Laly's DNA test

[Laly]

I've just ordered a DNA kit, from Peterski's company, including data on ancestry, skin care and nutrigenetics. I am very curious to see the results.

I am counting on you to explain everything, in a language that would be understandable to me. :)

[Tannhauser]

I didn't know that Peterski owns a company.

[Scandal]

which company is that

[Ford]

I didn't know that Peterski owns a company.

It gives Germans 100% Slavic.

[Laly]

Well, it's not of public knowledge, concerning that company?

[Laly]

I didn't know that Peterski owns a company.

:)

[Laly]

which company is that

This is what I bought: https://24genetics.com/en/dna-shop/promo-pack-ancestry-2-reports-adn

[Faklon]

Did you buy another overpriced test that anthrotards have never heard of?

[Damião de Góis]

Any reason for not opting for 23andme?

[Laly]

Any reason for not opting for 23andme?

Peterski recommended me this company. He said it is reliable. :)

[Laly]

Did you buy another overpriced test that anthrotards have never heard of?

Isn't Peterski a reference, here?

[Laly]

Any reason for not opting for 23andme?

Another reason is that I coudn't order 23andme kits from my country, and I think that they do not sell traits reports (such as your skin care and nutrigenetics) to most of European countries.

[Laly]

And the nice and trustworthy Peterski gave me discount codes. :)

[Damião de Góis]

Another reason is that I coudn't order 23andme kits from my country, and I think that they do not sell traits reports (such as your skin care and nutrigenetics) to most of European countries.

I think traits comes with the standard.

https://www.23andme.com/?cvd1=true&slideout=true&vip=true

Basically 23andme is what everyone does, and there's a reason why there's a sub-forum here dedicated to 23andme. You get decent haplogroup information plus raw data. Though recently more people on forums are doing MyHeritage which i think doesn't give haplogroup info. As for the one you did, i've never heard of it, so i can't say if it's good or bad.

[Faklon]

Isn't Peterski a reference, here?

Don't know about genetics but he has a BSc is sock accounts.

Did you pay him too?

[Laly]

I think traits comes with the standard.

https://www.23andme.com/?cvd1=true&slideout=true&vip=true

Basically 23andme is what everyone does, and there's a reason why there's a sub-forum here dedicated to 23andme. You get decent haplogroup information plus raw data. Though recently more people on forums are doing MyHeritage which i think doesn't give haplogroup info. As for the one you did, i've never heard of it, so i can't say if it's good or bad.

Thank you for your explanations. Peterski told me he would be able to find everything for me.

[Laly]

Don't know about genetics but he has a BSc is sock accounts.

Did you pay him too?

Lol, our relationship can't be monetised.

[Faklon]

Lol, our relationship can't be monetised.

Cool

I want to know if I should light a candle for your husband or not.

[Laly]

Cool

I want to know if I should light a candle for your husband or not.

We have a friendly relationship. Why are you trying to make it dirty?

[ShieldWolf]

Skin care and nutrigenetics?

[Faklon]

We have a friendly relationship. Why are you trying to make it dirty?

You have a dirty mind, do you share nudes with Peter?

I was speaking about the money.

[Laly]

You have a dirty mind, do you share nudes with Peter?

I was speaking about the money.

I would never share nudes, I have never shared any picture with Peterski. We have a common interest for Poland.

[Laly]

You have a dirty mind, do you share nudes with Peter?

I was speaking about the money.

Money is dirty. Involving money as an argument in friendship is dirty.

[Luke35]

I don't know anything about this company, my recommendation is always to stick to the mainstream commercial stuff.

Wish you luck with this, I look forward to helping interpret your results.

[Peterski]

Skin care and nutrigenetics?

Skin care report:

https://i.imgur.com/un5EXrG.png

Nutrigenetics report:

https://i.imgur.com/D6liLyZ.png

But with that Promo Pack, you can choose whatever 2 reports you like.

[Laly]

The kit arrived today, four days after it was sent, so I think it was very quick. I didn't opt for express shipping, but it came with FedEx... Anyway, I can't complain about that. :D

In comparison, my husband's kit, from another company, arrived more than a month after the order...

[Laly]

First of all, I would like to thank Peterski for everything he did.

The results seem pretty accurate, but... I am disappointed. :( I'm nothing special, there's nothing exotic, as far as I understand. :cry


Eurogenes K13


Population
North_Atlantic 40.47 Pct
Baltic 19.82 Pct
West_Med 18.67 Pct
West_Asian 1.51 Pct
East_Med 12.5 Pct
Red_Sea 3.87 Pct
South_Asian 2.16 Pct
East_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.12 Pct
Northeast_African 0.87 Pct
Sub-Saharan -


Admix Results (sorted) :

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 40.47
2 Baltic 19.82
3 West_Med 18.67
4 East_Med 12.5
5 Red_Sea 3.87
6 South_Asian 2.16
7 West_Asian 1.51
8 Northeast_African 0.87
9 Oceanian 0.12

Single Population Sharing :

# Population (source) Distance
1 French 4.84
2 South_Dutch 8.14
3 West_German 8.14
4 Spanish_Cataluna 9.92
5 Spanish_Galicia 9.93
6 Portuguese 10.03
7 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 10.52
8 Spanish_Murcia 11.91
9 Austrian 12.06
10 Spanish_Valencia 12.09
11 Spanish_Extremadura 12.12
12 Spanish_Cantabria 12.52
13 Southeast_English 12.84
14 Southwest_French 12.91
15 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 13.03
16 East_German 13.88
17 Southwest_English 14.22
18 Spanish_Andalucia 14.42
19 North_Italian 14.49
20 North_German 14.74

Mixed Mode Population Sharing :

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 69% Portuguese + 31% North_Swedish @ 3.65
2 73.8% Portuguese + 26.2% Southwest_Finnish @ 4.01
3 69.8% Spanish_Murcia + 30.2% Southwest_Finnish @ 4.07
4 64.5% Spanish_Extremadura + 35.5% North_Swedish @ 4.07
5 69.7% Spanish_Galicia + 30.3% North_Swedish @ 4.15
6 65% Spanish_Murcia + 35% North_Swedish @ 4.17
7 92.5% French + 7.5% Belorussian @ 4.17
8 92.5% French + 7.5% Estonian_Polish @ 4.17
9 72.8% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 27.2% Southwest_Finnish @ 4.19
10 54% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 46% Austrian @ 4.2
11 86.3% French + 13.7% Serbian @ 4.21
12 89.2% French + 10.8% Croatian @ 4.23
13 54.3% Spanish_Murcia + 45.7% East_German @ 4.24
14 92.7% French + 7.3% Southwest_Russian @ 4.24
15 92.9% French + 7.1% Russian_Smolensk @ 4.27
16 86.4% French + 13.6% Hungarian @ 4.27
17 91.8% French + 8.2% Ukrainian @ 4.27
18 96.2% French + 3.8% Yemenite_Jewish @ 4.28
19 93.9% French + 6.1% Lithuanian @ 4.28
20 57.9% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 42.1% East_German @ 4.28



Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 Oracle results:


Population
North_Sea 23.44 Pct
Atlantic 29.75 Pct
Baltic 10.93 Pct
Eastern_Euro 5.17 Pct
West_Med 13.56 Pct
West_Asian 2.41 Pct
East_Med 8.56 Pct
Red_Sea 4.04 Pct
South_Asian 1.5 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 0.63 Pct
Sub-Saharan -

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Atlantic 29.75
2 North_Sea 23.44
3 West_Med 13.56
4 Baltic 10.93
5 East_Med 8.56
6 Eastern_Euro 5.17
7 Red_Sea 4.04
8 West_Asian 2.41
9 South_Asian 1.5
10 Northeast_African 0.63
11 Oceanian 0.02

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 French 6.7
2 Spanish_Cataluna 8
3 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 8.41
4 South_Dutch 8.61
5 Spanish_Galicia 9.56
6 Portuguese 9.6
7 Spanish_Murcia 9.78
8 Spanish_Extremadura 10.05
9 Spanish_Valencia 10.85
10 Spanish_Cantabria 11.27
11 Southwest_French 11.31
12 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 11.5
13 Spanish_Aragon 12.29
14 West_German 12.46
15 Southwest_English 12.56
16 Spanish_Andalucia 12.59
17 Austrian 12.79
18 Southeast_English 13.16
19 North_Italian 13.31
20 North_German 13.43

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 63.2% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 36.8% North_German @ 3.78
2 56% Spanish_Valencia + 44% North_German @ 3.96
3 59% Spanish_Murcia + 41% North_German @ 4
4 51.8% Spanish_Andalucia + 48.2% North_German @ 4.01
5 58.3% Spanish_Extremadura + 41.7% North_German @ 4.25
6 73.5% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 26.5% Southwest_Finnish @ 4.25
7 65.4% Spanish_Valencia + 34.6% Swedish @ 4.33
8 67.5% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 32.5% Danish @ 4.38
9 54.4% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 45.6% North_German @ 4.41
10 50.8% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 49.2% South_Dutch @ 4.41
11 73.6% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 26.4% North_Swedish @ 4.45
12 65.7% Spanish_Cataluna + 34.3% North_German @ 4.52
13 61.5% Spanish_Andalucia + 38.5% Swedish @ 4.52
14 57.4% South_Dutch + 42.6% Spanish_Valencia @ 4.53
15 66.8% Spanish_Valencia + 33.2% North_Swedish @ 4.54
16 55.8% Spanish_Andalucia + 44.2% Danish @ 4.56
17 69.9% Spanish_Murcia + 30.1% Southwest_Finnish @ 4.59
18 52.5% Spanish_Aragon + 47.5% North_German @ 4.62
19 56.3% Spanish_Andalucia + 43.7% North_Dutch @ 4.63
20 72.7% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 27.3% Swedish @ 4.63


MDLP K23b:

Population
Amerindian -
Ancestral_Altaic 2.72 Pct
South_Central_Asian 3.29 Pct
Arctic 0.32 Pct
South_Indian 1.37 Pct
Australoid -
Austronesian -
Caucasian 23.43 Pct
Archaic_Human 0.79 Pct
East_African -
East_Siberian -
European_Early_Farmers 30.99 Pct
Khoisan -
Melano_Polynesian -
Archaic_African 0.33 Pct
Near_East 5.78 Pct
North_African 2.55 Pct
Paleo_Siberian -
African_Pygmy -
South_East_Asian -
Subsaharian -
Tungus-Altaic -
European_Hunters_Gatherers 28.44 Pct

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 European_Early_Farmers 30.99
2 European_Hunters_Gatherers 28.44
3 Caucasian 23.43
4 Near_East 5.78
5 South_Central_Asian 3.29
6 Ancestral_Altaic 2.72
7 North_African 2.55
8 South_Indian 1.37
9 Archaic_Human 0.79
10 Archaic_African 0.33
11 Arctic 0.32

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Belgian ( ) 6.55
2 South_German ( ) 6.87
3 Frisian ( ) 7.67
4 English_Kent_GBR ( ) 8.02
5 German-Volga ( ) 8.1
6 English ( ) 8.11
7 Irish ( ) 8.72
8 French ( ) 9.17
9 North_European ( ) 9.28
10 English_Cornwall_GBR ( ) 9.52
11 Dutch ( ) 9.56
12 North_German ( ) 10.1
13 Welsh ( ) 10.39
14 CEU ( ) 10.45
15 Italian_North ( ) 10.62
16 British ( ) 10.87
17 Spanish_Baleares_IBS ( ) 11.19
18 Norwegian_East ( ) 11.25
19 Italian_Bergamo ( ) 11.52
20 Dane ( ) 11.59

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 81.4% French ( ) + 18.6% Palestinian ( ) @ 2.43
2 61% Spanish_Baleares_IBS ( ) + 39% German ( ) @ 2.66
3 55% Austrian ( ) + 45% Spaniard ( ) @ 2.67
4 73.4% Spanish_Baleares_IBS ( ) + 26.6% Latvian ( ) @ 2.7
5 73% Spanish_Baleares_IBS ( ) + 27% Estonian ( ) @ 2.75
6 72.5% Spanish_Baleares_IBS ( ) + 27.5% Balt ( ) @ 2.78
7 54.8% Spaniard ( ) + 45.2% Hungarian_Budapest ( ) @ 2.79
8 56.5% Hungarian_Budapest ( ) + 43.5% Spanish_Castilla_la_Mancha_IBS ( ) @ 2.79
9 59.6% Austrian ( ) + 40.4% Spanish_Murcia_IBS ( ) @ 2.8
10 74.1% Spanish_Baleares_IBS ( ) + 25.9% Lithuanian ( ) @ 2.8
11 71% Spanish_Baleares_IBS ( ) + 29% Russian_Meshtchyora ( ) @ 2.8
12 59.1% Spanish_Extremadura_IBS ( ) + 40.9% Croat_BH ( ) @ 2.8
13 70.2% Spanish_Baleares_IBS ( ) + 29.8% Russian-North-West ( ) @ 2.81
14 50% Spanish_Murcia_IBS ( ) + 50% Hungarian_Budapest ( ) @ 2.81
15 62.4% Austrian ( ) + 37.6% Spanish_Andalucia_IBS ( ) @ 2.83
16 56.3% Spaniard ( ) + 43.7% Czech ( ) @ 2.85
17 58.2% Spanish_Galicia_IBS ( ) + 41.8% Croat_BH ( ) @ 2.87
18 82.1% French ( ) + 17.9% Lebanese ( ) @ 2.87
19 82.4% French ( ) + 17.6% Syrian ( ) @ 2.87
20 52.8% Hungarian_Budapest ( ) + 47.2% Spanish_Andalucia_IBS ( ) @ 2.88



Dodecat Kb12:

Population
Gedrosia 5.12 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African 1.13 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 38.87 Pct
North_European 34.8 Pct
South_Asian 0.96 Pct
East_African 0.73 Pct
Southwest_Asian 6.31 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 12.09 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Atlantic_Med 38.87
2 North_European 34.8
3 Caucasus 12.09
4 Southwest_Asian 6.31
5 Gedrosia 5.12
6 Northwest_African 1.13
7 South_Asian 0.96
8 East_African 0.73

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 French (Dodecad) 7.7
2 French (HGDP) 7.87
3 Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) 12.57
4 Dutch (Dodecad) 13.81
5 Kent (1000Genomes) 13.91
6 N_Italian (Dodecad) 14.15
7 Galicia (1000Genomes) 14.17
8 German (Dodecad) 14.52
9 CEU30 (1000Genomes) 14.56
10 English (Dodecad) 14.59
11 Cornwall (1000Genomes) 15.04
12 Baleares (1000Genomes) 15.41
13 Extremadura (1000Genomes) 15.51
14 Portuguese (Dodecad) 15.53
15 British (Dodecad) 15.56
16 British_Isles (Dodecad) 15.56
17 Cataluna (1000Genomes) 15.81
18 North_Italian (HGDP) 15.96
19 Irish (Dodecad) 17.05
20 Argyll (1000Genomes) 17.1

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 55.4% Galicia (1000Genomes) + 44.6% Hungarians (Behar) @ 2.78
2 53% Hungarians (Behar) + 47% Castilla_La_Mancha (1000Genomes) @ 3.03
3 70.6% Galicia (1000Genomes) + 29.4% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 3.06
4 71.4% Galicia (1000Genomes) + 28.6% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 3.15
5 51.3% Hungarians (Behar) + 48.7% Murcia (1000Genomes) @ 3.17
6 63.2% Castilla_La_Mancha (1000Genomes) + 36.8% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 3.3
7 73.1% Galicia (1000Genomes) + 26.9% Belorussian (Behar) @ 3.33
8 73.2% Galicia (1000Genomes) + 26.8% Russian (Dodecad) @ 3.35
9 69.5% Galicia (1000Genomes) + 30.5% Polish (Dodecad) @ 3.36
10 50.4% Hungarians (Behar) + 49.6% Spanish (Dodecad) @ 3.38
11 89.4% French (Dodecad) + 10.6% Samaritians (Behar) @ 3.39
12 90.7% French (Dodecad) + 9.3% Yemen_Jews (Behar) @ 3.42
13 69% British_Isles (Dodecad) + 31% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) @ 3.47
14 65.7% Murcia (1000Genomes) + 34.3% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 3.48
15 53.1% Extremadura (1000Genomes) + 46.9% Hungarians (Behar) @ 3.48
16 50.5% Castilla_Y_Leon (1000Genomes) + 49.5% Hungarians (Behar) @ 3.48
17 64.8% Murcia (1000Genomes) + 35.2% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 3.48
18 73.7% Galicia (1000Genomes) + 26.3% Russian_B (Behar) @ 3.49
19 90.5% French (HGDP) + 9.5% Yemen_Jews (Behar) @ 3.51
20 69.7% Baleares (1000Genomes) + 30.3% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 3.59


Eurogene K36:

Population
Amerindian -
Arabian 0.16 Pct
Armenian -
Basque 3.12 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 3.21 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan -
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 4.59 Pct
East_Med 0.23 Pct
Eastern_Euro 6.77 Pct
Fennoscandian 4.42 Pct
French 9.55 Pct
Iberian 17.43 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 17.81 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 4.48 Pct
North_African 1.18 Pct
North_Atlantic 10.59 Pct
North_Caucasian -
North_Sea 11.34 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian 1.71 Pct
West_Med 3.41 Pct

[WeirdLookingFellow]

Nothing Amerindian , huh.

Nice results, don't be disappointed - if anything be impressed that you look as you do without any actual exotic admix.

[Jana]

Literally 0% mongoloid, proves how such looks are native to Europe. Congrats on your results, true western European.

[RN97]

We have a friendly relationship. Why are you trying to make it dirty?

Wait... Is your husband that guy from your profile picture? Who is that dude if not? Seems like you're a big fan if not his wife.

[Jana]

closest to central French followed by Swiss Germans on updated K13:

Distance to: Laly

6.04708194 FRA_Central
6.32580430 Pennsylvania_Dutch
6.80819359 Swiss_German
6.90492578 Swiss_German2
7.37714715 FRA_Alsace
7.49466477 FRA_Belgica
7.58582889 French
7.87526507 Swiss_French
8.82006236 IT_Aosta_Valley
10.08317906 Swiss_Italian
10.25862564 FRA_Septimania
10.31428621 Swiss-Italian2
10.96320665 IT_Trentino
11.05642347 Spanish_Cataluna
11.06555466 German_West
11.06897918 Spanish_Galicia
11.19273872 Portuguese
11.20212926 Dutch_South
11.31548055 FRA_Provence
11.73767013 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
12.41377864 IT_Friuli-VG
12.83532625 German
13.14364485 FRA_Armorica
13.32822569 Spanish_Murcia
13.43498790 IT_Piedmont

However distances are big because you're mixed.

[Leto]

Pretty cool. You fit in France very smoothly. How many SNPs were used?

[Leto]

Target: Laly
Distance: 1.9613% / 1.96129325
35.2 Swedish
28.4 Swiss_Italian
17.8 Spanish_Aragon
7.2 French_Basque
6.6 Yemenite_Jewish
3.8 Latvian
0.8 Austroasiatic_Ho
0.2 Chamar

Target: Laly
Distance: 2.7170% / 2.71701868 | ADC: 0.25x
43.0 Swiss_Italian
24.8 Swedish
16.0 Spanish_Galicia
15.2 Pennsylvania_Dutch
0.6 Ethiopian_Tigray
0.4 Austroasiatic_Ho

[Scandal]

Target: Laly(Portuguese+Belgian)
Distance: 1.0586% / 1.05860286
32.0 Cernunnos(Portuguese)
26.4 Blanka(hungarian)
23.6 Graham's_Dad(scottish)
9.2 Gold_fenix(spaniard)
5.6 Salem523(yemeni)
3.2 Adamg(Czech+German)

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?327894-Modeling-yourself-with-other-Apricity-members-using-vahaduo-eurogenes-k13&p=6982945&viewfull=1#post6982945

[RogueState]

lol it's not her husband, it's Eric Zemmour, an Algerian Jew from France, who is a leading intellectual figure on TV shows and in book sales, he is hardcore Right-wing conservative and very anti-Islam.

Salut au passage Laly, j'espère que toi, ton mari et ton bébé allez bien. En fait tes résultats montrent qui si on prend une droite entre la Belgique et le Portugal, et qu'on fait moitié-moitié et bien ça fait de toi une Française (même plus de souche que beaucoup d'autres Français hehe).

[Laly]

Nothing Amerindian , huh.

Nice results, don't be disappointed - if anything be impressed that you look as you do without any actual exotic admix.

Thanks. :)

[Tacitus]

K13: sizeable distance, but literally an even split in ancestry. Don't think I've seen that before.

Target: Laly(Portuguese+Belgian)
Distance: 5.3408% / 5.34077944
50.0 Dutch_South
50.0 Portuguese

[Laly]

Pretty cool. You fit in France very smoothly. How many SNPs were used?

Thank you. :)

You mean that I look very French?

For the SNPs:

Eurogenes K13: 60372 SNPs
Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 : 61153 SNPs
MDLP K23b: 25436 SNPs
Dodecat Kb12: 49135 SNPs
Eurogenes K36: 53947 SNPs

[Laly]

Literally 0% mongoloid, proves how such looks are native to Europe. Congrats on your results, true western European.

Ahah! From which population does it come from then?

[Luke35]

Fantastic Laly!

You do have slightly elevated Red Sea and South Asian, but more the high end of the normal range, I think.

Bottom line: You have a unique look, and there is nothing blaring in the numbers here to explain it except that fully European admix can produce, you :)

On the original GEDmatch runs, Eurogenes K15 does a little better than K13 in matching your known ancestry:

50.8% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 49.2% South_Dutch @ 4.41

[Laly]

Wait... Is your husband that guy from your profile picture? Who is that dude if not? Seems like you're a big fan if not his wife.

It's Eric Zemmour and yes, I'm a great fan. And my husband is not jealous of him.

[RN97]

It's Eric Zemmour and yes, I'm a great fan. And my husband is not jealous of him.

I wasn't implying that lol, I have just no idea who the dude was, yet he is all over your profile. I guess it makes sense now.

[Laly]

Target: Laly
Distance: 1.9613% / 1.96129325
35.2 Swedish
28.4 Swiss_Italian
17.8 Spanish_Aragon
7.2 French_Basque
6.6 Yemenite_Jewish
3.8 Latvian
0.8 Austroasiatic_Ho
0.2 Chamar

Target: Laly
Distance: 2.7170% / 2.71701868 | ADC: 0.25x
43.0 Swiss_Italian
24.8 Swedish
16.0 Spanish_Galicia
15.2 Pennsylvania_Dutch
0.6 Ethiopian_Tigray
0.4 Austroasiatic_Ho

Sorry for my ignorance, but what does the percentage mean? What does ADC mean? What does this reference to Swedes, Swiss, etc. mean? Could you please explain a little?

[Scandal]

Sorry for my ignorance, but what does the percentage mean? What does ADC mean? What does this reference to Swedes, Swiss, etc. mean? Could you please explain a little?

That means your ancestry can be modeled as 35% swedish, 28% swiss_italian, 18% spanish_aragon etc etc.

[Leto]

Thank you. :)

You mean that I look very French?

No, I mean going by those results of yours you are very similar to a lot of ethnic French people.

Sorry for my ignorance, but what does the percentage mean? What does ADC mean? What does this reference to Swedes, Swiss, etc. mean? Could you please explain a little?
That's just an oracle, it models/predicts your possible ethnic makeup with the references it has in store. I'm not sure what ADC stands for but it kinda reduces the number of populations used. I'm talking about Vahaduo, that's what the tool is called.

Are you quarter Portuguese with the rest being Belgian and French?

[Luke35]

Sorry for my ignorance, but what does the percentage mean? What does ADC mean? What does this reference to Swedes, Swiss, etc. mean? Could you please explain a little?

ADC = Add Distance Col. Now, what the hell does that mean, I'm not sure. I can tell you this, when you set it to 0, you get modeled with lots of ethnicities. When you use the higher settings, like 2x, you get modeled at your midpoint, so for you, French. I find .25x and .5x best, because this range seems to pick up my ancestral split, and also exotic admix leanings.

So, all of this is simply modeling. Or simply put, how your specific admix is best represented, according to the algorithm. Does not mean you are 35.2% Swedish or anything like that, not to be taken too literally.

[Laly]

lol it's not her husband, it's Eric Zemmour, an Algerian Jew from France, who is a leading intellectual figure on TV shows and in book sales, he is hardcore Right-wing conservative and very anti-Islam.

Salut au passage Laly, j'espère que toi, ton mari et ton bébé allez bien. En fait tes résultats montrent qui si on prend une droite entre la Belgique et le Portugal, et qu'on fait moitié-moitié et bien ça fait de toi une Française (même plus de souche que beaucoup d'autres Français hehe).

Hello! Thank you for your kind message. I'm very moved you're asking about my husband and my baby. They're doing well and my daughter is wonderful! I wish you're fine too. Do you think I look French?

[Laly]

K13: sizeable distance, but literally an even split in ancestry. Don't think I've seen that before.

Target: Laly(Portuguese+Belgian)
Distance: 5.3408% / 5.34077944
50.0 Dutch_South
50.0 Portuguese

What you wrote seems very interesting, but I'm afraid I don't understand well. What do you mean with that "sizeable distance" and that "even split in ancestry"?

[Luke35]

Laly, what did the commercial company results say?

[Laly]

Fantastic Laly!

You do have slightly elevated Red Sea and South Asian, but more the high end of the normal range, I think.

Bottom line: You have a unique look, and there is nothing blaring in the numbers here to explain it except that fully European admix can produce, you :)

On the original GEDmatch runs, Eurogenes K15 does a little better than K13 in matching your known ancestry:

50.8% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 49.2% South_Dutch @ 4.41

Thank you for your kindness! :)

[Laly]

Laly, what did the commercial company results say?

This is what I got from the company. What should I think about it?

https://i.imgur.com/on4zGRH.png

https://i.imgur.com/WM6ybyC.png

https://i.imgur.com/jhS0ZSz.png

https://i.imgur.com/4hWmYMX.png

https://i.imgur.com/50nBUc5.png

https://i.imgur.com/Ef6497t.png

https://i.imgur.com/KDExkyO.png

https://i.imgur.com/9Zpcqsm.png

[Luke35]

Okay, so for the most part Italy, Portugal, and Spain represent your ancestry from your father. UK and France from your mother, and a little of that Mediterranean ancestry fits on your mom's side too, it's embedded as part of the deep Belgian ancestry. So, not a perfect 50/50 split, but more or less this is the idea.

Again, we can't take these countries that you scored here too literally, it just shows that you match the company references for those countries. In fact, this almost looks like GEDmatch/vahaduo modeling. I imagine Peterski can give us a detailed answer on how this company's algorithm works.

That Mordovia result is very interesting. It could mean nothing, if this is just balanced modeling, resulting in some noise. But it could be something. I'm gonna take a look at your K13/15 Vahaduo, see what evidence there is for minor deep admix there.

[lei.talk]

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.pngFaklon (https://www.theapricity.com/forum/member.php?10305-Faklon&tab=activitystream&type=user) https://www.theapricity.com/forum/images/buttons/viewpost-right.png (https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?333403-Laly-s-DNA-test/page2&p=6910501#post6910501) I want to know if I should light a candle for your husband or not...do you share nudes with Peterski (https://www.theapricity.com/forum/member.php?12197-Peterski)?




déclassé :tsk:

[Dick]

It gives Germans 100% Slavic.

https://i.imgur.com/QONVIyz.gif

[Faklon]

Mordovia is the answer

You are a swarthier Western Udmurt beauty, aspiring member of FEMEN Benelux

[Luke35]

So I took a look using the Eurogenes K15 Vahaduo tool. Because of the Mordavian finding, I explored that, and this is what I found..

First I tried simply using Belgium and Portuguese:

Target: Laly
Distance: 6.8583% / 6.85832526
53.4 Portuguese
46.6 Belgium

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Now I tried adding Russian, because there is not a Mordavian reference:

Target: Laly
Distance: 5.8596% / 5.85957403
54.8 Portuguese
33.6 Belgium
11.6 Russian_Smolensk

^^^ The distance is better, but you get too much Russian to make sense.

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Now I tried Moldavian, because it sounds similar to Mordavian :)

Target: Laly
Distance: 6.6131% / 6.61310747 | ADC: 0.25x
51.6 Portuguese
42.2 Belgium
6.2 Moldavian

Hmmmmm, that fits reasonably well. What I think this may indicate is that what you inherited from your mom is a little east-shifted overall from the Belgian reference pop, not so much that you have an actual recent Eastern European ancestor. But who knows? :)

[Luke35]

Here is your result using South Dutch to represent your maternal ancestry:

Eurogenes K15 Vahaduo, original spreadsheet:

Target: Laly
Distance: 6.2777% / 6.27768002
52.8 South_Dutch
47.2 Portuguese

-------------------------

I can chop the distance down a bit if I use this Spanish reference to represent your paternal ancestry. The K15 algorithm assigned it (Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon) to you when I did a calculation using the whole spreadsheet.

Target: Laly
Distance: 4.9619% / 4.96193881
52.2 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
47.8 South_Dutch

[Tacitus]

What you wrote seems very interesting, but I'm afraid I don't understand well. What do you mean with that "sizeable distance" and that "even split in ancestry"?

Usually in these calculators a distance greater than 5 is "far", as the closer you get to zero, the closer you are to those reference populations listed, thus, the more accurate the result. By "even split" I mean Vahaduo measures you as exactly 50% South_Dutch, 50% Portuguese.

Basically what I'm saying is that even though the calculated distance to the result is "far" by Vahaduo standards, the calculator still measures your results as exactly 50% South_Dutch (the closest population to Belgium in the calculator) and 50% Portuguese, which as far as I can tell, is essentially your actual ancestry (South_Dutch being the closest population the calculator has to Belgian).

Sorry if it all sounds confusing, I know all this stuff can be overwhelming at first.

[Slavic Italian]

I don't know anything about this company, my recommendation is always to stick to the mainstream commercial stuff.

Wish you luck with this, I look forward to helping interpret your results.

Average.

[dududud]

lol it's not her husband, it's Eric Zemmour, an Algerian Jew from France, who is a leading intellectual figure on TV shows and in book sales, he is hardcore Right-wing conservative and very anti-Islam.

Salut au passage Laly, j'espère que toi, ton mari et ton bébé allez bien. En fait tes résultats montrent qui si on prend une droite entre la Belgique et le Portugal, et qu'on fait moitié-moitié et bien ça fait de toi une Française (même plus de souche que beaucoup d'autres Français hehe).

Tu dis des conneries. Elle est pas "plus de souche"

Mon père est plus de souche qu'elle : il est français sur les 700 dernières années. Contrairement aux Juifs de Zemmour et autres métèques.

Bisous, sinon.

[dududud]

Peu importe. Les résultats semblent correspondre à ta généalogie : portugaise + tes autres origines

Rien de bien étrange. Quant à tes traits, comme je l'ai dit : cela pourrait autant venir du père que de la mère ; d'une combinaison de plusieurs ancêtres.

[Laly]

This is what Peterski told me:


In terms of single distances / genetic similarity to one population, you are closest to France.

All of your top most similar regions are French, followed by North Italians & South Germans:

(this closeness to France is due to being a mix of South European + North European parents)

[1] "1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCE%"
FR_Ile-de-France
0.8002493
FR_Paris
0.8208221
FR_Midi-Pyrenees
0.8573092
FR_Centre-Val-de-Loire:south
0.8893363
FR_Hautes-Alpes
0.8933846
FR_Grand-Est
0.8996599
FR_Picardy
0.9148448
FR_Provence-Marseille
0.9357644
FR_Auvergne
0.9599844
FR_Pays-de-la-Loire
0.9853761
FR_Centre-Val-de-Loire:north
0.9936710
FR_Rhone-Alpes
1.0053363
FR_Nord
1.0130938
ITA_Aosta
1.0150123
DE_Bavaria
1.0251171
CH_Switzerland:German
1.0480391
(...)

^^^ But obviously your actual % breakdown of "paper genealogy" is more like what you scored, right?

Probably too much British in your results (?), but it could represent ancient Armorican Celts and Belgae.

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I recently updated Netherlands, these are all the Dutch regions that 24Genetics currently reports:

Europe NL Flevoland
Europe NL Drenthe
Europe NL Friesland
Europe NL Limburg
Europe NL Overijssel
Europe NL Gelderland
Europe NL Groningen
Europe NL Noord Brabant
Europe NL Noord Holland
Europe NL Zuid Holland
Europe NL Utrecht
Europe NL Zeeland

^^^
All these regions were present in the algorithm at the time you took the test, but you didn't score any of them.

As for Belgium - I admit that Belgian references are still not perfect, they will need some updates in the future.

Maybe with updates in the future your United Kingdom score will decline, & some Belgium will show up instead.

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I think minor Sephardic Maghreb & Libya can be real. Very few Europeans score Libya, not even such small amounts.

====

As for Russian - I've heard that a lot of Russian aristocracy escaped to France during the Bolshevik Revolution.

Are you sure you don't have any Russian aristocracy in your bloodline?

[Laly]

No, I mean going by those results of yours you are very similar to a lot of ethnic French people.

That's just an oracle, it models/predicts your possible ethnic makeup with the references it has in store. I'm not sure what ADC stands for but it kinda reduces the number of populations used. I'm talking about Vahaduo, that's what the tool is called.

Are you quarter Portuguese with the rest being Belgian and French?

Thank you for your explanations! My father is completely Portuguese and my mother is of Belgian and Luxembourgish nationality, but she also has Dutch, German, English ancestors. Both my parents have small slanted eyes.

I have been told I look like this ancestor of Dutch descent:

https://i.imgur.com/zTQi3zz.png

[Tannhauser]

This is what Peterski told me:

As for Russian - I've heard that a lot of Russian aristocracy escaped to France during the Bolshevik Revolution.

Are you sure you don't have any Russian aristocracy in your bloodline?


Perhaps you are related to Zinaida Yusupova


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/22/Zinaida_Yusupova_by_Flameng_%281894%2C_Hermitage%2 9.jpg



Princess Zinaida Nikolayevna Yusupova was an Imperial Russian noblewoman, the only heiress of Russia's largest private fortune of her time. Famed for her beauty and the lavishness of her hospitality, she was a leading figure in pre-Revolutionary Russian society. Wikipedia
Born: September 2, 1861, Saint Petersburg, Russia
Died: November 24, 1939, Paris, France

[Leto]

Thank you for your explanations! My father is completely Portuguese and my mother is of Belgian and Luxembourgish nationality, but she also has Dutch, German, English ancestors. Both my parents have small slanted eyes.

I have been told I look like this ancestor of Dutch descent:

[img]https://i.imgur.com/zTQi3zz.png
Interesting. So basically half Iberian half Celto-Germanic if I were to put it in a succinct way. Totally Western European.

[RogueState]

Hello! Thank you for your kind message. I'm very moved you're asking about my husband and my baby. They're doing well and my daughter is wonderful! I wish you're fine too. Do you think I look French?

I would say you look more Iberian than French or Belgian, at first sight

[Laly]

Usually in these calculators a distance greater than 5 is "far", as the closer you get to zero, the closer you are to those reference populations listed, thus, the more accurate the result. By "even split" I mean Vahaduo measures you as exactly 50% South_Dutch, 50% Portuguese.

Basically what I'm saying is that even though the calculated distance to the result is "far" by Vahaduo standards, the calculator still measures your results as exactly 50% South_Dutch (the closest population to Belgium in the calculator) and 50% Portuguese, which as far as I can tell, is essentially your actual ancestry (South_Dutch being the closest population the calculator has to Belgian).

Sorry if it all sounds confusing, I know all this stuff can be overwhelming at first.

Thank you very much for these explanations adapted to the neophyte I am!

[Laly]

I would say you look more Iberian than French or Belgian, at first sight

Iberian would be your first guess, if you didn't know anything about me?

[Laly]

I would say you look more Iberian than French or Belgian, at first sight

Iberian would be your first guess, if you didn't know anything about me?

[Samnium]

Thank you for your explanations! My father is completely Portuguese and my mother is of Belgian and Luxembourgish nationality, but she also has Dutch, German, English ancestors. Both my parents have small slanted eyes.


Is that you on the signature picture ?

You look like Sophie Marceau in side pictures :thumb001:

[Laly]

Probably too much British in your results (?), but it could represent ancient Armorican Celts and Belgae.

The English ancestor I’ve heard about a lot entered into my genealogy within the context of the battle of Waterloo, in 1815.

In fact, after Wellington and von Blücher won, a big party was organised in Waterloo, where the foreign officers brought their families. This English ancestor was the daughter of a British officer. And she danced at the party with her future husband, who had fought in von Blücher’s army.

[Laly]

Perhaps you are related to Zinaida Yusupova


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/22/Zinaida_Yusupova_by_Flameng_%281894%2C_Hermitage%2 9.jpg

I wish I was! But no, I'm not. :) I have visisted the Yusupov palace (from a family of Tatar origin) in Saint Petersburg, it's an incredible place. I have been on Rasputin's crime scene! :D

[Laly]

As for Russian - I've heard that a lot of Russian aristocracy escaped to France during the Bolshevik Revolution.

Are you sure you don't have any Russian aristocracy in your bloodline?

That would have been super cool! But no. :) Many of these White Russians (Russian nobles) came to Belgium and I know many of them personally. I know, for example, Pushkin's last direct descendant, I know Marina Tolstoy, direct descendant of Leo Tolstoy, the count Apraxine, etc.

[Roy]

It gives Germans 100% Slavic.

I did spill my drink, lol.

[Tannhauser]

I wish I was! But no, I'm not. :) I have visisted the Yusupov palace (from a family of Tatar origin) in Saint Petersburg, it's an incredible place. I have been on Rasputin's crime scene! :D

jaja old dear Rasputin, if I ever founded a religious order one of the mottos ld surely be one of his quotes:

“If you don't sin, you don't repent, if you don't repent, you can't be saved.”

[Leto]

That would have been super cool! But no. :) Many of these White Russians (Russian nobles) came to Belgium and I know many of them personally. I know, for example, Pushkin's last direct descendant, I know Marina Tolstoy, direct descendant of Leo Tolstoy, the count Apraxine, etc.
On this forum there was a guy from France who was a White Russian descendant. His father was Russian and his mother was half French half Russian. Too bad he is gone, he was pretty based in terms of views too. I wonder what he would score on a genetic test.

[calxpal]

What's the coolest or most useful thing you've learned from DNA testing so far? :wink

[Laly]

What's the coolest or most useful thing you've learned from DNA testing so far? :wink

Maybe that there's basically no ssa showing up. :p

[Laly]

Is that you on the signature picture ?

You look like Sophie Marceau in side pictures :thumb001:

Thank you! Yes, she usually has short hair like that. And yes, it's me. :)

[Laly]

I would like to know my haplogroups. When I use the links recommended nicely by Stearsolina (https://ytree.morleydna.com/extractFromAutosomal and
https://cladefinder.yseq.net/), I get lines with numbers and letters. And I dont know how to find my haplogroups. What should I do?

[Tchek]

edit: ooops looks like a glitch

[Tchek]

edit: error in the database and my post spammed three times lol

[Tchek]

I would like to know my haplogroups. When I use the links recommended nicely by Stearsolina (https://ytree.morleydna.com/extractFromAutosomal and
https://cladefinder.yseq.net/), I get lines with numbers and letters. And I dont know how to find my haplogroups. What should I do?

What kind of lines? As a woman you can only get your MtDNA (female line) but not your Y-DNA

[Laly]

What kind of lines? As a woman you can only get your MtDNA (female line) but not your Y-DNA

Thank you for answering! What you say is interesting. Petereski told me he will search the haplogroup information for me.

Would you say the dna results concerning my North-Western ancestry are similar to yours?

[Tchek]

Thank you for answering! What you say is interesting. Petereski told me he will search the haplogroup information for me.

Would you say the dna results concerning my North-Western ancestry are similar to yours?

Yes, very similiar if I judge the K13 for example, and I don't have any recent southern european ancestry that I know of.
It makes me wonder, it's weird that you have so many different origins but yet end up with results typical for Belgium.

[Laly]

I am very grateful towards Peterski! :hug2: His company normally doesn't provide information on haplougroups, but he looked for mine. It is H5a!
But I don't know very well what it means.

[Luke35]

I am very grateful towards Peterski! :hug2: His company normally doesn't provide information on haplougroups, but he looked for mine. It is H5a!
But I don't know very well what it means.

I suck with any knowledge on Haplos, but somebody here surely can tell you some interesting things about H5a

[Ezio Auditore]

Missed this Laly. Wow nothing exotic... you actually are quite northern shifted for Portuguese. If I recall you aren't 100% Portuguese, right? This is more proof that genotype doesn't equal phenotype. We've already had a lot of proof on this site alone that this is the truth... Phenotype is pseudoscience!

[Jana]

Missed this Laly. Wow nothing exotic... you actually are quite northern shifted for Portuguese. If I recall you aren't 100% Portuguese, right? This is more proof that genotype doesn't equal phenotype. We've already had a lot of proof on this site alone that this is the truth... Phenotype is pseudoscience!

Laly is just half Portuguese. Other half is NW Euro.

[Roy]

I suck with any knowledge on Haplos, but somebody here surely can tell you some interesting things about H5a

People seem obsessed with Y-DNA but it is MTDNA that is vital to us. It cannot tell that much that much about ancient migrations as in pinpointing them but MTDNA is responsible for a lot of processes in our organisms. And various MTDNA haplogroups have been linked to different risks of various diseases as well as different average progression times of HIV to AIDS (if one is not taking medications).