Anatolian Greek Result??

[lockdownboredom]

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The name associated with the kit is Greek.

Largest Seg: 11.9
Total cM: 27.3
Gen: 4.5
Overlap: 277608

Eurogenes K13

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 39.63
2 East_Med 33.64
3 West_Med 15.4
4 Red_Sea 6.84
5 Baltic 2.46
6 South_Asian 1.21
7 East_Asian 0.82

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Armenian 4.52
2 Georgian_Jewish 6.08
3 Assyrian 9.1
4 Kurdish 11.48
5 Turkish 12.19
6 Kurdish_Jewish 12.44
7 Azeri 12.8
8 Iranian_Jewish 13.6
9 Iranian 13.97
10 Georgian 16.43
11 Lebanese_Muslim 16.45
12 Abhkasian 17.35
13 Syrian 18.12
14 Cyprian 18.97
15 Kumyk 19.88
16 Adygei 20.65
17 Lebanese_Christian 20.81
18 Lebanese_Druze 21.47
19 Balkar 21.88
20 Ossetian 22.09

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 54.7% Abhkasian + 45.3% Lebanese_Christian @ 3.27
2 56.3% Abhkasian + 43.7% Samaritan @ 3.37
3 56.2% Georgian + 43.8% Lebanese_Christian @ 3.9
4 57.9% Georgian + 42.1% Samaritan @ 4.37
5 80.2% Armenian + 19.8% Georgian_Jewish @ 4.4
6 94.4% Armenian + 5.6% Abhkasian @ 4.41
7 94.1% Armenian + 5.9% Georgian @ 4.41
8 97% Armenian + 3% Kabardin @ 4.47
9 96.9% Armenian + 3.1% Balkar @ 4.47
10 97.1% Armenian + 2.9% North_Ossetian @ 4.47
11 97% Armenian + 3% Adygei @ 4.48
12 99.1% Armenian + 0.9% Sardinian @ 4.5
13 97.9% Armenian + 2.1% Ossetian @ 4.5
14 99% Armenian + 1% Moroccan @ 4.5
15 98.8% Armenian + 1.2% Bedouin @ 4.51
16 99.2% Armenian + 0.8% Saudi @ 4.51
17 99.6% Armenian + 0.4% Erzya @ 4.52
18 99.4% Armenian + 0.6% Mozabite_Berber @ 4.52
19 99.6% Armenian + 0.4% Chuvash @ 4.52
20 99.8% Armenian + 0.2% She @ 4.52

[lockdownboredom]

My sisters for comparison sake.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 24.39
2 West_Med 20.69
3 North_Atlantic 19.33
4 Baltic 19.3
5 West_Asian 12.68
6 Red_Sea 2.66
7 Amerindian 0.55
8 East_Asian 0.4

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek_Thessaly 3.35
2 Bulgarian 6.57
3 Romanian 9.11
4 Central_Greek 9.81
5 Italian_Abruzzo 10.55
6 East_Sicilian 11.28
7 Tuscan 11.68
8 West_Sicilian 11.73
9 Ashkenazi 13.26
10 Serbian 13.44
11 South_Italian 14.14
12 North_Italian 14.85
13 Moldavian 18.95
14 Algerian_Jewish 19.71
15 Italian_Jewish 19.82
16 Sephardic_Jewish 20.07
17 Hungarian 21.7
18 Croatian 21.93
19 Portuguese 22.51
20 Spanish_Extremadura 22.97

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 69.3% Greek_Thessaly + 30.7% Bulgarian @ 1.83
2 60.4% Bulgarian + 39.6% Central_Greek @ 1.85
3 69% Bulgarian + 31% South_Italian @ 1.85
4 64% Bulgarian + 36% East_Sicilian @ 2.13
5 92.7% Greek_Thessaly + 7.3% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.18
6 76% Bulgarian + 24% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.22
7 92.8% Greek_Thessaly + 7.2% Southwest_Russian @ 2.23
8 92.2% Greek_Thessaly + 7.8% Ukrainian @ 2.24
9 88.4% Greek_Thessaly + 11.6% Moldavian @ 2.26
10 94.2% Greek_Thessaly + 5.8% Lithuanian @ 2.28
11 93.4% Greek_Thessaly + 6.6% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.29
12 89.9% Greek_Thessaly + 10.1% Croatian @ 2.29
13 75.5% Central_Greek + 24.5% Ukrainian @ 2.29
14 78.4% Greek_Thessaly + 21.6% Romanian @ 2.3
15 93.8% Greek_Thessaly + 6.2% Erzya @ 2.3
16 93.5% Greek_Thessaly + 6.5% Estonian_Polish @ 2.31
17 92.1% Greek_Thessaly + 7.9% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.32
18 92.3% Greek_Thessaly + 7.7% South_Polish @ 2.32
19 93.1% Greek_Thessaly + 6.9% Polish @ 2.33
20 93.7% Greek_Thessaly + 6.3% Belorussian @ 2.33

[wvwvw]

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The name associated with the kit is Greek.

What name is associated with the kit.

Associating a kit with a name doesn't necessarily make it Greek. If I put Jonsson in my kit will it make me English?

You must know where this person lives and his background. If he lives in Greece or lives perhaps in Abkashia or whether his family is fully Greek or partial Greek as many Greeks living in Abkasia or Armenia are.

[lockdownboredom]

What name is associated with the kit.

Associating a kit with a name doesn't necessarily make it Greek. If I put Jonsson in my kit will it make me English?

You must know where this person lives and his background. If he lives in Greece or lives perhaps in Abkashia or whether his family is fully Greek or partial Greek as many Greeks living in Abkasia or Armenia are.

Akritidis

That's a given. But the result seems consistent with other supposed Anatolian Greeks. Just interesting to see a mainland Greek match with an Anatolian.

[Ion Basescul]

That's a given. But the result seems consistent with other supposed Anatolian Greeks. Just interesting to see a mainland Greek match with an Anatolian.

You need to contact them, because maternally they could have a different origin.

[Hapanuwa]

Damn, that kit has twice as much West Asian and Red Sea than me.

Isn't the kit from Black Sea Region/Pontus, considering the name Akritidis. Thought that the -idis always referred to Pontian ancestry

[itilvolga]

Akritidis

That's a given. But the result seems consistent with other supposed Anatolian Greeks. Just interesting to see a mainland Greek match with an Anatolian.

The suffix -idis gives me Pontian vibes

[catgeorge]

Thats the results you get from Pontians not Anatolians from Smyrna etc.

[Lemgrant]

Akritidis,0,2.46,15.4,39.63,33.64,6.84,1.21,0.82,0 ,0,0,0,0

http://vahaduo.genetics.ovh/k13-vahaduo.htm

Distance to: Akritidis

4.54768073 Greek_Caucasus
5.17380904 Turk_East_Black_Sea
5.63482919 Greek_Trabzon
5.84624666 Armenian_East
6.18843276 Armenian_West
6.87176833 Georgian_Jewish
7.37972222 Laz
8.78005125 Turk_Meskhetian
9.91062561 Mountain_Jew_Chechnya
10.17360801 Assyrian_North
10.37313357 Turk_East
10.63924809 Assyrian_South
10.71044817 Assyrian_West
10.98064206 Turk_South_East
11.21472247 Turkmen_Iraq
11.21597076 Zaza
11.34950219 Kurd_Kurmanji_Turkey
12.51267757 Kurd_Sorani
12.71999214 Kurd_Iran
12.84412317 Kurdish
13.14119477 Azerbaijani_Iran
13.44132806 Mandean
13.68999270 Lor_Iran
13.79765197 Azerbaijani_Turkey
13.82090084 Talysh
13.82308576 Turkish_mixed
14.27809511 Kurdish_Jewish
14.34055438 Azeri
14.64466797 Greek_Cappadocian
14.80965226 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
15.16988134 Iraqi_Jew
15.39019493 Iraqi_Baghdad
15.56653783 Iranian
15.84684827 Turk_Central_East
17.80667291 Nusayri
18.14272030 Turk_Anatolia
18.55621459 Turk_South
18.85917549 Turk_Central_West
18.93227403 Lebanese_Muslim
18.98130659 Georgian
19.03126901 Georgian_imereti
19.97617331 Abhkasian
20.57599086 Iran_Centraleast
20.63910124 Syrian
21.97683098 Cyprian
21.97683098 Greek_Cypriot
22.62061228 Kumyk
22.84816842 Turk_Cypriot
22.86669631 Turk_North_West
23.66953738 Adygei

[Jana]

Pontic Greeks have such genetic profile.

[Leto]

Yes, looks Pontic to me. Can you post their Dodecad K12b components?

[wvwvw]

The suffix -idis gives me Pontian vibes

No kidding

[RatCat]

I will post some Trabzon Turks for comparison, if it's a pontic greek they must be close

Person 1:
Population
North_Atlantic -
Baltic -
West_Med 14.85 Pct
West_Asian 43.14 Pct
East_Med 36.24 Pct
Red_Sea 4.90 Pct
South_Asian -
East_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.86 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

Person 2:
Population
North_Atlantic 1.56 Pct
Baltic -
West_Med 17.80 Pct
West_Asian 44.36 Pct
East_Med 31.35 Pct
Red_Sea 4.19 Pct
South_Asian 0.09 Pct
East_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.36 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.30 Pct

Person 3:
Population
North_Atlantic 3.05 Pct
Baltic 0.85 Pct
West_Med 14.24 Pct
West_Asian 41.25 Pct
East_Med 35.94 Pct
Red_Sea 3.12 Pct
South_Asian 1.35 Pct
East_Asian 0.20 Pct
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

Person 4:
Population
North_Atlantic 2.58 Pct
Baltic -
West_Med 13.67 Pct
West_Asian 43.96 Pct
East_Med 35.10 Pct
Red_Sea 4.07 Pct
South_Asian 0.56 Pct
East_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.06 Pc

[lockdownboredom]

Damn, that kit has twice as much West Asian and Red Sea than me.

Isn't the kit from Black Sea Region/Pontus, considering the name Akritidis. Thought that the -idis always referred to Pontian ancestry

Sharing is caring bruddah.


Yes, looks Pontic to me. Can you post their Dodecad K12b components?

Your wish is my command. Anything else, let me know.

Dodecad K12B:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 54.31
2 Gedrosia 15.51
3 Southwest_Asian 14.55
4 Atlantic_Med 11.3
5 North_European 3.29
6 Siberian 0.53
7 East_Asian 0.42
8 South_Asian 0.09

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Armenian (Dodecad) 2.24
2 Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) 3.66
3 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 5.65
4 Assyrian (Dodecad) 5.9
5 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 6
6 Armenians (Behar) 6.84
7 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 10.51
8 Turks (Behar) 10.52
9 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 10.73
10 Turkish (Dodecad) 11
11 Druze (HGDP) 11.64
12 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 11.98
13 Cypriots (Behar) 13.66
14 Lebanese (Behar) 15.85
15 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 16.8
16 Kurd (Dodecad) 18.2
17 Iranian (Dodecad) 18.84
18 Syrians (Behar) 19.63
19 Samaritians (Behar) 21.04
20 Jordanians (Behar) 21.52

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 79.3% Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) + 20.7% Cypriots (Behar) @ 0.91
2 92.1% Armenian (Dodecad) + 7.9% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) @ 1.03
3 87.3% Armenian (Dodecad) + 12.7% Cypriots (Behar) @ 1.04
4 92.7% Armenian (Dodecad) + 7.3% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) @ 1.04
5 92.5% Armenian (Dodecad) + 7.5% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) @ 1.09
6 93.3% Armenian (Dodecad) + 6.7% Morocco_Jews (Behar) @ 1.13
7 93.3% Armenian (Dodecad) + 6.7% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 1.17
8 93.5% Armenian (Dodecad) + 6.5% Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 1.19
9 95% Armenian (Dodecad) + 5% C_Italian (Dodecad) @ 1.35
10 94.3% Armenian (Dodecad) + 5.7% Greek (Dodecad) @ 1.36
11 95.5% Armenian (Dodecad) + 4.5% Tuscan (HGDP) @ 1.4
12 95.7% Armenian (Dodecad) + 4.3% TSI30 (Metspalu) @ 1.4
13 97% Armenian (Dodecad) + 3% Murcia (1000Genomes) @ 1.4
14 90.1% Armenian (Dodecad) + 9.9% Lebanese (Behar) @ 1.42
15 97% Armenian (Dodecad) + 3% Galicia (1000Genomes) @ 1.42
16 95.5% Armenian (Dodecad) + 4.5% O_Italian (Dodecad) @ 1.43
17 96.4% Armenian (Dodecad) + 3.6% North_Italian (HGDP) @ 1.43
18 97.1% Armenian (Dodecad) + 2.9% Portuguese (Dodecad) @ 1.44
19 97.2% Armenian (Dodecad) + 2.8% Castilla_Y_Leon (1000Genomes) @ 1.44
20 97% Armenian (Dodecad) + 3% Canarias (1000Genomes) @ 1.44

[Leto]

Dodecad K12B:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 54.31
2 Gedrosia 15.51
3 Southwest_Asian 14.55
4 Atlantic_Med 11.3
5 North_European 3.29
6 Siberian 0.53
7 East_Asian 0.42
8 South_Asian 0.09

Distance to: Pontic
2.52766691 Greek_Pontus
3.98712929 Turk_East_Black_Sea
5.09313263 Hemshin
5.47418487 Armenian_West
5.72062060 Armenian_East
6.26261128 Laz
6.42107468 Georgia_Jews
8.85647786 Turk_Ahiska
8.86043453 Assyrian_West
9.04439606 Assyrian_North

Target: Pontic
Distance: 1.1297% / 1.12966365 | ADC: 0.25x
75.4 Greek_Pontus
23.4 Georgia_Jews
1.2 Iraqi_Jew

Target: Pontic
Distance: 1.0186% / 1.01860788
70.2 Greek_Pontus
18.0 Georgian_Adjara
5.8 Iraqi_Jew
4.0 Yemen_Jews
1.8 Georgia_Jews
0.2 Evenk

[lockdownboredom]

Nice. I wonder which "Greek" group is the most West Asian genetically.

[Rgvgjhvv]

Nice. I wonder which "Greek" group is the most West Asian genetically.

Pontic Greeks. Don't put them in "'s. They suffered severe loss of life fighting for their Greek culture, religion and identity.

[Hapanuwa]

Sharing is caring bruddah.


# Population Percent
1 East_Med 27.75
2 West_Asian 21.88
3 West_Med 13.83
4 North_Atlantic 9.82
5 Baltic 9.07
6 East_Asian 5.45
7 Siberian 5.17
8 Red_Sea 3.72
9 South_Asian 1.8
10 Oceanian 1.45
11 Northeast_African 0.06

[lockdownboredom]

Pontic Greeks. Don't put them in "'s. They suffered severe loss of life fighting for their Greek culture, religion and identity.

So much for Pontians being Hellenized Armenians. Seems they do carry Greek genetics.