian

Old reference is closer to me.

Distance to: Videx_scaled
0.02434626 Hungarian
0.02725965 Slovenian
0.02783557 Croatian
0.02822554 Austrian
0.03030746 Slovakian
0.03606049 Moldovan
0.04176758 Ukrainian
0.04558015 Serbian
0.04863990 Romanian

Target: Videx_scaled
Distance: 2.1666% / 0.02166627
34.8 Austrian
34.6 Slovakian
22.2 Moldovan
8.4 Ukrainian

Target: Videx_scaled
Distance: 2.1773% / 0.02177319 | ADC: 0.25x
40.0 Slovakian
26.2 Austrian
18.6 Moldovan
14.6 Hungarian
0.6 Ukrainian

[Luke35]

g25 is gay

G25 is smug

[Ford]

Distance to: Ford
0.02344966 Croatian
0.02486871 Moldovan
0.02570772 Slovenian
0.02676619 Serbian
0.02721329 Hungarian:B
0.02872367 Austrian
0.03034914 Romanian
0.03984264 Slovakian
0.05294805 Ukrainian

Target: Ford
Distance: 1.6385% / 0.01638462
41.6 Romanian
39.4 Slovakian
19.0 Serbian

[Dunai]

I believe the new Hungarian average is much better since look at the major difference in the score I get by using the new one and the old one (on this I barely get any Hungarian, while usually I always get very close results to Hungarian average):

New average:
Target: Dunai
Distance: 1.9154% / 0.01915407
72.6 Hungarian
14.2 Austrian
8.2 Slovakian
5.0 Ukrainian

Old average:
Target: Dunai
Distance: 2.1287% / 0.02128746
34.6 Austrian
29.8 Moldovan
23.8 Slovakian
6.6 Hungarian
5.2 Ukrainian

[Dunai]

Double

[Luke35]

I believe the new Hungarian average is much better since look at the major difference in the score I get by using the new one and the old one (on this I barely get any Hungarian, while usually I always get very close results to Hungarian average):

New average:
Target: Dunai
Distance: 1.9154% / 0.01915407
72.6 Hungarian
14.2 Austrian
8.2 Slovakian
5.0 Ukrainian

Old average:
Target: Dunai
Distance: 2.1287% / 0.02128746
34.6 Austrian
29.8 Moldovan
23.8 Slovakian
6.6 Hungarian
5.2 Ukrainian

It's great for me too, I am using my mother's official G25 coordinates in source, and you can see that gixajo's average fit's my Hungarian side like a glove:

Target: Mr.G_scaled
Distance: 1.2812% / 0.01281177
50.6 Hungarian
49.4 Mr.G_mom_scaled

[gixajo]

When I include Austrian

Target: Oszkar
Distance: 2.7441% / 0.02744106 | ADC: 0.25x
55.8 Austrian
23.2 Slovenian
21.0 Hungarian


Target: Oszkar
Distance: 2.7436% / 0.02743613
57.8 Austrian
23.6 Slovenian
17.0 Hungarian
1.6 Ukrainian


Distance to: Oszkar
0.02852273 Austrian
0.02924778 Hungarian
0.03050339 Slovenian
0.03343146 Croatian
0.03805212 Hungarian:B
0.04568171 Moldovan
0.04845949 Slovakian
0.05206404 Serbian
0.05278091 Ukrainian
0.05577007 Romanian

If I understand well, you are half Hungarian and half British.

Could you try these sources ? I am curious about if an old British Islands refrence I made times ago works well with you. Same for the Irish_TestBC (it´s old too),and English_B (this one is a new reference).

The common Germanic input of Hungarians and British would create some problems probably, but I want to see how they work.

First sources:



Hungarian:B,0.126710,0.125490,0.044271,0.034419,0. 034321,0.011358,0.006558,0.006420,0.004916,-0.005837,-0.002537,-0.001960,0.003476,0.008790,-0.004186,0.001321,0.004641,-0.000695,0.002875,-0.000161,-0.002889,0.000394,0.004839,0.002371,0.000190
British_Islands,0.13165413,0.13707704,0.06136654,0 .04485214,0.03995564,0.01709027,0.00374873,0.00575 732,0.00510017,0.00480905,-0.00518153,0.00578464,-0.01307829,-0.01129563,0.02183706,0.00395673,-0.01089574,0.00277469,0.00292593,0.00235050,0.0050 8376,0.00321609,-0.00117769,0.01363141,0.00036479



And these ones:



Hungarian:B,0.126710,0.125490,0.044271,0.034419,0. 034321,0.011358,0.006558,0.006420,0.004916,-0.005837,-0.002537,-0.001960,0.003476,0.008790,-0.004186,0.001321,0.004641,-0.000695,0.002875,-0.000161,-0.002889,0.000394,0.004839,0.002371,0.000190
British_Islands:English_B,0.1312160,0.1394483,0.06 09480,0.0446023,0.0384147,0.0176677,0.0036983,0.00 65300,0.0059133,0.0047477,-0.0040253,0.0057687,-0.0141070,-0.0109737,0.0228867,0.0066203,-0.0088890,0.0025470,0.0027787,0.0034053,0.0054313, 0.0030717,-0.0012130,0.0148403,0.0005293
British_Islands:Irish_TestBC,0.1348526,0.1361087,0 .0636853,0.0488373,0.0387137,0.0183944,0.0036176,0 .0048899,0.0051508,-0.0005142,-0.0061089,0.0037207,-0.0138265,-0.0119956,0.0247883,0.0025116,-0.0096953,0.0033035,0.0018612,0.0021349,0.0039181, 0.0032281,0.0018050,0.0164227,0.0032161

[someonenotyou]

New source:
Target:
Distance: 1.6298% / 0.01629824
71.4 Austrian
28.6 Moldovan

Distance to:
0.01856472 Austrian
0.02349987 Hungarian:B
0.02451941 Croatian
0.02613047 Slovenian
0.02756919 Moldovan
0.03471707 Serbian
0.03580854 Romanian
0.04416135 Slovakian
0.05581748 Ukrainian

Old Source:
Target:
Distance: 1.6302% / 0.01630223 | ADC: 0.25x
72.6 Austrian
27.4 Moldovan

Distance to:
0.01856472 Austrian
0.02410273 Hungarian
0.02451941 Croatian
0.02613047 Slovenian
0.02756919 Moldovan
0.03471707 Serbian
0.03580854 Romanian
0.04416135 Slovakian
0.05581748 Ukrainian

Either way it seems I don't get Hungarian despite being fully Hungarian.

[oszkar07]

If I understand well, you are half Hungarian and half British.

Could you try these sources ? I am curious about if an old British Islands refrence I made times ago works well with you. Same for the Irish_TestBC (it´s old too),and English_B (this one is a new reference).

The common Germanic input of Hungarians and British would create some problems probably, but I want to see how they work.

First sources:



Hungarian:B,0.126710,0.125490,0.044271,0.034419,0. 034321,0.011358,0.006558,0.006420,0.004916,-0.005837,-0.002537,-0.001960,0.003476,0.008790,-0.004186,0.001321,0.004641,-0.000695,0.002875,-0.000161,-0.002889,0.000394,0.004839,0.002371,0.000190
British_Islands,0.13165413,0.13707704,0.06136654,0 .04485214,0.03995564,0.01709027,0.00374873,0.00575 732,0.00510017,0.00480905,-0.00518153,0.00578464,-0.01307829,-0.01129563,0.02183706,0.00395673,-0.01089574,0.00277469,0.00292593,0.00235050,0.0050 8376,0.00321609,-0.00117769,0.01363141,0.00036479



And these ones:



Hungarian:B,0.126710,0.125490,0.044271,0.034419,0. 034321,0.011358,0.006558,0.006420,0.004916,-0.005837,-0.002537,-0.001960,0.003476,0.008790,-0.004186,0.001321,0.004641,-0.000695,0.002875,-0.000161,-0.002889,0.000394,0.004839,0.002371,0.000190
British_Islands:English_B,0.1312160,0.1394483,0.06 09480,0.0446023,0.0384147,0.0176677,0.0036983,0.00 65300,0.0059133,0.0047477,-0.0040253,0.0057687,-0.0141070,-0.0109737,0.0228867,0.0066203,-0.0088890,0.0025470,0.0027787,0.0034053,0.0054313, 0.0030717,-0.0012130,0.0148403,0.0005293
British_Islands:Irish_TestBC,0.1348526,0.1361087,0 .0636853,0.0488373,0.0387137,0.0183944,0.0036176,0 .0048899,0.0051508,-0.0005142,-0.0061089,0.0037207,-0.0138265,-0.0119956,0.0247883,0.0025116,-0.0096953,0.0033035,0.0018612,0.0021349,0.0039181, 0.0032281,0.0018050,0.0164227,0.0032161




First Source
wow pretty close to 50/50
Target: Oszkar
Distance: 2.8330% / 0.02833037 | ADC: 0.25x
50.8 Hungarian
49.2 British_Islands

Target: Oszkar
Distance: 2.8330% / 0.02833037
50.8 Hungarian
49.2 British_Islands


Second Source

Target: Oszkar
Distance: 2.9095% / 0.02909468 | ADC: 0.25x
55.2 Hungarian:B
39.2 British_Islands:Irish_TestBC
5.6 British_Islands:English_B

Target: Oszkar
Distance: 2.9094% / 0.02909363
54.8 Hungarian:B
40.6 British_Islands:Irish_TestBC
4.6 British_Islands:English_B

[oszkar07]

New source:
Target:
Distance: 1.6298% / 0.01629824
71.4 Austrian
28.6 Moldovan

Distance to:
0.01856472 Austrian
0.02349987 Hungarian:B
0.02451941 Croatian
0.02613047 Slovenian
0.02756919 Moldovan
0.03471707 Serbian
0.03580854 Romanian
0.04416135 Slovakian
0.05581748 Ukrainian

Old Source:
Target:
Distance: 1.6302% / 0.01630223 | ADC: 0.25x
72.6 Austrian
27.4 Moldovan

Distance to:
0.01856472 Austrian
0.02410273 Hungarian
0.02451941 Croatian
0.02613047 Slovenian
0.02756919 Moldovan
0.03471707 Serbian
0.03580854 Romanian
0.04416135 Slovakian
0.05581748 Ukrainian

Either way it seems I don't get Hungarian despite being fully Hungarian.

Try removing Austrian

[someonenotyou]

Try removing Austrian

Target:
Distance: 2.1357% / 0.02135736
48.2 Hungarian
32.4 Slovenian
19.4 Romanian

[Luke35]

First Source
wow pretty close to 50/50
Target: Oszkar
Distance: 2.8330% / 0.02833037 | ADC: 0.25x
50.8 Hungarian
49.2 British_Islands

Target: Oszkar
Distance: 2.8330% / 0.02833037
50.8 Hungarian
49.2 British_Islands



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