My dna analysis according to GedMatch

[aherne]

Following multiple requests, I've revisited GedMatch page and ran analysis of DNA:

Eurogenes K13 Admixture Proportions:



North_Atlantic 28.31 Pct
Baltic 24.08 Pct
West_Med 18.71 Pct
West_Asian 11.31 Pct
East_Med 11.92 Pct
Red_Sea 2.05 Pct
South_Asian 0.57 Pct
East_Asian 1.91 Pct
Siberian -
Amerindian 0.48 Pct
Oceanian 0.59 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.07 Pct


MDLP K11 Modern Admixture Proportions:



African -
Amerindian 0.97 Pct
ASI 0.26 Pct
Basal 7.27 Pct
Iran-Mesolithic 2.77 Pct
Neolithic 33.93 Pct
Oceanic -
EHG 25.22 Pct
SEA -
Siberian 1.62 Pct
WHG 27.95 Pct


Dodecad V3 Admixture Proportions:



East_European 17.67 Pct
West_European 33.62 Pct
Mediterranean 28.76 Pct
Neo_African -
West_Asian 13.39 Pct
South_Asian 1.27 Pct
Northeast_Asian 0.84 Pct
Southeast_Asian 0.78 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 3.62 Pct
Northwest_African -
Palaeo_African -


HarappaWorld Admixture Proportions:



S-Indian 0.08 Pct
Baloch 9.88 Pct
Caucasian 18.57 Pct
NE-Euro 37.31 Pct
SE-Asian 1.27 Pct
Siberian 0.86 Pct
NE-Asian -
Papuan 0.49 Pct
American -
Beringian 0.10 Pct
Mediterranean 27.62 Pct
SW-Asian 3.76 Pct
San -
E-African 0.06 Pct
Pygmy -
W-African -


puntDNAL K10 Ancient Admixture Proportions:



ASI 0.07 Pct
Sub-Saharan -
Oceanian 0.56 Pct
Beringian 1.24 Pct
ENF 31.02 Pct
CHG 26.10 Pct
Siberian 1.03 Pct
E_Asian -
WHG 38.69 Pct
Amerindian 1.29 Pct

[JamesBond007]

IMHO some PUNTDNAL calculators are OK for single population but they get crazy on the oracles. Eurogenes K13 and Eurogenes K15 are the best general calculators for Europeans I personally find K15 more accurate for me but K13 may be more accurate for you it depends. MDLP seems to be optimized for Lithuanians and maybe more generally baltic peoples and Dodecad is crap for Europeans.

Eurogenes K36 is a mess until Tolan brought order to it here . It took a Frenchman to bring order to Polack science :

https://gen3553.pagesperso-orange.fr/ADN/Europe.htm

https://gen3553.pagesperso-orange.fr/ADN/similitude.htm

That is my humble opinion on the matter.

[aherne]

In the past it used to have ethnicity admixture estimates. I can no longer find them...

Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 Admixture Proportions



North_Sea 19.34 Pct
Atlantic 17.14 Pct
Baltic 14.97 Pct
Eastern_Euro 10.54 Pct
West_Med 14.26 Pct
West_Asian 9.62 Pct
East_Med 9.94 Pct
Red_Sea 1.97 Pct
South_Asian 0.15 Pct
Southeast_Asian 1.43 Pct
Siberian -
Amerindian 0.10 Pct
Oceanian 0.53 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -


Eurogenes K36 Admixture Proportions



Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian 2.00 Pct
Basque -
Central_African -
Central_Euro 4.94 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 8.47 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 11.33 Pct
East_Med 5.13 Pct
Eastern_Euro 7.17 Pct
Fennoscandian 2.05 Pct
French 4.25 Pct
Iberian 21.23 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 7.59 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 0.33 Pct
North_African -
North_Atlantic 8.25 Pct
North_Caucasian 6.51 Pct
North_Sea 2.60 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian 0.09 Pct
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian 1.98 Pct
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 1.13 Pct
West_African -
West_Caucasian 1.43 Pct
West_Med 3.46 Pct

[MandM]

aherne the K15 Map, you and i are relatively close ...you are RED i am Green
https://i.ibb.co/r4tptZw/mapk15.png (https://ibb.co/r4tptZw)

[vbnetkhio]

In the past it used to have ethnicity admixture estimates. I can no longer find them...


it's the "Oracle" and "Oracle-4"

[Leto]

Wow, thank you, well done! :thumb001: One thing - Dodecad K12b is better than D. V3 :)

[Leto]

Your K13 Vahaduo oracle
http://vahaduo.genetics.ovh/

Target: aherne
Distance: 2.9452% / 2.94520930 | ADC: 0.5x
48.6 Romania_Crisana
29.4 Swiss_French
14.8 Turk_Sliven-Alevi
7.2 Hungarian_Transylvania

Target: aherne
Distance: 1.9008% / 1.90084188 | ADC: 0.25x
38.4 Serb_B&H_Krajina
37.0 Swiss_French
20.6 Turk_Sliven-Alevi
1.8 Southwest_French
1.8 Vlach_North-Macedonia
0.4 Dai

The Germanic seems real ("Swiss_French").

[Ion Basescul]

Following multiple requests, I've revisited GedMatch page and ran analysis of DNA:

Eurogenes K13 Admixture Proportions:



MDLP K11 Modern Admixture Proportions:



Dodecad V3 Admixture Proportions:



HarappaWorld Admixture Proportions:



puntDNAL K10 Ancient Admixture Proportions:

Are you like 1/32 German? There are pure Romanians who score more North Atlantic than you. One of them is even a member on Apricity.

EDIT: Actually, nevermind, I've just remembered that Saxons from Romania don't score like regular Germans and look heavily admixed with Romanians.

These 2 are full Saxons according to identity
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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan


28.80
23.90
16.40
11.34
15.81
1.81
0.97
0.44
0
0.32
0.14
0.08
0


30.10
26.02
16.78
7.59
14.70
2.70
0
0.83
0
0.89
0
0
0.37

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These 2 are half Romanian, half Saxon
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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan


28.88
26.28
17.72
10.59
11.28
1.75
0.52
0
1.14
1.07
0.36
0
0.40


29.21
27.19
15.89
5.67
15.46
4.29
0.36
1.58
0
0
0.24
0
0.12

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[MandM]

Wow, thank you, well done! :thumb001: One thing - Dodecad K12b is better than D. V3 :)

when i do Dodecad K12b i get MD_Centar but only on K12b,does anyone know what that is?

[Not a Cop]

Are you like 1/32 German? There are pure Romanians who score more North Atlantic than you. One of them is even a member on Apricity.

EDIT: Actually, nevermind, I've just remembered that Saxons from Romania don't score like regular Germans and look heavily admixed with Romanians.

These 2 are full Saxons according to identity
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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan


28.80
23.90
16.40
11.34
15.81
1.81
0.97
0.44
0
0.32
0.14
0.08
0


30.10
26.02
16.78
7.59
14.70
2.70
0
0.83
0
0.89
0
0
0.37

</tbody>
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These 2 are half Romanian, half Saxon
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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan


28.88
26.28
17.72
10.59
11.28
1.75
0.52
0
1.14
1.07
0.36
0
0.40


29.21
27.19
15.89
5.67
15.46
4.29
0.36
1.58
0
0
0.24
0
0.12

</tbody>
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May Saxons already come from South German areas and thus not being so northern genetically?

[Ion Basescul]

May Saxons already come from South German areas and thus not being so northern genetically?

AFAIK, there were different waves who came from different parts. Maybe someone from Romania knows more about the history than me.

[vbnetkhio]

when i do Dodecad K12b i get MD_Centar but only on K12b,does anyone know what that is?
Central Moldova, they are similar to Serbs.

[Jana]

Definite south German admixture in his results. Aherne is from Oltenia, not Transylvania as far as I know (somebody correct me if wrong), so he should be modeled as Wallachian + west Euro.
His Romanian side is probably Bulgarian/Macedonian like ("very southern") therefore when you add French/German like admix you get close to his results.

This DNA makes perfect sense, IMO.

[vbnetkhio]

His Romanian side is probably Bulgarian/Macedonian like ("very southern" )therefore when you add French/German like admix you get close to his results.


yes, that works for him:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?238642-The-fallacy-of-DNA-when-used-to-identify-someone-s-ethnicity&p=6920557&viewfull=1#post6920557

[Jana]

yes, that works for him:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?238642-The-fallacy-of-DNA-when-used-to-identify-someone-s-ethnicity&p=6920557&viewfull=1#post6920557

Gret post, you nailed it. :thumbsup: Aherne should read your post, and he will realize DNA is very precise tool.

[Not a Cop]

Gret post, you nailed it. :thumbsup: Aherne should read your post, and he will realize DNA is very precise tool.

Nothing really beats ancient Aryan teachings.

[Ion Basescul]

Here are your top 50 genetic distances to all my samples from Romania.


<tbody>
Distance to:
aherne


3.55290022
Romania_Transylvania_Mixed_22_1/2Romanian_1/2Saxon


3.79986842
Romania_Oltenia_8_Mehedinti


4.08612286
Romania_Muntenia_26_Arges


4.08947429
Romania_Transylvania_67_Brasov


4.15085533
Romania_Moldavia_36_Iasi


4.57204549
Romania_Muntenia_143_Bucuresti


4.61197355
Romania_Transylvania_52_Sibiu


4.70404082
Romania_Transylvania_50_Sibiu


4.83316666
Romania_Transylvania_Mixed_20_Saxon


4.88305232
Romania_Dobruja_23_Constanta


4.94981818
Romania_Transylvania_30_Mures


4.99442689
Romania_Transylvania_1_Bistrita-Nasaud


5.00781389
Romania_Banat_23_Caras-Severin


5.01827660
Romania_Crisana_4_Salaj


5.24318605
Romania_Crisana_10_Arad


5.27518720
Romania_Maramures_4_Maramures


5.28577336
Romania_Transylvania_32_Mures


5.43540247
Romania_Oltenia_42_Gorj


5.47486073
Romania_Transylvania_39_Alba


5.49532529
Romania_Moldavia_66_Galati


5.57624426
Romania_Transylvania_43_Alba


5.68171629
Romania_Moldavia_17_Suceava


5.77344784
Romania_Oltenia_41_Gorj


5.78636328
Romania_Crisana_13_Arad


5.81141979
Romania_Oltenia_56_Dolj


5.84603284
Romania_Transylvania_56_Sibiu


5.89740621
Romania_Transylvania_Mixed_21_Saxon


5.91177638
Romania_Transylvania_19_Cluj


5.92663480
Romania_Transylvania_3_Bistrita-Nasaud


5.92663480
Romania_Transylvania_18_Cluj


5.92764709
Romania_Transylvania_Mixed_6_Szekler


6.00182472
Romania_Dobruja_4_Constanta


6.03125194
Romania_Moldavia_33_Iasi


6.03125194
Romania_Moldavia_53_Bacau


6.06569864
Romania_Transylvania_2_Bistrita-Nasaud


6.06756953
Romania_Transylvania_34_Mures


6.06756953
Romania_Transylvania_60_Brasov


6.07400198
Romania_Transylvania_71_Hunedoara


6.07415838
Romania_Transylvania_47_Alba


6.07814116
Romania_Transylvania_15_Cluj


6.10611169
Romania_Moldavia_mixed_8_Csango


6.16887348
Romania_Banat_14_Timis


6.19264079
Romania_Moldavia_7_Botosani


6.27374689
Romania_Moldavia_16_Suceava


6.28857695
Romania_Transylvania_7_Cluj


6.33516377
Romania_Moldavia_45_Vaslui


6.36964677
Romania_Moldavia_9_Botosani


6.43232462
Romania_Transylvania_36_Alba


6.46727145
Romania_Banat_16_Timis


6.47393234
Romania_Moldavia_43_Neamt

</tbody>

[Leto]

when i do Dodecad K12b i get MD_Centar but only on K12b,does anyone know what that is?
I don't know. You're prolly a bit more Northern or more Eastern than their Serb average. It wasn't me who added the Serb.

[Ion Basescul]

If your Romanian side is from Oltenia, then here are your results with county averages.



Romania_Saxon,30.10,26.02,16.78,7.59,14.70,2.70,0, 0.83,0,0.89,0,0,0.37
Romania_Oltenia_Valcea,22.46,25.57,18.11,11.21,17. 77,1.71,0.94,0.76,0.41,0.51,0.33,0.12,0.11
Romania_Oltenia_Gorj,24.91,24.13,18.74,9.67,16.79, 2.00,0.96,0.89,0.87,0.34,0.37,0.22,0.10
Romania_Oltenia_Olt,23.65,24.89,17.66,10.75,19.04, 1.36,0.43,0.31,1.09,0.33,0.17,0.12,0.22
Romania_Oltenia_Dolj,24.16,25.19,17.61,10.64,17.66 ,1.73,0.24,0.81,1.03,0.33,0.40,0.07,0.13
Romania_Oltenia_Mehedinti,23.43,25.03,17.70,10.80, 17.97,2.06,0.71,0.97,0.45,0.39,0.44,0.03,0.01


Target: aherne
Distance: 5.0807% / 5.08073878
55.8 Romania_Saxon
44.2 Romania_Oltenia_Gorj
0.0 Romania_Oltenia_Valcea
0.0 Romania_Oltenia_Olt
0.0 Romania_Oltenia_Dolj
0.0 Romania_Oltenia_Mehedinti

[MandM]

LETO I just didint know what MD_center stood for, i dont think am more northern then avrage serb, would say more southern, on all my calculators my top 5 counties are always Serbia,Montenegro,Macedonia, Bulgaria and Romania, not allways in that order, but 90% of the time does countries, I know my cloes ancestors are serb from vojvodina north serbia, at least 200y, but befor that i dont know..I know in vojvodina came many from the southern parts of Serbians, but i do think i have more southern or south eastern then Serb average

[vbnetkhio]

If your Romanian side is from Oltenia, then here are your results with county averages.



Romania_Saxon,30.10,26.02,16.78,7.59,14.70,2.70,0, 0.83,0,0.89,0,0,0.37
Romania_Oltenia_Valcea,22.46,25.57,18.11,11.21,17. 77,1.71,0.94,0.76,0.41,0.51,0.33,0.12,0.11
Romania_Oltenia_Gorj,24.91,24.13,18.74,9.67,16.79, 2.00,0.96,0.89,0.87,0.34,0.37,0.22,0.10
Romania_Oltenia_Olt,23.65,24.89,17.66,10.75,19.04, 1.36,0.43,0.31,1.09,0.33,0.17,0.12,0.22
Romania_Oltenia_Dolj,24.16,25.19,17.61,10.64,17.66 ,1.73,0.24,0.81,1.03,0.33,0.40,0.07,0.13
Romania_Oltenia_Mehedinti,23.43,25.03,17.70,10.80, 17.97,2.06,0.71,0.97,0.45,0.39,0.44,0.03,0.01


Target: aherne
Distance: 5.0807% / 5.08073878
55.8 Romania_Saxon
44.2 Romania_Oltenia_Gorj
0.0 Romania_Oltenia_Valcea
0.0 Romania_Oltenia_Olt
0.0 Romania_Oltenia_Dolj
0.0 Romania_Oltenia_Mehedinti

that's also one of the best models for him.
but we need more Romanian Saxons to confirm their average is really like this.


[,1] [,2]
[1,] "50% % Austrian + 50% % Macedonian_Central" "4.5"
[2,] "50% % Bulgaria_Northcentral + 50% % Swiss_French" "4.7001"
[3,] "50% % Austrian + 50% % Moldova_South_Gagauzia" "4.7051"
[4,] "50% % Austrian + 50% % Macedonian_Southeast" "4.7083"
[5,] "50% % Austrian + 50% % Bulgaria_Southeastern" "4.7261"
[6,] "50% % Pomak + 50% % Swiss_German" "4.9756"
[7,] "50% % FRA_Alsace + 50% % Pomak" "5.1771"
[8,] "50% % Bulgaria_Southcentral + 50% % Swiss_French" "5.2458"
[9,] "50% % Austrian + 50% % Macedonian_North" "5.2652"
[10,] "50% % Macedonian_Central + 50% % Swiss_German" "5.2883"
[11,] "50% % East_German + 50% % Greek_Eastern-Macedonia" "5.2898"
[12,] "50% % Romania_Saxon + 50% % Romania_Oltenia_Gorj" "5.3474"
[13,] "50% % Italy_Lazio + 50% % Ukrainian_Lviv" "5.3731"
[14,] "50% % Bulgaria_average + 50% % Swiss_French" "5.3955"
[15,] "50% % Albanian_north_Albania + 50% % East_German" "5.4224"
[16,] "50% % Italy_Marche + 50% % Ukrainian_Lviv" "5.4273"
[17,] "50% % Albanian_Kosovo + 50% % Austrian" "5.4599"
[18,] "50% % Albanian_Kosovo + 50% % Croat_Croatia_Zagorje" "5.4683"
[19,] "50% % Bulgaria_Northeastern + 50% % Swiss_French" "5.4853"
[20,] "50% % Bosniak_Bosnia_proper + 50% % Italy_Veneto" "5.4886"
[21,] "50% % Moldova_South_Gagauzia + 50% % Swiss_German" "5.4895"
[22,] "50% % Bulgaria_Northwestern + 50% % Swiss_French" "5.5025"
[23,] "50% % Romania_Dobruja + 50% % Swiss_French" "5.5051"
[24,] "50% % Croat_B&H_Herzegovina + 50% % Swiss_French" "5.5842"
[25,] "50% % Greek_Eastern-Macedonia + 50% % Slovak" "5.5844"
[26,] "50% % East_German + 50% % Torbesh" "5.611"
[27,] "50% % Czech + 50% % Italy_Tuscany" "5.6244"
[28,] "50% % Moldova_Centre + 50% % Swiss_French" "5.6404"
[29,] "50% % Romania_Muntenia + 50% % Swiss_French" "5.6494"
[30,] "50% % Albanian_Montenegro + 50% % East_German" "5.6514"
[31,] "50% % Moldova_South + 50% % Swiss_French" "5.6574"
[32,] "50% % German_east + 50% % Greek_Western-Thrace" "5.6806"
[33,] "50% % Austrian + 50% % Macedonian" "5.6962"
[34,] "50% % FRA_Alsace + 50% % Macedonian_Central" "5.7079"
[35,] "50% % FRA_Belgica + 50% % Macedonian_Greece" "5.7228"
[36,] "50% % Italy_Lazio + 50% % South_Polish" "5.7483"
[37,] "50% % Hungarian_Transylvania + 50% % Romania_Oltenia_Gorj" "5.7696"
[38,] "50% % Romania_Crisana + 50% % Romania_Saxon" "5.7957"
[39,] "50% % Albanian + 50% % East_German" "5.7987"
[40,] "50% % German_east + 50% % Greek_West" "5.837"
[41,] "50% % Croat_Croatia_Zagorje + 50% % Macedonian_Southeast" "5.8605"
[42,] "50% % Hungarian_Transylvania + 50% % Montenegrin" "5.8689"
[43,] "50% % Hungarian_Szekely + 50% % Romania_Oltenia_Gorj" "5.9031"
[44,] "50% % Bulgaria_Southeastern + 50% % Swiss_German" "5.9036"
[45,] "50% % Italy_Umbria + 50% % Ukrainian_Lviv" "5.9089"
[46,] "50% % Bosniak_Sarajevo + 50% % Swiss_French" "5.9154"
[47,] "50% % Bosniak_Sandzak + 50% % Hungarian_Transylvania" "5.9193"
[48,] "50% % Croat_Slavonia + 50% % Italy_Friuli-VG" "5.9198"
[49,] "50% % FRA_Alsace + 50% % Moldova_South_Gagauzia" "5.9214"
[50,] "50% % Hungarian_Eastern + 50% % Romania_Oltenia_Gorj" "5.9223"

[Ion Basescul]

that's also one of the best models for him.


That's not the average, I just used the most Northern-shifted one.

[Leto]

LETO I just didint know what MD_center stood for, i dont think am more northern then avrage serb, would say more southern, on all my calculators my top 5 counties are always Serbia,Montenegro,Macedonia, Bulgaria and Romania, not allways in that order, but 90% of the time does countries, I know my cloes ancestors are serb from vojvodina north serbia, at least 200y, but befor that i dont know..I know in vojvodina came many from the southern parts of Serbians, but i do think i have more southern or south eastern then Serb average
MD means Moldova. Sorry, I'm not familiar with your results. Never seen Dodecad or Eurogenes.

[Norb]

R1a subclade?

[Jana]

AFAIK, there were different waves who came from different parts. Maybe someone from Romania knows more about the history than me.

Romanian Saxons are not real Saxons from Saxony, they come from SW Germany, Alsace, Rhineland and some Netherlands mostly. I don't know how they got a Saxon label actually.
That's why Swiss_French like admixture Aherne scores makes a lot of sense.

Found this, confirms what I said:

The first wave of settlement continued well until the end of the 13th century. Although the colonists came mostly from the western Holy Roman Empire and generally spoke Franconian dialects, they came to be collectively referred to as 'Saxons' because of Germans working for the Hungarian chancellery

[MandM]

MD means Moldova. Sorry, I'm not familiar with your results. Never seen Dodecad or Eurogenes.
You have nothing to be sorry about :)

[Leto]

You have nothing to be sorry about :)
Haha, alright. Just curious: what do you generally look like in Sweden? I mean Swedes are so white, even many Euros would look swarthy compared to them :D

[MandM]

Haha, alright. Just curious: what do you generally look like in Sweden? I mean Swedes are so white, even many Euros would look swarthy compared to them :D

Generaly Swedes like or have nothing agenst ex yugo,greeks or spaniard, its more the Mena and somalians they generly dont like, but to have so many imigrantes they are realy bad at classifying were one is from, i usaly get ex yugo,when i hade long hair people think i looked like zlatan ibrahimovic hahaha,but they have said greek and italian to.

[aherne]

Romanian Saxons are not real Saxons from Saxony, they come from SW Germany, Alsace, Rhineland and some Netherlands mostly. I don't know how they got a Saxon label actually.
That's why Swiss_French like admixture Aherne scores makes a lot of sense.

Found this, confirms what I said:

I'm not of Transylvanian Saxon origin: we descend from Banat Swabians that came from Germany in 18th century. Their Romanian admixture was probably zero BUT they were mixed with other Catholic settlers like Czechs/Slovaks and Croats (I have two great-grandparents that had Slovak and Croat surnames but they only spoke dialectal German). One of relatives holding Croat surname (Krivi), however, moved "back" to Yugoslavia and married a Serb: I remember that she only spoke your language and some broken Romanian. The relative holding Slovak surname (Hudáček) was traced back to late 18th century Slovakia but up to 2nd generation they were all German speakers (great-great-grandmother, great-great-great-grandparents)

[Leto]

@aherne, will you add Dodecad K12b? You have revealed your Gedmatch results anyway, so no big mystery left :cool:

[WeirdLookingFellow]

We have almost identical NA + Baltic ratio but your East Med is considerably lower and moves into West Asian and Red Sea.

FYI I have no known Western ancestors safe for some distant Ukrainian at a 1/16 level.

Population
North_Atlantic 28.06 Pct
Baltic 24.76 Pct
West_Med 17.53 Pct
West_Asian 6.52 Pct
East_Med 18.76 Pct
Red_Sea -
South_Asian 0.10 Pct
East_Asian -
Siberian 1.37 Pct
Amerindian 1.36 Pct
Oceanian 0.22 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 1.32 Pct

[Ion Basescul]

We have almost identical NA + Baltic ratio but your East Med is considerably lower and moves into West Asian and Red Sea.

FYI I have no known Western ancestors safe for some distant Ukrainian at a 1/16 level.

Population
North_Atlantic 28.06 Pct
Baltic 24.76 Pct
West_Med 17.53 Pct
West_Asian 6.52 Pct
East_Med 18.76 Pct
Red_Sea -
South_Asian 0.10 Pct
East_Asian -
Siberian 1.37 Pct
Amerindian 1.36 Pct
Oceanian 0.22 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 1.32 Pct

User alexmegas from Galati has even more North Atlantic at 30%. His Baltic is lower though at 20%.

[aherne]

Dodecad K12b Admixture Proportions

Population
Gedrosia 7.46 Pct
Siberian 0.46 Pct
Northwest_African 0.08 Pct
Southeast_Asian 1.39 Pct
Atlantic_Med 30.70 Pct
North_European 35.28 Pct
South_Asian 0.32 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 4.99 Pct
East_Asian 0.47 Pct
Caucasus 18.86 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

[Leto]

Dodecad K12b Admixture Proportions

Population
Gedrosia 7.46 Pct
Siberian 0.46 Pct
Northwest_African 0.08 Pct
Southeast_Asian 1.39 Pct
Atlantic_Med 30.70 Pct
North_European 35.28 Pct
South_Asian 0.32 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 4.99 Pct
East_Asian 0.47 Pct
Caucasus 18.86 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Thank you. You definitely have some Western ancestry, it's obvious.

By the way, what is your most recent Ancestry DNA estimate? They have had a couple of major updates since you opened the original thread almost 3 years ago.

[aherne]

Thank you. You definitely have some Western ancestry, it's obvious.

By the way, what is your most recent Ancestry DNA estimate? They have had a couple of major updates since you opened the original thread almost 3 years ago.

Complete bullshit:)


The Balkans
54%
Eastern Europe & Russia
23%
(Czech Republic, Slovakia, Poland & Lithuania)
Greece & Albania
10%
Germanic Europe
4%
Wales
3%
Sweden
3%
European Jewish
3%

[Norb]

Complete bullshit:)


The Balkans
54%
Eastern Europe & Russia
23%
(Czech Republic, Slovakia, Poland & Lithuania)
Greece & Albania
10%
Germanic Europe
4%
Wales
3%
Sweden
3%
European Jewish
3%

your more Welsh than I am!

[Leto]

Complete bullshit:)


The Balkans
54%
Eastern Europe & Russia
23%
(Czech Republic, Slovakia, Poland & Lithuania)
Greece & Albania
10%
Germanic Europe
4%
Wales
3%
Sweden
3%
European Jewish
3%
Do you think the Jewish part may be real? Those tests are heavily geared towards Jews who make up a large portion of the testers. I think if it's less than 1% it can be dismissed but 3% might be real. Any traceable Jewish ancestors from the last 100 years?