Which Italian Region Are You Closest to (unscaled)

[alnortedelsur]

To which Italian region are you closest to, from closest to farthest, UNSCALED

Non Italian members are welcome to participate, just for fun.


Italian_Abruzzo,0.0099,0.0146526,-0.0001789,-0.0107632,0.0052368,-0.0045,0.0003316,-0.0009895,0.0018526,0.0114211,0.0003158,0.0024474,-0.0037895,-0.0028368,-0.0045316,-0.0011053,0.0014263,0.0002105,0.0026737,-0.0029526,-0.0030526,0.0010789,0.0007211,0.0014158,-0.0008053
Italian_Aosta_Valley,0.011155,0.014385,0.01041,0.0 0147,0.012015,-0.000555,0.001025,0.001215,0.005,0.01205,-0.002935,0.00329,-0.009905,-0.007525,0.005525,0.00472,0.00398,-0.000225,0.002685,-0.00043,0.002345,0.001575,-0.000745,0.006755,-5e-05
Italian_Apulia,0.0097267,0.0146,-0.001,-0.0124267,0.0051467,-0.00542,-0.0004067,-7e-04,0.0013667,0.0113533,-0.00014,0.0025867,-0.0043533,0.0008667,-0.0059733,-0.00294,0.00128,0.0004733,0.0021867,-0.00412,-0.0030533,0.0015867,0.0014267,0.0011933,-0.0004733
Italian_Basilicata,0.0096,0.0144444,-0.0013222,-0.0125444,0.0043111,-0.0055,0.0004444,-0.0007222,0.0021222,0.0105556,0,0.0020222,-0.0047778,-0.0005667,-0.0066778,-0.0011889,0.0045111,-0.0002556,0.0026778,-0.0041,-0.0015111,0.0018111,0.0018667,0.0022333,0.0002889
Italian_Bergamo,0.01088,0.01484,0.00814,-0.00364,0.01176,-0.00096,0.00046,0.00074,0.00526,0.01518,-0.00086,0.00454,-0.00864,-0.00456,-0.00256,-0.00314,-0.00028,0.00052,0.0041,-0.00444,-0.00084,-2e-05,-0.0034,0.00314,8e-04
Italian_Calabria,0.0090333,0.0144,-0.0031667,-0.0144333,0.0040667,-0.0042,-0.0010333,-0.0013667,0.0022,0.0118,0.0002667,0.0018667,-0.0037,-7e-04,-0.0071,-0.0039667,0.0052333,0.0007667,0.0041,-0.0024333,-0.0021,-0.0019333,-0.0001333,0.0031333,1e-04
Italian_Campania,0.0094708,0.014575,-0.0023625,-0.0135042,0.0044667,-0.0057917,-0.0001917,-0.0009833,0.00205,0.0121833,0.0004833,0.0015583,-0.0034042,-0.0012417,-0.0048958,-0.0005917,0.0021292,-0.0002042,0.0020583,-0.0032208,-0.003275,0.0014958,0.0008583,0.0016333,0.0002417
Italian_Jew,0.00834,0.01434,-0.00495,-0.01749,0.00367,-0.0088,-0.0017,-0.00121,0.0063,0.0105,0.00278,0.00014,0.00145,-0.00209,-0.00487,-0.00093,-0.00092,-0.00083,-0.00089,-0.00287,-0.00313,-0.00125,-1e-04,0.00196,0.0024
Italian_Lazio,0.010075,0.015025,0.001775,-0.01085,0.006925,-0.00415,0.00105,0.000225,0.00335,0.012875,8e-04,0.0019,-0.00515,-0.00515,-0.00505,0.003125,-0.000175,-4e-04,0.00145,-0.00405,-0.0022,0.002725,-3e-04,-3e-04,-4e-04
Italian_Liguria,0.01,0.0144,0.0072,-0.0037,0.0095,-8e-04,0.001,5e-04,0.0047,0.0139,-0.006,0.0019,-0.0088,8e-04,-8e-04,-0.0094,-0.0051,-3e-04,0.003,6e-04,-2e-04,8e-04,0.0032,6e-04,5e-04
Italian_Lombardy,0.01094,0.01456,0.00742,-0.00426,0.01064,-0.00278,0.00028,0,0.00508,0.01642,-0.00154,0.00596,-0.00966,-0.00342,-0.00064,-0.00594,-0.0064,0.0014,0.00274,-0.00328,-0.0018,0.001,-0.00054,0.00254,7e-04
Italian_Marche,0.0103375,0.0145938,0.0022812,-0.0089938,0.0069438,-0.0037125,0.000275,-0.00135,0.003,0.0116938,-0.0003625,0.002925,-0.00575,-0.0012312,-0.0024188,-0.0017563,-0.0002937,0.0009938,0.0021438,-0.0026562,-0.000775,0.0019875,0.0005188,0.0030938,-0.0013938
Italian_Molise,0.0099,0.01445,0.00035,-0.01035,0.00505,-0.00475,0.0019,-0.0013,0.0011,0.01065,0.0023,0.00225,-0.00545,-0.00195,-0.00525,-0.00235,0.0039,0.00145,0.00185,-0.0064,-0.0011,0.00365,-0.00065,0.00295,1e-04
Italian_Northeast,0.0110357,0.0141357,0.0094429,0. 0005357,0.0115143,0.0007286,0.00135,0.0008857,0.00 33643,0.00875,-0.0014571,0.0031857,-0.0056429,-0.0002714,-0.0033714,0.0002714,0.0030857,7e-04,0.00305,-0.0020786,-0.0028286,0.00035,-0.0014571,0.0037929,3e-04
Italian_Piedmont,0.01066,0.01451,0.00554,-0.00452,0.00951,-0.00211,0.00121,7e-05,0.00365,0.01324,-0.00014,0.00424,-0.00665,-0.00328,-0.00116,-0.00204,0.00086,0.00071,0.00173,-0.00306,-0.00206,0.0015,-0.00195,0.00318,-0.00125
Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige,0.0109857,0.0143714,0.0091857,-0.0010857,0.0121,-0.0012143,0.0014286,0.0013,0.0055286,0.0131,-0.0018571,0.0033429,-0.0090429,-0.0020571,-0.0003857,-0.0014143,0.0004571,0.0013143,0.0034,-0.0024143,-0.0011429,0.0022714,-0.0004143,0.0005286,-0.0030714
Italian_Tuscany,0.01042,0.0146467,0.0036067,-0.0063467,0.0085,-0.0032467,-2e-04,-6e-04,0.0036667,0.0131133,-0.00014,0.00364,-0.00798,-0.00334,-0.0017533,-0.00022,0.0030933,0.00038,0.00306,-0.0019133,-0.0009667,0.0019933,-0.0008467,0.00322,-0.0013267
Italian_Umbria,0.0102889,0.0145222,0.0020667,-0.0086667,0.0065111,-0.0032889,-0.0003667,-0.0010444,0.0025556,0.0142222,-0.0002333,0.0036,-0.0068333,-0.0038667,-0.0018333,0.0004333,0.0053333,0.0004667,0.0008444,-0.0018667,-0.0027333,0.0006111,0.0002556,0.0025222,-0.0009111
Italian_Veneto,0.0110375,0.0146,0.0080375,-0.0019062,0.0111375,-0.0001625,0.0008688,0.0008688,0.0049062,0.0126438,-0.001375,0.0036625,-0.0070875,-0.002775,-0.0019875,0.0007188,0.0026688,0.0015438,0.0022688,-0.0033812,-8e-04,0.0023125,-0.0001062,0.0010937,-0.0017938
Sardinian,0.121687,0.167285,0.02849,-0.050652,0.060151,-0.022134,-0.003952,0.002496,0.041574,0.077351,-5.9e-05,0.016649,-0.028664,-0.012974,-0.013572,-0.003001,0.011403,-0.001347,0.00168,-0.012995,-0.002121,-0.001102,-0.010084,-0.021383,0.000337
Sicilian_East,0.1032,0.146574,-0.007291,-0.041129,0.017849,-0.015339,-0.001958,7.7e-05,0.007567,0.021322,0.007307,0.003897,-0.006145,0.003119,-0.005926,-0.006497,-0.002868,-0.00114,0.004483,-0.003877,-4.2e-05,0.002679,-0.00189,0.002289,0.000399
Sicilian_West,0.100164,0.145559,-0.000377,-0.03553,0.019388,-0.009854,-0.000627,0.000538,0.013362,0.022293,0.00341,0.0030 97,-0.00223,0.001881,-0.002262,-0.003182,-0.001869,-4.2e-05,-0.00088,-0.006128,0.000832,0.000824,-0.003204,-0.003494,0.000239

Distance to: Alnortedelsur
0.02389531 Italian_Lombardy
0.02430823 Italian_Liguria
0.02707584 Italian_Bergamo
0.02731684 Italian_Piedmont
0.02743038 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
0.02854474 Italian_Marche
0.02876385 Italian_Veneto
0.02915663 Italian_Tuscany
0.03027126 Italian_Umbria
0.03047540 Italian_Northeast
0.03082019 Italian_Abruzzo
0.03101851 Italian_Lazio
0.03214531 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.03215498 Italian_Apulia
0.03308059 Italian_Campania
0.03360506 Italian_Molise
0.03450013 Italian_Basilicata
0.03496711 Italian_Jew
0.03521518 Italian_Calabria
0.17064594 Sicilian_West
0.17549981 Sicilian_East
0.22662567 Sardinian

Target: Alnortedelsur
Distance: 2.3414% / 0.02341369
54.2 Italian_Lombardy
41.0 Italian_Liguria
4.8 Italian_Jew

[Mixdguy17]

Crap, How do u do this? I wanna participate but I suck at this.

[alnortedelsur]

Crap, How do u do this? I wanna participate but I suck at this.

Do you have G25 coordinates? if you do, all you have to do is copy and paste the code into the "source" tab on this link:

https://vahaduo.github.io/vahaduo/

And your unscaled coordinates in "Target"

Then go on the distances tab, and the single tab and run yourself, and finally copy and paste the results.

[Mortimer]

Distance to: Svetozar
0.02645885 Italian_Northeast
0.02735539 Italian_Veneto
0.02741659 Italian_Basilicata
0.02779746 Italian_Umbria
0.02804673 Italian_Tuscany
0.02833073 Italian_Molise
0.02836422 Italian_Abruzzo
0.02902119 Italian_Marche
0.02914612 Italian_Calabria
0.02931842 Italian_Apulia
0.02969815 Italian_Campania
0.02971453 Italian_Piedmont
0.03018001 Italian_Lazio
0.03031765 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
0.03273842 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.03300790 Italian_Bergamo
0.03505496 Italian_Liguria
0.03588560 Italian_Jew
0.03720358 Italian_Lombardy

[Mortimer]

Target: Svetozar
Distance: 2.4836% / 0.02483630
56.0 Italian_Northeast
44.0 Italian_Basilicata

[Mixdguy17]

Do you have G25 coordinates? if you do, all you have to do is copy and paste the code into the "source" tab on this link:

https://vahaduo.github.io/vahaduo/

And your scaled coordinates in "Target"

Then go on the distances tab, and the single tab and run yourself, and finally copy and paste the results.

Crap, I dont. Oh well, another reason to buy it in the future. I would imagine my Italian would be closer to the center till the south of Italy, but for some reason, on Gedmatch it seems to be Northern shifted. Either way, nice thread hermano!

[alnortedelsur]

Crap, I dont. Oh well, another reason to buy it in the future. I would imagine my Italian would be closer to the center till the south of Italy, but for some reason, on Gedmatch it seems to be Northern shifted. Either way, nice thread hermano!

I edited my post, I meant UNSCALED coordinates.

I recommend you to do it, Rocinante did it before me, and he always said is addictive, and he is right xD

All you have to do is to send an email to this guy:

eurogenesblog@gmail.com

His name is David Wesolowski

And ask him for your Global25 coordinates. He will ask you to send him your raw data, and send a payment by Paypal of only $12

He will send you back your coordinates and will introduce you with some basic guidelines of how to use them.

edit: if you do like if you are going to quote me, you are gonna see the email.

[Mixdguy17]

I edited my post, I meant UNSCALED coordinates.

I recommend you to do it, Rocinante did it before me, and he always said is addictive, and he is right xD

All you have to do is to send an email to this guy:

eurogenesblog@gmail.com

His name is David Wesolowski

And ask him for your Global25 coordinates. He will ask you to send him your raw data, and send a payment from Paypal of only $12

He will send you back your coordinates and will introduce you with some basic guidelines of how to use them.

Yeah Rocinante has recommended me to do it, I havent been able to get around to it since I am a college student and I am broke for the moment XD.

[alnortedelsur]

Yeah Rocinante has recommended me to do it, I havent been able to get around to it since I am a college student and I am broke for the moment XD.

Its Ok, you will eventually. Is only $12 :)

[Mixdguy17]

Its Ok, you will eventually. Is only $12 :)

Ik hermanito, that and taking the AncestryDNA test are my next genetic goals lol. As soon as I get it, u and Rocinante will be the first ones to know :).

[alnortedelsur]

Ik hermanito, that and taking the AncestryDNA test are my next genetic goals lol. As soon as I get it, u and Rocinante will be the first ones to know :).

Que bueno hermano :)

Estare bien pendiente :thumb001:

[hmaohma78]

Distance to: hmaohma78
0.08688234 Italian_Umbria
0.08751023 Italian_Tuscany
0.08776835 Italian_Marche
0.08804787 Italian_Northeast
0.08845617 Italian_Abruzzo
0.08851443 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.08855259 Italian_Piedmont
0.08867110 Italian_Calabria
0.08874885 Italian_Veneto
0.08905945 Italian_Campania
0.08914062 Italian_Molise
0.08916514 Italian_Basilicata
0.08918355 Italian_Apulia
0.08973125 Italian_Jew
0.08986637 Italian_Bergamo
0.08990042 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
0.09021908 Italian_Lombardy
0.09029863 Italian_Lazio
0.09055689 Italian_Liguria

Target: hmaohma78
Distance: 8.6846% / 0.08684558
87.2 Italian_Umbria
12.8 Italian_Aosta_Valley

[Mortimer]

I edited my post, I meant UNSCALED coordinates.



Distance to: Svetozar
0.02645885 Italian_Northeast
0.02735539 Italian_Veneto
0.02741659 Italian_Basilicata
0.02779746 Italian_Umbria
0.02804673 Italian_Tuscany
0.02833073 Italian_Molise
0.02836422 Italian_Abruzzo
0.02902119 Italian_Marche
0.02914612 Italian_Calabria
0.02931842 Italian_Apulia
0.02969815 Italian_Campania
0.02971453 Italian_Piedmont
0.03018001 Italian_Lazio
0.03031765 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
0.03273842 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.03300790 Italian_Bergamo
0.03505496 Italian_Liguria
0.03588560 Italian_Jew
0.03720358 Italian_Lombardy

Target: Svetozar
Distance: 2.4836% / 0.02483630
56.0 Italian_Northeast
44.0 Italian_Basilicata

Target: Svetozar
Distance: 2.4836% / 0.02483644 | ADC: 0.25x
56.4 Italian_Northeast
43.6 Italian_Basilicata

[Kyp]

Distance to: Kyp
0.03058747 Italian_Marche
0.03105366 Italian_Liguria
0.03153346 Italian_Abruzzo
0.03209479 Italian_Northeast
0.03211370 Italian_Piedmont
0.03217776 Italian_Apulia
0.03285815 Italian_Lombardy
0.03329009 Italian_Molise
0.03360459 Italian_Tuscany
0.03373988 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
0.03377230 Italian_Campania
0.03384853 Italian_Lazio
0.03396533 Italian_Veneto
0.03412162 Italian_Basilicata
0.03435318 Italian_Bergamo
0.03494808 Italian_Calabria
0.03547447 Italian_Umbria
0.03635490 Italian_Jew
0.03889188 Italian_Aosta_Valley

[17571imre]

Distance to: MH
0.01656457 Italian_Northeast
0.02124098 Italian_Veneto
0.02245680 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
0.02474925 Italian_Piedmont
0.02555471 Italian_Bergamo
0.02620155 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.02684699 Italian_Tuscany
0.02739051 Italian_Liguria
0.02740784 Italian_Marche
0.02884510 Italian_Lombardy
0.02904683 Italian_Lazio
0.02904876 Italian_Umbria
0.02914973 Italian_Abruzzo
0.03001366 Italian_Molise
0.03062406 Italian_Apulia
0.03090838 Italian_Basilicata
0.03225049 Italian_Campania
0.03379842 Italian_Calabria
0.03726253 Italian_Jew

[gixajo]

Target: gixajo
Distance: 1.9896% / 0.01989615
44.4 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
38.4 Italian_Aosta_Valley
17.2 Italian_Lombardy

Distance to: gixajo
0.02057363 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
0.02194751 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.02275893 Italian_Veneto
0.02319987 Italian_Lombardy
0.02370926 Italian_Bergamo
0.02378019 Italian_Piedmont
0.02606127 Italian_Liguria
0.02615404 Italian_Tuscany
0.02647067 Italian_Northeast
0.02824676 Italian_Umbria
0.02897227 Italian_Marche
0.03044599 Italian_Lazio
0.03273872 Italian_Abruzzo
0.03459610 Italian_Molise
0.03531286 Italian_Apulia
0.03550772 Italian_Campania
0.03662796 Italian_Basilicata
0.03855967 Italian_Calabria
0.03966536 Italian_Jew
************************************************** ***
Target: gixajo_dad
Distance: 1.7389% / 0.01738922
59.2 Italian_Lombardy
23.6 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
17.2 Italian_Aosta_Valley

Distance to: gixajo_dad
0.01830814 Italian_Lombardy
0.01859909 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
0.01922122 Italian_Bergamo
0.01986664 Italian_Piedmont
0.02030276 Italian_Veneto
0.02238938 Italian_Tuscany
0.02278930 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.02386640 Italian_Umbria
0.02423221 Italian_Liguria
0.02439540 Italian_Northeast
0.02521123 Italian_Marche
0.02575390 Italian_Lazio
0.02809006 Italian_Abruzzo
0.03003448 Italian_Molise
0.03054385 Italian_Apulia
0.03066896 Italian_Campania
0.03218011 Italian_Basilicata
0.03372642 Italian_Calabria
0.03483287 Italian_Jew
**************************************
Target: gixajo_mom
Distance: 2.2861% / 0.02286062
70.6 Italian_Lombardy
29.4 Italian_Aosta_Valley

Distance to: gixajo_mom
0.02360703 Italian_Lombardy
0.02558021 Italian_Bergamo
0.02575529 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
0.02688909 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.02726720 Italian_Liguria
0.02766593 Italian_Piedmont
0.02790791 Italian_Veneto
0.03062427 Italian_Northeast
0.03125654 Italian_Tuscany
0.03284559 Italian_Marche
0.03396659 Italian_Umbria
0.03486901 Italian_Lazio
0.03690595 Italian_Abruzzo
0.03786463 Italian_Molise
0.03926268 Italian_Apulia
0.03980869 Italian_Campania
0.04098655 Italian_Basilicata
0.04239093 Italian_Calabria
0.04261036 Italian_Jew

[Chris596]

Distance to: Chris
0.02506689 Italian_Northeast
0.02790852 Italian_Veneto
0.02901063 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
0.03120288 Italian_Piedmont
0.03176870 Italian_Liguria
0.03204733 Italian_Marche
0.03221246 Italian_Tuscany
0.03264544 Italian_Abruzzo
0.03290407 Italian_Apulia
0.03300026 Italian_Umbria
0.03320120 Italian_Molise
0.03332586 Italian_Lazio
0.03343409 Italian_Basilicata
0.03388730 Italian_Bergamo
0.03490743 Italian_Campania
0.03572869 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.03608404 Italian_Lombardy
0.03629887 Italian_Calabria
0.04083538 Italian_Jew

[Impaler]

Distance to: Impaler
0.01631980 Italian_Northeast
0.02005507 Italian_Veneto
0.02057167 Italian_Piedmont
0.02068816 Italian_Marche
0.02083437 Italian_Abruzzo
0.02093195 Italian_Tuscany
0.02114792 Italian_Umbria
0.02177616 Italian_Basilicata
0.02191050 Italian_Molise
0.02223871 Italian_Apulia
0.02280183 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
0.02307802 Italian_Campania
0.02333417 Italian_Calabria
0.02359371 Italian_Lazio
0.02391571 Italian_Bergamo
0.02525965 Italian_Liguria
0.02550520 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.02693321 Italian_Lombardy
0.02857300 Italian_Jew

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

Target: Viriato
Distance: 1.9395% / 0.01939451
66.6 Italian_Lombardy
33.4 Italian_Liguria


Distance to: Viriato
0.01974036 Italian_Lombardy
0.02072655 Italian_Liguria
0.02310284 Italian_Bergamo
0.02319253 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
0.02514755 Italian_Piedmont
0.02540413 Italian_Veneto
0.02781917 Italian_Tuscany
0.02798422 Italian_Marche
0.02811682 Italian_Northeast
0.02854598 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.02970375 Italian_Umbria
0.02971049 Italian_Lazio
0.03074563 Italian_Abruzzo
0.03228337 Italian_Apulia
0.03342844 Italian_Campania
0.03369629 Italian_Molise
0.03439701 Italian_Basilicata
0.03557192 Italian_Calabria
0.03579964 Italian_Jew

My top 5 regions: Lombardy, Liguria, Bergamo (Lombardy), Trentino and Piedmont.

https://i.imgur.com/msToGiJ.png

[gixajo]

[CODE]Target: Viriato
Distance: 1.9395% / 0.01939451


My top 5 regions: Lombardy, Liguria, Bergamo (Lombardy), Trentino and Piedmont.

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You already know it before this, Spanish and Portuguese usually are close to North West Italians.

[gixajo]

...........

No pusiste a los de Cerdeña ni a los sicilianos, que son italianos también.


Sardinian,0.121687,0.167285,0.02849,-0.050652,0.060151,-0.022134,-0.003952,0.002496,0.041574,0.077351,-5.9e-05,0.016649,-0.028664,-0.012974,-0.013572,-0.003001,0.011403,-0.001347,0.00168,-0.012995,-0.002121,-0.001102,-0.010084,-0.021383,0.000337
Sicilian_East,0.1032,0.146574,-0.007291,-0.041129,0.017849,-0.015339,-0.001958,7.7e-05,0.007567,0.021322,0.007307,0.003897,-0.006145,0.003119,-0.005926,-0.006497,-0.002868,-0.00114,0.004483,-0.003877,-4.2e-05,0.002679,-0.00189,0.002289,0.000399
Sicilian_West,0.100164,0.145559,-0.000377,-0.03553,0.019388,-0.009854,-0.000627,0.000538,0.013362,0.022293,0.00341,0.0030 97,-0.00223,0.001881,-0.002262,-0.003182,-0.001869,-4.2e-05,-0.00088,-0.006128,0.000832,0.000824,-0.003204,-0.003494,0.000239

[Thracian]

Distance to: Thracian
0.02146096 Italian_Northeast
0.02195466 Italian_Abruzzo
0.02199257 Italian_Basilicata
0.02231533 Italian_Umbria
0.02250511 Italian_Molise
0.02261951 Italian_Tuscany
0.02304584 Italian_Marche
0.02330379 Italian_Campania
0.02374874 Italian_Apulia
0.02383460 Italian_Veneto
0.02390017 Italian_Lazio
0.02425730 Italian_Calabria
0.02448194 Italian_Piedmont
0.02655284 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
0.02835119 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.02918310 Italian_Bergamo
0.02930612 Italian_Jew
0.03125300 Italian_Liguria
0.03295873 Italian_Lombardy

[Gallop]

Target: Gallop
Distance: 2.4319% / 0.02431866
58.2 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
31.6 Italian_Aosta_Valley
10.2 Italian_Liguria


Distance to: Gallop
0.02466502 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
0.02633840 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.02685956 Italian_Veneto
0.02749698 Italian_Lombardy
0.02824075 Italian_Liguria
0.02825752 Italian_Bergamo
0.02861831 Italian_Piedmont
0.02997215 Italian_Tuscany
0.03181154 Italian_Northeast
0.03182795 Italian_Umbria
0.03235759 Italian_Marche
0.03295805 Italian_Lazio
0.03550117 Italian_Abruzzo
0.03728163 Italian_Molise
0.03803645 Italian_Apulia
0.03839950 Italian_Campania
0.03880192 Italian_Basilicata
0.04113212 Italian_Calabria
0.04254104 Italian_Jew

[andre]

Distance to: Andrei
0.02454943 Italian_Northeast
0.02627775 Italian_Liguria
0.02775779 Italian_Marche
0.02777545 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
0.02782123 Italian_Veneto
0.02802609 Italian_Piedmont
0.02837467 Italian_Apulia
0.02909302 Italian_Lombardy
0.02928432 Italian_Bergamo
0.02939236 Italian_Abruzzo
0.02949525 Italian_Molise
0.03053950 Italian_Tuscany
0.03066076 Italian_Basilicata
0.03160938 Italian_Lazio
0.03172172 Italian_Campania
0.03218713 Italian_Calabria
0.03276090 Italian_Umbria
0.03595998 Italian_Jew
0.03727262 Italian_Aosta_Valley

[Adamm]

Distance to: Adam

0.06562962 Italian_Jew
0.07210715 Italian_Campania
0.07275308 Italian_Calabria
0.07282251 Italian_Umbria
0.07294936 Italian_Abruzzo
0.07346702 Italian_Apulia
0.07352087 Italian_Lazio
0.07377338 Italian_Basilicata
0.07411076 Italian_Marche
0.07481624 Italian_Liguria
0.07529755 Italian_Piedmont
0.07535537 Italian_Tuscany
0.07630269 Italian_Molise
0.07631866 Italian_Lombardy
0.07680085 Italian_Veneto
0.07714644 Italian_Bergamo
0.07743702 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
0.07816863 Italian_Northeast
0.07868467 Italian_Aosta_Valley

Target: Adam
Distance: 6.5630% / 0.06562962

100.0 Italian_Jew

[Gallop]

With Sardinia and Sicily included


Target: Gallop
Distance: 2.4137% / 0.02413680
50.0 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
35.0 Italian_Aosta_Valley
13.6 Italian_Liguria
1.4 Sardinian

Distance to: Gallop
0.02466502 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
0.02633840 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.02685956 Italian_Veneto
0.02749698 Italian_Lombardy
0.02824075 Italian_Liguria
0.02825752 Italian_Bergamo
0.02861831 Italian_Piedmont
0.02997215 Italian_Tuscany
0.03181154 Italian_Northeast
0.03182795 Italian_Umbria
0.03235759 Italian_Marche
0.03295805 Italian_Lazio
0.03550117 Italian_Abruzzo
0.03728163 Italian_Molise
0.03803645 Italian_Apulia
0.03839950 Italian_Campania
0.03880192 Italian_Basilicata
0.04113212 Italian_Calabria
0.04254104 Italian_Jew
0.16667170 Sicilian_West
0.17238114 Sicilian_East
0.21894918 Sardinian

[Grace O'Malley]

Target: Grace_unscaled
Distance: 3.1550% / 0.03155030
100.0 Italian_Aosta_Valley

Distance to: Grace_unscaled
0.03155030 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.03860652 Italian_Northeast
0.03911377 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
0.04034031 Italian_Veneto
0.04204514 Italian_Piedmont
0.04252558 Italian_Bergamo
0.04276856 Italian_Liguria
0.04321377 Italian_Lombardy
0.04394737 Italian_Tuscany
0.04613518 Italian_Marche
0.04717900 Italian_Umbria
0.04935700 Italian_Lazio
0.05018539 Italian_Abruzzo
0.05091090 Italian_Molise
0.05315977 Italian_Apulia
0.05336058 Italian_Basilicata
0.05350180 Italian_Campania
0.05602990 Italian_Calabria
0.05805169 Italian_Jew

[Samnium]

Target: Grace_unscaled
Distance: 3.1550% / 0.03155030
100.0 Italian_Aosta_Valley

Distance to: Grace_unscaled
0.03155030 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.03860652 Italian_Northeast
0.03911377 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
0.04034031 Italian_Veneto
0.04204514 Italian_Piedmont
0.04252558 Italian_Bergamo
0.04276856 Italian_Liguria
0.04321377 Italian_Lombardy
0.04394737 Italian_Tuscany
0.04613518 Italian_Marche
0.04717900 Italian_Umbria
0.04935700 Italian_Lazio
0.05018539 Italian_Abruzzo
0.05091090 Italian_Molise
0.05315977 Italian_Apulia
0.05336058 Italian_Basilicata
0.05350180 Italian_Campania
0.05602990 Italian_Calabria
0.05805169 Italian_Jew

100% Aostan ;)

[Ibericus]

Unscaled coordinates is not accurate, it will give you close distances with hundreds of populations. Better to use "scaled"only

[alnortedelsur]

Unscaled coordinates is not accurate, it will give you close distances with hundreds of populations. Better to use "scaled"only

But I thought unscaled coordinates work better with modern populations, and scaled with Ancient.

[WeirdLookingFellow]

Anyone north of Albania will be North-East and everyone north of Spain and West of Italy will be Aosta valley,

Target: Fellow
Distance: 1.8240% / 0.01823979
100.0 Italian_Northeast

My fit is not even bad, but I already knew I'm a Friulian from the K15 PCA.

[alnortedelsur]

No pusiste a los de Cerdeña ni a los sicilianos, que son italianos también.


Sardinian,0.121687,0.167285,0.02849,-0.050652,0.060151,-0.022134,-0.003952,0.002496,0.041574,0.077351,-5.9e-05,0.016649,-0.028664,-0.012974,-0.013572,-0.003001,0.011403,-0.001347,0.00168,-0.012995,-0.002121,-0.001102,-0.010084,-0.021383,0.000337
Sicilian_East,0.1032,0.146574,-0.007291,-0.041129,0.017849,-0.015339,-0.001958,7.7e-05,0.007567,0.021322,0.007307,0.003897,-0.006145,0.003119,-0.005926,-0.006497,-0.002868,-0.00114,0.004483,-0.003877,-4.2e-05,0.002679,-0.00189,0.002289,0.000399
Sicilian_West,0.100164,0.145559,-0.000377,-0.03553,0.019388,-0.009854,-0.000627,0.000538,0.013362,0.022293,0.00341,0.0030 97,-0.00223,0.001881,-0.002262,-0.003182,-0.001869,-4.2e-05,-0.00088,-0.006128,0.000832,0.000824,-0.003204,-0.003494,0.000239

My mistake. Thanks for your correction!

I just fixed my OP with the added Sicilian and Sardinian Coordinates.

In my case my updated results don't change, being Sardinia and Sicily the farthest from me.

[alnortedelsur]

Anyone north of Albania will be North-East and everyone north of Spain and West of Italy will be Aosta valley,

Target: Fellow
Distance: 1.8240% / 0.01823979
100.0 Italian_Northeast

My fit is not even bad, but I already knew I'm a Friulian from the K15 PCA.

Gallop is Andalusian, and he is also closest to Northern Italian regions, including Trentino-Alto-Adige (first) and Aosta Valley (second), followed by other Northern Italian regions.

[Rocinante]

0.02154333 Italian_Veneto
0.02207552 Italian_Umbria
0.02238953 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.02295395 Italian_Northeast
0.02301648 Italian_Tuscany
0.02348671 Italian_Piedmont
0.02380917 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
0.02488208 Italian_Lazio
0.02502289 Italian_Bergamo
0.02632829 Italian_Marche
0.02681047 Italian_Abruzzo
0.02841898 Italian_Basilicata
0.02866025 Italian_Molise
0.02879130 Italian_Campania
0.02917646 Italian_Lombardy
0.02950746 Italian_Liguria
0.02986514 Italian_Apulia
0.03010886 Italian_Calabria
0.03211888 Italian_Jew
0.16639478 Sicilian_West
0.17160805 Sicilian_East
0.22153242 Sardinian

[Luso]

Target: Luso
Distance: 2.0333% / 0.02033321
56.4 Italian_Lombardy
41.6 Italian_Liguria
1.6 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.4 Sardinian


Distances:



Distance to: Luso
0.02081528 Italian_Lombardy
0.02138925 Italian_Liguria
0.02327924 Italian_Bergamo
0.02343748 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
0.02540452 Italian_Piedmont
0.02605569 Italian_Veneto
0.02797226 Italian_Tuscany
0.02825966 Italian_Marche
0.02866273 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.02924127 Italian_Northeast
0.03077419 Italian_Umbria
0.03117600 Italian_Lazio
0.03210885 Italian_Abruzzo
0.03311389 Italian_Molise
0.03343113 Italian_Apulia
0.03473233 Italian_Campania
0.03502368 Italian_Basilicata
0.03611129 Italian_Calabria
0.03687154 Italian_Jew
0.16617453 Sicilian_West
0.17119331 Sicilian_East
0.22019768 Sardinian

[altaic]

Target: Altaic_scaled
Distance: 7.3332% / 0.07333171
77.0 Sicilian_East
13.2 Italian_Basilicata
9.8 Italian_Calabria

Target: Altaic
Distance: 2.8984% / 0.02898401
61.4 Italian_Basilicata
27.0 Italian_Molise
11.6 Italian_Jew

[Vid Flumina]

scaled vs unscaled (you can figure out which one makes more sense) :

https://i.imgur.com/uLJuzXi.png

[alnortedelsur]

scaled vs unscaled (you can figure out which one makes more sense) :

https://i.imgur.com/uLJuzXi.png

Which one do you think it makes more sense?

[Vid Flumina]

Which one do you think it makes more sense?

Scaled, of course. Distances are still inflated (think I never got < 0.025) but it gets the order right

[Gondor]

What am I doing wrong?

Distance to: Gondor
0.05111701 Sicilian_West
0.05573169 Sicilian_East
0.09654784 Sardinian
0.17988607 Italian_Bergamo
0.17993484 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.18012552 Italian_Veneto
0.18013763 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
0.18050276 Italian_Lombardy
0.18083584 Italian_Tuscany
0.18087321 Italian_Northeast
0.18089761 Italian_Piedmont
0.18109944 Italian_Lazio
0.18142928 Italian_Marche
0.18152671 Italian_Liguria
0.18153261 Italian_Umbria
0.18233567 Italian_Abruzzo
0.18261890 Italian_Molise
0.18274203 Italian_Apulia
0.18281433 Italian_Basilicata
0.18300237 Italian_Campania
0.18375875 Italian_Calabria
0.18512026 Italian_Jew

[Gondor]

I got it now :picard2:

[alnortedelsur]

Scaled, of course. Distances are still inflated (think I never got < 0.025) but it gets the order right

I'm confused, according to those results you posted, with unscaled you get shorter distances.

I also ran myself with scaled, and this is what I get:

Distance to: Alnortedelsur_scaled
0.07866759 Sicilian_West
0.08779573 Sicilian_East
0.12626876 Italian_Lombardy
0.12695674 Italian_Bergamo
0.12751961 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
0.12756451 Italian_Liguria
0.12810904 Italian_Veneto
0.12822870 Sardinian
0.12847102 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.12853991 Italian_Piedmont
0.12917512 Italian_Northeast
0.12930797 Italian_Tuscany
0.12974661 Italian_Marche
0.13017875 Italian_Umbria
0.13035691 Italian_Lazio
0.13130310 Italian_Abruzzo
0.13186594 Italian_Apulia
0.13237031 Italian_Molise
0.13251352 Italian_Campania
0.13301551 Italian_Basilicata
0.13359190 Italian_Calabria
0.13395142 Italian_Jew

Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 5.6613% / 0.05661332
44.8 Sicilian_West
21.8 Italian_Liguria
19.4 Sardinian
14.0 Italian_Aosta_Valley

Much bigger distances.

And I also ran the experiment on running my scaled coordinates on my other new thread of closeness to Iberian populations, and I get a distance >12 to Basques (the closest ones to me).

I'm not full European, but I'm not that far from Europeans either. I find more sense in the results with unscaled coordinates.

[firemonkey]

Target: Tim_G
Distance: 3.3451% / 0.03345136 | ADC: 0.25x
100.0 Italian_Aosta_Valley

Target: Tim_G_father
Distance: 3.4522% / 0.03452157 | ADC: 0.25x
94.6 Italian_Aosta_Valley
5.4 Italian_Liguria

Target: Tim_Mother_test
Distance: 3.5415% / 0.03541535 | ADC: 0.25x
100.0 Italian_Aosta_Valley

The Gattys(my surname)were supposedly originally Gatti from Liguria .

[Vid Flumina]

I'm confused, according to those results you posted, with unscaled you get shorter distances.

I also ran myself with scaled, and this is what I get:

Distance to: Alnortedelsur_scaled
0.07866759 Sicilian_West
0.08779573 Sicilian_East
0.12626876 Italian_Lombardy
0.12695674 Italian_Bergamo
0.12751961 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
0.12756451 Italian_Liguria
0.12810904 Italian_Veneto
0.12822870 Sardinian
0.12847102 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.12853991 Italian_Piedmont
0.12917512 Italian_Northeast
0.12930797 Italian_Tuscany
0.12974661 Italian_Marche
0.13017875 Italian_Umbria
0.13035691 Italian_Lazio
0.13130310 Italian_Abruzzo
0.13186594 Italian_Apulia
0.13237031 Italian_Molise
0.13251352 Italian_Campania
0.13301551 Italian_Basilicata
0.13359190 Italian_Calabria
0.13395142 Italian_Jew

Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 5.6613% / 0.05661332
44.8 Sicilian_West
21.8 Italian_Liguria
19.4 Sardinian
14.0 Italian_Aosta_Valley

Much bigger distances.

And I also ran the experiment on running my scaled coordinates on my other new thread of closeness to Iberian population, and I get a distance >12 to Basques (the closest ones to me).

I'm not full European, but I'm not that far from Europeans either. I find more sense in the results with unscaled coordinates.


Scaled coordinates go with scaled sheet :


Italian_Abruzzo,0.112685,0.148801,-0.000675,-0.034765,0.016116,-0.01255,0.000779,-0.002283,0.003789,0.020813,0.000513,0.003668,-0.005633,-0.003904,-0.00615,-0.001466,0.00186,0.000267,0.003361,-0.003693,-0.003809,0.001334,0.000889,0.001706,-0.000964
Italian_Aosta_Valley,0.12697,0.146084,0.039258,0.0 04748,0.036976,-0.001548,0.002409,0.002804,0.010226,0.021959,-0.004766,0.004931,-0.014725,-0.010356,0.007499,0.006258,0.005189,-0.000285,0.003375,-0.000538,0.002926,0.001948,-0.000918,0.00814,-6e-05
Italian_Apulia,0.110712,0.148267,-0.003771,-0.040138,0.015839,-0.015116,-0.000956,-0.001615,0.002795,0.02069,-0.000227,0.003877,-0.006472,0.001193,-0.008107,-0.003898,0.001669,6e-04,0.002749,-0.005152,-0.00381,0.001962,0.001758,0.001438,-0.000567
Italian_Basilicata,0.10927,0.146687,-0.004986,-0.040519,0.013267,-0.015339,0.001044,-0.001667,0.00434,0.019236,0,0.003031,-0.007103,-0.00078,-0.009063,-0.001576,0.005882,-0.000324,0.003366,-0.005127,-0.001886,0.002239,0.002301,0.002691,0.000346
Italian_Bergamo,0.12384,0.150705,0.030698,-0.011757,0.036191,-0.002677,0.001081,0.001708,0.010758,0.027663,-0.001397,0.006804,-0.012844,-0.006276,-0.003474,-0.004163,-0.000365,0.000659,0.005154,-0.005553,-0.001048,-2.5e-05,-0.00419,0.003784,0.000958
Italian_Calabria,0.10282,0.146236,-0.011942,-0.04662,0.012515,-0.011713,-0.002428,-0.003154,0.0045,0.021504,0.000433,0.002798,-0.0055,-0.000963,-0.009636,-0.005259,0.006823,0.000971,0.005154,-0.003043,-0.00262,-0.002391,-0.000164,0.003776,0.00012
Italian_Campania,0.1078,0.148013,-0.008909,-0.043619,0.013746,-0.016153,-0.000451,-0.002269,0.004193,0.022202,0.000785,0.002335,-0.005061,-0.001709,-0.006645,-0.000785,0.002776,-0.000259,0.002587,-0.004028,-0.004087,0.00185,0.001058,0.001968,0.000289
Italian_Jew,0.094928,0.145627,-0.018667,-0.056493,0.011294,-0.024542,-0.003995,-0.002792,0.012885,0.019135,0.004514,0.00021,0.0021 56,-0.002876,-0.00661,-0.001233,-0.0012,-0.001052,-0.001119,-0.003589,-0.003906,-0.001546,-0.000123,0.002362,0.002874
Italian_Lazio,0.114677,0.152583,0.006694,-0.035046,0.021312,-0.011574,0.002468,0.000519,0.006852,0.023463,0.001 299,0.002847,-0.007656,-0.007088,-0.006854,0.004143,-0.000228,-0.000507,0.001823,-0.005065,-0.002745,0.00337,-0.00037,-0.000361,-0.000479
Italian_Liguria,0.113823,0.146236,0.027153,-0.011951,0.029236,-0.002231,0.00235,0.001154,0.009613,0.025331,-0.009743,0.002847,-0.013082,0.001101,-0.001086,-0.012463,-0.00665,-0.00038,0.003771,0.00075,-0.00025,0.000989,0.003944,0.000723,0.000599
Italian_Lombardy,0.124522,0.147861,0.027982,-0.01376,0.032745,-0.007753,0.000658,0,0.01039,0.029923,-0.002501,0.008932,-0.014361,-0.004707,-0.000869,-0.007876,-0.008345,0.001774,0.003444,-0.004102,-0.002246,0.001237,-0.000666,0.003061,0.000838
Italian_Marche,0.117665,0.148204,0.008603,-0.02905,0.02137,-0.010354,0.000646,-0.003115,0.006136,0.02131,-0.000589,0.004384,-0.008548,-0.001694,-0.003283,-0.002329,-0.000383,0.001259,0.002695,-0.003322,-0.000967,0.002458,0.000639,0.003728,-0.001669
Italian_Molise,0.112685,0.146744,0.00132,-0.033431,0.015541,-0.013247,0.004465,-0.003,0.00225,0.019408,0.003735,0.003372,-0.008102,-0.002684,-0.007125,-0.003116,0.005085,0.001837,0.002325,-0.008004,-0.001373,0.004513,-0.000801,0.003555,0.00012
Italian_Northeast,0.125612,0.143552,0.035611,0.001 73,0.035435,0.002032,0.003173,0.002044,0.006881,0. 015946,-0.002366,0.004774,-0.008389,-0.000374,-0.004576,0.00036,0.004023,0.000887,0.003834,-0.002599,-0.00353,0.000433,-0.001796,0.00457,0.000359
Italian_Piedmont,0.121335,0.147353,0.020892,-0.0146,0.029267,-0.005885,0.002844,0.000162,0.007465,0.024128,-0.000227,0.006354,-0.009886,-0.004514,-0.001574,-0.002705,0.001121,0.000899,0.002175,-0.003827,-0.00257,0.001855,-0.002403,0.003832,-0.001497
Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige,0.125043,0.145946,0.034641,-0.003507,0.037238,-0.003387,0.003357,0.003,0.011307,0.023873,-0.003016,0.00501,-0.013443,-0.002831,-0.000523,-0.001875,0.000596,0.001665,0.004274,-0.003019,-0.001426,0.002809,-0.000511,0.000637,-0.003678
Italian_Tuscany,0.118604,0.148742,0.013602,-0.0205,0.026159,-0.009055,-0.00047,-0.001385,0.007499,0.023897,-0.000227,0.005455,-0.011863,-0.004597,-0.00238,-0.000292,0.004033,0.000481,0.003846,-0.002393,-0.001206,0.002465,-0.001044,0.00388,-0.001589
Italian_Umbria,0.117111,0.147477,0.007794,-0.027994,0.020038,-0.009172,-0.000862,-0.00241,0.005227,0.025918,-0.000379,0.005395,-0.010158,-0.005321,-0.002488,0.000575,0.006954,0.000591,0.001061,-0.002334,-0.003411,0.000756,0.000315,0.003039,-0.001091
Italian_Veneto,0.125632,0.148267,0.030311,-0.006157,0.034276,-0.000453,0.002042,0.002005,0.010034,0.023042,-0.002233,0.005489,-0.010536,-0.003819,-0.002697,0.000953,0.00348,0.001956,0.002852,-0.004229,-0.000998,0.002859,-0.000131,0.001318,-0.002148
Sicilian_East,0.1032,0.146574,-0.007291,-0.041129,0.017849,-0.015339,-0.001958,7.7e-05,0.007567,0.021322,0.007307,0.003897,-0.006145,0.003119,-0.005926,-0.006497,-0.002868,-0.00114,0.004483,-0.003877,-4.2e-05,0.002679,-0.00189,0.002289,0.000399
Sicilian_West,0.100164,0.145559,-0.000377,-0.03553,0.019388,-0.009854,-0.000627,0.000538,0.013362,0.022293,0.00341,0.0030 97,-0.00223,0.001881,-0.002262,-0.003182,-0.001869,-4.2e-05,-0.00088,-0.006128,0.000832,0.000824,-0.003204,-0.003494,0.000239
Sardinian,0.121687,0.167285,0.02849,-0.050652,0.060151,-0.022134,-0.003952,0.002496,0.041574,0.077351,-5.9e-05,0.016649,-0.028664,-0.012974,-0.013572,-0.003001,0.011403,-0.001347,0.00168,-0.012995,-0.002121,-0.001102,-0.010084,-0.021383,0.000337

[calxpal]

Distance to: cpal
0.02522862 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.02749809 Italian_Northeast
0.03101814 Italian_Veneto
0.03276404 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
0.03427681 Italian_Piedmont
0.03450997 Italian_Tuscany
0.03593385 Italian_Umbria
0.03620565 Italian_Bergamo
0.03747604 Italian_Marche
0.03918792 Italian_Lazio
0.03953171 Italian_Abruzzo
0.03954251 Italian_Liguria
0.04001662 Italian_Molise
0.04044609 Italian_Lombardy
0.04091687 Italian_Basilicata
0.04233963 Italian_Campania
0.04254771 Italian_Apulia
0.04372563 Italian_Calabria
0.04759166 Italian_Jew
0.17230118 Sicilian_West
0.17727042 Sicilian_East
0.23203422 Sardinian

Target: cpal
Distance: 2.4959% / 0.02495893
75.8 Italian_Aosta_Valley
24.2 Italian_Northeast

[alnortedelsur]

Scaled coordinates go with scaled sheet :


Italian_Abruzzo,0.112685,0.148801,-0.000675,-0.034765,0.016116,-0.01255,0.000779,-0.002283,0.003789,0.020813,0.000513,0.003668,-0.005633,-0.003904,-0.00615,-0.001466,0.00186,0.000267,0.003361,-0.003693,-0.003809,0.001334,0.000889,0.001706,-0.000964
Italian_Aosta_Valley,0.12697,0.146084,0.039258,0.0 04748,0.036976,-0.001548,0.002409,0.002804,0.010226,0.021959,-0.004766,0.004931,-0.014725,-0.010356,0.007499,0.006258,0.005189,-0.000285,0.003375,-0.000538,0.002926,0.001948,-0.000918,0.00814,-6e-05
Italian_Apulia,0.110712,0.148267,-0.003771,-0.040138,0.015839,-0.015116,-0.000956,-0.001615,0.002795,0.02069,-0.000227,0.003877,-0.006472,0.001193,-0.008107,-0.003898,0.001669,6e-04,0.002749,-0.005152,-0.00381,0.001962,0.001758,0.001438,-0.000567
Italian_Basilicata,0.10927,0.146687,-0.004986,-0.040519,0.013267,-0.015339,0.001044,-0.001667,0.00434,0.019236,0,0.003031,-0.007103,-0.00078,-0.009063,-0.001576,0.005882,-0.000324,0.003366,-0.005127,-0.001886,0.002239,0.002301,0.002691,0.000346
Italian_Bergamo,0.12384,0.150705,0.030698,-0.011757,0.036191,-0.002677,0.001081,0.001708,0.010758,0.027663,-0.001397,0.006804,-0.012844,-0.006276,-0.003474,-0.004163,-0.000365,0.000659,0.005154,-0.005553,-0.001048,-2.5e-05,-0.00419,0.003784,0.000958
Italian_Calabria,0.10282,0.146236,-0.011942,-0.04662,0.012515,-0.011713,-0.002428,-0.003154,0.0045,0.021504,0.000433,0.002798,-0.0055,-0.000963,-0.009636,-0.005259,0.006823,0.000971,0.005154,-0.003043,-0.00262,-0.002391,-0.000164,0.003776,0.00012
Italian_Campania,0.1078,0.148013,-0.008909,-0.043619,0.013746,-0.016153,-0.000451,-0.002269,0.004193,0.022202,0.000785,0.002335,-0.005061,-0.001709,-0.006645,-0.000785,0.002776,-0.000259,0.002587,-0.004028,-0.004087,0.00185,0.001058,0.001968,0.000289
Italian_Jew,0.094928,0.145627,-0.018667,-0.056493,0.011294,-0.024542,-0.003995,-0.002792,0.012885,0.019135,0.004514,0.00021,0.0021 56,-0.002876,-0.00661,-0.001233,-0.0012,-0.001052,-0.001119,-0.003589,-0.003906,-0.001546,-0.000123,0.002362,0.002874
Italian_Lazio,0.114677,0.152583,0.006694,-0.035046,0.021312,-0.011574,0.002468,0.000519,0.006852,0.023463,0.001 299,0.002847,-0.007656,-0.007088,-0.006854,0.004143,-0.000228,-0.000507,0.001823,-0.005065,-0.002745,0.00337,-0.00037,-0.000361,-0.000479
Italian_Liguria,0.113823,0.146236,0.027153,-0.011951,0.029236,-0.002231,0.00235,0.001154,0.009613,0.025331,-0.009743,0.002847,-0.013082,0.001101,-0.001086,-0.012463,-0.00665,-0.00038,0.003771,0.00075,-0.00025,0.000989,0.003944,0.000723,0.000599
Italian_Lombardy,0.124522,0.147861,0.027982,-0.01376,0.032745,-0.007753,0.000658,0,0.01039,0.029923,-0.002501,0.008932,-0.014361,-0.004707,-0.000869,-0.007876,-0.008345,0.001774,0.003444,-0.004102,-0.002246,0.001237,-0.000666,0.003061,0.000838
Italian_Marche,0.117665,0.148204,0.008603,-0.02905,0.02137,-0.010354,0.000646,-0.003115,0.006136,0.02131,-0.000589,0.004384,-0.008548,-0.001694,-0.003283,-0.002329,-0.000383,0.001259,0.002695,-0.003322,-0.000967,0.002458,0.000639,0.003728,-0.001669
Italian_Molise,0.112685,0.146744,0.00132,-0.033431,0.015541,-0.013247,0.004465,-0.003,0.00225,0.019408,0.003735,0.003372,-0.008102,-0.002684,-0.007125,-0.003116,0.005085,0.001837,0.002325,-0.008004,-0.001373,0.004513,-0.000801,0.003555,0.00012
Italian_Northeast,0.125612,0.143552,0.035611,0.001 73,0.035435,0.002032,0.003173,0.002044,0.006881,0. 015946,-0.002366,0.004774,-0.008389,-0.000374,-0.004576,0.00036,0.004023,0.000887,0.003834,-0.002599,-0.00353,0.000433,-0.001796,0.00457,0.000359
Italian_Piedmont,0.121335,0.147353,0.020892,-0.0146,0.029267,-0.005885,0.002844,0.000162,0.007465,0.024128,-0.000227,0.006354,-0.009886,-0.004514,-0.001574,-0.002705,0.001121,0.000899,0.002175,-0.003827,-0.00257,0.001855,-0.002403,0.003832,-0.001497
Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige,0.125043,0.145946,0.034641,-0.003507,0.037238,-0.003387,0.003357,0.003,0.011307,0.023873,-0.003016,0.00501,-0.013443,-0.002831,-0.000523,-0.001875,0.000596,0.001665,0.004274,-0.003019,-0.001426,0.002809,-0.000511,0.000637,-0.003678
Italian_Tuscany,0.118604,0.148742,0.013602,-0.0205,0.026159,-0.009055,-0.00047,-0.001385,0.007499,0.023897,-0.000227,0.005455,-0.011863,-0.004597,-0.00238,-0.000292,0.004033,0.000481,0.003846,-0.002393,-0.001206,0.002465,-0.001044,0.00388,-0.001589
Italian_Umbria,0.117111,0.147477,0.007794,-0.027994,0.020038,-0.009172,-0.000862,-0.00241,0.005227,0.025918,-0.000379,0.005395,-0.010158,-0.005321,-0.002488,0.000575,0.006954,0.000591,0.001061,-0.002334,-0.003411,0.000756,0.000315,0.003039,-0.001091
Italian_Veneto,0.125632,0.148267,0.030311,-0.006157,0.034276,-0.000453,0.002042,0.002005,0.010034,0.023042,-0.002233,0.005489,-0.010536,-0.003819,-0.002697,0.000953,0.00348,0.001956,0.002852,-0.004229,-0.000998,0.002859,-0.000131,0.001318,-0.002148
Sicilian_East,0.1032,0.146574,-0.007291,-0.041129,0.017849,-0.015339,-0.001958,7.7e-05,0.007567,0.021322,0.007307,0.003897,-0.006145,0.003119,-0.005926,-0.006497,-0.002868,-0.00114,0.004483,-0.003877,-4.2e-05,0.002679,-0.00189,0.002289,0.000399
Sicilian_West,0.100164,0.145559,-0.000377,-0.03553,0.019388,-0.009854,-0.000627,0.000538,0.013362,0.022293,0.00341,0.0030 97,-0.00223,0.001881,-0.002262,-0.003182,-0.001869,-4.2e-05,-0.00088,-0.006128,0.000832,0.000824,-0.003204,-0.003494,0.000239
Sardinian,0.121687,0.167285,0.02849,-0.050652,0.060151,-0.022134,-0.003952,0.002496,0.041574,0.077351,-5.9e-05,0.016649,-0.028664,-0.012974,-0.013572,-0.003001,0.011403,-0.001347,0.00168,-0.012995,-0.002121,-0.001102,-0.010084,-0.021383,0.000337

But I got the data from the global average sheet that doesn't say scaled

With those scaled coordinates that you provide, these would be my scaled coordinates:

Distance to: Alnortedelsur_scaled
0.07094152 Italian_Liguria
0.07824806 Italian_Lombardy
0.07866759 Sicilian_West
0.07908530 Italian_Piedmont
0.08045215 Italian_Tuscany
0.08047276 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
0.08118580 Italian_Bergamo
0.08203352 Italian_Northeast
0.08208287 Italian_Veneto
0.08247814 Italian_Marche
0.08278668 Italian_Umbria
0.08469629 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.08703743 Italian_Abruzzo
0.08773847 Italian_Lazio
0.08773972 Italian_Molise
0.08779573 Sicilian_East
0.08975878 Italian_Apulia
0.09105304 Italian_Basilicata
0.09247493 Italian_Campania
0.09307054 Italian_Calabria
0.09910260 Italian_Jew
0.12822870 Sardinian

Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 7.0025% / 0.07002454
76.0 Italian_Liguria
24.0 Sicilian_West

[lacreme]

The scaled results of my Greek friend.
More realistic results than with the unscaled coordinates which produced even closer distances.
I've also added the Swiss Italian,Corsican and Maltese averages

Distance to: Chris_scaled
0.02131055 Italian_Abruzzo
0.02305004 Italian_Apulia
0.02339711 Italian_Basilicata
0.02354497 Italian_Molise
0.02545668 Italian_Campania
0.02830190 Italian_Calabria
0.02899220 Italian_Umbria
0.02958207 Italian_Lazio
0.03008131 Italian_Marche
0.03185087 Sicilian_East
0.03412210 Sicilian_West
0.03720514 Italian_Tuscany
0.03786003 Maltese
0.04447015 Italian_Piedmont
0.04617931 Italian_Jew
0.04670878 Swiss_Italian
0.04996529 French_Corsica
0.05617406 Italian_Liguria
0.05684450 Italian_Lombardy
0.05767649 Italian_Veneto
0.05787124 Italian_Bergamo
0.06355246 Italian_Northeast
0.06381000 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
0.07440579 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.11057048 Sardinian

Target: Chris_scaled
Distance: 2.0838% / 0.02083830
60.6 Italian_Abruzzo
31.2 Italian_Calabria
8.2 Italian_Northeast

I suppose Calabria (and Abruzzo to an extent) works as a substitute for his islander/islander-like part of his ancestry and Abruzzo+Northeast work as a proxy for his mainlander part

[Damião de Góis]

I think that's the scaled versions of Sicilian_West, Sicilian_East and Sardinian judging by the difference of distances.

Distance to: Gil_Vicente
0.01720581 Italian_Lombardy
0.01900661 Italian_Bergamo
0.01983794 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
0.02095790 Italian_Piedmont
0.02145697 Italian_Veneto
0.02150721 Italian_Liguria
0.02231274 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.02425836 Italian_Tuscany
0.02428827 Italian_Northeast
0.02546285 Italian_Marche
0.02689141 Italian_Umbria
0.02703134 Italian_Lazio
0.02892613 Italian_Abruzzo
0.02998366 Italian_Molise
0.03117384 Italian_Apulia
0.03187141 Italian_Campania
0.03286871 Italian_Basilicata
0.03482746 Italian_Calabria
0.03527119 Italian_Jew
0.16611465 Sicilian_West
0.17127753 Sicilian_East
0.22121799 Sardinian


Target: Gil_Vicente
Distance: 1.6467% / 0.01646657
75.2 Italian_Lombardy
24.8 Italian_Aosta_Valley

[Gallop]

Gallop is Andalusian, and he is also closest to Northern Italian regions, including Trentino-Alto-Adige (first) and Aosta Valley (second), followed by other Northern Italian regions.

Also Andalusian of parents, grandparents, great-grandparents and great-great-grandparents paternally and maternally.

I don't know why some foreigners continue to insist on claiming big differences between the north and the south of Spain.

Meanwhile you can visit my wonderful thread: Andalusians

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...72-Andalusians

[Ritz06]

Target:
Distance: 2.5498% / 0.02549820
50.2 Italian_Aosta_Valley
26.8 Italian_Abruzzo
23.0 Italian_Northeast

Distance to:
0.02693835 Italian_Northeast
0.02717992 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.02819797 Italian_Piedmont
0.02846895 Italian_Veneto
0.02872979 Italian_Marche
0.02898640 Italian_Tuscany
0.02938087 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
0.02988933 Italian_Umbria
0.03012668 Italian_Abruzzo
0.03098951 Italian_Molise
0.03103497 Italian_Bergamo
0.03110772 Italian_Liguria
0.03120382 Italian_Lazio
0.03197283 Italian_Lombardy
0.03262381 Italian_Apulia
0.03274964 Italian_Basilicata
0.03291460 Italian_Campania
0.03471805 Italian_Calabria
0.03817007 Italian_Jew
0.17275361 Sicilian_West
0.17694422 Sicilian_East
0.23644956 Sardinian

[JerryS.]

you cannot mix scaled and unscaled sources. see here how inaccurate it is.

scaled:

Target: JerryS,_scaled
Distance: 10.9783% / 0.10978282
80.8 Sicilian_West
12.2 Italian_Aosta_Valley
7.0 Sardinian

Target: JerryS._scaled
Distance: 11.4189% / 0.11418894
81.8 Sicilian_West
9.6 Sardinian
8.6 Italian_Aosta_Valley


unscaled:

Target: JerryS.
Distance: 2.2041% / 0.02204067
100.0 Italian_Aosta_Valley

Target: JerryS.
Distance: 2.5517% / 0.02551737
100.0 Italian_Aosta_Valley

[Ritz06]

Target:
Distance: 2.5498% / 0.02549820
50.2 Italian_Aosta_Valley
26.8 Italian_Abruzzo
23.0 Italian_Northeast

Distance to:
0.02693835 Italian_Northeast
0.02717992 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.02819797 Italian_Piedmont
0.02846895 Italian_Veneto
0.02872979 Italian_Marche
0.02898640 Italian_Tuscany
0.02938087 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
0.02988933 Italian_Umbria
0.03012668 Italian_Abruzzo
0.03098951 Italian_Molise
0.03103497 Italian_Bergamo
0.03110772 Italian_Liguria
0.03120382 Italian_Lazio
0.03197283 Italian_Lombardy
0.03262381 Italian_Apulia
0.03274964 Italian_Basilicata
0.03291460 Italian_Campania
0.03471805 Italian_Calabria
0.03817007 Italian_Jew
0.17275361 Sicilian_West
0.17694422 Sicilian_East
0.23644956 Sardinian

[Gallop]

Unescaled

Target: Gallop
Distance: 2.4137% / 0.02413680
50.0 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
35.0 Italian_Aosta_Valley
13.6 Italian_Liguria
1.4 Sardinian

Distance to: Gallop
0.02466502 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
0.02633840 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.02685956 Italian_Veneto
0.02749698 Italian_Lombardy
0.02824075 Italian_Liguria
0.02825752 Italian_Bergamo
0.02861831 Italian_Piedmont
0.02997215 Italian_Tuscany
0.03181154 Italian_Northeast
0.03182795 Italian_Umbria
0.03235759 Italian_Marche
0.03295805 Italian_Lazio
0.03550117 Italian_Abruzzo
0.03728163 Italian_Molise
0.03803645 Italian_Apulia
0.03839950 Italian_Campania
0.03880192 Italian_Basilicata
0.04113212 Italian_Calabria
0.04254104 Italian_Jew
0.16667170 Sicilian_West
0.17238114 Sicilian_East
0.21894918 Sardinian


_Scaled


Target: Gallop_scaled
Distance: 3.6462% / 0.03646156
60.8 Italian_Aosta_Valley
25.2 Italian_Liguria
14.0 Sardinian

Distance to: Gallop_scaled
0.04011352 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
0.04171423 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.04475967 Italian_Veneto
0.04545366 Italian_Liguria
0.04552153 Italian_Bergamo
0.04680093 Italian_Lombardy
0.04991609 Italian_Northeast
0.05092975 Italian_Piedmont
0.05726819 Italian_Tuscany
0.06567422 Italian_Umbria
0.06608242 Italian_Marche
0.06958888 Italian_Lazio
0.07285840 Sicilian_West
0.07688623 Italian_Abruzzo
0.07736923 Italian_Molise
0.08295798 Italian_Apulia
0.08438387 Sicilian_East
0.08461462 Italian_Basilicata
0.08761843 Italian_Campania
0.09248001 Italian_Calabria
0.09360606 Sardinian
0.10352605 Italian_Jew

In scaled Trentino de Single disappears but appears first in Distance.

I do remember that I have a match at My Heritage with someone modern from Trentino.

I don't know which of the two is more reliable if unescaled or scaled

I don't know what to think of the scaled. Here almost everything that is being done is scaled but I see that it makes samples of the single disappear

And almost unescaled distances seem more credible if it is as they say that there is a great difference between Sicilians and the rest of Italians.

while in scaled they are very even with Sardinia

I'm almost going to trust Unescaled more

[Deusex99]

The study that published those results didn't check the ancestry and the birthplaces of the samples. Very bad and un representative averages.

[Gallop]

Repetido----

[PT Tagus]

Distance to: Endovelicus
0.01862745 Italian_Lombardy
0.01915228 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
0.02012306 Italian_Piedmont
0.02040101 Italian_Bergamo
0.02060719 Italian_Veneto
0.02087463 Italian_Liguria
0.02203273 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.02252125 Italian_Tuscany
0.02297920 Italian_Marche
0.02463182 Italian_Northeast
0.02528013 Italian_Umbria
0.02531616 Italian_Lazio
0.02726138 Italian_Abruzzo
0.02921301 Italian_Molise
0.02953035 Italian_Apulia
0.02996391 Italian_Campania
0.03114173 Italian_Basilicata
0.03286610 Italian_Jew
0.03300447 Italian_Calabria
0.16549437 Sicilian_West
0.17061836 Sicilian_East
0.22126523 Sardinian

Target: Endovelicus
Distance: 1.7374% / 0.01737353
53.8 Italian_Lombardy
32.8 Italian_Aosta_Valley
11.8 Italian_Liguria
1.6 Italian_Jew

[celticdragongod]

Distance to: CDG
0.03044047 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.03492671 Italian_Northeast
0.03539125 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
0.03714324 Italian_Liguria
0.03717275 Italian_Veneto
0.03772045 Italian_Lombardy
0.03849040 Italian_Bergamo
0.03865514 Italian_Piedmont
0.04087301 Italian_Tuscany
0.04242818 Italian_Marche
0.04436321 Italian_Umbria
0.04642400 Italian_Lazio
0.04652774 Italian_Abruzzo
0.04786711 Italian_Molise
0.04923927 Italian_Apulia
0.04988535 Italian_Basilicata
0.05017287 Italian_Campania
0.05218676 Italian_Calabria
0.05503505 Italian_Jew
0.17381679 Sicilian_West
0.17862989 Sicilian_East
0.23352833 Sardinian

Target: CDG
Distance: 3.0440% / 0.03044047 | ADC: 2x
100.0 Italian_Aosta_Valley

Target: CDG
Distance: 3.0440% / 0.03044047 | ADC: 1x
100.0 Italian_Aosta_Valley

Target: CDG
Distance: 3.0440% / 0.03044047 | ADC: 0.5x
100.0 Italian_Aosta_Valley

Target: CDG
Distance: 3.0416% / 0.03041591 | ADC: 0.25x
96.6 Italian_Aosta_Valley
3.4 Italian_Liguria

Target: CDG
Distance: 3.0410% / 0.03041031
94.0 Italian_Aosta_Valley
6.0 Italian_Liguria

[Gaditanian]

0.02678935 Italian_Bergamo
0.02758737 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
0.02765122 Italian_Lombardy
0.02769717 Italian_Veneto
0.02827121 Italian_Piedmont
0.02983200 Italian_Lazio
0.02983624 Italian_Tuscany
0.03053538 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.03089719 Italian_Marche
0.03111637 Italian_Umbria
0.03117026 Italian_Northeast
0.03123219 Italian_Liguria
0.03251951 Italian_Abruzzo
0.03461524 Italian_Campania
0.03485255 Italian_Molise
0.03485957 Italian_Apulia
0.03544997 Italian_Jew
0.03590463 Italian_Basilicata
0.03693159 Italian_Calabria
0.16635350 Sicilian_West
0.17213069 Sicilian_East
0.21978609 Sardinian

[alnortedelsur]

0.02678935 Italian_Bergamo
0.02758737 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
0.02765122 Italian_Lombardy
0.02769717 Italian_Veneto
0.02827121 Italian_Piedmont
0.02983200 Italian_Lazio
0.02983624 Italian_Tuscany
0.03053538 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.03089719 Italian_Marche
0.03111637 Italian_Umbria
0.03117026 Italian_Northeast
0.03123219 Italian_Liguria
0.03251951 Italian_Abruzzo
0.03461524 Italian_Campania
0.03485255 Italian_Molise
0.03485957 Italian_Apulia
0.03544997 Italian_Jew
0.03590463 Italian_Basilicata
0.03693159 Italian_Calabria
0.16635350 Sicilian_West
0.17213069 Sicilian_East
0.21978609 Sardinian

You're another example of an Andalusian who is genetically closer to Northern Italy than to the rest of Italy. And then some people come and say that only Northern Spaniards, lol

[mitalit]

Distance to: Xabier
0.01683803 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.02359799 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
0.02414872 Italian_Veneto
0.02428109 Italian_Bergamo
0.02488324 Italian_Piedmont
0.02537485 Italian_Tuscany
0.02545411 Italian_Northeast
0.02602991 Italian_Lombardy
0.02669344 Italian_Liguria
0.02677494 Italian_Umbria
0.02944470 Italian_Marche
0.03074139 Italian_Lazio
0.03210372 Italian_Abruzzo
0.03375500 Italian_Molise
0.03448159 Italian_Basilicata
0.03467233 Italian_Campania
0.03515579 Italian_Apulia
0.03674552 Italian_Calabria
0.03978664 Italian_Jew
0.16775739 Sicilian_West
0.17256740 Sicilian_East
0.22159899 Sardinian

Target: Xabier
Distance: 1.6721% / 0.01672062
91.6 Italian_Aosta_Valley
8.0 Italian_Liguria
0.4 Sardinian


https://i.gyazo.com/2d7ccb33be6bf64f92fe9758e221e81d.png

[Gaditanian]

You're another example of an Andalusian who is genetically closer to Northern Italy than to the rest of Italy. And then some people come and say that only Northern Spaniards, lol

Due The Reconquista maybe Spain is the only one in Europe that can not make differences between north & south.

Andalusians are just Northern Spaniards settlers.

[Hulu]

Distance to: Hulu
0.02215158 Italian_Basilicata
0.02326027 Italian_Molise
0.02337726 Italian_Calabria
0.02356262 Italian_Apulia
0.02393972 Italian_Campania
0.02395221 Italian_Abruzzo
0.02435529 Italian_Umbria
0.02549820 Italian_Lazio
0.02615165 Italian_Tuscany
0.02707224 Italian_Marche
0.02792954 Italian_Veneto
0.02815556 Italian_Piedmont
0.02816942 Italian_Northeast
0.02953866 Italian_Jew
0.03031065 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
0.03069764 Italian_Bergamo
0.03468426 Italian_Lombardy
0.03530991 Italian_Liguria
0.03730825 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.16514470 Sicilian_West
0.16858965 Sicilian_East
0.22129848 Sardinian

Target: Hulu
Distance: 2.1821% / 0.02182097
82.4 Italian_Basilicata
14.6 Italian_Northeast
2.0 Italian_Calabria
1.0 Sardinian

[someonenotyou]

Target:
Distance: 9.3725% / 0.09372508
89.8 Sicilian_West
10.2 Italian_Aosta_Valley

Distance to:
0.09522117 Sicilian_West
0.10310601 Sicilian_East
0.14490789 Sardinian
0.17558153 Italian_Northeast
0.17588258 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.17651272 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
0.17663551 Italian_Veneto
0.17715426 Italian_Bergamo
0.17810391 Italian_Lombardy
0.17829627 Italian_Piedmont
0.17837637 Italian_Liguria
0.17951428 Italian_Tuscany
0.18038062 Italian_Marche
0.18087166 Italian_Umbria
0.18116511 Italian_Lazio
0.18193709 Italian_Abruzzo
0.18209253 Italian_Molise
0.18279562 Italian_Apulia
0.18317480 Italian_Basilicata
0.18369757 Italian_Campania
0.18447891 Italian_Calabria
0.18668378 Italian_Jew

[Dunai]

It's pretty astonishing to me how distant Sicilians and Sardinians seem to be from regular Italians

Distance to: Dunai
0.02398636 Italian_Northeast
0.02855375 Italian_Veneto
0.02900316 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
0.02969563 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.03153131 Italian_Piedmont
0.03309532 Italian_Liguria
0.03311713 Italian_Tuscany
0.03414515 Italian_Bergamo
0.03420798 Italian_Marche
0.03489451 Italian_Umbria
0.03625741 Italian_Abruzzo
0.03679076 Italian_Lombardy
0.03720699 Italian_Molise
0.03730922 Italian_Lazio
0.03802383 Italian_Apulia
0.03807636 Italian_Basilicata
0.03933167 Italian_Campania
0.04057017 Italian_Calabria
0.04445549 Italian_Jew
0.17243768 Sicilian_West
0.17754343 Sicilian_East
0.23360689 Sardinian

Target: Dunai
Distance: 2.3986% / 0.02398636
100.0 Italian_Northeast

[alnortedelsur]

I still don't get why several users keep saying that scaled coordinates are more accurate with this coordinates. I got them from this data sheet:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1y49hyvviJpHj9esVqyeiFm32DhnPlfRQ/view

These are my scaled[B] results with those references:

Distance to: Alnortedelsur_scaled
0.07866759 Sicilian_West
0.08779573 Sicilian_East
0.12626876 Italian_Lombardy
0.12695674 Italian_Bergamo
0.12751961 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
0.12756451 Italian_Liguria
0.12810904 Italian_Veneto
0.12822870 Sardinian
0.12847102 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.12853991 Italian_Piedmont
0.12917512 Italian_Northeast
0.12930797 Italian_Tuscany
0.12974661 Italian_Marche
0.13017875 Italian_Umbria
0.13035691 Italian_Lazio
0.13130310 Italian_Abruzzo
0.13186594 Italian_Apulia
0.13237031 Italian_Molise
0.13251352 Italian_Campania
0.13301551 Italian_Basilicata
0.13359190 Italian_Calabria
0.13395142 Italian_Jew


Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
[B]Distance: 5.6613% / 0.05661332
44.8 Sicilian_West
21.8 Italian_Liguria
19.4 Sardinian
14.0 Italian_Aosta_Valley

And these are my unscaled results with those references:

Distance to: Alnortedelsur
0.02389531 Italian_Lombardy
0.02430823 Italian_Liguria
0.02707584 Italian_Bergamo
0.02731684 Italian_Piedmont
0.02743038 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
0.02854474 Italian_Marche
0.02876385 Italian_Veneto
0.02915663 Italian_Tuscany
0.03027126 Italian_Umbria
0.03047540 Italian_Northeast
0.03082019 Italian_Abruzzo
0.03101851 Italian_Lazio
0.03214531 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.03215498 Italian_Apulia
0.03308059 Italian_Campania
0.03360506 Italian_Molise
0.03450013 Italian_Basilicata
0.03496711 Italian_Jew
0.03521518 Italian_Calabria
0.17064594 Sicilian_West
0.17549981 Sicilian_East
0.22662567 Sardinian

Target: Alnortedelsur
Distance: 2.3414% / 0.02341369
54.2 Italian_Lombardy
41.0 Italian_Liguria
4.8 Italian_Jew


As you all can see, much shorter distances when I run it with my unscaled coordinates.

I didn't get this data from the scaled coordinates, but from the spreadsheet shown in the link above.

I thought that the shorter the distances the better/more accurate the results are. So, I don't get why some people keep saying that the scaled coordinates work better in this case.

I'm about to open a similar thread, but with the scaled coordinates to be run with the scaled coordinates.

[Hulu]

Target:
Distance: 9.3725% / 0.09372508
89.8 Sicilian_West
10.2 Italian_Aosta_Valley

Distance to:
0.09522117 Sicilian_West
0.10310601 Sicilian_East
0.14490789 Sardinian
0.17558153 Italian_Northeast
0.17588258 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.17651272 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
0.17663551 Italian_Veneto
0.17715426 Italian_Bergamo
0.17810391 Italian_Lombardy
0.17829627 Italian_Piedmont
0.17837637 Italian_Liguria
0.17951428 Italian_Tuscany
0.18038062 Italian_Marche
0.18087166 Italian_Umbria
0.18116511 Italian_Lazio
0.18193709 Italian_Abruzzo
0.18209253 Italian_Molise
0.18279562 Italian_Apulia
0.18317480 Italian_Basilicata
0.18369757 Italian_Campania
0.18447891 Italian_Calabria
0.18668378 Italian_Jew


It's pretty astonishing to me how distant Sicilians and Sardinians seem to be from regular Italians

Distance to: Dunai
0.02398636 Italian_Northeast
0.02855375 Italian_Veneto
0.02900316 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
0.02969563 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.03153131 Italian_Piedmont
0.03309532 Italian_Liguria
0.03311713 Italian_Tuscany
0.03414515 Italian_Bergamo
0.03420798 Italian_Marche
0.03489451 Italian_Umbria
0.03625741 Italian_Abruzzo
0.03679076 Italian_Lombardy
0.03720699 Italian_Molise
0.03730922 Italian_Lazio
0.03802383 Italian_Apulia
0.03807636 Italian_Basilicata
0.03933167 Italian_Campania
0.04057017 Italian_Calabria
0.04445549 Italian_Jew
0.17243768 Sicilian_West
0.17754343 Sicilian_East
0.23360689 Sardinian

Target: Dunai
Distance: 2.3986% / 0.02398636
100.0 Italian_Northeast

Both Hungarians yet someonenotyou has Sicilians first while Dunai has them last. At first I thought it must be the north component on sicilians when I saw somenotyou, but then Dunai proves it wrong. There must be something else to it.

[Dunai]

Both Hungarians yet someonenotyou has Sicilians first while Dunai has them last. At first I thought it must be the north component on sicilians when I saw somenotyou, but then Dunai proves it wrong. There must be something else to it.

From what I know he is the most Western, Germanic influenced Hungarian here, and he used the scaled version, so obviously he got very unrealistic results. I mean look at the 9+ distance, very unreal. He should remake it with unscaled coordinates and shouldn't be too different from mine.

[Hulu]

From what I know he is the most Western, Germanic influenced Hungarian here, and he used the scaled version, so obviously he got very unrealistic results. I mean look at the 9+ distance, very unreal. He should remake it with unscaled coordinates and shouldn't be too different from mine.

The distances will be closer, I don't think the order will be affected.

[RyoHazuki]

Distance to: Ryo
0.03818216 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.03861673 Italian_Lombardy
0.03914346 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
0.03950038 Italian_Liguria
0.04054271 Italian_Northeast
0.04088710 Italian_Bergamo
0.04175148 Italian_Veneto
0.04179236 Italian_Piedmont
0.04491142 Italian_Tuscany
0.04500485 Italian_Marche
0.04907171 Italian_Umbria
0.04959917 Italian_Lazio
0.04975321 Italian_Abruzzo
0.05055729 Italian_Molise
0.05181604 Italian_Apulia
0.05325919 Italian_Campania
0.05356587 Italian_Basilicata
0.05496348 Italian_Calabria
0.05662030 Italian_Jew
0.17350686 Sicilian_West
0.17837301 Sicilian_East
0.23328782 Sardinian

Target: Ryo
Distance: 3.6997% / 0.03699694
54.0 Italian_Aosta_Valley
26.4 Italian_Lombardy
19.6 Italian_Liguria

[lacreme]

The scaled results of my Greek friend.
More realistic results than with the unscaled coordinates which produced even closer distances.
I've also added the Swiss Italian,Corsican and Maltese averages

Distance to: Chris_scaled
0.02131055 Italian_Abruzzo
0.02305004 Italian_Apulia
0.02339711 Italian_Basilicata
0.02354497 Italian_Molise
0.02545668 Italian_Campania
0.02830190 Italian_Calabria
0.02899220 Italian_Umbria
0.02958207 Italian_Lazio
0.03008131 Italian_Marche
0.03185087 Sicilian_East
0.03412210 Sicilian_West
0.03720514 Italian_Tuscany
0.03786003 Maltese
0.04447015 Italian_Piedmont
0.04617931 Italian_Jew
0.04670878 Swiss_Italian
0.04996529 French_Corsica
0.05617406 Italian_Liguria
0.05684450 Italian_Lombardy
0.05767649 Italian_Veneto
0.05787124 Italian_Bergamo
0.06355246 Italian_Northeast
0.06381000 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
0.07440579 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.11057048 Sardinian

Target: Chris_scaled
Distance: 2.0838% / 0.02083830
60.6 Italian_Abruzzo
31.2 Italian_Calabria
8.2 Italian_Northeast

I suppose Calabria (and Abruzzo to an extent) works as a substitute for his islander/islander-like part of his ancestry and Abruzzo+Northeast work as a proxy for his mainlander part

...And his unscaled results

Distance to: Chris
0.01385718 Italian_Abruzzo
0.01427855 Italian_Calabria
0.01430399 Italian_Apulia
0.01442654 Italian_Campania
0.01471206 Italian_Basilicata
0.01594616 Italian_Molise
0.01658990 Italian_Umbria
0.01709410 Italian_Lazio
0.01762273 Italian_Marche
0.01910406 Italian_Tuscany
0.01921438 Sicilian_East
0.01972619 Italian_Jew
0.01986833 Sicilian_West
0.01990501 Italian_Piedmont
0.02112936 Swiss_Italian
0.02210022 Italian_Northeast
0.02278356 Italian_Veneto
0.02347243 French_Corsica
0.02411890 Italian_Bergamo
0.02538369 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
0.02685677 Italian_Lombardy
0.02833425 Italian_Liguria
0.03183352 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.05505244 Sardinian

Target: Chris
Distance: 1.3044% / 0.01304380
55.6 Italian_Calabria
23.6 Italian_Abruzzo
17.2 Italian_Northeast
3.6 Italian_Campania

[Ion Basescul]

<tbody>
Distance to:
Ion_Basescul_23andme+LivingDNA_unscaled


0.02622083
Italian_Northeast


0.03092159
Italian_Veneto


0.03334776
Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige


0.03393580
Italian_Aosta_Valley


0.03420401
Italian_Tuscany


0.03452230
Italian_Piedmont


0.03478208
Italian_Umbria


0.03525881
Italian_Basilicata


0.03556808
Italian_Abruzzo


0.03566941
Italian_Marche


0.03571498
Italian_Molise


0.03648949
Italian_Bergamo


0.03651928
Italian_Lazio


0.03697690
Italian_Apulia


0.03768519
Italian_Calabria


0.03771286
Italian_Campania


0.03837082
Italian_Liguria


0.04141647
Italian_Lombardy


0.04363261
Italian_Jew


0.17297348
Sicilian_West


0.17747710
Sicilian_East


0.23309957
Sardinian

</tbody>

:rolleyes:
Target: Ion_Basescul_23andme+LivingDNA_unscaled
Distance: 2.6221% / 0.02622083
100.0 Italian_Northeast
0.0 Italian_Abruzzo
0.0 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.0 Italian_Apulia
0.0 Italian_Basilicata
0.0 Italian_Bergamo
0.0 Italian_Calabria
0.0 Italian_Campania
0.0 Italian_Jew
0.0 Italian_Lazio
0.0 Italian_Liguria
0.0 Italian_Lombardy
0.0 Italian_Marche
0.0 Italian_Molise
0.0 Italian_Piedmont
0.0 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
0.0 Italian_Tuscany
0.0 Italian_Umbria
0.0 Italian_Veneto
0.0 Sardinian
0.0 Sicilian_East
0.0 Sicilian_West


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpWJ5x8T9R4

[paradox]

Distanceto:unscaled
0.01964417 Italian_Apulia
0.01976092 Italian_Basilicata
0.02052580 Italian_Abruzzo
0.02060438 Italian_Northeast
0.02077667 Italian_Molise
0.02106517 Italian_Campania
0.02161686 Italian_Marche
0.02239259 Italian_Lazio
0.02253472 Italian_Calabria
0.02349256 Italian_Umbria
0.02353857 Italian_Veneto
0.02377534 Italian_Tuscany
0.02391467 Italian_Piedmont
0.02556518 Italian_Jew
0.02628568 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
0.02729160 Italian_Bergamo
0.02797570 Italian_Liguria
0.02992437 Italian_Lombardy
0.03264695 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.16608748 Sicilian_West
0.17008168 Sicilian_East
0.22787666 Sardinian

Target: unscaled
Distance: 1.7221% / 0.01722135
47.2 Italian_Northeast
23.2 Italian_Basilicata
22.2 Italian_Apulia
7.4 Italian_Jew
------------------------------------------------
My father

Distanceto:Father_unscaled
0.02356111 Italian_Northeast
0.02736271 Italian_Marche
0.02745323 Italian_Liguria
0.02745945 Italian_Apulia
0.02777476 Italian_Piedmont
0.02777661 Italian_Veneto
0.02812259 Italian_Abruzzo
0.02842728 Italian_Molise
0.02859172 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
0.02892223 Italian_Bergamo
0.02916251 Italian_Lombardy
0.02927392 Italian_Basilicata
0.02957242 Italian_Lazio
0.02993625 Italian_Campania
0.03007760 Italian_Tuscany
0.03155946 Italian_Calabria
0.03165303 Italian_Umbria
0.03302899 Italian_Jew
0.03600409 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.16740005 Sicilian_West
0.17156343 Sicilian_East
0.22925761 Sardinian

Target: Father_unscaled
Distance: 2.2884% / 0.02288407
72.6 Italian_Northeast
10.6 Italian_Apulia
10.4 Italian_Jew
6.4 Italian_Liguria