Sanna Marin - Finnish Prime Minister

[decordoba]

https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/eKnr9JkQHv4mzii42kTZNA--~A/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjtzbT0xO3c9ODAw/https://media-mbst-pub-ue1.s3.amazonaws.com/creatr-uploaded-images/2020-10/d4fb1e60-0dde-11eb-b73f-769e1085fb92-
Can you classify her ?

[Luigi C]

Baltid + Dinarid maybe

[Komintasavalta]

She's the most Uralisch out of these minister ladies. The others all have a more gracile facial skeleton with smaller cheekbones. And they have lower canthal tilt and more prominent eyelids. Also the soft tissue of their cheeks is less firm and less evenly distributed.

https://i.imgur.com/bWPo7Jb.jpg

Here you can see that the two ladies on the left have a too small mandible (which is a Northwest European trait from a Finno-Permic point of view). They also have a much smaller and narrower forehead, so that they probably have much lower cranial capacity.

https://i.imgur.com/5pX1YhI.jpg

In Coon's typology, East Baltid is a Central Northern European type which is a mix between Northwest European and Northeast European types. Sanna Marin is more like a pure Northeast European type, which is closer to types like Ladogan or sub-Uralid.

[XenophobicPrussian]

She's the most Uralisch out of these minister ladies. The others all have a more gracile facial skeleton with smaller cheekbones. And they have lower canthal tilt and more prominent eyelids. Also the soft tissue of their cheeks is less firm and less evenly distributed.

https://i.imgur.com/bWPo7Jb.jpg

Here you can see that the two ladies on the left have a too small mandible (which is a Northwest European trait from a Finno-Permic point of view). They also have a much smaller and narrower forehead, so that they probably have much lower cranial capacity.

https://i.imgur.com/5pX1YhI.jpg

In Coon's typology, East Baltid is a Central Northern European type which is a mix between Northwest European and Northeast European types. Sanna Marin is more like a pure Northeast European type, which is closer to types like Ladogan or sub-Uralid.
Pseudo-science garbage, based on multiple pics, Marin is actually an Alpinized Faelid and passes better in Germany than Finland, let alone the Urals. The blonde is the most Uralisch(as a Baltid), although none have very much to do with Uralids or the people of the Urals.

Marin:

https://images.thequint.com/thequint/2019-12/6e5a1958-2e79-436c-85a8-49ee2f16a9aa/Sanna_Marin_mediakuva_3.jpg

https://blogs.ei.columbia.edu/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/sanna-marin-finland-medium-2.jpg

Random German women similar to Marin:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/99/ArianeHingst-crop.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/dc/0c/cc/dc0ccc6a860c63e7441ab3f51dd3ea93.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/97/Unterm_Radar_Christiane_Paul.jpg

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/04/02/article-2595073-1CC3C0BF00000578-685_636x382.jpg

Not Germans but various mixes of NW Euros:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/VqQGzVNxNn32KIErE0YqwjLa4TfTLNbf6RQaZ7tVEAC60Oepw_ Mdk0H9UrPT0FeAh4SO6i7u3yil2oewFsSBZxnRYovpZ67a5MW2 mDQ3Vax3s8KxQGuLNKFobyzwEckMoGmmAqg6tPk0f8l8DB9Tgt AkASQTm_Tg_EGBHtnGyLNSMeZcxoXXo9iB__BQHYGVfBNvh0kC Ny55

https://images.fandango.com/ImageRenderer/300/0/redesign/static/img/default_poster.png/0/images/masterrepository/performer%20images/p200997/petawilson-australiaweek05penfolds.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/37/OliviaWildeRestSDCCJuly10.jpg/170px-OliviaWildeRestSDCCJuly10.jpg

Meanwhile in the Urals:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/NxF3ZbMn6VugiR3WMjdBbUZlaFV9agCfeIZm-iJrK8lAW3vSVAag53aUVdk8A97ZWRw8VJ7RiM0EXPxy-VaCA8BFtpYrM9wXRqQ

https://64.media.tumblr.com/18aef4a45de9ed9de0de9789d21d4158/tumblr_pk06wkPD2x1rfk0eyo3_1280.jpg

https://gdb.rferl.org/588BFBFF-3F38-4A30-80A9-585B4AA1DDD0_w1071_s.jpg

https://mrted57.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/port-komi-girls.jpg

https://sardayal.ru/images/kultura-cover.jpg

Modern Finnish people have very little to do with Uralic or even other Finno-Ugric people, outside the few outliers, despite silly pan-Finno-Ugricism.

[Immanenz]

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[Immanenz]

Marin def. passes as German and Austrian (even though as atypical,), also one of the first prime ministers who is a 10.
here a Miss Austria from 1970:
https://www.news.at/_storage/asset/6524142/storage/newsat:slideshow/file/97685246/Miss-Austria.jpg
not really Faelid, but def. pred. Cm (Faelid + Baltic)

[Immanenz]

Pseudo-science garbage, based on multiple pics, Marin is actually an Alpinized Faelid and passes better in Germany than Finland, let alone the Urals. The blonde is the most Uralisch(as a Baltid), although none have very much to do with Uralids or the people of the Urals.



i think Faelid/ Cm is underrated in Finnland (at least on anthrobards)
https://img.welt.de/img/regionales/nrw/mobile203469724/7712501897-ci102l-w1024/urn-newsml-dpa-com-20090101-191113-99-713109-large-4-3-jpg.jpg

[Kivan]

Nordocromagnid.

[The Blade]

Nordo-Faelid.

[Herr Galke]

8.69/10

[XenophobicPrussian]

i think Faelid/ Cm is underrated in Finnland (at least on anthrobards)
https://img.welt.de/img/regionales/nrw/mobile203469724/7712501897-ci102l-w1024/urn-newsml-dpa-com-20090101-191113-99-713109-large-4-3-jpg.jpg
Yep, also Borreby(see Alexander Kuoppala, or Marco Hietala for a reduced/+Sub-Nordid one), and really NW Euro types overall.

Carleton Coon's East Baltid type distribution on his Races of Europe map seems to correlate with Faelid types(Sweden, Finland, Pomerania) save for his enclaves in the Baltic states(who are probably more Borreby+Baltid like Zydrunas Savickas). Basically just a continuation of his broad Brunn type(where he lumps British Brunns and Dutch/NW Germans/W Norwegian Faelids/Tronders together).

[travv]

This is the second or third time she is been posted here.

Her features are indeed very Uralische.

https://cdn1.img.inosmi.ru/images/24832/22/248322200.jpg
https://gumlet.assettype.com/nationalherald%2F2019-12%2Fc64aead4-8dbe-4c3f-b262-252aafbef5b9%2FFinnish_minister_Sanna_Marin.jpg?au to=format&q=35&w=1200&rect=0,0,6597,3711

She's similar to these Volga-Uralic girls.


https://i.imgur.com/MKibHDe.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/ZpzIJ5f.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/JfG8YF3.jpg

[rero]

Pseudo-science garbage, based on multiple pics, Marin is actually an Alpinized Faelid and passes better in Germany than Finland, let alone the Urals. The blonde is the most Uralisch(as a Baltid), although none have very much to do with Uralids or the people of the Ural.

Do you live in Germany? I do, and I rarely see her type here. That's absolute nonsense she passes better here than in Finland. She hast Eastern/Ladogan traits which is especially visible in some angles. She's rather far from the average German phenotype, and passes better in Finland than anywhere else. I do agree though that many Finns have a western look, but she is not a good example.

[Komintasavalta]

Pseudo-science garbage, based on multiple pics, Marin is actually an Alpinized Faelid and passes better in Germany than Finland, let alone the Urals. The blonde is the most Uralisch(as a Baltid), although none have very much to do with Uralids or the people of the Urals.

...

Uralisch/NEUP doesn't refer to the average Uralic type but rather to an idealized ancestral type of the Northeast European and West Siberian boreal zone, related to Coon's Ladogan type.

German people look woggy and off-white in the same way as US whites, but Marin doesn't. Even if Germans have light pigmentation, they still look like intermediate between blonde Italians and true Northern Europeans like Finno-Permics.

This lady you posted is a good example of a German look that would be foreign in the <=30% EEF sphere. She has a Germanic protruding chin, so her jawline looks like it consists of three curves, where the mandible and the chin form different segments. Marin has a larger mandible that looks like it consists of a single segment. The lady in the photo below also has supraorbital rims that are slanted outwards, which is another Germanic trait. Like this lady, Germanic people often even have different kind of skin than normal people, where their skin is colored in a more patchy or uneven way, or where their skin looks somehow leathery.

https://i.imgur.com/xGNwoUK.jpg

Here's morphs of Finnish and Germanic teams in the 2019 women's hockey world cup. The Finnish morph has the largest cheekbones, largest jaw, and highest canthal tilt, similar to when Marin compared to the other Finnish ministers I posted. The Germanic morphs have a more narrow and pointy chin, but the Finnish morph has a more wide chin, like Marin.

https://i.imgur.com/5e8w9Q3.jpg

Here's morphs of teams in the 2019 European women's volleyball cup arranged in rows by decreasing order of genetic northernness (Finno-Permic, North Germanic, West Germanic, and West Germanic mixed with Romance). Again I think Marin looks the most like the Finno-Permic morphs, which appear to have a more massive facial skeleton than the North Germanic morphs.

https://i.imgur.com/UgjomBz.jpg

[travv]

Her features are similar to Coon's Ladogan type.

https://i.imgur.com/JjuBbyo.jpg

[Immanenz]

Her features are similar to Coon's Ladogan type.

https://i.imgur.com/JjuBbyo.jpg

Well, this person is unlike the other examples he gave pred Cm. Just a bit high headed- but for Coon this meant a lot. But of course this attribute as well as the cheekbone structure is a contribution of Ladogan.

[XenophobicPrussian]

Well, this person is unlike the other examples he gave pred Cm. Just a bit high headed- but for Coon this meant a lot. But of course this attribute as well as the cheekbone structure is a contribution of Ladogan.
The eyes are still wrong imo, Marin still has different eyes, but yeah that isn't even the best example of a Ladogan(those eyes lean somewhat to Baltid/Neo-Danubian, Croatian user Stearsolina who is largely East Nordid has similar eyes imo). He conveniently left out Coon's other Ladogan plates(and none of them look alike anyway so citing Coon is meaningless either way):

http://www.friendsofsabbath.org/Further_Research/e-books/Races%20of%20Europe%20-%20C%20Coon/bilder/troe021.jpg

http://www.friendsofsabbath.org/Further_Research/e-books/Races%20of%20Europe%20-%20C%20Coon/bilder/troe023.jpg

related Coon phenotype, Lappish:

https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/lappid.jpg

Here's an actual Finn that you can say has significant Ladogan/Lappid(Lappid if we want to be specific, imo):

https://static-cdn.sr.se/sida/images/1018/2269637_1200_675.jpg
(on the right, Marin looks closer to the left one)

https://www.playmakerstats.com/img/jogadores/27/59227_ori_leena_puranen.jpg

https://is.mediadelivery.fi/img/468/4a37278b0ebd4c889eb9fdb3b393da51.jpg

https://static-cdn.sr.se/sida/images/1018/2785042_1200_674.jpg?preset=768x432

https://static-cdn.sr.se/sida/images/1018/2877275_1200_675.jpg?preset=768x432
(again, Marin looks closer to the two on the side)

@travv Those Volga-Uralic examples look nothing like her, the 2nd one somewhat, the other two no way. The Germans I posted look far closer. She even looks like a darker Natalie Dormer who is English, is she Lagodan too? I've seen so many Germans, Danish, Dutch look like Marin it's ridiculous to me for someone to suggest otherwise, and keep in mind Germans aren't exactly the paragon of Western looks.

Even if she has a small amount of Ladogan influence(you guys are just focusing on 1-2 side-ish profile pics instead of considering all pics), there's no way she is the same phenotype as these examples of Ladogans:

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/the-races-of-the-world/images/7/70/LadogaN.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20190612152256

https://pp.userapi.com/c10533/u20874247/29532255/x_8d61087b.jpg

https://phototass4.cdnvideo.ru/width/1020_b9261fa1/tass/m2/uploads/i/20170429/4484806.jpg

[chociprasa]

Similar to Swedish politician Annie Lööf (Sanna is obviously cuter though):
https://static-cdn.sr.se/sida/images/185/d290f9d6-1c2e-4d83-8d76-c0ee9f1407f1.jpg

[travv]

The eyes are still wrong imo, Marin still has different eyes, but yeah that isn't even the best example of a Ladogan(those eyes lean somewhat to Baltid/Neo-Danubian, Croatian user Stearsolina who is largely East Nordid has similar eyes imo). He conveniently left out Coon's other Ladogan plates(and none of them look alike anyway so citing Coon is meaningless either way):

http://www.friendsofsabbath.org/Further_Research/e-books/Races%20of%20Europe%20-%20C%20Coon/bilder/troe023.jpg


Yes, good example of Ladogan male type.

I posted that example because she is a good example of Khanty woman.

This is the case when Coon gave the ideal representative of the type.


These Khanty women below look like her twins.


https://i.imgur.com/EBva7SN.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/C7UG9nH.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/JMsX3pD.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/TUEc94w.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/7OuVA0T.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/le7iMIf.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/iYuWWQd.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/rCVC9S7.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/31pjuTS.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/oa02G8R.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/4K575st.jpg

[Harkonnen]

Pseudo-science garbage, based on multiple pics, Marin is actually an Alpinized Faelid and passes better in Germany than Finland, let alone the Urals. The blonde is the most Uralisch(as a Baltid), although none have very much to do with Uralids or the people of the Urals.

Marin:

https://images.thequint.com/thequint/2019-12/6e5a1958-2e79-436c-85a8-49ee2f16a9aa/Sanna_Marin_mediakuva_3.jpg

https://blogs.ei.columbia.edu/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/sanna-marin-finland-medium-2.jpg

Random German women similar to Marin:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/99/ArianeHingst-crop.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/dc/0c/cc/dc0ccc6a860c63e7441ab3f51dd3ea93.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/97/Unterm_Radar_Christiane_Paul.jpg

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/04/02/article-2595073-1CC3C0BF00000578-685_636x382.jpg

Not Germans but various mixes of NW Euros:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/VqQGzVNxNn32KIErE0YqwjLa4TfTLNbf6RQaZ7tVEAC60Oepw_ Mdk0H9UrPT0FeAh4SO6i7u3yil2oewFsSBZxnRYovpZ67a5MW2 mDQ3Vax3s8KxQGuLNKFobyzwEckMoGmmAqg6tPk0f8l8DB9Tgt AkASQTm_Tg_EGBHtnGyLNSMeZcxoXXo9iB__BQHYGVfBNvh0kC Ny55

https://images.fandango.com/ImageRenderer/300/0/redesign/static/img/default_poster.png/0/images/masterrepository/performer%20images/p200997/petawilson-australiaweek05penfolds.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/37/OliviaWildeRestSDCCJuly10.jpg/170px-OliviaWildeRestSDCCJuly10.jpg

Meanwhile in the Urals:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/NxF3ZbMn6VugiR3WMjdBbUZlaFV9agCfeIZm-iJrK8lAW3vSVAag53aUVdk8A97ZWRw8VJ7RiM0EXPxy-VaCA8BFtpYrM9wXRqQ

https://64.media.tumblr.com/18aef4a45de9ed9de0de9789d21d4158/tumblr_pk06wkPD2x1rfk0eyo3_1280.jpg

https://gdb.rferl.org/588BFBFF-3F38-4A30-80A9-585B4AA1DDD0_w1071_s.jpg

https://mrted57.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/port-komi-girls.jpg

https://sardayal.ru/images/kultura-cover.jpg

Modern Finnish people have very little to do with Uralic or even other Finno-Ugric people, outside the few outliers, despite silly pan-Finno-Ugricism.

He is essentially spewing metric facts which you for some reason don't want to acknowledge.

[Gota_type_]

There is a small number of Spanish women that could resemble here. And I don´t know if "Marin" is popular in Finland but it is also a Spanish surname.

[travv]

I think all three examples of Khanty/Mansi that Coon gave very well show the different variations of appearance that they can have.

https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/troe022.jpg
https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/troe023.jpg
https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/troe024.jpg


According to this chart below West Siberians may have shifted to West (Komi people) or to eastern shifted people (Nenets) what Coons's examples perfectly show.

https://i.imgur.com/VEvwGBB.jpg

Source:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?332539-Anthropology-of-Yamal-Peninsula&p=6893444

Page 261.

[Immanenz]

The eyes are still wrong imo, Marin still has different eyes, but yeah that isn't even the best example of a Ladogan(those eyes lean somewhat to Baltid/Neo-Danubian, Croatian user Stearsolina who is largely East Nordid has similar eyes imo).

I kind of disagree on Stearsolina. She isnt really East Nordid, lacks kind of the craggyness, + exegarrated facelenght, Irano- morphic -ness, nose etc.she is kind of a mix of her mother and father in looks. Her mother looks very continental Germanic (from Dutch to Swiss/ Austrian- Subnordid + Faelid).Stearsolina does have however more of an Eastern vibe compared to her.

[travv]

@travv Those Volga-Uralic examples look nothing like her, the 2nd one somewhat, the other two no way. The Germans I posted look far closer. She even looks like a darker Natalie Dormer who is English, is she Lagodan too?


I actually think she looks neither your examples nor mine. Your examples look too North-Western and my examples look too Volga-Uralic (they're Udmurts).

In fact she could be somewhere between. In Coon's scheme probably pass as East Baltic. Coon said his East Baltic is mix between reduced Borreby, Nordic and Ladogan and this type is very common in Finland.

She looks very Finnish to me and I think her best fit is in Finland.

[Harkonnen]

Yep, also Borreby(see Alexander Kuoppala, or Marco Hietala for a reduced/+Sub-Nordid one), and really NW Euro types overall.

Carleton Coon's East Baltid type distribution on his Races of Europe map seems to correlate with Faelid types(Sweden, Finland, Pomerania) save for his enclaves in the Baltic states(who are probably more Borreby+Baltid like Zydrunas Savickas). Basically just a continuation of his broad Brunn type(where he lumps British Brunns and Dutch/NW Germans/W Norwegian Faelids/Tronders together).

Your problem is that you classify according to looks, in your primitive brain you have made predetermined choice that everything you think looks good, looks western, and then vice versa. This is exactly how a primitive brain/spritually low person operates. Spiritually high person sees the reality as it is, doors of perception are cleansed and everything appears in its true and infinite form. But you have closed yourself up, and see all things thro' narrow chinks of your cavern. Despite Sanna is metrically very similar to Komintasavalta's Volga girls, you can't see this, because in your primitive and low brain, all you see and feel, is that, according to your personal tastebuds Komintasavalta's Volga girls look ugly* and Sanna in fact looks quite handsomely, so naturally according to your primitive reptilian brain they can not be of same essence, despite the fact that they are metrically almost identical.
This is the dilemma of the primitive reptilian brain.

*there is no objective rationale behind your decision, it is mostly based on esoterism; lighting and styling, some little nuance that throws you off, to some little forest footpath leading to nowhere at all. But the spiritually high person stays on the main road, sees the big picture, and says his greetings to the sun, to the sun hiding behind the Eagle's wing. Hearing the wind tear the flapping flags of ancient armies frozen in time, and in front of the truth, Eagle's wing flaps four hundred and thirty-five thousand times a minute.


https://youtu.be/BuMBmK5uksg

[travv]

Think this Finnish girl posted Ymyyakhtakh looks uber Volga-Uralic.


https://i.imgur.com/yVV8Acg.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/GMv9eDg.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/QEHMmE8.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/fsMgDfI.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/cDMlW1l.jpg

[Lemminkäinen]

There is a small number of Spanish women that could resemble here. And I don´t know if "Marin" is popular in Finland but it is also a Spanish surname.

I would say that in the northern Europe it is a Finnish name. In general, my advice is that don't try to make sense of Finnish surnames, at least don't try to see context between Finnish names and appearances :)

Persons with surname Marin.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/FxNDiLtPyaXoUArZ6

[Gota_type_]

I would say that in the northern Europe it is a Finnish name. In general, my advice is that don't try to make sense of Finnish surnames, at least don't try to see context between Finnish names and appearances :)

Persons with surname Marin.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/FxNDiLtPyaXoUArZ6

Yes, specially your names are quite funny. Mikka, Pekka, Juha, and similars. Many of them look femenine (not trying to offend but it is a fact).

And Marín is a quite common surname since it is a town in northern Spain in which the army was settled. In fact the USA marines are derived from Marín (Spain) since they took the reference of the important name and prestige that the army (ships) of Spain had in the XVI-XVII centuries to créate their army.

[Komintasavalta]

Think this Finnish girl posted Ymyyakhtakh looks uber Volga-Uralic.


https://i.imgur.com/yVV8Acg.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/GMv9eDg.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/QEHMmE8.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/fsMgDfI.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/cDMlW1l.jpg


Yeah, that girl:

https://i.imgur.com/irWyV7g.jpg

Morph of Mari girls from VKontakte:

https://i.imgur.com/IR4WsRF.jpg

BTW Mari El in Finnish is Marinmaa (Marin land).

[Lemminkäinen]

Yeah, that girl:

https://i.imgur.com/irWyV7g.jpg

Morph of Mari girls from VKontakte:

https://i.imgur.com/IR4WsRF.jpg

BTW Mari El in Finnish is Marinmaa (Marin land).

Something in the landscapes implies that she is not Finnish.

[RN97]

lol, at people saying she's mongoloid. If people asked me a stereotypical (although much prettier than average) look that Norwegians posses, she'd legit be a strong contender. She's also pretty as fuq.

[Lemminkäinen]

Yes, specially your names are quite funny. Mikka, Pekka, Juha, and similars. Many of them look femenine (not trying to offend but it is a fact).

And Marín is a quite common surname since it is a town in northern Spain in which the army was settled. In fact the USA marines are derived from Marín (Spain) since they took the reference of the important name and prestige that the army (ships) of Spain had in the XVI-XVII centuries to créate their army.

Mika is a common name, derived from Mikael/Michael by dropping the end.

Juha is derived from Johan(nes). The Finnish transcription from Swedish Johan is Juha(n).

Pekka is an old peasantly derivation of Peter.

[rero]

lol, at people saying she's mongoloid. If people asked me a stereotypical (although much prettier than average) look that Norwegians posses, she'd legit be a strong contender. She's also pretty as fuq.

She's not mongoloid, but she looks Finnish. Main type I saw in Norway was Borreby which is a North-Western type. In my opinion, she doesn't look typical for Noway at all.

[Lemminkäinen]

Yes, specially your names are quite funny. Mikka, Pekka, Juha, and similars. Many of them look femenine (not trying to offend but it is a fact).

And Marín is a quite common surname since it is a town in northern Spain in which the army was settled. In fact the USA marines are derived from Marín (Spain) since they took the reference of the important name and prestige that the army (ships) of Spain had in the XVI-XVII centuries to créate their army.

Finland is full of names like Marin. Helin, Salin, Julin, Sulin, Malin, Melin, Olin, Palin etc.

Then Viren, Alen, Siren, Saren, Caven etc.

I don't understand how someone can assume that Marin is somehow un-Finnish.

[Komintasavalta]

Something in the landscapes implies that she is not Finnish.

Whadya mean, a lake landscape is not Finnish? It's just an old photo from 2009.

She probably has foreign ancestry though, because her surname is the name of one of the noble families of Finland, which arrived to Finland from Germany, and other people with the same surname have been Swedish-speaking.


Finland is full of names like Marin. Helin, Salin, Julin, Sulin, Malin, Melin, Olin, Palin etc.

Then Viren, Alen, Siren, Saren, Caven etc.

I don't understand how someone can assume that Marin is somehow un-Finnish.

Most of those are Swedish names according to Sukunimi-info, which makes them un-Finnish. They're often even pronounced unphonetically, like /ʋireːn/ instead of /ʋiren/.

This says that the surname "Marin" was shortened from the Latin "Marinus" (https://www.kotus.fi/nyt/kysymyksia_ja_vastauksia/nimien_alkuperasta/marin), and Latin surnames were taken up by the clergy and the educated classes:


Vaikka Marin-nimen haltijoina on tuolloin ollut niin talollisia, torppareita, renkejä kuin sotilaitakin, liittynee nimen synty osaksi muun muassa latinan ja kreikan kielillä muodostettuihin sivistyneistönimiin. Niitä otettiin yleisesti vanhan sukunimen tilalle 1500- ja 1600-luvuilla lähdettäessä opintielle.

Pohjoissavolaisen Marin-suvun mahdollinen kantaisä on Pielavedellä papinvirassa 1700-luvun vaihteessa ollut rautalampilaisen Kiiskin suvun poika, joka oli latinaistanut nimekseen Olaus Marinus (lat. mare 'meri'). Hänen jälkeläisiään oli Pielavedellä myös lukkareina. Marinus-nimi lyheni 1700-luvulla asuun Marin, kuten sivistyneistönimille oli tyypillistä.

[XenophobicPrussian]

Something in the landscapes implies that she is not Finnish.
lol Finland is literally the land of a thousand lakes. If it's the hills those are extremely moderate hills, everywhere has hilly areas, even the Netherlands. I guess you can guess Komi based on being dressed trashy.

[Gota_type_]

Finland is full of names like Marin. Helin, Salin, Julin, Sulin, Malin, Melin, Olin, Palin etc.

Then Viren, Alen, Siren, Saren, Caven etc.

I don't understand how someone can assume that Marin is somehow un-Finnish.

I did not say that, I just said that it coincides with a typical Spanish surname and the name of a town here: Marín. And also coincidentally, this town had our Armada during centuries and that is why the US marines were named (because of the power that our Armada had in the past).

And thank you for the explanation about the names, I did not know that they were a derivative of more typical names. Anyways the fact is that they sound femenine, with all those i and a. Like Ana, María, Sandra, Petra, and many Spanish women names. Mikka or Juha even sound more femenine, and that is also a contrast with your neighbourghs and their Thor, Sven, Alexander that sound more harsh and masculine, as they should be, not trying to offend anyways.

[Komintasavalta]

lol Finland is literally the land of a thousand lakes. If it's the hills those are extremely moderate hills, everywhere has hilly areas, even the Netherlands. I guess you can guess Komi based on being dressed trashy.

Actually it's literally a land of about 168,000 lakes with an area of 500 square meters or more.

In the era when people looked more unsophisticated and dressed in a more uncool way, their hearts used to be purer. Even Komis now look like some post-post lifestyle blogger post-Instagram ladies.

[Vanu]

Trønder

[Vanu]

There is nothing Dinarid about her face.

[Lemminkäinen]

Whadya mean, a lake landscape is not Finnish? It's just an old photo from 2009.

She probably has foreign ancestry though, because her surname is the name of one of the noble families of Finland, which arrived to Finland from Germany, and other people with the same surname have been Swedish-speaking.



Additionally her pose in photos is very un-Finnish. Please send me pm and reveal her name.






Most of those are Swedish names according to Sukunimi-info, which makes them un-Finnish. They're often even pronounced unphonetically, like /ʋireːn/ instead of /ʋiren/.



All those names are latinized truncated names. I am Finnish and similar, even more uncommon latinized names are very common in my roots. Sanna Marin is also Finnish. Are you a Svekoman pretending FU- minded, only to spread anti-Finnish propaganda? Really shameless.

You didn't digest the Finnish explanation for the name Marin. Obviously your understanding of Finnish is not fluent.

[Lemminkäinen]

lol Finland is literally the land of a thousand lakes. If it's the hills those are extremely moderate hills, everywhere has hilly areas, even the Netherlands. I guess you can guess Komi based on being dressed trashy.

Yeah, many things make me curious. Her pose, clothes, landscape. Combining all this.

[Lemminkäinen]

I did not say that, I just said that it coincides with a typical Spanish surname and the name of a town here: Marín. And also coincidentally, this town had our Armada during centuries and that is why the US marines were named (because of the power that our Armada had in the past).

And thank you for the explanation about the names, I did not know that they were a derivative of more typical names. Anyways the fact is that they sound femenine, with all those i and a. Like Ana, María, Sandra, Petra, and many Spanish women names. Mikka or Juha even sound more femenine, and that is also a contrast with your neighbourghs and their Thor, Sven, Alexander that sound more harsh and masculine, as they should be, not trying to offend anyways.


The finnish word formation usually locates vowels to the end of word body. This doesn't happen only with load words, but also with old Baltic-Finnic words. It is easily seen by comparing Estonian and Finnish words with same origin. IDK is it an influence of Saami or proto-Germanic/old German languages. Both were spoken in Finland before Baltic-Finnic/Finnish. Yeah, words ending with vowel sound feminine.

[Östsvensk]

lol, at people saying she's mongoloid. If people asked me a stereotypical (although much prettier than average) look that Norwegians posses, she'd legit be a strong contender. She's also pretty as fuq.

She looks very similar to a Swedish girl I used to know, except that this girl was metrically more Nordid (she was as Nordid as you could possibly get). In facial features, they could be identical twins.

[Harkonnen]

Well in any case, what comes to name debacle, she is married to Räikkönen now, so in essence and reality she is a Räikkönen. I fully expect her to come to her senses and officially change her name any minute now.

[Hialt]

Finnish people are supposed to be quite a distinct people, genetically, yet in the woman pictured she could be fully "germanic," in that her nose is long, (and maybe even "hooked.") Due to the presence of Mongolian (Saami) in that region, I would argue that this individual is unmixed with such a type, and perhaps even distinct from "Baltids," due to the nose not being small.

[Harkonnen]

Finnish people are supposed to be quite a distinct people, genetically, yet in the woman pictured she could be fully "germanic," in that her nose is long, (and maybe even "hooked.") Due to the presence of Mongolian (Saami) in that region, I would argue that this individual is unmixed with such a type, and perhaps even distinct from "Baltids," due to the nose not being small.

North Mongoloids have longer noses than Germanics, this anthropometric fact.

[Immanenz]

Finnish people are supposed to be quite a distinct people, genetically, yet in the woman pictured she could be fully "germanic," in that her nose is long, (and maybe even "hooked.") Due to the presence of Mongolian (Saami) in that region, I would argue that this individual is unmixed with such a type, and perhaps even distinct from "Baltids," due to the nose not being small.

lmao
this is how Westeuros are reacting when seeing her :D
https://c.nau.ch/i/RN6DQ/680/belgium-europe-brexit.webp

[oh-nahhh]

Nordic with "Lappoid"

[Harkonnen]

Finnish people are supposed to be quite a distinct people, genetically, yet in the woman pictured she could be fully "germanic," in that her nose is long, (and maybe even "hooked.") Due to the presence of Mongolian (Saami) in that region, I would argue that this individual is unmixed with such a type, and perhaps even distinct from "Baltids," due to the nose not being small.

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?334127-Kyl%E4lahti-philtrum-height

As you can see, you can shove your Germanics to your ass.