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RyoHazuki
10-10-2020, 01:31 AM
Scaled


Goth:DEU_MA,0.1223596,0.1303939,0.061169,0.048773, 0.039792,0.0199408,0.010975,0.0052151,0.0013295,-0.0024966,-0.003735,0.001109,-0.0091576,-0.0038398,0.0161643,-0.0008352,-0.0133511,0.0032684,0.0041354,0.0040271,0.0060019, 0.0037342,-0.0007273,0.011146,-0.0004429
Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial,0.1039821,0.1495156,-0.0235307,-0.0574065,0.0045265,-0.0204055,-0.0011946,-0.0051488,0.0006604,0.0196549,0.0034575,0.0025539,-0.0040602,-0.0014737,-0.0081715,-0.0014474,0.0035992,0.000454,0.0012178,-0.0032854,-0.0025579,0.0020454,-0.0006985,-0.0004845,0.0004141
Roman:ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity,0.1130169,0.148775,0 .0057355,-0.0298371,0.0238762,-0.012399,-0.0004504,-0.0026633,0.006792,0.0239033,0.0014005,0.0050268,-0.0083498,-0.003108,-0.0045523,-0.0004917,0.0042865,0.0005385,0.0032735,-0.0014902,-0.000993,0.0016075,-0.0009192,0.0002611,-0.0012474
Roman:ITA_Rome_Latini_IA,0.127482,0.147252,0.03318 7,-0.016796,0.044008,-0.008646,-0.00376,-0.004846,0.026588,0.052666,-0.002761,0.015137,-0.036719,-0.008533,-0.009093,0.013392,0.016037,-0.004687,0.003897,0.004127,0.00262,-0.00272,0.001972,-0.007712,-0.008742
Berber:Canary_Islands_Guanche,-0.0393828,0.1314096,-0.0023384,-0.0687344,0.0337292,-0.0363672,-0.0299874,0.008261,0.0708878,0.0305428,0.0075674,-0.0059948,0.0182554,-0.0176982,0.0232082,-0.0130468,0.0031814,-0.019206,-0.044321,0.010405,-0.0134762,-0.0377142,0.0232692,-0.0011806,0.0046224
Iberian:Northeast_c.6-8CE_ES,0.118376,0.1457285,0.0446885,0.013566,0.044 6235,-0.000139,0.0005875,0.007615,0.024441,0.0266065,-0.0080385,0.008917,-0.0064665,-0.006675,0.012079,0.002055,-0.008279,0.004371,-0.000754,0.0027515,-0.0004995,-0.0009275,-0.0056695,0.00241,-0.0022755
Iberian:Northeast_c.8-12CE,0.1141078,0.1454745,0.033941,-0.0063792,0.0375455,-0.001046,0.0001175,0.0031728,0.0259233,0.033076,-0.0032475,0.003859,-0.0118182,-0.0116978,0.0027482,-0.0012927,6.5e-05,-0.0040538,-0.00088,-0.0025325,0.004336,0.000371,-0.0001847,-0.0011747,-0.0003592
Punic:Levant_LBN_Roman,0.0887823,0.1447132,-0.0554368,-0.085595,-0.0116175,-0.0282378,-0.0074612,-0.0076152,0.0076698,0.0121642,0.0031262,-0.01139,0.0130822,-0.0017893,-0.0105862,0.0093475,0.002673,-0.0006652,0.0025138,0.0022512,0.000655,0.0059042,-0.0035742,0.0001205,-0.005299
Celt:England_Roman,0.127482,0.1368064,0.0595853,0. 0494651,0.0371496,0.0170523,0.0036593,0.0052416,0. 0030094,0.0031503,-0.0053821,0.007108,-0.0142077,-0.0127597,0.0219673,0.0017616,-0.0083819,0.0011221,0.0039503,0.0038054,0.0052586, 0.0016606,-0.0035037,0.0071954,-0.0002394

RyoHazuki
10-10-2020, 01:33 AM
Target: Ryo_scaled
Distance: 2.7137% / 0.02713725 | ADC: 0.25x RC
74.4 Goth: DEU_MA
24.6 Iberian:Northeast_c.6-8CE_ES
1.0 Celt:England_Roman

Cristiano viejo
10-10-2020, 01:46 AM
Why are you so interested on Iberians? You don't stop of creating threads about us :blink:
Are you partly Iberian per chance?

Coastal Elite
10-10-2020, 01:50 AM
Target: DacoCeltic_scaled
Distance: 2.2270% / 0.02226986
40.0 Goth
30.2 Celt
29.8 Roman

Target: DacoCeltic_scaled
Distance: 2.2584% / 0.02258423 | ADC: 0.25x
37.0 Celt
33.2 Roman
29.8 Goth

Distance to: DacoCeltic_scaled
0.04327927 Celt:England_Roman
0.04631012 Goth: DEU_MA
0.04766492 Iberian:Northeast_c.6-8CE_ES
0.05742393 Iberian:Northeast_c.8-12CE
0.07804943 Roman:ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity
0.08358008 Roman:ITA_Rome_Latini_IA
0.11999172 Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial
0.16942856 Punic:Levant_LBN_Roman
0.23768805 Berber:Canary_Islands_Guanche

dududud
10-10-2020, 01:50 AM
Half Venetian and Half SouthWestern France (from Tarn, in the non-basque area of SouthWestern France):
40.6 Roman
31.0 Iberian
28.4 Celt


My results:
49.6 Iberian
27.4 Roman
23.0 Goth


Father:
52.4 Celt
38.2 Iberian
9.4 Goth

Mother:
55.8 Iberian
44.2 Roman

RyoHazuki
10-10-2020, 02:13 AM
Why are you so interested on Iberians? You don't stop of creating threads about us :blink:
Are you partly Iberian per chance?

It might seem that way because I just made thread about them yesterday, but I've only made a few on them in total. I'm not of Spanish/Catalan/Portuguese heritage.

alnortedelsur
10-10-2020, 02:27 AM
Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 5.1733% / 0.05173340
34.0 Goth
27.2 Berber
24.6 Roman
14.2 Celt

Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 5.2341% / 0.05234110 | ADC: 0.25x RC
27.4 Berber
26.8 Roman
23.4 Celt
22.4 Goth


Distance to: Alnortedelsur_scaled
0.07261665 Iberian:Northeast_c.8-12CE
0.08101701 Iberian:Northeast_c.6-8CE_ES
0.08232138 Roman:ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity
0.09907399 Roman:ITA_Rome_Latini_IA
0.10507810 Celt:England_Roman
0.10567864 Goth:DEU_MA
0.10774459 Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial
0.14578795 Punic:Levant_LBN_Roman
0.17096520 Berber:Canary_Islands_Guanche

calxpal
10-10-2020, 02:37 AM
Target: cpalscaled
Distance: 3.5951% / 0.03595106
68.8 Goth:DEU_MA
16.6 Roman:ITA_Rome_Latini_IA
10.6 Celt:England_Roman
4.0 Punic:Levant_LBN_Roman

Distance to: cpalscaled
0.04393181 Celt:England_Roman
0.04450023 Goth:DEU_MA
0.06034776 Iberian:Northeast_c.6-8CE_ES
0.07348314 Iberian:Northeast_c.8-12CE
0.09750335 Roman:ITA_Rome_Latini_IA
0.09765409 Roman:ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity
0.13896255 Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial
0.18489114 Punic:Levant_LBN_Roman
0.24150327 Berber:Canary_Islands_Guanche

mitalit
10-10-2020, 11:52 AM
Target: Xabier_scaled
Distance: 2.1359% / 0.02135857
38.4 Celt
38.2 Celt:England_Roman
28.0 Iberian:Northeast_c.8-12CE
25.8 Roman:ITA_Rome_Latini_IA
6.8 Berber:Canary_Islands_Guanche
1.2 Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial

Target: Xabier_scaled
Distance: 2.2386% / 0.02238625 | ADC: 0.25x
58.0 Iberian
58.0 Iberian:Northeast_c.8-12CE
27.4 Celt:England_Roman
12.0 Roman:ITA_Rome_Latini_IA
2.6 Berber:Canary_Islands_Guanche

Distance to: Xabier_scaled
0.03046468 Iberian:Northeast_c.8-12CE
0.03543537 Iberian:Northeast_c.6-8CE_ES
0.05920815 Roman:ITA_Rome_Latini_IA
0.06456628 Roman:ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity
0.06628058 Celt:England_Roman
0.07306177 Goth:DEU_MA
0.10826202 Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial
0.15786609 Punic:Levant_LBN_Roman
0.20587699 Berber:Canary_Islands_Guanche

Grace O'Malley
10-10-2020, 12:06 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9ffXnJQ0xE

Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 2.1079% / 0.02107911
100.0 Celt:England_Roman

Defcon2
10-10-2020, 12:09 PM
Target: Juan_scaled
Distance: 3.0132% / 0.03013172
78.4 Iberian
8.6 Berber
7.8 Goth
5.2 Roman

Rocinante
10-10-2020, 12:15 PM
Distance: 2.4316% / 0.02431583 | ADC: 0.25x RC
48.0 Roman
14.4 Iberian
13.6 Celt
12.8 Berber
11.2 Goth

J. Ketch
10-10-2020, 12:34 PM
Target: Creoda_scaled
Distance: 2.0646% / 0.02064623
71.0 Celt
29.0 Goth

gixajo
10-10-2020, 12:58 PM
Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 1.6230% / 0.01623014 | ADC: 0.25x RC
80.6 Iberian
19.4 Roman

Target: gixajo_dad_scaled
Distance: 2.0214% / 0.02021401 | ADC: 0.25x RC
58.6 Iberian
34.6 Roman
6.8 Berber

Target: gixajo_mom_scaled
Distance: 2.3444% / 0.02344352 | ADC: 0.25x RC
100.0 Iberian

gixajo
10-10-2020, 01:42 PM
Half Venetian and Half SouthWestern France (from Tarn, in the non-basque area of SouthWestern France):

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I don´t understand why you posted the results of a Half venetia/half SouthWestern french, is he related with you or your family?

It´s interesting see distances too.(I mean distance of the result)

dududud
10-10-2020, 06:09 PM
I don´t understand why you posted the results of a Half venetia/half SouthWestern french, is he related with you or your family?

It´s interesting see distances too.(I mean distance of the result)

It's a close friend. And he's close to me, genetically speaking (on the PCA also).

Friend results
0.02481749 Iberian:Northeast_c.8-12CE
0.03178636 Iberian:Northeast_c.6-8CE_ES
0.05304440 Roman:ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity
0.05430204 Roman:ITA_Rome_Latini_IA
0.06765702 Celt:England_Roman
0.07350593 Goth:DEU_MA
0.09892861 Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial
0.15033197 Punic:Levant_LBN_Roman
0.21682267 Berber:Canary_Islands_Guanche

Cernunnos
10-10-2020, 06:17 PM
Target: Cernunnos_scaled
Distance: 1.8727% / 0.01872708
79.0 Iberian
11.0 Roman
7.0 Berber
3.0 Celt

Damião de Góis
10-10-2020, 06:54 PM
Target: Gil_Vicente
Distance: 2.3090% / 0.02308953
57.8 Iberian
22.2 Celt
10.8 Roman
9.2 Berber

Cristiano viejo
10-10-2020, 09:38 PM
It might seem that way because I just made thread about them yesterday, but I've only made a few on them in total. I'm not of Spanish/Catalan/Portuguese heritage.

Ok but Catalans are Spanish, at least the last time I checked.

celticdragongod
10-10-2020, 10:07 PM
Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.02151548 Celt:England_Roman
0.02427956 Goth:DEU_MA
0.06373480 Iberian:Northeast_c.6-8CE_ES
0.08593973 Iberian:Northeast_c.8-12CE
0.11331547 Roman:ITA_Rome_Latini_IA
0.11632463 Roman:ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity
0.15854592 Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial
0.20626737 Punic:Levant_LBN_Roman
0.25439868 Berber:Canary_Islands_Guanche

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 2.0314% / 0.02031378 | ADC: 0.25x RC
65.2 Celt:England_Roman
34.8 Goth:DEU_MA


Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 2.0314% / 0.02031378
65.2 Celt:England_Roman
34.8 Goth:DEU_MA

celticdragongod
10-10-2020, 10:08 PM
Ok but Catalans are Spanish, at least the last time I checked.

Some Catalans might disagree with you.

Cristiano viejo
10-10-2020, 10:11 PM
Some Catalans might disagree with you.

Most don't do.

zebruh
10-10-2020, 10:14 PM
Most don't do.Enough seemed to but spain beat them up and they had no backbones to secure their independence.

Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
10-10-2020, 10:15 PM
Target: Viriato_scaled
Distance: 2.2596% / 0.02259592
85.8 Iberian
7.2 Berber
3.6 Celt
3.4 Roman

Distance to: Viriato_scaled
0.02739451 Iberian:Northeast_c.8-12CE
0.03630377 Iberian:Northeast_c.6-8CE_ES
0.05785317 Roman:ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity
0.06488556 Roman:ITA_Rome_Latini_IA
0.08123137 Celt:England_Roman
0.08529823 Goth:DEU_MA
0.09873539 Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial
0.14756624 Punic:Levant_LBN_Roman
0.19113168 Berber:Canary_Islands_Guanche

Cristiano viejo
10-10-2020, 10:26 PM
Enough seemed to but spain beat them up and they had no backbones to secure their independence.

I could not care less about the wishes of independentists.

RyoHazuki
10-10-2020, 10:43 PM
Using my AncestryDNA coordinates I get better distance

Target: RyoAncestry_scaled
Distance: 2.0397% / 0.02039669 | ADC: 0.25x RC
53.8 Goth
26.0 Celt
20.2 Iberian
0.0 Berber
0.0 Punic
0.0 Roman

gixajo
10-10-2020, 10:56 PM
Using this calculator with OP sources(Adam medium-penalty=0):

https://yk.github.io/ancestry/

Me

Distance: 1.6133914726857317%

Iberian: 78.2%
Roman: 20.8%
Berber: 1.0%
Other: 0.0%

My father.

Distance: 2.021681584768333%

Iberian: 58.8%
Roman: 34.4%
Berber: 6.8%
Other: 0.0%

My mother.

Distance: 2.344528704663795%

Iberian: 99.8%
Celt: 0.2%
Other: 0.0%

gixajo
10-10-2020, 11:08 PM
I didn´t post vahaduo´s ADD DIST COL:NO results.

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 1.6128% / 0.01612796
78.2 Iberian
20.8 Roman
1.0 Berber
0.0 Celt
0.0 Goth
0.0 Punic

Target: gixajo_dad_scaled
Distance: 2.0214% / 0.02021401
58.6 Iberian
34.6 Roman
6.8 Berber
0.0 Celt
0.0 Goth
0.0 Punic

Target: gixajo_mom_scaled
Distance: 2.3433% / 0.02343323
98.6 Iberian
1.4 Celt
0.0 Berber
0.0 Goth
0.0 Punic
0.0 Roman

gixajo
10-10-2020, 11:12 PM
If I remove Roman samples:

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 1.8571% / 0.01857057
100.0 Iberian
0.0 Berber
0.0 Celt
0.0 Goth
0.0 Punic

Target: gixajo_dad_scaled
Distance: 2.3410% / 0.02341015
95.6 Iberian
4.4 Berber
0.0 Celt
0.0 Goth
0.0 Punic


Target: gixajo_mom_scaled
Distance: 2.3433% / 0.02343323
98.6 Iberian
1.4 Celt
0.0 Berber
0.0 Goth
0.0 Punic

My mother results remain the same.:eek:

gixajo
10-10-2020, 11:16 PM
And without Berber sample:


Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 1.8571% / 0.01857057
100.0 Iberian
0.0 Celt
0.0 Goth
0.0 Punic


Target: gixajo_dad_scaled
Distance: 2.4754% / 0.02475425
99.2 Iberian
0.8 Punic
0.0 Celt
0.0 Goth


Target: gixajo_mom_scaled
Distance: 2.3433% / 0.02343323
98.6 Iberian
1.4 Celt
0.0 Goth
0.0 Punic


Without Punic sample:

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 1.8571% / 0.01857057
100.0 Iberian
0.0 Celt
0.0 Goth


Target: gixajo_dad_scaled
Distance: 2.4771% / 0.02477087
100.0 Iberian
0.0 Celt
0.0 Goth


Target: gixajo_mom_scaled
Distance: 2.3433% / 0.02343323
98.6 Iberian
1.4 Celt
0.0 Goth

Without Celt sample...


Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 1.8571% / 0.01857057
100.0 Iberian
0.0 Goth


Target: gixajo_dad_scaled
Distance: 2.4771% / 0.02477087
100.0 Iberian
0.0 Goth


Target: gixajo_mom_scaled
Distance: 2.3444% / 0.02344352
100.0 Iberian
0.0 Goth

:)

Cernunnos
10-10-2020, 11:49 PM
Most don't do.

"Most". Most Pro Spain Catalans are of mixed/full Andalusian/other Spaniard ancestry like most of Ciudadanos electors. Most full Catalans (or People with two catalan surnames) are pro independence, the pro independence catalan parties always have their best results in the inland regions and outside Barcelona where there are more "pure" Catalans.

Ethel
10-10-2020, 11:57 PM
"Most". Most Pro Spain Catalans are of mixed/full Andalusian/other Spaniard ancestry like most of Ciudadanos electors. Most full Catalans (or People with two catalan surnames) are pro independence, the pro independence catalan parties always have their best results in the inland regions and outside Barcelona where there are more "pure" Catalans.

Standard Catalan language is often grouped with Occitanian and even has more lexical similarity with Italian than with Castillian, their neighbors' language :lol:

gixajo
10-11-2020, 12:09 AM
"Most". Most Pro Spain Catalans are of mixed/full Andalusian/other Spaniard ancestry like most of Ciudadanos electors. Most full Catalans (or People with two catalan surnames) are pro independence, the pro independence catalan parties always have their best results in the inland regions and outside Barcelona where there are more "pure" Catalans.

The Catalan nationalist parties(specially right wing Catalan nationalist parties) always put people with surnames from the region, in the Basque country exactly the same thing happens, so that no one doubts about their "purity".

Very occasionally they will put someone clearly mixed, or with all their ancestors from outside to make it clear that they are not "xenophobic".

Among the most extremist Catalan independentists you will always find those who has the less Catalan ancestry.They have to be forgiven their ancestors from outside that region, becoming the most extreme defenders of their new nationality.

Catalonia has nothing to do with Portugal, I understand you like to compare with them, but that case has nothing to do with you.

If we had a constitution like yours since 1978, we would not have the problems of separatism that we have.

gixajo
10-11-2020, 12:09 AM
Standard Catalan language is often grouped with Occitanian and even has more lexical similarity with Italian than with Castillian, their neighbors' language :lol:

Nope.

Cristiano viejo
10-11-2020, 12:22 AM
"Most". Most Pro Spain Catalans are of mixed/full Andalusian/other Spaniard ancestry like most of Ciudadanos electors. Most full Catalans (or People with two catalan surnames) are pro independence, the pro independence catalan parties always have their best results in the inland regions and outside Barcelona where there are more "pure" Catalans.

Don't talk about things you don't know. Pure Catalans barely exist and the list of charnego separatist politicians ( i.e., Catalan people with non Catalan ancestry ) is INFINITE. Just nowadays their main leaders are charnegos, in one or other degree (Carles Puigdemont, Gabriel Rufián, Toni Comín, Jordi Cuixart, Jordi Sánchez, raúl Romeva, Xavier Sala i Martín, Anna Gabriel, Oriol Junqueras, Ada Colau, Josep Lluis Trapero, etc etc etccccc).

Many of the former separatist leaders from the last decades also were charnegos, Josep Lluis Carod-Rovira, José Montilla, etc.

RyoHazuki
10-11-2020, 12:36 AM
Standard Catalan language is often grouped with Occitanian and even has more lexical similarity with Italian than with Castillian, their neighbors' language :lol:

It's grouped with Occitan because it's directly related to the (sadly dying) langue d'oc dialects. But it's not closer to Italian in lexically, maybe the Italian langue d'oc variants but not standard Italian or the Italo-Dalmatian proper tongues.

Ethel
10-11-2020, 12:41 AM
Nope.


It's grouped with Occitan because it's directly related to the (sadly dying) langue d'oc dialects. But it's not closer to Italian in lexically, maybe the Italian langue d'oc variants but not standard Italian or the Italo-Dalmatian proper tongues.

Can you guys elaborate it further? I already knew that Catalan was often put inside the Gallo-Romance group with Occitan, Arpitan and Northern Italian langs, but it seems that it also does have a slightly higher lexical similarity with standard Italian than with Castillian or Portuguese, at least according to Ethnologue:


However, despite being spoken mostly on the Iberian Peninsula, Catalan has marked differences with the Iberian Romance group (Spanish and Portuguese) in terms of pronunciation, grammar, and especially vocabulary; showing instead its closest affinity with languages native to France and northern Italy, particularly Occitan and to a lesser extent Gallo-Romance (Franco-Provençal, French, Gallo-Italian).


According to Ethnologue, the lexical similarity between Catalan and other Romance languages is: 87% with Italian; 85% with Portuguese and Spanish; 76% with Ladin; 75% with Sardinian; and 73% with Romanian.

RyoHazuki
10-11-2020, 01:11 AM
Can you guys elaborate it further? I already knew that Catalan was often put inside the Gallo-Romance group with Occitan, Arpitan and Northern Italian langs, but it seems that it also does have a slightly higher lexical similarity with standard Italian than with Castillian or Portuguese, at least according to Ethnologue:

In vocabulary you might find more cognates with not only other Gallo-Romance languages but also Italo-Dalmatian ones. Castillian also contains more foreign loanwords so it further diverges the two. But as far as informal speech though, I'm not a speaker of Catalan so I can't say how lexically similar Catalan is between Iberian Romance and Italo-Dalmatian from a commoner's standpoint.

Ethel
10-11-2020, 01:25 AM
In vocabulary you might find more cognates with not only other Gallo-Romance languages but also Italo-Dalmatian ones. Castillian also contains more foreign loanwords so it further diverges the two. But as far as informal speech though, I'm not a speaker of Catalan so I can't say how lexically similar Catalan is between Iberian Romance and Italo-Dalmatian from a commoner's standpoint.

This study by Ethnologue only includes standard languages, I'm pretty sure Catalan would be lexically more similar to Aragonese than to Italo-Dalmatian languages or at least at the very middle of it. There's also many dialects of Catalan such as Valencian, its lexical similarity to other languages would also differ from the standard version levels.

Damião de Góis
10-11-2020, 01:27 AM
Catalonia has nothing to do with Portugal, I understand you like to compare with them, but that case has nothing to do with you.


I don't. When do the comparisons between a state with almost 900 years of history and an autonomous region with almost 90 years start?

Luso
10-11-2020, 03:37 AM
Target: Luso_scaled
Distance: 2.4403% / 0.02440281
72.2 Iberian
16.4 Goth
11.4 Berber


Distance to: Luso_scaled
0.03201049 Iberian:Northeast_c.8-12CE
0.04316083 Iberian:Northeast_c.6-8CE_ES
0.06433296 Roman:ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity
0.07040363 Roman:ITA_Rome_Latini_IA
0.08432281 Celt:England_Roman
0.08665732 Goth:DEU_MA
0.10352171 Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial
0.15028103 Punic:Levant_LBN_Roman
0.18492961 Berber:Canary_Islands_Guanche

Defcon2
10-11-2020, 08:02 AM
"Most". Most Pro Spain Catalans are of mixed/full Andalusian/other Spaniard ancestry like most of Ciudadanos electors. Most full Catalans (or People with two catalan surnames) are pro independence, the pro independence catalan parties always have their best results in the inland regions and outside Barcelona where there are more "pure" Catalans.

You did not say that secessionist support is stronger in families with higher economic incomes including origin, which often correlate, that is, if a person has 4 Catalan grandparents, they are more likely to be richer than another person of Andalusian origin and the same time is more likely to want independence.

https://elpais.com/politica/2017/09/28/ratio/1506601198_808440.html

http://agendapublica.elpais.com/la-pela-es-la-pela-renta-clase-social-y-secesionismo/

JamesBond007
10-11-2020, 08:12 AM
Scaled


Goth:DEU_MA,0.1223596,0.1303939,0.061169,0.048773, 0.039792,0.0199408,0.010975,0.0052151,0.0013295,-0.0024966,-0.003735,0.001109,-0.0091576,-0.0038398,0.0161643,-0.0008352,-0.0133511,0.0032684,0.0041354,0.0040271,0.0060019, 0.0037342,-0.0007273,0.011146,-0.0004429
Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial,0.1039821,0.1495156,-0.0235307,-0.0574065,0.0045265,-0.0204055,-0.0011946,-0.0051488,0.0006604,0.0196549,0.0034575,0.0025539,-0.0040602,-0.0014737,-0.0081715,-0.0014474,0.0035992,0.000454,0.0012178,-0.0032854,-0.0025579,0.0020454,-0.0006985,-0.0004845,0.0004141
Roman:ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity,0.1130169,0.148775,0 .0057355,-0.0298371,0.0238762,-0.012399,-0.0004504,-0.0026633,0.006792,0.0239033,0.0014005,0.0050268,-0.0083498,-0.003108,-0.0045523,-0.0004917,0.0042865,0.0005385,0.0032735,-0.0014902,-0.000993,0.0016075,-0.0009192,0.0002611,-0.0012474
Roman:ITA_Rome_Latini_IA,0.127482,0.147252,0.03318 7,-0.016796,0.044008,-0.008646,-0.00376,-0.004846,0.026588,0.052666,-0.002761,0.015137,-0.036719,-0.008533,-0.009093,0.013392,0.016037,-0.004687,0.003897,0.004127,0.00262,-0.00272,0.001972,-0.007712,-0.008742
Berber:Canary_Islands_Guanche,-0.0393828,0.1314096,-0.0023384,-0.0687344,0.0337292,-0.0363672,-0.0299874,0.008261,0.0708878,0.0305428,0.0075674,-0.0059948,0.0182554,-0.0176982,0.0232082,-0.0130468,0.0031814,-0.019206,-0.044321,0.010405,-0.0134762,-0.0377142,0.0232692,-0.0011806,0.0046224
Iberian:Northeast_c.6-8CE_ES,0.118376,0.1457285,0.0446885,0.013566,0.044 6235,-0.000139,0.0005875,0.007615,0.024441,0.0266065,-0.0080385,0.008917,-0.0064665,-0.006675,0.012079,0.002055,-0.008279,0.004371,-0.000754,0.0027515,-0.0004995,-0.0009275,-0.0056695,0.00241,-0.0022755
Iberian:Northeast_c.8-12CE,0.1141078,0.1454745,0.033941,-0.0063792,0.0375455,-0.001046,0.0001175,0.0031728,0.0259233,0.033076,-0.0032475,0.003859,-0.0118182,-0.0116978,0.0027482,-0.0012927,6.5e-05,-0.0040538,-0.00088,-0.0025325,0.004336,0.000371,-0.0001847,-0.0011747,-0.0003592
Punic:Levant_LBN_Roman,0.0887823,0.1447132,-0.0554368,-0.085595,-0.0116175,-0.0282378,-0.0074612,-0.0076152,0.0076698,0.0121642,0.0031262,-0.01139,0.0130822,-0.0017893,-0.0105862,0.0093475,0.002673,-0.0006652,0.0025138,0.0022512,0.000655,0.0059042,-0.0035742,0.0001205,-0.005299
Celt:England_Roman,0.127482,0.1368064,0.0595853,0. 0494651,0.0371496,0.0170523,0.0036593,0.0052416,0. 0030094,0.0031503,-0.0053821,0.007108,-0.0142077,-0.0127597,0.0219673,0.0017616,-0.0083819,0.0011221,0.0039503,0.0038054,0.0052586, 0.0016606,-0.0035037,0.0071954,-0.0002394


Not enough cowbell I get a high distance because there are no scandinavian or viking sample :

Target: Kevin_scaled
Distance: 3.0748% / 0.03074807
95.0 Celt
4.0 Roman
1.0 Goth



0.03104966 Celt:England_Roman
0.03772228 Goth:DEU_MA
0.06807401 Iberian:Northeast_c.6-8CE_ES
0.08695426 Iberian:Northeast_c.8-12CE
0.10851149 Roman:ITA_Rome_Latini_IA
0.11555280 Roman:ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity
0.15732186 Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial
0.20319936 Punic:Levant_LBN_Roman
0.25274309 Berber:Canary_Islands_Guanche

Pedro Ruben
10-11-2020, 01:51 PM
Target: Pedro_scaled
Distance: 2.0494% / 0.02049393
53.0 Iberian
29.8 Goth
17.2 Berber

Adamm
10-11-2020, 02:31 PM
Target: Adam_Scaled
Distance: 2.0540% / 0.02053972

87.6 Berber
10.0 Punic
2.4 Iberian

RyoHazuki
10-11-2020, 04:39 PM
Not enough cowbell I get a high distance because there are no scandinavian or viking sample :

Target: Kevin_scaled
Distance: 3.0748% / 0.03074807
95.0 Celt
4.0 Roman
1.0 Goth



0.03104966 Celt:England_Roman
0.03772228 Goth:DEU_MA
0.06807401 Iberian:Northeast_c.6-8CE_ES
0.08695426 Iberian:Northeast_c.8-12CE
0.10851149 Roman:ITA_Rome_Latini_IA
0.11555280 Roman:ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity
0.15732186 Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial
0.20319936 Punic:Levant_LBN_Roman
0.25274309 Berber:Canary_Islands_Guanche

Try this


Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial,0.1039821,0.1495156,-0.0235307,-0.0574065,0.0045265,-0.0204055,-0.0011946,-0.0051488,0.0006604,0.0196549,0.0034575,0.0025539,-0.0040602,-0.0014737,-0.0081715,-0.0014474,0.0035992,0.000454,0.0012178,-0.0032854,-0.0025579,0.0020454,-0.0006985,-0.0004845,0.0004141
Roman:ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity,0.1130169,0.148775,0 .0057355,-0.0298371,0.0238762,-0.012399,-0.0004504,-0.0026633,0.006792,0.0239033,0.0014005,0.0050268,-0.0083498,-0.003108,-0.0045523,-0.0004917,0.0042865,0.0005385,0.0032735,-0.0014902,-0.000993,0.0016075,-0.0009192,0.0002611,-0.0012474
Berber:Canary_Islands_Guanche,-0.0393828,0.1314096,-0.0023384,-0.0687344,0.0337292,-0.0363672,-0.0299874,0.008261,0.0708878,0.0305428,0.0075674,-0.0059948,0.0182554,-0.0176982,0.0232082,-0.0130468,0.0031814,-0.019206,-0.044321,0.010405,-0.0134762,-0.0377142,0.0232692,-0.0011806,0.0046224
Iberian:Northeast_c.6-8CE_ES,0.118376,0.1457285,0.0446885,0.013566,0.044 6235,-0.000139,0.0005875,0.007615,0.024441,0.0266065,-0.0080385,0.008917,-0.0064665,-0.006675,0.012079,0.002055,-0.008279,0.004371,-0.000754,0.0027515,-0.0004995,-0.0009275,-0.0056695,0.00241,-0.0022755
Iberian:Northeast_c.8-12CE,0.1141078,0.1454745,0.033941,-0.0063792,0.0375455,-0.001046,0.0001175,0.0031728,0.0259233,0.033076,-0.0032475,0.003859,-0.0118182,-0.0116978,0.0027482,-0.0012927,6.5e-05,-0.0040538,-0.00088,-0.0025325,0.004336,0.000371,-0.0001847,-0.0011747,-0.0003592
Punic:Levant_LBN_Roman,0.0887823,0.1447132,-0.0554368,-0.085595,-0.0116175,-0.0282378,-0.0074612,-0.0076152,0.0076698,0.0121642,0.0031262,-0.01139,0.0130822,-0.0017893,-0.0105862,0.0093475,0.002673,-0.0006652,0.0025138,0.0022512,0.000655,0.0059042,-0.0035742,0.0001205,-0.005299
Celt:England_Roman,0.127482,0.1368064,0.0595853,0. 0494651,0.0371496,0.0170523,0.0036593,0.0052416,0. 0030094,0.0031503,-0.0053821,0.007108,-0.0142077,-0.0127597,0.0219673,0.0017616,-0.0083819,0.0011221,0.0039503,0.0038054,0.0052586, 0.0016606,-0.0035037,0.0071954,-0.0002394
VK2020_Scotland_Orkney_VA:VK201,0.127482,0.138112, 0.058077,0.049096,0.042777,0.013108,0.003995,0.004 846,0.003681,-0.003098,-0.008931,0.006444,-0.019475,-0.016515,0.027144,-0.005834,-0.02712,-0.001267,-0.001131,0.004127,0.009358,0.004451,-0.010353,0.018436,0.003592
VK2020_Scotland_Orkney_VA:VK202,0.121791,0.132019, 0.054682,0.055556,0.040623,0.021475,-0.00705,0.002077,0.01268,0.010205,-0.000325,0.011839,-0.015163,-0.016239,0.025923,0.008486,0.002477,0.005068,0.000 251,0.005753,0.006114,0.002226,-0.003574,0.007712,0.005987
VK2020_Scotland_Orkney_VA:VK203,0.127482,0.138112, 0.060339,0.056525,0.030775,0.023427,0.003055,0.009 692,-0.001023,0.00328,-0.008119,0.007194,-0.011447,-0.014313,0.025108,-0.005834,-0.026598,0.0019,0.006411,0.01038,-0.002496,0.004575,-0.004437,0.015544,-0.001796
VK2020_Scotland_Orkney_VA:VK204,0.133173,0.128972, 0.073539,0.049742,0.048009,0.018965,0.013631,0.010 846,0.003068,-0.00893,-0.012017,0.007793,-0.013528,-0.013349,0.031351,0.002121,-0.007432,0.005321,0.003645,0.007629,0.009858,-0.006059,-0.001725,0.016388,0.002275
VK2020_Scotland_Orkney_VA:VK205,0.130897,0.138112, 0.071276,0.044574,0.034468,0.018407,0.005405,0.002 077,0.013499,0.000729,-0.002436,0.002248,-0.006541,-0.013349,0.013843,0.006762,-0.014081,0.002027,0.001383,-0.002376,0.012728,0.005935,0.000863,0.010122,0.006 826
VK2020_Scotland_Orkney_VA:VK207,0.12862,0.137096,0 .061471,0.046512,0.033237,0.013108,0.000705,0.0032 31,0.005931,0.00328,-0.00341,0.007793,-0.014866,-0.010046,0.03393,-0.006895,-0.017732,0.000253,0.006285,0.001126,0.001248,0.006 925,-0.003821,0.025546,0.002395
Goth:DEU_MA,0.1223596,0.1303939,0.061169,0.048773, 0.039792,0.0199408,0.010975,0.0052151,0.0013295,-0.0024966,-0.003735,0.001109,-0.0091576,-0.0038398,0.0161643,-0.0008352,-0.0133511,0.0032684,0.0041354,0.0040271,0.0060019, 0.0037342,-0.0007273,0.011146,-0.0004429
SWE_IA,0.122929,0.123895,0.067127,0.058463,0.04123 8,0.02008,0.005875,0.007615,0.002863,-0.009659,0.003735,0.001948,-0.006987,0.003853,0.020358,-0.006762,-0.015385,0.006461,0.009427,0.00025,0.00025,0.00284 4,0.002465,0.011447,0.000359

Cernunnos
10-12-2020, 03:58 PM
This is for G25?

Yep.

InfamousAngel99
10-12-2020, 04:56 PM
For the original spreadsheet:
Distance: 0.9213% / 0.00921271
50.8 Goth
36.6 Celt
6.8 Iberian
5.8 Roman

For the updated one you used to respond to someone else:
Distance: 0.8100% / 0.00810004
29.2 VK2020_Scotland_Orkney_VA
27.6 Celt
22.4 Goth
7.2 Roman
6.8 Iberian
6.8 SWE_IA

Beowulf
04-11-2024, 05:41 PM
Target: Beowulf_Scaled
Distance: 0.0135% / 0.01347524
44.4 Iberian
22.3 Celt
21.7 Roman
11.6 Goth

Mopi The Dire Wolf
04-11-2024, 05:50 PM
Target: Mopi_scaled
Distance: 1.4937% / 0.01493660
43.4 Celt
27.4 Roman
14.2 Goth
11.4 Iberian
3.6 Berber

Distance to: Mopi_scaled
0.03090054 Iberian:Northeast_c.6-8CE_ES
0.04056173 Iberian:Northeast_c.8-12CE
0.04671134 Celt:England_Roman
0.05293387 Goth:DEU_MA
0.07006891 Roman:ITA_Rome_Latini_IA
0.07334185 Roman:ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity
0.11793531 Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial
0.16810186 Punic:Levant_LBN_Roman
0.21951694 Berber:Canary_Islands_Guanche

MBVC
04-12-2024, 12:55 AM
Target: MBVC_scaled
Distance: 0.0295% / 0.02952793
66.0 Berber
26.8 Punic
7.2 Goth

Target: MBVC_scaled
Distance: 0.0308% / 0.03083219 | ADC: 0.5x RC
66.7 Berber
19.9 Roman
13.4 Punic

Rafael Passoni
04-12-2024, 02:07 AM
Target: caesarsalad_scaled
Distance: 2.4301% / 0.02430057
92.8 Roman
4.8 Iberian
2.4 Goth