Classify/pass Serbs from Nevesinje

[Varda]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nevesinje

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[WeirdLookingFellow]

E L O N G A T E D Romanians.

Too many Dinarids for Moldova maybe but the only real difference is height.

[Jana]

Dinarid, Pontid, Borreby, Neo-Danubian, Gorid influences.

[Varda]

On the last census in 2013 there was 99.28% Serbs in Nevesinje https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nevesinje#Demographics

[Varda]

https://youtu.be/RhCJJiwQtrs

[Varda]

Traditional Dinaric singing from Nevesinje.


https://youtu.be/x2p-VZnS17Q

[Varda]

E L O N G A T E D Romanians.

Too many Dinarids for Moldova maybe but the only real difference is height.

Guy around 5:18/5:20 is very tall https://youtu.be/YvwKlkw5pQY?t=318

That guy and girls next to him are from Nevesinje, they are guests on Serbian television in Belgrade.

[Hungarian_master]

Main types: Dinarid, Borreby, Gorid, Pontid, Norid and Baltid.

Best fit (outside Serbia): Bosnia and Montenegro.
Also, almost all of them would fit as Hungarian, but as group they have more Dinarid.

[Varda]

Main types:Dinarid, Borreby, Gorid, Pontid, Norid and Baltid.

Best fit (outside Serbia): Bosnia and Montenegro.
Also, almost all of them would fit as Hungarian, but as group they have more Dinarid.

They are more Dinarid shifted then Serbs on average.
Few generations ago there was more Dinarids among Serbs than today, regardless of the region.

[Vožd]

Serbia and Montenegro.

[Varda]

Serbia and Montenegro.

In which part of Serbia the fit the best?

[Vožd]

In which part of Serbia the fit the best?

Western

[Immanenz]

https://trebinjelive.info/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/jovana-snijezna-blokada-selo-lakat-nevesinje.jpg


this woman looks kinda British.

[Terminator98]

Dinarid, Norid, Borreby/CM with few Pontids and Gorids.
Of course, most of them are mixes of two or more aforementioned types.

Their best fit - B&H, W. Serbia, Montenegro, S. Croatia.

[Varda]

this woman looks kinda British.

She is from this village https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lakat

After 0:50


https://youtu.be/MAOrW7H_l7Y

[Varda]

Candidates for miss of East Herzegovina in 2017 from Nevesinje.

Kristina Karišik (she won)
https://www.hercegovinapromo.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/011-KRISTINA-KARISIK-696x392.jpg


Marija Kufner
https://www.hercegovinapromo.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/018-MARIJA-KUFNER.jpg

[Pertoto]

To me they looks Balkan/eastern europeans

[Roy]

Dinaric, Pontid, Pre-Slavic and Neo-Danubian are mostly here. Some very exotic types for Poland, like this boy from the video at 2:05 mark - there are some Dinaro-Pontic types in Poland but not with those big, rounded neolithic farmer eyes. :D People carrying such phenotypes rather did not come with Early Slavs, lol. They are noticeably more southern-shifted looking than Croats.

[Terminator98]

Dinaric, Pontid, Pre-Slavic and Neo-Danubian are mostly here. Some very exotic types for Poland, like this boy from the video at 2:05 mark - there are some Dinaro-Pontic types in Poland but not with those big, rounded neolithic farmer eyes. :D People carrying such phenotypes rather did not come with Early Slavs, lol. They are noticeably more southern-shifted looking than Croats.

Ironically, Bosnian Serbs have highest percentage of early Slavic genetics out of all Serbs, on average.
Also, Bosnian Croats and those from South Croatia (I've seen some Croats from coastal part of Dalmatia who could be classified as Gracile Med or GM admixed) are not much different than these people, from my experience. BTW, can I send you my pics, I'm interested in your opinion. :D

[Varda]

Dinaric, Pontid, Pre-Slavic and Neo-Danubian are mostly here. Some very exotic types for Poland, like this boy from the video at 2:05 mark - there are some Dinaro-Pontic types in Poland but not with those big, rounded neolithic farmer eyes. :D People carrying such phenotypes rather did not come with Early Slavs, lol. They are noticeably more southern-shifted looking than Croats.

In a public base of Serbian dna project there is 16 tested people on y dna from Nevesinje municipality, 7 of them are I2a-Din (mostly PH908).

[Varda]

Bosniensis/Sinan will like this. In one video about "Bosniaks" of Nevesinje they said Nevesinje area had one the highest rate of islamization in whole Bosnia and Herzegovina in early period of Ottoman rule. I don't know is it true, could be. They didn't say that in Nevesinje area only Serbs were islamized, only Serbs live there before Ottomans. But I understand them, they suffer from a heavy identity crisis. :)
Regardless on islamization, Muslims were always minority in Nevesinje area towards the Orthodox Serbs (before war Muslims in town were 15-16%, and in municipality about 23%).

[Renekton]

Gorids, Dinarids and Pontids

[Varda]

bump

[Roy]

Ironically, Bosnian Serbs have highest percentage of early Slavic genetics out of all Serbs, on average.
Also, Bosnian Croats and those from South Croatia (I've seen some Croats from coastal part of Dalmatia who could be classified as Gracile Med or GM admixed) are not much different than these people, from my experience. BTW, can I send you my pics, I'm interested in your opinion. :D

Yeah, it is very possible but they do not pass better than other Serbs as Poles. Plus that Early Slavic could have been related to other tribes than those that would be ancestors of Poles. Sclaveni were described as related but different group of Slavs than Wends. There was a genetic exchange between them obviously back then.

[Varda]

In a public base of Serbian dna project there is 16 tested people on y dna from Nevesinje municipality, 7 of them are I2a-Din (mostly PH908).

16 Serbs from Nevesinje municipality.

I2a-Din - 7 (4 I2-PH908 / 2 I2-A1328 / 1 I2-Y56203)

J2 - 3 (2 J2-Y22059 / 1 J2-S8230)

R1a - 2 (both R1a-YP4278)

E1b - 2 (both E-Z16988)

I1 - 1 (I1-Y13930)

N - 1 (N-FGC28435)

[vbnetkhio]

Ironically, Bosnian Serbs have highest percentage of early Slavic genetics out of all Serbs, on average.


but these are Herzegovina Serbs, they are less Slavic and similar to Southeast Serbs and Montenegrins :)

[Terminator98]

Yeah, it is very possible but they do not pass better than other Serbs as Poles.

Actually, Serbs from eastern Herzegovina are probably least passable as Poles except maybe those from SE Serbia.


Plus that Early Slavic could have been related to other tribes than those that would be ancestors of Poles. Sclaveni were described as related but different group of Slavs than Wends.

Interesting, could be true. :)

[Varda]

but these are Herzegovina Serbs, they are less Slavic and similar to Southeast Serbs and Montenegrins :)

Herzegovinian Serbs are about 45% I2a-Din and 15-16% R1a (according to Poreklo on the sample over 400). Montenegrins are less than 40% I2a-Din+R1a.

[Terminator98]

but these are Herzegovina Serbs, they are less Slavic and similar to Southeast Serbs and Montenegrins :)

Really? Fuck me, I thought they are like other Serbs from B&H. BTW, isn't Serbian "Baltic" recorder from eastern Herzegovina? :D

[vbnetkhio]

Herzegovinian Serbs are about 45% I2a-Din and 15-16% R1a (according to Poreklo on the sample over 400). Montenegrins are less than 40% I2a-Din+R1a.

haplogroup percentages are sensitive to bottlenecks and founder effects. especially in Herzegovina and Montenegro where tribes and clans are present.
they can't tell us how much Slavic blood is there.


Really? Fuck me, I thought they are like other Serbs from B&H. BTW, isn't Serbian "Baltic" recorder from eastern Herzegovina? :D

no, he is from northern Kosovo and Mačva. his high Baltic probably comes from the Mačva side. i also found some results from Banija with 36% baltic.

[Varda]

bump

[Varda]

Gorids, Dinarids and Pontids

Could they fit in Greece?

[Renekton]

Could they fit in Greece?

No imo

[Celine]

I voted Serbia.

[Mortimer]

Probably Bosnia outside serbia I have no idea but they are white europeans

[Varda]

Probably Bosnia outside serbia I have no idea but they are white europeans

I didn't put Bosnia and Herzegovina because they are anyway from there.

[aherne]

Serbia = Montenegro = Bosnia = Croatia. Same people... There is significant resemblance to Bulgarians and FYROM-ians too

[Why so serious]

Serbia = Montenegro = Bosnia = Croatia. Same people... There is significant resemblance to Bulgarians and FYROM-ians too

serbia have more in common with bulgaria and your romania rather than Bosnia and Croatia

[CommonSense]

Serb Republic, Serbia, Montenegro.