Diffusion of immigrants in local population

[princeton90]

Do you think 50-100 years later, Germans and Dutch will be more West Asian, French will be more North African and Arabian, British would be more South Asian as a consequence of diffusion of immigrants into native population? Just like Anatolian farmers and Steppe people diffused into Western Hunter Gatherer population.

[Lucas]

Do you think 50-100 years later, Germans and Dutch will be more West Asian, French will be more North African and Arabian, British would be more South Asian as a consequence of diffusion of immigrants into native population? Just like Anatolian farmers and Steppe people diffused into Western Hunter Gatherer population.

SSA admix will make them similar much more.

[princeton90]

Switzerland and Austria might also be more Southeast European.

[Ion Basescul]

Do you think 50-100 years later, Germans and Dutch will be more West Asian, French will be more North African and Arabian, British would be more South Asian as a consequence of diffusion of immigrants into native population? Just like Anatolian farmers and Steppe people diffused into Western Hunter Gatherer population.

They already are, but people are ashamed to include them in country averages or when calculating the rate of haplogroups. Don't forget other European countries too. Note that the data from below is almost 10 years old for some countries.

Sweden (https://web.archive.org/web/20180612141135/http://www.statistikdatabasen.scb.se/pxweb/en/ssd/START__BE__BE0101__BE0101Q/UtlSvBakgGrov/?rxid=86abd797-7854-4564-9150-c9b06ae3ab07c9b06ae3ab07)
"Every fourth (24.9%) resident in the country has immigrant (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration) background and every third (32.3%) has at least one parent born abroad."

Belgium (https://archive.vn/20120908042303/http://www.npdata.be/BuG/155-Vreemde-afkomst/Vreemde-afkomst.htm)
"At the beginning of 2012, people of foreign background and their descendants were estimated to have formed around 25% of the total population i.e. 2.8 million new Belgians.[135] Of these new Belgians, 1,200,000 are of European ancestry and 1,350,000[136] are from non-Western countries (most of them from Morocco, Turkey, and the DR Congo). Since the modification of the Belgian nationality law in 1984 more than 1.3 million migrants have acquired Belgian citizenship. The largest group of immigrants and their descendants in Belgium are Moroccans.[137]"

Switzerland (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Switzerland#Demographics)
"As of 2019, resident foreigners make up 25.2% of the population, one of the largest proportions in the developed world.[7] Most of these (64%) were from European Union or EFTA countries.[185] Italians were the largest single group of foreigners, with 15.6% of total foreign population, followed closely by Germans (15.2%), immigrants from Portugal (12.7%), France (5.6%), Serbia (5.3%), Turkey (3.8%), Spain (3.7%), and Austria (2%). Immigrants from Sri Lanka, most of them former Tamil refugees, were the largest group among people of Asian origin (6.3%).[185]

Additionally, the figures from 2012 show that 34.7% of the permanent resident population aged 15 or over in Switzerland (around 2.33 million), had an immigrant background.

In 2013 there were a total of 1,937,447 permanent residents (23.8% of the total population of 8.14 million) From other continents; 122,941 residents were from Asia; 83,873 from Africa; 78,433 from the Americas; and 4,145 from Oceania.[22]"

Austria (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austria#Demographics)
"According to Eurostat, in 2018 there were 1.69 million foreign-born residents in Austria, corresponding to 19.2% of the total population. Of these, 928,700 (10.5%) were born outside the EU and 762,000 (8.6%) were born in another EU Member State.[122] There are more than 483,100 descendants of foreign-born immigrants.[123]

Turks form one of the largest ethnic groups in Austria, numbering around 350,000.[124] 13,000 Turks were naturalised in 2003 and an unknown number have arrived in Austria at the same time. While 2,000 Turks left Austria in the same year, 10,000 immigrated to the country, confirming a strong trend of growth.[125] Together, Serbs, Croats, Bosniaks, Macedonians, and Slovenes make up about 5.1% of Austria's total population."

Norway (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norway#Demographics)
"In 2013, the Norwegian government said that 14% of the Norwegian population were immigrants or children of two immigrant parents. About 6% of the immigrant population come from EU, North America and Australia, and about 8.1% come from Asia, Africa and Latin America.[211]"

[Jana]

Foreigners should never be included in country genetic averages/statistics. It becomes acceptable only when entire population aquires such admix and it takes centuries.

[Lexx]

Foreigners should never be included in country genetic averages/statistics. It becomes acceptable only when entire population aquires such admix and it takes centuries.

That's why he said 50-100 years later though I think it's gonna take more than 50 years. Maybe in a 100 years.

[Blondie]

No, because this migrant policy will not be forever.

[Teutonski]

Germany is gone gone.

Its over with the German mayority in a few decades, thats already a fact.

Same with Sweden and Belgium.

[Hamilcar]

in the long term yes

[Renekton]

Sad future, but that's the natural order...

[Ion Basescul]

No, because this migrant policy will not be forever.

This, it will only open up.

[Blondie]

This, it will only open up.

Look the AfD or National Front in France, or FPÖ etc these were all insignificant mini parties 10 years ago and now they are very popular and became more popular in every year. Days of libtards are numbered.

[Ion Basescul]

Look the AfD or National Front in France, or FPÖ etc these were all insignificant mini parties 10 years ago and now they are very popular and became more popular in every year. Days of libtards are numbered.

I'm aware. Fringe cringies, which in practice always fail. Will get decimated in no time.
I recommend this reading (https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/09/24/euroskeptic-europe-covid-19-trump-russia-migration/).

[Leto]

Just because the immigrants and their children are living in European countries doesn't mean they are becoming or going to become French, English, German, etc. Who in their right mind would seriously believe millions of young Muslims and Africans are going to adopt English or German identity and culture which they frankly despise. Have Europeans in North America and Australia become Native American and Aboriginal? No, those will be different peoples/groups of people. More like a mixed rootless urban consumer population with no authentic national culture.

[Leto]

I'm aware. Fringe cringies, which in practice always fail. Will get decimated in no time.
I recommend this reading (https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/09/24/euroskeptic-europe-covid-19-trump-russia-migration/).
No offense but you're pretty much an openly virtue-signalling globalist as far as I can see. Always share liberal Soros-funded publications and shit like that.

[Ion Basescul]

No offense but you're pretty much an openly virtue-signalling globalist as far as I can see. Always share liberal Soros-funded publications and shit like that.

That's a compliment as far as I'm aware. But the strong survive. It's the law of the animal kingdom. There's no point in moaning all your life about this. Just adapt and learn to live with changes. This is my credo.

[Leto]

That's a compliment as far as I'm aware. But the strong survive. It's the law of the animal kingdom. There's no point in moaning all your life about this. Just adapt and learn to live with changes. This is my credo.
That's far from a compliment if you know something about my views. And that ain't natural at all, there is such a thing called weaponized migration. Those migrants are being invited and supported by globalist governments and their shills like you. Without that they would never make it to Europe. The migrants are being used against the natives and when the natives protest they face persecution and ostracism. The ultimate goal is to create this:

a mixed rootless urban consumer population with no authentic national culture
I won't be debating this because this has nothing to do with DNA testing, just had to voice my opinion hoping it would get one or two users/readers thinking.

[WeirdLookingFellow]

That's a compliment as far as I'm aware. But the strong survive. It's the law of the animal kingdom. There's no point in moaning all your life about this. Just adapt and learn to live with changes. This is my credo.

This isn't a "pay tribute to the Mongols or get your city razed off the face of Earth" situation.

Immigration benefits only global companies and, for a short time, the few who manage to immigrate to a "better place". This statement does not need any Soros/Reptilian/Annunaki/Nazis on the Moon argument - it's purely financial and demographic.

[Ion Basescul]

That's far from a compliment if you know something about my views.

Bold of you to assume that I care about your or anyone else's views. Everyone is free to support whatever they want, as long as it doesn't break the law. I won't ever deny that.
Aren't you a migrant yourself? Your English looks native.

[TheMaestro]

Ye sure, it's happening right now, in 100 years it will be much more significant, in few decades the immigrants will normally blend in into society and interacial couples which are a norm even now will be more common. This applies to countries like UK, France, Germany, Benelux and some Scandianavians countries.

[Leto]

Bold of you to assume that I care about your or anyone else's views. Everyone is free to support whatever they want, as long as it doesn't break the law. I won't ever deny that.
Aren't you a migrant yourself? Your English looks native.
My English is fluent but it's not native. That is all I will say.

[Ion Basescul]

.

Immigration benefits only global companies and, for a short time, the few who manage to immigrate to a "better place".

Those who don't like this should stay all day at sperm banks, if they want to change something. If there isn't enough workforce, then it will be imported, and the opinion of the plebeians won't really be taken into consideration. That's the reality.

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[Varda]

Just because the immigrants and their children are living in European countries doesn't mean they are becoming or going to become French, English, German, etc. Who in their right mind would seriously believe millions of young Muslims and Africans are going to adopt English or German identity and culture which they frankly despise. Have Europeans in North America and Australia become Native American and Aboriginal? No, those will be different peoples/groups of people. More like a mixed rootless urban consumer population with no authentic national culture.

On the west Arabs will stay Arabs, Turks will stay Turks, Kurds will stay Kurds, and of course they will stay muslims on first place. Various muslims live on the west several generations and they did not become Germans, French, English etc. Large part of them are not even fully integrated in societies where they were born or live many years.

[Teutonski]

On the west Arabs will stay Arabs, Turks will stay Turks, Kurds will stay Kurds, and of course they will stay muslims on first place. Various muslims live on the west several generations and they did not become Germans, French, English etc. Large part of them are not even fully integrated in societies where they were born or live many years.

For Germany:

They are a majority already in many significant cities.
They pop-culturally already influence German culture.
They managed to get immigrant qoutas hiring standards.
They have a easily 2times higher birthrate.
Plus they annually immigrate to Germany from 200k - 500k.
Not even 20% of Germans are capable to mobilize against it.
The strongest rising party is calling for more immigration.

Arabs and no sane mind would assimilate or respect a weak culture like the post modern liberal democracies.
As a native German I even oppose everything that defines modern Germany.

The place is lost.

[Lexx]

Just because the immigrants and their children are living in European countries doesn't mean they are becoming or going to become French, English, German, etc. Who in their right mind would seriously believe millions of young Muslims and Africans are going to adopt English or German identity and culture which they frankly despise. Have Europeans in North America and Australia become Native American and Aboriginal? No, those will be different peoples/groups of people. More like a mixed rootless urban consumer population with no authentic national culture.

It depends on the amounts they take in. If they take in mass amounts then no they wont be assimilated but rather a population replacement will occur most likely where the natives might get assimilated instead but in Western Europe you have different type of immigrant cultures, so this most likely wont occur, so it's plausible these people will adapt a lot of elements from the country they live in + their own different cultures into a single identity. Or it will just remain a mixed bag of different type of peoples.

[princeton90]

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[Teutonski]

Not most of them but some of the immigrants are willing to assimilate into the stronger culture. We already see people who look atypical for their ethnicity (such as Hummels brothers and Alicia Vikander). Maybe those are the people just have immigration background, but assimilated into German and Swedish cultures, and identify as such.

Retard, Hummels is 1000% German, we know his parents and grandparents.

All Hummels proofs is that phenotypes are a joke.

[Jana]

Just because the immigrants and their children are living in European countries doesn't mean they are becoming or going to become French, English, German, etc. Who in their right mind would seriously believe millions of young Muslims and Africans are going to adopt English or German identity and culture which they frankly despise. Have Europeans in North America and Australia become Native American and Aboriginal? No, those will be different peoples/groups of people. More like a mixed rootless urban consumer population with no authentic national culture.

Gypsies for example live in Europe for centuries and never became European. Neither did Jews who always kept to themself.
So I don't see vast majority of immigrants becoming European in the future.

[Leto]

Assimilation cannot work together with mass immigration and the policy of multiculturalism. Besides, Europeans have a weak identity (too liberal, secular and individualistic) and don't value their own culture whereas non-Europeans are often proud and self-assured.

[Jana]

For Germany:

They are a majority already in many significant cities.
They pop-culturally already influence German culture.
They managed to get immigrant qoutas hiring standards.
They have a easily 2times higher birthrate.
Plus they annually immigrate to Germany from 200k - 500k.
Not even 20% of Germans are capable to mobilize against it.
The strongest rising party is calling for more immigration.

Arabs and no sane mind would assimilate or respect a weak culture like the post modern liberal democracies.
As a native German I even oppose everything that defines modern Germany.

The place is lost.

You should fight for Germany and never give up your ancestors country. With faith in God, nothing is lost.

[Jana]

Those who don't like this should stay all day at sperm banks, if they want to change something. If there isn't enough workforce, then it will be imported, and the opinion of the plebeians won't really be taken into consideration. That's the reality.

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Bad argument as immigrants are totally unskilled and very useless in modern post-industrial nations, most are illiterate and coming here for welfare benefits. Besides robotisation will cancel need for low skilled labor.

[Blondie]

You should fight for Germany and never give up your ancestors country. With faith in God, nothing is lost.

We danube swabians have kept the old german traditions, although we are not numerous (only half million) but we have many aryan aldebaran alien blood and it make us more stronger because we can use the Vril energy just like the superheroes and don't forget the danube swabian robo army led by me and Sekkmer in Neuschwabenland, Ostantarktika. We will liberate Germany one day, the new capital will be the in the Pilisch (holy forest of danube swabians) where the heart chakra of the world is located.

[Dirdepo]

Germans have no traditions, your country is 205 years old

For example USA, also no traditions, is 244 years old lol

[Teutonski]

You should fight for Germany and never give up your ancestors country. With faith in God, nothing is lost.

Math doesnt care about desires or feelings.
The death of Germany is a simple mathematic fact.
Ignore all realistic indicators can be patriotic, but then patriotic means being dumb.

[Blondie]

Germans have no traditions, your country is 205 years old

For example USA, also no traditions, is 244 years old lol

The the german ethnicity existed before the unification, and there were many german state (Bavaria, Austria, Prussia), unlike USA because there were no americans before 18 century, so your logic makes no sense.

[Ion Basescul]

Bad argument as immigrants are totally unskilled and very useless in modern post-industrial nations, most are illiterate and coming here for welfare benefits. Besides robotisation will cancel need for low skilled labor.

Robotisation and the disappearance of jobs is a meme. You need people to operate the machines, look after them physically and then loads of programmers and other specialists to implement the software and tweak them. The skill level requirement will simply increase. To adress your first argument, I don't think that anyone puts much hope in the first generation. It's the offspring that is more valuable, since they will be educated domestically.

[Jana]

Math doesnt care about desires or feelings.
The death of Germany is a simple mathematic fact.
Ignore all realistic indicators can be patriotic, but then patriotic means being dumb.

Germans (and other Europeans) survived worse things than this like 30year war or Black Plague, so I don't see reason for not awakening. You're too pessimistic.

[Blondie]

Germans (and other Europeans) survived worse things like this like 30year war or Black Plague, so I don't see reason for not awakening. You're too pessimistic.

I'm sure Teutone has some hungarian blood, because hungarians are the most pessimistic peoples in Europe :cool:

[Jana]

Jews waited 2000 years to get a country, but they never gave up. Some nations like Kurds are still waiting but it will come. Human life is a short event in history.
Already in next generation things can be radically different.

[Teutonski]

Germans (and other Europeans) survived worse things like this like 30year war or Black Plague, so I don't see reason for not awakening. You're too pessimistic.

There was noone replacing them.
Most civilisation,cultures,ethnicities did not recover from a ethnic replacement. But a weak race naturally deserves replacement and defeat. I can assure you most Germans actively vote for the destruction, they are hedonistic consumers, such weak creatures beg for replacement. The German people are more than nations.
I feel pride in German nations with hope and sanity like Switzwerland and Austria.

[Jana]

I'm sure Teutone has some hungarian blood, because hungarians are the most pessimistic peoples in Europe :cool:

In that he remind me of Stears.

[Teutonski]

I'm sure Teutone has some hungarian blood, because hungarians are the most pessimistic peoples in Europe :cool:

I am very hopeful for my people in Austria and Switzerland, for Germany I just accept reality.

Ce'st la vie honey

[Teutonski]

Being a German never was linked with the nation of Germany for me, consistently since I joined the forum.

[Jana]

There was noone replacing them.
Most civilisation,cultures,ethnicities did not recover from a ethnic replacement. But a weak race naturally deserves replacement and defeat. I can assure you most Germans actively vote for the destruction, they are hedonistic consumers, such weak creatures beg for replacement. The German people are more than nations.
I feel pride in German nations with hope and sanity like Switzwerland and Austria.

There is a solution - patriotic Germans need to produce much more children than liberal Germans, which isn't a hard task. Demography is a key and in that nazis were absolutely correct.
Regarding violent immigrants, they need to be expelled like Iberians did during reconquista. Keep in mind it took 700 years, didn't happen overnight and in the end they were victorious.

[Blondie]

I feel pride in German nations with hope and sanity like Switzwerland and Austria.

Why are you not proud of danube swabians? I'm very sure we are the most right wing german ethnicity in the world and this is not joke in this time.

[Leto]

Being a German never was linked with the nation of Germany for me, consistently since I joined the forum.
Austria has the same percentage of people with MiHiGru (migration background) as Germany and in Switzerland it's even higher. Besides Switzerland is only partially a Germanic country.

[Jana]

Austria has the same percentage of people with MiHiGru (migration background) as Germany and in Switzerland it's even higher. Besides Switzerland is only partially a Germanic country.

Local population is very conservative though.

[Teutonski]

There is a solution - patriotic Germans need to produce much more children than liberal Germans, which isn't a hard task. Demography is a key and in that nazis were absolutely correct.
Regarding violent immigrants, they need to be expelled like Iberians did during reconquista. Keep in mind it took 700 years, didn't happen overnight and in the end they were victorious.

But all of that is not realistic at all, it is fantasizing about something that will never happen.

No Nation in Europe will ever have a 2.0 birthrate again, not in the system. That per se, wouldnt be a bad thing at all, if there was no mass immigration taking place. Europe cant win a breeding war against SSA, not even Arabs are close to SSA birthrate.

[Teutonski]

Austria has the same percentage of people with MiHiGru (migration background) as Germany and in Switzerland it's even higher. Besides Switzerland is only partially a Germanic country.

Biggest immigrant group in Austria are GERMANS.
Plus there is political change there.

[Teutonski]

Why are you not proud of danube swabians? I'm very sure we are the most right wing german ethnicity in the world and this is not joke in this time.

Where I said anything against danube swabians ever?
I think I said they are my people.

[Jana]

But all of that is not realistic at all, it is fantasizing about something that will never happen.

No Nation in Europe will ever have a 2.0 birthrate again, not in the system. That per se, wouldnt be a bad thing at all, if there was no mass immigration taking place. Europe cant win a breeding war against SSA, not even Arabs are close to SSA birthrate.

Why not? Having multiple children is pretty easy for well educated conservative Europeans.
I plan to have 3-4 and we aren't rich.

It's only a matter of willing.

[Dirdepo]

The the german ethnicity existed before the unification, and there were many german state (Bavaria, Austria, Prussia), unlike USA because there were no americans before 18 century, so your logic makes no sense.

It makes perfect sense Borreby slu

[TheMaestro]

In that he remind me of Stears.

The savior

https://i.imgur.com/El5zhZa.jpg

[Jana]

The savior

Stears is pessimistic for Hungary's future, he claims it will be overtaken by Gypsies. But he is pessimistic by nature. I am not.

[princeton90]

Retard, Hummels is 1000% German, we know his parents and grandparents.

All Hummels proofs is that phenotypes are a joke.

I am sorry.

[Teutonski]

Why not? Having multiple children is pretty easy for well educated conservative Europeans.
I plan to have 3-4 and we aren't rich.

It's only a matter of willing.

It doesnt matter at all on a individualist basis.
It gotta be a nationwide trend, it aint going to happen.

[Blondie]

Where I said anything against danube swabians ever?
I think I said they are my people.

So are you proud of us? :)

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/25/f5/f9/25f5f980ad1b86e573a71543fee08c88.gif

[Blondie]

It makes perfect sense Borreby slu

Is it your next troll acc Cumansky?

[Teutonski]

So are you proud of us? :)

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/25/f5/f9/25f5f980ad1b86e573a71543fee08c88.gif

I guess yea ;)

[Dirdepo]

Is it your next troll acc Cumansky?

Who is that?

[Jana]

It doesnt matter at all on a individualist basis.
It gotta be a nationwide trend, it aint going to happen.

What kind of nationalists don't want big family??! They shouldn't call themself such than.
For liberals who cares, less their numbers the better.

Better have 40M nation made of patriots than 80M made of libtards.
So reducation in numbers isn't negative if only number of liberals is falling.

[Leto]

Stears is pessimistic for Hungary's future, he claims it will be overtaken by Gypsies. But he is pessimistic by nature. I am not.
At least they speak Hungarian and aren't Muslims. Even the "they belong in India" argument has been debunked by genetics.

[Jana]

At least they speak Hungarian and aren't Muslims. Even the "they belong in India" argument has been debunked by genetics.

Vast majority is totally unassimilable, Gypsy culture is one of most negative on Earth. Sadly.
Not all, but those who do integrate are in such small numbers and they are shamed for that by other Gypsies.

They're really toxic.

[Teutonski]

What kind of nationalists don't want big family??! They shouldn't call themself such than.
For liberals who cares, less their numbers the better.

Better have 40M nation made of patriots than 80M made of libtards.
So reducation in numbers isn't negative if only number of liberals is falling.

Polaks are nationalists, low birthrate.

[Leto]

Vast majority is totally unassimilable, Gypsy culture is one of most negative on Earth. Sadly.
Not all, but those who do integrate are in such small numbers and they are shamed for that by other Gypsies.

They're really toxic.
So 9 years of Orban's staunch national conservatism haven't had a positive effect on them?

[Samnium]

Saying that it's too late in 2020, it's just demoralizing Europeans and I would say that either you are actively and intentionally participating to our destruction, or that you just don't know what you say.

[Leto]

Saying that it's too late in 2020, it's just demoralizing Europeans and I would say that either you are actively and intentionally participating to our destruction, or that you just don't know what you say.
But what is your assessment of the current French demographics? I'm interested in statistics and research quite a bit into the subject. 1 out of 3 babies in France is born to one or two foreign-born parents. In Paris it's 1 out of 2.

[Jana]

Polaks are nationalists, low birthrate.

Maybe, but my country has similar traits and I can tell you most of people (in cities at least) don't care, they are rootless consumers just like in the west.
Real nationalists are minority in modern Europe.

[Dirdepo]

Polaks are nationalists, low birthrate.

1 Polak is worth 5 Ramzan Kadyrovs

[Blondie]

I guess yea ;)

I can't say exact number how many but tons of danube swabians have NSDAP and Hitler nostalgia, i have seen it many times under hungarian youtube videos, but others are also very conservative and religious.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5zh4hqi4uI

[Blondie]

Who is that?

you :rolleyes:

[Jana]

So 9 years of Orban's staunch national conservatism hasn't had a positive effect on them?

They vote for him. Orban givers them some benefits. He is a clientelist, sort of a mobster.
Stears mother studied with Gypsy guy who was excellent student and later public attorney. But such cases are rarity as far as I know.

[Teutonski]

Where I said anything against danube swabians ever?
I think I said they are my people.


Maybe, but my country has similar traits and I can tell you most of people (in cities at least) don't care, they are rootless consumers just like in the west.
Real nationalists are minority in modern Europe.

So you cant win the breeding war.
The system gotta fall.

[Teutonski]

1 Polak is worth 5 Ramzan Kadyrovs

Kadyrov ensures a high birthrate, secures the ethno-religious heritage of his people and secured peace in chechnya.

[Blondie]

They vote for him. Orban givers them some benefits. He is a clientelist, sort of a mobster.
Stears mother studied with Gypsy guy who was excellent student and later public attorney. But such cases are rarity as far as I know.

Gypsies are voting for Orbán because before the election they got tons of money, potato etc that's why.

[Dirdepo]

Kadyrov ensures a high birthrate, secures the ethno-religious heritage of his people and secured peace in chechnya.

Ok

[Samnium]

But what is your assessment of the current French demographics? I'm interested in statistics and research quite a bit into the subject. 1 out of 3 babies in France is born to one or two foreign-born parents. In Paris it's 1 out of 2.

Your numbers aren't far from the truth. Actually they are very close IMO (especially for Paris region).

I estimate overall, that there are 25-30% of non Whites in France. This is so far, the largest number in any european country. Mass immigration in France has began in the 70s, decades before everyone else.

[princeton90]

Vast majority is totally unassimilable, Gypsy culture is one of most negative on Earth. Sadly.
Not all, but those who do integrate are in such small numbers and they are shamed for that by other Gypsies.

They're really toxic.

Once I saw on Reddit that a Turkish person scores 34% South Asian on My Heritage DNA and closest model on his gedmatch oracle was 50% Syrian and 50% Brahmin. Some people told him he might be a Gypsy but he insisted he is fully Turkish. Maybe Turkey is not fully European but seems like the person is an assimilated Gypsy. I wish I could find the thread but I couldn’t. Maybe it was deleted.

[Narration]

Yes, it is a natural order.

[Hamilcar]

Just because the immigrants and their children are living in European countries doesn't mean they are becoming or going to become French, English, German, etc. Who in their right mind would seriously believe millions of young Muslims and Africans are going to adopt English or German identity and culture which they frankly despise. Have Europeans in North America and Australia become Native American and Aboriginal? No, those will be different peoples/groups of people. More like a mixed rootless urban consumer population with no authentic national culture.

Actually that is currently happening many of them are well integrated and lost their ancestral culture (many of them also have indigenous partners and their children most of the time look european) and it's not rare finding a "foreigner" who identify as french,english,german. It's just a question of time before they get totally assimilated and accepted (btw I'm not saying it's good or bad I'm just describing what I see)

No offense but I think based on where you live you're not really aware of the reality in western europe

[Ion Basescul]

Actually that is currently happening many of them are well integrated and lost their ancestral culture (many of them also have indigenous partners and their children most of the time look european) and it's not rare finding a "foreigner" who identify as french,english,german. It's just a question of time before they get totally assimilated and accepted (btw I'm not saying it's good or bad I'm just describing what I see)

No offense but I think based on where you live you're not really aware of the reality in western europe

In that case, why don't you change your profile's country flag for the real country in which you live?

[Hamilcar]

Saying that it's too late in 2020, it's just demoralizing Europeans and I would say that either you are actively and intentionally participating to our destruction, or that you just don't know what you say.

what are your solutions ? I don't see how you would be able to expel millions of people from all the european countries especially that a good portion of them are politicians, police officers, soldiers, etc etc seems unrealistic

[Hamilcar]

In that case, why don't you change your profile's country flag for the real country in which you live?

I wasn't specifically talking about me. In my case I'm not fully assimilated but my children probably will

[Rohanspiritual]

Yes, in my opinion.
Browning will occur.

That's life, though. Nothing can really be done about it. Native Europe is clearly 'tired', and however uncivilized and low IQ the immigrants may be, they have the 'virality' of the barbarian, the conqueror.

[mitalit]

In 100 years many things will change

[Alaric Rose]

what are your solutions ? I don't see how you would be able to expel millions of people from all the european countries especially that a good portion of them are politicians, police officers, soldiers, etc etc seems unrealistic

Allowing millions of people into the continent would've seemed unrealistic 50 years ago. Immigrants are not a very influential class, not represented much in Military/Police/Politics as you seem to think. Mass repatriation is a matter of European political willpower. In Sweden for example you could deport 500 000 people in 3 months (or a million in half a year) with the largely redundant SAS fleet alone.

I think the real change will occur with increased AI and automation. Currently Europe does require millions in cheap labour, which is why politicians justified economic migration however as AI and automation continue to grow and takes millions of jobs away, the economic importance of the immigrant population will disappear. As soon the capitalists and industrialists no longer need immigrants, the political finance of pro-immigration will end. We're going to be dealing with lots of unemployment which will also pressure politicians.

[El_Abominacion]

England at least is going to continue down the current path of demographic change. It's not even particularly because of mixing, but a result of continuous immigration and low native fertility rates. White British (both men and women) are career oriented and hold out until as late as their 30s before starting families, and when they do it's only one or two children. Ethnics and immigrants start families or get knocked up in their early 20's or late teens and have far more kids on average

This is the British fertility rate, not even at replacement level. Mind you this is including immigrant groups/nonwhites living here, 1/3 of babies born in the UK were not white British in 2014. The white British fertility rate will be even lower than this.

https://i.gyazo.com/ede548dd674491202878e62899e98d3d.png


And compared to the fertility rate of popular countries of origin for non-EU immigrants

https://i.gyazo.com/ffadc5f30b21e8e71cf8f209a67b71ef.png
https://i.gyazo.com/e5ecb1ddbf589744f01db958e1556b22.png
https://i.gyazo.com/8b1e7cc3178eee3f72a5fa00a38a35f2.png
https://i.gyazo.com/92a94ae519631b5941f7434195110475.png

[Samnium]

what are your solutions ? I don't see how you would be able to expel millions of people from all the european countries especially that a good portion of them are politicians, police officers, soldiers, etc etc seems unrealistic

Not unrealistic at all. Do the maths.

There are dozen of millions of people that come in Europe every year in order to visit it. Do you really think that it would be difficult to do the same in reverse order ?

[Hamilcar]

Not unrealistic at all. Do the maths.

There are dozen of millions of people that come in Europe every year in order to visit it. Do you really think that it would be difficult to do the same in reverse order ?

yes because it would imply the cooperation of all the european countries and don't forget that the great majority of these "foreigners" don't have any type of goods/property in their ancestral countries so basically that's like kicking out someone from his house and making him a homeless person (many of them have children I really doubt they will accept it gently and I doubt the international community will let that happen we're no more in 1492 to act this way)

[Leto]

Remigration doesn't have to happen overnight. The identitarians advocate for peaceful and gradual remigration/repatriation.
Before the Soviet Union collapsed there were millions of ethnic Russians in Central Asia and Transcaucasia. And what happened to them? Most of them have left since 1991.
Also over a million of Jews have left the former Soviet Union since then. 2.5 million ethnic Germans and their family members (I think that includes the former Eastern bloc, not just the USSR).