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Grace O'Malley
09-11-2020, 03:54 AM
Mine
https://i.imgur.com/UleSFpM.png
Daughter
https://i.imgur.com/XGSgAdc.png
Mortimer
09-11-2020, 04:02 AM
https://i.ibb.co/w0M7Yrq/Ancestry-DNAupdateethnicityestimate.jpg (https://ibb.co/dWGt7Jv)
Grace O'Malley
09-11-2020, 04:10 AM
https://i.ibb.co/w0M7Yrq/Ancestry-DNAupdateethnicityestimate.jpg (https://ibb.co/dWGt7Jv)
Nice varied result. Look how colourful your map is. :thumb001:
JamesBond007
09-11-2020, 04:10 AM
This is a useless clusterfuck :
https://i.postimg.cc/VLsK2q30/bork.png
Mortimer
09-11-2020, 04:11 AM
Nice varied result. Look how colourful your map is. :thumb001:
Yes Im chocolate you are vanilla. LOL. We dont decide what we are born as, so I dont think mine is better then yours or yours better then mine. You didnt choose to have those genes nor did I. But some liberals say "I want to be flavored Im boring etc." I dont think you are one of them though. You are proud to be irish.
frankhammer
09-11-2020, 04:15 AM
The latest update up top moving down through the updates back to 4 years ago and my first results.
Personally, Ancestry DNA's results don't gel with our family history as we know it. There is one grandfather who was from Donegal but a McBride so not a true Irishman. The rest are English or from what is now part of northern France. Bizarre how the Alsace-Lorraine seems to feature in some peoples western Europeans verbal geneology. It feels like the Euro version of the USA's "Cherokee".
https://i.imgur.com/0PuMSCn.png
https://i.imgur.com/CErGshh.png
https://i.imgur.com/ytg6s9L.jpg
JamesBond007
09-11-2020, 04:15 AM
Yes Im chocolate you are vanilla. LOL. We dont decide what we are born as, so I dont think mine is better then yours or yours better then mine. You didnt choose to have those genes nor did I. But some liberals say "I want to be flavored Im boring etc." I dont think you are one of them though. You are proud to be irish.
I think liberal political correctness has some affect on these commercial tests. That is why I had to analyze my raw dna file which tends to give different results from AncestryDNA.
Mortimer
09-11-2020, 04:18 AM
I think liberal political correctness has some affect on these commercial tests. That is why I had to analyze my raw dna file which tends to give different results from AncestryDNA.
Maybe but I think it is not really bad. My russian is now precise I should be technically 7% because my great great grandfather was a russian and that means 7% and Im 5% russia and 2% baltic quiete precise and cool. Before I was 30% eastern europe and russia, but that included the balkan, now balkan is a own category + there is also a seperate category for greek and albanian before that was all the same.
WhatsGoingOnBigGuy
09-11-2020, 04:18 AM
https://i.imgur.com/aaKWMG7.png
Still no Southern European somehow. Gained about 11% extra British isles. Seems some of my previous germanic europe was reassigned there.
Also I'm not aware how reliable the Scottish/Irish distinction is, do they seem accurate for those of you who are supposedly full Scottish or Irish?
Grace O'Malley
09-11-2020, 04:22 AM
There is going to be some inflated Scots in a lot of people's results as they have some obvious outliers in the Scottish cluster. I think it should be fairly accurate for people from the Isles but some people might get unexpected Scottish.
https://i.imgur.com/NtVANYI.png
Celestia
09-11-2020, 04:33 AM
No Scottish surnames in my family tree.
Also not sure where the Swedish came from but I’m assuming it’s Norwegian.
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=102090&d=1599798598
JamesBond007
09-11-2020, 04:36 AM
There is going to be some inflated Scots in a lot of people's results as they have some obvious outliers in the Scottish cluster. I think it should be fairly accurate for people from the Isles but some people might get unexpected Scottish.
]img]https://i.imgur.com/NtVANYI.png[/img]
Yours seems accurate but I'm skeptical about mine unless *gasp* the modern Irish are god forbid celto-germanic rather than just 'celtic'
G25 ancient
Distance to: Kevin_scaled
0.02218995 England_IA
0.02589647 ISL_Viking_Age_Pre_Christian
0.02652135 England_Saxon
0.02695867 Scotland_MBA
0.02790445 DEU_Halberstadt_LBA
0.02885695 England_MBA
Target: Kevin_scaled
Distance: 2.0805% / 0.02080510
64.0 England_Saxon
34.0 England_Roman
2.0 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna
England_Roman:3DT16,0.126344,0.14319,0.065619,0.05 7171,0.038469,0.021196,0.00141,-0.001154,0.008385,0.009659,0.003248,0.002997,-0.012785,-0.009358,0.014115,0.001061,-0.007953,0.003041,0.002011,-0.006753,0.005865,0.005935,-0.001479,0.007953,-0.000479
England_Roman:6DT18,0.125205,0.142174,0.058454,0.0 50388,0.046162,0.021196,0.0047,0.008538,-0.000818,0.005103,0.000487,0.012589,-0.017393,-0.020368,0.023887,0.006762,-0.005346,-0.003041,0.012444,0.001,0.007986,0.000866,-0.00419,0.013857,-0.003353
England_Roman:6DT21,0.126344,0.12491,0.061471,0.04 7804,0.027697,0.013945,0.005405,0.009923,-0.00225,-0.000911,-0.019487,0.012589,-0.011447,-0.007707,0.019951,0.006099,-0.008345,-0.003927,0.002765,0.003752,0.002246,0.001237,0.003 697,0.002289,-0.001317
England_Roman:6DT22,0.125205,0.140143,0.061094,0.0 45866,0.038776,0.014223,0.004935,0.005077,0.003068 ,0.000729,-0.004872,0.001349,-0.01115,-0.016928,0.016015,0.000796,0.000652,0.003927,0.006 159,0,0.003993,0.005441,-0.011462,-0.00012,-0.000359
England_Roman:6DT23,0.126344,0.141159,0.060339,0.0 46512,0.036622,0.009482,0.005405,0.008077,0.00225, 0.001458,-0.008607,0.006744,-0.016055,-0.007019,0.030944,-0.003845,-0.018906,0.004181,-0.003268,0.012506,0.004492,-0.004081,-0.010476,0.008917,-0.001916
England_Roman:6DT3,0.132035,0.13405,0.058077,0.050 711,0.033237,0.029005,0.008225,0.003461,0.001023,-0.004556,-0.005034,0.005245,-0.017096,-0.005918,0.028908,-0.011403,-0.023469,0.001774,0.003142,0.006378,0.010731,0.000 124,-0.002588,0.011086,0.002874
England_Saxon:I0157,0.129758,0.140143,0.065996,0.0 59109,0.037853,0.019801,0.00752,0.007615,0.006749,-0.00656,-0.006496,0.008992,-0.009217,-0.01156,0.028908,0.007955,-0.006258,0.000253,0.008045,0.009755,0.003619,-0.003215,-0.005176,0.025666,-0.002874
England_Saxon:I0159,0.130897,0.135065,0.062979,0.0 53618,0.038161,0.023148,0.00329,0.006461,0.001023,-0.000729,-0.001299,0.006894,-0.014569,-0.010322,0.028366,0.010342,-0.007432,0.000507,0.004525,0.008254,0.001373,0.007 296,-0.005916,0.012773,0.003592
England_Saxon:I0161,0.12862,0.13405,0.061848,0.048 127,0.04647,0.020638,0.004465,0.005077,0.006749,0. 004738,-0.002436,0.004946,-0.006987,-0.012799,0.024158,0.006895,0.004563,0.0019,0.00364 5,0.005503,0.002246,-0.00272,0.006779,0.016267,0.003233
England_Saxon:I0769,0.129758,0.132019,0.070899,0.0 59432,0.044624,0.025937,0.00282,0.005538,0,-0.006743,-0.006171,0.004796,-0.012785,-0.012386,0.028366,0.0179,0.00691,-0.003674,0.006159,0.008004,0.008235,0.005193,0.000 37,0.019521,0.002036
England_Saxon:I0773,0.141141,0.126941,0.063356,0.0 71383,0.044008,0.024263,0.00799,0.011307,0.00409,-0.00656,-0.005359,0.005395,-0.01219,-0.013074,0.021172,0.011668,-0.001434,0.000887,0.008673,0.008629,0.010981,0.003 957,-0.003081,0.015544,-0.007424
England_Saxon:I0774,0.134311,0.13405,0.054305,0.05 1034,0.038161,0.014223,0.013161,0.007615,0.001227, 0.003462,-0.004709,0.002548,-0.00446,-0.008257,0.018051,0.009016,-0.01004,0.005448,0.005908,0,0.002246,0.000371,0.00 0863,0.016267,-0.00467
England_Saxon:I0777,0.135449,0.136081,0.063356,0.0 50388,0.040315,0.019522,0.006345,0.009461,0.01084, 0.000182,-0.005196,0.001349,-0.003271,-0.020781,0.017101,0.020551,0.00326,0.002154,0.0047 77,0.008129,0.003993,0.00643,-0.00949,0.011929,-0.002754
England_Saxon:NO3423,0.129758,0.13405,0.068259,0.0 62339,0.0397,0.017012,0.004465,0.002077,0.001227,-0.007107,-0.007795,0.001499,-0.010852,-0.010459,0.027823,0.005569,-0.014212,0.004561,-0.000126,0.005002,0.009982,0.002473,0.002465,0.015 183,0.001916
SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_84001,0.133173,0.125926 ,0.076933,0.061047,0.041238,0.021196,0.002585,0.00 6461,0.000205,-0.012028,-0.000974,0.004046,-0.000297,-0.006331,0.018051,0.013259,0.009648,0.001647,-0.000754,0.00075,0.002371,0.000371,0.005176,0.0128 93,0.001437
SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_84005,0.127482,0.120848 ,0.072784,0.070414,0.042777,0.031794,0.00611,0.014 307,0.009817,-0.022051,-0.001461,-0.001349,0.00892,0.012386,0.012893,-0.007558,-0.01708,0.002027,0.00176,0.001626,0.001497,0.00507 ,0.006902,-0.000241,0.00467
SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_97002,0.129758,0.140143 ,0.05242,0.04845,0.045855,0.014781,0.00141,0.00207 7,-0.006954,-0.014943,-0.013641,0.001349,-0.012933,-0.001514,0.001629,0.009016,0.000782,0.001267,0.000 377,-0.006878,-0.00262,-0.006306,-0.002218,0.010001,0.000838
SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_grt035,0.130897,0.13608 1,0.07203,0.047158,0.036622,0.019801,0.00188,0.004 154,0.009613,-0.000547,-0.007795,0.001499,-0.011893,-0.01101,0.022937,0.002387,-0.001695,0.004561,-0.004651,0,0.006364,0.002473,0.001972,0.007109,0.0 02036
SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_grt036,0.132035,0.13303 4,0.065996,0.056202,0.0437,0.02008,0.004935,0.0119 99,0.006954,-0.012757,-0.003248,-0.002248,0.00223,-0.001789,0.002172,0.001591,-0.001956,0.001774,0.006159,0.005878,-0.007237,0.005935,0.003574,0.002048,0.003233
SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_gtm021,0.121791,0.11881 7,0.081081,0.067184,0.045239,0.023427,0.00752,0.01 2692,-0.005113,-0.014214,0.000487,0.002398,0.007433,0.001239,0.015 608,0.00305,-0.011474,0.001267,-0.002765,0.003502,0.01123,0.004822,0.00037,0.00879 6,-0.002275
SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_KAL006,0.133173,0.09444 4,0.085229,0.092701,0.038776,0.032909,0.017861,0.0 15922,0.004909,-0.038087,-0.001137,-0.012439,0.018137,0.016652,-0.002714,0.005701,0.001173,0.003167,0.005656,0.006 378,0.007112,-0.004575,0.011216,-0.001084,0.001437
SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_kls001,0.125205,0.12084 8,0.075047,0.058786,0.040623,0.026774,0.00658,0.01 9153,0.00859,0.000911,-0.007145,-0.000899,-0.016501,-0.007432,0.022258,0.0118,-0.003651,-0.011275,0.013827,0.010255,0.012478,0.021268,-0.017131,0.012532,0.008502
SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_nuf002,0.122929,0.13811 2,0.061848,0.047158,0.044316,0.012829,0.0094,-0.002538,0.007976,-0.008565,0.007632,0.016785,-0.006095,0.006331,0.024701,-0.004773,-0.022035,0.014062,0.008045,0.008129,0.006114,0.006 183,-0.009367,0.002771,-0.010658
SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_stg020,0.126344,0.11678 6,0.086361,0.0969,0.02462,0.021753,0.00423,0.01315 3,0.001023,-0.030798,0.007795,0.002698,0.009217,0.006331,-0.000271,0.023999,0.001825,-0.009375,0.004777,0.006628,0.000749,-0.003215,0.012078,0.002169,-0.007784
SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_stg021,0.125205,0.12287 9,0.065242,0.053295,0.041854,0.027889,0.00564,0.00 3461,0.005113,-0.002551,-0.007145,0.005695,-0.007582,-0.009771,0.012758,-0.008884,-0.017993,0.001394,0.007039,0.006253,-0.001996,0.005812,-0.002218,0.004097,0.001796
SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_stg026,0.125205,0.12897 2,0.077687,0.070737,0.04647,0.024542,0.00987,0.009 461,-0.000818,-0.010752,0.003897,0.004346,-0.002676,0.005092,0.004072,0.010872,0.001825,0.005 068,0.004777,0.004627,0.006738,0.000618,-0.000986,0.010483,0.000599
SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_urm035,0.117238,0.12694 1,0.079195,0.070091,0.039084,0.032072,0.00047,0.01 5692,0.011044,-0.021504,-0.003248,-0.001499,0.013825,0.007432,0.016151,0.016043,0.010 17,0.005448,0.003142,0.009505,0.005615,0.007419,0. 002588,0.016026,-0.002515
SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_urm160,0.125205,0.12186 4,0.076933,0.068153,0.041238,0.02761,0.008225,0.01 6615,-0.000818,-0.017312,0.003897,-0.004646,0.002973,0.009634,0.0076,0.006629,0.01225 6,-0.00038,0.000503,-0.004377,0.007861,0.000371,0.003697,0.010845,0.003 113
J. Ketch
09-11-2020, 04:36 AM
Me (half English/Irish, probable very minor Welsh)
https://i.postimg.cc/wj3hGdth/Opera-Snapshot-2020-09-11-140346-www-ancestry-com-au.png
Mother's (c. 97% English , c. 3% Irish)
https://i.postimg.cc/ZRLBqfBb/Opera-Snapshot-2020-09-11-140718-www-ancestry-com-au.png
Albannach
09-11-2020, 05:56 AM
My results are finally in, I am 50% Irish 50% Scottish on paper, so slightly higher Irish than I would have expected, but at least it's an improvement on LivingDNA which has me at 80% Irish I suppose. Still disappointed with my Scottish communities, I should have a couple from the Highlands as well as SW Scotland, but overall the results are not perfect but not far wrong.
https://i.imgur.com/HfHaqf5.png
Graham
09-11-2020, 06:14 AM
There is going to be some inflated Scots in a lot of people's results as they have some obvious outliers in the Scottish cluster. I think it should be fairly accurate for people from the Isles but some people might get unexpected Scottish.
https://i.imgur.com/NtVANYI.png
That plot was used as an example of identifying outliers according to its whitepaper.
We visually inspect candidates for removal based on a scatterplot like the one in Figure 2.2. Because
different collections of samples reveal different amounts of population structure, PCA and outlier removal
are repeated for different subsets of data. We first remove outliers at the global level (all samples
together), then at the continental level (e.g., outliers in a PCA using only European samples), then at the
regional level (e.g., outliers in a PCA of all Scandinavian samples), and finally at the population level
(e.g., outliers from a PCA of Norway).
Grace O'Malley
09-11-2020, 06:19 AM
That plot was used as an example of identifying outliers according to its whitepaper.
Thank you Graham. That clears up some confusion for a few people.
Graham
09-11-2020, 06:19 AM
There ye go. :)
https://i.postimg.cc/TPTtcqjD/image.png
Rædwald
09-11-2020, 06:36 AM
https://i.postimg.cc/zv6z9CJm/Capture.png
Haggis overload :bagpipe: :lol:
Longbowman
09-11-2020, 07:12 AM
Considering there's no Sephardic option, it's not too bad, I guess. Getting a bit better.
It was 99% European Jewish, 1% Anatolian.
Now it's 97% European Jewish, 2% Middle Eastern, 1% France.
Really, I should get 94% European Jewish, 6% Middle Eastern.
European Jewish has six sub-categories, all Ashkenazi: three are for Litvaks, and I am not Litvak. The other three (Germany/Low Countries, Visograd Group, West Ukraine/Moldova) all apply to me, but I only get West Ukraine, Moldova, and Eastern Romania. 50% of my ancestry comes from Western Ukraine, so, not bad, I suppose.
RatCat
09-11-2020, 07:17 AM
https://i.imgur.com/r9waMlX.png
Nice update for me.
ShieldWolf
09-11-2020, 09:04 AM
https://imgur.com/iw8PBN3https://i.imgur.com/huyvgn0.jpg
Not bad, but I should actually have at least 30% German ancestry.
https://i.imgur.com/pMkEEZR.png
https://i.imgur.com/1xVf9DZ.png
https://i.imgur.com/r9waMlX.png
Nice update for me.
Is your Trabzon half ethnically Turkish?
Stears
https://i.imgur.com/p7bDWOc.png
Hrvoje
https://i.imgur.com/ms0bzqv.png
Eastern Europe in ancestryDNA needs some work. Look for example genetic community of Bosnia, Croatia and NE Italy - first two have nothing in common with the third.
RatCat
09-11-2020, 11:30 AM
Is your Trabzon half ethnically Turkish?
Yes they are. But Trabzon Turks are genetically different than Anatolian Turks, my Trabzon side dont have any east eurasian admixture.
El_Abominacion
09-11-2020, 12:09 PM
https://i.gyazo.com/5801bad2c44aeb4133035eae49a88f6a.png
https://i.gyazo.com/5c7e094cf7b1cc8b7ee855ff17b8d0e9.jpg
paradox
09-11-2020, 12:31 PM
Mine
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200911/388ef2874a5795a9ee6f876f088c8f4f.jpg
My father's
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200911/69060c04389937f571630fc39feb2006.jpg
Rgvgjhvv
09-11-2020, 02:07 PM
https://i.ibb.co/sFFYTQs/Screenshot-20200911-100306.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/VTCzDpv/Screenshot-20200911-100428.jpg
El_Abominacion
09-11-2020, 02:11 PM
https://i.ibb.co/sFFYTQs/Screenshot-20200911-100306.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/VTCzDpv/Screenshot-20200911-100428.jpg
Very interesting, just like on 23andMe you show South Asian ancestry. What parts of mainland Greece/The islands do you have known ancestry from?
Slavic Italian
09-11-2020, 02:25 PM
Laugh Teutone.
England & Northwestern Europe 22%
Southern Italy 21%
Scotland 19%
Germanic Europe 12%
Eastern Europe & Russia 11%
Sweden 10%
The Balkans 3%
Finland 2%
Coastal Elite
09-11-2020, 02:35 PM
Looks like improved results. Kind of shows my prior results were way off.
https://i.imgur.com/MO6fJr0.jpg
Prior Results
https://i.imgur.com/8bmxLB3.jpg
oszkar07
09-11-2020, 02:36 PM
This is Better than the Last one for me
Eastern Europe & Russia
35%
Germanic Europe
22%
Ireland
19%
England & Northwestern Europe
15%
Norway
5%
Scotland
4%
Slavic Italian
09-11-2020, 02:37 PM
Better than the Last one for me
Eastern Europe & Russia
35%
Germanic Europe
22%
Ireland
19%
England & Northwestern Europe
15%
Norway
5%
Scotland
4%
They are getting much better.
Laugh Teutone.
England & Northwestern Europe 22%
Southern Italy 21%
Scotland 19%
Germanic Europe 12%
Eastern Europe & Russia 11%
Sweden 10%
The Balkans 3%
Finland 2%
Only 11% east euro and 3% balkan?
You are not "mostly Slavic" at all.
Just another larping Euromutt.
Benyzero
09-11-2020, 02:45 PM
Laugh Teutone.
England & Northwestern Europe 22%
Southern Italy 21%
Scotland 19%
Germanic Europe 12%
Eastern Europe & Russia 11%
Sweden 10%
The Balkans 3%
Finland 2%
that 11% supposed to cover the slavic in your nickname?
Slavic Italian
09-11-2020, 02:45 PM
Only 11% east euro and 3% balkan?
You are not "mostly Slavic" at all.
Just another larping Euromutt.
Thanks for the insights. I have always said I am Mixed. That is my handle on Anthrogenica. You have to remember my results have changed A LOT through the years. My Y Chromosome is YP1337. That is Slavic.
Slavic Italian
09-11-2020, 02:46 PM
that 11% supposed to cover the slavic in your nickname?
My Chromosome does that.
Slavic Italian
09-11-2020, 02:48 PM
Only 11% east euro and 3% balkan?
You are not "mostly Slavic" at all.
Just another larping Euromutt.
https://yfull.com/tree/R-YP1337/
RyoHazuki
09-11-2020, 02:49 PM
Very dissapointed, was hoping this would actually improve my result, but still sucks as much as it did before unfortunately. It still says I am pan-Northern European, just with more groups and (somehow) increased Scandinavian and Scottish ancestry being more Northern shifted than before?. :picard1: Not a fan of AncestryDNA at all, I thought my French ancestry would be discernable from English but apparently it's easier to split hairs over already close Northern Europeans. I'll stick to G25.
https://i.imgur.com/x1FQgq6_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium
Slavic Italian
09-11-2020, 02:49 PM
that 11% supposed to cover the slavic in your nickname?
I embrace my Euro diversity. I have the DNA of the Romans, Vikings, and Slavs.
Benyzero
09-11-2020, 02:50 PM
I embrace my Euro diversity. I have the DNA of the Romans, Vikings, and Slavs.
Iam mixed genetically too, but I don't call myself slavicbeny or germanzero...Its ok tho
Slavic Italian
09-11-2020, 02:51 PM
Iam mixed genetically too, but I don't call myself slavicbeny or germanzero...Its ok tho
Look at my signature. That was from DNA Tribes. I based it off that. You want me to call myself Mutt now?
El_Abominacion
09-11-2020, 02:54 PM
Very dissapointed, was hoping this would actually improve my result, but still sucks as much as it did before unfortunately. It still says I am pan-Northern European, just with more groups and (somehow) increased Scandinavian and Scottish ancestry being more Northern shifted than before?. :picard1: Not a fan of AncestryDNA at all, I thought my French ancestry would be discernable from English but apparently it's easier to split hairs over already close Northern Europeans. I'll stick to G25.
https://i.imgur.com/x1FQgq6_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium
Are you half French or a quarter? Very weird how you don't even have 1% showing up, I am about 1/8 and it gives me 10%
RyoHazuki
09-11-2020, 02:57 PM
Only 11% east euro and 3% balkan?
You are not "mostly Slavic" at all.
Just another larping Euromutt.
The ancestry estimate kinda sucks. I may as well be some purely Anglo-Germanic type going by these results as well.
RyoHazuki
09-11-2020, 02:59 PM
Are you half French or a quarter? Very weird how you don't even have 1% showing up, I am about 1/8 and it gives me 10%
I'm jealous of you. Quarter from south, 1/8 North. I dislike AncestryDNA a lot, it's always been like this.
Rgvgjhvv
09-11-2020, 02:59 PM
Very interesting, just like on 23andMe you show South Asian ancestry. What parts of mainland Greece/The islands do you have known ancestry from?
Genetically 50% Samos (Island) 50% Peloponnese (Mainland). Most likely from Roma migrations. Looks like it's from my dad's side (Samos). Would love to learn the details - but we don't know anything!
Slavic Italian
09-11-2020, 03:02 PM
The ancestry estimate kinda sucks. I may as well be some purely Anglo-Germanic type going by these results as well.
They took 11% from my Slav and made it German. :) You don't like the Germanics? I joke a lot but they are smart people.
Celestia
09-11-2020, 03:04 PM
Very dissapointed, was hoping this would actually improve my result, but still sucks as much as it did before unfortunately. It still says I am pan-Northern European, just with more groups and (somehow) increased Scandinavian and Scottish ancestry being more Northern shifted than before?. :picard1: Not a fan of AncestryDNA at all, I thought my French ancestry would be discernable from English but apparently it's easier to split hairs over already close Northern Europeans. I'll stick to G25.
My family has the same issues with these dna tests. I have centuries of French surnames in my family tree yet my family hardly scores French on AncestryDNA..In fact I didn’t receive any and my sisters and mother only received 2%.
23andme has been more accurate in my case.
Oneeye
09-11-2020, 03:06 PM
YES! Sweden dropped from 20 to 7 and Norwegian went from 6 to 19%
https://i.ibb.co/K94rTSg/Screenshot-20200911-080443-Samsung-Internet.jpg (https://ibb.co/7GM1sLD)
ShieldWolf
09-11-2020, 03:12 PM
Everybody is Scottish now. ;)
Rgvgjhvv
09-11-2020, 03:15 PM
Genetically 50% Samos (Island) 50% Peloponnese (Mainland). Most likely from Roma migrations. Looks like it's from my dad's side (Samos). Would love to learn the details - but we don't know anything!
https://i.ibb.co/fDZZ5sL/Screen-Shot-2020-09-11-at-11-12-27-AM.png
https://i.ibb.co/wg3Msf7/Screen-Shot-2020-09-11-at-11-12-46-AM.png
JamesBond007
09-11-2020, 03:17 PM
The ancestry estimate kinda sucks. I may as well be some purely Anglo-Germanic type going by these results as well.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who has a problem with the results so I know I'm not going crazy. I think my results have me as too celtic. This sh*t is driving me crazy man. Most reputable third party stuff , analyzing my raw file, e.g. Eurogenes K13, Eurogenes K15, G25, UCLA analysis, Stanford university Analysis, Tolan and Lukasz analysis of k36 components have me as either British or Dutch but this crazy ancestryDNA wants to me I'm an Anglo-Celt or something.
Rgvgjhvv
09-11-2020, 03:20 PM
My wifey's:
https://i.ibb.co/8207xbh/Screen-Shot-2020-09-11-at-11-17-26-AM.png
https://i.ibb.co/Bjnst3t/Screen-Shot-2020-09-11-at-11-17-47-AM.png
Oneeye
09-11-2020, 03:20 PM
Everybody is Scottish now. ;)
I have a couple scattered in my tree.
RyoHazuki
09-11-2020, 03:26 PM
They took 11% from my Slav and made it German. :) You don't like the Germanics? I joke a lot but they are smart people.
No hatred to Germanics, just bad DNA tests
Slavic Italian
09-11-2020, 03:30 PM
No hatred to Germanics, just bad DNA tests
They shifted my Slavic more to the East. I'm happy with that. These results were ok for me.
RyoHazuki
09-11-2020, 03:30 PM
My family has the same issues with these dna tests. I have centuries of French surnames in my family tree yet my family hardly scores French on AncestryDNA..In fact I didn’t receive any and my sisters and mother only received 2%.
23andme has been more accurate in my case.
Same myself.
alnortedelsur
09-11-2020, 03:38 PM
Everybody is Scottish now. ;)
I'm not in my new update xD
I'm about to post it in few minutes.
JamesBond007
09-11-2020, 03:48 PM
No hatred to Germanics, just bad DNA tests
I think I might trust Jews more than Mormons. AncestryDNA is run by Mormons from Utah. I'm from New York so Mormons from Utah might as well be from Bumfuck Egypt as far as I'm concerned. I don't understand why there are a million different calculators and updates to AncestryDNA then G25 on top of all that.
Jews made this it puts me in England :
http://genetics.cs.ucla.edu/spa/
It plots me in England too :
https://gen3553.pagesperso-orange.fr/ADN/Europe.htm
This maps me to the Netherlands and England :
https://gen3553.pagesperso-orange.fr/ADN/similitude.htm
JamesBond007
09-11-2020, 03:49 PM
I'm not in my new update xD
I'm about to post it in few minutes.
I'm keeping an open mind that I could be Scottish but lowland Scots are Germanic and very close to the English genetically anyway. I don't think I'm Irish though.
ShieldWolf
09-11-2020, 03:50 PM
I have a couple scattered in my tree.
I have more than a few, so no problem here. :bagpipe:
alnortedelsur
09-11-2020, 04:02 PM
My latest update (click to expand):
https://i.imgur.com/LDUx7iC.png
My latest update (click to expand):
[img]https://i.imgur.com/LDUx7iC.png
You can now update your profile to 89% European, 6% Indigenous American, 5% African. Sounds good to me :cool:
alnortedelsur
09-11-2020, 04:17 PM
You can now update your profile to 89% European, 6% Indigenous American, 5% African. Sounds good to me :cool:
I think I'll keep it like that for now, since I still score 7% Amerindian in 23andme, and I also score 7% Amerindian on different Gedmatch and G25 calculators :)
RyoHazuki
09-11-2020, 05:15 PM
https://i.imgur.com/aaKWMG7.png
Still no Southern European somehow. Gained about 11% extra British isles. Seems some of my previous germanic europe was reassigned there.
Also I'm not aware how reliable the Scottish/Irish distinction is, do they seem accurate for those of you who are supposedly full Scottish or Irish?
Ancestry is only worth it for raw data
RyoHazuki
09-11-2020, 05:16 PM
No Scottish surnames in my family tree.
Also not sure where the Swedish came from but I’m assuming it’s Norwegian.
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=102090&d=1599798598
Very similar percentage to mine with all the same issues too, lol
Slavic Italian
09-11-2020, 05:23 PM
My latest update (click to expand):
https://i.imgur.com/LDUx7iC.png
You were created in a lab.
Teutonski
09-11-2020, 06:30 PM
Laugh Teutone.
England & Northwestern Europe 22%
Southern Italy 21%
Scotland 19%
Germanic Europe 12%
Eastern Europe & Russia 11%
Sweden 10%
The Balkans 3%
Finland 2%
Guess I deserve the name SlavicGerman more than you GermanItalian
https://youtu.be/kdOPBP9vuZA
But seriously I dont give a fuck
Slavic Italian
09-11-2020, 06:50 PM
Guess I deserve the name SlavicGerman more than you GermanItalian
https://youtu.be/kdOPBP9vuZA
But seriously I dont give a fuck
You have to have a Slavic Y Chromosome like me first.
Graham
09-11-2020, 07:05 PM
Everybody is Scottish now. ;)
We're a' Jock Tamson's bairns.
:pray::bagpipe::punjabidance
Centurion
09-11-2020, 07:45 PM
Great! I find that my updated results are brilliants and make a lot of sense.:D
https://i.ibb.co/Qb5Nd82/Ancestry-DNA2020.png (https://ibb.co/8Kh5czW)
You can click on the image to display it bigger.
Catkin
09-11-2020, 08:15 PM
On paper I am about 2/3 English so my English seems a bit low. My communities are spot-on, my English is all southern. In the little villages my ancestors are from there are still street names and farms with my ancestors’ surnames.
My Scottish seems too high from what I know on paper, and my Irish probably too low.
My grandad was Irish. One of his grandparents was perhaps northern Irish, which could have a Scottish link, but that’s only my gg-grandmother. I have another gggg-grandmother who’s Scottish, but that’s it for known Scottish in my tree. I have an additional ggg-grandmother who was Irish.
I have a ggg-grandfather who was Welsh (my male line) and a ggg-grandfather who was German. Both of these could be about 3% so may explain the Welsh and Germanic Europe scores.
I notice lots of English and Scottish score a small amount of Norwegian. I don’t have any known ancestors.
Always fun to get a new update :)
https://i.ibb.co/McXLJb3/41-C657-D4-C528-44-F1-98-BE-1-AAF4-ACDFD5-F.jpg
Smitty
09-11-2020, 08:46 PM
My mom's:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=102108&d=1599856999
Maybe a tad more accurate. At least, there is some sign of Italian, although it's still far from a quarter (even including the Balkans, which is a stretch). Sweden and Balkans make no sense whatsoever. I guess they're going the Vahaduo route and using the Balkans to cover both Slavic and Mediterranean genes.
Prior results were
50% Germanic Europe
43% Eastern Europe and Russia
3% England, Wales, and Northwestern Europe
2% Baltics
1% Greece and Balkans
1% Sardinia
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J. Ketch
09-11-2020, 10:08 PM
Great! I find that my updated results are brilliants and make a lot of sense.:D
https://i.ibb.co/Qb5Nd82/Ancestry-DNA2020.png (https://ibb.co/8Kh5czW)
You can click on the image to display it bigger.
Would you mind posting your GEDmatch results (K13/K15)?
Thambi
09-11-2020, 10:43 PM
looks good. pretty much the same for me but instead of southern/eastern broad category, they changed it to just southern india. Its accurate. Dont get the point of highlighting bangladesh and part of northeast india though lol. They're quite different from south indians given their east asian mix.
https://i.imgur.com/oPQUqCP.png
El_Abominacion
09-11-2020, 10:49 PM
looks good. pretty much the same for me but instead of southern/eastern broad category, they changed it to just southern india. Its accurate. Dont get the point of highlighting bangladesh and part of northeast india though lol. They're quite different from south indians given their east asian mix.
https://i.imgur.com/oPQUqCP.png
Yeah i'm not sure why they did that. They did something similar with the Northern China category, highlighting a tiny region in Northern Bhutan
https://i.gyazo.com/0a4453df3c9e6b37f93452735c8a3405.png
Thambi
09-11-2020, 10:58 PM
Yeah i'm not sure why they did that. They did something similar with the Northern China category, highlighting a tiny region in Northern Bhutan
https://i.gyazo.com/0a4453df3c9e6b37f93452735c8a3405.png
LOL why northern bit of bhutan specifically? makes no sense. they might as well highlight entire northern himalayan stretch, western china overall as well under northern china (except for xinjiang given the uygurs).
Mortimer
09-11-2020, 11:53 PM
I'm keeping an open mind that I could be Scottish but lowland Scots are Germanic and very close to the English genetically anyway. I don't think I'm Irish though.
Dude you said you know you are irish and that even your surname is irish. Why do you now you say you are not irish? You are probably a mix of irish and english. You know that though.
Great! I find that my updated results are brilliants and make a lot of sense.:D
Excuse me, are you on Gedmatch? The updated Vahaduo Eu K13 oracle has a few regional references for France in case you didn't know.
Rædwald
09-12-2020, 12:25 AM
https://i.postimg.cc/SRxmK1JB/ancestry2020.png
https://i.postimg.cc/85H1NgPd/23.png
I'm still not entirely satisfied as Ancestry still fails to properly categorize my French ancesty.
Yet it still places me in the Maritime Acadian community. :confused:
Rgvgjhvv
09-12-2020, 12:44 AM
I'm still not entirely satisfied as Ancestry still fails to properly categorize my French ancesty.
Yet it still places me in the Maritime Acadian community. :confused:
That's dumb. My partner's went up 9% to 42%. Overall components are pretty accurate actually, all things considered. Bummer it wasn't the same for you.
oszkar07
09-12-2020, 12:45 AM
They are getting much better.
Well my result are an improvement with a much more realistic East Euro % but I find it hard to believe that I would not have any % of Balkan or Southern European although it may not be a lot still suprising it can be totally missed.
23and me allocates me 8.5% southern European which is partly Balkan partly southern Euro.
I think realistic amount Balkan/Sth Euro for me would be least between 3% to 5%.
Erronkari
09-12-2020, 12:58 AM
https://i.postimg.cc/SRxmK1JB/ancestry2020.png
https://i.postimg.cc/85H1NgPd/23.png
I'm still not entirely satisfied as Ancestry still fails to properly categorize my French ancesty.
Yet it still places me in the Maritime Acadian community. :confused:
My Gosh....
They hided your french one more time. :eek:
Erronkari
09-12-2020, 12:59 AM
https://i.postimg.cc/PqGnwjc6/Screenshot-20200911-214914.png (https://postimg.cc/K15H6dmL)
El_Abominacion
09-12-2020, 02:07 AM
It looks like they're being really stingy with French ancestry this time round, people with actual French ancestry are getting none. Last update they were dishing it out to everyone
Rædwald
09-12-2020, 02:15 AM
It looks like they're being really stingy with French ancestry this time round, people with actual French ancestry are getting none. Last update they were dishing it out to everyone
https://i.postimg.cc/SRWXbvYc/Screenshot-2018-08-06-at-00-20-32-1.png
Since my first results, they've never given me the appropriate amount. After the first update received I had 1% France, revised from the Europe West group here.
It's a mystery :coffee:
celticdragongod
09-12-2020, 02:27 AM
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El_Abominacion
09-12-2020, 02:29 AM
https://i.postimg.cc/SRWXbvYc/Screenshot-2018-08-06-at-00-20-32-1.png
Since my first results, they've never given me the appropriate amount. After the first update received I had 1% France, revised from the Europe West group here.
It's a mystery :coffee:
Weirdly for me they actually increased the French a lot this update, with me having 1/8 or so by knowledge and scoring 10%, and you and Ryo having over 1/4 and scoring none at all this time round.
I'm sure they would've noticed this error before they released the update. One thing they've done is made the 'France' bubble cover only a tiny portion of the country which i'm guessing is to cover up the miscalculations
https://i.gyazo.com/13cfb625e96c1459108499c47b2c3f05.png
celticdragongod
09-12-2020, 03:18 AM
Yours seems accurate but I'm skeptical about mine unless *gasp* the modern Irish are god forbid celto-germanic rather than just 'celtic'
G25 ancient
Distance to: Kevin_scaled
0.02218995 England_IA
0.02589647 ISL_Viking_Age_Pre_Christian
0.02652135 England_Saxon
0.02695867 Scotland_MBA
0.02790445 DEU_Halberstadt_LBA
0.02885695 England_MBA
Target: Kevin_scaled
Distance: 2.0805% / 0.02080510
64.0 England_Saxon
34.0 England_Roman
2.0 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna
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England_Roman:6DT21,0.126344,0.12491,0.061471,0.04 7804,0.027697,0.013945,0.005405,0.009923,-0.00225,-0.000911,-0.019487,0.012589,-0.011447,-0.007707,0.019951,0.006099,-0.008345,-0.003927,0.002765,0.003752,0.002246,0.001237,0.003 697,0.002289,-0.001317
England_Roman:6DT22,0.125205,0.140143,0.061094,0.0 45866,0.038776,0.014223,0.004935,0.005077,0.003068 ,0.000729,-0.004872,0.001349,-0.01115,-0.016928,0.016015,0.000796,0.000652,0.003927,0.006 159,0,0.003993,0.005441,-0.011462,-0.00012,-0.000359
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England_Roman:6DT3,0.132035,0.13405,0.058077,0.050 711,0.033237,0.029005,0.008225,0.003461,0.001023,-0.004556,-0.005034,0.005245,-0.017096,-0.005918,0.028908,-0.011403,-0.023469,0.001774,0.003142,0.006378,0.010731,0.000 124,-0.002588,0.011086,0.002874
England_Saxon:I0157,0.129758,0.140143,0.065996,0.0 59109,0.037853,0.019801,0.00752,0.007615,0.006749,-0.00656,-0.006496,0.008992,-0.009217,-0.01156,0.028908,0.007955,-0.006258,0.000253,0.008045,0.009755,0.003619,-0.003215,-0.005176,0.025666,-0.002874
England_Saxon:I0159,0.130897,0.135065,0.062979,0.0 53618,0.038161,0.023148,0.00329,0.006461,0.001023,-0.000729,-0.001299,0.006894,-0.014569,-0.010322,0.028366,0.010342,-0.007432,0.000507,0.004525,0.008254,0.001373,0.007 296,-0.005916,0.012773,0.003592
England_Saxon:I0161,0.12862,0.13405,0.061848,0.048 127,0.04647,0.020638,0.004465,0.005077,0.006749,0. 004738,-0.002436,0.004946,-0.006987,-0.012799,0.024158,0.006895,0.004563,0.0019,0.00364 5,0.005503,0.002246,-0.00272,0.006779,0.016267,0.003233
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England_Saxon:I0773,0.141141,0.126941,0.063356,0.0 71383,0.044008,0.024263,0.00799,0.011307,0.00409,-0.00656,-0.005359,0.005395,-0.01219,-0.013074,0.021172,0.011668,-0.001434,0.000887,0.008673,0.008629,0.010981,0.003 957,-0.003081,0.015544,-0.007424
England_Saxon:I0774,0.134311,0.13405,0.054305,0.05 1034,0.038161,0.014223,0.013161,0.007615,0.001227, 0.003462,-0.004709,0.002548,-0.00446,-0.008257,0.018051,0.009016,-0.01004,0.005448,0.005908,0,0.002246,0.000371,0.00 0863,0.016267,-0.00467
England_Saxon:I0777,0.135449,0.136081,0.063356,0.0 50388,0.040315,0.019522,0.006345,0.009461,0.01084, 0.000182,-0.005196,0.001349,-0.003271,-0.020781,0.017101,0.020551,0.00326,0.002154,0.0047 77,0.008129,0.003993,0.00643,-0.00949,0.011929,-0.002754
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SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_gtm021,0.121791,0.11881 7,0.081081,0.067184,0.045239,0.023427,0.00752,0.01 2692,-0.005113,-0.014214,0.000487,0.002398,0.007433,0.001239,0.015 608,0.00305,-0.011474,0.001267,-0.002765,0.003502,0.01123,0.004822,0.00037,0.00879 6,-0.002275
SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_KAL006,0.133173,0.09444 4,0.085229,0.092701,0.038776,0.032909,0.017861,0.0 15922,0.004909,-0.038087,-0.001137,-0.012439,0.018137,0.016652,-0.002714,0.005701,0.001173,0.003167,0.005656,0.006 378,0.007112,-0.004575,0.011216,-0.001084,0.001437
SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_kls001,0.125205,0.12084 8,0.075047,0.058786,0.040623,0.026774,0.00658,0.01 9153,0.00859,0.000911,-0.007145,-0.000899,-0.016501,-0.007432,0.022258,0.0118,-0.003651,-0.011275,0.013827,0.010255,0.012478,0.021268,-0.017131,0.012532,0.008502
SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_nuf002,0.122929,0.13811 2,0.061848,0.047158,0.044316,0.012829,0.0094,-0.002538,0.007976,-0.008565,0.007632,0.016785,-0.006095,0.006331,0.024701,-0.004773,-0.022035,0.014062,0.008045,0.008129,0.006114,0.006 183,-0.009367,0.002771,-0.010658
SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_stg020,0.126344,0.11678 6,0.086361,0.0969,0.02462,0.021753,0.00423,0.01315 3,0.001023,-0.030798,0.007795,0.002698,0.009217,0.006331,-0.000271,0.023999,0.001825,-0.009375,0.004777,0.006628,0.000749,-0.003215,0.012078,0.002169,-0.007784
SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_stg021,0.125205,0.12287 9,0.065242,0.053295,0.041854,0.027889,0.00564,0.00 3461,0.005113,-0.002551,-0.007145,0.005695,-0.007582,-0.009771,0.012758,-0.008884,-0.017993,0.001394,0.007039,0.006253,-0.001996,0.005812,-0.002218,0.004097,0.001796
SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_stg026,0.125205,0.12897 2,0.077687,0.070737,0.04647,0.024542,0.00987,0.009 461,-0.000818,-0.010752,0.003897,0.004346,-0.002676,0.005092,0.004072,0.010872,0.001825,0.005 068,0.004777,0.004627,0.006738,0.000618,-0.000986,0.010483,0.000599
SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_urm035,0.117238,0.12694 1,0.079195,0.070091,0.039084,0.032072,0.00047,0.01 5692,0.011044,-0.021504,-0.003248,-0.001499,0.013825,0.007432,0.016151,0.016043,0.010 17,0.005448,0.003142,0.009505,0.005615,0.007419,0. 002588,0.016026,-0.002515
SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_urm160,0.125205,0.12186 4,0.076933,0.068153,0.041238,0.02761,0.008225,0.01 6615,-0.000818,-0.017312,0.003897,-0.004646,0.002973,0.009634,0.0076,0.006629,0.01225 6,-0.00038,0.000503,-0.004377,0.007861,0.000371,0.003697,0.010845,0.003 113
What you keep forgetting is that the Anglo-Saxons and the British and Irish Celts were descended from the Dutch Bell Beakers and therefore cousins.
Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.02505466 England_Saxon:I0774
0.02521146 England_Saxon:I0159
0.02677443 England_Saxon:I0161
0.02774438 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_grt035
0.02833758 England_Saxon:I0157
0.02836776 England_Saxon:NO3423
0.02997703 England_Roman:6DT3
0.03028696 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_stg021
0.03087437 England_Roman:6DT18
0.03199269 England_Roman:3DT16
0.03249859 England_Roman:6DT21
0.03270508 England_Roman:6DT23
0.03615060 England_Roman:6DT22
0.03770922 England_Saxon:I0773
0.03827150 England_Saxon:I0777
0.03855419 England_Saxon:I0769
0.03911270 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_grt036
0.04252669 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_84001
0.04505565 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_nuf002
0.04570763 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_97002
0.04930677 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_stg026
0.05021313 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_kls001
0.05119074 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_gtm021
0.05615310 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_84005
0.05860202 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_urm160
Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 1.5860% / 0.01585975
47.8 England_Saxon
39.0 England_Roman
13.2 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna
Skeleton
09-12-2020, 03:36 AM
IMO it’s inaccurate for me.
I have no known Scandinavian ancestry. It doesn’t pick up on any French ancestry despite me having known French Canadian ancestors. It barely picks up on any Eastern European ancestry despite known Polish ancestors. The Irish seems accurate, but the English seems to high. 102150102151
https://i.postimg.cc/SRWXot-2018-08-06-at-00-20-32-1.png
Since my first results, they've never given me the appropriate amount. After the first update received I had 1% France, revised from the Europe West group here.
It's a mystery :coffee:
If your French ancestry is from the north (NW in particular, Norman or Breton) than it may be hidden under British, because genetically some nw french are very british like and hard to distinguish from other northwest europeans.
If your ancestry is for example south French and Ancestry failed to pick it up, than I have no idea/explanation.
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True Irish! Americans like you must be in the minority.
Smitty
09-12-2020, 03:48 AM
It looks like Denmark has been moved to the Sweden category, which is definitely more reasonable than England, Wales, & NW Europe.
It looks like Denmark has been moved to the Sweden category, which is definitely more reasonable than England, Wales, & NW Europe.
It should have it's own, if Norway and Sweden do.
Smitty
09-12-2020, 04:07 AM
It should have it's own, if Norway and Sweden do.
I agree. But I don't think they can even tell between Norway and Sweden. People seem to get both, regardless of which country they come from.
rurov0
09-12-2020, 04:10 AM
Eastern Europe and Russia: 83%
(with lithuania as a community)
Baltics: 16%
England and Northwestern Europe: 1%
What confuses me is the 1% English. Ive never had it before so i guess somethings off with this new update? Im only aware of Russians and Belarusians in my family tree. What do you guys think?
Rædwald
09-12-2020, 04:13 AM
If your French ancestry is from the north (NW in particular, Norman or Breton) than it may be hidden under British, because genetically some nw french are very british like and hard to distinguish from other northwest europeans.
If your ancestry is for example south French and Ancestry failed to pick it up, than I have no idea/explanation.
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. Most of my recent French ancestors are from Brittany, Normandy, Picardy, and so on.
PaleoEuropean
09-12-2020, 04:36 AM
It looks like Denmark has been moved to the Sweden category, which is definitely more reasonable than England, Wales, & NW Europe.
Yea but England now includes Switzerland xD
JamesBond007
09-12-2020, 04:59 AM
I agree. But I don't think they can even tell between Norway and Sweden. People seem to get both, regardless of which country they come from.
Jérôme Hamon can tell the difference between Swedish genetics and Danish genetics I bet :
https://gen3553.pagesperso-orange.fr/
JamesBond007
09-12-2020, 04:59 AM
Yea but England now includes Switzerland xD
Americans are TEH rocket scientists of TEH worldz and sheeit nukka G !
I agree. But I don't think they can even tell between Norway and Sweden. People seem to get both, regardless of which country they come from.
Hrvoje gets only Swedish though. Must be misinterpreted German in his case as there is no Swedish ancestry in Croatia/Slovenia whatsoever.
JamesBond007
09-12-2020, 05:59 AM
Meangingless American Clusterfuck vs European scientific precision :
https://i.postimg.cc/DZTj2z2S/bork.png
https://www.lm-genetics.com/services/k36-ancestry-report
https://i.postimg.cc/3wW25QMP/kevin.png
https://gen3553.pagesperso-orange.fr/ADN/Europe.htm
Accurate to within 400 kilometers :
https://i.postimg.cc/D0tbTSTD/k36gps2.png
RyoHazuki
09-12-2020, 06:08 AM
If your French ancestry is from the north (NW in particular, Norman or Breton) than it may be hidden under British, because genetically some nw french are very british like and hard to distinguish from other northwest europeans.
If your ancestry is for example south French and Ancestry failed to pick it up, than I have no idea/explanation.
I have Southern French ancestry and I still believe they somehow just never "dug it out" from the English percentage.
I have Southern French ancestry and I still believe they somehow just never "dug it out" from the English percentage.
But south French and English are not similar at all. Your 23andme shows Ille de France as your main (only?) French region, that's north.
Are you certain your French is from the south?
Grace O'Malley
09-12-2020, 07:47 AM
Very similar percentage to mine with all the same issues too, lol
I saw a French Canadian with 99% France with this update.
JamesBond007
09-12-2020, 07:57 AM
But south French and English are not similar at all. Your 23andme shows Ille de France as your main (only?) French region, that's north.
Are you certain your French is from the south?
I'm certain AncestryDNA is full of shit. It has me as Anglo-Celtic mostly when my Eurogenes k36 nmonte breakdown is mostly Germanic :
https://i.postimg.cc/rscmT3Z1/admixturek36.png
My G25 results :
Distance to: Kevin_scaled
1.) 0.02865240 Dutch
2.) 0.02966293 Norwegian
Stop larping, you're annoying. You are half Irish and other half is part Anglo part German as far as I understand, and your DNA shows exactly like it should.
You are not "mostly Germanic" by any stretch of imagination. Accept already you are white American of mixed NW Euro stock and move on. With that 1% SSA xD
I wonder what will be next - you already larped as French, Dutch and Scottish.
Grace O'Malley
09-12-2020, 08:11 AM
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. Most of my recent French ancestors are from Brittany, Normandy, Picardy, and so on.
They need to split France up and have Brittany as it's own area also South France. If you look at the Irish and Scottish components they both are part of Brittany.
https://i.imgur.com/jT0WF0o.png
https://i.imgur.com/aqa9q0I.pnge
Meanwhile Wales just chilling and minding it's own business.
https://i.imgur.com/LdaLJgY.png
It does show how bizarre these clusters are when Brittany gets more Scottish than the Irish and also more Irish than the Scots. Having your own region makes a big difference.
**JC**
09-12-2020, 08:25 AM
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Irish ancestry missing after update.
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My mothers results fill in the gaps.
JamesBond007
09-12-2020, 08:28 AM
Stop larping, you're annoying. You are half Irish and other half is part Anglo part German as far as I understand, and your DNA shows exactly like it should.
You are not "mostly Germanic" by any stretch of imagination. Accept already you are white American of mixed NW Euro stock and move on. With that 1% SSA xD
I wonder what will be next - you already larped as French, Dutch and Scottish.
LOL @ the European defending 'AmeriKwan Mormon 'science' ' !:picard2:
JamesBond007
09-12-2020, 08:43 AM
Stop larping, you're annoying. You are half Irish and other half is part Anglo part German as far as I understand, and your DNA shows exactly like it should.
You are not "mostly Germanic" by any stretch of imagination. Accept already you are white American of mixed NW Euro stock and move on. With that 1% SSA xD
I wonder what will be next - you already larped as French, Dutch and Scottish.
I'm technically Germanic and Eurogenes K36, LivingDNA, Dna.land , myheritage etc.. etc... do not show 1% SSA :
https://i.postimg.cc/ZYx3nztv/jb007.png
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/512wukcpdFL.jpg
RyoHazuki
09-12-2020, 09:10 AM
But south French and English are not similar at all. Your 23andme shows Ille de France as your main (only?) French region, that's north.
Are you certain your French is from the south?
Absolutely England and South France are discernable, which is why I'm confused as to why it never shows and I'm left throwing guesses. No it's not the only region and yes it is certain and is represented by Iberians on most other tests. Going into the source code shows I actually have more IBD matches with Aquitania than Paris yet it still shows Paris as first, so I don't take it seriously. I have paper trail ancestry from Aquitaine.
https://i.imgur.com/uKLJUQp_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium
https://i.imgur.com/5mdJqeb_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium
Keep in mind the state of French DNA testing, we are missing lots sadly. There's even an instance of a 1/8 Sicilian member in this thread not getting any of that ancestry shown as well.
RyoHazuki
09-12-2020, 09:19 AM
I saw a French Canadian with 99% France with this update.
There is hope
IceQueen
09-12-2020, 11:58 AM
England 38%
Ireland 35%
Scotland 20%
Sweden 4%
Norway 3%
My results. Not bad, Scottish seems a little inflated though and I’m surprised to have no Welsh.
J. Ketch
09-12-2020, 02:14 PM
Absolutely England and South France are discernable, which is why I'm confused as to why it never shows and I'm left throwing guesses. No it's not the only region and yes it is certain and is represented by Iberians on most other tests. Going into the source code shows I actually have more IBD matches with Aquitania than Paris yet it still shows Paris as first, so I don't take it seriously. I have paper trail ancestry from Aquitaine.
Keep in mind the state of French DNA testing, we are missing lots sadly. There's even an instance of a 1/8 Sicilian member in this thread not getting any of that ancestry shown as well.
You might have just randomly inherited less from your French ancestry, same deal for Raedwald and Celestialsayer. If you had a fully French parent that wouldn't happen.
RyoHazuki
09-12-2020, 04:09 PM
You might have just randomly inherited less from your French ancestry, same deal for Raedwald and Celestialsayer. If you had a fully French parent that wouldn't happen.
It's also possible, and perhaps one of my siblings inherited more than me too.
celticdragongod
09-12-2020, 04:48 PM
True Irish! Americans like you must be in the minority.
Probably. My parents were immigrants to the US.
Slavic Italian
09-12-2020, 05:49 PM
Stop larping, you're annoying. You are half Irish and other half is part Anglo part German as far as I understand, and your DNA shows exactly like it should.
You are not "mostly Germanic" by any stretch of imagination. Accept already you are white American of mixed NW Euro stock and move on. With that 1% SSA xD
I wonder what will be next - you already larped as French, Dutch and Scottish.
Look at my 2 way Dodecad results. Tell me what you think about this report. You are sharp.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bcTRBbqTgrZbsF2RBqclT_fIbbkgwvfx/view
yowasgeht
09-17-2020, 10:12 PM
https://i.imgur.com/wBXs8iK.png
Graham
09-18-2020, 08:43 AM
England 38%
Ireland 35%
Scotland 20%
Sweden 4%
Norway 3%
My results. Not bad, Scottish seems a little inflated though and I’m surprised to have no Welsh.
Where in England ye fae? The average score for England has Scots in it. So probably some older connection.
English people of Irish ancestry might pick up Scots instead imo.
https://blogs.ancestry.com/ancestry/2020/09/11/why-your-latest-results-could-include-more-scotland-in-your-ethnicity-estimates/
https://blogs.ancestry.com/ancestry/files/2020/09/Picture2.pnghttps://blogs.ancestry.com/ancestry/files/2020/09/Picture4.png
IceQueen
09-18-2020, 12:11 PM
Where in England ye fae? The average score for England has Scots in it. So probably some older connection.
English people of Irish ancestry might pick up Scots instead imo.
https://blogs.ancestry.com/ancestry/2020/09/11/why-your-latest-results-could-include-more-scotland-in-your-ethnicity-estimates/
https://blogs.ancestry.com/ancestry/files/2020/09/Picture2.pnghttps://blogs.ancestry.com/ancestry/files/2020/09/Picture4.png
I come from Lancashire. That makes sense, my results are pretty typical then.
Coastal Elite
09-23-2020, 11:43 PM
https://i.imgur.com/MO6fJr0.jpg
Update for family members vs me
Sister
https://i.imgur.com/2nQWm02.jpg
Uncle
https://i.imgur.com/dTuuhsQ.jpg
Great Aunt (Maternal Grandfather's sister)
https://i.imgur.com/S0faTPA.jpg
wisteria
10-02-2020, 11:33 AM
https://i.imgur.com/hWc4ngN.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/h52leBq.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/nP2VfMi.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/gmSPWfH.jpg
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