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Leto
09-21-2020, 07:00 PM
She is from Ventspils (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ventspils), Latvia living in England.

photos (https://ibb.co/album/YT77ZG)

Eurogenes K13:

North_Atlantic 12.70 Pct
Baltic 11.18 Pct
West_Med 10.80 Pct
West_Asian 14.17 Pct
East_Med 20.21 Pct
Red_Sea 2.82 Pct
South_Asian 24.32 Pct
East_Asian 1.99 Pct
Siberian -
Amerindian 0.60 Pct
Oceanian 0.76 Pct
Northeast_African 0.19 Pct
Sub-Saharan 0.26 Pct

Distance to: Renata
5.55875885 Balkan_Gypsy
5.99679081 Romani
23.68396504 Turk_Edirne
24.36380923 Turk_Kardzhali-West
24.99135250 Turk_Kazanlik
25.05306368 Turk_Komotini
25.31949447 Turk_Burgas
25.64171016 Turk_Dobrich
25.94582047 Turk_Targovishte
26.05374174 Bulgarian_Thrace

Target: Renata
Distance: 3.0158% / 3.01579924 | ADC: 0.25x
87.2 Balkan_Gypsy
4.6 Swedish
3.2 Pomak_Plovdiv
3.0 Yemenite_Jewish
1.0 Austroasiatic_Ho
1.0 Bulgarian_Southwest


Eurogenes K15:

North_Sea 4.62 Pct
Atlantic 13.77 Pct
Baltic 7.76 Pct
Eastern_Euro 4.73 Pct
West_Med 6.76 Pct
West_Asian 13.42 Pct
East_Med 17.30 Pct
Red_Sea 3.37 Pct
South_Asian 25.15 Pct
Southeast_Asian 1.90 Pct
Siberian -
Amerindian 0.37 Pct
Oceanian 0.60 Pct
Northeast_African 0.17 Pct
Sub-Saharan 0.09 Pct


Dodecad K12b:

Population
Gedrosia 13.06 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African 0.18 Pct
Southeast_Asian 0.40 Pct
Atlantic_Med 13.76 Pct
North_European 17.48 Pct
South_Asian 21.02 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 7.65 Pct
East_Asian 1.42 Pct
Caucasus 25.03 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Distance to: Renata
4.61259146 Balkan_Gypsy
23.00186297 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
23.28949978 Turk_Northwest
23.34120177 Tajik_Herat
23.82719455 Turkmen_Iran
23.90576081 Iran_Khorasan
24.11892618 Turk_Southwest
24.31739501 Tajik_Tajikistan
24.35457862 Parsi_India
24.37970878 Turk_West_BlackSea

Target: Renata
Distance: 2.6349% / 2.63487053 | ADC: 0.25x
92.4 Balkan_Gypsy
6.2 Mordovian
1.2 Yemen_Jews
0.2 Pulliyar


HarappaWorld:

S-Indian 20.25 Pct
Baloch 14.69 Pct
Caucasian 23.04 Pct
NE-Euro 18.70 Pct
SE-Asian 1.03 Pct
Siberian -
NE-Asian 0.76 Pct
Papuan 0.49 Pct
American 0.60 Pct
Beringian -
Mediterranean 12.48 Pct
SW-Asian 7.96 Pct
San -
E-African -
Pygmy -
W-African -

Distance to: Renata
6.55371650 romanian-b
24.99370121 pashtun
25.24006735 turkmen
26.06546182 tajik
26.12552775 turk-aydin
26.89878622 bene-israel-jew
27.31286693 ashkenazi
27.44413416 singapore-indian-d
27.81406479 ashkenazy-jew
29.69926767 romanian-a

Target: Renata
Distance: 1.7321% / 1.73205762 | ADC: 0.25x
73.6 romanian-b
15.0 singapore-indian-d
3.2 qatari
3.2 romanian-a
3.0 urkarah
2.0 pashtun
Lucas
09-21-2020, 07:05 PM
She is from Ventspils (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ventspils), Latvia living in England.

photos (https://ibb.co/album/YT77ZG)



Nice.
Chris596
09-21-2020, 07:09 PM
Interesting. In Latvia, generally there's little to no mixing between locals and Gypsies, right?
Leto
09-21-2020, 07:12 PM
Interesting. In Latvia, generally there's little to no mixing between locals and Gypsies, right?
Well, the Gypsy community over there is much smaller than in Balkan countries percentage-wise and I believe they're a bit more North European on average than their Balkan counterparts. But as always, Gypsies rarely mix with non-Gypsies. I'd probably mix with her and Indo-Europeanize her ancestry a little more :swl She is not bad looking.
CommonSense
09-21-2020, 07:43 PM
Her European admix is probably percentually the same as of the Balkan Gypsies, but that amixture is from a more northern source hence the higher North Atlantic and Baltic DNA compared to the population referrence.
Lucas
09-21-2020, 07:45 PM
I'd probably mix with her and Indo-Europeanize her ancestry a little more :swl She is not bad looking.

We have the same taste:)
Leto
09-21-2020, 07:49 PM
We have the same taste:)
Well, I generally prefer light women, not too much darker than me (although not extremely pale either) but that being said there are good looking individuals in dark countries/nations too. For a Gypsy she is sure above the average.
Leto
09-22-2020, 05:35 PM
Her European admix is probably percentually the same as of the Balkan Gypsies, but that amixture is from a more northern source hence the higher North Atlantic and Baltic DNA compared to the population referrence.
My Balkan_Gypsy average (based on the kits you found):

Atlantic_Med 14.71 (Renata - 13.76)
North_European 13.79 (Renata - 17.48)

HarappaWorld's Roma_Romania:

NE-Euro 14.02 (Renata - 18.70)
Mediterranean 14.23 (Renata - 12.48)

Euro K13 Balkan_Gypsy (again, based on the samples you found):

North_Atlantic 9.73 (Renata - 12.70)
Baltic 9.53 (Renata - 11.18)
West_Med 12.55 (Renata - 10.80)

Overall, she is clearly more North European, although the different isn't huge. She's far from being half Latvian or what one would except to see in Baltic/NE European Gypsies. Perhaps there are such "whitewashed" communities in Finland or Sweden, I've never seen such individuals myself.
Ion Basescul
09-22-2020, 05:50 PM
She is from Ventspils (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ventspils)



Eurogenes K13:

North_Atlantic 12.70 Pct
Baltic 11.18 Pct
West_Med 10.80 Pct
West_Asian 14.17 Pct
East_Med 20.21 Pct
Red_Sea 2.82 Pct
South_Asian 24.32 Pct
East_Asian 1.99 Pct
Siberian -
Amerindian 0.60 Pct
Oceanian 0.76 Pct
Northeast_African 0.19 Pct
Sub-Saharan 0.26 Pct


Similar to the ones from R. Moldova

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan


10.85
8.12
13.85
16.55
18.75
2.37
25.19
1.34
1.65
0.21
0.52
0.58
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11.57
12.62
11.32
15.32
17.97
2.29
23.98
0
2.33
0
1.46
1.12
0

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Those from Romania (Wallachia region) are also not that far off.

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan


5.66
14.80
12.28
18.02
16.44
3.01
25.06
2.61
0.44
0
1.38
0.09
0.19


15.84
12.72
15.22
14.37
15.69
2.70
20.18
0.98
0
0
1.65
0.44
0.20


11.90
9.19
10.45
14.64
22.38
1.50
24.29
1.34
2.01
0.42
0.96
0.47
0.45


12.98
9.32
15.56
17.09
20.36
2.48
19.03
0
0.86
0.44
1.17
0.70
0

</tbody>
</google-sheets-html-origin>
Leto
09-22-2020, 05:54 PM
Similar to the ones from R. Moldova

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan


10.85
8.12
13.85
16.55
18.75
2.37
25.19
1.34
1.65
0.21
0.52
0.58
0


11.57
12.62
11.32
15.32
17.97
2.29
23.98
0
2.33
0
1.46
1.12
0

</tbody>
</google-sheets-html-origin>
Those from Romania (Wallachia region) are also not that far off.

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan


5.66
14.80
12.28
18.02
16.44
3.01
25.06
2.61
0.44
0
1.38
0.09
0.19


15.84
12.72
15.22
14.37
15.69
2.70
20.18
0.98
0
0
1.65
0.44
0.20


11.90
9.19
10.45
14.64
22.38
1.50
24.29
1.34
2.01
0.42
0.96
0.47
0.45


12.98
9.32
15.56
17.09
20.36
2.48
19.03
0
0.86
0.44
1.17
0.70
0

</tbody>
</google-sheets-html-origin>
A Gypsy from Bulgaria
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?320262-South-Slavic-amp-neighbours-gedmatch-results-vol-2&p=6901324&viewfull=1#post6901324
Notably less North European than the OP.
Mortimer
10-02-2020, 01:05 AM
Good thread