View Full Version : NEW - G25 Studio
Lucas
09-10-2020, 05:02 PM
https://dnagenics.com/g25-studio/
Someone tried?
Eurogenes Global 25 (G25) ancestry test has become the most accurate test that anyone can found out in the non-commercial market. With a set of 25 coordinates values and a list of populations, one can get the most detailed ancestry breakdown.
To help everyone out, G25 Studio provides a library of calculators created by the homebrew ancestry community and a set of tools to ease the analysis of your ancestry by using the G25 coordinates.
The tools featured in G25 Studio are:
All-in-one interface:
Updated library of G25 calculators
Import of custom calculators from CSV and text files
Copy and paste of coordinates easily
Population selection for each run
Oracle:
Mixed Mode (*PRO)
1 Population
2 Populations (*PRO)
3 Populations (*PRO)
4 Populations (*PRO)
Distance method selection (Euclidean, Manhattan, Chebyshev) (*PRO)
nMonte:
Standard nMonte
Distance
Aggregates calculation
Multiethnic algorithm to improve the breakdown and avoid overfits (*PRO)
Population Analysis
PCA:
Principal Components selection to compare PCs
Zooming and selection
Luke35
09-10-2020, 05:10 PM
I did not know it existed, but I'll download and give the free version a spin.
Chris596
09-10-2020, 05:12 PM
I did not know it existed, but I'll download and give the free version a spin.
You know what this means? Even more ways for us to model ourselves :D I see that it's quite new, I expected something big to come this September, great stuff. I'll also give it a try, if it looks good, I might buy the PRO version like I did with Admix Studio.
Luke35
09-10-2020, 05:28 PM
You know what this means? Even more ways for us to model ourselves :D I see that it's quite new, I expected something big to come this September, great stuff. I'll also give it a try, if it looks good, I might buy the PRO version like I did with Admix Studio.
I'm using it now, took me a minute to figure out how to copy n paste coordinates and also run them at various distances, but it's working. I think I'll probably get the pro version for the PCA, but I'll mess around with the regular version for now.
Kaspias
09-10-2020, 05:53 PM
@Lucas
What is the method used in Population Analysis -> User vs Population? I see that it is different than regular scaled single pop sharing.
Lucas
09-10-2020, 06:18 PM
@Lucas
What is the method used in Population Analysis -> User vs Population? I see that it is different than regular scaled single pop sharing.
I don't know. Ask author. He is currently on-line because I have problem in Win7 with custom calcs list and mailed him.
JQP4545
09-10-2020, 07:00 PM
https://dnagenics.com/g25-studio/
Someone tried?
Can it be accessed on GedMatch? I don't have Windows.
Chris596
09-10-2020, 10:43 PM
https://dnagenics.com/g25-studio/
Someone tried?
I'm using it now, took me a minute to figure out how to copy n paste coordinates and also run them at various distances, but it's working. I think I'll probably get the pro version for the PCA, but I'll mess around with the regular version for now.
Alright, so I've tried a couple models. Pretty nice, finally I can model my father's ancestry too in a more sophisticated way. Here's some of his nMonte results:
G25 Modern Averages (Scaled)
Distance: 0.03414
28.40% Sardinian
26.20% Georgian_Laz
22.60% Lithuanian_VA
16.20% Lithuanian_RA
02.80% Li
01.00% Abkhasian
00.80% Cossack_Ukrainian
00.80% Ket
00.40% Ju_hoan_North
00.40% Lithuanian_PA
00.20% Greek_Peloponnese
00.20% Sakha
G25 Ancient Averages (Scaled)
Distance: 0.02420
28.60% DEU_Welzin_BA_outlier2
23.60% HRV_Vucedol
09.00% DEU_MA_o
08.60% Kura-Araxes_ARM_Talin
08.00% Baltic_LVA_BA
06.20% GEO_CHG
04.60% HRV_Impressa_N
02.80% DEU_LBK_UW
02.40% TWN_Gongguan
02.00% CHN_Miaozigou_MN
02.00% RUS_Darkveti-Meshoko_En
01.00% Baltic_EST_BA
01.00% VNM_BA_Dong_Son_Culture
00.20% Bell_Beaker_Iberia_C
Marques K64
Distance: 0.02425
25.40% Balkan:HRV_Vucedol
24.60% Germanic_Europe:DEU_Welzin_BA_outlier2
17.20% South_Caucasus:GEO_CHG
08.40% Germanic_Europe:DEU_MA_o
06.20% Balkan:HRV_Impressa_N
04.40% Baltic:Baltic_LVA_BA
03.60% Central_Asia_and_steppe:Golden_hord
03.40% South_Chinese:Li
01.80% South_Caucasus:AZE_Caucasus_lowlands_LC
01.40% Sibérian:Ket
01.20% North_Caucasus:Abkhasian
01.00% Anatolia:TUR_Kaman-Kalehoyuk_MLBA_low_res
00.60% Indochina:VNM_BA_Dong_Son_Culture
00.60% Indonesian_Austronesian:AmiNA13607
00.20% Baltic:Baltic_EST_BA
Supreeeme World K134
Distance: 0.04062
56.60% Macedonia-Thessaly-Albania
19.40% Lithuanian-Estonian-Latvian
17.20% Abkhasian-Imer-Ossetian
03.20% Basque
02.20% Dai-Li-Mulam-Zhuang
00.80% Ami-Atayal-Luzon-Igorot
00.40% Bulgarian-Romanian-Moldovan-Macedonian
00.20% Ju_hoan
RyoHazuki
09-11-2020, 01:08 AM
Alright, so I've tried a couple models. Pretty nice, finally I can model my father's ancestry too in a more sophisticated way. Here's some of his nMonte results:
G25 Modern Averages (Scaled)
Distance: 0.03414
28.40% Sardinian
26.20% Georgian_Laz
22.60% Lithuanian_VA
16.20% Lithuanian_RA
02.80% Li
01.00% Abkhasian
00.80% Cossack_Ukrainian
00.80% Ket
00.40% Ju_hoan_North
00.40% Lithuanian_PA
00.20% Greek_Peloponnese
00.20% Sakha
G25 Ancient Averages (Scaled)
Distance: 0.02420
28.60% DEU_Welzin_BA_outlier2
23.60% HRV_Vucedol
09.00% DEU_MA_o
08.60% Kura-Araxes_ARM_Talin
08.00% Baltic_LVA_BA
06.20% GEO_CHG
04.60% HRV_Impressa_N
02.80% DEU_LBK_UW
02.40% TWN_Gongguan
02.00% CHN_Miaozigou_MN
02.00% RUS_Darkveti-Meshoko_En
01.00% Baltic_EST_BA
01.00% VNM_BA_Dong_Son_Culture
00.20% Bell_Beaker_Iberia_C
Marques K64
Distance: 0.02425
25.40% Balkan:HRV_Vucedol
24.60% Germanic_Europe:DEU_Welzin_BA_outlier2
17.20% South_Caucasus:GEO_CHG
08.40% Germanic_Europe:DEU_MA_o
06.20% Balkan:HRV_Impressa_N
04.40% Baltic:Baltic_LVA_BA
03.60% Central_Asia_and_steppe:Golden_hord
03.40% South_Chinese:Li
01.80% South_Caucasus:AZE_Caucasus_lowlands_LC
01.40% Sibérian:Ket
01.20% North_Caucasus:Abkhasian
01.00% Anatolia:TUR_Kaman-Kalehoyuk_MLBA_low_res
00.60% Indochina:VNM_BA_Dong_Son_Culture
00.60% Indonesian_Austronesian:AmiNA13607
00.20% Baltic:Baltic_EST_BA
Supreeeme World K134
Distance: 0.04062
56.60% Macedonia-Thessaly-Albania
19.40% Lithuanian-Estonian-Latvian
17.20% Abkhasian-Imer-Ossetian
03.20% Basque
02.20% Dai-Li-Mulam-Zhuang
00.80% Ami-Atayal-Luzon-Igorot
00.40% Bulgarian-Romanian-Moldovan-Macedonian
00.20% Ju_hoan
How does it compare to Vahaduo?
Chris596
09-11-2020, 09:15 AM
How does it compare to Vahaduo?
Well the results are mostly the same but you have a nice interface and some additional settings. The coolest thing is that you can get 4 population oracles (like on GEDmatch), using G25 coordinates, which is entirely new, and a couple new things as well, but it's only available in the pro version. This is why I'm going to buy the pro version soon.
I guess my father would get something like 50% Bulgarian + 25% Romanian + 25% Georgian or something like this.
JamesBond007
09-11-2020, 09:21 AM
Can it be accessed on GedMatch? I don't have Windows.
What are you retarded ? Use a virtual machine if you want to use it.
JamesBond007
09-11-2020, 09:27 AM
How does it compare to Vahaduo?
I want to see how it compares to genoplot I find the filter algorithm(s) they use interesting.
JamesBond007
09-11-2020, 09:28 AM
Well the results are mostly the same but you have a nice interface and some additional settings. The coolest thing is that you can get 4 population oracles (like on GEDmatch), using G25 coordinates, which is entirely new, and a couple new things as well, but it's only available in the pro version. This is why I'm going to buy the pro version soon.
I guess my father would get something like 50% Bulgarian + 25% Romanian + 25% Georgian or something like this.
Sorry, but I don't think the 4 population oracles is new if I am not mistaken genoplot did it first with G25.
Lucas
09-11-2020, 10:06 AM
Sorry, but I don't think the 4 population oracles is new if I am not mistaken genoplot did it first with G25.
It is isn't a secret knowledge. 4 pop oracle could be used with any calc since creation in 2011 (?).
Chris596
09-11-2020, 11:15 AM
Sorry, but I don't think the 4 population oracles is new if I am not mistaken genoplot did it first with G25.
Ohh alright I didn't know that. It would be cool anyway to see what my father gets as a result.
JamesBond007
09-11-2020, 11:27 AM
It is isn't a secret knowledge. 4 pop oracle could be used with any calc since creation in 2011 (?).
I guess you mean when using R studio ?
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