PDA

View Full Version : FTDNA has updated the autosomal results, post your new result in here!



Adamm
09-22-2020, 02:27 PM
Finally the update has arrived and for many people their results have updated today, I'm not happy with the results as its bad for North Africans... But nevertheless lets share here our results! :thumb001:

https://i.imgur.com/dzrODhO.png

vs old result:

https://i.imgur.com/92aEDbI.png

dududud
09-22-2020, 03:36 PM
Not yet arrived for me.

ModernMaskil
09-22-2020, 03:38 PM
Not yet arrived for me.

Same, though I'd been on the site fairly recently. Frustrating.

Leto
09-22-2020, 03:41 PM
There is already a thread with a growing number of posted results, why do you need another one? Let's have a dozen of threads about the new FTDNA :picard1:

Pedro Ruben
09-22-2020, 03:44 PM
https://i.imgur.com/Ep8n0C7.jpg

Europe 96%
Southern Europe
- Iberian Peninsula 79%
- Sardinia 9%
Western Europe
- Ireland 8%

Middle East <4%
North Africa
- Maghreb & Egypt <4%

Africa <1%
West Africa
- Liberia & Ivory Coast <1%

dududud
09-22-2020, 03:48 PM
This is not very good for those with French ancestry, as everything is divided into several categories, so here you have to translate "iberian" by "French" and "central europe" by "French". .. We must decipher.

My father, who is purely French, would also be divided between Central Europe and Iberian ...

If I suppose that the Iberian part comes from the French part, that the central European part too, that makes in all 68%, and if I suppose that the Balkan part is also French (I do not see where it can come from) , then that would be 71%

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1217x937q90/922/a0ukAQ.png

Adamm
09-22-2020, 03:52 PM
There is already a thread with a growing number of posted results, why do you need another one? Let's have a dozen of threads about the new FTDNA :picard1:

I have no problems with that thread, but I thought this one is in the autosomal section of the forum and directly into results. The other thread is mostly discussion in the first two pages.

Dušan
09-22-2020, 04:27 PM
https://i.imgur.com/Cmkx5hJ.png




I wonder how much percentage of Magyar get real ethnic Hungarians?

Chris596
09-22-2020, 04:32 PM
I wonder how much percentage of Magyar get real ethnic Hungarians?

I got nothing! I'm really a Serb genetically, we have very similar results:


https://i.imgur.com/yHjcNsS.png

100% European:

-44% Greece & Balkans
-30% West Slavic
-15% Italian
-9% Baltic
-3% Scandinavia
-1% Ashkenazi Jewish

Hamilcar
09-22-2020, 04:36 PM
https://i.imgur.com/xYIq33B.png

Dušan
09-22-2020, 04:37 PM
I got nothing! I'm really a Serb genetically, we have very similar results:


https://i.imgur.com/yHjcNsS.png

100% European:

-44% Greece & Balkans
-30% West Slavic
-15% Italian
-9% Baltic
-3% Scandinavia
-1% Ashkenazi Jewish

Stearsolina's father got 26% Magyar. :)

The question is this "Greece&Balkan" pure paleo-Balkan (Vlach) or is it Slavic admixed?

ShieldWolf
09-22-2020, 04:40 PM
https://i.imgur.com/Kf3T9d0.jpg

Simplistic, but otherwise pretty accurate for me.

Chris596
09-22-2020, 04:41 PM
Stearsolina's father got 26% Magyar. :)

The question is this "Greece&Balkan" pure paleo-Balkan (Vlach) or is it Slavic admixed?

Generally modern Hungarians and Croats are similar to each other genetically (I'm also fairly close to Croats).
Honestly I don't know, I'm pretty sure that it's a pure plaeo-Balkan sample, otherwise I would be 40-50% North Slavic or something, and that's not really possible I think. And there is a great overlap between Italians and Balkaners (in general). So your 6% Italian and my 15% Italian is also our Balkan ancestry.

Leto
09-22-2020, 04:42 PM
Stearsolina's father got 26% Magyar. :)

The question is this "Greece&Balkan" pure paleo-Balkan (Vlach) or is it Slavic admixed?
All South Slavic nations as well as Romania and Moldova are included in that cluster, so you can guess.

I.vet
09-22-2020, 04:47 PM
I'm getting more and more smeared across the map, lol
https://b.radikal.ru/b06/2009/eb/f867856410da.jpg (https://radikal.ru)

Leto
09-22-2020, 04:51 PM
I'm getting more and more smeared across the map, lol
[url=https://radikal.ru][img]https://b.radikal.ru/b06/2009/eb/f867856410da.jpg
Except for the Magyar and to a lesser extent Central Europe it makes sense for you. Central Europe is largely based on Germany and Austria as well as France. Did you actually order the test or upload your data from MyHeritage?

I.vet
09-22-2020, 04:54 PM
Except for the Magyar and to a lesser extent Central Europe it makes sense for you. Central Europe is largely based on Germany and Austria as well as France. Did you actually order the test or upload your data from MyHeritage?

I made a transfer from MyHeritage

Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
09-22-2020, 04:54 PM
https://i.imgur.com/tCtwhmz.png

Adamm
09-22-2020, 04:56 PM
https://i.imgur.com/tCtwhmz.png

Very homogenous result, I think this update is good for Iberians. How did your old result look like?

Leto
09-22-2020, 04:57 PM
I made a transfer from MyHeritage
Uploads may yield different results, I think. Less accurate.

Kriptc06
09-22-2020, 05:02 PM
https://i.imgur.com/6c7h0Fk.png

I have no Iberian, and now horn of africa and east india appeared :ranger xD oh jeebus

Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
09-22-2020, 05:04 PM
Very homogenous result, I think this update is good for Iberians. How did your old result look like?

I do not remember them. I think it was 96% European plus 4% North African or something like that. I have to look on the old FTDNA results thread.

Adamm
09-22-2020, 05:05 PM
https://i.imgur.com/6c7h0Fk.png

I have no Iberian, and now horn of africa and east india appeared :ranger xD oh jeebus

Come back to Africa brother, homeland of E.

Defcon2
09-22-2020, 05:09 PM
:rolleyes:

https://i.imgur.com/5uDZKLO.png

Kriptc06
09-22-2020, 05:15 PM
Come back to Africa brother, homeland of E.

wakanda forever

Adamm
09-22-2020, 05:16 PM
:rolleyes:

https://i.imgur.com/5uDZKLO.png

Nice! Can you show us your old result in order to see if there have been any improvements?

Adamm
09-22-2020, 05:17 PM
wakanda forever

That's the spirit!

Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
09-22-2020, 05:18 PM
I never tested with FTDNA by the way, I only uploaded my 23andMe raw data to their platform back in 2017.

Now I am genuinely interested to find out what I used to score before the update but I can not seem to find the thread where I posted them, there are so many autosomal threads...

Defcon2
09-22-2020, 05:18 PM
Nice! Can you show us your old result in order to see if there have been any improvements?

https://i.imgur.com/e7fSxiG.png

Adamm
09-22-2020, 05:23 PM
https://i.imgur.com/e7fSxiG.png

Just like I thought, Iberians have better results now.

Luso
09-22-2020, 05:30 PM
Wow! My results changed a lot... before I wasn't even 86% European on the last test...

https://i.imgur.com/tqY4aik.png

https://i.imgur.com/wIiuUTF.png

Slavic Italian
09-22-2020, 05:31 PM
Just like I thought, Iberians have better results now.

I lost mine.

Adamm
09-22-2020, 05:35 PM
Wow! My results changed a lot... before I wasn't even 86% European on the last test...

https://i.imgur.com/tqY4aik.png

https://i.imgur.com/wIiuUTF.png

Post old result to compare.

Ion Basescul
09-22-2020, 05:35 PM
Stearsolina's father got 26% Magyar. :)

The question is this "Greece&Balkan" pure paleo-Balkan (Vlach) or is it Slavic admixed?

User Sorcelow from Anthrogenica scored 100% Greece & Balkans. He is Greek.

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/120079610_361472908316397_6409073576187475415_n.pn g?_nc_cat=108&_nc_sid=b96e70&_nc_ohc=pZNjyc_JiU0AX9o3eXm&_nc_ht=scontent-lga3-1.xx&oh=6dd2291114a8b462fe1d9c9b3aa439c1&oe=5F8EAD29

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 27.04
2 West_Med 18.12
3 Baltic 17.79
4 North_Atlantic 17.66
5 West_Asian 14.32
6 Red_Sea 3.22
7 Amerindian 0.53
8 South_Asian 0.53
9 Siberian 0.41
10 East_Asian 0.37

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek_Thessaly 4.01
2 Central_Greek 7.81
3 Bulgarian 9.2
4 East_Sicilian 9.32
5 Italian_Abruzzo 9.42
6 Ashkenazi 10.64
7 West_Sicilian 11.18
8 Romanian 11.71
9 South_Italian 12.25
10 Tuscan 13.07
11 Serbian 16.03
12 North_Italian 17.44
13 Italian_Jewish 17.58
14 Sephardic_Jewish 17.58
15 Algerian_Jewish 17.64
16 Tunisian_Jewish 20.92
17 Moldavian 21.41
18 Libyan_Jewish 21.44
19 Cyprian 21.9
20 Turkish 22.16

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 70.6% Bulgarian + 29.4% Cyprian @ 1.27
2 65.3% Romanian + 34.7% Cyprian @ 1.59
3 76.3% Bulgarian + 23.7% Lebanese_Christian @ 1.77
4 75.8% Bulgarian + 24.2% Lebanese_Druze @ 2.07
5 57.8% Serbian + 42.2% Cyprian @ 2.13
6 76% Bulgarian + 24% Samaritan @ 2.22
7 71.7% Romanian + 28.3% Lebanese_Christian @ 2.37
8 73.2% Bulgarian + 26.8% Lebanese_Muslim @ 2.45
9 82.2% Central_Greek + 17.8% Southwest_Russian @ 2.46
10 82.2% Central_Greek + 17.8% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.47
11 52.5% Cyprian + 47.5% Hungarian @ 2.58
12 83.9% Central_Greek + 16.1% Erzya @ 2.59
13 52.9% Cyprian + 47.1% Croatian @ 2.72
14 85.2% Central_Greek + 14.8% Lithuanian @ 2.72
15 83.7% Central_Greek + 16.3% Belorussian @ 2.75
16 74.2% South_Italian + 25.8% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.78
17 83.5% Central_Greek + 16.5% Estonian_Polish @ 2.79
18 83.4% Central_Greek + 16.6% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.85
19 71.3% Romanian + 28.7% Samaritan @ 2.88
20 84% Central_Greek + 16% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.9

Luso
09-22-2020, 05:52 PM
Post old result to compare.

My old results:

https://i.imgur.com/7U4Z02Z.png

Adamm
09-22-2020, 06:00 PM
My old results:

https://i.imgur.com/7U4Z02Z.png

In your case it was a good improvement, too bad not everyone got their results improved.

celticdragongod
09-22-2020, 06:25 PM
102404

calxpal
09-22-2020, 06:25 PM
I got the update and I am quite happy, the results are very decent and accurate for me which I didn't expect. :D Good job FTDNA lol :swl.
https://i.ibb.co/k3MVQpR/Capturers1.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/gFYVN9m/Capturers2.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/Bj0bK4Y/Capturers3.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/FKYDPnM/Capturers4.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/6JtPpFH/Capturers5.jpg

Chris596
09-22-2020, 06:32 PM
I got the update and I am quite happy, the results are very decent and accurate for me which I didn't expect. :D Good job FTDNA lol :swl.


I agree it seems to be quite accurate for you.
But before this update I had 2% Northeast Asia and 1% Southeast Asia. Now all of that has disappeared. And you got 1% Filipino xD (I can't understand this tbh)

calxpal
09-22-2020, 06:36 PM
I agree it seems to be quite accurate for you.
But before this update I had 2% Northeast Asia and 1% Southeast Asia. Now all of that has disappeared. And you got 1% Filipino xD (I can't understand this tbh)

Lol yes the <1% Southeast Asia is a weird outlier xD I had <1% Northeast Asia before the update.

gixajo
09-22-2020, 06:40 PM
Finally the update has arrived and for many people their results have updated today, I'm not happy with the results as its bad for North Africans... But nevertheless lets share here our results! :thumb001:

]

Why is bad for North Africans? I see your results quite good, what is what you don´t like in these new results?

El_Abominacion
09-22-2020, 06:43 PM
Just like I thought, Iberians have better results now.

I'm 1/4 Spanish had 26% Iberian before the update. I have literally 0% now and they made it all British and Irish

Armatus
09-22-2020, 06:51 PM
https://i.imgur.com/EJQWPGt.png

They gave me 0% Central European, despite all my ancestry being from Central Europe.

Cybele
09-22-2020, 06:51 PM
https://i.imgur.com/4u6WOqE.png

V.S old version


https://i.imgur.com/zQX3h4V.png

First time I get "Baltic" in a test like this.

Leto
09-22-2020, 07:00 PM
They gave me 0% Central European, despite all my ancestry being from Central Europe.
Do you consider Rhineland and Westfalia 'Central Europe'? You aren't from Mitteldeutschland, are you?

Armatus
09-22-2020, 07:04 PM
Do you consider Rhineland and Westfalia 'Central Europe'? You aren't from Mitteldeutschland, are you?

They don't use the geographic definition of Central Europe at FTDNA, they draw a map that shows their Central Europe cluster stretching over Germany, France and Belgium. All my ancestry is from places that are covered by the FTDNA Central Euro cluster, but for some reason I score 0%.

Gallop
09-22-2020, 07:07 PM
Mi actualización

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-7yHx-hCiX1g/X2pJD37vG3I/AAAAAAAAEls/OyWNrSNhBjki-h5_OB3_FsXyoQwBmJ6rwCLcBGAsYHQ/s886/MapeFTDNA2020.jpeg

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-OOD-Sj46zQw/X2pIjjG7PII/AAAAAAAAElQ/PipI7kSOyuATPV0qGBCTXKpHQVACpgcvwCLcBGAsYHQ/s641/AllOriginsPercentages2020.jpg

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-_UqHW7MJTF0/X2pIqPeWb6I/AAAAAAAAElU/ozxf-482LNUkRbEkJBVTnIeXEP0uxD6zACLcBGAsYHQ/s600/AllOriginswESTERNeUROPEPercentages2020.jpg

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/--l9-1O5pp1E/X2pIv3eUMaI/AAAAAAAAElY/ILGI2biUbDEfRf8uOW6tdDkDraTYGrGYwCLcBGAsYHQ/s561/AllOriginsEasternEuropePercentages2020.jpg

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-eZ5SA8jqw9o/X2pIygQ0VdI/AAAAAAAAElc/fUDjkPMFEFsOuTJF8U0q9OIzMXNMSi3VgCLcBGAsYHQ/s591/AllOriginsFinishPercentages2020.jpg


https://c8.alamy.com/compes/erhgy2/el-bailaor-espanol-bailando-y-tocando-las-castanuelas-flores-en-su-cabello-erhgy2.jpg

https://cdn.urgente24.com/sites/default/files/styles/large/public/2019-07/ole.jpg

Adamm
09-22-2020, 07:08 PM
Why is bad for North Africans? I see your results quite good, what is what you don´t like in these new results?

Maghrebis and Egyptians are two distinct populations, Maghreb = EEF + IBM while Egyptians = ELF + Iran_Neolithic, and now they've merged these 2 populations into 1 cluster. I think that's bad! Also they labeled North Africa under the 'Middle East' section, which is also bad because we belong under the Africa section. And then we got the problem of Jewish emphasize which happened in 2.0 and happens now again, and not only it affects MENA ppl but I also see Europeans now suddenly getting Yemenite Jewish ancestry. It just doesn't make sense at all to me.

gixajo
09-22-2020, 07:14 PM
Maghrebis and Egyptians are two distinct populations, Maghreb = EEF + IBM while Egyptians = ELF + Iran_Neolithic, and now they've merged these 2 populations into 1 cluster. I think that's bad! Also they labeled North Africa under the 'Middle East' section, which is also bad because we belong under the Africa section. And then we got the problem of Jewish emphasize which happened in 2.0 and happens now again, and not only it affects MENA ppl but I also see Europeans now suddenly getting Yemenite Jewish ancestry. It just doesn't make sense at all to me.

Yeah that Middle East label is not very appropiate, I have seen that they labeled as Middle East to Caucasus also.

I only saw a % similar to that you usually score in G25 models and i thought your results were quite good for you, I didn´t analize more.

Rokhan
09-22-2020, 07:15 PM
https://zupimages.net/up/20/39/um0r.png (https://zupimages.net/viewer.php?id=20/39/um0r.png)

Leto
09-22-2020, 07:15 PM
Also they labeled North Africa under the 'Middle East' section, which is also bad because we belong under the Africa section.
So you'd rather see yourself among the Blacks (they come to mind when people hear 'Africa') than among the Arabs which white people will consider you as anyway. In France, Belgium, Holland, Germany, etc. Moroccans are called 'Arabs'.

RyoHazuki
09-22-2020, 07:15 PM
This is not very good for those with French ancestry, as everything is divided into several categories, so here you have to translate "iberian" by "French" and "central europe" by "French". .. We must decipher.

My father, who is purely French, would also be divided between Central Europe and Iberian ...

If I suppose that the Iberian part comes from the French part, that the central European part too, that makes in all 68%, and if I suppose that the Balkan part is also French (I do not see where it can come from) , then that would be 71%

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1217x937q90/922/a0ukAQ.png

Yes, based on 2.0 it's still poor for me too, since I get "Central Europe" and "Iberian". For some reason I still get an absurdly high Eastern European score, G25 and 23andme do not show me as Eastern European at all. It's gotten better for some but also needs a lot of work, hopefully when my 3.0 shows up it improves more...
https://i.imgur.com/CpzPCoT_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

Erronkari
09-22-2020, 07:21 PM
wakanda forever

Ubuntu!!! :thumb001:

Pertoto
09-22-2020, 07:23 PM
For those who converted their dna for uploading to ftdna Warning you !
My Original ftdna kit vs converted version
Original : 0% Maygar
Converted kit -3% maygar (never score any eastern european/balkan/central europe whatever u name it)
Original : 3% Iberian
Converted kit : 6% Iberian
Original : 2% (not sure) Ashkenazi
Converted kit : 7% Ashkenazi

Huge diffrent ofc the Original.more accurate by matches and from my country history. But just warrned u. Better to upload if its allow u, rather than convert and upload. Original are the most accurate forsure.

Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
09-22-2020, 07:35 PM
Very homogenous result, I think this update is good for Iberians. How did your old result look like?

I found what my old results used to look like. They have the option to download an excel sheet with them.

Continent,Population,Percentage´

European,Iberia,54
European,West and Central Europe,17
European,Southeast Europe,10
European,East Europe,4
Middle Eastern,North Africa,7
Middle Eastern,West Middle East,4
Trace Results,Ashkenazi,<1
Trace Results,Finland,<2
Trace Results,Oceania,<1

Graham
09-22-2020, 07:41 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/XYMQ4hgz/image.png

gixajo
09-22-2020, 07:43 PM
I found what my old results used to look like. They have the option to download an excel sheet with them.

Continent,Population,Percentage´

European,Iberia,54
European,West and Central Europe,17
European,Southeast Europe,10
European,East Europe,4
Middle Eastern,North Africa,7
Middle Eastern,West Middle East,4
Trace Results,Ashkenazi,<1
Trace Results,Finland,<2
Trace Results,Oceania,<1

What is your opinion about new version results?

Edit: i didn´t understood well your post, maybe you have not new results.

gixajo
09-22-2020, 07:44 PM
G]

That´s good or bad for you?

Catkin
09-22-2020, 07:46 PM
Western Europe
Ireland. 43%
Scandinavia. 27%
Central Europe. 26%

Southern Europe
Italian Peninsula. 4%


Er... no Great Britain... :p

Graham
09-22-2020, 07:48 PM
That´s good or bad for you?

It's fine for me, but my girlfriends result wasn't good. So don't have confidence in it. There are issues.

Adamm
09-22-2020, 07:48 PM
So you'd rather see yourself among the Blacks (they come to mind when people hear 'Africa') than among the Arabs which white people will consider you as anyway. In France, Belgium, Holland, Germany, etc. Moroccans are called 'Arabs'.

Its not about what people perceive but what facts are, fact is that North Africa = Africa and yes it also shares genetic affinity with Sub-Saharan Africa (Sahel and West Africa have shared ancestry with North Africans). I don't mind people calling me black and lumping me with Sub-Saharan Africans, because after all we share the same continent.

Adamm
09-22-2020, 07:49 PM
I found what my old results used to look like. They have the option to download an excel sheet with them.

Continent,Population,Percentage´

European,Iberia,54
European,West and Central Europe,17
European,Southeast Europe,10
European,East Europe,4
Middle Eastern,North Africa,7
Middle Eastern,West Middle East,4
Trace Results,Ashkenazi,<1
Trace Results,Finland,<2
Trace Results,Oceania,<1

Also in your regard the update is way better.

Albannach
09-22-2020, 07:50 PM
Not very accurate for me, I'm 50% Scottish and 50% Irish, it seems my Scottish ancestry looks mostly Irish to these companies. 0% GB was a surprise, but if GB is just English then it would be accurate. Haven't got a clue about the Central European and Scandinavian, I have no recent ancestry from these areas.

https://i.imgur.com/cAd0H2F.png

gixajo
09-22-2020, 07:52 PM
Western Europe
Ireland. 43%
Scandinavia. 27%
Central Europe. 26%

Southern Europe
Italian Peninsula. 4%


Er... no Great Britain... :p

You get the same that is in your avatar"Celtic+Norse+Germanic".

mitalit
09-22-2020, 07:54 PM
Definitely I will not spend more money on genetic tests (at least until I do it to my parents).
https://i.gyazo.com/130eea895fbdd95d5cf533d1ae7579ca.png
https://i.gyazo.com/42f21b0c40349a4ae8e69104b27a89f4.png

Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
09-22-2020, 07:56 PM
What is your opinion about new version results?

Edit: i didn´t understood well your post, maybe you have not new results.

They are better for me. More aligned with my 23andMe results.

Graham
09-22-2020, 07:58 PM
Not very accurate for me, I'm 50% Scottish and 50% Irish, it seems my Scottish ancestry looks mostly Irish to these companies. 0% GB was a surprise, but if GB is just English then it would be accurate. Haven't got a clue about the Central European and Scandinavian, I have no recent ancestry from these areas.


Same issue as Catkin, Scoring higher Irish and central Europe/Scandinavian as another way of saying Britain or Scotland as they sit between the two groups.

Shouldn't be happening so much now. Shame.

Zoro
09-22-2020, 08:03 PM
One of my relative Iraqi Kurd Kurmanji results updated. Pretty boring but this is to be expected. As more and more references are added people will start to model as 100% their own population. For me fewer references are better because then you can see how you model in terms of other world populations. Most of the NE Asian got absorbed into Iranian because since its old most Iranians carry it.

https://i.imgur.com/BA8pGZE.jpg

Leto
09-22-2020, 08:12 PM
Its not about what people perceive but what facts are, fact is that North Africa = Africa and yes it also shares genetic affinity with Sub-Saharan Africa (Sahel and West Africa have shared ancestry with North Africans). I don't mind people calling me black and lumping me with Sub-Saharan Africans, because after all we share the same continent.
You don't share the opinions of your fellow Moroccan Nassbean, do you? He says it's all Ibero-Maurusian, not black African. You don't look black to me at all if that's you in the photo.

lacreme
09-22-2020, 08:31 PM
The updated results of my Greek friend.

https://i.imgur.com/JtmLq0z.jpg

His 9% west & central europe that he had previously turned to 3% scandinavian.
Also,a wild Sardinia appeared :D , and 10% at that... I wonder how it's possible when of the Italian results that I have seen quite a few have less or even none...

Other than those peculiarities his results look...fine ? Basically a further breakdown of his previous quite generic results of 63% southeast europe, 27% asia minor and 9% west & central europe.

Dušan
09-22-2020, 08:31 PM
User Sorcelow from Anthrogenica scored 100% Greece & Balkans. He is Greek.

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/120079610_361472908316397_6409073576187475415_n.pn g?_nc_cat=108&_nc_sid=b96e70&_nc_ohc=pZNjyc_JiU0AX9o3eXm&_nc_ht=scontent-lga3-1.xx&oh=6dd2291114a8b462fe1d9c9b3aa439c1&oe=5F8EAD29

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 27.04
2 West_Med 18.12
3 Baltic 17.79
4 North_Atlantic 17.66
5 West_Asian 14.32
6 Red_Sea 3.22
7 Amerindian 0.53
8 South_Asian 0.53
9 Siberian 0.41
10 East_Asian 0.37

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek_Thessaly 4.01
2 Central_Greek 7.81
3 Bulgarian 9.2
4 East_Sicilian 9.32
5 Italian_Abruzzo 9.42
6 Ashkenazi 10.64
7 West_Sicilian 11.18
8 Romanian 11.71
9 South_Italian 12.25
10 Tuscan 13.07
11 Serbian 16.03
12 North_Italian 17.44
13 Italian_Jewish 17.58
14 Sephardic_Jewish 17.58
15 Algerian_Jewish 17.64
16 Tunisian_Jewish 20.92
17 Moldavian 21.41
18 Libyan_Jewish 21.44
19 Cyprian 21.9
20 Turkish 22.16

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 70.6% Bulgarian + 29.4% Cyprian @ 1.27
2 65.3% Romanian + 34.7% Cyprian @ 1.59
3 76.3% Bulgarian + 23.7% Lebanese_Christian @ 1.77
4 75.8% Bulgarian + 24.2% Lebanese_Druze @ 2.07
5 57.8% Serbian + 42.2% Cyprian @ 2.13
6 76% Bulgarian + 24% Samaritan @ 2.22
7 71.7% Romanian + 28.3% Lebanese_Christian @ 2.37
8 73.2% Bulgarian + 26.8% Lebanese_Muslim @ 2.45
9 82.2% Central_Greek + 17.8% Southwest_Russian @ 2.46
10 82.2% Central_Greek + 17.8% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.47
11 52.5% Cyprian + 47.5% Hungarian @ 2.58
12 83.9% Central_Greek + 16.1% Erzya @ 2.59
13 52.9% Cyprian + 47.1% Croatian @ 2.72
14 85.2% Central_Greek + 14.8% Lithuanian @ 2.72
15 83.7% Central_Greek + 16.3% Belorussian @ 2.75
16 74.2% South_Italian + 25.8% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.78
17 83.5% Central_Greek + 16.5% Estonian_Polish @ 2.79
18 83.4% Central_Greek + 16.6% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.85
19 71.3% Romanian + 28.7% Samaritan @ 2.88
20 84% Central_Greek + 16% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.9

So "Greece & Balkans" are basically paleo-Balkan with a tiny bit Slavic.

Leto
09-22-2020, 08:36 PM
So "Greece & Balkans" are basically paleo-Balkan with a tiny bit Slavic.
Sorcelow (Coolguy or something on TA) is a mainland Greek.
3 Baltic 17.79
4 North_Atlantic 17.66
A substantial amount of Northern blood.

Ion Basescul
09-22-2020, 08:44 PM
User Sorcelow from Anthrogenica scored 100% Greece & Balkans. He is Greek.

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/120079610_361472908316397_6409073576187475415_n.pn g?_nc_cat=108&_nc_sid=b96e70&_nc_ohc=pZNjyc_JiU0AX9o3eXm&_nc_ht=scontent-lga3-1.xx&oh=6dd2291114a8b462fe1d9c9b3aa439c1&oe=5F8EAD29

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 27.04
2 West_Med 18.12
3 Baltic 17.79
4 North_Atlantic 17.66
5 West_Asian 14.32
6 Red_Sea 3.22
7 Amerindian 0.53
8 South_Asian 0.53
9 Siberian 0.41
10 East_Asian 0.37

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek_Thessaly 4.01
2 Central_Greek 7.81
3 Bulgarian 9.2
4 East_Sicilian 9.32
5 Italian_Abruzzo 9.42
6 Ashkenazi 10.64
7 West_Sicilian 11.18
8 Romanian 11.71
9 South_Italian 12.25
10 Tuscan 13.07
11 Serbian 16.03
12 North_Italian 17.44
13 Italian_Jewish 17.58
14 Sephardic_Jewish 17.58
15 Algerian_Jewish 17.64
16 Tunisian_Jewish 20.92
17 Moldavian 21.41
18 Libyan_Jewish 21.44
19 Cyprian 21.9
20 Turkish 22.16

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 70.6% Bulgarian + 29.4% Cyprian @ 1.27
2 65.3% Romanian + 34.7% Cyprian @ 1.59
3 76.3% Bulgarian + 23.7% Lebanese_Christian @ 1.77
4 75.8% Bulgarian + 24.2% Lebanese_Druze @ 2.07
5 57.8% Serbian + 42.2% Cyprian @ 2.13
6 76% Bulgarian + 24% Samaritan @ 2.22
7 71.7% Romanian + 28.3% Lebanese_Christian @ 2.37
8 73.2% Bulgarian + 26.8% Lebanese_Muslim @ 2.45
9 82.2% Central_Greek + 17.8% Southwest_Russian @ 2.46
10 82.2% Central_Greek + 17.8% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.47
11 52.5% Cyprian + 47.5% Hungarian @ 2.58
12 83.9% Central_Greek + 16.1% Erzya @ 2.59
13 52.9% Cyprian + 47.1% Croatian @ 2.72
14 85.2% Central_Greek + 14.8% Lithuanian @ 2.72
15 83.7% Central_Greek + 16.3% Belorussian @ 2.75
16 74.2% South_Italian + 25.8% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.78
17 83.5% Central_Greek + 16.5% Estonian_Polish @ 2.79
18 83.4% Central_Greek + 16.6% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.85
19 71.3% Romanian + 28.7% Samaritan @ 2.88
20 84% Central_Greek + 16% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.9

Bulgarians also get 100% Greece & Balkans

https://anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?14203-MyOrigin-3-0-Update&p=702282&viewfull=1#post702282

Ion Basescul
09-22-2020, 08:49 PM
So "Greece & Balkans" are basically paleo-Balkan with a tiny bit Slavic.

It seems to peak around Southern Bulgaria and Northern Greece. I'm surprised that that family of 5 Bulgarians that I posted above all got 100% Greece & Balkans.

Dušan
09-22-2020, 08:53 PM
It seems to peak around Southern Bulgaria and Northern Greece. I'm surprised that that family of 5 Bulgarians that I posted above all got 100% Greece & Balkans.

So center is entire geographic region of Thrace and maybe Macedonia.

Ion Basescul
09-22-2020, 08:58 PM
So center is entire geographic region of Thrace and maybe Macedonia.

It seems like that for now. We need more results to have a clearer picture.

vbnetkhio
09-22-2020, 09:02 PM
So "Greece & Balkans" are basically paleo-Balkan with a tiny bit Slavic.

5 57.8% Serbian + 42.2% Cyprian @ 2.13

and the Serbian reference is something like 50% Slavic, so it could include up to 20-30% Slavic.

Dušan
09-22-2020, 09:11 PM
5 57.8% Serbian + 42.2% Cyprian @ 2.13

and the Serbian reference is something like 50% Slavic, so it could include up to 20-30% Slavic.

Our old reference on Gedmatch is not very accurate, as you already know. I doubt it is over 50% Slavic.

This is better mixed mode
9 82.2% Central_Greek + 17.8% Southwest_Russian @ 2.46
10 82.2% Central_Greek + 17.8% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.47

Ion Basescul
09-22-2020, 09:16 PM
So center is entire geographic region of Thrace and maybe Macedonia.

Just trying to recreate my results. Something like this perhaps


<tbody>
Target: IonBasescul_23andme+LivingDNA
Distance: 2.1054% / 2.10538908 | ADC: 0.25x




59.0
Slovak


33.0
Macedonian_East


5.8
Armenian_East


2.2
Evenki

</tbody>


<tbody>
Target: IonBasescul_23andme+LivingDNA
Distance: 2.3794% / 2.37940018 | ADC: 0.25x




59.4
Slovak


34.6
Bulgarian_Plovdiv


3.4
Armenian_East


2.6
Evenki


</tbody>


<tbody>
Target: IonBasescul_23andme+LivingDNA
Distance: 2.2452% / 2.24517114 | ADC: 0.25x




63.4
Slovak


31.8
Bulgarian_Thrace


2.6
Turk_East


2.0
Evenki


0.2
Irish

</tbody>

https://i.ibb.co/m4kPcSQ/image.png

vbnetkhio
09-22-2020, 09:24 PM
Our old reference on Gedmatch is not very accurate, as you already know. I doubt it is over 50% Slavic.

This is better mixed mode
9 82.2% Central_Greek + 17.8% Southwest_Russian @ 2.46
10 82.2% Central_Greek + 17.8% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.47

it's bad but it isn't too far from 50, it's 48 or 49 maybe.

central Greeks also have a bit of Slavic, so it still adds up to 20% or more.

17571imre
09-22-2020, 09:24 PM
my FTDNA page does not load

vbnetkhio
09-22-2020, 09:42 PM
So center is entire geographic region of Thrace and maybe Macedonia.

maybe it peaks in Albanians, like 23andme's Greek&Balkan, while Ancestry's and MyHeritage's Balkan peaks in Serbs.

ph2ter
09-22-2020, 09:47 PM
I was 100% East Europe before.

https://i.imgur.com/diQQJrY.png

Luke35
09-22-2020, 09:59 PM
my FTDNA page does not load

Mine won't load anymore, I just tried. We broke their website.

JosephK
09-22-2020, 10:12 PM
Mine won't load anymore, I just tried. We broke their website.

Yeah I've been having problems all day...

vbnetkhio
09-22-2020, 10:14 PM
it looks like the "East Slavic" peaks in Tatars instead of actual East Slavs. :rolleyes:

Tatar result:
https://i.imgur.com/n8nTeU4h.png

Russian+Ukrainian:
https://i.postimg.cc/g0yrhqSF/r-GK9g1-Qtls-2.jpg

what about the "Magyar" component? do Hungarian users here get 100% of it?

Erronkari
09-22-2020, 10:17 PM
Well, at least it gave me specific regions this time.

https://i.postimg.cc/1RWvpKvJ/ftdna-ltimoup.jpg (https://postimg.cc/3Wvjh25v)

Leto
09-22-2020, 10:21 PM
it looks like the "East Slavic" peaks in Tatars instead of actual East Slavs. :rolleyes:

Tatar result:
https://i.imgur.com/n8nTeU4h.png

My mom got 95% East Slavic. And another kit I have (totally unrelated to my family) which is half Southern Russian from Krasnodar krai (with possible Cossack roots) and half Tatar from Bashkiria got the following results:
82% East Slavic, 8% Baltic, 5% Mongolian, <1% West Siberian plains, 4% North Caucasian
I think they just took a bunch of self-reported Russians and used them for their East Slavic cluster. And some or many of those Russians might have been like my mom or even further to the East. Hell knows where they took their samples from.
The Volga Tatars are considered East European on 23andme as well.

Ryujin
09-22-2020, 10:55 PM
Holy shit; they seem to be still tampering with my DNA sample. :lol: I was like %41 Anatolian before, now it seems to have dropped to %13. Also I scored like over %20 East European, but not it puts me mainly on the Italian peninsula.

And I somehow got a little Irish component. Must be because I like Irish pubs. :drink3:

https://i.imgur.com/HG0L7ht.png
https://i.imgur.com/mrethSI.png

Mortimer
09-23-2020, 06:30 AM
My myorigins page wont load. Im really pissed that I cant view it. Maybe in a day if they fix it.

Ford
09-23-2020, 07:24 AM
lmao

https://i.imgur.com/pUIXN8p.png

Dušan
09-23-2020, 07:55 AM
5 57.8% Serbian + 42.2% Cyprian @ 2.13

and the Serbian reference is something like 50% Slavic, so it could include up to 20-30% Slavic.

Could you post your new FTDNA 3.0 result to compare, since our K13 results are very similar?

vbnetkhio
09-23-2020, 08:02 AM
Could you post your new FTDNA 3.0 result to compare, since our K13 results are very similar?

i didn't test on FTDNA.

i could unlock the results for 19$, do you think it's worth it?

Chris596
09-23-2020, 08:51 AM
it looks like the "East Slavic" peaks in Tatars instead of actual East Slavs. :rolleyes:

Tatar result:
https://i.imgur.com/n8nTeU4h.png

Russian+Ukrainian:
https://i.postimg.cc/g0yrhqSF/r-GK9g1-Qtls-2.jpg

what about the "Magyar" component? do Hungarian users here get 100% of it?

Check the first page of this thread. I got 0% Magyar (but ethnically I'm almost 100% Hungarian)

Well, the good thing is that I score almost like a full Serb (which was proven many times by my autosomal results too).

I just have some extra Northwest European & Jewish which pops up almost everywhere. But I have no idea where did they come from.

Jackson78
09-23-2020, 06:01 PM
https://i.imgur.com/BY4c1mM.png

https://i.imgur.com/FcKbnnm.png

Mortimer
09-24-2020, 04:10 AM
Svetozar Plemic
Europe 79%
Southern Europe
Greece & Balkans 72%
Italian Peninsula 7%
Asia 15%
Indian Subcontinent
Northern India 8%
Eastern India 7%
Middle East 6%
Middle East
Anatolia, Armenia, & Mesopotamia <4%
Sephardic Jewish <3%
Middle East Jewish
Mizrahi Jewish <1%