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Ahaddad
09-24-2020, 01:55 AM
Here my cousin half Lebanese/half north Italian

Very very strange



Middle East
63%

Anatolia, Armenia, & Mesopotamia
47%

Southern Levant
14%

Northern Levant
0%

Sephardic Jewish
<2%

Europe
37%

Southern Europe
27%

Iberian Peninsula
27%

Western Europe
10%

Central Europe
10%

Ahaddad
09-24-2020, 01:56 AM
Very strange, my cousin half Lebanese has 0% north levant (Lebanon) and 14% southern levant (Jordanian, Palestine), for other side has 43% Mesopotamian, it's possibly that 14% southern levant plus 14% southerner levant give a average of North levant ????

From Europe side he is half north Italian and also marked 0% Italian, marked Iberian and other places of Europe. He is very confused

Dr_Maul
09-24-2020, 02:35 AM
Yes this abortion of an update is not very accurate. But I thought this individual was 12.5% Lebanese on their Italian side as well?

Ahaddad
09-24-2020, 02:41 AM
Yes but if u see don't appear Italian too

Chaos One
09-24-2020, 02:43 AM
Yes but if u see don't appear Italian too

As it seems, all North Italian moved into Iberian, same with me.

Ahaddad
09-24-2020, 02:50 AM
As it seems, all North Italian moved into Iberian, same with me.

You think 14% southern levant more 47% Mesopotamia give a north levant average ? Lebanese I mean

Chaos One
09-24-2020, 04:13 AM
You think 14% southern levant more 47% Mesopotamia give a north levant average ? Lebanese I mean

I think you cannot take those results on a serious note, they don't fit with many other I do have and seems to be that same problem happened with many other users.

Ahaddad
09-24-2020, 04:45 AM
I think you cannot take those results on a serious note, they don't fit with many other I do have and seems to be that same problem happened with many other users.

Yes if u see his G25 or gedmatch get normal results

Fadiscaled,0.086506,0.137096,-0.019233,-0.039083,0.006155,-0.01004,-0.002585,-0.011538,0.006954,0.01221,-0.003897,-0.003597,-0.000446,0.003716,0.0057,-0.001724,-0.016559,0.000507,0.003645,-0.005127,0.00025,0.007666,-0.001109,-0.000241,-0.004311

Fadi,0.0076,0.0135,-0.0051,-0.0121,0.002,-0.0036,-0.0011,-0.005,0.0034,0.0067,-0.0024,-0.0024,-0.0003,0.0027,0.0042,-0.0013,-0.0127,0.0004,0.0029,-0.0041,0.0002,0.0062,-0.0009,-0.0002,-0.0036



sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 29.79
2 West_Med 18.46
3 West_Asian 17.52
4 North_Atlantic 16.41
5 Red_Sea 6.18
6 Baltic 4.87
7 Northeast_African 3.58
8 South_Asian 1.69
9 Amerindian 1.05
10 Oceanian 0.44

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 South_Italian 6.13
2 East_Sicilian 6.17
3 Central_Greek 7.24
4 Italian_Abruzzo 8.13
5 Sephardic_Jewish 8.86
6 West_Sicilian 9.15
7 Ashkenazi 9.39
8 Italian_Jewish 10.25
9 Algerian_Jewish 10.77
10 Tunisian_Jewish 11.91
11 Libyan_Jewish 12.18
12 Greek_Thessaly 12.98
13 Cyprian 14.46
14 Tuscan 15.04
15 Lebanese_Muslim 15.82
16 Turkish 16.38
17 Syrian 16.73
18 Jordanian 19.44
19 Palestinian 20.39
20 Samaritan 20.46

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 69.3% Lebanese_Muslim + 30.7% Southwest_French @ 3.25
2 68.1% Lebanese_Muslim + 31.9% Spanish_Cantabria @ 3.27
3 66.5% Lebanese_Muslim + 33.5% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 3.28
4 64.9% Lebanese_Muslim + 35.1% Spanish_Andalucia @ 3.32
5 66.4% Lebanese_Muslim + 33.6% Spanish_Cataluna @ 3.33
6 66.2% Lebanese_Muslim + 33.8% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 3.39
7 64.6% Lebanese_Muslim + 35.4% Portuguese @ 3.44
8 65.2% Lebanese_Muslim + 34.8% Spanish_Murcia @ 3.51
9 66% Lebanese_Muslim + 34% Spanish_Valencia @ 3.51
10 64.3% Lebanese_Muslim + 35.7% Spanish_Extremadura @ 3.54
11 57.4% Lebanese_Muslim + 42.6% North_Italian @ 3.57
12 72.4% Italian_Abruzzo + 27.6% Jordanian @ 3.58
13 55.6% Kurdish_Jewish + 44.4% Portuguese @ 3.68
14 69.3% Italian_Abruzzo + 30.7% Syrian @ 3.69
15 68.5% Lebanese_Muslim + 31.5% Spanish_Aragon @ 3.69
16 57.4% Kurdish_Jewish + 42.6% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 3.7
17 65.7% Lebanese_Muslim + 34.3% Spanish_Galicia @ 3.72
18 56% Kurdish_Jewish + 44% Spanish_Andalucia @ 3.76
19 57.8% Kurdish_Jewish + 42.2% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 3.79
20 56.3% Kurdish_Jewish + 43.7% Spanish_Murcia @ 3.82

pompandy
09-24-2020, 05:21 AM
Very strange, my cousin half Lebanese has 0% north levant (Lebanon) and 14% southern levant (Jordanian, Palestine), for other side has 43% Mesopotamian, it's possibly that 14% southern levant plus 14% southerner levant give a average of North levant ????

From Europe side he is half north Italian and also marked 0% Italian, marked Iberian and other places of Europe. He is very confused

Maybe, some genetic tests work with a pendulum effect but also a lot of Lebanese muslims have Mesopotamian ancestry.

Pertoto
09-24-2020, 05:59 AM
I deleted my Living Dna, Myheritage and ofcourse Ftdna. for me right now only Ancestry and 23andme are accurate and academic. the rest should find another job...

Ahaddad
09-24-2020, 06:03 AM
I deleted my Living Dna, Myheritage and ofcourse Ftdna. for me right now only Ancestry and 23andme are accurate and academic. the rest should find another job...

Good ideia, Gedmatch its most accurate to me and also g25

Ahaddad
09-24-2020, 06:13 AM
Now Ftdna results to full Lebanese Christian.

Middle East
86%


Anatolia, Armenia, & Mesopotamia
36%

Southern Levant
7%

Sephardic Jewish
19%

Northern Levant
13%

Arabia
4%

Arabian Peninsula
<3%

Yemenite Jewish
<2%

Middle East Jewish
8%

Mizrahi Jewish
8%

Europe
14%

Southern Europe
10%

Greece & Balkans
10%

European Jewish
4%

Ashkenazi Jewish
4%

Pertoto
09-24-2020, 06:16 AM
Good ideia, Gedmatch its most accurate to me and also g25

thats right but another thing that not much people know. is that ftdna when u upload to gedmatch. the gedmatch calculators doesnt read all your snps. like for example if K13 should read as 100% 180,000 Snps in the calculator. with ftdna kit they read just 77,000 thats mean 40% of ur snps only read. so according to that even gedmatch calculators wont show u your full and real results.

also for living dna also for myheritage.

Ancestry got the best Data. you upload it and all your snps read in every calculator. also you dont need calculators if you tested by them...

Ahaddad
09-24-2020, 06:17 AM
Now Ftdna results to full Lebanese Christian.

Middle East
86%


Anatolia, Armenia, & Mesopotamia
36%

Southern Levant
7%

Sephardic Jewish
19%

Northern Levant
13%

Arabia
4%

Arabian Peninsula
<3%

Yemenite Jewish
<2%

Middle East Jewish
8%

Mizrahi Jewish
8%

Europe
14%

Southern Europe
10%

Greece & Balkans
10%

European Jewish
4%

Ashkenazi Jewish
4%

Gedmatch

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 45.45
2 West_Asian 21.2
3 West_Med 13.85
4 Red_Sea 9.45
5 North_Atlantic 6.05
6 South_Asian 1.87
7 Northeast_African 0.87
8 Oceanian 0.57
9 Amerindian 0.26
10 East_Asian 0.23
11 Baltic 0.2

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Lebanese_Druze 4.28
2 Lebanese_Christian 5.42
3 Lebanese_Muslim 5.86
4 Samaritan 6.78
5 Cyprian 7.3
6 Syrian 8.7
7 Palestinian 9.52
8 Kurdish_Jewish 10.42
9 Jordanian 10.6
10 Iranian_Jewish 10.68
11 Tunisian_Jewish 12.05
12 Assyrian 12.27
13 Libyan_Jewish 13.03
14 Sephardic_Jewish 14.34
15 Italian_Jewish 15.51
16 Algerian_Jewish 16.02
17 Georgian_Jewish 16.21
18 Bedouin 16.4
19 Turkish 17.9
20 Armenian 18.48

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 65% Lebanese_Druze + 35% Cyprian @ 1.98
2 92.7% Lebanese_Druze + 7.3% Sardinian @ 2.19
3 60.5% Lebanese_Druze + 39.5% Lebanese_Muslim @ 2.53
4 84.5% Lebanese_Druze + 15.5% South_Italian @ 2.53
5 80.7% Lebanese_Druze + 19.3% Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.62
6 82.6% Lebanese_Druze + 17.4% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.7
7 78.3% Lebanese_Druze + 21.7% Tunisian_Jewish @ 2.77
8 79.7% Lebanese_Druze + 20.3% Libyan_Jewish @ 2.79
9 82.6% Lebanese_Druze + 17.4% Italian_Jewish @ 2.83
10 86.3% Lebanese_Druze + 13.7% East_Sicilian @ 2.84
11 95.1% Lebanese_Druze + 4.9% French_Basque @ 2.85
12 88.3% Lebanese_Druze + 11.7% West_Sicilian @ 2.88
13 87.1% Lebanese_Druze + 12.9% Central_Greek @ 2.91
14 93.6% Lebanese_Druze + 6.4% Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.95
15 88.6% Lebanese_Druze + 11.4% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.98
16 94% Lebanese_Druze + 6% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 3.01
17 94.3% Lebanese_Druze + 5.7% Spanish_Aragon @ 3.02
18 93.6% Lebanese_Druze + 6.4% Spanish_Extremadura @ 3.03
19 94.3% Lebanese_Druze + 5.7% Spanish_Cantabria @ 3.03
20 94.5% Lebanese_Druze + 5.5% Southwest_French @ 3.05

Ahaddad
09-24-2020, 06:20 AM
Now Ftdna results to full Lebanese Christian.

Middle East
86%


Anatolia, Armenia, & Mesopotamia
36%

Southern Levant
7%

Sephardic Jewish
19%

Northern Levant
13%

Arabia
4%

Arabian Peninsula
<3%

Yemenite Jewish
<2%

Middle East Jewish
8%

Mizrahi Jewish
8%

Europe
14%

Southern Europe
10%

Greece & Balkans
10%

European Jewish
4%

Ashkenazi Jewish
4%

Gedmatch

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 45.45
2 West_Asian 21.2
3 West_Med 13.85
4 Red_Sea 9.45
5 North_Atlantic 6.05
6 South_Asian 1.87
7 Northeast_African 0.87
8 Oceanian 0.57
9 Amerindian 0.26
10 East_Asian 0.23
11 Baltic 0.2

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Lebanese_Druze 4.28
2 Lebanese_Christian 5.42
3 Lebanese_Muslim 5.86
4 Samaritan 6.78
5 Cyprian 7.3
6 Syrian 8.7
7 Palestinian 9.52
8 Kurdish_Jewish 10.42
9 Jordanian 10.6
10 Iranian_Jewish 10.68
11 Tunisian_Jewish 12.05
12 Assyrian 12.27
13 Libyan_Jewish 13.03
14 Sephardic_Jewish 14.34
15 Italian_Jewish 15.51
16 Algerian_Jewish 16.02
17 Georgian_Jewish 16.21
18 Bedouin 16.4
19 Turkish 17.9
20 Armenian 18.48

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 65% Lebanese_Druze + 35% Cyprian @ 1.98
2 92.7% Lebanese_Druze + 7.3% Sardinian @ 2.19
3 60.5% Lebanese_Druze + 39.5% Lebanese_Muslim @ 2.53
4 84.5% Lebanese_Druze + 15.5% South_Italian @ 2.53
5 80.7% Lebanese_Druze + 19.3% Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.62
6 82.6% Lebanese_Druze + 17.4% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.7
7 78.3% Lebanese_Druze + 21.7% Tunisian_Jewish @ 2.77
8 79.7% Lebanese_Druze + 20.3% Libyan_Jewish @ 2.79
9 82.6% Lebanese_Druze + 17.4% Italian_Jewish @ 2.83
10 86.3% Lebanese_Druze + 13.7% East_Sicilian @ 2.84
11 95.1% Lebanese_Druze + 4.9% French_Basque @ 2.85
12 88.3% Lebanese_Druze + 11.7% West_Sicilian @ 2.88
13 87.1% Lebanese_Druze + 12.9% Central_Greek @ 2.91
14 93.6% Lebanese_Druze + 6.4% Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.95
15 88.6% Lebanese_Druze + 11.4% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.98
16 94% Lebanese_Druze + 6% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 3.01
17 94.3% Lebanese_Druze + 5.7% Spanish_Aragon @ 3.02
18 93.6% Lebanese_Druze + 6.4% Spanish_Extremadura @ 3.03
19 94.3% Lebanese_Druze + 5.7% Spanish_Cantabria @ 3.03
20 94.5% Lebanese_Druze + 5.5% Southwest_French @ 3.05

Ahaddad
09-24-2020, 06:22 AM
thats right but another thing that not much people know. is that ftdna when u upload to gedmatch. the gedmatch calculators doesnt read all your snps. like for example if K13 should read as 100% 180,000 Snps in the calculator. with ftdna kit they read just 77,000 thats mean 40% of ur snps only read. so according to that even gedmatch calculators wont show u your full and real results.

also for living dna also for myheritage.

Ancestry got the best Data. you upload it and all your snps read in every calculator. also you dont need calculators if you tested by them...

And g25? To me very accurate

Kyp
09-24-2020, 06:51 AM
Any my IranAzerbaijani father scored Northern Levant :D
But I think because it lacks Iranian sample.

Anatolia, Armenia, & Mesopotamia
68%
Northern Levant
18%

Indus Valley
6%

Mongolia
6%

Baltic
<2%
West Slavic
<1%

Anatolia/Armenia predominantly + Northern Levant + Indus Valley probably equals Iranian