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Illyrius
09-15-2020, 09:28 PM
I've always wondered this. Since without your Y DNA you wouldn't be a boy/man to begin with lol.
Are some physical/mental traits linked to certain mutations and SNPs perhaps?

Is I1/I2 men being taller simply a coincidence or is it tied to their Haplogroup and their respective mutations?
Or is it something else.

Anyway.. anyone who's more acquainted with this stuff can they give me a legit answer, as to whether Y-DNA Haplogroups influence looks or behaviour to some degree or not?

Chris596
09-15-2020, 09:37 PM
This is a really good question. I don't really think so, but:

- I'm E-V13 and genetically I'm almost like a full Serbian (see my signature, the Germanic Europe is a Paleo-Balkan outlier which was found in Germany)
- I think my height is average for Europeans (around 180 cm but many people say I'm 183, idk)
- My maternal grandpa was about 184 cm (he was taller than me now, he was most likely I1 or I2 ), my paternal grandpa was quite tall too

I don't know what exactly you meant by behaviour. I can answer that as well if you can specify it.

Dr_Maul
09-15-2020, 09:45 PM
This is a really good question. I don't really think so, but:

- I'm E-V13 and genetically I'm almost like a full Serbian (see my signature, the Germanic Europe is a Paleo-Balkan outlier which was found in Germany)
- I think my height is average for Europeans (around 180 cm but many people say I'm 183, idk)
- My maternal grandpa was about 184 cm (he was taller than me now, he was most likely I1 or I2 ), my paternal grandpa was quite tall too

I don't know what exactly you meant by behaviour. I can answer that as well if you can specify it.

To test the theory we need to see if any songs made by E-V13 males have any effect on people sharing the same haplo
When you hear these, how do you feel? They are E-V13 productions so they should have a special effect theoretically

[
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYxAiK6VnXw&ab_channel=OutkastVEVO


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBwAxmrE194&feature=emb_title&ab_channel=WuTangClanVEVO

El_Abominacion
09-15-2020, 09:55 PM
My Y line is Chinese but all the Chinese ancestry is from that one paternal great-grandfather. I do show Chinese features despite only being some 15% East Asian

Ülev
09-15-2020, 10:00 PM
My Y line is Chinese but all the Chinese ancestry is from that one paternal great-grandfather. I do show Chinese features despite only being some 15% East Asian

are you lactose intolerant? - fundamental question!

Coastal Elite
09-15-2020, 10:00 PM
I'm really loud in movie theaters

El_Abominacion
09-15-2020, 10:01 PM
are you lactose intolerant? - fundamental question!

Yeah i'm supposed to be lol. But I still drink 2l of milk a day, milk addict

Seya
09-15-2020, 10:12 PM
it influences nothing

Chris596
09-15-2020, 10:16 PM
are you lactose intolerant? - fundamental question!

I'm also lactose intolerant :rolleyes:

PaleoEuropean
09-15-2020, 10:16 PM
I2 makes you noble, handsome, good with womenz and a superior warrior F A C T

Ülev
09-15-2020, 10:17 PM
back to the topic, yes, of course, Europa Soberana explains this precisely

read this

http://europasoberana.blogspot.com/2013/05/the-new-racial-classification-i.html

btw, I am mix of Red and White Nordid by skin tone and pheno, but Red (not the communist) by y-dna :rolleyes:

Chaos One
09-15-2020, 10:22 PM
1.70m, basically MENA looking

Now look to my Y-DNA

Seya
09-15-2020, 10:38 PM
1.70m, basically MENA looking

Now look to my Y-DNA

yeap. my father's family are all a bunch of midgets. now look at his Y-DNA

Leto
09-15-2020, 10:40 PM
Yes, in particular R1a boosts one's whiteness in my eyes. I'd prefer an R1a Pakistani to an H one :cool:

Bosniensis
09-15-2020, 10:53 PM
I've always wondered this. Since without your Y DNA you wouldn't be a boy/man to begin with lol.
Are some physical/mental traits linked to certain mutations and SNPs perhaps?

Is I1/I2 men being taller simply a coincidence or is it tied to their Haplogroup and their respective mutations?
Or is it something else.

Anyway.. anyone who's more acquainted with this stuff can they give me a legit answer, as to whether Y-DNA Haplogroups influence looks or behaviour to some degree or not?

I believe haplogroup define many things

1. basic looks
2. which other genes can be inherited
3. behavior

etc...

Haplogroup is more important than we think

Not a Cop
09-15-2020, 10:53 PM
Yes, in fact doctor professor von Hoorst rescently found out that in 12.72% of cases male Homo Sapiens Sapiens go on internet forums and write dozens of posts about the superiority of their haplogroup after getting the DNA test results.

So Y-dna most defenietly affects the behaviour.

Chaos One
09-15-2020, 10:56 PM
yeap. my father's family are all a bunch of midgets. now look at his Y-DNA

My Y-DNA is from Denmark lol

And I'm 100% sure that my mtDNA is European, too. And I can only barely pass in 2 or 3 European countries.

Vascontelo
09-15-2020, 11:41 PM
There is not scientifical evidence.

JohnnyP
09-16-2020, 12:42 AM
Idk about haplogroup I2 but in general if we talk about Balkans ,for example about Illyrians they were really tall people ,todays tallest people are from Montenegro and Netherland/Belgium , some coincidence ? Belgae / Gauls / Celts / Illyrians ?
Also ancient Balkans (Illyrians,Macedonians,Thracians,Dacians) were really war-like and barbarians and modern Balkans are really war-like and we can say barbarians for modern world :D If its not haplogroup idk what is... ANd somehow i always connecting savage behaviour between balkans and English/Irish people.

Chris596
09-16-2020, 06:35 PM
back to the topic, yes, of course, Europa Soberana explains this precisely

read this

http://europasoberana.blogspot.com/2013/05/the-new-racial-classification-i.html

btw, I am mix of Red and White Nordid by skin tone and pheno, but Red (not the communist) by y-dna :rolleyes:


Many individuals with completely European features carry non-European haplogroups [...] the Congid E-V13 [...]


[...] To the contrary, these three examples —which come from zones of Sub-Saharan Africa with extremely high R1b frequencies, and display very apparent Red Nordid features— may well trace their paternal lineages to the R1b haplogroup, which in no way means they have "European genetics", but that, on their paternal side, they descend from Red Nordids (R1b1*) that reached that area 15,000 years ago, mixing subsequently with the native Congids and leaving scattered pieces of genetic information, like the shape of the skull, lips, jawbones, etc. [...]

:rotfl2 :rotfl2 :rotfl2

I acknowledge the Sub-Saharan African origin of my haplogroup, but saying that people who carry this haplogroup are Sub-Saharan or straight black is very hilarious xD

Also I think I'm mainly a mix of Dinarid + Mediterranean + East Slavic (I can tan but I don't have brown skin, rather fair, I have a straight nose as well and my height is average, but not short compared to 85% of Europe). It's not that easy, even if some of these websites would like to put it that way.


So all in all, in the last 15.000 years I had a Sub-Saharan African ancestor who mixed with R1b people, possibly somewhere around the Mediterranean? And much much later, around ~1000 years ago those native Southeast Europeans and East Europeans mixed with Eurasian steppe people? (Uralic Hungarians and Huns in my case, possibly other ethnicities as well).

MiloshN
09-16-2020, 06:50 PM
The only psychological impact, if you get the Y-DNA you didn't want?

Ülev
09-16-2020, 06:54 PM
I wish I am D or L y-dna

Jana
09-16-2020, 06:55 PM
I don't know...but my father was reading about all these haplogroups in newspapers, long before he got tested...and he told me: "no need to test me. I am I2-din, 100%". He got it correctly, as that's his haplogroup.
I"let you be the judge :o

del

Dr_Maul
09-16-2020, 06:58 PM
I don't know...but my father was reading about all these haplogroups in newspapers, long before he got tested...and he told me: "no need to test me. I am I2-din, 100%". He got it correctly, as that's his haplogroup.
I"let you be the judge :o



He is pretty chadly, perhaps he is actually J2 in disguise :thumb001:

Ülev
09-16-2020, 06:58 PM
yes, long face (not Cephalic Index thing) is definitely I y-dna feature

Jana
09-16-2020, 07:01 PM
He is pretty chadly, perhaps he is actually J2 in disguise :thumb001:

IJ brotherhood! Those are cousin hgs,just like R and Q :o

MandM
09-16-2020, 07:03 PM
i am E-V13 and i am tall and have mesomorph bodytype, dont think haplogruop have much to do with that, has to do with other genes then thoes of haplogroup

Ülev
09-16-2020, 07:04 PM
IJ brotherhood! Those are cousin hgs,just like R and Q :o

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?207511-Happy-I-m-not-R1a

Jana
09-16-2020, 07:06 PM
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?207511-Happy-I-m-not-R1a

xD

You didn't test yet, but I hope you will be I-man!
I must say I expected Stears to be R1a, but he isn't. And he's happy about that xD

Ülev
09-16-2020, 07:09 PM
xD

You didn't test yet, but I hope you will be I-man!
I must say I expected Stears to be R1a, but he isn't. And he's happy about that xD

my cousins tested... I should be R-U106 :p

Jana
09-16-2020, 07:10 PM
my cousins tested... I should be R-U106 :p

Like Hrvoje :)

MiloshN
09-16-2020, 07:14 PM
my cousins tested... I should be R-U106 :p

:((((( oh R

Ülev
09-16-2020, 07:19 PM
:((((( oh R

sorry, my grandfather came from Northern Germany :cool:

Leto
09-16-2020, 07:20 PM
IJ brotherhood! Those are cousin hgs,just like R and Q :o
Robocuck is similar and one of you :D

MiloshN
09-16-2020, 07:21 PM
sorry, my grandfather came from Northern Germany :cool:

https://media1.tenor.com/images/bb6aa5121851f1b57a2cb50f73005c66/tenor.gif?itemid=8375212

Jana
09-16-2020, 07:21 PM
Robocuck is similar and one of you :D

Seya is also I2 girl :D
Who are the R1a girls? :)

Edit: Alenka is R1a girl!

Jana
09-16-2020, 07:22 PM
E-V13 girls = Ylla, Hulu :)

Illyrius
09-16-2020, 07:25 PM
yes, long face (not Cephalic Index thing) is definitely I y-dna feature

I have a long face and I'm r1b

Ülev
09-16-2020, 07:27 PM
sorry, my grandfather came from Northern Germany :cool:


https://media1.tenor.com/images/bb6aa5121851f1b57a2cb50f73005c66/tenor.gif?itemid=8375212


https://youtu.be/A8HOPQGxfj4

:p

MiloshN
09-16-2020, 07:28 PM
I have a wide face and I'm r1b

oh, I have white skin, but I am E :eek:
relax bro :D Apart from the haplogroup, I have nothing else African. Ok maybe something, characteristic of blacks, hehehe.
I have more similarities for Poles or Ukrainians. (Speaking of physical appearance)

Chris596
09-16-2020, 07:30 PM
It feels good to be a gangsta, but I wish I was N or R1a/R1b, true Eurasian haplogroup


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HMjOiHqE18

Jana
09-16-2020, 07:32 PM
I wish Stears was N1c too :(
Uralische beauties haplogroup :o

Dorian
09-16-2020, 07:33 PM
No If an area has 25% x phenotype 30% y etc the same distribution you'd find on every haplogroup , it's junk ,same goes for autosomal..anything else is autism.

Ülev
09-16-2020, 07:33 PM
fixed


It feels good to be a gangsta, but I wish I was N or R1a/R1b, true Eurasian haplogroup


https://youtu.be/pzmI3vAIhbE

Frowning Man
09-16-2020, 07:35 PM
If there is a connection between tall and haplogroup I , as some wrote here. That would be an interesting coincidence. I also have haplogroup I and I am tall. Or is it just a coincidence.

MiloshN
09-16-2020, 07:35 PM
fixed

fixed


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9V78UbdzWI

Slavic Italian
09-16-2020, 07:37 PM
Y DNA is who you are. Autosomal is just the gasoline in the tank. Also, Seya is a dude.

Rocinante
09-16-2020, 08:42 PM
My behaviour is totally R-DF27, that's for sure.

Chryssie Khanate
09-16-2020, 09:00 PM
I'm R1b >> R-M269 >> R-U106 >> R-Z159

No idea what to make of it, besides being Germanic.

I look nothing like white europeans (Slavs and Swedes), alpinid europeans, or southern europeans, that's for sure. I look closest to the French and Irish I think.

Jana
09-16-2020, 09:30 PM
Y DNA is who you are. Autosomal is just the gasoline in the tank. Also, Seya is a dude.

You are one of most autistic members out here, and that's an archivement.

Slavic Italian
09-16-2020, 09:39 PM
You are one of most autistic members out here, and that's an archivement.

Put your girlfriend back on here.

mitalit
09-16-2020, 09:41 PM
nope

Chaos One
09-16-2020, 09:50 PM
It feels good to be a gangsta, but I wish I was N or R1a/R1b, true Eurasian haplogroup


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HMjOiHqE18

Like me, I really do like to be an I2 (it's fun to be totally different from what you expect at some point) but would prefer a C, D or R1a.

Leto
09-16-2020, 10:42 PM
Like me, I really do like to be an I2 (it's fun to be totally different from what you expect at some point) but would prefer a C, D or R1a.
In your country and in South America at large R1b, E1b1, J2 and Q would make a lot more sense. Don't even know why we have here a Colombian and a Brazilian with R1a-Z93. A statistical anomaly.

Defcon2
09-16-2020, 10:57 PM
In your country and in South America at large R1b, E1b1, J2 and Q would make a lot more sense. Don't even know why we have here a Colombian and a Brazilian with R1a-Z93. A statistical anomaly.

The Y-paternal line seems to be random, I have a SSA haplogroup and a Spanish partner from the forum is R-Z282. And another Hispanic-Colombian partner is L21. Crazy.

stellan
09-16-2020, 11:16 PM
well not necessarily. people who share Y-DNA have a common ancestor, so technically it could influence looks and maybe behavior bc of the genes of that common ancestor that were passed down, but i'm not sure if there's a direct link between looks/behavior and Y haplogroups

Leto
09-16-2020, 11:24 PM
The Y-paternal line seems to be random, I have a SSA haplogroup and a Spanish partner from the forum is R-Z282. And another Hispanic-Colombian partner is L21. Crazy.
Do you think in your case a black guy race-mixed, got assimilated and subsequently racially diluted some centuries ago?

Chaos One
09-16-2020, 11:47 PM
In your country and in South America at large R1b, E1b1, J2 and Q would make a lot more sense. Don't even know why we have here a Colombian and a Brazilian with R1a-Z93. A statistical anomaly.

In fact I was talking with Ethel about this. I thought I would be a E1b1, J or R1b but being I2 is...dunno.

Illyrius
09-16-2020, 11:58 PM
oh, I have white skin, but I am E :eek:
relax bro :D Apart from the haplogroup, I have nothing else African. Ok maybe something, characteristic of blacks, hehehe.
I have more similarities for Poles or Ukrainians. (Speaking of physical appearance)

Do you remember my physical appearence? How would you classify me.

knez01
09-17-2020, 12:20 AM
I've always wondered this. Since without your Y DNA you wouldn't be a boy/man to begin with lol.
Are some physical/mental traits linked to certain mutations and SNPs perhaps?

Is I1/I2 men being taller simply a coincidence or is it tied to their Haplogroup and their respective mutations?
Or is it something else.

Anyway.. anyone who's more acquainted with this stuff can they give me a legit answer, as to whether Y-DNA Haplogroups influence looks or behaviour to some degree or not?

I am I2 and 6'7'' or a bit more than 2m tall. I have a quick temper which is a characteristic of my people. But I believe it was just a coincidence, since I got height from my mothers side, great grandfather was around 2m+ tall soldier. While my fathers side was always short at around 185-190cm. But I guess on the wider scale my region is taller, I don't know if it's because of haplogroups or just because of good food and constant war.

Immanenz
09-17-2020, 12:30 AM
I'm R1b >> R-M269 >> R-U106 >> R-Z159

No idea what to make of it, besides being Germanic.

I look nothing like white europeans (Slavs and Swedes), alpinid europeans, or southern europeans, that's for sure. I look closest to the French and Irish I think.

Looking French and Irish at the same time is not so common really

Illyrius
09-17-2020, 12:54 AM
In your country and in South America at large R1b, E1b1, J2 and Q would make a lot more sense. Don't even know why we have here a Colombian and a Brazilian with R1a-Z93. A statistical anomaly.

R1a Z93 as far as Brazil?
Lol
Wait until proto shaman claims that Brazilians are a Turkic people now...

Immanenz
09-17-2020, 01:08 AM
I am I2 and 6'7'' or a bit more than 2m tall. ... But I guess on the wider scale my region is taller, I don't know if it's because of haplogroups or just because of good food and constant war.

Lol that made me laugh hard.

MiloshN
09-17-2020, 06:18 AM
Do you remember my physical appearence? How would you classify me.

yap, Balkan man :) although to me you don't look like a typical Albanian.

WeirdLookingFellow
09-17-2020, 06:57 AM
It might, with sufficient endogamy.

Maybe my E-V13 caused my hairy legs, who knows.

Illyrius
09-17-2020, 10:33 AM
yap, Balkan man :) although to me you don't look like a typical Albanian.

Haha what do i look like then if not a typical Albanian?

TheMaestro
09-17-2020, 10:42 AM
If there is a connection between tall and haplogroup I , as some wrote here. That would be an interesting coincidence. I also have haplogroup I and I am tall. Or is it just a coincidence.

Not really, NL is mostly r1b and they are one of tallest in the world, I'm E-V13 and I'm tall.

Chris596
09-17-2020, 10:45 AM
Not really, NL is mostly r1b and they are one of tallest in the world, I'm E-V13 and I'm tall.

How tall are you? I think I'm average for a Hungarian / slightly tall.

You can also answer in PM

Wolfdog
09-17-2020, 11:18 AM
Probably, no at all
iMO

paradox
09-17-2020, 11:21 AM
E-V13 girls = Ylla, Hulu :)Me too

TheMaestro
09-17-2020, 11:35 AM
How tall are you? I think I'm average for a Hungarian / slightly tall.

You can also answer in PM

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Defcon2
09-17-2020, 11:42 AM
Do you think in your case a black guy race-mixed, got assimilated and subsequently racially diluted some centuries ago?

The subclade is more than 3500 years old so I don't know, it could be due to an ancestor mixed with SSA at some point in southern Morocco and entering the Iberian peninsula during the Almoravid period.

Chris596
09-17-2020, 11:47 AM
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Wow that's really tall indeed. I'm not sure I think I'm 180-183 cm.

The tallest guy I know is ironically a Szekely Hungarian, ~195 cm :D But I think he has some German ancestry too.

Jana
09-17-2020, 12:16 PM
Wow that's really tall indeed. I'm not sure I think I'm 180-183 cm.

The tallest guy I know is ironically a Szekely Hungarian, ~195 cm :D But I think he has some German ancestry too.

Szekelys were described as taller than Hungarians proper by classical anthropologists such as Coon.
Stears Szekely side is taller than his Transdanubian side, with few of his uncles close or over 2 meters. Ironically his father was short but maybe because he was born during WW2.

Transdaubians are generally tall though from my experience in the region.

MiloshN
09-17-2020, 05:19 PM
Fak I am E-V13 but tall as R1a xD

Illyrius
09-17-2020, 07:50 PM
Fak I am E-V13 but tall as R1a xD

How tall are you my lad.

Rocinante
09-17-2020, 07:55 PM
How tall are you my lad.

Nigga we r1bs are the only big dick chinks in the human history, that's why I1/I2, G2a, J2, E-V13, etc. fell in love with us.

Bro, sorry that i didn't answered yet the last PM, how are you my bro?

Frowning Man
09-17-2020, 07:57 PM
If I'm not mistaken in Europe, the Balkan region is considered the tallest?

KrashNick
09-17-2020, 07:57 PM
The only psychological impact, if you get the Y-DNA you didn't want?

Why so insecure Milosh?

You should be happy that you are E-V13, not everyone is lucky as you :D

Chaos One
09-17-2020, 07:59 PM
The subclade is more than 3500 years old so I don't know, it could be due to an ancestor mixed with SSA at some point in southern Morocco and entering the Iberian peninsula during the Almoravid period.

Like mine, probably I2 because Vandal or Norman invasion in North Africa. Who knows.

Scandal
09-17-2020, 08:22 PM
lolll.....

Illyrius
09-17-2020, 09:15 PM
Nigga we r1bs are the only big dick chinks in the human history, that's why I1/I2, G2a, J2, E-V13, etc. fell in love with us.

Bro, sorry that i didn't answered yet the last PM, how are you my bro?

Lol what makes you say R1ers are chinks

Harkonnen
09-17-2020, 09:23 PM
Yes it does. Closest to me here in behaviour is Saiwalo. If he'd speak more, the spiritual similarity would be more obvious to outsider

Adamm
09-17-2020, 09:24 PM
Like mine, probably I2 because Vandal or Norman invasion in North Africa. Who knows.

I2 is very rare in North Africa, R1b also rare but more common than I2.

Chaos One
09-17-2020, 09:35 PM
I2 is very rare in North Africa, R1b also rare but more common than I2.

Yup, although I'm sure by all means that my family does not have near European background from this side, much less Danish or German.

Adamm
09-17-2020, 09:42 PM
Yup, although I'm sure by all means that my family does not have near European background from this side, much less Danish or German.

Well your paternal line is dominated by West European flags on the YFULL tree:

https://www.yfull.com/tree/I-CTS10057/

Chaos One
09-17-2020, 09:45 PM
Well your paternal line is dominated by West European flags on the YFULL tree:

https://www.yfull.com/tree/I-CTS10057/

Yes, and my Grandfather looks like a Filipino lol

Adamm
09-17-2020, 09:47 PM
Yes, and my Grandfather looks like a Filipino lol

Well that's the funny thing about Y-dna, it has no relation whatsoever to how people look like or what their main autosomalic genetic make-up consists off.

billsoncreole26
09-17-2020, 10:30 PM
It has very little to do with it.

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MiloshN
09-18-2020, 08:43 AM
How tall are you my lad.


hahah did you mean short? :D

175/6 cm xD

MiloshN
09-18-2020, 08:43 AM
Why so insecure Milosh?

You should be happy that you are E-V13, not everyone is lucky as you :D

I2a is better bro :D

Shubotai
09-18-2020, 05:37 PM
There is no direct effect in the human organism between the two but people carrying same haplogroups may look alike because they come from populations that share common traits. Also there are 22 chromosomes of infinite more length than the two monophyletic chromosomes that affect phenotype a lot more and even there X has more influence than Y. For haplogroups, they are just a group of certain genes into these two chrosomomes so the influence is insignificant. But I noticed persons of same haplogroups tend to think in similar patterns.

Ebion
10-03-2020, 08:56 PM
From my observation R people tend to be feminine while IJ people tend to be sneaky and cowardly.

gixajo
10-03-2020, 09:09 PM
There is no direct effect in the human organism between the two but people carrying same haplogroups may look alike because they come from populations that share common traits. Also there are 22 chromosomes of infinite more length than the two monophyletic chromosomes that affect phenotype a lot more and even there X has more influence than Y. For haplogroups, they are just a group of certain genes into these two chrosomomes so the influence is insignificant. But I noticed persons of same haplogroups tend to think in similar patterns.

:picard1:

gixajo
10-03-2020, 09:09 PM
From my observation R people tend to be feminine while IJ people tend to be sneaky and cowardly.

:rolleyes:

gixajo
10-03-2020, 09:10 PM
TA is becoming a forum dedicated to humor.

Illyrius
10-03-2020, 10:50 PM
From my observation R people tend to be feminine while IJ people tend to be sneaky and cowardly.

Lmao i get pretty feminine at times. But maybe that has to with my zodiac sign being cancer.

Illyrius
10-03-2020, 10:52 PM
TA is becoming a forum dedicated to humor.

Do yoy really think most people come here tk discuss about the actual significance of Haplogroups and other nerdy things

I'm here to troll and for the memes.

RyoHazuki
10-03-2020, 11:58 PM
Haplogroups are like zodiac signs for some of you

PaleoEuropean
10-04-2020, 12:04 AM
I2a is better bro :D

You are always welcome in the I2a table.

Rethel
10-10-2020, 10:36 AM
I've always wondered this. Since without your Y DNA you wouldn't be a boy/man to begin with lol.
Are some physical/mental traits linked to certain mutations and SNPs perhaps?

In one research which was published couple of years ago, and was even discussed on this forum,
was concluded, that one of the subclades of Z93 common in Pakistan inticates higher violence.

It is not so weired at it can seems to be.

Usually people think that Y chromosome is useless. But how it can be useless, if it contains most of the most important personality traits. Being a man or a woman is a huuuuge difference in almost every aspect - brain size, brain function, iq, body size, muscle volume, way of thinking, different internal and external organs and their functions, orientation in space, creativity, logical reasoning aso, aso... so if on that one single chromosome depend almost everything, then logically, also some behaviour traits could depend also. It would be even weird, if not. The look per se definitly also, as having a male or female look is totaly depending on that exact chromosome.



Is I1/I2 men being taller simply a coincidence or is it tied to their Haplogroup and their respective mutations?
Or is it something else.

Coincidence, as the same areas just 100 years ago, were much smaller, and they are not pure I-areas. And from archeological data it is known, that R1 EHGans were the tallest in Europe, and rest of folks living in central, western or southern Europe was smaller, even much smaller. If tall stature is combined with some hg, it is certainly R1, not the I. Looking at the map of tallness in Europe supports this. The only region which does not fit, is Bośnia, but it is just a coincidence, as there is a lot of eastern admixture and still many R1s until this day.

MandM
10-10-2020, 10:41 AM
I2a is better bro :D

traitor :p

Defcon2
10-10-2020, 11:58 AM
In one research which was published couple of years ago, and was even discussed on this forum,
was concluded, that one of the subclades of Z93 common in Pakistan inticates higher violence.

It is not so weired at it can seems to be.

Usually people think that Y chromosome is useless. But how it can be useless, if it contains most of the most important personality traits. Being a man or a woman is a huuuuge difference in almost every aspect - brain size, brain function, iq, body size, muscle volume, way of thinking, different internal and external organs and their functions, orientation in space, creativity, logical reasoning aso, aso... so if on that one single chromosome depend almost everything, then logically, also some behaviour traits could depend also. It would be even weird, if not. The look per se definitly also, as having a male or female look is totaly depending on that exact chromosome.


The paternal chromosome is important but the haplogroup is only a marker with specific SNPs, it does not make a big difference that you have one or the other for the genome.

Rocinante
10-10-2020, 12:12 PM
The paternal chromosome is important but the haplogroup is only a marker with specific SNPs, it does not make a big difference that you have one or the other for the genome.

I thought you liked Rap and Hip-Hop.

Defcon2
10-10-2020, 12:16 PM
I thought you liked Rap and Hip-Hop.

Soy negro, brother, and my favourite hero is CJ.

Rethel
10-10-2020, 12:18 PM
The paternal chromosome is important but the haplogroup is only a marker with specific SNPs, it does not make a big difference that you have one or the other for the genome.

Can you separate both?
Hg is a mark of Y.

MiloshN
10-10-2020, 12:22 PM
traitor :p

nope, my Y dna is cool, but I2a is better :D
Real and native European :P everyone else is a migrant, before or later ...

MandM
10-10-2020, 12:27 PM
nope, my Y dna is cool, but I2a is better :D
Real and native European :P everyone else is a migrant, before or later ...

ma the I2a was borring we gave it rythem and flavour hehe:D

Defcon2
10-10-2020, 12:29 PM
Can you separate both?
Hg is a mark of Y.

It is not necessary, simply that belonging to one haplogroup or another does not give you special and unique powers that others in your environment lack. You inherited a specific haplogroup by chance due to migrations or wars that have occurred, just that.

Illyrius
10-10-2020, 06:08 PM
nope, my Y dna is cool, but I2a is better :D
Real and native European :P everyone else is a migrant, before or later ...

Hehe *screams in paleo siberian

Harkonnen
10-15-2020, 08:14 PM
In one research which was published couple of years ago, and was even discussed on this forum,
was concluded, that one of the subclades of Z93 common in Pakistan inticates higher violence.

It is not so weired at it can seems to be.

Usually people think that Y chromosome is useless. But how it can be useless, if it contains most of the most important personality traits. Being a man or a woman is a huuuuge difference in almost every aspect - brain size, brain function, iq, body size, muscle volume, way of thinking, different internal and external organs and their functions, orientation in space, creativity, logical reasoning aso, aso... so if on that one single chromosome depend almost everything, then logically, also some behaviour traits could depend also. It would be even weird, if not. The look per se definitly also, as having a male or female look is totaly depending on that exact chromosome.




Coincidence, as the same areas just 100 years ago, were much smaller, and they are not pure I-areas. And from archeological data it is known, that R1 EHGans were the tallest in Europe, and rest of folks living in central, western or southern Europe was smaller, even much smaller. If tall stature is combined with some hg, it is certainly R1, not the I. Looking at the map of tallness in Europe supports this. The only region which does not fit, is Bośnia, but it is just a coincidence, as there is a lot of eastern admixture and still many R1s until this day.

R1 EHGs had narrow skulls with small brains. I have literally twice the skull breadth to EHGs

Ion Basescul
10-15-2020, 08:20 PM
I2 makes you noble, handsome, good with womenz and a superior warrior F A C T

I heard the same actually.

Faklon
10-15-2020, 08:24 PM
It means that you have a penis to begin with.

Harkonnen
10-16-2020, 01:01 PM
R1 EHGs had narrow skulls with small brains. I have literally twice the skull breadth to EHGs

I actually presumed the EHGs would be Broadskulls, as it would have made some sense. I couldn't found actual numbers anywhere. Anyway, luckily someone here corrected me that they were dolico narrowskulls, skull breadth only something like 12-13cm's.

Anyway to my point about narrowskulls and small brains. I'm just saying its pretty hard to have large brain volume with 12-13cm skull breadth. You can think it this way, if you add 1cm to front and back, it is obviously going to add less to total skull volume compared if you add 1cm to the sides because tadaa the sides are longer which means that any added breadth to the sides (skullbreadth) means that added breadth adds breadth to longer total distance compared if you add breadth to front and back.

Little IQ questionnaire. To which side would you add 1cm for largest possible total volume area

https://i.ibb.co/ZdvcM4j/1280px-Simple-rectangle-with-height-marked-svg.png (https://ibb.co/qBhmrqS)

Nelju
10-16-2020, 03:09 PM
In your country and in South America at large R1b, E1b1, J2 and Q would make a lot more sense. Don't even know why we have here a Colombian and a Brazilian with R1a-Z93. A statistical anomaly.
I am also R1a-Z93 from Venezuela. Many Crypto Jews migrated to Latam in colonial times, although it might come from other sources too. People usually believe I am from the MENA region.

Drawing-slim
07-22-2021, 01:48 AM
I have opened a thread here asking this same question years ago.
I’m still 100% convinced that it affects the nature of a person. And i think the first letter of the initial Y lineage it will change very little or not at all down the line regardless however many thousands of years or however many clades or subclades will it split into. The nature of that first letter each Y will stay mor or less the same.
But, that’s most likely just my biased way of thinking since i like to believe that “I” produces men of good nature,lol

Armenian Bishop
07-23-2021, 09:24 PM
If YDNA influences us that way, then its reasonable to conclude that MTDNA does that too.

MechtoidAfalouHG
07-23-2021, 10:19 PM
Yes, thats why I look dinarid.

Rethel
07-23-2021, 11:18 PM
If YDNA influences us that way, then its reasonable to conclude that MTDNA does that too.

Nope.

HectorOfTroy
10-13-2021, 04:53 PM
If YDNA influences us that way, then its reasonable to conclude that MTDNA does that too.

MtDNA is the DNA of the mitochondria in your cells, it has less influence than Y DNA i would think which dictates wether you will be man or woman

I'm R1b m269 which bulks me in with the majority of western europe. Not sure how i feel about that. me and my paternal male family members are also tall and look alike

RenaRyuguu
10-13-2021, 04:56 PM
apparently mtdna influences most things and y dna influences looks and risk taking behaviour.

Erronkari
10-13-2021, 04:57 PM
It’s too ancient to influence to me.
In my case doesn’t influence nothing… my Y-dna is Alpine-Celtic and I am the epitome of the woginess…
So in my case at least no hehe.

Alexandro
10-13-2021, 05:01 PM
It’s too ancient to influence to me.
In my case doesn’t influence nothing… my Y-dna is Alpine-Celtic and I am the epitome of the woginess…
So in my case at least no hehe.

Autosomal DNA matters more.

Erronkari
10-13-2021, 05:19 PM
Autosomal DNA matters more.

Exactly!! :thumb001:
Not in the sense 1+1=2 but quite more!! ;)

Erronkari
10-13-2021, 05:26 PM
Autosomal DNA matters more.

Hey, it’s nice to see you again here.
All mates missed you so much! ;)

Alexandro
10-13-2021, 05:45 PM
Hey, it’s nice to see you again here.
All mates missed you so much! ;)

Hola, tio. Pues también me alegro de verte por aquí. ;)

I am checking in on here once in a while nowadays, mostly lurking, so not a regular presence like in the past. Man, just busier these days and don't have a lot of free time. Although it is probably better this way, instead of the boring daily (and maybe out of boredom) check-in.