Classify tall Mexican.

[Han Cholo]

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/803/eliseoquionezponce.jpg

He's from the state of Sonora. +1.95 meters tall (around 6'6.) Surnames are Quiñonez Ponce. Please give a detailed classification and where else do you think he can pass.

[Nurzat]

speedy gonzález

[Han Cholo]

speedy gonzález

Good one, anything else?

[Princess of Heaven]

1.90 is not much for a man.
he has a mexican look though usually mexicans are very very short, the tallest I knew was only 1.65 metres tall.

[Han Cholo]

1.90 is not much for a man.
he has a mexican look though usually mexicans are very very short, the tallest I knew was only 1.65 metres tall.

1.90 is not tall? As far I know no single country averages such height. And the man in question is significantly over 1.90 (1.95 or so.) A little cm's more and could be a basketball player.

[research_centre]

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/803/eliseoquionezponce.jpg

He's from the state of Sonora. +1.95 meters tall (around 6'6.) Surnames are Quiñonez Ponce. Please give a detailed classification and where else do you think he can pass.

Where the hell is the image? How can we classify off text?

[Han Cholo]

Where the hell is the image? How can we classify off text?

Server went down apparently :)

Alternate location:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_svyvQmAu3CE/S2SkRYzNfwI/AAAAAAAAF2I/Sx7Skzo5-7k/s400/ELISEO+QUI%C3%91ONEZ+PONCE.jpg

[GeistFaust]

Atlanto-Mediterranid + Alpinoid/Cro-Magnon admixture.

[Han Cholo]

Atlanto-Mediterranid + Alpinoid/Cro-Magnon admixture.

You don't see any Amerindian?

[Kassandros]

^I can see it, El R5.

[Princess of Heaven]

Atlanto-Mediterranid + Alpinoid/Cro-Magnon admixture.

are you joking?

[Rosenrot]

I see very very strong non european influences

[Lábaru]

1.90 is not much for a man.
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He is 195 cm.

[research_centre]

Atlanto-Mediterranid + Alpinoid/Cro-Magnon admixture.

I agree. He appears to be of European descent. The facial structure and height alone clearly indicates that he is not purely native to Mexico.

[research_centre]

I see very very strong non european influences

Where? What are they?

[Han Cholo]

I agree. He appears to be of European descent. The facial structure and height alone clearly indicates that he is not purely native to Mexico.

He looks very Mexican to me (however Mexican =/= Fully Native American). Very common look amongst the Northern lower classes. The only out of norm thing is his height. He probably could pass for some exotic Romanian or Bulgarian but considering he's Mexican and that obviously his European ancestry comes from Spain, it's obvious he has some additional Amerindian admixture because he doesn't look Spanish.

Some other people similar to him:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-6jeV4ZJrVBo/Tk_Dc0rs6jI/AAAAAAAALRk/kbIxWXb0mBs/s400/image_1.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-SYDBrwgIFz4/Tk2DrhCtwLI/AAAAAAAALMw/i7tlUJzxgqg/s400/image_1.jpg

[research_centre]

Server went down apparently :)

Alternate location:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_svyvQmAu3CE/S2SkRYzNfwI/AAAAAAAAF2I/Sx7Skzo5-7k/s400/ELISEO+QUI%C3%91ONEZ+PONCE.jpg

I see. Thanks. :thumb001:

[Lábaru]

1.90 is not much for a man.
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He is 195 cm. I think he is mostly European in blood, apparently only 10/15% of Amerindian, I mean his phenotype I think in blood can have a 30%.

Alpine+Atlantid with slightly Amerindian influences.

[research_centre]

He looks very Mexican to me (however Mexican =/= Fully Native American). Very common look amongst the Northern lower classes. The only out of norm thing is his height.

He does not look very Mexican, at all. One just need look at pure native Mexican taxonomy. The natives have wider rounder faces, are far darker and have an Oriental strain to their eyes. He has none of this. He could be from England for Christ's sake if he were not that tan.

He has something of a Vicente Fox type to me here. I agree with GeistFaust, again.

[research_centre]

He looks very Mexican to me (however Mexican =/= Fully Native American). Very common look amongst the Northern lower classes. The only out of norm thing is his height. He probably could pass for some exotic Romanian or Bulgarian but considering he's Mexican and that obviously his European ancestry comes from Spain, it's obvious he has some additional Amerindian admixture because he doesn't look Spanish.

I didn't read that last part or missed it. Yes, it is clear he is a Mexican of some European descent. I can see a Spanish genetic heritage, but not in height. I am not sure but Amerindian may be there also as indicated.

[Mordid]

He look Mexican, indeed.

[research_centre]

He looks very Mexican to me (however Mexican =/= Fully Native American). Very common look amongst the Northern lower classes. The only out of norm thing is his height. He probably could pass for some exotic Romanian or Bulgarian but considering he's Mexican and that obviously his European ancestry comes from Spain, it's obvious he has some additional Amerindian admixture because he doesn't look Spanish.

Some other people similar to him:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-6jeV4ZJrVBo/Tk_Dc0rs6jI/AAAAAAAALRk/kbIxWXb0mBs/s400/image_1.jpg

It may be me alone but I don't see him as any of these three in classification. The likeness is too slight to say otherwise. The first one does not look like him at all. The middle one either the facial structure (like the first is off in comparison,) and the third not at all. The third man being darker and far more native looking than the man in question.

[research_centre]

Anyone who take on Geistfaust's classification is seriously a retarded. He's not as expert as even Mordid. :coffee:

I beg to differ with you. And clearly take an etiquette class and stop the rude undignified remarks.

[Mordid]

I beg to differ with you. And clearly take an etiquette class and stop the rude undignified remarks.
That goes to everyone here aswell. :wink

[Han Cholo]

He does not look very Mexican, at all. One just need look at pure native Mexican taxonomy. The natives have wider rounder faces, are far darker and have an Oriental strain to their eyes. He has none of this. He could be from England for Christ's sake if he were not that tan.

He has something of a Vicente Fox type to me here. I agree with GeistFaust, again.

Mexican =/= Native. Most Mexicans are Mestizos. One can also look Native and not look Mexican at all:

http://www.elmostrador.cl/images/galerias/categoria2/Mapuches7.jpg

I would never mistake these people for Mexicans.

[hajduk]

He looks mexican to me as well

[Lábaru]

He looks very Mexican to me

The mustache helps a lot with that impression, but yes, I agree, though considerably more robust and especially taller, 195 cm is very tall in Spain and elsewhere in Europe, including Holland, the tallest country in the world.

In fact the club of the world's tallest man is in Holland and for join as a member you only need 190 cm.

[Han Cholo]

The mustache helps a lot with that impression, but yes, I agree, though considerably more robust and especially taller, 195 cm is very tall in Spain and elsewhere in Europe, including Holland, the tallest country in the world.

In fact the club of the world's tallest man is in Holland and for join as a member you only need 190 cm.

What I find interesting is that man hails from some sort of Native-Reservation municipality called Yoreme (named after a Yaque indigenous leader) in Sonora, Northwest Mexico. However, I agree he doesn't look very native, the surnames also don't indicate direct Native ancestry.

[research_centre]

Mexican =/= Native. Most Mexicans are Mestizos. One can also look Native and not look Mexican at all:

http://www.elmostrador.cl/images/galerias/categoria2/Mapuches7.jpg

I would never mistake these people for Mexicans.

I would certainly take them as Mexican.

[Rosenrot]

Where? What are they?

in his face.

And he looks like this mexican american
http://peruwrestling.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/chavoguerrero.jpg

[Gamera]

Maybe it's because it's only one picture, but the Amerindian influence I see in him is very minor.

[Sikeliot]

Castizo

[Han Cholo]

I would certainly take them as Mexican.

I would certainly not and also would certainly call La Migra to deport them back to Argentina or Chile.

[Odoacer]

With his facial expression & mustache, he seems to have a typical Mexican look, unusually tall though he may be. As for classification, hard to say without better photos & different angles - & I'm simply not familiar with any of the terminology for Amerindian phenotypes. He does have a certain facial broadness which I've often seen in mestizos. He could in fact be fully European by phenotype, but with a certain roughness around the edges - I've seen a similar aspect in white Americans of old farming or mountain-dwelling stock.