aynora's MyHeritage + eurogenes K13 results

[aynora]

I got my results today and wanted to share them with you:

https://i.ibb.co/QjhMdqx/4.jpg

and the Eurogenes Gedmatch results:

https://i.ibb.co/R3d7Xwn/1.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/pn15DMg/2.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/MGcn5cY/3.jpg

[Celestia]

Congrats.

Now that one dude can be quiet about you not being German

[Jana]

Pure German and you are very Germanic. Typical results for NRW. Congrats!

[Leto]

Holy Moses, you are super white! Biodeutsche :cool:
Let me recommend you also Euro K15, Dodecad K12b and MDLP K23b.

[Alenka]

Congrats on your results!
:)

[aynora]

Holy Moses, you are super white! Biodeutsche :cool:
Let me recommend you also Euro K15, Dodecad K12b and MDLP K23b.

Hahaha thanks :D Can you tell me where I can try out Euro K15 and the other things you mentioned? Is it on Gedmatch too?

[Jana]

Closest TA members to Aynora (top 50)

Distance to: Aynora

2.83224293 Dandelion(Flemish)
3.53655199 Oneeye(Anglo_American)
3.70844981 Jackson(english)
3.73071039 Gooding(Anglo_American)
3.73938498 Thorns(white_american)
4.01545763 Mr.G_mother(german)
4.03312534 CreodaMum(English)
4.14210092 Catkin(english)
4.20896662 Teutone(german)
4.26123222 celticdragongod(irish-american)
4.40778856 Inf99Mom(usa)
4.51610452 Senpai(white_murican)
4.56320063 Jackson_father(english)
4.67559622 InfamousAngel99(amerimutt)
4.75143136 wisteria(usa)
4.84427497 frankhammer(British_NZer)
4.88559106 Jackson_grandpa(english)
4.89385329 **JC**(British-German)
4.89737685 TieRed_father(french_north)
5.02303693 Jingorex(white_american)
5.07401222 CordedWhelp_father(American)
5.18277918 acbrasil(white_brazilian)
5.22007663 Profileid(white_murican)
5.22237494 Graham's_Mum(scottish)
5.50467983 Token(German)
5.59532841 Dreger22310(french_breton)
5.61636893 GötterfunkeDad(German+Dutch)
5.66307337 Jackson_aunt(english)
5.85299923 Jackson_mother(english)
5.89157874 Celestia(usa)
5.92856644 Daco-Celtic-mom(Irish)
6.16166374 Neon_Knight(British+Irish)
6.22312622 Morticia(American)
6.30966719 Dreger22310_mother(french_breton)
6.34291731 Calpalsister(British+French+Ukrainian)
6.39958592 Norb(english)
6.45421568 Rædwald(English/French_Canadian)
6.45846731 Skeleton(White_American)
6.49049305 jtoml3(white_New_Zealander)
6.50473674 Inf99Dad(usa)
6.62970588 Reith(german/norse_american)
6.66570326 Skeleton_father(US_Southerner)
6.70486391 MotherKyp(SouthGerman)
6.71181794 Inf99MGma(usa)
6.71405987 Kevin/JamesBond(white_american)
6.85431981 Grace(irish)
7.13330218 yowasgeht_mom(RussiaGerman)
7.26665673 Grundig(German_American)
7.30230785 Firemonkey(british)
7.32368077 yowasgeht_father(RussiaGerman)

modeling her with other TA members

Target: Aynora
Distance: 0.7725% / 0.77249591 | ADC: 0.25x

24.8 Teutone(german)
21.4 Thorns(white_american)
19.0 Jackson(english)
18.8 Dandelion(Flemish)
12.2 Jackson_grandpa(english)
3.6 Oneeye(Anglo_American)
0.2 Reith(german/norse_american)

[Leto]

Hahaha thanks :D Can you tell me where I can try out Euro K15 and the other things you mentioned? Is it on Gedmatch too?
Yes, everything is on there. Or in the Admixture Studio alternatively.

[alnortedelsur]

Nice results!

Congratulations Aynora :)

Very legit German results, for those who said that you didn't look very German.

[Rocinante]

Nice! Congrats for your logical results.

[calxpal]

Congrats on getting your results =) very German lol :):cool:

[happycow]

Very nice! :cool:

[Kyp]

Nice results. Very Germanic! No slavic input whatsoever

[Luke35]

Mega German! :)

Please post Eurogenes K15 when you can, I'll plot you on the PCA, I'm curious how close you will be to my mother.

[Jana]

She is also not very Celtic, but very heavily Germanic, significantly closer to north German/north Dutch than to south Germans.

[Scandal]

Can you post your eurogenes k36 admixture proportions? There's an interesting similarity map for that.

[Terminator98]

Nice results. As expected, I suppose. :)

[alnortedelsur]

Hahaha thanks :D Can you tell me where I can try out Euro K15 and the other things you mentioned? Is it on Gedmatch too?

Yes, Eurogenes K15 into the Eurogenes category, Dodecad calculators under Dodecad category, and so on.

[Mixdguy17]

Congrats man!

Good for u, U can finally shut up that one guy that kept claiming u werent german.

[Mixdguy17]

Double

[Samnium]

Nothing surprising, people thought that you weren't german...

[aynora]

Closest TA members to Aynora (top 50)

Distance to: Aynora

2.83224293 Dandelion(Flemish)
3.53655199 Oneeye(Anglo_American)
3.70844981 Jackson(english)
3.73071039 Gooding(Anglo_American)
3.73938498 Thorns(white_american)
4.01545763 Mr.G_mother(german)
4.03312534 CreodaMum(English)
4.14210092 Catkin(english)
4.20896662 Teutone(german)
4.26123222 celticdragongod(irish-american)
4.40778856 Inf99Mom(usa)
4.51610452 Senpai(white_murican)
4.56320063 Jackson_father(english)
4.67559622 InfamousAngel99(amerimutt)
4.75143136 wisteria(usa)
4.84427497 frankhammer(British_NZer)
4.88559106 Jackson_grandpa(english)
4.89385329 **JC**(British-German)
4.89737685 TieRed_father(french_north)
5.02303693 Jingorex(white_american)
5.07401222 CordedWhelp_father(American)
5.18277918 acbrasil(white_brazilian)
5.22007663 Profileid(white_murican)
5.22237494 Graham's_Mum(scottish)
5.50467983 Token(German)
5.59532841 Dreger22310(french_breton)
5.61636893 GötterfunkeDad(German+Dutch)
5.66307337 Jackson_aunt(english)
5.85299923 Jackson_mother(english)
5.89157874 Celestia(usa)
5.92856644 Daco-Celtic-mom(Irish)
6.16166374 Neon_Knight(British+Irish)
6.22312622 Morticia(American)
6.30966719 Dreger22310_mother(french_breton)
6.34291731 Calpalsister(British+French+Ukrainian)
6.39958592 Norb(english)
6.45421568 Rædwald(English/French_Canadian)
6.45846731 Skeleton(White_American)
6.49049305 jtoml3(white_New_Zealander)
6.50473674 Inf99Dad(usa)
6.62970588 Reith(german/norse_american)
6.66570326 Skeleton_father(US_Southerner)
6.70486391 MotherKyp(SouthGerman)
6.71181794 Inf99MGma(usa)
6.71405987 Kevin/JamesBond(white_american)
6.85431981 Grace(irish)
7.13330218 yowasgeht_mom(RussiaGerman)
7.26665673 Grundig(German_American)
7.30230785 Firemonkey(british)
7.32368077 yowasgeht_father(RussiaGerman)

modeling her with other TA members

Target: Aynora
Distance: 0.7725% / 0.77249591 | ADC: 0.25x

24.8 Teutone(german)
21.4 Thorns(white_american)
19.0 Jackson(english)
18.8 Dandelion(Flemish)
12.2 Jackson_grandpa(english)
3.6 Oneeye(Anglo_American)
0.2 Reith(german/norse_american)

Wow, cool! How did you find that out?

[Jana]

Wow, cool! How did you find that out?

There is a thread about it :p

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?327894-Modeling-yourself-with-other-Apricity-members-using-vahaduo-eurogenes-k13

[Defcon2]

There is a thread about it :p

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?327894-Modeling-yourself-with-other-Apricity-members-using-vahaduo-eurogenes-k13

We ask her to order a G25? :p oh, no!

[aynora]

Here are some more results you requested:

K15 eurogenes:

https://i.ibb.co/tHLVc9B/5.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/yNqkZ3Z/6.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/x6JHGSX/7.jpg


Eurogenes K36 admix:

https://i.ibb.co/XY5Dnv8/8.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/kmtCDK1/9.jpg


Dodecad K12b:

https://i.ibb.co/F6SbMx9/10.jpg

MDLP K23b:

https://i.ibb.co/HtWqv9s/11.jpg

[Scandal]

Eurogenes K36 admix:

https://i.ibb.co/XY5Dnv8/8.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/kmtCDK1/9.jpg

Your k36 similarity map:

https://i.imgur.com/e3toMYk.jpg

[Leto]

50% West_German / 50% Swedish is pretty badass!

Dodecad oracle:

Target: aynora
Distance: 1.6394% / 1.63941322 | ADC: 0.5x
57.2 Mixed_NW_Euro
25.8 German
17.0 Bavarian_German

Target: aynora
Distance: 0.6862% / 0.68624516 | ADC: 0.25x
41.2 German
37.0 Mixed_NW_Euro
14.4 French2
6.6 Bavarian_German
0.8 Pulliyar

[Impaler]

Herzlichen Glückwunsch! :)

[Scandal]

Dodecad K12b:

https://i.ibb.co/F6SbMx9/10.jpg



Target: Aynora(German)
Distance: 0.7019% / 0.70192643 | ADC: 0.25x
49.4 Dutch
25.6 Bavarian_German
23.4 German
0.8 French2
0.8 Pulliyar



Distance to: Aynora(German)
5.32294092 Dutch
5.85317862 German
7.82691510 English_Kent
7.82992337 CEU30
8.04205819 English
8.23837363 Bavarian_German
9.17440461 British_Isles
10.31820721 French2
10.52747358 Cornwall
10.63981673 British
10.72696136 Argyll
10.94015996 French
11.08096115 Orkney
11.24837322 Irish
11.29989823 Orcadian
11.50244322 Slovenian
13.15903872 Slovak
13.77140879 Hungarians
13.82055353 Norwegian
14.46161125 Sorb_Lusatia
14.84043126 Croat
15.28115506 Swedish
15.29095811 HUN_Szekely
15.92924983 PL_GreaterPoland
16.28357455 Bosnian

[Scandal]

50% West_German / 50% Swedish is pretty badass!

Dodecad oracle:

Target: aynora
Distance: 1.6394% / 1.63941322 | ADC: 0.5x
57.2 Mixed_NW_Euro
25.8 German
17.0 Bavarian_German

Target: aynora
Distance: 0.6862% / 0.68624516 | ADC: 0.25x
41.2 German
37.0 Mixed_NW_Euro
14.4 French2
6.6 Bavarian_German
0.8 Pulliyar

I don't understand the point of having nonsensical source populations like 'Mixed_nw_euro' 'mixed_slav' etc. Totally pointless, I removed it from my post above.

[Leto]

I don't understand the point of having nonsensical source populations like 'Mixed_nw_euro' 'mixed_slav' etc. Totally pointless, I removed it.
No, the NW Euro will remain. I talked to Lukasz and asked him to rebrand it to Mixed_NW_Euro (it was previously called Mixed_Germanic). We don't have enough good Western Euro samples (most people don't care about that calculator idolizing K13 instead) and the Mixed NW Euro reference is not that bad. There are plenty of white Americans, Canadians on Gedmatch, they are likely to get it as one of their top populations. One person, I recall, got it with a very small distance (<2.0).
Mixed_Slav is gone as it was indeed shitty.

[Kyp]

Dodecadk12b member edition:


Distance to: aynora(German)
2.35749867 frankhammer(british)
2.40008333 CreodaMum(English)
2.57447082 ryo(French+British)
2.64507089 TribalSky(English)
3.44306549 cpalsis(British+French+Ukrainian)
3.56809473 Dandelion(Flemish)
4.05974137 IceQueen(NWEuro)
4.27290299 Kyp_Mother(SouthGerman)
4.29780176 Inf99(American)
4.98634134 Albannach(Scottish_Irish)
5.00315900 Celestia(American)
5.03577204 Armatus(German)
5.10764133 firemonkey(English)
5.14588185 celticdragongod(Irish)
5.29510151 Grace_O'Malley(Irish)
5.31969924 cpal(British+French+Ukrainian)
5.32997186 Daco_Celtic_Mom(Irish)
5.56000000 Mr.G(Hungarian-American)
6.22327084 Creoda(Irish_English)
6.62837838 CreodaDad(Irish)
7.16441205 MagicalM(Hungarian)
7.16815178 Graham(Scottish)
7.44604593 Snkves(Swedish)
7.89624594 Jackson(English)
7.95997487 Egyvalaki(Hungarian)
8.75359355 Ayetooye(Serb_English)

Target: aynora(German)
Distance: 0.5858% / 0.58578534 | ADC: 0.25x
53.8 frankhammer(british)
23.2 CreodaMum(English)
12.8 Egyvalaki(Hungarian)
4.8 ksha(German)
4.0 Mr.G(Hungarian-American)
1.4 ryo(French+British)

[Jana]

No, the NW Euro will remain. I talked to Lukasz and asked him to rebrand it to Mixed_NW_Euro (it was previously called Mixed_Germanic). We don't have enough good Western Euro samples (most people don't care about that calculator idolizing K13 instead) and the Mixed NW Euro reference is not that bad. There are plenty of white Americans, Canadians on Gedmatch, they are likely to get it as one of their top populations. One person, I recall, got it with a very small distance (<2.0).
Mixed_Slav is gone as it was indeed shitty.

K12b is not that good. As you can see it can't really distinguish Germans from British. Components are too primitive lacking east-west specific drift unlike K13.
It's more suited for West Asians than Europeans.

[Luke35]

aynora = Red

Mr.G mom = Green


https://i.imgur.com/RrSn2Gc.png

[J. Ketch]

Your k36 similarity map:
Aynora's North Sea score is massive, I've barely seen anyone score that high (although it's possibly affected by the MH data, my LDNA North Sea score was 26.32, whereas the higher quality Ancestry score is 22.73).

[gixajo]

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You two are twin sisters?

I am not talking about your genetic results, but about your physical resemblance.:eek:

[Celestia]

You two are twin sisters?

I am not talking about your genetic results, but about your physical resemblance.:eek:

No lol. I don’t really see the resemblance everyone keeps saying

[Leto]

K12b is not that good. As you can see it can't really distinguish Germans from British. Components are too primitive lacking east-west specific drift unlike K13.
It's more suited for West Asians than Europeans.
Maybe but I also use it heavily for Russia/East Slavia. Pretty much the main run I use for us.

[aynora]

Your k36 similarity map:


50% West_German / 50% Swedish is pretty badass!

Dodecad oracle:

Target: aynora
Distance: 1.6394% / 1.63941322 | ADC: 0.5x
57.2 Mixed_NW_Euro
25.8 German
17.0 Bavarian_German

Target: aynora
Distance: 0.6862% / 0.68624516 | ADC: 0.25x
41.2 German
37.0 Mixed_NW_Euro
14.4 French2
6.6 Bavarian_German
0.8 Pulliyar




Target: Aynora(German)
Distance: 0.7019% / 0.70192643 | ADC: 0.25x
49.4 Dutch
25.6 Bavarian_German
23.4 German
0.8 French2
0.8 Pulliyar



Distance to: Aynora(German)
5.32294092 Dutch
5.85317862 German
7.82691510 English_Kent
7.82992337 CEU30
8.04205819 English
8.23837363 Bavarian_German
9.17440461 British_Isles
10.31820721 French2
10.52747358 Cornwall
10.63981673 British
10.72696136 Argyll
10.94015996 French
11.08096115 Orkney
11.24837322 Irish
11.29989823 Orcadian
11.50244322 Slovenian
13.15903872 Slovak
13.77140879 Hungarians
13.82055353 Norwegian
14.46161125 Sorb_Lusatia
14.84043126 Croat
15.28115506 Swedish
15.29095811 HUN_Szekely
15.92924983 PL_GreaterPoland
16.28357455 Bosnian



aynora = Red

Mr.G mom = Green


https://i.imgur.com/RrSn2Gc.png

Cool, thanks for the info and for helping me so much! :D That's quite interesting!

Mr G., I'm not that far from your mom then, nice!

[gixajo]

No lol. I don’t really see the resemblance everyone keeps saying

Aynora, in her avatar photo looks a lot like you, in my opinion.

[aynora]

You two are twin sisters?

I am not talking about your genetic results, but about your physical resemblance.:eek:

Some people have asked the same haha :p but I agree with Celestia. I don't really see the similarity.

[gixajo]

Some people have asked the same haha :p but I agree with Celestia. I don't really see the similarity.

I didn´t remember you, but when I see your avatar photo I thought Celestia has changed her nickname, till I saw your genetic results.

I am saying this seriously.:icon_yes:

[Celestia]

Aynora, in her avatar photo looks a lot like you, in my opinion.

No. Lol. I think our face shape is similar but that’s about it.

[gixajo]

No. Lol. I think our face shape is similar but that’s about it.

I think it´s more than this, but well, I use glasses for some reason.

[aynora]

Here is a map from MyHeritage that shows where in the world my closest DNA matches are.

https://i.ibb.co/prb6Vsj/10.jpg

[Tacitus]

If you're interested in finding your mtDNA haplogroup, you can use this site to upload your raw data to: https://dna.jameslick.com/mthap/

[gixajo]

If you're interested in finding your mtDNA haplogroup, you can use this site to upload your raw data to: https://dna.jameslick.com/mthap/

I am not very sure that she can try it with MH raw data...

[Tacitus]

I am not very sure that she can try it with MH raw data...

I think you're right, but I think there's a way to convert her raw data to the 23andme v3 version, which she can then upload to that site.

[aynora]

I am not very sure that she can try it with MH raw data...


I think you're right, but I think there's a way to convert her raw data to the 23andme v3 version, which she can then upload to that site.

I also think the page doesn't support MyHeritage. It says: ERROR: Family Finder data is not supported and doesn't contain mtDNA data. FTDNA mtDNA data can be downloaded in FASTA format in the "mtDNA" section on the "Print Certificate/Report/Data" page.

Found 0 markers at 0 positions covering 0.0% of mtDNA.

ERROR: Unable to read any markers from the uploaded file. Please make sure you are uploading the correct file and try again.

How can I convert it?

[Faklon]

Cool results, you said you are from North-West germany if I recall?


Your k36 similarity map:
https://i.ibb.co/bm4Nbrb/thrace.png



Don't want to spoil but I want to know under what population the circled scores are modelled.

Is it Greek-Thessaly, Greek-Macedonia and Balkan Turks/Pomaks?

[aynora]

Cool results, you said you are from North-West germany if I recall?

Yes, that's right! I'm from the northern part of Lower Saxony and the northern part of North Rhine Westphalia.

[Teutonski]

Congrats, my result would be similar without my prussian ancestry.

Kommst du aus der Nähe der Niederländischen Grenze oder Niedersachsen? Könntest eine Friesin sein.

[aynora]

Congrats, my result would be similar without my prussian ancestry.

Kommst du aus der Nähe der Niederländischen Grenze oder Niedersachsen? Könntest eine Friesin sein.

Danke!

Ja, meine Mutter kommt tatsächlich aus Ostfriesland :)

[Teutonski]

These results kill the Hummels haters, callin him non-German for having dark hair and shows how pointless taxonomy is.

Me and her come from the same region and are Germanic af, Hummels is like a neighbor of me and will score the same like us.

[Chris596]

Don't want to spoil but I want to know under what population the circled scores are modelled.

Is it Greek-Thessaly, Greek-Macedonia and Balkan Turks/Pomaks?

Could be both, my similarity right there in Northwest Turkey is 80% for example (red). More than what I get all over Greece for some reason. If I have to guess, it's probably a combination of Greek-Thessaly and Greek-Macedonia in Central-Greece and Greek-Macedonia/Pomak in Thracia. And Balkan Turks in Northwest Turkey. This is only my guess, based on my similarity scores.

My map:
102107

And congrats, really cool results! :)

[aynora]

I am not very sure that she can try it with MH raw data...


I think you're right, but I think there's a way to convert her raw data to the 23andme v3 version, which she can then upload to that site.

I just uploaded my raw data on mytrueancestry.com and got the following results :

https://i.ibb.co/YRYHKQC/12.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/VwwrHy5/13.jpg

[gixajo]

I also think the page doesn't support MyHeritage. It says: ERROR: Family Finder data is not supported and doesn't contain mtDNA data. FTDNA mtDNA data can be downloaded in FASTA format in the "mtDNA" section on the "Print Certificate/Report/Data" page.

Found 0 markers at 0 positions covering 0.0% of mtDNA.

ERROR: Unable to read any markers from the uploaded file. Please make sure you are uploading the correct file and try again.

How can I convert it?


I think you're right, but I think there's a way to convert her raw data to the 23andme v3 version, which she can then upload to that site.

I have never converted it, but as far as I know, even converting Mh raw data to a 23andMe raw data format, probably it will be not use, because MH raw data don´t include X chromosome dna information. At least that is what I think, I could be wrong.

[Leto]

These results kill the Hummels haters, callin him non-German for having dark hair and shows how pointless taxonomy is.

Me and her come from the same region and are Germanic af, Hummels is like a neighbor of me and will score the same like us.
It's 2020 and still a lot of TA users care about "taxonomy" instead of population genetics. IMO that bogus shit should be closed down. Yes, looking at people's faces is very interesting and important because we're not faceless bots but "classifications" belong in the dustbin for the most part.

[gixajo]

I just uploaded my raw data on mytrueancestry.com and got the following results :

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No, these are not your actual Ydna and Mtdna results, simply results for ancient samples that fit well with you.

[Teutonski]

It's 2020 and still a lot of TA users care about "taxonomy" instead of population genetics. IMO that bogus shit should be closed down. Yes, looking at people's faces is very interesting and important because we're not faceless bots but "classifications" belong in the dustbin for the most part.

Amen

Western Germans from Rheinland arent light/nordic looking people but score Germanic af, even I1 being very present here.

Never cared about taxonomy

[Defcon2]

It's 2020 and still a lot of TA users care about "taxonomy" instead of population genetics. IMO that bogus shit should be closed down. Yes, looking at people's faces is very interesting and important because we're not faceless bots but "classifications" belong in the dustbin for the most part.

Taxonomy is comparable to astrology, it is only for "fun" but it has no value whatsoever.

[Teutonski]

No, these are not your actual Ydna and Mtdna results, simply results for ancient samples that fit well with you.

How is she supposed to know her YDNA without a Y chromosome? Unless gender is a social construct ;)

[Chris596]

It's 2020 and still a lot of TA users care about "taxonomy" instead of population genetics. IMO that bogus shit should be closed down. Yes, looking at people's faces is very interesting and important because we're not faceless bots but "classifications" belong in the dustbin for the most part.

Man, I agree with you as hell! People should just do a DNA test, that's the easiest way to find out someone's real ancestry.

I remember, before my results many people thought I'm the Cuman warrior or something xD Turns out I'm just a Balkanigga :rotfl: (of course the East Asian is there but in a smaller amount)

[Leto]

Amen

Western Germans from Rheinland arent light/nordic looking people but score Germanic af, even I1 being very present here.

Never cared about taxonomy
Aren't light? What do you mean? The majority are definitely not like Mats Hummenls. Pretty sure brown hair and blue/green eyes are dominant in all parts of Germany (MiHiGrus excluded obviously).

[aynora]

No, these are not your actual Ydna and Mtdna results, simply results for ancient samples that fit well with you.

Ah ok, thanks for the help then! Too bad that I haven't found any page where I can get the ydna and mtdna information.

[gixajo]

How is she supposed to know her YDNA without a Y chromosome? Unless gender is a social construct ;)

I told her this because I was thinking in my own case, that I thought that the same results that gave me MTA were my actual Ydna and Mtdna results. I know that women don´t have Y chromosome, unless they have an strange mutation (XXY).

I am talking that I think he cannot know her mtdna with her MH raw data.

[Teutonski]

Aren't light? What do you mean? The majority are definitely not like Mats Hummenls. Pretty sure brown hair and blue/green eyes are dominant in all parts of Germany (MiHiGrus excluded obviously).

Its a mix, I am dark hazel eyed and dark blond
My brother blue eyed and brown haired
My dad brown eyed and dark brown haired

What I try to say, the pigmentation is diverse even in families

[Leto]

Man, I agree with you as hell! People should just do a DNA test, that's the easiest way to find out someone's real ancestry.

I remember, before my results many people thought I'm the Cuman warrior or something xD Turns out I'm just a Balkanigga :rotfl: (of course the East Asian is there but in a smaller amount)
Agreed. Your East Asian is tiny though, lower than the Russian average which is like 5%.
By the way, I consider people with similar background as mine reprobates if they spam the forum with taxonomy crap and never contact the great Leto for his opinion on genetics :cool:

[Jana]

West German average on K13/K15 should be updated. It's representative only for SW and central-west Germans and not NW Germans like NRW or Lower Saxony.
When it comes to Rhineland there is quite a difference between NRW and Rhineland-Pfalz, for example. They aren't particulary close.

[Leto]

Its a mix, I am dark hazel eyed and dark blond
My brother blue eyed and brown haired
My dad brown eyed and dark brown haired

What I try to say, the pigmentation is diverse even in families
Yeah, I agree. Types like Julia Klöckner should be common
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/982982217310892033/30nQkd6Q_400x400.jpg

[alnortedelsur]

I think taxonomy has some value, since a correlation with it and the person's heritage does exist

[Rocinante]

There is no possible way to get mtDNA with MyHeritage. Just saying, don't waste your time.

[Teutonski]

Yeah, I agree. Types like Julia Klöckner should be common
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/982982217310892033/30nQkd6Q_400x400.jpg

Depends on the region

[Leto]

I think taxonomy has some value, since a correlation with it and the person's heritage does exist
It may exist but when you come to the forum, state your background and ask people to "classify" you, many will automatically look for some traits they relate to your particular background.

- Hey guys, I'm from South America!
- Yeah, I can see the Amerindian!
- Some minor African is still noticeable in you.

[Harkonnen]

It's 2020 and still a lot of TA users care about "taxonomy" instead of population genetics. IMO that bogus shit should be closed down. Yes, looking at people's faces is very interesting and important because we're not faceless bots but "classifications" belong in the dustbin for the most part.

I find it very funny this is said by loonie idiot who doesn't understand how to interpret genetic results data and just uses it to spread vile propaganda.

[Leto]

Depends on the region
She is from Western Germany. But then again, with all the German migration to West Germany (from the late 1940 and to this day) I think it's not very stark anymore. Sudeten, Prussians, people from the GDR, etc.

[Harkonnen]

Taxonomy is comparable to astrology, it is only for "fun" but it has no value whatsoever.

Genetics is also astrology when its twisted to own purposes by scum like Leto.

[Kyp]

Yeah, I agree. Types like Julia Klöckner should be common


Yes the Mainzer Weinkönigin has a common face

she is from rather South-West Germany (Pfalz)

[Leto]

I find it very funny this is said by loonie idiot who doesn't understand how to interpret genetic results data and just uses it to spread vile propaganda.
Go screw yourself, your opinion is not needed. Have never understood your hatred against me as if I attacked you or said something mean. I guess you are just a mentally unstable psychopath. And of course your Finnish Russophobia comes into play too (even though you don't even know my political views).

[Teutonski]

She is from Western Germany. But then again, with all the German migration to West Germany (from the late 1940 and to this day) I think it's not very stark anymore. Sudeten, Prussians, people from the GDR, etc.

Again, I have dark family members and aynora is also darker, yet 100% native to the region, so will be Hummels.

[Leto]

Again, I have dark family members and aynora is also darker, yet 100% native to the region, so will be Hummels.
Sure, he is most likely native.

[Rocinante]

This is how i imagine Teuton El Aleman meeting my latino paisa friends


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMKqkT8IBMk

[Teutonski]

This is how i imagine Teuton El Aleman meeting my latino paisa friends


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMKqkT8IBMk

Carlos Lehder is my spirit narco


https://youtu.be/016IFb_Xhdo

[alnortedelsur]

It may exist but when you come to the forum, state your background and ask people to "classify" you, many will automatically look for some traits they relate to your particular background.

- Hey guys, I'm from South America!
- Yeah, I can see the Amerindian!
- Some minor African is still noticeable in you.

When that happens, is because they use taxonomy in a wrong/biased way, but that doesn't necessary invalidate taxonomy as science.

[Rocinante]

Carlos Lehder is my spirit narco


https://youtu.be/016IFb_Xhdo

https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-z6gJCpi125g/VX7HeBmmmHI/AAAAAAAAAIY/24yfJl61_mQ/s1600/carlos%2By%2Bpablo.jpg

Right to Left: Me, You, Epirus DNA and some guy about to be killed by me after this picture has taken. You are laughing at Epirus DNA because of his anatolian mustache and he is mad at everyone.

[Leto]

When that happens, is because they use taxonomy in a wrong/biased way, but that doesn't necessary invalidate taxonomy as science.
Well, we can agree to disagree. Even if it has some value, I just don't think it's as important as DNA testing. And by the way, it's not like I'm a super serious geneticist or anything like that, one or two services is usually enough for me and I'm not into some of the very high-brow stuff people on Anthrogenica discuss for ex.

[alnortedelsur]

Well, we can agree to disagree. Even if it has some value, I just don't think it's as important as DNA testing. And by the way, it's not like I'm a super serious geneticist or anything like that, one or two services is usually enough for me and I'm not into some of the very high-brow stuff people on Anthrogenica discuss for ex.

I agree that DNA testing has more scientific value than taxonomy.

I just mean that is not like taxonomy is a complete trash with zero value.

If that was the case, there wouldn't be Russians, Germans, British, Italians and Spaniards with very Russian, German, British, Italian, and Spanish faces respectively, just to name some few examples.

[Jana]

Phenotypes in masses correlate with population genetics very well. Individuals not necessarily.

[Harkonnen]

Well, we can agree to disagree. Even if it has some value, I just don't think it's as important as DNA testing. And by the way, it's not like I'm a super serious geneticist or anything like that, one or two services is usually enough for me and I'm not into some of the very high-brow stuff people on Anthrogenica discuss for ex.

You essentially admit you are astrologist. hark kark

[Defcon2]

I agree that DNA testing has more scientific value than taxonomy.

I just mean that is not like taxonomy is a complete trash with zero value. If that was the case, there wouldn't be Russians, Germans, British, Italians and Spaniards with very Russian, German, British, Italian, and Spanish faces respectively, to name some few examples.

You're basing the phenotype on current political boundaries and that doesn't make sense. There are Russians with a Ukrainian appearance and Italians with a Spanish appearance, there are no exclusive phenotypes by country and honestly there are not so many as to differentiate them.

[Leto]

You essentially admit you are astrologist. hark kark
Can you refrain from quoting me? If I dislike somebody, I would normally ignore that person, especially if they don't address me personally.

This is another member's thread and your dislike for me is irrelevant to the rest.

[Leto]

I agree that DNA testing has more scientific value than taxonomy.

I just mean that is not like taxonomy is a complete trash with zero value.

If that was the case, there wouldn't be Russians, Germans, British, Italians and Spaniards with very Russian, German, British, Italian, and Spanish faces respectively, just to name some few examples.
That's true. What I personally distrust is the use of all that terminology.

[Scandal]

It's 2020 and still a lot of TA users care about "taxonomy" instead of population genetics. IMO that bogus shit should be closed down. Yes, looking at people's faces is very interesting and important because we're not faceless bots but "classifications" belong in the dustbin for the most part.

A libtard is gonna tell you dna tests are pointless because 'we are all the same' and because 'dna tests cannot determine ethnicity'. I debated a guy like that couple of months ago on facebook. He linked a video of a cuban who thought he was going to score 100% cuban on the dna test, then he turned out to be mulatto with only 0.5% native cuban.

[Grace O'Malley]

Great results Aynora. Typically North German. DNA tests are very consistent and accurate for people with long term ancestry in certain populations. It just shows how some people sprout a lot of nonsense about people's looks. If you have long term ancestry in a country you will be the same as your fellow countrymen and cluster with them.

Thanks for posting your results.

[Grace O'Malley]

She is also not very Celtic, but very heavily Germanic, significantly closer to north German/north Dutch than to south Germans.

I'm not sure whether Gedmatch can decipher Celtic vs Germanic it seems to be more based on geography in that you cluster with neighbouring populations. My K13 and K15 seem to indicate this.

This is my K13 for example. There is not really a Celtic vs Germanic divide noticeable but more to do with being closer to neighbouring populations.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 51.79
2 Baltic 25.50
3 West_Med 10.04
4 West_Asian 7.39
5 East_Med 1.64
6 Red_Sea 1.40
7 Amerindian 1.14


Finished reading population data. 204 populations found.
13 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 North_Dutch @ 3.154021
2 Irish @ 3.345129
3 Norwegian @ 3.812990
4 West_Scottish @ 4.097712
5 Danish @ 4.117771
6 Orcadian @ 4.137623
7 North_German @ 5.934482
8 Southeast_English @ 6.821009
9 Southwest_English @ 6.871243
10 Swedish @ 7.048795
11 South_Dutch @ 11.471940
12 West_German @ 12.510398
13 North_Swedish @ 14.226061
14 Austrian @ 17.256870
15 East_German @ 17.369667
16 French @ 17.988453
17 Hungarian @ 22.274704
18 Southwest_Finnish @ 23.591816
19 Spanish_Cataluna @ 26.240318
20 Southwest_French @ 27.212023

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Irish +50% Norwegian @ 2.313866


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Irish +25% Norwegian +25% Norwegian @ 2.313866


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++
1 Irish + Irish + Norwegian + Norwegian @ 2.313866
2 Irish + Norwegian + Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 2.350944
3 Irish + Irish + North_Dutch + Norwegian @ 2.361537
4 Irish + North_Dutch + Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 2.420816
5 Irish + North_German + Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 2.458922
6 North_German + Norwegian + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.463301
7 Norwegian + Norwegian + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.464289
8 Danish + Irish + Irish + Norwegian @ 2.502304
9 Irish + Irish + North_German + Norwegian @ 2.505573
10 Irish + Irish + Irish + Norwegian @ 2.526197
11 North_Dutch + Norwegian + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.532473
12 Irish + Irish + Irish + Swedish @ 2.536980
13 Danish + Irish + Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 2.551383
14 Irish + North_Dutch + North_Dutch + Norwegian @ 2.551536
15 North_Dutch + North_Dutch + Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 2.555050
16 Irish + Irish + Swedish + West_Scottish @ 2.571008
17 North_Dutch + Norwegian + Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 2.577441
18 Irish + North_Dutch + Norwegian + Norwegian @ 2.593716
19 Irish + North_Dutch + Swedish + West_Scottish @ 2.626417
20 Irish + Norwegian + Norwegian + Orcadian @ 2.632035

[Jana]

Grace, when I said she isn't very Celtic I meant Hallstatt-La Tene like continental Celtic which is huge in south Germans while North Germans are much more Germanic. Aynora is closer to latter than former. It's questionable how much Celtic Irish really are.

[Grace O'Malley]

Grace, when I said she isn't very Celtic I meant Hallstatt-La Tene like continental Celtic which is huge in south Germans while North Germans are much more Germanic. Aynora is closer to latter than former. It's questionable how much Celtic Irish really are.

Thanks for clarifying. Yes I don't think Irish are very much Hallstatt-La Tene.

[HelloGuys]

Felicidades amiga!! Now the people here have to believe you that you're german even if they don't want to!!

[**JC**]

Welcome to the dark European phenotype club! :)

[Mortimer]

Congratulations

[Hawkguy]

Nice results! I'm trying to convince my friend to do the test. Her father is German from Friedrichshafen and the mother from the northeast of Brazil. And her mother's city was invaded by the Dutch in the past. I always see Brazilians from this region with a remarkable percentage of Scandinavian.

[Leto]

A libtard is gonna tell you dna tests are pointless because 'we are all the same' and because 'dna tests cannot determine ethnicity'. I debated a guy like that couple of months ago on facebook. He linked a video of a cuban who thought he was going to score 100% cuban on the dna test, then he turned out to be mulatto with only 0.5% native cuban.
Well, yes, some people will be defending their world view no matter what. I know some would say if you don't score 100% your presumed ethnicity, you cannot be a nationalist which is ridiculouss. And what if one does score? They still won't accept his/her opinion as legitimate.

[aynora]

I uploaded my Dna on Living Dna and it seems to be more accurate. Almost 90 % Northwest Germanic, not bad!

https://i.ibb.co/xDRcCTm/Screenshot-20200912-235022.jpg

[Pertoto]

Very nice 👍

[Pertoto]

I uploaded my Dna on Living Dna and it seems to be more accurate. Almost 90 % Northwest Germanic, not bad!

https://i.ibb.co/xDRcCTm/Screenshot-20200912-235022.jpg

Looks much more accurate.

[yowasgeht]

Coole Resulate! Der nächste Schritt wäre eventuell G25 oder Promethease.

[dududud]

Welcome to the dark European phenotype club! :)

"Dark" only for the ignorant

There is nothing "dark" about her features and her pigmentation.

She goes to France and she will find lots of native people who look like her, without being told that she is "dark".

It's only on Apricity that people see "dark" everywhere, even when they objectively don't.

[yowasgeht]

[QUOTE=Teutone;6888236]These results kill the Hummels haters, callin him non-German for having dark hair and shows how pointless taxonomy is.

Die Taxonomy-Sektion ist schon derbe peinlich.

[Teutonski]

[QUOTE=Teutone;6888236]These results kill the Hummels haters, callin him non-German for having dark hair and shows how pointless taxonomy is.

Die Taxonomy-Sektion ist schon derbe peinlich.

Hab noch NIE einen in Deutschland gesehen, der bezweifelte, dass Hummels deutscher ist. Kompletter Autismus, ganzen Tag irgendwelche random Leute zu klassifizieren, was hat man davon?

[yowasgeht]

[QUOTE=yowasgeht;6889806]

Hab noch NIE einen in Deutschland gesehen, der bezweifelte, dass Hummels deutscher ist. Kompletter Autismus, ganzen Tag irgendwelche random Leute zu klassifizieren, was hat man davon?

Ne da hat man normalerweise größere Probleme. Wenn ich mich recht entsinne sieht Hummels seinem Vater(vorallem in seinen jüngeren Jahren) sowieso recht ähnlich. Und der ist hier schon vor den ganzen Migrationswellen geboren...

[aynora]

[QUOTE=Teutone;6889816]

Ne da hat man normalerweise größere Probleme. Wenn ich mich recht entsinne sieht Hummels seinem Vater(vorallem in seinen jüngeren Jahren) sowieso recht ähnlich. Und der ist schon vor den ganzen Migrationswellen geboren...

Oh ja, das ist wahr. In rl denkt kaum jemand dass ich oder jemand mit meinem Typ Ausländer ist. Sowas passiert nur in diesem Forum, weil viele einfach Stereotypen im Kopf haben und wenn man diese nicht erfüllt wird man sofort als atypisch bezeichnet.

[Teutonski]

Oh ja, das ist wahr. In rl denkt kaum jemand dass ich oder jemand mit meinem Typ Ausländer ist. Sowas passiert nur in diesem Forum, weil viele einfach Stereotypen im Kopf haben und wenn man diese nicht erfüllt wird man sofort als atypisch bezeichnet.

Scheiß der Hund drauf, gib hier wirklich nicht zuviel Preis, glaub mir, dass ist ein Umfeld in dem es besser ist wenn deine Daten und auch Bilder nicht in Verbindung gebracht werden können. Alles mit sehr großer Vorsicht zu genießen hier, musste schon einiges löschen lassen, nachdem ich mir über ein Paar Gestalten hier ein besseres Bild machen konnte. Du kannst machen was du willst, war nur ein gut gemeinter Rat.

[Leto]

Scheiß der Hund drauf, gib hier wirklich nicht zuviel Preis, glaub mir, dass ist ein Umfeld in dem es besser ist wenn deine Daten und auch Bilder nicht in Verbindung gebracht werden können. Alles mit sehr großer Vorsicht zu genießen hier, musste schon einiges löschen lassen, nachdem ich mir über ein Paar Gestalten hier ein besseres Bild machen konnte. Du kannst machen was du willst, war nur ein gut gemeinter Rat.
Purging your Gedmatch results from the forum wasn't really necessary. I once tried to find them and was unsuccessful. I don't care about your real name or where you live and things like that.

[Teutonski]

Purging your Gedmatch results from the forum wasn't really necessary. I once tried to find them and was unsuccessful. I don't care about your real name or where you live and things like that.

Peterski is a guy I dont want to have any information about me since he used even banal data for propaganda and god knows what sites he publishes things on. I am rather careful and too cautious, especially coming from Germany with the craziest cancel culture and having a Job and loans too pay off for my house and car. I dont even know my gedmatch log in data, otherwise id pn them to you.

[Leto]

Peterski is a guy I dont want to have any information about me since he used even banal data for propaganda and god knows what sites he publishes things on. I am rather careful and too cautious, especially coming from Germany with the craziest cancel culture and having a Job and loans too pay off for my house and car. I dont even know my gedmatch log in data, otherwise id pn them to you.
Yet he refused to show me his photo when I asked him about it. I can always show my photo privately to members of good character.

[Teutonski]

Yet he refused to show me his photo when I asked him about it. I can always show my photo privately to members of good character.

Its up to him, but its crazy he is asking multiple users for personal information of any kind, something a normal guy would never do.

[yowasgeht]

[QUOTE=yowasgeht;6889834]

Oh ja, das ist wahr. In rl denkt kaum jemand dass ich oder jemand mit meinem Typ Ausländer ist. Sowas passiert nur in diesem Forum, weil viele einfach Stereotypen im Kopf haben und wenn man diese nicht erfüllt wird man sofort als atypisch bezeichnet.

Jup, diese Forum-Klassifkationen sind sowieso kompletter Bullshit. Aber schon cool wie genau K13 in deinem Fall war. Promethease fand ich aber auch ziemlich interessant.

[yowasgeht]

nvm

[Blondie]

Its up to him, but its crazy he is asking multiple users for personal information of any kind, something a normal guy would never do.

He is a lunatic psychopath, i've never seen such fanatic hate what Peterski do against germans.

[**JC**]

"Dark" only for the ignorant

There is nothing "dark" about her features and her pigmentation.

She goes to France and she will find lots of native people who look like her, without being told that she is "dark".

It's only on Apricity that people see "dark" everywhere, even when they objectively don't.

I wouldn't say my comment is borne out of ignorance.
For example my brother is blond, fair skinned and blue eyed, my father was born blond and darkened as he grew older, my mother is very fair skinned and had light brown hair.
I was berry brown straight out of the womb but have lightened as I grown older.
It's just a phenotype that Aynora happens to have, she's German through and though as I'm Northern Celtc/Germanic through and through hence the club quote.

[Mortimer]

You are zero slavic or eastern european or balkan. Very NW German results. Congrats. Your look deceived me I apologise. To me you looked "ashkenazi jewish" or "serbian". I apologise.

[Defcon2]

Oh ja, das ist wahr. In rl denkt kaum jemand dass ich oder jemand mit meinem Typ Ausländer ist. Sowas passiert nur in diesem Forum, weil viele einfach Stereotypen im Kopf haben und wenn man diese nicht erfüllt wird man sofort als atypisch bezeichnet.

Do you know G25?

[Leto]

Do you know G25?
It's not neessary for all people. You Spanish of this forum are obsessed with it as if you didn't know your ancestry yet. Davidski himself stopped updating the modern spreadsheet and you don't want to confuse the girl with ancient stuff, do you?

[Samnium]

"Dark" only for the ignorant

There is nothing "dark" about her features and her pigmentation.

She goes to France and she will find lots of native people who look like her, without being told that she is "dark".

It's only on Apricity that people see "dark" everywhere, even when they objectively don't.

True dark people are like those who have olive/brown skin, very dark hair and eyes...

She’s brown haired, green eyed and she has a fair skin. If that it’s dark then 60% of Europe is dark, which arguably is not.

[Leto]

True dark people are like those who have olive/brown skin, very dark hair and eyes...

She’s brown haired, green eyed and she has a fair skin. If that it’s dark then 60% of Europe is dark, which arguably is not.
To some people true Germans are still associated with this type of looks :D

https://i.ibb.co/XpPbsVb/deutsche-Haltung.jpg
It says "the German posture, the German achievement prove Nordic racial heritage"

[Defcon2]

It's not neessary for all people. You Spanish of this forum are obsessed with it as if you didn't know your ancestry yet. Davidski himself stopped updating the modern spreadsheet and you don't want to confuse the girl with ancient stuff, do you?

The old and "confusing" things is what makes this type of tests attractive, for those of us who are not adopted people brought from Eastern Europe in a furtive way and know our relatives and their origins, it is more interesting to try to know the oldest possible ancestry.

It is useless for me if a test tells me that I am modern Spanish, I prefer to inquire back in time and try to capture the distant ancestry. So far the best tool for this is G25.

[Jana]

G25 would be a waste of money for Aynora.

[Samnium]

To some people true Germans are still associated with this type of looks :D

https://i.ibb.co/XpPbsVb/deutsche-Haltung.jpg
It says "the German posture, the German achievement prove Nordic racial heritage"


This look is indeed very germanic, but there’s a phenotypical range within Germany, it looks a lot like French phenotypical variety but much more shifted towards North and East (of course).

[Leto]

The old and "confusing" things is what makes this type of tests attractive, for those of us who are not adopted people brought from Eastern Europe in a furtive way and know our relatives and their origins, it is more interesting to try to know the oldest possible ancestry.

It is useless for me if a test tells me that I am modern Spanish, I prefer to inquire back in time and try to capture the distant ancestry. So far the best tool for this is G25.
Well, for most people it's enough to learn how pure they are ethnically speaking or how much black or white blood they have and things like that. I for one don't need to look for yet another G25 model to learn what I am. I already know my racial and ethnic background, what my prinicipal components are, how much East Eurasian I score, etc. There will be no revelation for me.

[Jana]

Well, for most people it's enough to learn how pure they are ethnically speaking or how much black or white blood they have and things like that. I for one don't need to look for yet another G25 model to learn what I am. I already know my racial and ethnic background, what my prinicipal components are, how much East Eurasian I score, etc. There will be no revelation for me.

Plus there are ancient samples available for free on Vahaduo. No need for G25, why pay for that when it's absolutely unnecessary.

[aynora]

True dark people are like those who have olive/brown skin, very dark hair and eyes...

She’s brown haired, green eyed and she has a fair skin. If that it’s dark then 60% of Europe is dark, which arguably is not.

I absolutely agree with you.

[aynora]

Do you know G25?

Nope.

[Teutonski]

Aynora, wenn du nochmal genauere Ergebnisse haben willst, sowohl auch mtDNA, führt kein Weg an 23andme vorbei.

Hatte auch zunächst erst nur MyHeritage gehabt, wobei MyHeritage für uns auch relativ akkurat ist, bietet dir 23andme mehr.

Hier ein Vergleich, zwischen meinen Ergebnissen:

https://i.imgur.com/yiuvwWF.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/DOlwepN.jpg

[Defcon2]

Well, for most people it's enough to learn how pure they are ethnically speaking or how much black or white blood they have and things like that. I for one don't need to look for yet another G25 model to learn what I am. I already know my racial and ethnic background, what my prinicipal components are, how much East Eurasian I score, etc. There will be no revelation for me.

I just want to inform her that there are tools available to use her RAW file, nothing more.

[aynora]

Aynora, wenn du nochmal genauere Ergebnisse haben willst, sowohl auch mtDNA, führt kein Weg an 23andme vorbei.

Hatte auch zunächst erst nur MyHeritage gehabt, wobei MyHeritage für uns auch relativ akkurat ist, bietet dir 23andme mehr.

Hier ein Vergleich, zwischen meinen Ergebnissen:

https://i.imgur.com/yiuvwWF.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/DOlwepN.jpg

Okay danke! Habe mir letzte Woche übrigens auch ein AncestryDNA Kit gekauft weil ich gehört habe dass das auch ganz gut sein soll und auch genauer. Habs letzte Woche Freitag weggeschickt, ist aber noch nicht in Irland angekommen. Mal abwarten. Kriegt man da eventuell auch Ergebnisse zur mtDNA?

[Teutonski]

Okay danke! Habe mir letzte Woche übrigens auch ein AncestryDNA Kit gekauft weil ich gehört habe dass das auch ganz gut sein soll und auch genauer. Habs letzte Woche Freitag weggeschickt, ist aber noch nicht in Irland angekommen. Mal abwarten. Kriegt man da eventuell auch Ergebnisse zur mtDNA?

Yowasgeht hat da seinen DNA Test gemacht, der wird da am besten bescheid wissen :)

[Defcon2]

Nope.

It is a tool specialized in detecting ancient ancestry, you can compare yourself with other people and regions as long as you have the coordinates. Here is information provided by its creator:

https://bga101.blogspot.com/2018/02/modeling-genetic-ancestry-with-davidski.html

Information about the price and how to obtain them, you can tell someone if you have questions:

https://bga101.blogspot.com/2017/10/genetic-ancestry-online-store-to-be.html

Here a thread that I create where some members publish our coordinates:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?328135-G25-Modeling-ancestry-with-TA-members

[Leto]

Aynora, wenn du nochmal genauere Ergebnisse haben willst, sowohl auch mtDNA, führt kein Weg an 23andme vorbei.

Hatte auch zunächst erst nur MyHeritage gehabt, wobei MyHeritage für uns auch relativ akkurat ist, bietet dir 23andme mehr.

Hier ein Vergleich, zwischen meinen Ergebnissen:

Was Gedmatch bad enough for you? You don't seem to care much about it. If you ever get to it again or maybe Admixture Studio, please let me know, I'd like to save some of your results.

[Teutonski]

Was Gedmatch bad enough for you? You don't seem to care much about it. If you ever get to it again or maybe Admixture Studio, please let me know, I'd like to save some of your results.

I did all gedmatch calculators, but once I had the results of all of them I lost interest. Gedmatch is very interesting initially.

[aynora]

Yowasgeht hat da seinen DNA Test gemacht, der wird da am besten bescheid wissen :)

Ok danke!


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Yowasgeht, wie ist deine Erfahrung mit AncestryDNA? Hab mir ein Kit bestellt und meine Probe letzten Freitag verschickt. Und wie ist es im Vergleich zu 23andme? Welche Ergebnisse fandest du genauer/realistischer?

[Kyp]

@aynora: Hier zum Vergleich die Myheritage Resultate meiner Mutter (aus Franken, Süd-Deutschland):


Scandinavian
33,0%
English
17,4%
North and West European
14,8%


East European
17,9%
Balkan
15,0%

Iberian
1,9%

=
North/West Europe: 65.2
East-Europe: 32.9%
South Europe: 1.9%

[yowasgeht]

Yowasgeht, wie ist deine Erfahrung mit AncestryDNA? Hab mir ein Kit bestellt und meine Probe letzten Freitag verschickt. Und wie ist es im Vergleich zu 23andme? Welche Ergebnisse fandest du genauer/realistischer?

Lief damals alles relativ zügig ab. Die Ergebnisse fand ich auf beiden Seiten gut und die Unterschiede minimal. 23andme hat halt noch anderen Schnick-Schack wie Traits, Haplogruppen etc. Aber beide aufjedenfall besser als Myheritage.

[aynora]

@aynora: Hier zum Vergleich die Myheritage Resultate meiner Mutter (aus Franken, Süd-Deutschland):


Scandinavian
33,0%
English
17,4%
North and West European
14,8%


East European
17,9%
Balkan
15,0%

Iberian
1,9%

=
North/West Europe: 65.2
East-Europe: 32.9%
South Europe: 1.9%

Interessant, deine Mutter hat so einiges mehr an Regionen als ich :)


Lief damals alles relativ zügig ab. Die Ergebnisse fand ich auf beiden Seiten gut und die Unterschiede minimal. 23andme hat halt noch anderen Schnick-Schack wie Traits, Haplogruppen etc. Aber beide aufjedenfall besser als Myheritage.

Ok, danke! :) Wie lange hat es ca. gedauert bis die Probe im Labor angekommen ist? Und wie lange musstest du generell auf deine Ergebnisse warten?

[Teutonski]

Lief damals alles relativ zügig ab. Die Ergebnisse fand ich auf beiden Seiten gut und die Unterschiede minimal. 23andme hat halt noch anderen Schnick-Schack wie Traits, Haplogruppen etc. Aber beide aufjedenfall besser als Myheritage.

Wie keine Haplogruppen? Wird sie ihre mtDNA da auch nicht erfahren?

[yowasgeht]

Interessant, deine Mutter hat so einiges mehr an Regionen als ich :)



Ok, danke! :) Wie lange hat es ca. gedauert bis die Probe im Labor angekommen ist? Und wie lange musstest du generell auf deine Ergebnisse warten?

Die Probe ist nach 10 Tagen im Labor angekommen (befindet sich auch glaube ich in Irland). Dann hats nochmal 3 Wochen gedauert bis die Ergebnisse da waren.


Wie keine Haplogruppen? Wird sie ihre mtDNA da auch nicht erfahren?

Ne bei Ancestry kriegt man keine Haplogruppen.

[Teutonski]

Ne bei Ancestry kriegt man keine Haplogruppen.

RIP

[aynora]

Die Probe ist nach 10 Tagen im Labor angekommen (befindet sich auch glaube ich in Irland). Dann hats nochmal 3 Wochen gedauert bis die Ergebnisse da waren.



Ne bei Ancestry kriegt man keine Haplogruppen.

Cool, danke dann für die Info. Bin gespannt auf die Ergebnisse!


RIP

Hab ein Video gefunden mit dem es eventuell möglich ist durch AncestryDNA die Haplogruppe rauszubekommen : https://youtu.be/M62OKmAI3Ts

[Ritz06]

https://i.imgur.com/7FRGXOn.png?1

Population
North_Atlantic 28.18 Pct
Baltic 15.15 Pct
West_Med 9.58 Pct
West_Asian 22.87 Pct
East_Med 13.87 Pct
Red_Sea 1.97 Pct
South_Asian 3.35 Pct
East_Asian 3.42 Pct
Siberian 1.01 Pct
Amerindian 0.53 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.07 Pct

[Ritz06]

https://i.imgur.com/7FRGXOn.png?1

Population
North_Atlantic 28.18 Pct
Baltic 15.15 Pct
West_Med 9.58 Pct
West_Asian 22.87 Pct
East_Med 13.87 Pct
Red_Sea 1.97 Pct
South_Asian 3.35 Pct
East_Asian 3.42 Pct
Siberian 1.01 Pct
Amerindian 0.53 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.07 Pct

[Pulkher]

This is the Eurogenes K13 average of some Bavarian Germanics (440 - 520 AD). You seem to be one of the closest forum users to this average.

North_Atlantic 48.16
Baltic 28.32
West_Med 10.19
West_Asian 5.29
East_Med 2.64
Red_Sea 1.46
South_Asian 1.11
East_Asian 0.48
Siberian 0.47
Amerindian 0.73
Oceanian 0.41
Northeast_African 0.36
Sub-Saharan 0.38

Distance to: Bavarian Germanics (440 - 520 AD)
1.84694342 Danish
2.76400072 Denmark
2.93005119 Sweden_Götaland
2.95013559 North_German
3.11098055 Norway_South_Central
3.16565949 Danish
3.28153927 Swedish
3.34257386 North_Dutch
3.41900570 Sweden_Svealand_West
3.42106708 Swedish
3.44213596 Norwegian
3.82013089 North-Dutch

Distance to: Bavarian Germanics (440 - 520 AD)
3.84883099 Token(German)
4.40607535 celticdragongod(irish-american)
4.56620192 aynora(German)
4.63016198 Graham's_Mum(scottish)
4.77248363 Dandelion(Flemish)

[Figaro]

Interesting- your ancestry is heavily northern German, right? Sure looks it here, haha.

[aynora]

Interesting- your ancestry is heavily northern German, right? Sure looks it here, haha.

Yes.

[Leto]

This is the Eurogenes K13 average of some Bavarian Germanics (440 - 520 AD). You seem to be one of the closest forum users to this average.

North_Atlantic 48.16
Baltic 28.32
West_Med 10.19
West_Asian 5.29
East_Med 2.64
Red_Sea 1.46
South_Asian 1.11
East_Asian 0.48
Siberian 0.47
Amerindian 0.73
Oceanian 0.41
Northeast_African 0.36
Sub-Saharan 0.38

Distance to: Bavarian Germanics (440 - 520 AD)
1.84694342 Danish
2.76400072 Denmark
2.93005119 Sweden_Götaland
2.95013559 North_German
3.11098055 Norway_South_Central
3.16565949 Danish
3.28153927 Swedish
3.34257386 North_Dutch
3.41900570 Sweden_Svealand_West
3.42106708 Swedish
3.44213596 Norwegian
3.82013089 North-Dutch

Distance to: Bavarian Germanics (440 - 520 AD)
3.84883099 Token(German)
4.40607535 celticdragongod(irish-american)
4.56620192 aynora(German)
4.63016198 Graham's_Mum(scottish)
4.77248363 Dandelion(Flemish)
Log in, Harald fucking Meller! :D

[Dark Snyper Lord 666]

I got my results today and wanted to share them with you:

https://i.ibb.co/QjhMdqx/4.jpg

and the Eurogenes Gedmatch results:

https://i.ibb.co/R3d7Xwn/1.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/pn15DMg/2.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/MGcn5cY/3.jpg

LOL. this is too funny. epically owned. The End.

[Dark Snyper Lord 666]

Congrats.

Now that one dude can be quiet about you not being German

https://image.shutterstock.com/image-vector/guardian-castle-260nw-81805549.jpg

[Tauromachos]

You two are twin sisters?

I am not talking about your genetic results, but about your physical resemblance.:eek:

Not realy but something about them is similar so your are not entirely wrong