Mediterranean&Atlantic Islanders Model (G25 scaled)

[gixajo]

Based in a Defcon2 model (AKA "mala gente"), this time with customized references. Just for fun.

Scaled

https://vahaduo.github.io/vahaduo/

You can use this instead of Vahaduo if you like it more(Adam-medium preset configuration and custom model):

https://yk.github.io/ancestry/



NorthAtlantic_Islander,0.1325874,0.1346338,0.06290 32,0.0489878,0.0392136,0.0191160,0.0034700,0.00553 06,0.0039228,0.0012238,-0.0056356,0.0055894,-0.0113574,-0.0113616,0.0225392,0.0038620,-0.0108508,0.0026234,0.0023652,0.0012056,0.0057046, 0.0024722,-0.0000676,0.0142830,0.0008000
Mediterranean_Islander:West,0.1193713,0.1553403,0. 0295410,-0.0254843,0.0453050,-0.0114683,-0.0021153,0.0014657,0.0255013,0.0468073,-0.0017363,0.0106843,-0.0189700,-0.0108987,-0.0047243,-0.0004480,0.0058147,0.0003193,0.0017540,-0.0068060,-0.0006573,-0.0000790,-0.0038103,-0.0074827,-0.0014347
Mediterranean_Islander:Center,0.0984253,0.1462077,-0.0033887,-0.0400207,0.0168363,-0.0143357,-0.0023303,-0.0001027,0.0106747,0.0213797,0.0056223,0.0026560,-0.0037580,0.0014257,-0.0041487,-0.0029337,-0.0017147,-0.0016503,0.0010387,-0.0041220,-0.0017850,0.0003020,-0.0007583,-0.0000050,0.0011807
Mediterranean_Islander:East,0.1048203,0.1465117,-0.0255753,-0.0569177,0.0009550,-0.0193047,0.0015693,-0.0032507,-0.0020087,0.0145327,0.0028283,0.0019253,-0.0007763,0.0023927,-0.0104930,0.0000057,0.0046343,0.0009463,0.0033397,-0.0034800,-0.0037850,0.0014120,-0.0012133,-0.0002780,-0.0020473

NorthAtlantic_Islander,=Irish,+English,+Icelandic, +Orcadian,+Shetlandic,
Mediterranean_Islander:West,=Spanish_Baleares,+Sar dinian,+French_Corsica,
Mediterranean_Islander:Center,=Maltese,+Sicilian_E ast,+Sicilian_West,
Mediterranean_Islander:East,=Greek_Crete,+Cypriot, +Greek_Kos,

Alternative reference proposed by Seya:


Mediterranean_Islander:WestB,0.118214,0.149368,0.0 30067,-0.012901,0.037882,-0.006136,-0.001197,0.000951,0.017465,0.031536,-0.002575,0.007702,-0.014123,-0.009861,-0.000301,0.000829,0.003021,0.001153,0.001791,-0.003712,0.000075,0.000433,-0.000674,-0.000533,-0.002321

Mediterranean_Islander:WestB,=French_Corsica,+Span ish_Baleares,

[gixajo]

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 2.2309% / 0.02230917
64.0 Mediterranean_Islander
36.0 Atlantic_Islander

Target: gixajo_dad_scaled
Distance: 2.3763% / 0.02376279
77.6 Mediterranean_Islander
22.4 Atlantic_Islander

Target: gixajo_mom_scaled
Distance: 2.8402% / 0.02840227
55.2 Mediterranean_Islander
44.8 Atlantic_Islander

https://i.imgur.com/dSuzQGs.png

[gixajo]

With the Ancestry calculator,my results are these:

Distance: 2.2557154884111204%

Mediterranean_Islander: 63.9%
Atlantic_Islander: 36.1%
Other: 0.0%

My father:

Distance: 2.3924664549166264%

Mediterranean_Islander: 77.4%
Atlantic_Islander: 22.6%
Other: -0.0%

And my mother results:

Distance: 2.8676855203056233%

Mediterranean_Islander: 55.3%
Atlantic_Islander: 44.7%
Other: -0.0%

[mitalit]

Target: Xabier_scaled
Distance: 2.7267% / 0.02726728
57.8 Mediterranean_Islander
42.2 Atlantic_Islander

Distance to: Xabier_scaled
0.05489433 Mediterranean_Islander:West
0.07074626 Atlantic_Islander
0.08092375 Mediterranean_Islander:Center
0.11229892 Mediterranean_Islander:East

[Pedro Ruben]

Target: Pedro_scaled
Distance: 4.0936% / 0.04093640
63.8 Mediterranean_Islander
36.2 Atlantic_Islander

[Celestia]

Target: Celestia
Distance: 4.7562% / 0.04756163
77.4 Atlantic_Islander
22.6 Mediterranean_Islander

[gixajo]

[...r

Maybe I should change "Atlantic_Islander" and rename with "NorthAtlantic_Islander"?

I thought in adding a Canarian reference as Atlantic , but we have only one reference, and I want to make averages/means for all the references in sources.

If we had an Açores or Madeira reference it would be ok, but mixing Cabo Verde and Canarias it´s ridiculous. Isn´t it?

[Pedro Ruben]

Maybe I should change "Atlantic_Islander" and rename with "NorthAtlantic_Islander"?

I thought in adding a Canarian reference as Atlantic , but we have only one reference, and I want to make averages/means for all the references in sources.

If we had an Açores or Madeira reference it would be ok, but mixing Cabo Verde and Canarias it´s ridiculous. Isn´t it?

I think North Atlantic is better ... when I read Atlantic islands I thought of the Canaries, Azores and Madeira :p. Cape Verde i think it will not be a good idea (being for Europeans)... most of them must be 70% SSA

[Defcon2]

Target: Juan_scaled
Distance: 3.9054% / 0.03905362
73.2 Mediterranean_Islander
26.8 Atlantic_Islander

[Defcon2]

Maybe I should change "Atlantic_Islander" and rename with "NorthAtlantic_Islander"?

I thought in adding a Canarian reference as Atlantic , but we have only one reference, and I want to make averages/means for all the references in sources.

If we had an Açores or Madeira reference it would be ok, but mixing Cabo Verde and Canarias it´s ridiculous. Isn´t it?

I would not add the Canary Islands, that would inflate the Atlantic percentage in the Iberians.

[gixajo]

I would not add the Canary Islands, that would inflate the Atlantic percentage in the Iberians.

That effect would affect SouthWestern Iberians as you?:p

[alnortedelsur]

Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 6.8598% / 0.06859816
65.6 Mediterranean_Islander
34.4 NorthAtlantic_Islander

Distance to: Alnortedelsur_scaled
0.08212946 Mediterranean_Islander:Center
0.08953112 Mediterranean_Islander:West
0.11019937 NorthAtlantic_Islander
0.11129938 Mediterranean_Islander:East

[Defcon2]

That effect would affect SouthWestern Iberians as you?:p

Target: Juan_scaled
Distance: 3.0511% / 0.03051117
51.0 Spanish_Canarias
31.8 Mediterranean_Islander
17.2 Atlantic_Islander

[Rocinante]

0.05077773 Mediterranean_Islander:West
0.06040158 Mediterranean_Islander:Center
0.09134493 Mediterranean_Islander:East
0.09379787 NorthAtlantic_Islander

Distance: 3.3916% / 0.03391585
74.0 Mediterranean_Islander
26.0 NorthAtlantic_Islander

[Seya]

https://i.imgur.com/N8pKf2q.jpg

it probably make more sense if you take them separately :) huge difference between french corsica and sardinia

[calxpal]

Target: cpalscaled
Distance: 3.6636% / 0.03663564
82.6 NorthAtlantic_Islander
17.4 Mediterranean_Islander:Center

Distance to: cpalscaled
0.04324583 NorthAtlantic_Islander
0.09976545 Mediterranean_Islander:West
0.11444902 Mediterranean_Islander:Center
0.13934754 Mediterranean_Islander:East

[gixajo]

https://i.imgur.com/N8pKf2q.jpg

it probably make more sense if you take them separately :) huge difference between french corsica and sardinia

It would make much more sense undoubtely even not to make any mean and put directly the references that are in the datasheet, but this is not the point.

I know that Baleares and Corsica are closer between them and that Corsica it´s quite an outlier "outlier" comparing to those two. A mean between Baleares and Sardinia solely would be better.:thumb001:

But even knowing this, I think that by adding Sardinia to the mean, it is possible to represent a wider group of people in a single reference, although the distances of the total result increase.

And that is what I do with all these references made with averages and with these models with only 4 references, covering large groups of the population giving them an adequate result, although for that I sacrifice "something" the distance.

Anyway, I don't think that according to your ancestry, changing a western Mediterranean sample will affect much at your distances.

Anyway I will do that reference.:)

And I think that goal is aproximately met, don't you think so?

[gixajo]

https://i.imgur.com/N8pKf2q.jpg

it probably make more sense if you take them separately :) huge difference between french corsica and sardinia

Mediterranean_Islander:WestB,=French_Corsica,+Span ish_Baleares,


Mediterranean_Islander:WestB,0.118214,0.149368,0.0 30067,-0.012901,0.037882,-0.006136,-0.001197,0.000951,0.017465,0.031536,-0.002575,0.007702,-0.014123,-0.009861,-0.000301,0.000829,0.003021,0.001153,0.001791,-0.003712,0.000075,0.000433,-0.000674,-0.000533,-0.002321

[Seya]

It would make much more sense undoubtely even not to make any mean and put directly the references that are in the datasheet, but this is not the point.

I know that Baleares and Corsica are closer between them and that Corsica it´s quite an outlier "outlier" comparing to those two. A mean between Baleares and Sardinia solely would be better.:thumb001:

But even knowing this, I think that by adding Sardinia to the mean, it is possible to represent a wider group of people in a single reference, although the distances of the total result increase.

And that is what I do with all these references made with averages and with these models with only 4 references, covering large groups of the population giving them an adequate result, although for that I sacrifice "something" the distance.

Anyway, I don't think that according to your ancestry, changing a western Mediterranean sample will affect much at your distances.

Anyway I will do that reference.:)

And I think that goal is aproximately met, don't you think so?

i imagine the sardinian sample can switch the places between west med and atlanto-med for many people :D or it can make them look closer to central med instead of west med :P

[gixajo]

So I was wrong, distances are quite worse in average, for me and my mother are worse although my father distance is better.

https://i.imgur.com/pMFz25E.png

[gixajo]

If I use both Western Mediterranean references.

https://i.imgur.com/DuwV1lN.png

To work better, the model with 2 western references should have also Sardinian, and that was what I didn´t want, to use a reference directly from datasheet.

Maybe now what I did initially is better understood.

[RyoHazuki]

Target: Ryo_scaled
Distance: 3.0618% / 0.03061828
89.8 NorthAtlantic_Islander
10.2 Mediterranean_Islander:Center

First time I get Sicilians over Iberians

[gixajo]

Target: Ryo_scaled


First time I get Sicilians over Iberians

There is always a first time for all.

There is no "Iberian" reference.:D

Distance to: Mediterranean_Islander:West
0.02477914 French_Corsica
0.03489983 Spanish_Menorca
0.03549028 Italian_Bergamo
0.03727405 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.03733254 Italian_Lombardy

Distance to: Mediterranean_Islander:WestB
0.01539534 Italian_Bergamo
0.01731519 French_Corsica
0.01731576 Spanish_Baleares
0.01795166 Spanish_Menorca
0.01895333 Italian_Veneto

Distance to: Mediterranean_Islander:Center
0.01045982 Sicilian_East
0.01088005 Sicilian_West
0.01283234 Maltese
0.01686407 Italian_Campania
0.01795147 Italian_Apulia

[RyoHazuki]

There is always a first time for all.

There is no "Iberian" reference.:D

That's right, the "West Islanders" I mean.

[Rgvgjhvv]

Distance: 3.7012351403075785%

Mediterranean_Islander: 100.0%

[gixajo]

Distance: 3.7012351403075785%

Mediterranean_Islander: 100.0%

The reading of the result is, (despite the distance somewhat large): SouthEastern European.:D

[Rgvgjhvv]

The reading of the result is, (despite the distance somewhat large): SouthEastern European.:D

Not the tightest fit in the world but decent and accurate nonetheless!

[gixajo]

Not the tightest fit in the world but decent and accurate nonetheless!


I can't do miracles with only 4 references.:rolleyes:

[Damião de Góis]

Target: Gil_Vicente
Distance: 3.0436% / 0.03043562
62.8 Mediterranean_Islander
37.2 NorthAtlantic_Islander

[celticdragongod]

Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.01661982 NorthAtlantic_Islander
0.11336056 Mediterranean_Islander:West
0.13223593 Mediterranean_Islander:Center
0.15981058 Mediterranean_Islander:East

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 1.6618% / 0.01661844
99.8 NorthAtlantic_Islander
0.2 Mediterranean_Islander

[gixajo]

.....r

The Irish never disappoint with these models.:thumb001:

[JamesBond007]

Target: Kevin_scaled
Distance: 3.1454% / 0.03145424
96.6 NorthAtlantic_Islander
3.4 Mediterranean_Islander


Distance to: Kevin_scaled
0.03168032 NorthAtlantic_Islander
0.11283210 Mediterranean_Islander:West
0.13262232 Mediterranean_Islander:Center
0.15850407 Mediterranean_Islander:East

[Coastal Elite]

Target: DacoCeltic_scaled
Distance: 2.1035% / 0.02103546
72.0 NorthAtlantic_Islander
28.0 Mediterranean_Islander

NON-AGG
Target: DacoCeltic_scaled
Distance: 2.1035% / 0.02103546
72.0 NorthAtlantic_Islander
21.4 Mediterranean_Islander:East
6.6 Mediterranean_Islander:West

Distance to: DacoCeltic_scaled
0.04546360 NorthAtlantic_Islander
0.08230332 Mediterranean_Islander:West
0.09587034 Mediterranean_Islander:Center
0.12079463 Mediterranean_Islander:East

[oszkar07]

Target: Oszkar
Distance: 3.5686% / 0.03568641
86.6 NorthAtlantic_Islander
13.4 Mediterranean_Islander:Center

Target: Oszkar
Distance: 3.5686% / 0.03568641 | ADC: 0.25x RC
86.6 NorthAtlantic_Islander
13.4 Mediterranean_Islander:Center

[Grace O'Malley]

The Irish never disappoint with these models.:thumb001:

When I look at the samples I can most of the time predict what I will get.

Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 1.8669% / 0.01866933
100.0 NorthAtlantic_Islander

[Coastal Elite]

When I look at the samples I can most of the time predict what I will get.

Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 1.8669% / 0.01866933
100.0 NorthAtlantic_Islander

Your partner in crime

Target: Daco_mom_scaled
Distance: 1.7485% / 0.01748471
100.0 NorthAtlantic_Islander

[Grace O'Malley]

Your partner in crime

Target: Daco_mom_scaled
Distance: 1.7485% / 0.01748471
100.0 NorthAtlantic_Islander

We are practically family. :) Not surprising as we both descend from Munster Irish. :thumb001:

[Beowulf]

Target: IvorixG25
Distance: 2.4519% / 0.01451850
62.2 Mediterranean_Islander
37.8 NorthAtlantic_Islander

[JerryS.]

Target: JerryS_scaled
Distance: 1.9019% / 0.01901909
87.0 NorthAtlantic_Islander
13.0 Mediterranean_Islander

[Eurafricanid]

Target: Jgab602_scaled
Distance: 0.9868% / 0.00986798
47.2 Western_African
36.8 Mediterranean_Islander
13.2 NorthAtlantic_Islander
2.8 Native_Brazilian



Target: Jgab602_scaled
Distance: 0.9868% / 0.00986798
47.2 Western_African
31.0 Mediterranean_Islander:West
13.2 NorthAtlantic_Islander
5.8 Mediterranean_Islander:East
2.8 Native_Brazilian


This model fits me like a glove! :thumb001:

[Dušan]

With added Slavic samples for better fit


Target: Dušan_g25
Distance: 1.5885% / 0.01588453
64.4 Slavic
35.6 Mediterranean_Islander


Target: Dušan_g25
Distance: 1.5885% / 0.01588453
49.2 Slavic:RUS_Sunghir_MA:Sunghir6
19.2 Mediterranean_Islander:East
16.4 Mediterranean_Islander:West
15.2 Slavic: POL_Cedynia_VA:VK212

[Rafael Passoni]

Target: Rafael_scaled
Distance: 2.7103% / 0.02710346
86.4 Mediterranean_Islander
13.6 NorthAtlantic_Islander

Distance to: Rafael_scaled
0.03815458 Mediterranean_Islander:West
0.05435128 Mediterranean_Islander:Center
0.07849320 Mediterranean_Islander:East
0.10771310 NorthAtlantic_Islander

[cass]

With added Slavic samples for better fit


Target: Dušan_g25
Distance: 1.5885% / 0.01588453
64.4 Slavic
35.6 Mediterranean_Islander


Target: Dušan_g25
Distance: 1.5885% / 0.01588453
49.2 Slavic:RUS_Sunghir_MA:Sunghir6
19.2 Mediterranean_Islander:East
16.4 Mediterranean_Islander:West
15.2 Slavic: POL_Cedynia_VA:VK212

Target: sample
Distance: 4.6469% / 0.04646903
98.4 NorthAtlantic_Islander
1.6 Mediterranean_Islander:Center

With added Slavic samples

Target: sample
Distance: 1.3048% / 0.01304790
55.8 Slavic
41.6 NorthAtlantic_Islander
2.6 Mediterranean_Islander

Target: sample
Distance: 1.3048% / 0.01304790
41.6 NorthAtlantic_Islander
31.4 Slavic:RUS_Sunghir_MA
24.4 Slavic:VK2020_POL_Cedynia_VA:VK212___AD_1042___Cov erage_28.14%
2.6 Mediterranean_Islander:East