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StonyArabia
09-15-2011, 11:01 PM
Israel: We Destroyed Iraq.. Iraq must Stay Divided and Isolated… The Oil of Northern Iraq will Flow into Israel!
Jouhaina News,
Avi Dichter, the Israeli Internal Security Minister, said in a lecture at the ‘Israeli National Security Research Center’ “about the Israeli role in destroying Iraq after it was occupied in 2003 “we achieved in Iraq more than we expected and plan!” Dichter confirmed that keeping Iraq weak and isolated is an Israeli national interest.

“Weakening and isolating Iraq is no less important than weakening and isolating Egypt,” he said. Weakening and isolating Egypt done by diplomatic methods while everything is done to do achieve a complete and comprehensive isolation to Iraq”, Dachter added.

“Iraq has vanished as a military force and as a united country. Our strategic option is to keep it divided,” he added.

“Our strategic goal is not to allow this country (Iraq) to take its regional and Arabic role back. Iraq must stay divided and isolated from its regional environment” he said.

About the role of the Kurdish parties in facilitating occupying Iraq Dichter said “the top goal for Israel is to support and provide the Kurds with weapons and training and to make them our partners in security in order to establish a Kurdish independent state in the northern part of Iraq where it can control Kirkuk’s and Kurdistan’s oil,” he added.

“The Kurdish leadership guaranteed to put the oil pipeline from Kirkuk to IBC line. We finished putting the plans and studies to establish pipelines for water and oil with Turkey and from Turkey into Israel,” he added.

The full transcript of the lecture is below:

Nobody can ignore what we had achieved on this field (Iraq). What was achieved was beyond what we had planned. We have to recall back our primary goals in Iraq since we started interfering in it at the beginning of the seventies of the last century. Our top goal was supporting the Kurds getting benefit from their feeling that they are persecuted ethnicity who have the right to self determination and to enjoy freedom as all other peoples.

At first our colleagues in Israel- who planned for (destroying) Iraq as uri Librani the previous advisor of the ex-prime minister and our ambassador to Turkey and Ethiopia and Iran- defined the core plan for the Israelis to support the Kurds. Our (Israeli) support to the Kurds was humble at the beginning. It was limited to a political support, mentioning the Kurds issue in the international meetings and conferences. We provided the Kurds also with money, but this was limited.

In 1972 this support had taken a security dimensions: providing the Kurds with weapons through Turkey and Iran and receiving Kurdish groups and gorillas for training in Israel and in Turkey and Iran.

After the Kurdish “resistance” fall apart as a result of the agreement with Iran, the Kurdish leadership went to Turkey, Syria and Israel. Israel for morale reasons had to stay beside the Kurds and support them till they got their national aim in achieving the self-rule in the first stage and the full state independent later on.

I won’t talk long but I have to say that now in Iraq there’s an independent Kurdish state. This state has people, land, authority, army, economic, oil. This state aims not to limit itself to Kurdistan only but to annex the northern of Iraq also; Kirkuk first, then al-Musel and may be SalahEddin city in addition to Jlolaa and Khankin.

The Kurds cant’ imagine what had achieved thanks to our support

Iraq which was in our strategic view the most dangerous challenge after it became a very huge military force. Suddenly Iraq falls apart as a military force and as a country! Iraq, the country which was united, suddenly became divided geographically, and its people is divided, it has now a civil war which led to the death of hundreds of thousands of the Iraqis!

If we watch Iraq since 2003 we would find ourselves in front of more than one perspective:

Iraq is now divided into three areas in spite of the existence of the central government.

Iraq is still under the possibility of more civil and sectarian conflicts between Sunnis and Shiites and between Arabs and Kurds.

Iraq can never be the same Iraq before 2003.

We (Israelis) weren’t far from these (catastrophic) developments in Iraq. Our strategic goal is still not to allow this country to stand on its feet again and not to allow it to play a regional or Arabic role because we’re the only losers in this.

We’ll still active in Iraq as long as the American forces provide us with the umbrella and the opportunity to kill any opportunity for the Iraqis to be strong again.

We’re trying our best in the shadows to guarantee and secure having restraints not only in the northern part of Iraq but in Baghdad also. We’re trying to have strong relations with some political and economical elites in Iraq to make sure that Iraq will stay from the circle of the Arabic countries. Iraq was at war with Israel till 2003.

We’re negotiating with the Americans to make sure that Iraq will never be at war with Israel again.

The American forces will stay in Iraq for one or two decades at least.

There’s special care to make the security agreements between the United States and Iraq contain more than an article secure keeping Iraq out of the conflict with Israel and not to allow it to join any coalitions against Israel.

We’re working on developing a security and strategic partnership with the Kurdish leadership in spite of the fact that this might anger Turkey and some other friendly countries.

Weakening and isolating Iraq is no less important than weakening and isolating Egypt. Weakening and isolating Egypt done by diplomatic methods while everything is done to do achieve a complete and comprehensive isolation to Iraq.”

So Israel used America as it's proxy against Iraq, so much for the democracy that the Americans promised.

Raskolnikov
09-16-2011, 12:46 AM
So Israel used America as it's proxy against Iraq, so much for the democracy that the Americans promised. No, it's true shitocracy / political division and isolation.

The Ripper
09-16-2011, 02:05 AM
So Israel used America as it's proxy against Iraq, so much for the democracy that the Americans promised.

What's the source? I have a hard time appreciating the credibility of such a military-focused paper that spells "guerillas" as "gorillas".

Joe McCarthy
09-16-2011, 02:21 AM
Nothing to see here really. We all know the Israelis didn't like Saddam, but to deny Iraq is more democratic now is nonsense. On an ethnic note, I could see the 'pan-Aryans' approving of Israeli support for the Kurds against Turkish and Arab belligerence.

The Ripper
09-16-2011, 02:56 AM
Nothing to see here really.

You mean nothing you want people to see. :D

StonyArabia
09-16-2011, 04:12 AM
What's the source? I have a hard time appreciating the credibility of such a military-focused paper that spells "guerillas" as "gorillas".

The article is circulated on various political blogs and as well mainstream website. Typos occur from time to time in major publications even, so this does not take away from the fact that the article is indeed speaking the truth in regards to America being used as a proxy for the war on Iraq. However I found the article on this site www.mhrinet.splinder.com. However there are more articles that have indeed shown the same statments that the Iraq war was fought for Israel's sake.


Nothing to see here really. We all know the Israelis didn't like Saddam, but to deny Iraq is more democratic now is nonsense. On an ethnic note, I could see the 'pan-Aryans' approving of Israeli support for the Kurds against Turkish and Arab belligerence.

Iraq might more democratic, but this only an illusion. The Americans have empowered Shia fundmentalists and militas, as well they encouraged sectarian and ethnic/tribal strife. The region is in chaos, but this what Israel wanted it's proxy to do in order to weaken Iraq, so a divide and conquer strategy was made. The Kurds are being used as tools, they have always sided with the powers that be and usually ending up betrayed. Israel however has lost it's most powerful alley in the Middle East and being constantly isolated. The situation in Iraq looks like a relief, if Iraq stands up on it's two feet again and be a united entity it would be threat to Israel again.

Turkey
09-20-2011, 07:49 AM
Pride comes before the fall. The more they gloat the more people will wake up to them.