Illuminati Jews

[Rudy]

Some people here differentiate between regular Jews and Zionist. Henry Makow differentiates between regular Jews and Satanic Jews. There are excerpts from an Oprah interview in the article.

Our society believes the myth that Jews can't be pedophiles, or abuse their own children. This is a "MYTH," they do abuse children. There are even those who practice cannibalism, and perform human sacrifices. Believe me I saw it with my own eyes. I've come to the point in my life where I feel I need to bear witness. I have and will continue to until I'm sure what I had to endure as a child is believed by you and others like you. I will do whatever is possible so what happened to me doesn't happen to anyone else!" - Vicki Polin

http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel.cfm?channelid=126&contentid=5878

[MarcvSS]

Some people here differentiate between regular Jews and Zionist. Henry Makow differentiates between regular Jews and Satanic Jews. There are excerpts from an Oprah interview in the article.


http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel.cfm?channelid=126&contentid=5878Well ofcourse people differentiate... A Jew and a zionist can be the same, but can also be two totally different individuals...

Ergo a Jew is a Jew... A zionist is not automaticly a Jew and a Jew is not automaticly a zionist...

Look at the orthodox Jews living in Russia for example... They spit on Pisrael.

[Fortis in Arduis]

Germany's pre-nazi Jewish population was 0.75%

Adolf Hitler accused them of being behind capitalism and communism, and the lie stuck, as they were pre-eminent within those two fields.

After that tiny 0.75% were removed, they were replaced by German capitalists and German communists.

Germany's non-German population stands at what now?

Capitalism and communism are just capitalism and communism, and Jews are just Jews.

Do we need to continue peddling these stupid myths?

Qui bono?

:rolleyes:

[MarcvSS]

Germany's pre-nazi Jewish population was 0.75% Is that so? Where do you obtain these facts? Did you look into how many Jewish Germans were deported according to the German Government Archives? Go look into that and come back and still make this claim.

Did you never ever wonder how Germany became a economic giant during the second WW? You know after that 0.75% was removed?

Oh and just as a reminder; In deported I don't mean, send of to deathcamps awaiting the Zyklon B shower...


Adolf Hitler accused them of being behind capitalism and communism, and the lie stuck, as they were pre-eminent within those two fields. Multiple peoples accused the Jews of capitalism including the Romans... Ever see the elder scrolls of Zion? Take a look at it some time.


After that tiny 0.75% were removed, they were replaced by German capitalists and German communists. Capitalists yes, communists no... And the important part about the whole being that the German capitalists kept the money and wealt in Germany.

Ever see the plans for Germania?


Germany's non-German population stands at what now? Dunno... Why dont you tell us. And please add some kind of explanation as to where this question has to lead.


Capitalism and communism are just capitalism and communism, and Jews are just Jews. What a great insight. That doesn't automaticly mean a Jew isn't a capitalist or communist...


Do we need to continue peddling these stupid myths? Yupzz...



Qui bono? Sorry I don't speak any Non- NE languages...

[Rudy]

Jews are just Jews.
That tends to be my opinion, but I see frequently on this board and others where they try to split them into two groups.

For example, on the blue eyed financial crisis thread, I did not see a mention of which Jews in the pictures were alleged to be Zionist.

As far as the cui bono part, I do not feel like speculating why Makow, a Jew himself, would get any self benefit from pointing out the alleged existence of a Satanic cult of Jews (Illuminati). It could be like Loki said before, a distraction.

If the story is a myth, then Vicki Polin must have fabricated her witness account.


Adolf Hitler accused them of being behind capitalism and communism, and the lie stuck, as they were pre-eminent within those two fields.
This sentence contradicts itself a little bit.

[Fortis in Arduis]

Is that so? Where do you obtain these facts? Did you look into how many Jewish Germans were deported according to the German Government Archives? Go look into that and come back and still make this claim.

My figure came from here:


According to the census of June 16, 1933, the Jewish population of Germany, including the Saar region (which at that time was still under the administration of the League of Nations), was approximately 505,000 people out of a total population of 67 million, or somewhat less than 0.75 percent. That number represented a reduction from the estimated 523,000 Jews living in Germany in January 1933; the decrease was due in part to emigration following the Nazi takeover in January. (An estimated 37,000 Jews emigrated from Germany during 1933.)

http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/article.php?lang=en&ModuleId=10005276


Did you never ever wonder how Germany became a economic giant during the second WW? You know after that 0.75% was removed?

The national socialist political economy was brillant, and almost universally admired - or feared. I think most nationalist economists today would draw inspiration from it. Nationalisation of industries and the stock exchange and co-operative economics; all quite brilliant.


Multiple peoples accused the Jews of capitalism including the Romans... Ever see the elder scrolls of Zion? Take a look at it some time.

Yes, I read 'The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion' many years ago.

Scary, and masterful i describing how the few might control the many, but Adolf Hitler himself declared it to be a forgery:

It was propaganda; perhaps for the simple people.

I agree with the national socalist analysis that capitalism and communism are the destroyers of nations, but not with the superstitious idea that the Jewish people or Judaism are the origins of this menace.


Capitalists yes, communists no... And the important part about the whole being that the German capitalists kept the money and wealt in Germany.

I referred also to the tragic division of Germany and the German traitors who came thereafter.

The nationalisation of Germany's economy was a work of genius.


Ever see the plans for Germania?

Yes.


Dunno... Why dont you tell us. And please add some kind of explanation as to where this question has to lead.

Anything from 10% upwards.

Removing Germany's Jewish population did not stop capitalism and communism, the twin evils outlined in Mein Kampf, and it did not stop the growth of a multiracial Germany.

Therefore, the Jewish people were probably not the cause of Germany's capitalist and communist misfortunes, nor those of the world, they simply had an affinity for those ideologies, because they were, and some still are, a people without a nation of their own.


What a great insight. That doesn't automaticly mean a Jew isn't a capitalist or communist...

I never said that it did.

This what I should have said:

Communism and capitalism are not Jewish, not then, and not now.


Sorry I don't speak any Non- NE languages...

For the sake of consistency, you might endeavour to change the 'neo' in 'Neo National- Socialistic' to a more suitable Germanic alternative.


Adolf Hitler accused them of being behind capitalism and communism, and the lie stuck, as they were pre-eminent within those two fields.


This sentence contradicts itself a little bit.

Either it contradicts or it does not.

There are no half-measures in contradiction.

That sentence does not contradict itself. Jewish individuals were pre-eminent within those fields, but they did not represent, neither were they the originators of those fields, not at all...

I think that we need a proper non-historicist revision of German national socialism and I fail to see what is so 'new' about what currently passes itself off as neo-nazism today.

The Nazis removed the Jewish capitalists and communists, after accusing them of being the orginators of international capitalism and communism, but they forgot to criticise themselves and prevent the re-emergence of these materialist ideologies.

This is the folly of Chauvinism, and look where we are today.

In English, for those who prefer that, 'Who benefits'?

[MarcvSS]

Yes, I read 'The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion' many years ago.

Scary, and masterful i describing how the few might control the many, but Adolf Hitler himself declared it to be a forgery:

It was propaganda; perhaps for the simple people.I was referring to the docu made in 2005... http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7169205203825782546

Watch the Che painting hanging on the wall of the jews livingroom... Jews are no commies?

[Fortis in Arduis]

I was referring to the docu made in 2005... http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7169205203825782546

Watch the Che painting hanging on the wall of the jews livingroom... Jews are no commies?

Many Jews are commies, but communism is not Jewish.

I can scarcely believe that I am having to tell you this.

[MarcvSS]

Many Jews are commies, but communism is not Jewish.

I can scarcely believe that I am having to tell you this.I can scarcely believe that you believe this crap...

Karl Marx, the "inventor" of communisme and author of "The communist manifest", I do believe was a Jew. Nothing more nothing less...

[Fortis in Arduis]

I can scarcely believe that you believe this crap...

Karl Marx, the "inventor" of communisme and author of "The communist manifest", I do believe was a Jew. Nothing more nothing less...

Does that make communism Jewish? Communism is not a racial ideology and Marx criticised Jewish capitalists directly.

Was Vietnamese communism Jewish as well?

What about communism here in India?

Is the Chinese Communist Party Jewish?

Communism does not belong to any one race or ethnicity, although many Jews took to it readily in countries where it was their best means of political dissent, just as many foreigners in my country take to the left as their best means of political dissent.

:coffee:

Hang on a second... communism is another materialistic ideology, like capitalism, and it has nothing to do with the Jewish people at all.

Marx even wrote a book, interpreted by many as being anti-Semitic:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Jewish_Question

Aside:

Do you believe that you are are a soul MarcvSS?

[MarcvSS]

Does that make communism Jewish? Communism is not a racial ideology and Marx criticised Jewish capitalists directly.

Was Vietnamese communism Jewish as well?

What about communism here in India?

Is the Chinese Communist Party Jewish?

Communism does not belong to any one race or ethnicity, although many Jews took to it readily in countries where it was their best means of political dissent, just as many foreigners in my country take to the left as their best means of political dissent.

:coffee:I didn't say every commie is a Jew...

Your twisting my words and your poor argumentation is totally not relevant...

[MarcvSS]

Do you believe that you are are a soul MarcvSS?
I don't quit get your question here comrade...

[Fortis in Arduis]

I didn't say every commie is a Jew...

Your twisting my words and your poor argumentation is totally not relevant...

I did not say that you did.

Would you say that communism is Jewish? :wink

[MarcvSS]

Would you say that communism is Jewish? :winkThe base certainly is yes...

[Lenny]

Germany's pre-nazi Jewish population was 0.75%

Is that so? Where do you obtain these facts?
Officially 0.75%, but the unofficial flood of "Ostjuden" during and right after the 1914-1918 war, raised the true number by a lot.

It's one of the reasons the NSDAP propaganda was able to raise anti-Jewish populist sentiment so much: In the 1920s, regular Germans were conscious of the fact that many German cities had huge numbers of immigrant-Ostjuden. (To say nothing of the fact that so much of German society was owned by the original 0.75%-Jews).

Hence point #8 of the NSDAP platform adopted in early 1920:

8. There must not be any further immigration of non-Germans. We demand that all non-Germans who immigrated since 2 August 1914 be forced to leave the Reich immediately.

[SwordoftheVistula]

I did not say that you did.

Would you say that communism is Jewish? :wink


Does that make communism Jewish? Communism is not a racial ideology and Marx criticised Jewish capitalists directly.

Communism does not belong to any one race or ethnicity, although many Jews took to it readily in countries where it was their best means of political dissent, just as many foreigners in my country take to the left as their best means of political dissent.

If you mean the advanced political and philosophical theories and thoughts which constitute 'communism', then yes they are jewish. Communism has been adopted as a tool by others either to push for redistribution of wealth within a society (American Blacks, African National Congress, various peoples who were occupied by colonial empires including the celts) or as a way to maintain control over a society. Robert Mugabe would fit into both categories, first advocating communism to redistribute wealth and power from a powerful/productive class to one much less so, and then after achieving independence continuing the system as a way to maintain power over the country for himself and his pals. Could Robert Mugabe sit down and write The Communist Manifesto himself? Doubtful. For that you need the jews.



Hang on a second... communism is another materialistic ideology, like capitalism

As long as people have human needs like food and shelter, you are going to have to have some sort of ideology to deal with that. Suppose I'm hungry, but don't have any food. My neighbor has a couple chickens. What happens now? Should he be required to give me a chicken? Do I have to go and ask him for a chicken, and perhaps mop his floors or do some other unpleasant task before he gives me a chicken? If I sneak in at night and grab a chicken when he's not looking, will other members of the community intervene?

Marx even wrote a book, interpreted by many as being anti-Semitic:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Jewish_Question

Marx concludes that while individuals can be 'spiritually' and 'politically' free in a secular state, they can still be bound to material constraints on freedom by economic inequality

Hey, now we know where Obama/Sharpton etc get their ideas! Blacks have 'civil rights' but are not 'truly free' due to 'persistent economic inequality'


Officially 0.75%, but the unofficial flood of "Ostjuden" during and right after the 1914-1918 war, raised the true number by a lot.

It's one of the reasons the NSDAP propaganda was able to raise anti-Jewish populist sentiment so much: In the 1920s, regular Germans were conscious of the fact that many German cities had huge numbers of immigrant-Ostjuden. (To say nothing of the fact that so much of German society was owned by the original 0.75%-Jews).

Hence point #8 of the NSDAP platform adopted in early 1920:

Yes, it's been a while since I have watched Der Ewige Jude, but one of the arguments presented in the piece was to show jews making up large portions of important segments of society while their portion of the overall population was very small.

[Fortis in Arduis]

To me, capitalism and Marxism are just materialistic ideologies with nothing intrinsically Jewish about them.

There are Jewish nationalists who oppose international capitalism and socialism, and they are possibly a proportionately larger group in Israel than white Americans of the same political persuasion are in America.

...or British nationalists are in Britain for that matter...

Nazis and others refuse to acknowledge and applaud these people because they want a bogeyman to blame.

Also groups such as the NPD receive tacit support, and it is alleged, funding from Islamists and anti-Zionists such as the Iranian president.

Seeing so called 'nationalists' supporting Islamist aggression is very dissappointing to say the least, and counter-productive as can be evidenced by the tragic demise of the Islamophile French Front National.

How much longer before the uber-state-infiltrated NPD takes its own calculated fall from grace? :coffee:

[Lenny]

How much longer before the uber-state-infiltrated NPD takes its own calculated fall from grace? :coffee:

Well, the recent takeover of the 'nationalist' clothing line "Thor Steinar" by Arab venture-capitalists out of Dubai, did seem almost like a calculated move to demoralize people.

See here; "Thor Steinar has been sold to Dubai?!?! (http://armedwithknowledge.blogspot.com/2008/11/kauft-nicht-bei-deutsche-thor-steinar.html)" :mmmm: