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Maguzanci
10-02-2020, 08:01 PM
She seem to be Chuvash. She seem to be close to almost 30% Mongoloid in some calculators and some South/Central Asian affinity. What I find intriguing is it looks like her Neolithic Farmer admix is very low compared to most Europeans (around 12% based on Punt K12 Modern and MDLP K11 World).

Eurogenes K13 Oracle results: Very interesting. She has some South-Central Asian-affinity?

K13 Oracle ref data revised 21 Nov 2013

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 40.93
2 Siberian 21.2
3 North_Atlantic 14.88
4 West_Asian 11.38
5 South_Asian 4.19
6 East_Asian 3.14
7 Amerindian 2.75
8 Northeast_African 1.28
9 Red_Sea 0.25

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Chuvash 4.38
2 Mari 7.69
3 Tatar 10.97
4 Erzya 19.35
5 Kargopol_Russian 20.68
6 East_Finnish 22.83
7 Southwest_Russian 25.07
8 Finnish 25.38
9 Ukrainian_Belgorod 25.49
10 Ukrainian_Lviv 26.61
11 Ukrainian 26.93
12 Estonian_Polish 27.06
13 Russian_Smolensk 27.12
14 Belorussian 27.68
15 Estonian 27.7
16 South_Polish 28.14
17 Polish 28.43
18 Moldavian 28.57
19 Lithuanian 28.71
20 Southwest_Finnish 28.87

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 94.5% Chuvash + 5.5% Burusho @ 3.26
2 92.8% Chuvash + 7.2% Aghan_Hazara @ 3.32
3 93.1% Chuvash + 6.9% Hazara @ 3.38
4 94.9% Chuvash + 5.1% Kalash @ 3.39
5 93.4% Chuvash + 6.6% Tadjik @ 3.42
6 95.7% Chuvash + 4.3% Brahui @ 3.43
7 95.6% Chuvash + 4.4% Balochi @ 3.44
8 92.3% Chuvash + 7.7% Uzbeki @ 3.44
9 91.7% Chuvash + 8.3% Afghan_Turkmen @ 3.45
10 95.7% Chuvash + 4.3% Sindhi @ 3.46
11 93.8% Chuvash + 6.2% Afghan_Tadjik @ 3.46
12 94.5% Chuvash + 5.5% Afghan_Pashtun @ 3.48
13 95.2% Chuvash + 4.8% Pathan @ 3.49
14 95.3% Chuvash + 4.7% Punjabi_Jat @ 3.5
15 95.9% Chuvash + 4.1% Makrani @ 3.57
16 96.2% Chuvash + 3.8% Gujarati @ 3.59
17 93.6% Chuvash + 6.4% Uygur @ 3.59
18 96.3% Chuvash + 3.7% Kshatriya @ 3.64
19 93.2% Chuvash + 6.8% Shors @ 3.65
20 96.1% Chuvash + 3.9% Brahmin_UP @ 3.66


PuntDNAL K10: 3% ASI? Some Central Asian influence? Because I don't think the South Asian is genuine. Also interesting how low her Neolithic Farmer admix is, at only 5%.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 WHG 36.55
2 CHG 23.86
3 Siberian 18.8
4 Beringian 6.4
5 ENF 5.54
6 Amerindian 3.18
7 ASI 3.13
8 E_Asian 2.55

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Chuvash 4.44
2 Mordovian 18.91
3 Russian 19.99
4 Finnish 22.09
5 Ukrainian 25.76
6 Belarusian 26.96
7 Nogai 27.75
8 Estonian 27.77
9 Hungarian 28.31
10 Scottish_West 28.68
11 Norwegian 28.76
12 Czech 28.76
13 English_South 28.9
14 Irish 28.94
15 Lithuanian 29
16 German_North 29.04
17 Uzbek 29.17
18 Croatian 29.78
19 Icelandic 29.89
20 Utahn_white 30

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 95.8% Chuvash + 4.2% Eskimo @ 3.09
2 97.2% Chuvash + 2.8% Karitiana @ 3.31
3 97.3% Chuvash + 2.7% Bolivian @ 3.35
4 97.4% Chuvash + 2.6% Pima @ 3.36
5 97.2% Chuvash + 2.8% Mayan @ 3.38
6 97.1% Chuvash + 2.9% Bolivian @ 3.44
7 97.1% Chuvash + 2.9% Pulliyar @ 3.57
8 96.7% Chuvash + 3.3% Piramalai_Kallars @ 3.63
9 96.2% Chuvash + 3.8% Punjabi @ 3.66
10 96.6% Chuvash + 3.4% Tamil_Nadu @ 3.67
11 96.6% Chuvash + 3.4% Velama @ 3.69
12 97.5% Chuvash + 2.5% Chukchi @ 3.73
13 95.8% Chuvash + 4.2% UP_Brahmin @ 3.75
14 97.9% Chuvash + 2.1% Koryak @ 3.87
15 94.4% Chuvash + 5.6% Selkup @ 3.89
16 95.5% Chuvash + 4.5% Burusho @ 3.9
17 96.2% Chuvash + 3.8% Pathan @ 4.01
18 95.6% Chuvash + 4.4% Altaian @ 4.01
19 94.9% Chuvash + 5.1% Hazara @ 4.01
20 96.4% Chuvash + 3.6% Sindhi @ 4.02

PuntDNAL K12 Modern: Pretty low Neolithic farmer compared to most European results that I saw. The South Asian signal seems lower than the previous calcs as well-probably absorbed by Caucasus_HG. Looks like she also has recent Siberian ancestry as well based on the mixed mode population sharing.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 European_HG 36.5
2 Siberian 22.78
3 Caucasus_HG 19.19
4 Anatolian_NF 12.78
5 East_Asian 3.43
6 Beringian 2.93
7 South_Asian 0.98
8 Near_East 0.84
9 Amerindian 0.51
10 Oceanian 0.06

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Chuvash 10.47
2 Mordovian 20.21
3 Russian 21.87
4 Finnish 24.92
5 Uzbek 27.49
6 Turkmen 27.76
7 Nogai 28.73
8 Belarusian 28.74
9 Hungarian 29.35
10 Czech 29.37
11 Croatian 29.54
12 Dutch_North 30.12
13 German_North 30.22
14 Icelandic 30.35
15 Scottish_West 30.48
16 Estonian 30.62
17 Dutch_South 30.7
18 Irish 31.11
19 Romanian 31.23
20 English_South 31.39

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 75.3% Mordovian + 24.7% Yakut @ 4.12
2 72% Mordovian + 28% Dolgan @ 4.17
3 67.3% Mordovian + 32.7% Selkup @ 4.81
4 75% Chuvash + 25% Turkmen @ 5.16
5 73.9% Russian + 26.1% Yakut @ 5.28
6 80.8% Mordovian + 19.2% Nganasan @ 5.35
7 70.6% Russian + 29.4% Dolgan @ 5.63
8 79.8% Chuvash + 20.2% Hazara @ 6.09
9 82.5% Chuvash + 17.5% Altaian @ 6.28
10 87.8% Chuvash + 12.2% Yakut @ 6.3
11 76.4% Chuvash + 23.6% Uzbek @ 6.42
12 86% Chuvash + 14% Dolgan @ 6.46
13 91.1% Chuvash + 8.9% Nganasan @ 6.75
14 68.2% Belarusian + 31.8% Yakut @ 6.78
15 85.9% Chuvash + 14.1% Tuvinian @ 6.87
16 71.8% Mordovian + 28.2% Tuvinian @ 6.88
17 64.4% Belarusian + 35.6% Dolgan @ 6.9
18 79.8% Russian + 20.2% Nganasan @ 7.02
19 67.5% Mordovian + 32.5% Altaian @ 7.03
20 59% Belarusian + 41% Selkup @ 7.07

MDLP K11: she also gets pretty low Neolithic just like Punt K12 Modern.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 WHG 31.73
2 EHG 25.56
3 Siberian 23.77
4 Neolithic 12.45
5 SEA 3.03
6 Amerindian 2.42
7 African 0.77
8 Iran-Mesolithic 0.21
9 Basal 0.06

MDLP K16:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 NorthEastEuropean 27.51
2 Siberian 21.71
3 Caucasian 20.26
4 Steppe 16.8
5 Neolithic 7.93
6 Arctic 2.32
7 Amerindian 1.52
8 SouthEastAsian 1.25
9 Subsaharian 0.56
10 Indian 0.14

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Chuvash (Chuvashia) 5.45
2 Mari (Mari_El) 6.84
3 Udmurd (Udmurtia) 8.49
4 Komi (Komi_Republic) 11.44
5 Bashkir (Ilbragimovo) 12.19
6 Saami (Finnmark) 12.26
7 Mishar-Tatar (Mordovia) 12.49
8 Tatars (Tatarstan) 13.11
9 Kryashen (Bashkortostan) 13.82
10 Bashkir (Kildigulovo) 14.37
11 Bashkir (Akyar) 14.43
12 Saami_WGA (Lapland) 14.55
13 Forest_Yukaghir (Kolyma) 14.69
14 Bashkir (Bashkortostan) 15.22
15 Bashkir (Ufa) 16.66
16 Russian (Pinega) 17.18
17 Lipka_Tatar (Belorus) 17.29
18 Russian (NorthRussia) 17.37
19 Bashkir (Muradymovo) 17.94
20 Vepsa (Russia) 18.53

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 95% Chuvash (Chuvashia) + 5% Dolgan (Taymyr) @ 4.33
2 94.8% Chuvash (Chuvashia) + 5.2% Sakha (Yakutia) @ 4.38
3 94.6% Chuvash (Chuvashia) + 5.4% Evenk (Evenk) @ 4.46
4 94% Chuvash (Chuvashia) + 6% Yakut (Yakutia) @ 4.5
5 94.5% Chuvash (Chuvashia) + 5.5% Even (Even) @ 4.52
6 95.2% Chuvash (Chuvashia) + 4.8% Tundra_Yukaghir (Andryushkino) @ 4.55
7 88.8% Chuvash (Chuvashia) + 11.2% Turkmen (Shumanay) @ 4.55
8 90.1% Chuvash (Chuvashia) + 9.9% Nogai (Dagestan) @ 4.56
9 93.1% Chuvash (Chuvashia) + 6.9% Forest-Nenets (Nadym) @ 4.56
10 95.3% Chuvash (Chuvashia) + 4.7% Nganasan (Taymyr) @ 4.57
11 93.9% Chuvash (Chuvashia) + 6.1% Tuvinian (Tuva) @ 4.62
12 94.6% Chuvash (Chuvashia) + 5.4% Buryat (Buryatia) @ 4.7
13 93.2% Chuvash (Chuvashia) + 6.8% Nenets (Nenets_okrug) @ 4.7
14 91.1% Chuvash (Chuvashia) + 8.9% Karakalpak (Karakalpakstan) @ 4.73
15 94.2% Chuvash (Chuvashia) + 5.8% Kalmyk (Kalmykia) @ 4.73
16 84.3% Chuvash (Chuvashia) + 15.7% Bashkir (Bashkortostan) @ 4.74
17 94.1% Chuvash (Chuvashia) + 5.9% Tundra_Nenets (Kanin) @ 4.74
18 92.5% Chuvash (Chuvashia) + 7.5% Turk (Aydin) @ 4.75
19 92.2% Chuvash (Chuvashia) + 7.8% Kazakh (Tien_Shan) @ 4.76
20 95.5% Chuvash (Chuvashia) + 4.5% Ulchi (Khabarovsk) @ 4.77


Dodecad World9:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Atlantic_Baltic 51.43
2 Siberian 21.8
3 Caucasus_Gedrosia 15.83
4 South_Asian 4.51
5 East_Asian 3.56
6 Amerindian 2.3
7 African 0.56

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Chuvashs (Behar) 6.51
2 Aleut 13.1
3 Mordovians (Yunusbayev) 22.59
4 Russian (HGDP) 23.78
5 Russian (Dodecad) 26.86
6 Russian_B (Behar) 28.09
7 Ukranians (Yunusbayev) 28.3
8 Hungarians (Behar) 28.48
9 Romanians (Behar) 29.26
10 FIN30 (1000Genomes) 29.86
11 Finnish (Dodecad) 30.21
12 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 30.33
13 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 30.65
14 Belorussian (Behar) 31.21
15 Polish (Dodecad) 31.5
16 Dutch (Dodecad) 31.75
17 German (Dodecad) 31.85
18 Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) 31.91
19 CEU30 (1000Genomes) 32.16
20 French (HGDP) 32.34

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 88.2% Chuvashs (Behar) + 11.8% Hazara (HGDP) @ 3.11
2 88.2% Chuvashs (Behar) + 11.8% Uygur (HGDP) @ 3.42
3 86.5% Chuvashs (Behar) + 13.5% Uzbeks (Behar) @ 3.46
4 89.4% Chuvashs (Behar) + 10.6% Altai @ 3.6
5 91.1% Chuvashs (Behar) + 8.9% Mongol @ 3.86
6 91.6% Chuvashs (Behar) + 8.4% Tuva (Rasmussen) @ 3.98
7 92.1% Chuvashs (Behar) + 7.9% Buryat @ 4
8 93.6% Chuvashs (Behar) + 6.4% Chenchus (Metspalu) @ 4.06
9 93.9% Chuvashs (Behar) + 6.1% BONDA (Chaubey) @ 4.08
10 93.9% Chuvashs (Behar) + 6.1% Juang (Chaubey) @ 4.08
11 93.2% Chuvashs (Behar) + 6.8% Khasi (Chaubey) @ 4.1
12 93.5% Chuvashs (Behar) + 6.5% Kol (Metspalu) @ 4.1
13 91.5% Chuvashs (Behar) + 8.5% Burusho (HGDP) @ 4.12
14 93.6% Chuvashs (Behar) + 6.4% Gond (Metspalu) @ 4.13
15 94.1% Chuvashs (Behar) + 5.9% Kharia (Chaubey) @ 4.13
16 93.6% Chuvashs (Behar) + 6.4% Velamas (Metspalu) @ 4.14
17 94.1% Chuvashs (Behar) + 5.9% Savara (Chaubey) @ 4.14
18 93.6% Chuvashs (Behar) + 6.4% Dusadh (Metspalu) @ 4.14
19 93.7% Chuvashs (Behar) + 6.3% Kurumba (Metspalu) @ 4.15
20 93.1% Chuvashs (Behar) + 6.9% Muslim (Metspalu) @ 4.15



The oracle runs in many calcs susggested that she is Chuvash. But her Neolithic Farmer is fairly low?
Dirdepo
10-02-2020, 08:04 PM
What you mean you are not sure? This is Chuvash result
Maguzanci
10-02-2020, 08:06 PM
What you mean you are not sure? This is Chuvash result

I am not sure because I feel her Neolithic farmer is lower than most Chuvash.
Dirdepo
10-02-2020, 08:08 PM
I am not sure because I feel her Mongoloid is a bit higher and neolithic farmer is lower than most Chuvash.

Is normal trust, I have close matches like that I just don't feel like digging up those results
Dirdepo
10-02-2020, 08:13 PM
Ok, another one

Chuvash

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 58.37
2 Siberian 16.95
3 West_Asian 11.55
4 East_Asian 3.5
5 West_Med 3.48
6 South_Asian 2
7 East_Med 1.75
8 Amerindian 1.61
9 Red_Sea 0.42
10 Northeast_African 0.36

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Chuvash 19.27
2 Mari 21.64
3 Erzya 22.65
4 Kargopol_Russian 26.61
5 Tatar 26.85
6 Southwest_Russian 29.95
7 Ukrainian_Belgorod 30.09
8 East_Finnish 30.49
9 Lithuanian 31.38
10 Estonian_Polish 31.48
11 Russian_Smolensk 31.8
12 Belorussian 32.4
13 Ukrainian 33.28
14 Ukrainian_Lviv 33.6
15 Estonian 33.74
16 Finnish 34.04
17 Polish 34.68
18 South_Polish 35.76
19 Moldavian 36.97
20 Croatian 37.45

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 75.8% Chuvash + 24.2% Erzya @ 18.84
2 54.3% Mari + 45.7% Erzya @ 18.94
3 95% Chuvash + 5% Lithuanian @ 19.22
4 98.3% Chuvash + 1.7% MA-1 @ 19.25
5 99.6% Chuvash + 0.4% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 19.27
6 100% Chuvash + 0% Abhkasian @ 19.27
7 100% Chuvash + 0% Adygei @ 19.27
8 100% Chuvash + 0% Afghan_Pashtun @ 19.27
9 100% Chuvash + 0% Afghan_Tadjik @ 19.27
10 100% Chuvash + 0% Afghan_Turkmen @ 19.27
11 100% Chuvash + 0% Aghan_Hazara @ 19.27
12 100% Chuvash + 0% Algerian @ 19.27
13 100% Chuvash + 0% Algerian_Jewish @ 19.27
14 100% Chuvash + 0% Altaian @ 19.27
15 100% Chuvash + 0% Armenian @ 19.27
16 100% Chuvash + 0% Ashkenazi @ 19.27
17 100% Chuvash + 0% Assyrian @ 19.27
18 100% Chuvash + 0% Austrian @ 19.27
19 100% Chuvash + 0% Austroasiatic_Ho @ 19.27
20 100% Chuvash + 0% Azeri @ 19.27
Maguzanci
10-02-2020, 08:22 PM
Is normal trust, I have close matches like that I just don't feel like digging up those results

Sorry I don't understand your English. Do you mean her Mongoloid and Neolithic Farmer is normal for Chuvash?

Here are some other Chuvashes to compare using Punt DNAL K12 Modern:

Chuvash_1

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 European_HG 41.88
2 Anatolian_NF 20.2
3 Caucasus_HG 18.05
4 Siberian 11.48
5 Beringian 3.63
6 Amerindian 1.51
7 South_Asian 1.22
8 East_Asian 1.17
9 Oceanian 0.86

Chuvash_2

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 European_HG 38.35
2 Anatolian_NF 18.82
3 Caucasus_HG 18.75
4 Siberian 14.29
5 Beringian 4.76
6 Amerindian 2.13
7 South_Asian 1.56
8 Near_East 0.67
9 Oceanian 0.37
10 East_Asian 0.31

Chuvash_3

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 European_HG 32
2 Caucasus_HG 23.49
3 Anatolian_NF 20.48
4 Siberian 13.67
5 Beringian 4.59
6 East_Asian 3.32
7 Amerindian 2.18
8 Oceanian 0.23
9 South_Asian 0.04
Maguzanci
10-02-2020, 08:23 PM
Ok, another one

Chuvash

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 58.37
2 Siberian 16.95
3 West_Asian 11.55
4 East_Asian 3.5
5 West_Med 3.48
6 South_Asian 2
7 East_Med 1.75
8 Amerindian 1.61
9 Red_Sea 0.42
10 Northeast_African 0.36

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Chuvash 19.27
2 Mari 21.64
3 Erzya 22.65
4 Kargopol_Russian 26.61
5 Tatar 26.85
6 Southwest_Russian 29.95
7 Ukrainian_Belgorod 30.09
8 East_Finnish 30.49
9 Lithuanian 31.38
10 Estonian_Polish 31.48
11 Russian_Smolensk 31.8
12 Belorussian 32.4
13 Ukrainian 33.28
14 Ukrainian_Lviv 33.6
15 Estonian 33.74
16 Finnish 34.04
17 Polish 34.68
18 South_Polish 35.76
19 Moldavian 36.97
20 Croatian 37.45

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 75.8% Chuvash + 24.2% Erzya @ 18.84
2 54.3% Mari + 45.7% Erzya @ 18.94
3 95% Chuvash + 5% Lithuanian @ 19.22
4 98.3% Chuvash + 1.7% MA-1 @ 19.25
5 99.6% Chuvash + 0.4% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 19.27
6 100% Chuvash + 0% Abhkasian @ 19.27
7 100% Chuvash + 0% Adygei @ 19.27
8 100% Chuvash + 0% Afghan_Pashtun @ 19.27
9 100% Chuvash + 0% Afghan_Tadjik @ 19.27
10 100% Chuvash + 0% Afghan_Turkmen @ 19.27
11 100% Chuvash + 0% Aghan_Hazara @ 19.27
12 100% Chuvash + 0% Algerian @ 19.27
13 100% Chuvash + 0% Algerian_Jewish @ 19.27
14 100% Chuvash + 0% Altaian @ 19.27
15 100% Chuvash + 0% Armenian @ 19.27
16 100% Chuvash + 0% Ashkenazi @ 19.27
17 100% Chuvash + 0% Assyrian @ 19.27
18 100% Chuvash + 0% Austrian @ 19.27
19 100% Chuvash + 0% Austroasiatic_Ho @ 19.27
20 100% Chuvash + 0% Azeri @ 19.27

Can you post PuntDNAL K12 Modern for the individual?

Maybe I am wrong, I found another Chuvash who has low Neolithic Farmer almost close to OP's level:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 European_HG 34.47
2 Siberian 19.67
3 Caucasus_HG 19.6
4 Anatolian_NF 12.93
5 East_Asian 4.33
6 Beringian 4.04
7 Amerindian 2.9
8 South_Asian 2.06
Dirdepo
10-02-2020, 08:26 PM
Sorry I don't understand your English. Do you mean her Mongoloid and Neolithic Farmer is normal for Chuvash?

Here are some other Chuvashes to compare using Punt DNAL K12 Modern:

Chuvash_1

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 European_HG 41.88
2 Anatolian_NF 20.2
3 Caucasus_HG 18.05
4 Siberian 11.48
5 Beringian 3.63
6 Amerindian 1.51
7 South_Asian 1.22
8 East_Asian 1.17
9 Oceanian 0.86

Chuvash_2

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 European_HG 38.35
2 Anatolian_NF 18.82
3 Caucasus_HG 18.75
4 Siberian 14.29
5 Beringian 4.76
6 Amerindian 2.13
7 South_Asian 1.56
8 Near_East 0.67
9 Oceanian 0.37
10 East_Asian 0.31

Chuvash_3

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 European_HG 32
2 Caucasus_HG 23.49
3 Anatolian_NF 20.48
4 Siberian 13.67
5 Beringian 4.59
6 East_Asian 3.32
7 Amerindian 2.18
8 Oceanian 0.23
9 South_Asian 0.04

Everything is normal

Neolithic Farmer is fake, this is for Jews to have more confidence if they are self haters. Do you understand my English now?

I'm the Nikola Tesla of GEDmatch, trust me cuzzo don't argue
Maguzanci
10-02-2020, 08:30 PM
Everything is normal

Neolithic Farmer is fake, this is for Jews to have more confidence if they are self haters. Do you understand my English now?

I'm the Nikola Tesla of GEDmatch, trust me cuzzo don't argue

Ok. That's strange.
Dirdepo
10-02-2020, 08:30 PM
Ok. That's strange.

What strange? These calculators are using different base components in the reference panel, they won't be exactly same twice
Ülev
10-02-2020, 08:32 PM
travv!!!

North_Atlantic 14.88 = Paleo Atlantid
Maguzanci
10-02-2020, 08:33 PM
What strange? These calculators are using different base components in the reference panel, they won't be exactly same twice

Ok that make sense.

I thought it was strange the fact by the you mentioned that Neolithic Farmer is fake and just for Jews to feel better. That sounds weird to me.
Dirdepo
10-02-2020, 08:34 PM
By the fact that Neolithic Farmer is fake and just for Jews to feel better. That sounds weird to me.

If I dive deeper to explain will be your thread derailed by GrecoItalia mob/Espana, just trust me fam
Dirdepo
10-02-2020, 08:35 PM
travv!!!

North_Atlantic 14.88 = Paleo Atlantid

The one I post 0% NA #Goals