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The Blade
09-13-2020, 03:14 PM
Russian singer/model. 165 cm. tall. Paleo Atlantid.

https://youtu.be/9LtaOKsbhBk

https://youtu.be/hP8bysBFf5s
https://i1.sndcdn.com/artworks-000496514634-9m1x58-t500x500.jpg
https://lastfm.freetls.fastly.net/i/u/770x0/c8af6d169c81b5e7754f038da2e86f2b.jpg
https://lastfm.freetls.fastly.net/i/u/770x0/c103f41cedc0e92e5b999411fa201a80.jpg
https://note-store.com/upload/resize_cache/iblock/792/325_380_2/Zivert.png
https://popnable.com/images/singers/temp/zivert_1570883406_russia_top_100_191.jpg
https://www.novosibexpo.ru/images/expo-event/700x300x1-item/8o9m8-zivert.jpg
https://p1.music.126.net/1m7K-HSAYe8lUacJ3860dQ==/109951163111543982.jpg
https://100biografiy.ru/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/e03cbfdcbcf339b53f893611b39fda6a.jpg
https://lastfm.freetls.fastly.net/i/u/arO/8fa994252d4f3728bbdf3af3b4ef5ede
https://musclub.ru/preview/de62cadf62b28d87169d701eee2042fa/r/600x600/data/sites/blog/16-04-2019/image_d135ec45bdba4c2ce21408d8a458286a.jpeg
https://f9.pmo.ee/09L8MOtoXbFsP5gX-m3U6AUA5Tc=/685x0/filters:focal(27x1:300x270)/nginx/o/2019/10/23/12679617t1ha3b8.jpg
https://devushka.ru/upload/posts/05-10-2018/91242f8153b9dcf9167be14fd4b89fb3.jpg
https://muzoncity.art/i/img/artists/full/184-zivert.jpg
https://www.eg.ru/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/zivert-ins013358.jpg
https://m.spletnik.ru/img/2020/yana/20190115-zivert-7.jpg
https://www.womanhit.ru/media/CACHE/images/articleimage2/2020/1/screenshot1_s7iazni/11ddbca41acf3c460396374b123e41c3.jpg
https://www.wmj.ru/imgs/2020/07/13/08/3998086/318dd7b3d5e051a46f3ac3e6c8a9cca8d24a8f9e.jpg
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/4b/54/16/4b54160a6020601592b79f284d5a2202.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/80m97Gg/Yulia-Zivert-Wallpapers-Insta-Fit-Bio-15.jpg
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/96/66/0c/96660c6dbb1d0bc856b4d917510066a4.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/it/thumb/9/9c/Zivert_-_Life.png/1200px-Zivert_-_Life.png
https://devushka.ru/upload/posts/04-03-2019/56de4cef53b145901f3df98cbe04b18b.jpg
https://mysekret.ru/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/mycollages-58-800x600.jpg
https://www.replyua.net/uploads/posts/2020-02/1581339079_screenshot_6.jpg

Ülev
09-13-2020, 03:17 PM
Russian singer/model. 165 cm. tall. Paleo Atlantid.
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please stop it! how anybody with the head of pin size can be called paleo atlantid?


Very large-headed, dolicho- sometimes mesocephalic, chamae- orthocranic.
http://humanphenotypes.net/PaleoAtlantid.html

Pertoto
09-13-2020, 03:17 PM
Pontid I think she pass easily in Greece and Bulgaria

The Blade
09-13-2020, 03:20 PM
please stop it! how anybody with the head of pin size can be called paleo atlantid?


http://humanphenotypes.net/PaleoAtlantid.html
This woman has a quite prominent occiput and is at least mesocephalic visibly.
This size mania of yours demands women to all be about 190 cm. tall and basically comparable to larger men in terms of cranium and everything.
I knew that opinion would frustrate Travv (or whatever nick that piece of shit used you prefer) but you seem to admire him recently, so I'm not surprised.

Ülev
09-13-2020, 03:25 PM
This woman has a quite prominent occiput and is at least mesocephalic visibly.
This size mania of yours demands women to all be about 190 cm. tall and basically comparable to larger men in terms of cranium and everything.
I knew that opinion would frustrate Travv (or whatever nick that piece of shit used you prefer) but you seem to admire him recently, so I'm not surprised.

she can be called paleo-baltid or paleo-pontid, paleo-caspian, paleo-azov etc.
http://humanphenotypes.net/PaleoAtlantid.html
Strongest concentrations in Southern Norwegian mountain valleys (e.g. Tydal), Dalarna (Sweden), Western Scotland, and Ireland. Has a Tydal subvariety in Scandinavia.

The Blade
09-13-2020, 03:35 PM
she can be called paleo-baltid or paleo-pontid, paleo-caspian, paleo-azov etc.

No actual author ever used these terms or regarded them as stabilized blends.
However, for something to be Paleo influenced Pontic type, the Pontid has to be visible - like in this case (BG footballer):
https://www.lportala.net/i/players/413_big.jpg

Immanenz
09-13-2020, 05:05 PM
Russian version of Gracile Med

travv
09-14-2020, 01:29 PM
#ÜlevTeam

travv
09-14-2020, 01:35 PM
she can be called paleo-baltid or paleo-pontid, paleo-caspian, paleo-azov etc.
http://humanphenotypes.net/PaleoAtlantid.html
Strongest concentrations in Southern Norwegian mountain valleys (e.g. Tydal), Dalarna (Sweden), Western Scotland, and Ireland. Has a Tydal subvariety in Scandinavia.

She's half Gypsy. Her father is from Ukraine and he's of Gypsy descent.

https://allya.ru/biografiya/zivert

So you are right she's Paleo-Azov so called Ukrainian PA.

Ülev
09-14-2020, 01:56 PM
She's half Gypsy. Her father is from Ukraine and he's of Gypsy descent.

https://allya.ru/biografiya/zivert

So you are right she's Paleo-Azov so called Ukrainian PA.

she is so brachycephalic that it hurts , Paleo Atlantid they said...
from that link


https://youtu.be/CUPxcRsKdPg

The Blade
09-14-2020, 01:57 PM
She's half Gypsy. Her father is from Ukraine and he's of Gypsy descent.

https://allya.ru/biografiya/zivert

So you are right she's Paleo-Azov so called Ukrainian PA.
She is also German and Polish according to link you posted.
Basically, turns out she's as Russian/Ukrainian as much as Kim Jong-un is.

The Blade
09-14-2020, 02:00 PM
she is so brachycephalic that it hurts , Paleo Atlantid they said...
from that link


https://youtu.be/CUPxcRsKdPg
Brachycephalic only in a parallel universe...
Even by male standards she seems meso, what left for proper scale females are measured by:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cephalic_index

travv
09-14-2020, 02:07 PM
she is so brachycephalic that it hurts , Paleo Atlantid they said...
from that link


https://youtu.be/CUPxcRsKdPg

Those photos with makeup are useless for classification. On them she looks Latina or triracial. If you googled her without makeup she looks what she is - Slavic (Pontid type) with South Asian input. Best fits in Ukraine.

The Blade
09-14-2020, 02:13 PM
Those photos with makeup are useless for classification. On them she looks Latina or triracial. If you googled her without makeup she looks what she is - Slavic (Pontid type) with South Asian input. Best fits in Ukraine.
The only biracial (Gypo-Uralic) here are you.
Pontid is as typically Slavic look as much as Gracile Med is a Northwestern one.
If Pontid was really related to core Slavic areas it would be common in Central and Eastern Europe.
Instead according to authors it peaks in Northeastern Bulgaria.

Ülev
09-14-2020, 02:32 PM
Brachycephalic only in a parallel universe...
Even by male standards she seems meso, what left for proper scale females are measured by:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cephalic_index
this is brachy (front to back of head):
https://i.postimg.cc/bwPsg8wY/brachy.png
this is dolicho:
https://i.postimg.cc/G2KZWFkS/vve1.jpg

Immanenz
09-14-2020, 02:37 PM
The only biracial (Gypo-Uralic) here are you.
Pontid is as typically Slavic look as much as Gracile Med is a Northwestern one.
If Pontid was really related to core Slavic areas it would be common in Central and Eastern Europe.
Instead according to authors it peaks in Northeastern Bulgaria.

i do think real Pontids are Slavic looking, if not they either look East Med, sometimes West Med or a mix of that which makes classifcation ultra difficult. Bulgarians are also genetically like 45 % slavic , but nobody is pure Slavic- all countries have a degree of admix that leads to differences of phenotypes too

Ülev
09-14-2020, 08:38 PM
Those photos with makeup are useless for classification. On them she looks Latina or triracial. If you googled her without makeup she looks what she is - Slavic (Pontid type) with South Asian input. Best fits in Ukraine.

Ukraina ce Evropa

Roy
09-14-2020, 08:51 PM
I would not say she's a Paleo Atlantid.

The Blade
09-14-2020, 09:38 PM
i do think real Pontids are Slavic looking, if not they either look East Med, sometimes West Med or a mix of that which makes classifcation ultra difficult. Bulgarians are also genetically like 45 % slavic , but nobody is pure Slavic- all countries have a degree of admix that leads to differences of phenotypes too
The main haplogroup among West and East Slavic speakers is R1a, while N1c1 is present among Finno-Uralics and where those met Slavs.
Really common phenotypes among Slavs are Baltid, East Nordid and blends of these.
Pontid is simply a Mediterranean subtype. It being common among Northeastern Bulgarians and non-Slavic speaking Romanians (among them often in alpinised form) doesn't make it a ''Slavic'' type and it certainly didn't spread to the Balkans via Slavic migrations. On the contrary, Bulgars were East Mediterranean and Iranic people (some of them, mainly the nobility, slightly altered by Turkic or Hun admixture), so Pontid basically arrived with them.
Also, capitals of the ancient Bulgar kingdom such as Pliska & Veliki Preslav are both located in Northeastern Bulgaria.

SanchoI
09-14-2020, 09:39 PM
Gracile Med

travv
09-15-2020, 08:04 PM
Ukraina ce Evropa


http://ufodos.org.ua/publ/ukraincy_potomki_atlantov/7-1-0-490

Ülev
09-15-2020, 08:09 PM
http://ufodos.org.ua/publ/ukraincy_potomki_atlantov/7-1-0-490

rotfl

Ülev
09-15-2020, 08:16 PM
http://ufodos.org.ua/publ/ukraincy_potomki_atlantov/7-1-0-490

do you suggest close ties between Turkey and Ukraine? - I mean - Atlantean brotherhood?

travv
09-15-2020, 08:21 PM
do you suggest close ties between Turkey and Ukraine? - I mean - Atlantean brotherhood?

Probably... Paleo-Azov type is similar to Turkish PA though.

Bydlo
09-16-2020, 10:23 AM
Atypical, She looks Ukrainian