Balkan Turk Results

[Noble Cuman]

From Deliorman-Silistre
Eurogenes K13
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 22.64
2 North_Atlantic 17.79
3 East_Med 17.54
4 West_Med 17.1
5 West_Asian 14.87
6 Siberian 3.87
7 East_Asian 1.71
8 Red_Sea 1.41
9 South_Asian 1.16
10 Amerindian 1.14
11 Oceanian 0.78

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 6.41
2 Romanian 7.66
3 Greek_Thessaly 10.83
4 Serbian 11.13
5 Moldavian 13.98
6 Central_Greek 16.27
7 Italian_Abruzzo 16.65
8 Croatian 17.71
9 East_Sicilian 17.78
10 Tuscan 17.82
11 Hungarian 18.25
12 West_Sicilian 18.58
13 North_Italian 19.16
14 Ashkenazi 19.68
15 South_Italian 20.65
16 Austrian 21.35
17 Tatar 22.6
18 East_German 23.02
19 Ukrainian_Lviv 23.29
20 South_Polish 24.64

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 81.1% Bulgarian + 18.9% Nogay @ 2.44
2 84.4% Bulgarian + 15.6% Afghan_Turkmen @ 2.59
3 85.9% Bulgarian + 14.1% Uzbeki @ 2.92
4 87.6% Bulgarian + 12.4% Hazara @ 2.97
5 86.8% Bulgarian + 13.2% Aghan_Hazara @ 3.17
6 85.9% Bulgarian + 14.1% Afghan_Tadjik @ 3.42
7 87.8% Bulgarian + 12.2% Uygur @ 3.64
8 90.4% Bulgarian + 9.6% Kirgiz @ 3.72
9 89.9% Bulgarian + 10.1% Kazakh @ 3.76
10 90.9% Bulgarian + 9.1% Hakas @ 3.78
11 90.4% Bulgarian + 9.6% Shors @ 3.81
12 68.8% Greek_Thessaly + 31.2% Tatar @ 3.86
13 86% Bulgarian + 14% Tadjik @ 3.89
14 91.8% Bulgarian + 8.2% Altaian @ 3.92
15 85.2% Bulgarian + 14.8% Turkmen @ 3.92
16 79.3% Romanian + 20.7% Nogay @ 3.92
17 92.6% Bulgarian + 7.4% Mongolian @ 4.11
18 93.4% Bulgarian + 6.6% Buryat @ 4.13
19 86.2% Bulgarian + 13.8% Balkar @ 4.14
20 93.1% Bulgarian + 6.9% Tuvinian @ 4.16

[Noble Cuman]

Relative. Same place.
Eurogenes K13
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 23.33
2 North_Atlantic 18.58
3 West_Med 15.68
4 West_Asian 15.11
5 East_Med 15.03
6 Siberian 4.93
7 South_Asian 3.05
8 Red_Sea 2.58
9 East_Asian 1.24
10 Northeast_African 0.35
11 Oceanian 0.14

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 8.26
2 Romanian 8.35
3 Serbian 10.8
4 Moldavian 12.82
5 Greek_Thessaly 13.2
6 Croatian 16.57
7 Hungarian 17.07
8 Italian_Abruzzo 18.56
9 Central_Greek 18.6
10 Tuscan 19.43
11 East_Sicilian 19.9
12 Austrian 20.14
13 North_Italian 20.22
14 Tatar 20.25
15 West_Sicilian 20.59
16 East_German 21.69
17 Ukrainian_Lviv 21.77
18 Ashkenazi 21.87
19 South_Italian 22.87
20 South_Polish 23.17

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 80.3% Bulgarian + 19.7% Afghan_Turkmen @ 3.65
2 80.1% Romanian + 19.9% Afghan_Turkmen @ 3.66
3 76.6% Romanian + 23.4% Nogay @ 3.79
4 81.8% Romanian + 18.2% Uzbeki @ 3.94
5 82.1% Bulgarian + 17.9% Uzbeki @ 3.99
6 68.7% Moldavian + 31.3% Turkish @ 4.02
7 61.2% Greek_Thessaly + 38.8% Tatar @ 4.07
8 81.3% Romanian + 18.7% Afghan_Tadjik @ 4.08
9 84.4% Romanian + 15.6% Hazara @ 4.23
10 84.6% Bulgarian + 15.4% Hazara @ 4.27
11 83.3% Bulgarian + 16.7% Aghan_Hazara @ 4.29
12 77.5% Bulgarian + 22.5% Nogay @ 4.29
13 83.2% Romanian + 16.8% Aghan_Hazara @ 4.38
14 52.2% Central_Greek + 47.8% Tatar @ 4.51
15 82.1% Bulgarian + 17.9% Afghan_Tadjik @ 4.52
16 81.1% Bulgarian + 18.9% Tadjik @ 4.54
17 80.9% Romanian + 19.1% Tadjik @ 4.6
18 62.6% Croatian + 37.4% Turkish @ 4.7
19 71.3% Serbian + 28.7% Nogay @ 4.72
20 87.5% Bulgarian + 12.5% Shors @ 4.86

[Noble Cuman]

Another Balkan Turk from Bulgaria
Eurogenes K13
# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 20.25
2 Baltic 18.97
3 East_Med 18.22
4 West_Asian 15.92
5 West_Med 15.35
6 Siberian 4.63
7 East_Asian 2.96
8 Red_Sea 2.43
9 South_Asian 0.62
10 Amerindian 0.45
11 Oceanian 0.22

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 8.2
2 Romanian 8.83
3 Greek_Thessaly 10.51
4 Serbian 12.21
5 Italian_Abruzzo 14.24
6 Central_Greek 14.88
7 Tuscan 16.02
8 East_Sicilian 16.31
9 Moldavian 16.5
10 West_Sicilian 16.74
11 North_Italian 17.77
12 Ashkenazi 18.4
13 South_Italian 18.97
14 Hungarian 19.18
15 Croatian 19.97
16 Austrian 21.66
17 French 23.54
18 Portuguese 23.65
19 East_German 23.7
20 West_German 23.73

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 75.5% Bulgarian + 24.5% Nogay @ 2.93
2 62.9% Italian_Abruzzo + 37.1% Tatar @ 3.22
3 74.3% Romanian + 25.7% Nogay @ 3.33
4 82.3% Bulgarian + 17.7% Aghan_Hazara @ 3.43
5 77% Romanian + 23% Turkmen @ 3.58
6 80.5% Bulgarian + 19.5% Afghan_Turkmen @ 3.65
7 84.2% Bulgarian + 15.8% Hazara @ 3.85
8 79% Bulgarian + 21% Turkmen @ 3.93
9 71% Italian_Abruzzo + 29% Chuvash @ 3.96
10 82.3% Bulgarian + 17.7% Uzbeki @ 3.99
11 62.1% Central_Greek + 37.9% Tatar @ 4
12 67.3% Serbian + 32.7% Turkish @ 4.23
13 83.8% Bulgarian + 16.2% Uygur @ 4.23
14 82.1% Bulgarian + 17.9% Afghan_Tadjik @ 4.44
15 82% Romanian + 18% Aghan_Hazara @ 4.49
16 87.4% Bulgarian + 12.6% Kirgiz @ 4.53
17 79.9% Romanian + 20.1% Afghan_Turkmen @ 4.55
18 75.7% Romanian + 24.3% Turkish @ 4.57
19 55.9% South_Italian + 44.1% Tatar @ 4.59
20 83.8% Romanian + 16.2% Hazara @ 4.7

[Avicenna]

According to these oracle's they seem to be roughly 80% local Balkan + 20% Turkic

[Noble Cuman]

According to these oracle's they seem to be roughly 80% local Balkan + 20% Turkic

Yes. They do not seem to have much Anatolian influence. Their Turkic part was not much mixed before coming to Balkans. Balkan Turks usually have more Tatar-Kipchak dna in North Bulgaria. There is more Oghuz-Anatolian influence in South Bulgaria and Thrace.

[Noble Cuman]

First sample.
MDLP K23b Oracle results:

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 35.31
2 European_Hunters_Gatherers 23.64
3 European_Early_Farmers 16.69
4 Near_East 6.03
5 South_Central_Asian 5.96
6 East_Siberian 3.3
7 Ancestral_Altaic 3.17
8 Tungus-Altaic 1.61
9 Amerindian 1.04
10 South_Indian 0.94
11 Australoid 0.81
12 North_African 0.52
13 Austronesian 0.49
14 Arctic 0.48

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian ( ) 5.43
2 Macedonian ( ) 5.52
3 Montenegrian ( ) 6.27
4 Serb_BH ( ) 6.98
5 Bosnian ( ) 7.17
6 Croat_BH ( ) 7.23
7 Croat ( ) 7.28
8 Romanian ( ) 7.86
9 Serb_Serbia ( ) 7.9
10 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain ( ) 7.91
11 Turk_Balikesir ( ) 8
12 Gagauz ( ) 9.07
13 Greek_Peloponnesos ( ) 9.57
14 Greek_Northwest ( ) 9.81
15 Greek_Thessaloniki ( ) 9.85
16 Ashkenazi_Jew ( ) 10.27
17 Greek_Thessaly ( ) 10.62
18 Turk_Aydin ( ) 10.69
19 Albanian_Tirana ( ) 11.21
20 Kosovar ( ) 11.38

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 71.7% Central_Greek ( ) + 28.3% Tatar_Mishar ( ) @ 2.2
2 68.9% Central_Greek ( ) + 31.1% Tatar-Kazan ( ) @ 2.53
3 64% Greek_Athens ( ) + 36% Tatar-Kazan ( ) @ 2.74
4 75% Central_Greek ( ) + 25% Chuvashs ( ) @ 2.76
5 58.3% Serb_Serbia ( ) + 41.7% Turk_Aydin ( ) @ 2.79
6 63.6% Greek_Smyrna ( ) + 36.4% Russian-Ural ( ) @ 2.81
7 72.4% Central_Greek ( ) + 27.6% Tatar ( ) @ 2.82
8 64.4% Greek_Athens ( ) + 35.6% Tatar-Mishar ( ) @ 2.83
9 66.2% Greek ( ) + 33.8% Tatar-Kazan ( ) @ 2.83
10 66.6% Greek ( ) + 33.4% Tatar-Mishar ( ) @ 2.84
11 69.4% Central_Greek ( ) + 30.6% Tatar-Mishar ( ) @ 2.89
12 67.8% Greek_Athens ( ) + 32.2% Tatar ( ) @ 2.9
13 69.9% Greek ( ) + 30.1% Tatar ( ) @ 2.95
14 61.7% Greek_Smyrna ( ) + 38.3% Russian-North ( ) @ 3.02
15 60.3% Greek_Smyrna ( ) + 39.7% Erzya ( ) @ 3.05
16 57.1% Greek_Smyrna ( ) + 42.9% Russian-Upper-Volga ( ) @ 3.08
17 63.8% Central_Greek ( ) + 36.2% Moksha ( ) @ 3.11
18 70.6% Greek_Athens ( ) + 29.4% Chuvashs ( ) @ 3.11
19 77.1% Greek ( ) + 22.9% Bashkir ( ) @ 3.11
20 65.3% Montenegrian ( ) + 34.7% Turk_Aydin ( ) @ 3.11

[Noble Cuman]

First sample again
puntDNAL K15 Oracle results

# Population Percent
1 NE_European 36.29
2 Mediterranean 30.84
3 Caucasian 20.3
4 SW_Asian 4.04
5 Siberian 3.11
6 E_Asian 2.7
7 Amerindian 1.28
8 Oceanian 0.62
9 S_Indian 0.53
10 Horn_Of_Africa 0.29

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Macedonian 7.1
2 Bulgarian 7.26
3 Romanian 7.79
4 Montenegrin 8.15
5 Bosnian 8.17
6 Greek_Thessaly 8.43
7 Italian 9.7
8 Greek_Central 9.94
9 Albanian 10.38
10 Tuscan 11.5
11 Serbian 12.08
12 French 16.18
13 Brazilian 16.59
14 Croatian 17.18
15 Portuguese 17.23
16 Spaniard 17.45
17 South_German 17.97
18 Ashkenazy_Jew 18.32
19 Utahn_White 18.72
20 Hungarian 19.12

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 78.6% Romanian + 21.4% Nogai @ 1.82
2 80.3% Macedonian + 19.7% Nogai @ 2.01
3 80% Bulgarian + 20% Nogai @ 2.06
4 83.3% Macedonian + 16.7% Turkmen @ 2.74
5 81.9% Romanian + 18.1% Turkmen @ 2.95
6 83.3% Bulgarian + 16.7% Turkmen @ 3.16
7 78.8% Montenegrin + 21.2% Nogai @ 3.32
8 80.8% Greek_Thessaly + 19.2% Chuvash @ 3.36
9 84.6% Macedonian + 15.4% Turk_Istanbul @ 3.41
10 83.9% Macedonian + 16.1% Kumyk @ 3.46
11 84.9% Macedonian + 15.1% North_Ossetian @ 3.51
12 84% Macedonian + 16% Balkar @ 3.51
13 85.5% Macedonian + 14.5% Azerbaijani @ 3.59
14 83.7% Bulgarian + 16.3% Tadjik @ 3.61
15 82.4% Romanian + 17.6% Tadjik @ 3.63
16 83% Macedonian + 17% Turk_Kayseri @ 3.65
17 79.5% Greek_Thessaly + 20.5% Bashkir @ 3.68
18 77.9% Greek_Central + 22.1% Chuvash @ 3.71
19 62.9% South_German + 37.1% Turk_Kayseri @ 3.75
20 69.7% French + 30.3% Azerbaijani @ 3.77

[Avicenna]

Yes. They do not seem to have much Anatolian influence. Their Turkic part was not much mixed before coming to Balkans. Balkan Turks usually have more Tatar-Kipchak dna in North Bulgaria. There is more Oghuz-Anatolian influence in South Bulgaria and Thrace.

How much Turkic DNA would you think cengiz coskun has ? He's originally a Bulgarian turk I believe

[Noble Cuman]

How much Turkic DNA would you think cengiz coskun has ? He's originally a Bulgarian turk I believe
Usually Deliorman Turks have 4-10 East Eurasian. That makes 20-30% Turkic. Kardzhali Turks can have more East Eurasian. They would be more Turkic.

[Bender1999]

How much Turkic DNA would you think cengiz coskun has ? He's originally a Bulgarian turk I believe

10-30% is probable.

[Noble Cuman]

Balkan Turk from Kardzhali in South Bulgaria.
Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 20.1
2 West_Asian 18.63
3 East_Med 16.84
4 North_Atlantic 16.15
5 West_Med 13.18
6 Siberian 5.17
7 Red_Sea 4.6
8 South_Asian 1.96
9 East_Asian 1.38
10 Northeast_African 1.06
11 Amerindian 0.94

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 11.41
2 Romanian 12.19
3 Greek_Thessaly 13.42
4 Serbian 15.2
5 Central_Greek 16.83
6 Italian_Abruzzo 17.18
7 Moldavian 17.65
8 East_Sicilian 18.05
9 West_Sicilian 19.83
10 Ashkenazi 20.11
11 Tuscan 20.25
12 South_Italian 20.91
13 Nogay 21.1
14 Croatian 21.33
15 Hungarian 21.49
16 Turkish 22.01
17 North_Italian 22.46
18 Tatar 22.5
19 Kumyk 23.33
20 Austrian 24.48

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 54.5% Turkish + 45.5% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.89
2 55.7% Moldavian + 44.3% Turkish @ 3.92
3 56% Turkish + 44% Ukrainian @ 4.15
4 66.1% Bulgarian + 33.9% Nogay @ 4.16
5 50.8% Croatian + 49.2% Turkish @ 4.3
6 63.2% Turkish + 36.8% Estonian @ 4.41
7 58.7% Turkish + 41.3% Polish @ 4.44
8 62.8% Turkish + 37.2% East_Finnish @ 4.5
9 55.9% Turkish + 44.1% South_Polish @ 4.53
10 62.6% Turkish + 37.4% Finnish @ 4.56
11 59.6% Turkish + 40.4% Kargopol_Russian @ 4.56
12 61.8% Turkish + 38.2% Southwest_Finnish @ 4.64
13 64.7% Romanian + 35.3% Nogay @ 4.76
14 60.2% Turkish + 39.8% Estonian_Polish @ 4.78
15 59.1% Moldavian + 40.9% Azeri @ 4.81
16 73.2% Bulgarian + 26.8% Afghan_Tadjik @ 4.83
17 68.3% Romanian + 31.7% Turkmen @ 4.92
18 59.7% Turkish + 40.3% Russian_Smolensk @ 5
19 70.1% Bulgarian + 29.9% Turkmen @ 5.02
20 60.7% Turkish + 39.3% Belorussian @ 5.12

[Noble Cuman]

From Greece-Gümülcine-Komotini
Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 21.38
2 Baltic 18.24
3 West_Asian 16.99
4 North_Atlantic 13.43
5 West_Med 10.68
6 Siberian 10.03
7 East_Asian 3
8 South_Asian 1.88
9 Red_Sea 1.88
10 Amerindian 1.41
11 Sub-Saharan 1.09

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 15.81
2 Greek_Thessaly 16
3 Romanian 16.95
4 Central_Greek 18.03
5 Italian_Abruzzo 18.94
6 East_Sicilian 19.03
7 Nogay 19.04
8 Ashkenazi 19.35
9 Serbian 19.94
10 Turkish 20.72
11 West_Sicilian 20.99
12 South_Italian 21.27
13 Turkmen 21.77
14 Moldavian 22.48
15 Tuscan 22.66
16 Tatar 23.05
17 Azeri 23.74
18 Afghan_Turkmen 24.04
19 Kumyk 24.05
20 Sephardic_Jewish 24.85

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 54.3% Tatar + 45.7% Cyprian @ 4.02
2 54.6% Tatar + 45.4% Lebanese_Muslim @ 4.63
3 58% Tatar + 42% Lebanese_Druze @ 4.7
4 59.2% Tatar + 40.8% Lebanese_Christian @ 4.89
5 60.9% Greek_Thessaly + 39.1% Afghan_Turkmen @ 5.58
6 58.9% Tatar + 41.1% Samaritan @ 5.68
7 58.2% Tatar + 41.8% Kurdish_Jewish @ 5.75
8 56.7% Tatar + 43.3% Assyrian @ 5.76
9 53.9% Cyprian + 46.1% Chuvash @ 5.86
10 57.8% Tatar + 42.2% Iranian_Jewish @ 6
11 55.1% Tatar + 44.9% Syrian @ 6.01
12 52.9% Turkish + 47.1% Tatar @ 6.21
13 61.6% Bulgarian + 38.4% Afghan_Turkmen @ 6.41
14 54.6% Tatar + 45.4% Tunisian_Jewish @ 6.6
15 53.7% Lebanese_Muslim + 46.3% Chuvash @ 6.68
16 56.5% Cyprian + 43.5% Mari @ 6.7
17 52% Tatar + 48% Sephardic_Jewish @ 6.72
18 56.4% Sephardic_Jewish + 43.6% Chuvash @ 6.89
19 64.7% Greek_Thessaly + 35.3% Uzbeki @ 6.89
20 63% South_Italian + 37% Mari @ 6.96

[Fedora]

How do regular Bulgarians score on gedmatch?

[Bender1999]

From Greece-Gümülcine-Komotini
Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 21.38
2 Baltic 18.24
3 West_Asian 16.99
4 North_Atlantic 13.43
5 West_Med 10.68
6 Siberian 10.03
7 East_Asian 3
8 South_Asian 1.88
9 Red_Sea 1.88
10 Amerindian 1.41
11 Sub-Saharan 1.09



Rather looks like a Tatar/Balkan mix than Oghuz/Balkan, but very Turkic(at least 30%).

[Noble Cuman]

How do regular Bulgarians score on gedmatch?

Kaspias have thread for that
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?334282-Bulgarian-Dodecad-K12b-averages-with-115-samples

[Noble Cuman]

Rather looks like a Tatar/Balkan mix than Oghuz/Balkan, but very Turkic(at least 30%).

Yes. Almost 15 east Eurasian.

[Noble Cuman]

From South Bulgaria
Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 21.45
2 Baltic 17.98
3 West_Asian 16.61
4 West_Med 16.46
5 North_Atlantic 15.7
6 Siberian 5.37
7 Red_Sea 2.88
8 East_Asian 2.54
9 Oceanian 0.54
10 South_Asian 0.47

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek_Thessaly 9.47
2 Bulgarian 10.35
3 Romanian 12.15
4 Central_Greek 12.29
5 Italian_Abruzzo 13.31
6 East_Sicilian 13.74
7 West_Sicilian 15.49
8 Ashkenazi 15.54
9 Serbian 16.02
10 South_Italian 16.37
11 Tuscan 16.75
12 Moldavian 19.93
13 North_Italian 19.94
14 Turkish 20.69
15 Sephardic_Jewish 21.42
16 Algerian_Jewish 21.77
17 Italian_Jewish 22.01
18 Nogay 23.27
19 Hungarian 23.52
20 Croatian 23.58

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 72% Greek_Thessaly + 28% Nogay @ 3.04
2 68.7% Central_Greek + 31.3% Tatar @ 3.26
3 74.9% Central_Greek + 25.1% Chuvash @ 3.53
4 61.9% South_Italian + 38.1% Tatar @ 3.9
5 77.6% Greek_Thessaly + 22.4% Afghan_Turkmen @ 3.93
6 77.2% Central_Greek + 22.8% Mari @ 4.2
7 69% South_Italian + 31% Chuvash @ 4.23
8 66.4% East_Sicilian + 33.6% Tatar @ 4.28
9 79.8% Greek_Thessaly + 20.2% Uzbeki @ 4.62
10 73.1% East_Sicilian + 26.9% Chuvash @ 4.79
11 68.8% Bulgarian + 31.2% Turkish @ 4.88
12 82.6% Greek_Thessaly + 17.4% Hazara @ 4.98
13 64.5% Romanian + 35.5% Turkish @ 5.09
14 73.7% Bulgarian + 26.3% Turkmen @ 5.11
15 81.3% Greek_Thessaly + 18.7% Aghan_Hazara @ 5.19
16 84.9% Greek_Thessaly + 15.1% Kazakh @ 5.23
17 86.6% Greek_Thessaly + 13.4% Hakas @ 5.28
18 85.9% Greek_Thessaly + 14.1% Shors @ 5.39
19 57% Serbian + 43% Turkish @ 5.4
20 74.2% Italian_Abruzzo + 25.8% Chuvash @ 5.43

[Chris596]

Great results! Greetings to all the Türkics around the world.

This is my mixed result:

[1,] "89.4% Montenegrin + 10.6% Tatar_Mishar" "0.0204"
[2,] "59.5% Gagauz + 40.5% Slovakian" "0.0205"
[3,] "92.9% Montenegrin + 7.1% Tatar_Lipka" "0.0206"
[4,] "48.2% Cossack_Ukrainian + 51.8% Greek" "0.0207"
[5,] "56.7% Greek + 43.3% Russian_Tver" "0.0207"
[6,] "75.5% Bulgarian + 24.5% Russian_Tver" "0.0208"
[7,] "91.8% Montenegrin + 8.2% Tatar_Kazan" "0.0208"
[8,] "33.9% Cossack_Ukrainian + 66.1% Gagauz" "0.0209"
[9,] "54% Albanian + 46% Cossack_Ukrainian" "0.0209"
[10,] "20% Ingrian + 80% Macedonian" "0.0209"

[Fedora]

How much Turkic DNA would you think cengiz coskun has ? He's originally a Bulgarian turk I believe
He's from Deliorman (North Bulgaria).
Here you have averages for almost all regions:
https://turkishdnaproject.com/balkan-turkleri/

[Noble Cuman]

From Momchilgrad-Mestanlı in South Bulgaria
Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 18.37
2 West_Asian 17.42
3 East_Med 17.18
4 North_Atlantic 15.65
5 West_Med 15.33
6 Siberian 7.75
7 Red_Sea 3.97
8 East_Asian 3.47
9 Oceanian 0.47
10 Northeast_African 0.4

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 12.54
2 Greek_Thessaly 13.48
3 Romanian 13.51
4 Central_Greek 16.27
5 Serbian 16.55
6 Italian_Abruzzo 16.7
7 East_Sicilian 17.5
8 West_Sicilian 18.93
9 Moldavian 19.39
10 Tuscan 19.48
11 Ashkenazi 19.54
12 South_Italian 20.08
13 Nogay 20.12
14 North_Italian 21.76
15 Turkish 22.07
16 Tatar 22.94
17 Croatian 23.09
18 Hungarian 23.1
19 Sephardic_Jewish 24.77
20 Kumyk 24.79

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 62.6% Bulgarian + 37.4% Nogay @ 4.5
2 60.9% Greek_Thessaly + 39.1% Nogay @ 4.94
3 69.5% Bulgarian + 30.5% Afghan_Turkmen @ 5.03
4 59.2% Central_Greek + 40.8% Tatar @ 5.16
5 53.5% South_Italian + 46.5% Tatar @ 5.17
6 61% Romanian + 39% Nogay @ 5.38
7 67.9% Greek_Thessaly + 32.1% Afghan_Turkmen @ 5.45
8 57.3% East_Sicilian + 42.7% Tatar @ 5.58
9 72.5% Bulgarian + 27.5% Uzbeki @ 5.82
10 75.8% Bulgarian + 24.2% Hazara @ 5.85
11 67.7% Central_Greek + 32.3% Chuvash @ 5.91
12 55.4% Tatar + 44.6% Cyprian @ 6
13 73.9% Bulgarian + 26.1% Aghan_Hazara @ 6.02
14 62.4% South_Italian + 37.6% Chuvash @ 6.03
15 52.1% Tatar + 47.9% Sephardic_Jewish @ 6.37
16 70.4% Central_Greek + 29.6% Mari @ 6.39
17 68.5% Romanian + 31.5% Afghan_Turkmen @ 6.41
18 58.8% Italian_Abruzzo + 41.2% Tatar @ 6.41
19 71.1% Greek_Thessaly + 28.9% Uzbeki @ 6.44
20 67.3% Italian_Abruzzo + 32.7% Chuvash @ 6.46

[mergen3]

Some of the Balkan Turks are more turkic than the central anatolian Turkish (especially the eastern part of the central anatolia).

[Noble Cuman]

Some of the Balkan Turks are more turkic than the central anatolian Turkish (especially the eastern part of the central anatolia).

Reason for that is nomad Turks always tried to move to western parts of Anatolia and Black sea. They were constantly fighting with their enemies and they were always sending nomadic Turks to borders. So now places like Giresun, Muğla etc have more Turkic ancestry. Balkan Turks can have both Oghuz and Tatar-Kipchak ancestry.

[Noble Cuman]

Deliorman-Razgrad-Silistre
Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 24.59
2 North_Atlantic 20.47
3 East_Med 16.98
4 West_Asian 16.52
5 West_Med 8.89
6 Siberian 3.95
7 Red_Sea 3.49
8 East_Asian 2.17
9 South_Asian 1.67
10 Amerindian 0.83
11 Oceanian 0.44

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanian 10.21
2 Bulgarian 10.53
3 Serbian 11.59
4 Moldavian 13.57
5 Greek_Thessaly 15.96
6 Hungarian 16.51
7 Croatian 16.78
8 Tatar 19.58
9 Austrian 20.08
10 Italian_Abruzzo 20.31
11 Central_Greek 20.78
12 Ukrainian_Lviv 21.34
13 East_German 21.73
14 East_Sicilian 22.04
15 Tuscan 22.14
16 South_Polish 22.37
17 Ukrainian 22.85
18 West_Sicilian 23.02
19 Ashkenazi 23.08
20 North_Italian 23.39

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 53.2% Turkish + 46.8% Finnish @ 2.13
2 54.1% Turkish + 45.9% Estonian @ 2.59
3 52.3% Turkish + 47.7% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.69
4 54.5% Southwest_Finnish + 45.5% Georgian_Jewish @ 2.75
5 54.8% Southwest_Finnish + 45.2% Assyrian @ 2.95
6 54% Finnish + 46% Assyrian @ 3.18
7 54.2% Finnish + 45.8% Armenian @ 3.32
8 54.8% South_Polish + 45.2% Turkish @ 3.53
9 53.8% Turkish + 46.2% East_Finnish @ 3.53
10 50.9% Turkish + 49.1% Belorussian @ 3.59
11 55.1% Southwest_Finnish + 44.9% Armenian @ 3.6
12 53.7% Finnish + 46.3% Georgian_Jewish @ 3.7
13 51.2% Polish + 48.8% Turkish @ 3.79
14 56.1% Southwest_Finnish + 43.9% Kurdish_Jewish @ 3.94
15 50.3% Azeri + 49.7% Southwest_Finnish @ 4
16 50.5% Turkish + 49.5% Estonian_Polish @ 4.05
17 56.8% South_Polish + 43.2% Azeri @ 4.07
18 55.2% Finnish + 44.8% Kurdish_Jewish @ 4.07
19 54.3% Ukrainian + 45.7% Turkish @ 4.17
20 56% Ukrainian_Lviv + 44% Turkish @ 4.18

[Bender1999]

Reason for that is nomad Turks always tried to move to western parts of Anatolia and Black sea. They were constantly fighting with their enemies and they were always sending nomadic Turks to borders. So now places like Giresun, Muğla etc have more Turkic ancestry. Balkan Turks can have both Oghuz and Tatar-Kipchak ancestry.

I don’t think so. We always forget the southern parts of Turkey which still have many nomads. I never read about nomads in Giresun, Cepni tribe settled there directly after their arrival. Also i don’t know whether this place works well for nomadic lifestyle. Western parts of Turkey were during the ottoman empire a place for nomadic winter camps, the same counts for example for Aleppo too. The lack of Turkic Dna in eastern parts of Turkey has many reasons and often discussed here, besides of specific subgroups like Yörük or Tahtaci, i don’t think there is a huge difference between Turks from different regions.

[Noble Cuman]

I don’t think so. We always forget the southern parts of Turkey which still have many nomads. I never read about nomads in Giresun, Cepni tribe settled there directly after their arrival. Also i don’t know whether this place works well for nomadic lifestyle. Western parts of Turkey were during the ottoman empire a place for nomadic winter camps, the same counts for example for Aleppo too. The lack of Turkic Dna in eastern parts of Turkey has many reasons and often discussed here, besides of specific subgroups like Yörük or Tahtaci, i don’t think there is a huge difference between Turks from different regions.

They were already half nomadic and they left it after awhile. Ottomans were trying to settle nomads every time. Also there is good amount of Turkic ancestry among Turks in Mersin, Adana.
Western Anatolian Turk people call theirselves Manav which means Yörük who do not have a nomadic life. Chepnis settled in that region after Trebizond Empire lost it. Byzantines gained sea borders after first Turkic invasion Seljuks in 11th century. Turkic tribes took those borders later in start of 13th century. Conquest of Antalya, Sinop etc.

[Noble Cuman]

Kardzhali-South Bulgaria
Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 22.75
2 Baltic 22.26
3 North_Atlantic 17.99
4 West_Asian 14.97
5 West_Med 13.49
6 East_Asian 2.68
7 Siberian 2.4
8 Red_Sea 2.34
9 Oceanian 0.8
10 South_Asian 0.32

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 7.14
2 Romanian 9.01
3 Greek_Thessaly 9.91
4 Serbian 12.45
5 Central_Greek 14.6
6 Italian_Abruzzo 15.16
7 East_Sicilian 15.99
8 Moldavian 16.49
9 Ashkenazi 16.72
10 West_Sicilian 17.39
11 Tuscan 17.71
12 South_Italian 19.02
13 Croatian 19.84
14 Hungarian 19.87
15 North_Italian 20.36
16 Austrian 23.15
17 Sephardic_Jewish 23.71
18 Italian_Jewish 23.96
19 Turkish 24.06
20 Algerian_Jewish 24.08

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 66.7% Moldavian + 33.3% Lebanese_Druze @ 3.62
2 82.6% Bulgarian + 17.4% Turkmen @ 3.94
3 56.6% Cyprian + 43.4% Finnish @ 4.07
4 82.3% Bulgarian + 17.7% Azeri @ 4.12
5 51% South_Polish + 49% Cyprian @ 4.32
6 85.1% Bulgarian + 14.9% Iranian @ 4.35
7 73.1% Serbian + 26.9% Assyrian @ 4.37
8 57.2% Cyprian + 42.8% Estonian @ 4.43
9 80.9% Bulgarian + 19.1% Turkish @ 4.44
10 68% Moldavian + 32% Lebanese_Christian @ 4.45
11 85.3% Bulgarian + 14.7% Kurdish @ 4.5
12 64.1% Moldavian + 35.9% Lebanese_Muslim @ 4.53
13 50.7% Ukrainian + 49.3% Cyprian @ 4.53
14 67.8% Moldavian + 32.2% Kurdish_Jewish @ 4.56
15 73.3% Serbian + 26.7% Georgian_Jewish @ 4.56
16 62.5% Croatian + 37.5% Lebanese_Druze @ 4.56
17 85.4% Bulgarian + 14.6% Georgian_Jewish @ 4.63
18 74.3% Serbian + 25.7% Kurdish_Jewish @ 4.63
19 85.8% Bulgarian + 14.2% Iranian_Jewish @ 4.64
20 74% Serbian + 26% Iranian_Jewish @ 4.65

[Noble Cuman]

Balkan Turk-Pomak Kardzhali-Ardino
Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 26.25
2 Baltic 21.78
3 East_Med 19.23
4 West_Asian 12.79
5 West_Med 11.71
6 Red_Sea 2.7
7 East_Asian 2.02
8 South_Asian 1.95
9 Siberian 1.07
10 Oceanian 0.47
11 Amerindian 0.04

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanian 6.35
2 Bulgarian 7.63
3 Serbian 7.82
4 Greek_Thessaly 12.71
5 Moldavian 13.71
6 Hungarian 13.97
7 Croatian 16.19
8 Austrian 16.33
9 Tuscan 16.44
10 Italian_Abruzzo 16.49
11 North_Italian 17.05
12 Central_Greek 18.33
13 West_German 18.46
14 East_German 18.56
15 West_Sicilian 18.85
16 French 19.32
17 East_Sicilian 19.44
18 South_Dutch 20.22
19 Ashkenazi 20.58
20 Portuguese 21.43

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 70.5% Austrian + 29.5% Iranian_Jewish @ 3.13
2 67.6% East_German + 32.4% Iranian_Jewish @ 3.21
3 67.1% East_German + 32.9% Lebanese_Druze @ 3.28
4 54.6% North_Swedish + 45.4% Cyprian @ 3.35
5 68% East_German + 32% Kurdish_Jewish @ 3.35
6 73.8% Hungarian + 26.2% Iranian_Jewish @ 3.36
7 70.8% Austrian + 29.2% Kurdish_Jewish @ 3.36
8 74.1% Hungarian + 25.9% Kurdish_Jewish @ 3.38
9 73.4% Hungarian + 26.6% Lebanese_Druze @ 3.5
10 70% Austrian + 30% Lebanese_Druze @ 3.52
11 71.3% Hungarian + 28.7% Lebanese_Muslim @ 3.55
12 70% Austrian + 30% Assyrian @ 3.6
13 73.4% Hungarian + 26.6% Assyrian @ 3.64
14 67.2% East_German + 32.8% Assyrian @ 3.72
15 55.4% North_Swedish + 44.6% Lebanese_Muslim @ 3.78
16 64.9% East_German + 35.1% Lebanese_Muslim @ 3.98
17 67.9% Austrian + 32.1% Lebanese_Muslim @ 4.06
18 68.3% Hungarian + 31.7% Turkish @ 4.12
19 71.8% Hungarian + 28.2% Syrian @ 4.14
20 74.6% Hungarian + 25.4% Lebanese_Christian @ 4.15

[Noble Cuman]

Thessaloniki-Langadas-Crimean Tatar. High West Asian. Avarege of west Asian for Thessaloniki Turks is 12.
Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 20.86
2 Baltic 19.41
3 East_Med 16.68
4 West_Med 14.92
5 North_Atlantic 13.9
6 Siberian 5.89
7 East_Asian 3.5
8 Red_Sea 3.12
9 South_Asian 1.71

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 13.53
2 Romanian 14.7
3 Greek_Thessaly 14.75
4 Central_Greek 17.15
5 Serbian 17.84
6 Italian_Abruzzo 18.05
7 East_Sicilian 18.62
8 Nogay 18.69
9 Moldavian 19.89
10 Turkish 20.5
11 West_Sicilian 20.68
12 Ashkenazi 20.95
13 South_Italian 21.06
14 Kumyk 21.5
15 Tuscan 21.64
16 Turkmen 22.86
17 Kabardin 23.33
18 Tatar 23.65
19 Azeri 23.68
20 Croatian 23.68

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 58.5% Bulgarian + 41.5% Nogay @ 3.75
2 56.4% Greek_Thessaly + 43.6% Nogay @ 4.74
3 56.6% Romanian + 43.4% Nogay @ 5.08
4 50.8% Moldavian + 49.2% Turkish @ 5.48
5 59.8% Turkish + 40.2% Ukrainian @ 5.52
6 63% Turkish + 37% Kargopol_Russian @ 5.55
7 58.5% Turkish + 41.5% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 5.56
8 65.6% Bulgarian + 34.4% Balkar @ 5.86
9 68.4% Bulgarian + 31.6% Afghan_Tadjik @ 5.88
10 64.5% Bulgarian + 35.5% Turkmen @ 5.95
11 65% Bulgarian + 35% Kabardin @ 5.97
12 66.2% Turkish + 33.8% East_Finnish @ 6.05
13 53.9% Turkish + 46.1% Croatian @ 6.05
14 63.5% Romanian + 36.5% Balkar @ 6.14
15 60% Turkish + 40% South_Polish @ 6.19
16 66.6% Turkish + 33.4% Estonian @ 6.19
17 62.5% Turkish + 37.5% Polish @ 6.2
18 63.1% Turkish + 36.9% Erzya @ 6.23
19 63.8% Turkish + 36.2% Estonian_Polish @ 6.29
20 63.3% Turkish + 36.7% Russian_Smolensk @ 6.38

[Noble Cuman]

Balkan Turk from Thessaloniki, Plovdiv, Skopje, Varna, Targovishte, Niš. Originally posted by Kaspias.
Eurogenes K13

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 25.96
2 Baltic 18.75
3 East_Med 15.78
4 West_Med 13.86
5 West_Asian 12.63
6 Siberian 5.37
7 East_Asian 3.22
8 Red_Sea 2.88
9 South_Asian 1.32
10 Oceanian 0.23

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanian 8.57
2 Bulgarian 9.93
3 Serbian 10.02
4 Greek_Thessaly 13.6
5 Moldavian 15.16
6 Hungarian 15.51
7 North_Italian 15.79
8 Tuscan 15.8
9 Italian_Abruzzo 16.43
10 Austrian 17.22
11 Croatian 17.94
12 West_German 18.36
13 French 18.38
14 West_Sicilian 18.57
15 Central_Greek 18.61
16 East_German 19.41
17 East_Sicilian 19.66
18 South_Dutch 19.75
19 Portuguese 19.76
20 Spanish_Galicia 20.36

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 59.5% Tuscan + 40.5% Tatar @ 4.69
2 87.3% Romanian + 12.7% Kirgiz @ 5.12
3 83.7% Romanian + 16.3% Aghan_Hazara @ 5.14
4 89.8% Romanian + 10.2% Mongolian @ 5.28
5 86.7% Romanian + 13.3% Kazakh @ 5.29
6 84.6% Romanian + 15.4% Uygur @ 5.37
7 58.6% Italian_Abruzzo + 41.4% Tatar @ 5.47
8 85.7% Romanian + 14.3% Hazara @ 5.47
9 91.1% Romanian + 8.9% Buryat @ 5.49
10 80.8% Serbian + 19.2% Aghan_Hazara @ 5.51
11 89.4% Romanian + 10.6% Altaian @ 5.55
12 82.7% Romanian + 17.3% Afghan_Turkmen @ 5.56
13 92.4% Romanian + 7.6% Oroqen @ 5.61
14 84% Romanian + 16% Uzbeki @ 5.64
15 90.8% Romanian + 9.2% Tuvinian @ 5.66
16 63.4% Austrian + 36.6% Turkish @ 5.71
17 92% Romanian + 8% Hezhen @ 5.77
18 91.9% Romanian + 8.1% Xibo @ 5.78
19 78.6% Serbian + 21.4% Turkmen @ 5.84
20 68.2% Italian_Abruzzo + 31.8% East_Finnish @ 5.85

[Noble Cuman]

From Skopje
Eurogenes K13

Admix Results (sorted):



# Population Percent
1 Baltic 22.84
2 North_Atlantic 21.85
3 East_Med 20.42
4 West_Med 13.77
5 West_Asian 12.65
6 Siberian 3.28
7 Red_Sea 2.7
8 East_Asian 1.32
9 Oceanian 0.72
10 Amerindian 0.45

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 5.06
2 Romanian 5.47
3 Serbian 8.52
4 Greek_Thessaly 10.5
5 Moldavian 13.52
6 Italian_Abruzzo 15.77
7 Hungarian 15.88
8 Central_Greek 16.38
9 Tuscan 16.42
10 Croatian 16.65
11 East_Sicilian 17.63
12 West_Sicilian 17.83
13 North_Italian 17.9
14 Ashkenazi 18.58
15 Austrian 19
16 South_Italian 20.68
17 East_German 20.99
18 West_German 21.99
19 French 22.43
20 Ukrainian_Lviv 22.48

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 66% Italian_Abruzzo + 34% Erzya @ 2.63
2 50.1% Cyprian + 49.9% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.72
3 66.7% Central_Greek + 33.3% Finnish @ 2.94
4 67.3% Central_Greek + 32.7% East_Finnish @ 2.97
5 89.9% Bulgarian + 10.1% Afghan_Turkmen @ 3.35
6 77.7% Serbian + 22.3% Turkish @ 3.4
7 65.6% Italian_Abruzzo + 34.4% Kargopol_Russian @ 3.42
8 82.5% Serbian + 17.5% Iranian_Jewish @ 3.45
9 82% Serbian + 18% Assyrian @ 3.45
10 82.7% Serbian + 17.3% Kurdish_Jewish @ 3.47
11 61.9% South_Italian + 38.1% East_Finnish @ 3.49
12 92.9% Bulgarian + 7.1% Kazakh @ 3.5
13 93.2% Bulgarian + 6.8% Shors @ 3.51
14 93.3% Bulgarian + 6.7% Kirgiz @ 3.51
15 94.2% Bulgarian + 5.8% Altaian @ 3.53
16 88.1% Romanian + 11.9% Turkmen @ 3.53
17 91% Bulgarian + 9% Uzbeki @ 3.53
18 93.6% Bulgarian + 6.4% Hakas @ 3.54
19 91.5% Bulgarian + 8.5% Aghan_Hazara @ 3.58
20 94.9% Bulgarian + 5.1% Tuvinian @ 3.59

[Noble Cuman]

Half Albanian+Half Balkan Turk
Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 23.34
2 East_Med 19.23
3 West_Med 19.07
4 Baltic 16.63
5 West_Asian 14.3
6 Siberian 2.18
7 East_Asian 1.67
8 South_Asian 1.61
9 Red_Sea 1.18
10 Sub-Saharan 0.78
11 Oceanian 0.01

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 7.69
2 Greek_Thessaly 7.88
3 Romanian 8.2
4 Italian_Abruzzo 11.07
5 Tuscan 11.16
6 Serbian 11.98
7 North_Italian 12.52
8 Central_Greek 12.79
9 West_Sicilian 13.16
10 East_Sicilian 14.19
11 South_Italian 16.5
12 Ashkenazi 17.05
13 Moldavian 17.76
14 Portuguese 19.18
15 Hungarian 19.32
16 Spanish_Extremadura 19.63
17 Spanish_Galicia 19.98
18 French 20.28
19 Spanish_Cataluna 20.61
20 Spanish_Murcia 20.71

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 62.7% Italian_Abruzzo + 37.3% Moldavian @ 4.14
2 77.3% Italian_Abruzzo + 22.7% Kargopol_Russian @ 4.35
3 59.5% Romanian + 40.5% Italian_Abruzzo @ 4.41
4 73.5% Italian_Abruzzo + 26.5% Ukrainian @ 4.51
5 66.8% Italian_Abruzzo + 33.2% Croatian @ 4.59
6 72.6% Italian_Abruzzo + 27.4% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 4.59
7 65.4% Central_Greek + 34.6% East_German @ 4.66
8 73.2% Italian_Abruzzo + 26.8% South_Polish @ 4.68
9 78.1% Italian_Abruzzo + 21.9% Erzya @ 4.68
10 63% Central_Greek + 37% Austrian @ 4.74
11 79.3% Italian_Abruzzo + 20.7% East_Finnish @ 4.79
12 52.4% Italian_Abruzzo + 47.6% Serbian @ 4.8
13 73.3% Central_Greek + 26.7% North_Swedish @ 4.82
14 79.2% Italian_Abruzzo + 20.8% Estonian @ 4.88
15 70.6% Romanian + 29.4% South_Italian @ 4.89
16 54.3% South_Italian + 45.7% Hungarian @ 4.89
17 75.8% Italian_Abruzzo + 24.2% Polish @ 4.9
18 75.9% Italian_Abruzzo + 24.1% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 4.9
19 78.9% Italian_Abruzzo + 21.1% Finnish @ 4.92
20 65.1% Romanian + 34.9% West_Sicilian @ 4.96