23andMe 5.9 Update

[Dr_Maul]

If you get a kit now, it will be done using the new 5.9 version. Still no word on when the previous samples will be updated. Apparently it is supposed to remove the "unassigned" as well as the "Broadly X" parts as much as possible. Here are some examples of it posted on Reddit. It seems to be extremely accurate with barely any unassigned and Broadly.


https://i.redd.it/yu2f97qts0p51.jpg

https://i.redd.it/qpe54xjtwvo51.jpg

https://i.redd.it/6v8crimqsro51.jpg

[Rgvgjhvv]

You got me excited

[Pertoto]

I always knew that 23andMe are the best. do they accpet ancestry upload ?

[Dr_Maul]

I always knew that 23andMe are the best. do they accpet ancestry upload ?

As far as I know, no. But yes it is definitely the best ancestry company overall

[El_Abominacion]

I always knew that 23andMe are the best. do they accpet ancestry upload ?

They did for a brief period in 2018, it was called 'discover23' and people who'd tested with ancestry could upload their raw data during the 1week window. I still have my second 23andme report from that, it's a bit off but it still goes through updates like a normal result

[Rædwald]

Apparently it is supposed to remove the "unassigned" as well as the "Broadly X" parts as much as possible.

https://i.postimg.cc/NFQv0s71/Capture.png

I hope the fuck it do :coffee:

[Figaro]

My father’s account always had some of the highest broadly NW euro I’ve ever seen. Looking forward to the update.

[Dr_Maul]

https://i.postimg.cc/NFQv0s71/Capture.png

I hope the fuck it do :coffee:

Yeah same, most of the new samples out straight up have 0% Broadly so this should be a good update

[Rgvgjhvv]

My "broadly" results from earlier update:

8.3% Broadly Southern European
0.4% Broadly Northwestern European
0.3% Broadly European

5.9% Broadly Northern West Asian
4.8% Broadly Western Asian & North African

0.2% Broadly Sub-Saharan African

Not too bad but still roughly 20% of my results, so they do pile up.

[Dr_Maul]

My "broadly" results from earlier update:

8.3% Broadly Southern European
0.4% Broadly Northwestern European
0.3% Broadly European

5.9% Broadly Northern West Asian
4.8% Broadly Western Asian & North African

0.2% Broadly Sub-Saharan African

Not too bad but still roughly 20% of my results, so they do pile up.

Don't forget it should also remove the unassigned as well (if you have any)
Comes out for me as:

6.6% Broadly Northern West Asian
1.6% Broadly Arab, Egyptian and Levantine
1.5% Broadly Western Asian and North African

1.7% Broadly Central Asian, Northern Indian and Pakistani
1.9% Broadly Central and South Asian

2.6% Unassigned

About 10-15% Total Broadly+Unassigned, not too bad but still a decent amount to look forward to

[El_Abominacion]

Hoping that this update comes out soon and isn't massively delayed, it's been over a year at this point

Maybe they'll reduce my 35.6% broadly + unassigned :shrug:

[Mixdguy17]

This is amazing, Since latinos score so much unassigned and a lot of broadly "x" category, so this is gonna be good. Do u know when it will come out?.

[Dr_Maul]

This is amazing, Since latinos score so much unassigned and a lot of broadly "x" category, so this is gonna be good. Do u know when it will come out?.

Sometime this October I assume. Any kit sent in after the past 3 weeks already has the updated chip when the results arrive.

[Mixdguy17]

Sometime this October I assume. Any kit sent in after the past 3 weeks already has the updated chip when the results arrive.

Awesome man, Thanks!.

[mena]

If you get a kit now, it will be done using the new 5.9 version. Still no word on when the previous samples will be updated. Apparently it is supposed to remove the "unassigned" as well as the "Broadly X" parts as much as possible. Here are some examples of it posted on Reddit. It seems to be extremely accurate with barely any unassigned and Broadly.


https://i.redd.it/yu2f97qts0p51.jpg

https://i.redd.it/qpe54xjtwvo51.jpg

https://i.redd.it/6v8crimqsro51.jpg


finally bro i ridiculed 23andme for its broadly and unassigned fluff thats why i always liked livingdna best

[Kaspias]

I wonder if this update will change the region assignments. I don't care admixture breakdown tbh.

[Thracian]

I wonder if this update will change the region assignments. I don't care admixture breakdown tbh.

Probably. They changed mine 4 times lol.

I agree with you. I do not have any expectation for more accurate update after seeing a Turkish result from Deliorman (and comparing his results with Gedmatch).

[calxpal]

I have 9.0% Broadly Northwest European, 5.0% Broadly Southern European, 4.5% Broadly European, and 0.8% Broadly WA/NA. I hope my broadly stuff becomes less broad and gets assigned with the 5.9 update :cool:. I think 19.3% Broadly is a fair amount....

[Aren]

I feel like it still caters to Europeans more so. The Middle Eastern regions are a joke. Anatolia, Iran and Mesopotamia are lumped together but French/German, British and Scandinavian are split.

[Kaspias]

Probably. They changed mine 4 times lol.

I agree with you. I do not have any expectation for more accurate update after seeing a Turkish result from Deliorman (and comparing his results with Gedmatch).

Yes. He was much more Northern shifted than both of us and got 45% Anatolian. 23andme has problems with Central Asian component. It is like people who have more East Eurasian gets more Anatolian because Central Asian one is not effective enough. Anyway, we already know our actual breakdown(3/4 Balkan + 1/4 Turkmen etc.) so no need to make an expectation on it.

What is interesting to see the regions we matched with. Relativity gives certain clues about possible origins such as Muğla and Konya that I have now. Unfortunately, no region in the Balkans, which is kind of weird.

[mitalit]

I'm excited, I thought it wasn't going to change much but it looks good

[Zoro]

If you get a kit now, it will be done using the new 5.9 version. Still no word on when the previous samples will be updated. Apparently it is supposed to remove the "unassigned" as well as the "Broadly X" parts as much as possible. Here are some examples of it posted on Reddit. It seems to be extremely accurate with barely any unassigned and Broadly.


https://i.redd.it/yu2f97qts0p51.jpg

https://i.redd.it/qpe54xjtwvo51.jpg

https://i.redd.it/6v8crimqsro51.jpg


They need to change the unassigned in the 90% confidence result because the 50% confidence results are worth crap.
If you look at your 90% confidence results you’ll notice that there’s something like 10 to 30% unassigned. That’s where all your non-major admixtures are.

Do you know if they have fixed those

[Dr_Maul]

They need to change the unassigned in the 90% confidence result because the 50% confidence results are worth crap.
If you look at your 90% confidence results you’ll notice that there’s something like 10 to 30% unassigned. That’s where all your non-major admixtures are.

Do you know if they have fixed those

Not sure, from what I know it is meant to eliminate 'Broadly' and 'Unassigned' as much as possible. So yes they might also do it at those confidence levels

[wisteria]

I wish they would quit teasing us and just release it already :mad:

But even with 20% broadly here I feel like it’s still the best testing company

[Coastal Elite]

by golly you got old Daco fired up

https://i.imgur.com/eTOO8UW.gif

[EV13Scythian]

As far as I know, no. But yes it is definitely the best ancestry company overall

23 and me has shit raw data though, V5 especially. They have the least tested snps and it seems like they are trying to test even less snps with the whole clearing broadly this or that categories but sneakily calling it a upgrade.

[Dr_Maul]

23 and me has shit raw data though, V5 especially. They have the least tested snps and it seems like they are trying to test even less snps with the whole clearing broadly this or that categories but sneakily calling it a upgrade.

I am not sure about the raw data but the ancestry components are much more accurate than other companies. Just compare that abortion of a service known as FTdna to this, it’s not even in the same league

[RyoHazuki]

It's been nearly a year since my last update, and I can't wait to see how it affects my "broadly" NW European %.

[Celestia]

I'm definitely more excited for this update than I was for AncestryDNA

[samario]

I've got 22.2% broadly and 9.4% unassigned at 50% confidence level = 31.6%

[hmaohma78]

Hope I can get more specifics for my ancestry. Since I got around 21.9% broadly and 10.5% unassigned.

[Mortimer]

Excited

[Dunai]

I can kinda understand that people of mixed ancestry get so much broadly results, but me as a full European, of largely one recent ancestry still get around 18% broadly, which completely baffles me. I hope in both cases the broadly results will get much-much lower. It shouldn't be rocket science anymore to figure out the regions.

[dududud]

Interesting

[Dr_Maul]

Bump with new samples from Reddit. It seems to be able to consistently reduce broadly to 0-2%. Huge difference honestly

1. 1.5% Total Broadly, 0.1% Unassigned (NW Euro)

https://i.ibb.co/xq9Pyrm/l29pf85wkip51.jpg


2. 0.9% Total Broadly, 0.3% Unassigned (3/4 Russian 1/4 Azeri)

https://i.redd.it/6lgt58qtjcp51.jpg

[Rædwald]

Bump with new samples from Reddit. It seems to be able to consistently reduce broadly to 0-2%. Huge difference honestly

1. 1.5% Total Broadly, 0.1% Unassigned (NW Euro)

https://i.ibb.co/xq9Pyrm/l29pf85wkip51.jpg


2. 0.9% Total Broadly, 0.3% Unassigned (3/4 Russian 1/4 Azeri)

https://i.redd.it/6lgt58qtjcp51.jpg


This is a vast improvement, I hope to see these rolling out soon.

[Not a Cop]

This is a vast improvement, I hope to see these rolling out soon.

I wouldn't be so shure, what i loved about 23andme is exactly broadly and unassigned. I mean they had guts to tell that they're not shure and not give out wild results like other companies do.

[Rædwald]

I wouldn't be so shure, what i loved about 23andme is exactly broadly and unassigned. I mean they had guts to tell that they're not shure and not give out wild results like other companies do.

I just don't see how my results could be so vague when users who have a heavily diverse background get solid populations?

[Not a Cop]

I just don't see how my results could be so vague when users who have a heavily diverse background get solid populations?

What are your results? Lots of broadly NW euro? Anyway we don't know how does 23andme works in detail, so it's hard to say.

[JamesBond007]

They did for a brief period in 2018, it was called 'discover23' and people who'd tested with ancestry could upload their raw data during the 1week window. I still have my second 23andme report from that, it's a bit off but it still goes through updates like a normal result

They should do that again it was free the first time but I would pay for it. I already have my AncestryDNA file converted to 23andme format too if that would help.

[JamesBond007]

I wouldn't be so shure, what i loved about 23andme is exactly broadly and unassigned. I mean they had guts to tell that they're not shure and not give out wild results like other companies do.

TheMaestro going to have a coniption fit but not all calculators are good for all people. Eurogenes K13 or Eurogenes K15 works best depending on the ethnicity. All these commercial tests are shit for this reason listed by MyTrueHeritage.com (TheMaestro just had a seizure on the ground !) :


Unlike other companies which try to cater to target audiences pre-conceptions about their identity, MyTrueAncestry focuses in accurately determing one's closest match based on tens of thousands of data samples.

^23andMe and AncestryDNA are full of shit because the 'customer is always right' and they take it the extreme by lying to you about your preconceived notions for instance many Americans would like to believe the Irish or Italian with maybe some Scandinavian and small amounts of native American and black : that is what sells.

Motherfucker the university of UCLA can pinpoint my origins to Britain within 400 KMS accuracy and that was done in 2013 so wtf kind of bullshit is 23andme and AncestryDNA on ? The Frenchman Tolan was able to do the samething but to within 100 KMS closer accuracy about 2 or 3 years ago. Just for the record MyTrueAncestry does not use Eurogenes K15 for its modern populations it just jives with it generally because they took some samples from it and Eurogenes K15 is a really good calculator.

[JamesBond007]

Ooops, I meant mytrueancestry.com not mytrueheritage but I don't really want to promote it since there is no gain in me doing so I'm just correcting myself.

[Dr_Maul]

BUMP with another sample (Wadaad type)

0.3% Total Broadly, 0.2% Unassigned

https://i.redd.it/477swpabo8r51.jpg