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princeton90
09-01-2020, 01:38 PM
Do you also think West Asia and Caucasus components on gedmatch calculators are more European than they are MENA?

Frowning Man
09-01-2020, 01:45 PM
We are not Europeans and we are not MENA. We are Caucasians, sons of the Caucasian mountains.

Kyp
09-01-2020, 01:55 PM
Definetly not. Why would it?

Chris596
09-01-2020, 02:21 PM
No, they are their own thing. Anyway, components need to be ,,clean'', otherwise it doesn't make too much sense. For example if I want to measure how much East-Asian ancestry I have, a sample from a half East Asian half European person is not good.

Dr_Maul
09-01-2020, 02:35 PM
Pure Caucasus can be considered European I think, but West Asian has Gedrosia which is not European.

Chris596
09-01-2020, 02:47 PM
Pure Caucasus can be considered European I think, but West Asian has Gedrosia which is not European.

In Dodecad K12b I get 4.65 pct Gedrosia. Is that real or has something to do directly with my Hungarian side or something else?

Kyp
09-01-2020, 02:49 PM
Pure Caucasus can be considered European I think

no

Inquizzitor2
09-01-2020, 02:51 PM
Politically and culturally Armenia, Georgia and Azerbaijan are typically considered European. Genetically, as other posted have noted they are their own thing but it is still true they plot pretty much midway between the European average and Middle Eastern average.

Hamilcar
09-01-2020, 03:11 PM
there is nothing european about it

RatCat
09-01-2020, 03:15 PM
In Dodecad K12b I get 4.65 pct Gedrosia. Is that real or has something to do directly with my Hungarian side or something else?

Europeans can score gedrosia because of indo-european admixture. Yamnaya had a lot of gedrosia. For example

Population
Gedrosia 32.25 Pct
Siberian 1.39 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 1.46 Pct
North_European 60.13 Pct
South_Asian 0.28 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian -
East_Asian -
Caucasus 3.69 Pct
Sub_Saharan 0.80 Pct

Or maybe you score some gedrosia because of your armenian ancestry.

Dr_Maul
09-01-2020, 03:31 PM
In Dodecad K12b I get 4.65 pct Gedrosia. Is that real or has something to do directly with my Hungarian side or something else?

4 seems to be within the normal range for Magyars

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