myOrigins 3.0 Release

[Kaspias]

I received this mail today:

https://i.ibb.co/MBgLt67/1-vert.jpg

[Adamm]

Does that mean they already started updating results or do they start at the end of the week?

[Kaspias]

Does that mean they already started updating results or do they start at the end of the week?

Тhey will start this week and it will be finished by the end of the week for the majority of users. I predict we will receive it between Friday and Sunday.

[Annihilus]

this is gonna be fun

[Mortimer]

Good news

[Kyp]

Will I get an update even though I only uploaded raw data?

[Kaspias]

Will I get an update even though I only uploaded raw data?

Yes.

[Chris596]

Wow! Finally! :D I'm really excited

[gixajo]

MyOrigins is FTDNA?

[walid]

https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/028/007/Screen_Shot_2018-12-31_at_1.19.26_PM.jpg

us months later again

[Kaspias]

MyOrigins is FTDNA?

Yes.


https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/028/007/Screen_Shot_2018-12-31_at_1.19.26_PM.jpg

us months later again

Not this time I suppose :D

[Chris596]

Kaspias, based on my various DNA tests and GEDmatch, etc. results, what is going to change in my case, in your opinion?
Most DNA tests I've taken so far, have been chaotic and all over the place. Here's what I mean:

-Myheritage (this has been the worst so far imo, my original results before the reupload): 95.2% Balkan, 3.6% Scandinavian, 1.2% Ashkenazi;
-Geneplaza K29: 50.5% Southern Slavic, 11.2% Eastern Slavic, 14.7% Sicilian, 9.2% Greek-Albanian, 5.6% Northwest European, 4.8% Tatar, 4.0% Caucasian;
-DNA.Land: 43% North Slavic, 33% South-Central European, 12% Balkan, 7.8% West Asian/Caucasian, 3.9% Ashkenazi/Levantine, 1.3% Northwest European;
-LivingDNA: 95% Europe, 5% Near East (this was changed from 2% to 5%)

And here's my FTDNA result
-FTDNA MyOrigins 2.0: 54% Southeast Europe, 24% East Europe, 18% West & Central Europe, 2% Ashkenazi, 2% Northeast Asia, 1% Southeast Asia;


I have many theories, but here's what I'm pretty sure about:
- Most of my ancestry is from the Balkans as many tests suggest it, probably 60-70% or more
- I'm also sure about the West Asian/Caucasian ancestry as well, so far the majority of my results suggest that I have some, more than likely (and my father's history)
- I think the Ashkenazi ancestry is also true, but it's only consistent in DNA tests, not on GEDmatch or Admix Studio, etc.
- I'm sure that I have some minor East Asian ancestry as well (or from historical Turkestan), around 1-2% which is again, not really consistent in DNA tests but in various Admixture calculators
- Western Euro ancestry is still a mistery, if I really have some, it's probably 1% or idk, the rest must be Central European



So I have no idea what to expect from this update. Are they going to give me countries like Serbia, Romania, etc?

[Thracian]

I will post my results when I get home but it still sucks. I don't know how can I get 34 % Western Slavic and 26 % Italian (with Maltese and Sic. 2%) but just 5% Balkan&Greek? I still have 28% Anatolian. It is similar with LivingDNA now.

[Leto]

All my kits have been updated!

My new results:

Europe 100%
- East Slavic 67%
- West Slavic 33%

My father's new results:

Europe 100%
- West Slavic 51%
- East Slavic 23%
- Baltic 26%

My mother's new results:

Europe 98%
- East Slavic 95%
- Finnish 3%
- Ireland <1%
Asia <2%
- Western Siberian Plains <2%

My brother-in-law's new results:

Europe 99%
- East Slavic 51%
- West Slavic 25%
- Baltic 10%
- Finnish 7%
- Greece & Balkans 6%
Asia <1%
- Western Siberian Plains <1%

[Dušan]

https://i.imgur.com/mu6fyAq.png

:cool: :lol:

[Ford]

https://i.imgur.com/5dk93E7.png

[El_Abominacion]

I just got my update, this is the most horrendous result i've ever gotten on any site by a long shot. 7% North Caucasus? No Southern European or Northern Indian at all??? Not even 6% East/Southeast Asian? 47% Eastern Indian?

What an absolute joke, I hope they revert it lmao


https://i.gyazo.com/d495e64aa87da7a3d6eb946bf1fa1d04.png
https://i.gyazo.com/3c1b927f7b1d5ba0b16635453ad681e9.png
https://i.gyazo.com/c961e132b050ff890b3c86580a0f00ef.png

[Leto]

Looks like for us East Slavs (and I assume Polish people too) it is generally not bad. Simplistic but not bad.
Here are the results of the guy silentkiller who is Russian (1/4 Belarusian, 1/4 Russian from Siberia, 1/2 Central Russian):

Europe 100%
- West Slavic 77%
- East Slavic 11%
- Baltic 11%
- Greece & Balkan <1%
- Scandinavian <1%

[Ford]

I just got my update, this is the most horrendous result i've ever gotten on any site by a long shot.

Yeah, the results are all over the place lol

[Ion Basescul]

Only 37% Moldovan according to their breakdown. Ok then :rolleyes:

https://i.ibb.co/m4kPcSQ/image.png

[Mr.G]

I guess if we look at it like 54% Western Europe/23% Eastern Europe/22% Southern Europe - then this update is okay for me. But overall, it does not look like an improvement over 2.0, just different.


https://i.imgur.com/BA8CTX3.png

[Kriptc06]

https://i.imgur.com/iDX1Xyh.png

Europe 77%

Central Europe 41%
Italian Peninsula 21%
Greece & Balkans 13%
East Slavic <2%
Ashkenazi Jewish <1%

Americas 9%

Amerindian – Andes & Caribbean 6%
Amerindian – Central America 3%

Middle East 8%

Maghreb & Egypt 8%

Africa 6%

Southern Congo Basin 4%
Northern Ethiopia & Somalia <2%
Western Lake Victoria Basin <1%

Asia <1%

Indian Subcontinent Eastern India <1%

[waam]

It's kinda bad

Middle East
95%

Middle East
Anatolia, Armenia, & Mesopotamia 38%
Northern Levant 23%
Sephardic Jewish 12%

Arabia
Yemenite Jewish 14%

Middle East Jewish
Mizrahi Jewish 5%

North Africa
Maghreb & Egypt <2%

Europe 5%

Southern Europe
Italian Peninsula 4%

European Jewish
Ashkenazi Jewish <2%

[Lucas]

My results 3.0!

Better.

https://i.imgur.com/VsFTPm0.png

[Rgvgjhvv]

https://i.ibb.co/CBfJyBG/Screen-Shot-2020-09-22-at-10-53-24-AM.png
https://i.ibb.co/YDgxhkh/Screen-Shot-2020-09-22-at-10-53-45-AM.png

[Ion Basescul]

Looks like for us East Slavs (and I assume Polish people too) it is generally not bad. Simplistic but not bad.
Here are the results of the guy silentkiller who is Russian (1/4 Belarusian, 1/4 Russian from Siberia, 1/2 Central Russian):

Europe 100%
- West Slavic 77%
- East Slavic 11%
- Baltic 11%
- Greece & Balkan <1%
- Scandinavian <1%

How did you get his results? I was trying to check the results of one match whom I know from 23andme, but it said that I am not allowed while the update is in progress.

[Mingle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/755534704073113710/757977817744146523/unknown.png?width=878&height=564

Asia 77%

West Central Asia
• Afghanistan & Northern Pakistan 30%
• Indus Valley 29%

Indian Subcontinent
• Southern India 9%
• Western India 6%
• Northern India 4%

Middle East 14%

Middle East
• Anatolia, Armenia, & Mesopotamia 8%

Caucasus
• Southern Caucasus 6%

Europe 9%

Eastern Europe
• Magyar 6%
• East Slavic <2%

Western Europe
• Scandinavia <2%

[Kriptc06]

It's kinda bad

Middle East
very% jewish

Kinda?! LMAO

[Leto]

How did you get his results? I was trying to check the results of one match whom I know from 23andme, but it said that I am not allowed while the update is in progress.
I know the guy personally and asked him to show it to me.

[Creoda]

My result:

https://i.postimg.cc/PfvRfTmd/Opera-Snapshot-2020-09-23-003115-www-familytreedna-com.png


Father's result:

https://i.postimg.cc/Hn3cDfWR/Opera-Snapshot-2020-09-23-002322-www-familytreedna-com.png

[Rgvgjhvv]

This update is like MyHeritage level now, lol.

[Grace O'Malley]

Update for me and my brother.

Mine

https://i.imgur.com/x7dy0pv.png

Brother

https://i.imgur.com/4o2zDcb.png

[Thambi]

https://i.imgur.com/nAkeIQO.png

[Ion Basescul]

All my kits have been updated!

My new results:

Europe 100%
- East Slavic 67%
- West Slavic 33%

My father's new results:

Europe 100%
- West Slavic 51%
- East Slavic 23%
- Baltic 26%

My mother's new results:

Europe 98%
- East Slavic 95%
- Finnish 3%
- Ireland <1%
Asia <2%
- Western Siberian Plains <2%

My brother-in-law's new results:

Europe 99%
- East Slavic 51%
- West Slavic 25%
- Baltic 10%
- Finnish 7%
- Greece & Balkans 6%
Asia <1%
- Western Siberian Plains <1%

Their East Slavic references have decent East Asian/Siberian levels by the look of it. 50% Russian, 50% Uzbek guy got 69% East Slavic.

https://i.ibb.co/bF6MHBZ/9-F361-B92-65-EF-4-D4-B-8025-64-F0318-A0-BF3.jpg

His 23andme and LivingDNA are more accurate here

https://anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?14203-MyOrigin-3-0-Update&p=702120&viewfull=1#post702120
https://anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?19077-Living-DNA-members-update&p=644190#post644190
https://anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?20683-Kazakh-23andMe

[andre]

Not that bad.

Greece & Balkans
68%
Magyar
21%
West Slavic
7%
East Slavic
2%
Ashkenazi Jewish
<2%

I'm 25% Magyar, 3% Ashkenazi jew and other Romanian.

[Chris596]

Okay, now I'm utterly confused LOL

So I'm really 3% Scandinavian? Also, nothing from Asia, at all. The Balkan and the Slavic components are accurate, I guess. I think the Italian is also something from the Balkans in my case. The Jewish is also there so I think I can pretty much confirm it at this point.

https://i.imgur.com/yHjcNsS.png

I'm just an Euromutt

100% European:

-44% Greece & Balkans
-30% West Slavic
-15% Italian
-9% Baltic
-3% Scandinavia
-1% Ashkenazi Jewish

[Sp_loa]

https://i.ibb.co/L0L3bSJ/Screen-Shot-2020-09-22-at-6-14-19-PM.png

https://i.ibb.co/vwmXX29/Screen-Shot-2020-09-22-at-6-14-37-PM.png

I just do not know what to think.

[Annihilus]

Henlo frens, I gib you my dna

https://i.imgur.com/u7cTsBV.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/Sdg4hZd.jpg

I scored Magyar yey

[Kaspias]

https://i.ibb.co/6y3hBMp/Ads-z.png

Europe 67%

Southern Europe

Greece & The Balkans 50%
Malta & Sicily <2%

Eastern Europe

Magyar 15%
Ashkenazi Jewish <1

Middle East 27%

Anatolia, Armenia & Mesopotamia 26%
Mizrahi Jewish <1%
Yemenite Jewish <1%

Asia 6%

Mongolia 4%
Western Siberian Plains <2%

[Lucas]

Uh father result is cool now:)

https://i.imgur.com/HwK2vyr.png


mother

https://i.imgur.com/QSOC2jV.png

[Kaspias]

.

You should only trust what Gedmatch/G25 gives you. The update of FTDNA is just for fun. I personally don't believe you have actual Balkan(Slavic speaker) or Armenian or Jew or anything else...

Because your results are not off enough to prove that you have a 3th admix.

[CommonSense]

https://i.ibb.co/3pRvpR3/image.png

[Leto]

Their East Slavic references have decent East Asian/Siberian levels by the look of it. 50% Russian, 50% Uzbek guy got 69% East Slavic.

Is that Bakha?

[Leto]

Uh father result is cool now:)

[IMG]https://i.imgur.com/HwK2vyr.png


mother

[img]https://i.imgur.com/QSOC2jV.png
Your folks are zero East Slavic.

[Pedro Ruben]

https://i.imgur.com/Ep8n0C7.jpg

Europe 96%
Southern Europe
- Iberian Peninsula 79%
- Sardinia 9%
Western Europe
- Ireland 8%

Middle East <4%
North Africa
- Maghreb & Egypt <4%

Africa <1%
West Africa
- Liberia & Ivory Coast <1%

[Ion Basescul]

Uh father result is cool now:)




mother

https://i.imgur.com/QSOC2jV.png

What does your mom score on K13 for example? I am wondering how a 100% West Slav looks like by FTDNA's definition. My guess would be that the difference between her North Atlantic and Baltic values are lower than for you. This is why you score Baltic. Is that correct?

[Leto]

Bakha is around 11-12% East Eurasian on Gedmatch, his supposed Uzbek side isn't typical.

[Ion Basescul]

Is that Bakha?

No idea, he goes by the username of Buxuro. E1b1b1a1b haplo

[Dunai]

Wow, will give this company kudos for being the first to finally create a Magyar category, so I'm really excited for that. I just gave a click on my uploaded results and now I get a loading screen (Pending Results continuous loading), probably should finish in a few hours, at least I hope so. Otherwise some of the results seem so off to other users, as if they have put little effort into, that's why I also don't have the highest expectations for my results.

[Annihilus]

Wow, will give this company kudos for being the first to finally create a Magyar category, so I'm really excited for that. I just gave a click on my uploaded results and now I get a loading screen (Pending Results continuous loading), probably should finish in a few hours, at least I hope so. Otherwise some of the results seem so off to other users, as if they have put little effort into, that's why I also don't have the highest expectations for my results.

few mins top

[Ford]

Actually seems to be pretty good for Eastern and Western Europe from what I can see.

[Lucas]

What does your mom score on K13 for example? I am wondering how a 100% West Slav looks like by FTDNA's definition. My guess would be that the difference between her North Atlantic and Baltic values are lower than for you. This is why you score Baltic. Is that correct?

This is quite surprising I must say... I wondered she will get few % of Greece and Balkans like me but no.

[Adamm]

I'm not happy with the results, it doesn't make sense to merge the maghreb with the egypt region as are they two distinct populations (autosomal-wise), and again we see this emphasize upon Jewish references which makes many people especially from East Med and North Africa get these Jewish percentages, first it was the over valuated Sephardic Jewish cluster and now we see Mizrahi and Yemenite Jews popping up which doesn't make sense at all. Also the European percentages don't make sense, it's probably some Anatolian farmer component being red as European. At least 23andMe is much better.

https://i.imgur.com/7TLKRQc.png

[Ritz06]

This is so much worse!


Europe
88% Western Europe

Scandinavia 39%

Central Europe 7%

Ireland 4%

Italian Peninsula 38%

Middle East 7%

Southern Caucasus 6%

Arabian Peninsula
<1%

Asia 5%

Indus Valley 4%

Myanmar<1%


why so much italian?

old results:

https://i.imgur.com/OQ6ZrGl.png

[Leto]

No idea, he goes by the username of Buxuro. E1b1b1a1b haplo
Yes, it's Bakha. Buxoro means Bukhara (a city in Uzbekistan where his father was from).

[Kaspias]

https://i.ibb.co/6y3hBMp/Ads-z.png

Europe 67%

Southern Europe

Greece & The Balkans 50%
Malta & Sicily <2%

Eastern Europe

Magyar 15%
Ashkenazi Jewish <1

Middle East 27%

Anatolia, Armenia & Mesopotamia 26%
Mizrahi Jewish <1%
Yemenite Jewish <1%

Asia 6%

Mongolia 4%
Western Siberian Plains <2%

Father:

33% Italian Peninsula, 18% Greece & The Balkans, 7% Scandinavia / 3% Northern Caucasus / 30% Anatolia, Armenia, Mesopotamia, <1% Druze / 4% Southern Siberia, 4% Western Siberian Plains, <1% Central & Eastern Siberia.

[waam]

I'm not happy with the results, it doesn't make sense to merge the maghreb with the egypt region as are they two distinct populations (autosomal-wise), and again we see this emphasize upon Jewish references which makes many people especially from East Med and North Africa get these Jewish percentages, first it was the over valuated Sephardic Jewish cluster and now we see Mizrahi and Yemenite Jews popping up which doesn't make sense at all. Also the European percentages don't make sense, it's probably some Anatolian farmer component being red as European. At least 23andMe is much better.

https://i.imgur.com/7TLKRQc.png

What's even worse is the emphasis on the Jewish groups made it messier even for us Jews lol. :picard1:

[Daco Celtic]

Bizarre Results. According to this I'm less than 2% Romanian (Balkan/Greece) but 22% Italian, 8% West Slavic, etc. Perhaps the strangest results I've ever received from a DNA test.

https://i.imgur.com/J1WCeVl.jpg

Europe 95%
Ireland 43%
Scandinavia12%
Central Europe5%

Italian Peninsula 13%
Malta & Sicily 7%
Greece & Balkans<2%

West Slavic 8%
Baltic 5%
Middle East 5%

AncestyDNA for comparison

https://i.imgur.com/MO6fJr0.jpg

[Dunai]

Does anyone know why am I being asked to unlock the possibility to verify MyOrigins percentages by charging me $19? I thought this site gives ancestry results for free. I already uploaded my 23andMe raw data back in 2019.

[Chryssie Khanate]

Everything seems legit except for Italian Peninsula which is kinda random. I always get Scandinavian too, even though I have no idea where I have "recent" ancestors from there.

Great Britain 33%
Ireland 32%
West Slavic 15%
Scandinavia 10%
Italian Peninsula 10%

[Kriptc06]

Does anyone know why am I being asked to unlock the possibility to verify MyOrigins percentages by charging me $19? I thought this site gives ancestry results for free. I already uploaded my 23andMe raw data back in 2019.

as far as I remember, only matches are free, ethnicity estimates are indeed 19 US$

[Jana]

My Father's results

https://i.imgur.com/1NIaYBr.png
https://i.imgur.com/4SDxIwV.png

[Ion Basescul]

Does anyone know why am I being asked to unlock the possibility to verify MyOrigins percentages by charging me $19? I thought this site gives ancestry results for free. I already uploaded my 23andMe raw data back in 2019.

I personally uploaded from 23andme several years ago when it was free. And they have never asked for a fee since.

[andre]

Father:

33% Italian Peninsula, 18% Greece & The Balkans, 7% Scandinavia / 3% Northern Caucasus / 30% Anatolia, Armenia, Mesopotamia, <1% Druze / 4% Southern Siberia, 4% Western Siberian Plains, <1% Central & Eastern Siberia.

Try with 0.25x dist. :)

[Jana]

My mother's results - her biggest chunk of ancestry is 25% British :rofl:

https://i.imgur.com/jKfCQec.png
https://i.imgur.com/v3BYyu1.png
https://i.imgur.com/KyJ3Syq.png

[PaleoEuropean]

I deleted myheritage and FTDNA, both are meh.

[frankhammer]

In AncestryDNA's latest release, I OD'ed on Scottish. In this update FT v3.0, I have no English left. :shrug:

Bonus is that I now have a little exotic "hungarian" :laugh: (and Greek-Balkan, Scandinavian and Iberian)

https://i.imgur.com/okmknQ3.png

[Mr.G]

This company needs to hire Kaspias to fix this debacle fast.

[Slavic Italian]

Great Britain 32%

Central Europe 21%

Italian Peninsula 30%

Magyar 8%

West Slavic 3%

Baltic 5%

Middle East Jewish <1%

North Africa Maghreb & Egypt <1%

[gixajo]

My old results.

https://i.imgur.com/79Dfd1z.jpg

My new results.

https://i.imgur.com/qpIfpEI.png

[Jana]

Stears results - 0% Magyar, over 30% Giovanni xD

https://i.imgur.com/DdEV2nX.png
https://i.imgur.com/EHU3UbZ.png
https://i.imgur.com/1ejOdFe.png
https://i.imgur.com/ga1eV28.png

[Mr.G]

Does anyone know why am I being asked to unlock the possibility to verify MyOrigins percentages by charging me $19? I thought this site gives ancestry results for free. I already uploaded my 23andMe raw data back in 2019.

If I remember correctly I did pay something like $19 for my upload, maybe it was 1.5 - 2 years ago. No additional charge for the new update.

[gixajo]

In AncestryDNA's latest release, I OD'ed on Scottish. In this update FT v3.0, I have no English left. :shrug:

Bonus is that I now have a little exotic "hungarian" :laugh: (and Greek-Balkan, Scandinavian and Iberian)

g]

Wow, the total sum of your percentages=101%, you must be overweight.

[Chaos One]

Stears results - 0% Magyar, over 30% Giovanni xD

And now I'm 5% Magyar hahahah

I'm almost sure they are using some Proto Uralic/Turkic to make it, since my Asian went to 0% but now I do have Magyar (they fit it):

New results:

75% Euro

50% Iberian Peninsula (Where's my Italian?)
16% Greece and Balkans (WTF)
5% Magyar (lol)
4% Great Britain (?)

9% North African
9% SSA (1% down)
7% Native American
1% BANGLADESHI (noise)

[ShieldWolf]

https://i.imgur.com/Kf3T9d0.jpg

Simplistic, but otherwise pretty accurate for me.

[Slavic Italian]

These tests make me more and more Germanic.

[Leto]

Stears results - 0% Magyar, over 30% Giovanni xD

He is 100% assimilated xD I can hear Turul crying for Stears :swl

[Lucas]

My old results.

https://i.imgur.com/79Dfd1z.jpg

My new results.

https://i.imgur.com/qpIfpEI.png

Basque percentage is correct for you?

[Lucas]

Stears results - 0% Magyar, over 30% Giovanni xD

https://i.imgur.com/DdEV2nX.png
https://i.imgur.com/EHU3UbZ.png
https://i.imgur.com/1ejOdFe.png
https://i.imgur.com/ga1eV28.png

I can say old Pannonian (Italian-like Szolad samples) mixed with Slav. With tiny Conqueror elite (Finn and Caucasus).

[Chris596]

He is 100% assimilated xD I can hear Turul crying for Stears :swl

Yeah just like me xD

[Slavic Italian]

Here is my raw data upload

Great Britain 31%

Italian Peninsula 29%

Magyar 12%

West Slavic 7%

East Slavic <1%

Baltic 3%

Middle East<2%

Middle East Jewish


Mizrahi Jewish<1%



Maghreb & Egypt <1%

[Chaos One]

So, Hungarians with no clear Asian background score 0% Magyar

While I do have SC/Central Asian background and do score.

Now just do the math.

[Jana]

My results - should I apply for Irish citizenship? hahah

https://i.imgur.com/Y98BF9K.png
https://i.imgur.com/GCfE72r.png
https://i.imgur.com/NNufgKe.png

[Kaspias]

This company needs to hire Kaspias to fix this debacle fast.

Ready for mission :D

[Ion Basescul]

Ready for mission :D

50 Turkish subregions incoming

[El_Abominacion]

Even for full Euros this update looks atrocious. What were they doing this whole time :confused:

[frankhammer]

Wow, the total sum of your percentages=101%, you must be overweight.

101% European mate. Just a little more honky than you :laugh:

[Chaos One]

Even for full Euros this update looks atrocious. What were they doing this whole time :confused:

The only numbers I do believe are those "neutral"/non Euro related like SSA, North African and Native. Euro and Asian results are totally messed up.

[Kaspias]

50 Turkish subregions incoming

:D :D

Actually 7 for Turkey, 7 for Greece, 3 for Bulgaria, 3 from Macedonia what I would do.

Joke aside if they would hire a few people from here they could reach the most effective admixture breakdown level compared to other companies. It is kind of funny this update took such a long time and people are receiving a salary in exchange for this.

[Kaspias]

@Deniz

https://i.ibb.co/b6vP2JM/Deniz.png

Italian Peninsula 47%
Malta & Sicily 4%
Greece & The Balkans 2%
Iberian Peninsula 2%

East Slavic 18%
Magyar 11%
West Slavic 1%

Baltic 10%

Great Britain 3%

Finland 1%

Anatolia, Armenia & Mesopotamia 1%
Mizrahi Jewish 1%

Central & Eastern Siberia 2%

[Luso]

My New results:
https://i.imgur.com/tqY4aik.png

https://i.imgur.com/wIiuUTF.png


My Old Results

https://i.imgur.com/7U4Z02Z.png

[El_Abominacion]

The only numbers I do believe are those "neutral"/non Euro related like SSA, North African and Native. Euro and Asian results are totally messed up.

I doubt even that. They gave me a load of MENA which I shouldn't have any of and my African is too low

[Turul Karom]

My results look crazy-strange. I do score Magyar, but my native American, West Asian, and Siberian scores are gone. Also, it looks like my % adds up to 101%.......

More oddities:

I now score Maltese but not Italian?

I now score Irish but not Great Britain or English?

I now score 20% Scandinavia? My last update had under 10% Scandinavian! loooooooooooool

What a silly, worthless update 3.0 has been; my scores reflect the ridiculous nature of the scores of Stears, Feiichy and Chris. Also, I believe I am one of the only Hungarians to have a even a somewhat notable Magyar score (let alone having one at all) despite proven Central Asian and Siberian results in other Hungarian posters.......

https://i.imgur.com/pqT6q8p.png

https://i.imgur.com/3flcPNC.png

https://i.imgur.com/Mp5jN15.png

[Lemminkäinen]

I have Finnish, Baltic including Estonia, Magyar and Italian, but I reveal percentages after I have Estonian and Swedish results. The Italian is of course due to a methodical error.

[Albannach]

Pardon my French, but MyOrigins really is a load of old bollocks.

https://i.imgur.com/cAd0H2F.png

[Leto]

Turul Karom is 100% European. Oh well :rolleyes:

[Turul Karom]

Turul Karom is 100% European. Oh well :rolleyes:

Ah, yes. The Magyar, Finnish, etc results are implicitly "European" based on the word of the fine folks who slapped this together.

Also, I'm not 100% Euro, I am 101% Euro, lol.

I find it particularly odd that all of the other results are gone and that now I suddenly have this Irish, Maltese, etc without GB/English or Italian.

[Lemminkäinen]

My results look crazy-strange. I do score Magyar, but my native American, West Asian, and Siberian scores are gone. Also, it looks like my % adds up to 101%.......

More oddities:

I now score Maltese but not Italian?

I now score Irish but not Great Britain or English?

I now score 20% Scandinavia? My last update had under 10% Scandinavian! loooooooooooool

What a silly, worthless update 3.0 has been; my scores reflect the ridiculous nature of the scores of Stears, Feiichy and Chris. Also, I believe I am one of the only Hungarians to have a even a somewhat notable Magyar score (let alone having one at all) despite proven Central Asian and Siberian results in other Hungarian posters.......

https://i.imgur.com/pqT6q8p.png

https://i.imgur.com/3flcPNC.png

https://i.imgur.com/Mp5jN15.png

They are idiots, because they had to create a pure Hollywood Vikings (inter alia) by locating the whole Scandinavia to an ideological location. That is why I want to see pure Swedish result. They will not be purely Scandinavian :). And this isn't fair for them.

[Armatus]

https://i.imgur.com/EJQWPGt.png

I am 0% Central European, apparently I am not a German, but a Scandinavian Brit with some Gigolo and Gopnik genes.

[Kyp]

Anybody else having problems with the site loading currently?

[Dunai]

Everybody seems to be scoring Magyar, even Brazilians, except: the goddamn Magyars themselves :rofl:

[Leto]

Ah, yes. The Magyar, Finnish, etc results are implicitly "European" based on the word of the fine folks who slapped this together.

Yes, they are European. European countries that plot in Europe genetically as well. Only a small minority of them will see themselves closer to fucking Xinjiang than to their immediate neighbors. Now go the fuck ahead and write me a big-ass post in response.

[Lucas]

Everybody seems to be scoring Magyar, even Brazilians, except: the goddamn Magyars themselves :rofl:

Yep, my father 5%:)

[gixajo]

I have Finnish, Baltic including Estonia, Magyar and Italian, but I reveal percentages after I have Estonian and Swedish results. The Italian is of course due to a methodical error.

The Italian is a methodic error and Magyar is legit?

[Kriptc06]

These tests make me more and more Germanic.

me too, suddenly I feel like invading Rome

[gixajo]

Everybody seems to be scoring Magyar, even Brazilians, except: the goddamn Magyars themselves :rofl:

So I must be Magyar, because I scored 0%.

[Ion Basescul]

Everybody seems to be scoring Magyar, even Brazilians, except: the goddamn Magyars themselves :rofl:

Considering that andre gets almost exactly as much Hungarian as his ancestry on paper, something tells me that their Hungarians are mainly from Romania, hence a bit different from you over in Hungary.

[Slavic Italian]

So I must be Magyar, because I scored 0%.

With this company it is Magyar. With Ancestry DNA it is Scottish.

[Thracian]

Eastern Europe
West Slavic
34%
Southern Europe
Italian Peninsula
24%
Greece & Balkans
5%
Malta & Sicily
info
<2%
Anatolia, Armenia, & Mesopotamia
28%
Northern Levant
6%
Western Siberian Plains
info
<2%

[Dunai]

Considering that andre gets almost exactly as much Hungarian as his ancestry on paper, something tells me that their Hungarians are mainly from Romania, hence a bit different from you over in Hungary.

I wouldn't even try to speculate because the whole attribution of percentages and ethnicities seems so random on this calculator. Nothing beats Gedmatch yet, since that at least keeps giving consistent results.

[gixajo]

Well, as far as i know, for Spaniards and Portugueses this V3 is not so bad.

[Kyp]

Father:

Anatolia, Armenia, & Mesopotamia
68%
Northern Levant
18%

Indus Valley
6%

Mongolia
6%

Baltic
<2%
West Slavic
<1%


Looks like they again have no Iranian reference at all included unfortunately.

[michal3141]

I also have some Magyars :)

Europe
100%

Eastern Europe

West Slavic
61%

East Slavic
18%

Magyar
14%

Baltic

Baltic
8%

[Turul Karom]

They are idiots, because they had to create a pure Hollywood Vikings (inter alia) by locating the whole Scandinavia to an ideological location. That is why I want to see pure Swedish result. They will not be purely Scandinavian :). And this isn't fair for them.

Yet they cut out Finland? Interesting political move, I guess, haha.


Yes, they are European. European countries that plot in Europe genetically as well. Only a small minority of them will see themselves closer to fucking Xinjiang than to their immediate neighbors. Now go the fuck ahead and write me a big-ass post in response.

Geez bro, take a breather and relax for a minute.

[Mingle]

So, Hungarians with no clear Asian background score 0% Magyar

While I do have SC/Central Asian background and do score.

Now just do the math.
What do you mean? Countless people with 0 connection to Hungary or SC/Central Asia score Magyar.

[Ion Basescul]

What do you mean? Countless people with 0 connection to Hungary or SC/Central Asia score Magyar.

Having a separate component for a people who are basically a mix of Balkan, Slavic and Germanic was a bad idea from the start, because their neighbours will keep scoring it. And apparently the algorithm for Hungarians themselves prefers to pick the said 3 components separately, instead of assigning a huge chunk of Magyar.

[Turul Karom]

Having a separate component for a people who are basically a mix of Balkan, Slavic and Germanic was a bad idea from the start, because their neighbours will keep scoring it. And apparently the algorithm for Hungarians themselves prefers to pick the said 3 components separately, instead of assigning a huge chunk of Magyar.

The problem is that we don't understand their logic behind their references. They operate inside of a black box, so they could be using old Hungarian graves from pre-settlement, or they could be using some odd mix across the board. For the record, I put zero faith in their ability to discern my ethnic group with any effective nuance months ago when they first announced this "update." The Maltese without Italian, sudden Irish without Great Britain, and the 3x increase in Scandinavian is just icing on the cake of hilarity. Many of us Hungarians don't score Hungarian at all (I seem to be one of very, very few... how many Hungarians even get the result?), and Chris has zero Asian anymore anywhere, not even 1% Magyar.

[Longbowman]

Previous: can't really remember

x2 ago:

Ashkenazi 90%
Sephardic 5%
Southeast Europe 3%
Trace (<1%):
North Africa, West Middle East, South America

Now:

Ashkenazi 91%
Central Europe <1%
North Levant 6%
Sephardic <2%
Mizrahi Jewish <2%

Better, although not sure why I get 6% North Levant when Mizrahi is now an actual option. Also Sephardic subsumed into Ashkenazi.

[ShieldWolf]

So I must be Magyar, because I scored 0%.
I'm 100% NW European. I didn't get any Magyar either, so this must be an Eastern European issue.

[waam]

Previous: can't really remember

x2 ago:

Ashkenazi 90%
Sephardic 5%
Southeast Europe 3%
Trace (<1%):
North Africa, West Middle East, South America

Now:

Ashkenazi 91%
Central Europe <1%
North Levant 6%
Sephardic <2%
Mizrahi Jewish <2%

Better, although not sure why I get 6% North Levant when Mizrahi is now an actual option. Also Sephardic subsumed into Ashkenazi.

Even us actual Mizrahis barely score any. Can't see its purpose if it ends up with Mizrahis scoring a mixture of Mesopotamia and the Levant.

[Longbowman]

Even us actual Mizrahis barely score any. Can't see its purpose if it ends up with Mizrahis scoring a mixture of Mesopotamia and the Levant.

Well, I am part Mizrahi. I'm ~86% Ashkenazi, ~8% Sephardi and ~6% Mizrahi. It's just odd. But at least there's a large chunk of MENA there, so that's an improvement.

[Chaos One]

What do you mean? Countless people with 0 connection to Hungary or SC/Central Asia score Magyar.

I mean, which samples were used to make you "match" with Magyar, or which references? Proto Uralic/Turkic ones? Seems so, and that's why some people do get it while many Hungarians do not.

[waam]

Well, I am part Mizrahi. I'm ~86% Ashkenazi, ~8% Sephardi and ~6% Mizrahi. It's just odd. But at least there's a large chunk of MENA there, so that's an improvement.

Yeah I know you are, but my point was that if even people who are predominantly Mizrahi don't score any you shouldn't be surprised you didn't.
I wouldn't have been too disappointed if they weren't going to add all these dedicated niche populations. I would be fine if they just had it broken down for me with non-Jewish MENA populations, but once they decided to include these they'd better deliver...

[Mingle]

I mean, which samples were used to make you "match" with Magyar, or which references? Proto Uralic/Turkic ones? Seems so
Doesn't seem like that to me. It seems like general European admixture. The majority of Euros seem to get it. I don't see any Steppe/Uralic/Turkic connection.

[Vascontelo]

The site is down.


Edit: They took 4% of my amerindian and put it in scandinavia lol. I guess they are confusing ANE admixture.

[Mortimer]

When I try to got to myorigins I see a blank page it wont load for me.

[wisteria]

it took a long time to load for me earlier and now it’s not showing at all. luckily I took a screenshot earlier...

Before
https://i.imgur.com/fGXjDVE.jpg

After
https://i.imgur.com/X9vGxLz.jpg

[Turul Karom]

I mean, which samples were used to make you "match" with Magyar, or which references? Proto Uralic/Turkic ones? Seems so, and that's why some people do get it while many Hungarians do not.


Doesn't seem like that to me. It seems like general European admixture. The majority of Euros seem to get it. I don't see any Steppe/Uralic/Turkic connection.

Both of you present with unfortunately unprovable points regarding this perspective because FTDNA modeling was a joke even before this "update," and they don't share their methodology or their kits. I score 18% Magyar on the new test, and follow other Hungarians across most of their testing as we all tend to participate in the same threads here on TA. Ethnic Hungarian user Chris596 has shown across many companies, GEDmatch kit comparisons, and Vahaduo results that he has not only Central Asian components and old Hungarian matches (like myself) but also East Asian components, and not only does he not score even 1% Magyar, he doesn't score any kind of Asian at all with the new update. After seeing all of his results across all of these unrelated evaluators (and the results of other Hungarian members) I would say that the 3.0 "update" is a total joke, making any European and steppe elements of the "Magyar" component a total wash as it is impossible to even get a grasp on where the top shot-callers' heads are regarding their reference population master lists or sources.

[Lemminkäinen]

Yet they cut out Finland? Interesting political move, I guess, haha.



Geez bro, take a breather and relax for a minute.

I am partly Italian. Thanks, I didn't got Moroccan. It sounds like the method is based on selective allele process. A recent study just proved about a Viking Age influx and if they use precent-day Scandinavians the influx is not negligible either.

[Lemminkäinen]

The Italian is a methodic error and Magyar is legit?

It is also, but I give a possibility to see a common Uralic ancestry, although don't keep it practically possible.

[Chris596]

I mean, which samples were used to make you "match" with Magyar, or which references? Proto Uralic/Turkic ones? Seems so, and that's why some people do get it while many Hungarians do not.

It's weird because before the update I was 2-3% East Asian according to FTDNA. And I'm a solid 2-3% East Asian on almost every calculator (GEDmatch, Admixture Studio, Geneplaza, etc.). But nope, not on Myheritage or FTDNA. They became more precise regarding my European ancestry, but not my Non-European.

My father is Szekely Hungarian and Szekelys are ~4% Mongoloid on average so I have no idea what's going on at these companies.

[Jana]

Magyar is based on modern Hungarians like all other references. But since modern Hungarians are one of most mixed people in Europe lot of people will end up scoring it.

Using any central population (Asian, European) as reference will end up a failure.

[oszkar07]

The bastuds are telling me I have wait another 3 weeks.

[Adamm]

FTDNA removed my updates.... Are they reversing the update now?

[Creoda]

It's pretty embarrassing that people here can make much more accurate calculators than these professionals, just from scouring random gedmatch kits. I guess the joke's on us though.

[Chris596]

FTDNA removed my updates.... Are they reversing the update now?

LOL!

My update was also removed!!! xD WTF 's going on??

[Adamm]

LOL!

My update was also removed!!! xD WTF 's going on??

Either technical issues or they saw many people not happy about their results?

[Kaspias]

Same.

Let's hope that they read this thread. :D

[Adamm]

:picard2:
Its official now, they removed all the results from yesterday and they DELAYED(!!!!!) it again for 4 weeks now!

https://i.imgur.com/NnY7acx.png

[Chris596]

:picard2:
Its official now, they removed all the results from yesterday and they DELAYED(!!!!!) it again for 4 weeks now!

https://i.imgur.com/NnY7acx.png

But what does this mean? Are they going to release a new version for everyone or what?

[Ryujin]

I was %41 Anatolian but now it is %13. And almost no East European while I was like over %20 before. Interesting. It seems they've largely expanded their DNA pool.

https://i.imgur.com/HG0L7ht.png
https://i.imgur.com/mrethSI.png

%78 Europe

%41 Italian Peninsula
%21 Greece & Balkans
%7 Basque
%6 Magyar
%2 East Slavic
%2 Ireland (I like Irish pubs so that's why :drink3:)

%22 Middle East

%13 Anatolia, Armenia & Mesopotomia
%6 Southern Caucasus
%3 Mizrahi Jewish

[Chris596]

I was %41 Anatolian but now it is %13. And almost no East European while I was like over %20 before. Interesting. It seems they've largely expanded their DNA pool.


LOL, even you are more Western European than me xD I was born to be a Gopnik I guess

[Ryujin]

LOL, even you are more Western European than me xD I was born to be a Gopnik I guess

I'm a mutt. :p

[wisteria]

mine also says available in 3-4 weeks and I get a blank page when I click on myorigin. what a disaster!

[Slavic Italian]

They have the worst calc by far.

[Zoro]

I posted the result of an Iraqi kurd that updated here in the other thread but didn’t see a single kurd or persian result for comparison anywhere. Are there any updated kurdish or persian results.

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?333127-FTDNA-has-updated-the-autosomal-results-post-your-new-result-in-here!/page7

[Mortimer]

mine also says available in 3-4 weeks and I get a blank page when I click on myorigin. what a disaster!

Same

[Slavic Italian]

My results are still available.

[Dušan]

It works now. :D

[gixajo]

It is also, but I give a possibility to see a common Uralic ancestry, although don't keep it practically possible.

As far as you (or me) know, it´s practically impossible, but nobody can be 100% sure of some "strange" input from 10 generations before us.(or even less).

[gixajo]

I was %41 Anatolian but now it is %13. And almost no East European while I was like over %20 before. Interesting. It seems they've largely expanded their DNA pool.



And this 7% Basque. where does it come from?.:rolleyes:

[Leto]

It's working for me as well.

Some of my matches:

Belarusian - 69% West Slavic, 31% Baltic
Russian - 87% East Slavic, 7% Baltic, 5% Scandinavian
Russian - 85% East Slavic, 15% Magyar (I believe he claims distant Hungarian ancestry or something)

There is also a half non-European woman (Assyrian? She has not replied to me) with a bunch of Middle Eastern/Woggistani things.

[Leto]

Another guy, he is from from Altai krai, I believe (he messaged me a couple of years ago)
Y-DNA: N-M232

69% East Slavic
22% West Slavic
10% Great Britain

[Kriptc06]

I'm still baffled with my results, 41 % central europe LMAO, I guess the more mixed you are the harder for the calculator, still, got me LOL'ing

[Erronkari]

And this 7% Basque. where does it come from?.:rolleyes:

How many basque did you score this time, friend? Around 30?

[gixajo]

How many basque did you score this time, friend? Around 30?

Same as in LivingDna, a 25%.

https://i.imgur.com/R2KCh1H.png

You would score aprox. double than me, 40/50% I guess?

[Erronkari]

Same as in LivingDna, a 25%.

https://i.imgur.com/R2KCh1H.png

You would score aprox. double than me, 40/50% I guess?

Very good guees, friend! :thumb001:
It was 57%...
It seems quite accurate what they consider "basque". :eek:

https://i.postimg.cc/bwTG5SP6/Screenshot-20200923-010930.png (https://postimg.cc/rDDF0mKW)

[gixajo]

Very good guees, friend! :thumb001:
It was 57%...
It seems quite accurate what they consider "basque". :eek:

rl]

I´m agree, my impression is that those new results are quite accurate for Iberians, and specially for the Basque input.

I guess that my mother would score more or less similar % than you, but I didn´t upload her raw data to FTDNA (and neither my father's raw data).

[Vascontelo]

These are my results now. They dissapeared the jewish :C

https://i.postimg.cc/pXFzWjPR/Captura-de-pantalla-2020-09-23-090309.png
https://i.postimg.cc/MHcRjMR0/Captura-de-pantalla-2020-09-23-090243.png

[Erronkari]

I´m agree, my impression is that those new results are quite accurate for Iberians, and specially for the Basque input.

I guess that my mother would score more or less similar % than you, but I didn´t upload her raw data to FTDNA (and neither my father's raw data).

Oh.. what a pity... :(
Indeed I was very curious about your mother's result!! :D
And yes, probsbly our results should be similar talking about basque item.
Curiously, Familytreedna was the first DNA test I took.
At the first times (around 2016) their format was very simple... keep in mind that they didn't differenciate southern european populations, so I remember my test was a sort of oval settled up to the Mare , and another in the american continent showing my native split.
The first update was quite good because it started to recognize the =/= populations in South Europe, and this last seems to be fantastic really. :thumb001:

[Leto]

These are my results now. They dissapeared the jewish :C

[IMG]https://i.postimg.cc/pXFzWjPR/Captura-de-pantalla-2020-09-23-090309.png
[IMG]https://i.postimg.cc/MHcRjMR0/Captura-de-pantalla-2020-09-23-090243.png
It's okay for you. Some minor noise but overall not bad at all. Iberian, Central American.
Can you show me your Amerindian percentage from Gedmatch Dodecad World9? You are 30% Amerindian but don't show it phenotypically at all!

[noricum]

The wiredest results I got so far anywhere:

Europe 100%

Western Europe
Scandinavia 33%
Central Europe 12%

Southern Europe
Greece & Balkans 14%
Iberian Peninsula 6%
Malta & Sicily <2%

Baltic
Baltic 17%

Eastern Europe
East Slavic 7%
Magyar 6%
West Slavic 3%
European Jewish
Ashkenazi Jewish <2

[Erronkari]

These are my results now. They dissapeared the jewish :C

https://i.postimg.cc/pXFzWjPR/Captura-de-pantalla-2020-09-23-090309.png
https://i.postimg.cc/MHcRjMR0/Captura-de-pantalla-2020-09-23-090243.png

Another huge weird aspect is your "african" doesn't seem result of the slavery.
Slaves in American Continent were west africans, not east africans/horners.
Your genetics are really inreresting and sui generis! :eek:

[Vascontelo]

Another huge weird aspect is your "african" doesn't seem result of the slavery.
Slaves in American Continent were west africans, not east africans/horners.
Your genetics are really inreresting and sui generis! :eek:

I am sure that 3% horn of africa and the 1% magreb is my past 4% west african.


I am not happy with this version. I have seen all my relatives are now more european than before!

[Slavic Italian]

Funny. I have this match from FTDNA and several others that are stronger. Yet they give me no East Slav.


Largest segment = 8.1 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 93.8 cM (2.615 Pct)

25 shared segments found for this comparison.

432364 SNPs used for this comparison.

69.722 Pct SNPs are full identical

Here's another new match.

Largest segment = 11.0 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 83.5 cM (2.327 Pct)

20 shared segments found for this comparison.

424601 SNPs used for this comparison.

70.027 Pct SNPs are full identical

[wisteria]

Ok, mine is showing again. Weird. Same new results.

[Deniz]

Europe %97

Southern Europe
Italian Peninsula %47
Malta&Sicily %4
Greek&Balkans %2
Iberian Peninsula %2

Eastern Europe

East Slavic %18
Magyar %11
West Slavic %1
Baltic %10

Western Europe

Great Britain %3

Finland %1

Middle East %2

Anatolia&Armenia&Mezopotamia %1
Mizrahi Jewish %1

Asia %2

Central&Eastern Siberia %2

[Ryujin]

And this 7% Basque. where does it come from?.:rolleyes:

Daniel Güiza. :p

[Erronkari]

I am sure that 3% horn of africa and the 1% magreb is my past 4% west african.


I am not happy with this version. I have seen all my relatives are now more european than before!

Yes, the most likely!

[Deniz]

My Mother

%92 Europe

Southern Europe

Italian Peninsula %25
Greece&Balkan %25
Malta&Sicily %3
Iberian Peninsula %2

Eastern Europe

East Slavic %24
Magyar %11

Western Europe

Central Europe %2

Middle East %8

Anatolia&Armenia&Mezopotamia %8

Asia %1
Island Southeast Asia
Malaysia&Western Indonesia %1

[Deniz]

My Father

Europe %76

Eastern Europe

West Slavic %35
East Slavic %12
Magyar %2

Southern Europe

Greece&Balkans %25
Malta&Sicily %3

Middle East %22

Anatolia&Armenia&Mezopotamia %15
Southern Levant %3

Caucasus

Northern Caucasus %5

Asia %2

Central&Eastern Siberia %2

My Grandfather

Europe %87

Southern Europe

Italian Peninsula %33
Greece &Balkans %22

Eastern Europe

East Slavic %32

Western Europe

Ireland %1

Middle East %12

Anatolia&Armenia&Mezopotamia %4
Sephardic Jewish %4
Southern Caucasus %4

Asia %1
Island&Southeast Asia
Malaysia&Western Indonesia %1

[Chris596]

Some of my most recent matches: (Just call me Goldstein596) I can't share my closest matches because some of them haven't got the updated yet.

3rd match: A woman with Hungarian and ,,American'' surname as well: 94% Ashkenazi Jewish, 4% Italian, 2% Irish,;
6th match: Woman with Polish surname and name: 65% West Slavic, 24% Baltic, 8% Central European, 3% Finnish;
11th match: Woman, possibly Slovak/Czech based on her surname and name: 81% West Slavic, 12% Greece & Balkans, 7% Scandinavia;
12th match: Mixed American woman I guess: 27% Great Britain, 18% Ireland, 18% Scandinavia, 11% West Slavic, 8% Greece & Balkans, 4% Finnish, 3% Malta & Sicily, 1% Amerindian Central & South Mexico;

etc.

[Abdelnour]

https://i.ibb.co/6yx5Gpk/Screenshot-20200923-080657-Chrome.jpg (https://ibb.co/8mpVGRH)

[Imperator Biff]

Shocker

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=102420&d=1600899269

[Leto]

Shocker

102420
Lol, pure Eire :drink3:

[El_Abominacion]

Shocker

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=102420&d=1600899269

Guinness runs through your veins

[Lemminkäinen]

As far as you (or me) know, it´s practically impossible, but nobody can be 100% sure of some "strange" input from 10 generations before us.(or even less).

Regardless of these results, I know my church registers 20 generation back and outside my knowledge I could have Russian ancestry, but all tests lack of it.

[ShieldWolf]

With this company it is Magyar. With Ancestry DNA it is Scottish.
That's my impression as well.

[axel.aleman]

Finally I get my Update

[Mortimer]

Svetozar Plemic
Europe 79%
Southern Europe
Greece & Balkans 72%
Italian Peninsula 7%
Asia 15%
Indian Subcontinent
Northern India 8%
Eastern India 7%
Middle East 6%
Middle East
Anatolia, Armenia, & Mesopotamia <4%
Sephardic Jewish <3%
Middle East Jewish
Mizrahi Jewish <1%

[Lemgrant]

okayish

data upload
https://i.ibb.co/j5R5zpF/ancestrydnaupload.png

[Annihilus]

Actually if you don't take the countries too serious and see it more as components it isn't half bad. Like I don't have Polish ancestry but I am part slavic.

[Chris596]

okayish

data upload


Alright, so you didn't get East Asian/Siberian either. Before the update I got ~2%, after the update, nothing.

[Dušan]

Alright, so you didn't get East Asian/Siberian either. Before the update I got ~2%, after the update, nothing.

I think that 1-2% Siberian is hidden in East Slavic component.
I got 1% Siberian in old FTDNA report, now in new its absent.

[Leto]

Actually if you don't take the countries too serious and see it more as components it isn't half bad. Like I don't have Polish ancestry but I am part slavic.
Are you half Balkan Turk half Black Sea? On Gedmatch you score barely 4% East Eurasian, that's way below the Anatolian average (9-10%).

[DedPerded]

To be honest, sometimes the non-professionalism of the FTDNA is just annoying. Now the russians, tatars and volgan finns have almost no Siberia and Finland. It is very strange that they included in the "east slavs" those who are indirectly related to them. Is this the final release?
https://d.radikal.ru/d04/2009/2e/01657bb2104ft.jpg (https://d.radikal.ru/d04/2009/2e/01657bb2104f.jpg)

https://a.radikal.ru/a32/2009/8d/045a34003836t.jpg (https://a.radikal.ru/a32/2009/8d/045a34003836.jpg)

[Annihilus]

Are you half Balkan Turk half Black Sea? On Gedmatch you score barely 4% East Eurasian, that's way below the Anatolian average (9-10%).

Half Balkan half Anatolian. Yes I have depending on calculator little to no mongoloid.

[gixajo]

Regardless of these results, I know my church registers 20 generation back and outside my knowledge I could have Russian ancestry, but all tests lack of it.

I doubt seriously you have ALL 20 generation back parrish registers of your entire family(absolutelly all, maternal and paternal sides of every person from whom you received some DNa). but nice try.:D

And even considering that you actually have them, with so many people in your genealogical tree, even with a 5% infidelity with illegitimate children, it means that if you have 4000 people in that tree, 200 of them would not really be your direct relatives.

As far as I know the Finnish Luteran church archives started in 1686? Is this true?

I see that there are church registers from 1657 in the National Archives:

https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/Finland_Church_Records

[Leto]

Half Balkan half Anatolian. Yes I have depending on calculator little to no mongoloid.
So your 'Altaic' self-identity is just way to piss some people off, right?

[Annihilus]

So your 'Altaic' self-identity is just way to piss some people off, right?

No, why you say that? Because I have no mong? First turkics were only half mong, so there is another half to it.

[Leto]

No, why you say that? Because I have no mong? First turkics were only half mong, so there is another half to it.
Well, we discussed that (not with you) in the West/Central/South Asian thread. Even if they were like 50% Mongoloid, that would mean you are barely 10% Turkic genetically.

[Lemminkäinen]

I doubt seriously you have ALL 20 generation back parrish registers of your entire family(absolutelly all, maternal and paternal sides of every person from whom you received some DNa). but nice try.:D

And even considering that you actually have them, with so many people in your genealogical tree, even with a 5% infidelity with illegitimate children, it means that if you have 4000 people in that tree, 200 of them would not really be your direct relatives.

As far as I know the Finnish Luteran church archives started in 1686? Is this true?

I see that there are church registers from 1657 in the National Archives:

https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/Finland_Church_Records

I have all ancestors to the end of the 1600s, maternal line to 1630 and paternal line to the beginning of the 1500s. Burger and priest lines to the 1500s and nobles too far back to have interest to follow them.

Of course there can be adopted children, but generally Finnish priests stalked everyone and to have many illegitimate children is not common.

[Leto]

I have all ancestors to the end of the 1600s, maternal line to 1630 and paternal line to the beginning of the 1500s. Burger and priest lines to the 1500s and nobles too far back to have interest to follow them.

Of course there can be adopted children, but generally Finnish priests stalked everyone and to have many illegitimate children is not common.
Are you Lutheran? There is no priest celibacy in Lutheranism, in fact there is no priests there to begin with, they are called ministers. Do you have documented Eastern Orthodox ancestors?

[Zoro]

To be honest, sometimes the non-professionalism of the FTDNA is just annoying. Now the russians, tatars and volgan finns have almost no Siberia and Finland. It is very strange that they included in the "east slavs" those who are indirectly related to them. Is this the final release?
https://d.radikal.ru/d04/2009/2e/01657bb2104ft.jpg (https://d.radikal.ru/d04/2009/2e/01657bb2104f.jpg)

https://a.radikal.ru/a32/2009/8d/045a34003836t.jpg (https://a.radikal.ru/a32/2009/8d/045a34003836.jpg)

Siberian is hidden under some E European component they’re using. Trouble is it’s impossible to calculate as the amount of hidden will be different for each person. That’s the disadvantage of increasing number of world references because it becomes harder and harder to see how you model in terms of populations geographically more distant to you. Eventually if you increase the number of world references everyone will be just modeled as 100% of their own population.

Same happened with a Kurdish sample from Iraq. It now scores only 1% Siberian and it’s hard to tell how much is hidden under the 17% iIndus valley or the Mesopotamian Iranian component he scored https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?333127-FTDNA-has-updated-the-autosomal-results-post-your-new-result-in-here!/page7

[Annihilus]

Well, we discussed that (not with you) in the West/Central/South Asian thread. Even if they were like 50% Mongoloid, that would mean you are barely 10% Turkic genetically.

Look, I have a direct male ancestor who was among the people who started the turkics. Since turkicness is inherited paternally that makes me 100% turkic. may I ask why you care so much how I self identify?

[Leto]

Look, I have a direct male ancestor who was among the people who started the turkics. Since turkicness is iherited paternally that makes me 100% turkic. may I ask why you care so much how I self identify?
R1a is not Turkic. I remember your anti-white comments and the irony is that you are more white than you are Turkic, yet you seem to disregard your European heritage. I guess the evil Dutch called you a foreigner or something ;)

[Annihilus]

R1a is not Turkic. I remember your anti-white comments and the irony is that you are more white than you are Turkic, yet you seem to disregard your European heritage. I guess the evil Dutch called you a foreigner or something ;)

I never said R1a as a whole is turkic, but my subclade certainly is. I am not really anti-white btw, it may only look like that from time to time when it clashes with the interests of my people.

[Lemminkäinen]

Are you Lutheran? There is no priest celibacy in Lutheranism, in fact there is no priests there to begin with, they are called ministers. Do you have documented Eastern Orthodox ancestors?

All right my knowledge of Finnish history after reading it 20 years is nothing compared to you.

[Lemminkäinen]

Double.

[Leto]

I never said R1a as a whole is turkic, but my subclade certainly is. I am not really anti-white btw, it may only look like that from time to time when it clashes with the interests of my people.
Well, you don't live in Turkey, do you. So that clashes with their interests first. Turks are often pro-immigration to Europe but anti-immigration to Turkey. Imagine a bunch of Hindus, Chinese and Protestant Africans moving to Turkey and taking over whole cities. IMO Islam is the main obstacle between Turkish and European identities, without it things would be going in a much more smooth way. Sort of like with Armenians, Lebanese Christians, Assyrians, etc.
Anyway, let's not continue this here.

[Annihilus]

Well, you don't live in Turkey, do you. So that clashes with their interests first. Turks are often pro-immigration to Europe but anti-immigration to Turkey. Imagine a bunch of Hindus, Chinese and Protestant Africans moving to Turkey and taking over whole cities. IMO Islam is the main obstacle between Turkish and European identities, without it things would be going in a much more smooth way. Sort of like with Armenians, Lebanese Christians, Assyrians, etc.
Anyway, let's not continue this here.

I am against any form of immigration to the Netherlands or Europe for that matter. If it was up to me border violations would be met with bullets.

[Leto]

All right my knowledge of Finnish history after reading it 20 years is nothing compared to you.
Lol. What did my post have to do with Finnish history to begin with? I just said there are no priests in Lutheranism and asked you if you had Eastern Orthodox ancestors, that's all.

[Leto]

I am against any form of immigration to the Netherlands or Europe for that matter. If it was up to me border violations would be met with bullets.
Lol, I am astonished :eek: :D

[PAGANE]

Mine


Europe 100%

Southern Europe
Greece & Balkans 68%


Eastern Europe
Magyar 12%
West Slavic 8%
East Slavic 6%


Western Europe
Central Europe 6%


Middle East

Middle East
Anatolia, Armenia, & Mesopotamia
info <1%

My brother


Europe 99%
Southern Europe
Greece & Balkans 57%
Italian Peninsula 8%


Eastern Europe
West Slavic 19%
East Slavic 4%


Western Europe
Central Europe 12%


Middle East <1%


Caucasus
Southern Caucasus info <1%

Arabia
Yemenite Jewish
info <1%


My mother


Europe 97%

Southern Europe
Greece & Balkans 60%
Italian Peninsula 10%

Eastern Europe
West Slavic 23%

Western Europe
Scandinavia 4%

Middle East 3%

Caucasus
Northern Caucasus info <3%

Middle East

Southern Levant info <1%

[Annihilus]

Mine


Europe 100%

Southern Europe
Greece & Balkans 68%


Eastern Europe
Magyar 12%
West Slavic 8%
East Slavic 6%


Western Europe
Central Europe 6%


Middle East

Middle East
Anatolia, Armenia, & Mesopotamia
info <1%

My brother


Europe 99%
Southern Europe
Greece & Balkans 57%
Italian Peninsula 8%


Eastern Europe
West Slavic 19%
East Slavic 4%


Western Europe
Central Europe 12%


Middle East <1%


Caucasus
Southern Caucasus info <1%

Arabia
Yemenite Jewish
info <1%


My mother


Europe 97%

Southern Europe
Greece & Balkans 60%
Italian Peninsula 10%

Eastern Europe
West Slavic 23%

Western Europe
Scandinavia 4%

Middle East 3%

Caucasus
Northern Caucasus info <3%

Middle East

Southern Levant info <1%

Aren't you part Armenian or am I mistaken?

[Lemminkäinen]

Lol. What did my post have to do with Finnish history to begin with? I just said there are no priests in Lutheranism and asked you if you had Eastern Orthodox ancestors, that's all.

Lutheran priests are known in all Lutheran countries. You simply don't know, no one called them ministers. Maybe in America. You obviously believe that celibate makes a priest. I have no Orthodox ancestors. Orthodox church is very rare in Finland, at least in Western Finland.

[Lemgrant]

Some of my most recent matches: (Just call me Goldstein596) I can't share my closest matches because some of them haven't got the updated yet.

3rd match: A woman with Hungarian and ,,American'' surname as well: 94% Ashkenazi Jewish, 4% Italian, 2% Irish,;
6th match: Woman with Polish surname and name: 65% West Slavic, 24% Baltic, 8% Central European, 3% Finnish;
11th match: Woman, possibly Slovak/Czech based on her surname and name: 81% West Slavic, 12% Greece & Balkans, 7% Scandinavia;
12th match: Mixed American woman I guess: 27% Great Britain, 18% Ireland, 18% Scandinavia, 11% West Slavic, 8% Greece & Balkans, 4% Finnish, 3% Malta & Sicily, 1% Amerindian Central & South Mexico;

etc.

:icon_lol:

my top 3rd match:

https://i.ibb.co/3BScGjM/ashj.png

[Dušan]

Lets help me to sort my result on proto-Slavic and paleo-Balkan component.

https://i.imgur.com/mu6fyAq.png

Greece&Balkans are Slavic influenced at least 20%. So, of these 45% G&B, paleo-Balkan is 36%.
When I add 6% Italian, it is 42% paleo-Balkan.

Proto Slav: 23% West Slav + 16% East Slav (these are a bit Uralic influenced) + 9% from Balkans = 48%


And there is 10-11% Magyar.
How to sort this component? :confused:

[PAGANE]

[QUOTE = Annihilus; 6907111] Не сте ли част от арменски или греша? [/ QUOTE]
No, I have no Armenians in my family in the last 150 years. For back not knowing

[Leto]

And there is 10-11% Magyar.
How to sort this component? :confused:
If it's based on modern Hungarians, it must be a least 50% Slavic.

[Annihilus]

[QUOTE = Annihilus; 6907111] Не сте ли част от арменски или греша? [/ QUOTE]
No, I have no Armenians in my family in the last 150 years. For back not knowing

I thought so seeing your results. I must have confused you with another Bulgarian user.

[axel.aleman]

Estos resultados mios son muy extraños, 13% de middle east y solo 4 % de North african
si fuera alrevez no lo seria porque muy problamente desciendo de isleños canarios

https://images2.imagebam.com/da/80/cd/b3582a1354931436.PNG

https://images2.imagebam.com/a7/56/39/c95f331354931439.PNG

https://images2.imagebam.com/c2/12/cb/07220c1354931444.PNG

https://images2.imagebam.com/fa/d3/11/fb21781354931447.PNG

https://images2.imagebam.com/c0/9a/e1/f1afcf1354931449.PNG

[Vascontelo]

FTDNA is shit.

[Kriptc06]

FTDNA is shit.

very much

[ShieldWolf]

FTDNA is shit.
It's actually excellant for genetic genealogy: Y-DNA Surname studies and FamilyFinder. Ancestry composition is not their strong point.

[axel.aleman]

FTDNA is shit.

La versión anterior era mejor

[Pertoto]

https://i.ibb.co/L0L3bSJ/Screen-Shot-2020-09-22-at-6-14-19-PM.png

https://i.ibb.co/vwmXX29/Screen-Shot-2020-09-22-at-6-14-37-PM.png

I just do not know what to think.

Very high North African for full N,African Jews. at the same time high european. maybe they play with the results like g25. I have a few N.African jews matchs with diffrent results. some are more Iberians, the other are more Greek and Balkans, and some are Italians and Sicilians and Malta. but they score between 2-8% and they score around 40% european. please if u want too. run your G25 with Samaritans, Moroccos from South and North (non Jews) and take all the Italian populations without Italian Jews. and lets see what u score.

[Chris596]

FTDNA is shit.

Well, it is, pretty much. But they guessed my European ancestry much better this time. The only problem is that my East Asian has disappeared (before the update I scored Northeast & Southeast Asian, just like in many other calculators).

[waam]

Well, it is, pretty much. But they guessed my European ancestry much better this time. The only problem is that my East Asian has disappeared (before the update I scored Northeast & Southeast Asian, just like in many other calculators).
They have a dedicated Magyar category yet you scored none, it's kind of embarrassing to say the least.

[Gomorra]

102426 This might be shit (origin 3.0) but my direct paternal ancestor born 1854 is NPE. So it´s effects very much to my results. My father Finnish percentage are 54 %. So my mother pulls myself strongly towards Finnishness.

[Gomorra]

102427 Jeesus i am old and out of computing : ) A single picture i can´t create!

[Lemminkäinen]

102426 This might be shit (origin 3.0) but my direct paternal ancestor born 1854 is NPE. So it´s effects very much to my results. My father Finnish percentage are 54 %. So my mother pulls myself strongly towards Finnishness.

NPE?

If you are in Gedmatch, would you send your Eurogenes K13 result?

[Gomorra]

NPE "non parental event" I think is same as au. It is used in geneologial context.

[Gomorra]

I am out of gedmatch now. They needed some kind updatades. I been out very long time so i need to log on again. They have deleted my results.

[Lemminkäinen]

NPE "non parental event" I think is same as au. It is used in geneologial context.

Ok. I have done only Finnish genealogy and finished 20 years ago. Never used online services, although some weird info has appeared there without my own action.

Gedmatch would give another angle, because American companies, like FtDna, hear only American custoners and you know, Europeans heard about such a place very late.

[Gomorra]

Ok. Geni is great platform for geneological research. Together we build family tree. I think that you are there too. We have some kind of connection if not geneological our conection is dna based. Lemminkäinen.

[Gomorra]

I mean geni is platform where everybody builds family tree together.

[Leto]

Ukrainian, Chuvash and distant Romani (I guess from the Ukrainian side)
I-Y4882
H7a1

75% East Slavic
15% Magyar
<1% Ashkenazi
4% Western Siberian Plains
<1% Yakut
5% Eastern India

He has Gedmatch in case anyone is interested.

[Lemminkäinen]

Ok. Geni is great platform for geneological research. Together we build family tree. I think that you are there too. We have some kind of connection if not geneological our conection is dna based. Lemminkäinen.

Yeah, you can find my data from geni, but it is not uploaded by me. There was an active user who asked for my data and I gave it 10 years ago. He uploaded it and then five years later I checked my trees and found that I was my own stepbrother and my father's familytree was full of errors. Today I am not a dublicate any more, but otherwise my data is full of errors

[Gomorra]

These geneoligical data can be anxious and errors can occur. Are you talking about Geni or My heritage. Anyway this is OT.

[Lemminkäinen]

These geneoligical data can be anxious and errors can occur. Are you talking about Geni or My heritage. Anyway this is OT.

Geni. I simply had not time to make such a huge effort of inputting 5000 names and didn't see it useful to fix only errors, because the result wouldn't have been worthwhile. I have my own genealogical db.

[Truen]

Half Morocco Jew & Half Mizrahi Jew

Mizrahi Jewish - 51%
Sephardic Jewish - 17%
Southern Levant - 9%
Anatolia, Armenia, & Mesopotamia - <3%
Italian Peninsula - 11%
Malta & Sicily - 7%
Iberian Peninsula - 3%
Ashkenazi Jewish - <2%

[waam]

Half Morocco Jew & Half Mizrahi Jew

Mizrahi Jewish - 51%
Sephardic Jewish - 17%
Southern Levant - 9%
Anatolia, Armenia, & Mesopotamia - <3%
Italian Peninsula - 11%
Malta & Sicily - 7%
Iberian Peninsula - 3%
Ashkenazi Jewish - <2%
Iraqi? Persian?

[Truen]

Iraqi? Persian?

Hey Waam, Iraqi Jew. All my matchs the full Iraqi score from 98-100% Mizrahi Jew. So base on that Ftdna accurate.
For Morocco Jews I saw many diffrent breakedowns. Some are Iberians with Levantine and North African. Some Basque some greeks some like in my case Italians, I score 0% North African I guess because the Sicilian 7% Took my low North African it it.

[waam]

Hey Waam, Iraqi Jew. All my matchs the full Iraqi score from 98-100% Mizrahi Jew. So base on that Ftdna accurate.
For Morocco Jews I saw many diffrent breakedowns. Some are Iberians with Levantine and North African. Some Basque some greeks some like in my case Italians, I score 0% North African I guess because the Sicilian 7% Took my low North African it it.

Do you prefer it broken down like that (Mizrahi Jewish category) or would you prefer it to be like with Mountain and Bukharan Jews (mix of Mesopotamia and Levant/Druze/Mizrahi/Sephardi/other inappropriate categories)?

[Dušan]

I saw the results of 20 Serbs and my conclusion is that I am very satisfied with my new results, which is quite average for my nationality (half southern Europe - half eastern Europe).

There is no deviation from the average that I had оn some gedmatch calculators.

[Celestia]

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=102440&d=1601134974

[Ion Basescul]

Results of a Romanian match of mine. From Dambovita county in Muntenia (Greater Wallachia)

Europe 98%


Eastern Europe 31%
West Slavic 25%
East Slavic 3%
Magyar 4%

Southern Europe 56%
Greece & Balkans 42%
Sardinia 14%

Western Europe 5%
Ireland <2%
Great Britain 4%

Baltic 4%
Finnish 2%


Middle East 2%
Druze <1%
Sephardic Jewish <1%

[Leto]

A Czech match of my brother-in-law's

70% West Slavic
20% Central Europe
8% Italian Peninsula
<2% Magyar

I also found him on Gedmatch

Population
North_Atlantic 30.56 Pct
Baltic 38.50 Pct
West_Med 14.31 Pct
West_Asian 6.14 Pct
East_Med 8.95 Pct
Red_Sea -
South_Asian -
East_Asian -
Siberian 0.19 Pct
Amerindian 1.31 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

Target: Jiri
Distance: 2.0015% / 2.00147533 | ADC: 0.25x
54.2 Slovenian
24.8 Ukrainian
10.8 Sorb_Lusatia
10.2 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

Target: Jiri
Distance: 1.6167% / 1.61668028
30.6 Sorb_Lusatia
20.6 Latvian
20.0 Torbeshi_North-Macedonia-Central
12.0 South_Polish
9.2 German_east
3.8 French_Basque
1.8 Sardinian
1.4 Norwegian
0.4 Karitiana
0.2 Lithuanian

Pretty eastern for a Czech

[Blemoir]

Nice update! :cool:

Version 2.0 results were so weird, this one makes much more sense.

https://i.imgur.com/ednyEpn.png

Europe - 94%
Southern Europe
Iberian Peninsula - 42%
Italian Peninsula - 24%
Basque - 11%
Malta & Sicily - 7%
Western Europe
Great Britain - 5%
Ireland - 4%

Middle East - 5%
Sephardic Jewish <2%
Southern Levant <2%
North Africa
Maghreb & Egypt <3%

Africa <1%
Atlantic Equatorial Africa <1%

Americas <1%
Amerindian – Central & South Mexico<1%

[Leto]

Nice update! :cool:

Version 2.0 results were so weird, this one makes much more sense.

[img]https://i.imgur.com/ednyEpn.png

Europe - 94%
Southern Europe
Iberian Peninsula - 42%
Italian Peninsula - 24%
Basque - 11%
Malta & Sicily - 7%
Western Europe
Great Britain - 5%
Ireland - 4%

Middle East - 5%
Sephardic Jewish <2%
Southern Levant <2%
North Africa
Maghreb & Egypt <3%

Africa <1%
Atlantic Equatorial Africa <1%

Americas <1%
Amerindian – Central & South Mexico<1%
So basically you have no real black ancestry? What you score is pretty much nothing.

[Blemoir]

So basically you have no real black ancestry? What you score is pretty much nothing.

Yeah, I'm really not sure about this. I think I must have some SSA ancestry but the amount is a mystery. This calculator gives me next to nothing, my heritage is around 3%. On Gedmatch is higher but I think it exaggarates it. I ordered a new kit from another company, so I'm curious what will show up.

[Leto]

Yeah, I'm really not sure about this. I think I must have some SSA ancestry but the amount is a mystery. This calculator gives me next to nothing, my heritage is around 3%. On Gedmatch is higher but I think it exaggarates it. I ordered a new kit from another company, so I'm curious what will show up.
I'd buy G25 in your place instead of ordering another commercial test.
What is your African and Amerindian from Dodecad World9?

[Blemoir]

I'd buy G25 in your place instead of ordering another commercial test.
What is your African and Amerindian from Dodecad World9?

# Population Percent
1 Atlantic_Baltic 47.94
2 Southern 29.29
3 Caucasus_Gedrosia 13.72
4 African 6.08
5 Amerindian 1.82
6 Australasian 1.16

If "African" means only SSA 6% seems too high, if it includes North Africa seems accurate.

Yeah some people recommended the G25 as well, I might get it in the near future.

[ModernMaskil]

I'd buy G25 in your place instead of ordering another commercial test.

He may want haplogroup info.

[Blemoir]

He may want haplogroup info.

My haplogroup is R1a apparently, but I'm Skeptical about it.

[ModernMaskil]

My haplogroup is R1a apparently, but I'm Skeptical about it.

Have you already done another test aside from ftDNA then?

[Blemoir]

Have you already done another test aside from ftDNA then?

Actually I only did with My Heritage so far, I used raw data to get results from ftDNA. That's how I found out the haplogroup, using the raw data on some site.

Here it is:
https://i.imgur.com/qifpcKS.png

[ModernMaskil]

Actually I only did with My Heritage so far, I used raw data to get results from ftDNA. That's how I found out the haplogroup, using the raw data on some site.

Here it is:
https://i.imgur.com/qifpcKS.png

Right. Thought you had bought the test from ftDNA, in which case, if you've noticed, all the haplogroup predicting sites lack the ability to detect haplos through ftDNA manufactured raw data.

[Leto]

# Population Percent
1 Atlantic_Baltic 47.94
2 Southern 29.29
3 Caucasus_Gedrosia 13.72
4 African 6.08
5 Amerindian 1.82
6 Australasian 1.16

If "African" means only SSA 6% seems too high, if it includes North Africa seems accurate.

Yeah some people recommended the G25 as well, I might get it in the near future.
It is MOSTLY SSA here but may include a great deal of "Ibero-Maurusian" in case you're Iberian or Maghrebi.