View Full Version : Balkan Turk GEDmatch Results, Dodecad K12b Averages
Kaspias
10-16-2020, 11:21 AM
151 samples in total.
Components
https://i.ibb.co/xzdsTHM/komponentpng.png
Comparison between Turks & Greeks, Bulgarians, Macedonians
https://i.ibb.co/GMXtVwW/Plot.png
PCA's
https://i.ibb.co/jW9r4pZ/PCAAv1.png
https://i.ibb.co/LSrC38h/PCAAv2.png
https://i.ibb.co/W2yTTLv/PCAcoklu.png
Averages
https://i.ibb.co/p3D9rSb/komponentler.png
Turk_Trakya,8.48,3.85,1.04,0.37,21.03,25.64,0.86,0 .08,7.83,3.00,27.75,0.03
Turk_Deliorman,8.07,3.08,0.62,0.69,21.58,28.74,0.9 4,0.07,7.05,2.60,26.53,0.06
Turk_Makedonya,6.76,1.79,1.02,0.50,24.44,26.63,0.5 3,0.26,8.13,1.01,28.81,0.11
Individuals
https://i.ibb.co/5W5pHhX/Rumeli.png
Turk_Trakya1,7.73,4.37,1.4,0.3,18.4,24.7,2.08,0,6. 97,4.92,29.14,0
Turk_Trakya2,8.16,2.92,0.29,0,22.75,25.92,0.36,0,7 .18,4.53,27.65,0.23
Turk_Trakya3,8.94,4.5,0,0,18.84,26,1.32,0,7.24,2.8 9,30.26,0
Turk_Trakya4,6.33,5.8,0.24,0.87,20.32,25.28,0.1,0, 8.57,4.64,27.84,0
Turk_Trakya5,10.68,4.87,1.4,0,18.29,23.72,2.52,0,6 .8,3.99,27.28,0
Turk_Trakya6,8.86,2.49,1.51,0,21.21,26.92,0.18,0.2 3,7.65,5.67,25.28,0
Turk_Trakya7,10.8,2.06,0.24,0,19.46,25.26,0.64,0,9 .51,4.92,27.11,0
Turk_Trakya8,10.55,3.17,0.09,0,19.72,25.81,0,0,8.1 5,3.91,28.6,0
Turk_Trakya9,8.12,4.27,2.26,0,23.66,24.53,0.7,0,7. 45,1.5,27.5,0
Turk_Trakya10,8.67,3.36,0.48,0,21.63,25.32,0.12,0, 7.39,4.03,28.99,0
Turk_Trakya11,11.01,5.32,0,0,16,25.15,0,0,7.93,6.3 1,28.26,0
Turk_Trakya12,8.45,3.76,2.12,0,21.58,22.7,2.36,0,1 0.43,3.68,24.82,0.1
Turk_Trakya13,7.7,5.22,0.98,0,20.76,25.55,2.04,0,7 .42,2.7,27.61,0
Turk_Trakya14,6.86,4.88,1.16,1.1,19.59,25.01,0,0,1 1.09,1.67,28.64,0
Turk_Trakya15,8.96,6.29,2.15,0.39,17.49,25.84,0,0, 7.53,4.94,26.4,0
Turk_Trakya16,8.38,3.85,0,0.37,21.33,25.31,0,0,7.3 2,5.43,28.01,0
Turk_Trakya17,8.12,3.21,0.22,0,21.61,26.17,0,0,7.4 4,6.15,26.53,0.55
Turk_Trakya18,7.32,2.81,1.05,3.07,23.49,28.3,0,0,9 ,1.75,23.21,0
Turk_Trakya19,10.62,3.61,1.77,0,17.73,21.49,2.24,0 .64,9.13,5.21,27.16,0
Turk_Trakya20,10.83,3.68,0,2.15,20.61,21.08,0,0,9, 1.26,31.38,0
Turk_Trakya21,5.95,4.72,0.26,0.07,17.16,28.07,2.71 ,0,9.91,3.41,27.7,0
Turk_Trakya22,7.94,3.79,0.58,0.72,20.51,22.9,0.07, 0,9.22,2.99,31.17,0
Turk_Trakya23,10.06,4.88,2.1,0,17.38,26.73,0.48,0, 7.82,3.17,27.38,0
Turk_Trakya24,7.48,1.38,1.99,0.64,23.81,26.84,0,0, 6.47,0.95,30.43,0
Turk_Trakya25,9.84,0.34,0.46,0.14,22.6,32.16,1.04, 0,7.9,1.66,23.86,0
Turk_Trakya26,8.78,1.59,0.89,0.12,21.07,30.16,1.2, 0,8.41,0.64,27.13,0
Turk_Trakya27,9.85,2.8,1.44,0.9,22.2,22.4,0.82,0.7 6,7.81,1.84,29.48,0.2
Turk_Trakya28,8.97,4.22,1.07,0.74,22.26,23.62,0,0, 7.75,1.38,29.99,0
Turk_Trakya29,7.46,2.06,1.19,0,23.03,23.85,0,0,8.6 8,1.9,31.84,0
Turk_Trakya30,8.56,4.59,0.44,0,21.5,21.39,3.03,0,6 .98,4.39,29.12,0
Turk_Trakya31,9.9,4.51,1.28,0,21.9,22.97,0.99,0,7. 22,3.63,27.61,0
Turk_Trakya32,10.94,2.63,0,0,21.09,28.72,1.98,0,8. 01,1.35,23.2,0
Turk_Trakya33,9.09,3.63,0.87,0,22.06,23.62,0,0.46, 5.97,5.01,29.3,0
Turk_Trakya34,6.99,5.79,1.66,0.47,20.33,24.56,0.74 ,0,7.41,2.96,29.08,0
Turk_Trakya35,9.92,5.77,0,0.74,17.33,24.74,1.69,0. 1,7.88,3.58,28.23,0
Turk_Trakya36,5.09,3.35,0.19,0,21.71,28.48,1.98,0, 8.78,3.3,27.1,0
Turk_Trakya37,7.63,3.85,0.18,0.1,18.64,24.33,1.29, 0.27,8.88,6.33,28.48,0
Turk_Trakya38,9.1,2.51,2.02,1.16,20.84,26.29,0.85, 0,7.04,2.48,27.59,0
Turk_Trakya39,7.62,2.45,1.39,2.17,20.27,28.68,0.48 ,0,7.8,0.79,28.35,0
Turk_Trakya40,7.76,5.62,1.58,0,17.83,26.6,0.05,0,8 .39,4.95,27.22,0
Turk_Trakya41,9.88,4.46,1.3,0,21.89,22.95,0.99,0,7 .23,3.72,27.58,0
Turk_Trakya42,6.81,2.88,0.82,0.47,20.89,29.49,0,0, 6.41,2.69,29.48,0
Turk_Trakya43,7.32,1.09,0.65,1.46,23.78,28.55,0,0, 6.55,2.66,27.95,0
Turk_Trakya44,6.93,3.8,2.64,1.08,20.8,27.78,1.57,0 ,7.02,0.91,27.45,0
Turk_Trakya45,7.31,4.9,0,0,23.86,27.33,1.13,0.24,7 .3,1.81,26.12,0
Turk_Trakya46,9.25,3.79,1.13,0,23.06,24.66,0.14,0, 7.68,3.4,26.89,0
Turk_Trakya47,7.57,3.89,0.28,0.52,27.62,22.79,0.14 ,0,6.4,2.79,28,0
Turk_Trakya48,11.25,2.7,0,0,21.63,22.64,0.6,0,8.88 ,1.85,30.45,0
Turk_Trakya49,9.57,1.67,1.48,0,22.14,27.74,2.16,0. 18,6.26,0,28.78,0
Turk_Trakya50,4.99,3.77,2.55,0.17,19.79,26.74,0,0. 35,8.48,1.82,31.01,0.34
Turk_Trakya51,6.78,4.43,0,0.27,26.03,30.43,1.17,0, 5.96,0.25,24.68,0
Turk_Trakya52,6.87,2.05,1.71,0,25.94,25.91,0.58,0. 07,7.99,0,29.26,0
Turk_Trakya53,9.65,3.46,1.29,1.51,21.15,25.53,2.09 ,0.26,7.6,0,26.87,0.61
Turk_Trakya54,7.44,3.89,3.15,0.68,20.02,31.08,0,0, 8.68,0.24,24.83,0
Turk_Trakya55,4.92,2.19,1.49,0,24.1,30.53,0,0,8.42 ,0.98,27.34,0
Turk_Trakya56,11.44,8,1,0,19.69,21.8,2.95,0.24,7.4 8,3.79,23.61,0
Turk_Trakya57,9.55,6.27,0.63,0,20.59,22.23,2.31,0. 41,8.88,2.64,26.47,0
Turk_Trakya58,9.4,8.11,0.49,0,15.73,24.3,1.37,0.48 ,7.16,6.47,26.49,0
Turk_Trakya59,8.89,5.08,3.66,0,18.02,22.17,0.55,0, 7.07,4.84,29.72,0
Turk_Trakya60,6.68,3.86,1.01,0,26.82,26.29,0,0,6.9 4,2.19,26.22,0
Turk_Deliorman1,7.8,3.93,0.42,0,22.94,32.53,0.68,0 .3,3.78,3.48,24.14,0
Turk_Deliorman2,8.6,1.1,0,0,22.55,30.17,1.37,0.81, 3.9,4.05,27.42,0.05
Turk_Deliorman3,8.26,6.03,0.66,0,20.41,29.26,0,0,8 .33,0,27.06,0
Turk_Deliorman4,7.44,4.59,0.37,0,19.65,29.85,0,0,7 .99,1.91,28.01,0.19
Turk_Deliorman5,8.06,3.36,0.74,0.91,22.02,30.13,0. 43,0.31,6.58,1.37,26.09,0
Turk_Deliorman6,6.71,2.99,0.98,1.14,21.6,31.38,1.1 7,0,5.87,1.21,26.92,0
Turk_Deliorman7,6.24,2.7,0.11,0,23.86,27.45,0,0,9. 56,3.48,26.52,0.08
Turk_Deliorman8,7.29,3.26,0.85,1.33,20.96,28.02,0. 3,0,6.1,2.95,28.95,0
Turk_Deliorman9,9.11,2.37,1.27,0,20.66,30.06,0.99, 0.3,6.41,5.71,23.02,0.11
Turk_Deliorman10,6.81,2.88,0.82,0.47,20.89,29.49,0 ,0,6.41,2.69,29.48,0
Turk_Deliorman11,7.9,2.94,0,1.39,19.87,30.2,0.82,0 ,8.38,2.11,26.4,0
Turk_Deliorman12,6.77,2.33,0,2.8,21.57,29.46,0,0.0 5,9.32,2.67,25.03,0
Turk_Deliorman13,7.1,2.38,0,1.95,20.88,27.21,0,0,9 .4,4.07,27.01,0
Turk_Deliorman14,6.18,3.34,1.07,0.3,21.47,28.33,1. 34,0,8.17,3.99,25.82,0
Turk_Deliorman15,9.25,3.79,1.13,0,23.06,24.66,0.14 ,0,7.68,3.4,27.89,0
Turk_Deliorman16,9.53,0.63,0,0,21.05,30.4,0.57,0.0 6,7.1,4.46,26.19,0
Turk_Deliorman17,8.95,2.06,0.37,0,21.45,27.71,1.22 ,0.27,7.29,3.36,27.32,0
Turk_Deliorman18,9.61,2.57,0.94,1.78,18.06,25.98,0 .36,0.18,9.36,4.22,26.94,0
Turk_Deliorman19,7.51,3.87,1.28,0.71,20.84,30.37,1 .83,0,6.67,1.98,24.96,0
Turk_Deliorman20,9.96,2.99,0,0.36,24.49,31.7,0.98, 0,4.43,1.25,23.84,0
Turk_Deliorman21,9.14,2.78,0,0.09,25.76,30.41,0.79 ,0,5.47,4.55,20.99,0
Turk_Deliorman22,10.1,3.73,0,0.58,24.59,30.18,0,0, 6.96,2.95,20.9,0
Turk_Deliorman23,7,2.38,0.14,0.57,22.88,28.78,0.09 ,0.19,7.74,4.89,25.23,0.13
Turk_Deliorman24,7.19,3.19,0.88,0,21.65,29.46,1.84 ,0,7.25,3.18,25.37,0
Turk_Deliorman25,7.06,3.04,1.19,0.42,23.08,29.1,0, 0,6.4,2.15,28.58,0
Turk_Deliorman26,5.14,3.16,0,0.72,23.55,27.88,1.4, 0.39,7.74,1.14,28.9,0
Turk_Deliorman27,7.29,3.98,0.72,0.23,22.01,29.81,1 .09,0,4.52,2,28.35,0
Turk_Deliorman28,8.72,5.09,0,0,22.57,29.01,0.77,0, 5.93,4.79,23.09,0
Turk_Deliorman29,8.95,3.41,1,0.36,20.48,28.12,1.2, 0,7.14,2.67,26.6,0.06
Turk_Deliorman30,8.78,3.92,1.07,1.67,23.47,27.38,1 .68,0,4.79,1.22,26.04,0
Turk_Deliorman31,9.33,4.24,0.53,0.34,23.27,27.07,0 ,0,7.13,3.15,24.93,0
Turk_Deliorman32,8.47,2.94,1.07,0,20.16,29.05,0.08 ,0,6.61,3.99,27.63,0
Turk_Deliorman33,9.27,3.76,1,0,19.96,28.01,0.47,0, 7.72,3.67,26.15,0
Turk_Deliorman34,7.58,2.47,1.6,0,25.91,24.09,1.38, 0,7.23,3.23,26.5,0
Turk_Deliorman35,5.59,1.63,0.3,1.23,27.19,28.39,1. 42,0,5.63,1.2,27.43,0
Turk_Deliorman36,5.28,1.66,0,2.59,24.14,30.06,0.9, 0,7.51,0,27.86,0
Turk_Deliorman37,7.37,0.35,0,1.25,24.37,30.25,0,0, 7.54,0.81,27.98,0.07
Turk_Deliorman38,4.36,0.88,0.89,0,26.9,32.8,0.79,0 ,6.99,0.19,26.19,0
Turk_Deliorman39,7.46,1.49,1.44,0.74,22.33,28.11,1 .74,0,8.33,1.53,26.82,0
Turk_Deliorman40,6.43,3.32,1.46,0,20.95,31.85,0.99 ,0,5.59,2.2,27.21,0
Turk_Deliorman41,7.35,3.98,0,0.37,19.98,27.94,1.94 ,0,7.65,5.24,25.55,0
Turk_Deliorman42,7.37,7.67,0,1.68,17.57,29.36,1.79 ,0,5.5,6.29,22.78,0
Turk_Deliorman43,9.87,4.55,0,1.64,20.27,29.69,0.37 ,0,7.12,0.3,26.18,0
Turk_Deliorman44,7.56,2.4,0.94,0,18.52,27.81,0,0,7 .44,4.05,31.2,0.08
Turk_Deliorman45,7.05,2.06,1.39,2.05,20.34,26.9,0, 0.21,10.73,2.35,25.95,0.97
Turk_Deliorman46,9.74,0.89,0,2.39,19.39,27.31,0.17 ,0,7.06,4.54,27.99,0.5
Turk_Deliorman47,7.67,3.76,0.44,1.01,22.33,28.02,0 .87,0.82,7.25,0.44,27.4,0
Turk_Deliorman48,6.49,0.9,0.87,0,24.46,36,0.57,0,6 .48,0,24.24,0
Turk_Deliorman49,9.46,3.46,0,0.34,20.91,27.15,0.06 ,0,8.64,3.24,26.73,0
Turk_Deliorman50,9.66,1.96,0,0,21.11,29.38,1.47,0. 23,7.62,2.83,25.74,0
Turk_Deliorman51,12.11,4.49,0,1.67,16.92,23.23,3.3 ,0.27,6.53,6.88,24.61,0
Turk_Deliorman52,8.22,4.42,0,0.92,19.75,25.1,1.99, 0,6.83,2.9,29.01,0.86
Turk_Deliorman53,9.88,4.46,0,1.65,20.28,29.7,0.37, 0,7.13,0.36,26.17,0
Turk_Deliorman54,10.57,3.41,0.47,0,21.21,26.22,2.6 9,0.26,7.92,2.21,25.03,0
Turk_Deliorman55,5.68,3.06,2.62,0,18.87,25.91,0.98 ,0,9.15,2.42,31.31,0
Turk_Deliorman56,10.47,3.2,0.97,0,18.98,24.79,0.96 ,0,7.35,4.45,28.82,0
Turk_Deliorman57,8.25,4.23,0.99,0.4,20.48,30.18,2. 12,0,7.24,2.09,23.98,0
Turk_Deliorman58,6.6,2.8,1.24,0.65,22.94,27.65,1.2 9,0,7.83,1.49,27.5,0
Turk_Deliorman59,7.87,2.93,0,1.39,19.86,30.18,0.79 ,0,8.38,2.19,26.41,0
Turk_Deliorman60,8.95,2.06,0.37,0,21.45,27.71,1.22 ,0.27,7.29,3.36,27.32,0
Turk_Deliorman61,10.41,4.57,0,1.25,20.54,26.59,1.6 5,0,6.17,2.57,26.23,0
Turk_Deliorman62,6.59,2.1,0,0,23.84,27.28,2.6,0,7. 82,1.56,28.2,0
Turk_Deliorman63,8.09,1.98,0.28,0.52,23.8,29.37,1. 51,0,6.01,4.72,23.73,0
Turk_Deliorman64,8.98,3.06,0,0,22.68,25.73,0.99,0, 7.14,2.76,27.69,0.9
Turk_Deliorman65,7,4.37,1.12,0.48,22.39,28.51,0.81 ,0,4.39,4.33,26.61,0
Turk_Deliorman66,7.31,1.7,0.39,0,24.47,29.77,1.08, 0,8.13,1.56,25.59,0
Turk_Deliorman67,9.15,4.21,0,1.24,21.25,28.2,1.9,0 ,5.83,0.24,27.98,0
Turk_Deliorman68,9.02,4.01,0.25,0.91,18.1,31.11,0. 99,0,7.9,2.2,25.5,0
Turk_Deliorman69,8.17,1.91,1,2.97,19.47,27.34,1.5, 0,8.69,0.55,28.39,0
Turk_Deliorman70,7.63,2.17,2.46,0.18,20.45,31.56,0 .46,0,6.22,0.27,28.6,0
Turk_Deliorman71,8.47,3.8,3,1.14,21.89,27.92,0,0,4 .94,0.71,27.87,0.25
Turk_Deliorman72,8.41,3.23,1.16,0,18,29.5,1.29,0,5 .96,3.23,29.15,0.07
Turk_Deliorman73,8.05,3.07,0,1.91,21.25,31.84,2.6, 0,6.17,0.41,24.69,0
Turk_Deliorman74,9.4,3.48,1.89,0,19.41,27.54,0.53, 0,8.35,2.12,27.28,0
Turk_Makedonya1,7.89,1.54,0.71,0,23.36,26.95,1.31, 0,6.52,2.79,28.91,0
Turk_Makedonya2,5.9,1.33,2.25,0,24.61,31.74,0,0,7. 71,0.7,25.77,0
Turk_Makedonya3,7.84,1.78,0.08,0.08,23.37,31.99,1. 9,0.17,6.16,1.25,25.36,0
Turk_Makedonya4,7.24,2.48,2.68,0,24.78,30.5,0.8,0. 23,7.12,0.7,23.44,0
Turk_Makedonya5,4.96,1.86,0.24,0.95,26.93,29.57,0, 0,8.07,0,27.41,0
Turk_Makedonya6,4.86,1.2,0,1.11,23.28,30.01,0,2.14 ,9.27,0.45,26.31,1.39
Turk_Makedonya7,4.55,2.54,1.22,0,23.27,30.64,0.57, 0,4.85,1.74,30.62,0
Turk_Makedonya8,5.75,2.76,0.27,0,25.11,29.94,0.76, 0,9.19,1.35,24.88,0
Turk_Makedonya9,8.54,2.97,2.14,1.77,23.79,17.04,0, 0.94,9.18,0.38,33.05,0.18
Turk_Makedonya10,6.4,0.52,0.45,0.18,26.06,27.11,0, 0,8.33,0.07,30.72,0.15
Turk_Makedonya11,6.03,1.12,0,1.07,26.27,26.41,0,0. 11,8.33,0,30.48,0.2
Turk_Makedonya12,7.72,2.23,1.38,1.34,21.58,27.24,1 .29,0,8.02,0.63,28.56,0
Turk_Makedonya13,6.37,0,0.79,1.37,25.19,25.82,0,0. 35,9.45,0,30.5,0
Turk_Makedonya14,5.6,1.96,1.55,0.45,31.95,23.18,0, 0,8.75,0,26.57,0
Turk_Makedonya15,7.66,1.44,0.65,0,22.53,21.74,0.37 ,0.42,8.72,1.65,34.82,0
Turk_Makedonya16,9.03,2.5,1.69,0.1,21.33,21.93,2.0 5,0,7.38,2.49,31.5,0
Turk_Makedonya17,8.59,2.16,1.17,0,22.15,20.94,0,0, 11.09,2.97,30.91,0
Good job as always! So Trakya is the most Mongoloid while Makedonya is the least.
Please have all the outdated/redundant pops deleted from Vahaduo.
Fedora
10-16-2020, 12:35 PM
Good job as always! So Trakya is the most Mongoloid while Makedonya is the least.
Please have all the outdated/redundant pops deleted from Vahaduo.
Might change if we would get actual Yörük results from that Macedonia in the mountain villages who lived more isolated ;/
Kaspias
10-16-2020, 12:58 PM
Might change if we would get actual Yörük results from that Macedonia in the mountain villages who lived more isolated ;/
I doubt so. People who live under Yoruk self-identification are not more than 5.000 while the Macedonia component here covers roughly 2 or more million people. In addition, I would not expect outlier results from these Yoruks as well. They would probably score as much as Rhodopean Turks who are 9% EE avg.
But it would be really interesting to see their results.
Bender1999
10-16-2020, 12:59 PM
Are these Turks who still live there?
Kaspias
10-16-2020, 01:01 PM
Are these Turks who still live there?
Most of them live in Turkey. Some still live there, some in Europe and some in the USA. It is mixed.
I doubt so. People who live under Yoruk self-identification are not more than 5.000 while the Macedonia component here covers roughly 2 or more million people. In addition, I would not expect outlier results from these Yoruks as well. They would probably score as much as Rhodopean Turks who are 9% EE avg.
But it would be really interesting to see their results.
Are there any results from Atatürks city/region of origin? Or with similar background.
Fedora
10-16-2020, 01:19 PM
Are there any results from Atatürks city/region of origin?
His mother was from Selanik, though it will be similar to the Thessalonika average, but his father might be 3% at bext, lots of torbesh muslims there, even today they are self-turkifieing themself and learning turkish. His village has a turkish name. Look the results of Turks from Kircaali who live next to Pomaks, they are heavily pomakified genetically and barely show turkic admixture.
His grandfathers village
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ae9S9SXDV2g
Kaspias
10-16-2020, 01:21 PM
Are there any results from Atatürks city/region of origin? Or with similar background.
Makedonya16 and Makedonya17 is from Langaza, where Ataturk's mother was born.
I don't have any kit from Kocacik where his father was born. But Makedonya14 is from Manastir and Makedonya15 is from Ohrid.
Turk_Makedonya14 5.6 1.96 1.55 0.45 31.95 23.18 0 0 8.75 0 26.57 0
Turk_Makedonya15 7.66 1.44 0.65 0 22.53 21.74 0.37 0.42 8.72 1.65 34.82 0
Turk_Makedonya16 9.03 2.5 1.69 0.1 21.33 21.93 2.05 0 7.38 2.49 31.5 0
Turk_Makedonya17 8.59 2.16 1.17 0 22.15 20.94 0 0 11.09 2.97 30.91 0
War Chef
10-16-2020, 01:30 PM
Good research.
I wonder if the Gedrosia and Caucasus in Deliorman + Trax Turks comes from Ottomans or from Steppic Alan populations?
Thracian
10-16-2020, 02:21 PM
Awesome work.
I played with my coordinates a bit. I just used FTDNA's coordinates, maybe I will try 23andMe's as well.
Target: Thracian
Distance: 155.6540% / 1.55654015 | ADC: 0.25x
51.8 Turk_Makedonya
19.6 Turk_Trakya
13.0 Italy_Lazio
7.8 Greek_Central
3.0 Iran_Bandari
2.6 Sindhi
1.6 Tajik_Panjshir&Kapisa
0.6 Balkan_Gypsy
Target: Thracian
Distance: 138.2277% / 1.38227689 | ADC: 0.25x RC
57.0 Turk_Makedonya
14.2 Italy_Lazio
10.0 Greek_Central
9.6 Turk_Trakya
4.0 Tajik_Panjshir&Kapisa
2.8 Sindhi
2.4 Iran_Bandari
My actual ancestry from Macedonia is 1/4. So, probably due to my lower EE percentage my results shift to Turk Macedonia. I removed it,
Target: Thracian
Distance: 161.2945% / 1.61294526 | ADC: 0.25x
40.8 Turk_Trakya
40.0 Greek_Thrace
9.0 Italy_Lazio
4.0 Pathan
1.8 Iran_Bandari
1.6 Yagnobi
1.4 Greek_Peloponnese
1.2 Balkan_Gypsy
0.2 Cambodians
Target: Thracian
Distance: 124.8237% / 1.24823675 | ADC: 0.25x RC
56.8 Greek_Thrace
24.8 Turk_Trakya
6.2 Italy_Lazio
5.2 Pathan
4.6 Yagnobi
1.4 Iran_Bandari
1.0 Cambodians
RC is recalculated. I just posted it to see difference between normal calculation and recalculation on regular vahaduo.
I also compared myself with them. I excluded Tatars from Crimea and Gagauzs.
https://i.ibb.co/1bxhQ4L/k12bBT.png
Kaspias
10-16-2020, 04:06 PM
Good research.
I wonder if the Gedrosia and Caucasus in Deliorman + Trax Turks comes from Ottomans or from Steppic Alan populations?
Ottomans. Bulgarians have lesser.
Awesome work.
I played with my coordinates a bit. I just used FTDNA's coordinates, maybe I will try 23andMe's as well.
Target: Thracian
Distance: 155.6540% / 1.55654015 | ADC: 0.25x
51.8 Turk_Makedonya
19.6 Turk_Trakya
13.0 Italy_Lazio
7.8 Greek_Central
3.0 Iran_Bandari
2.6 Sindhi
1.6 Tajik_Panjshir&Kapisa
0.6 Balkan_Gypsy
Target: Thracian
Distance: 138.2277% / 1.38227689 | ADC: 0.25x RC
57.0 Turk_Makedonya
14.2 Italy_Lazio
10.0 Greek_Central
9.6 Turk_Trakya
4.0 Tajik_Panjshir&Kapisa
2.8 Sindhi
2.4 Iran_Bandari
My actual ancestry from Macedonia is 1/4. So, probably due to my lower EE percentage my results shift to Turk Macedonia. I removed it,
Target: Thracian
Distance: 161.2945% / 1.61294526 | ADC: 0.25x
40.8 Turk_Trakya
40.0 Greek_Thrace
9.0 Italy_Lazio
4.0 Pathan
1.8 Iran_Bandari
1.6 Yagnobi
1.4 Greek_Peloponnese
1.2 Balkan_Gypsy
0.2 Cambodians
Target: Thracian
Distance: 124.8237% / 1.24823675 | ADC: 0.25x RC
56.8 Greek_Thrace
24.8 Turk_Trakya
6.2 Italy_Lazio
5.2 Pathan
4.6 Yagnobi
1.4 Iran_Bandari
1.0 Cambodians
RC is recalculated. I just posted it to see difference between normal calculation and recalculation on regular vahaduo.
I also compared myself with them. I excluded Tatars from Crimea and Gagauzs.
https://i.ibb.co/1bxhQ4L/k12bBT.png
You may try to run with individuals as well. I will be providing information about the sample locations.
Turk_Trakya:1,7.73,4.37,1.4,0.3,18.4,24.7,2.08,0,6 .97,4.92,29.14,0
Turk_Trakya:2,8.16,2.92,0.29,0,22.75,25.92,0.36,0, 7.18,4.53,27.65,0.23
Turk_Trakya:3,8.94,4.5,0,0,18.84,26,1.32,0,7.24,2. 89,30.26,0
Turk_Trakya:4,6.33,5.8,0.24,0.87,20.32,25.28,0.1,0 ,8.57,4.64,27.84,0
Turk_Trakya:5,10.68,4.87,1.4,0,18.29,23.72,2.52,0, 6.8,3.99,27.28,0
Turk_Trakya:6,8.86,2.49,1.51,0,21.21,26.92,0.18,0. 23,7.65,5.67,25.28,0
Turk_Trakya:7,10.8,2.06,0.24,0,19.46,25.26,0.64,0, 9.51,4.92,27.11,0
Turk_Trakya:8,10.55,3.17,0.09,0,19.72,25.81,0,0,8. 15,3.91,28.6,0
Turk_Trakya:9,8.12,4.27,2.26,0,23.66,24.53,0.7,0,7 .45,1.5,27.5,0
Turk_Trakya:10,8.67,3.36,0.48,0,21.63,25.32,0.12,0 ,7.39,4.03,28.99,0
Turk_Trakya:11,11.01,5.32,0,0,16,25.15,0,0,7.93,6. 31,28.26,0
Turk_Trakya:12,8.45,3.76,2.12,0,21.58,22.7,2.36,0, 10.43,3.68,24.82,0.1
Turk_Trakya:13,7.7,5.22,0.98,0,20.76,25.55,2.04,0, 7.42,2.7,27.61,0
Turk_Trakya:14,6.86,4.88,1.16,1.1,19.59,25.01,0,0, 11.09,1.67,28.64,0
Turk_Trakya:15,8.96,6.29,2.15,0.39,17.49,25.84,0,0 ,7.53,4.94,26.4,0
Turk_Trakya:16,8.38,3.85,0,0.37,21.33,25.31,0,0,7. 32,5.43,28.01,0
Turk_Trakya:17,8.12,3.21,0.22,0,21.61,26.17,0,0,7. 44,6.15,26.53,0.55
Turk_Trakya:18,7.32,2.81,1.05,3.07,23.49,28.3,0,0, 9,1.75,23.21,0
Turk_Trakya:19,10.62,3.61,1.77,0,17.73,21.49,2.24, 0.64,9.13,5.21,27.16,0
Turk_Trakya:20,10.83,3.68,0,2.15,20.61,21.08,0,0,9 ,1.26,31.38,0
Turk_Trakya:21,5.95,4.72,0.26,0.07,17.16,28.07,2.7 1,0,9.91,3.41,27.7,0
Turk_Trakya:22,7.94,3.79,0.58,0.72,20.51,22.9,0.07 ,0,9.22,2.99,31.17,0
Turk_Trakya:23,10.06,4.88,2.1,0,17.38,26.73,0.48,0 ,7.82,3.17,27.38,0
Turk_Trakya:24,7.48,1.38,1.99,0.64,23.81,26.84,0,0 ,6.47,0.95,30.43,0
Turk_Trakya:25,9.84,0.34,0.46,0.14,22.6,32.16,1.04 ,0,7.9,1.66,23.86,0
Turk_Trakya:26,8.78,1.59,0.89,0.12,21.07,30.16,1.2 ,0,8.41,0.64,27.13,0
Turk_Trakya:27,9.85,2.8,1.44,0.9,22.2,22.4,0.82,0. 76,7.81,1.84,29.48,0.2
Turk_Trakya:28,8.97,4.22,1.07,0.74,22.26,23.62,0,0 ,7.75,1.38,29.99,0
Turk_Trakya:29,7.46,2.06,1.19,0,23.03,23.85,0,0,8. 68,1.9,31.84,0
Turk_Trakya:30,8.56,4.59,0.44,0,21.5,21.39,3.03,0, 6.98,4.39,29.12,0
Turk_Trakya:31,9.9,4.51,1.28,0,21.9,22.97,0.99,0,7 .22,3.63,27.61,0
Turk_Trakya:32,10.94,2.63,0,0,21.09,28.72,1.98,0,8 .01,1.35,23.2,0
Turk_Trakya:33,9.09,3.63,0.87,0,22.06,23.62,0,0.46 ,5.97,5.01,29.3,0
Turk_Trakya:34,6.99,5.79,1.66,0.47,20.33,24.56,0.7 4,0,7.41,2.96,29.08,0
Turk_Trakya:35,9.92,5.77,0,0.74,17.33,24.74,1.69,0 .1,7.88,3.58,28.23,0
Turk_Trakya:36,5.09,3.35,0.19,0,21.71,28.48,1.98,0 ,8.78,3.3,27.1,0
Turk_Trakya:37,7.63,3.85,0.18,0.1,18.64,24.33,1.29 ,0.27,8.88,6.33,28.48,0
Turk_Trakya:38,9.1,2.51,2.02,1.16,20.84,26.29,0.85 ,0,7.04,2.48,27.59,0
Turk_Trakya:39,7.62,2.45,1.39,2.17,20.27,28.68,0.4 8,0,7.8,0.79,28.35,0
Turk_Trakya:40,7.76,5.62,1.58,0,17.83,26.6,0.05,0, 8.39,4.95,27.22,0
Turk_Trakya:41,9.88,4.46,1.3,0,21.89,22.95,0.99,0, 7.23,3.72,27.58,0
Turk_Trakya:42,6.81,2.88,0.82,0.47,20.89,29.49,0,0 ,6.41,2.69,29.48,0
Turk_Trakya:43,7.32,1.09,0.65,1.46,23.78,28.55,0,0 ,6.55,2.66,27.95,0
Turk_Trakya:44,6.93,3.8,2.64,1.08,20.8,27.78,1.57, 0,7.02,0.91,27.45,0
Turk_Trakya:45,7.31,4.9,0,0,23.86,27.33,1.13,0.24, 7.3,1.81,26.12,0
Turk_Trakya:46,9.25,3.79,1.13,0,23.06,24.66,0.14,0 ,7.68,3.4,26.89,0
Turk_Trakya:47,7.57,3.89,0.28,0.52,27.62,22.79,0.1 4,0,6.4,2.79,28,0
Turk_Trakya:48,11.25,2.7,0,0,21.63,22.64,0.6,0,8.8 8,1.85,30.45,0
Turk_Trakya:49,9.57,1.67,1.48,0,22.14,27.74,2.16,0 .18,6.26,0,28.78,0
Turk_Trakya:50,4.99,3.77,2.55,0.17,19.79,26.74,0,0 .35,8.48,1.82,31.01,0.34
Turk_Trakya:51,6.78,4.43,0,0.27,26.03,30.43,1.17,0 ,5.96,0.25,24.68,0
Turk_Trakya:52,6.87,2.05,1.71,0,25.94,25.91,0.58,0 .07,7.99,0,29.26,0
Turk_Trakya:53,9.65,3.46,1.29,1.51,21.15,25.53,2.0 9,0.26,7.6,0,26.87,0.61
Turk_Trakya:54,7.44,3.89,3.15,0.68,20.02,31.08,0,0 ,8.68,0.24,24.83,0
Turk_Trakya:55,4.92,2.19,1.49,0,24.1,30.53,0,0,8.4 2,0.98,27.34,0
Turk_Trakya:56,11.44,8,1,0,19.69,21.8,2.95,0.24,7. 48,3.79,23.61,0
Turk_Trakya:57,9.55,6.27,0.63,0,20.59,22.23,2.31,0 .41,8.88,2.64,26.47,0
Turk_Trakya:58,9.4,8.11,0.49,0,15.73,24.3,1.37,0.4 8,7.16,6.47,26.49,0
Turk_Trakya:59,8.89,5.08,3.66,0,18.02,22.17,0.55,0 ,7.07,4.84,29.72,0
Turk_Trakya:60,6.68,3.86,1.01,0,26.82,26.29,0,0,6. 94,2.19,26.22,0
Turk_Deliorman:1,7.8,3.93,0.42,0,22.94,32.53,0.68, 0.3,3.78,3.48,24.14,0
Turk_Deliorman:2,8.6,1.1,0,0,22.55,30.17,1.37,0.81 ,3.9,4.05,27.42,0.05
Turk_Deliorman:3,8.26,6.03,0.66,0,20.41,29.26,0,0, 8.33,0,27.06,0
Turk_Deliorman:4,7.44,4.59,0.37,0,19.65,29.85,0,0, 7.99,1.91,28.01,0.19
Turk_Deliorman:5,8.06,3.36,0.74,0.91,22.02,30.13,0 .43,0.31,6.58,1.37,26.09,0
Turk_Deliorman:6,6.71,2.99,0.98,1.14,21.6,31.38,1. 17,0,5.87,1.21,26.92,0
Turk_Deliorman:7,6.24,2.7,0.11,0,23.86,27.45,0,0,9 .56,3.48,26.52,0.08
Turk_Deliorman:8,7.29,3.26,0.85,1.33,20.96,28.02,0 .3,0,6.1,2.95,28.95,0
Turk_Deliorman:9,9.11,2.37,1.27,0,20.66,30.06,0.99 ,0.3,6.41,5.71,23.02,0.11
Turk_Deliorman:10,6.81,2.88,0.82,0.47,20.89,29.49, 0,0,6.41,2.69,29.48,0
Turk_Deliorman:11,7.9,2.94,0,1.39,19.87,30.2,0.82, 0,8.38,2.11,26.4,0
Turk_Deliorman:12,6.77,2.33,0,2.8,21.57,29.46,0,0. 05,9.32,2.67,25.03,0
Turk_Deliorman:13,7.1,2.38,0,1.95,20.88,27.21,0,0, 9.4,4.07,27.01,0
Turk_Deliorman:14,6.18,3.34,1.07,0.3,21.47,28.33,1 .34,0,8.17,3.99,25.82,0
Turk_Deliorman:15,9.25,3.79,1.13,0,23.06,24.66,0.1 4,0,7.68,3.4,27.89,0
Turk_Deliorman:16,9.53,0.63,0,0,21.05,30.4,0.57,0. 06,7.1,4.46,26.19,0
Turk_Deliorman:17,8.95,2.06,0.37,0,21.45,27.71,1.2 2,0.27,7.29,3.36,27.32,0
Turk_Deliorman:18,9.61,2.57,0.94,1.78,18.06,25.98, 0.36,0.18,9.36,4.22,26.94,0
Turk_Deliorman:19,7.51,3.87,1.28,0.71,20.84,30.37, 1.83,0,6.67,1.98,24.96,0
Turk_Deliorman:20,9.96,2.99,0,0.36,24.49,31.7,0.98 ,0,4.43,1.25,23.84,0
Turk_Deliorman:21,9.14,2.78,0,0.09,25.76,30.41,0.7 9,0,5.47,4.55,20.99,0
Turk_Deliorman:22,10.1,3.73,0,0.58,24.59,30.18,0,0 ,6.96,2.95,20.9,0
Turk_Deliorman:23,7,2.38,0.14,0.57,22.88,28.78,0.0 9,0.19,7.74,4.89,25.23,0.13
Turk_Deliorman:24,7.19,3.19,0.88,0,21.65,29.46,1.8 4,0,7.25,3.18,25.37,0
Turk_Deliorman:25,7.06,3.04,1.19,0.42,23.08,29.1,0 ,0,6.4,2.15,28.58,0
Turk_Deliorman:26,5.14,3.16,0,0.72,23.55,27.88,1.4 ,0.39,7.74,1.14,28.9,0
Turk_Deliorman:27,7.29,3.98,0.72,0.23,22.01,29.81, 1.09,0,4.52,2,28.35,0
Turk_Deliorman:28,8.72,5.09,0,0,22.57,29.01,0.77,0 ,5.93,4.79,23.09,0
Turk_Deliorman:29,8.95,3.41,1,0.36,20.48,28.12,1.2 ,0,7.14,2.67,26.6,0.06
Turk_Deliorman:30,8.78,3.92,1.07,1.67,23.47,27.38, 1.68,0,4.79,1.22,26.04,0
Turk_Deliorman:31,9.33,4.24,0.53,0.34,23.27,27.07, 0,0,7.13,3.15,24.93,0
Turk_Deliorman:32,8.47,2.94,1.07,0,20.16,29.05,0.0 8,0,6.61,3.99,27.63,0
Turk_Deliorman:33,9.27,3.76,1,0,19.96,28.01,0.47,0 ,7.72,3.67,26.15,0
Turk_Deliorman:34,7.58,2.47,1.6,0,25.91,24.09,1.38 ,0,7.23,3.23,26.5,0
Turk_Deliorman:35,5.59,1.63,0.3,1.23,27.19,28.39,1 .42,0,5.63,1.2,27.43,0
Turk_Deliorman:36,5.28,1.66,0,2.59,24.14,30.06,0.9 ,0,7.51,0,27.86,0
Turk_Deliorman:37,7.37,0.35,0,1.25,24.37,30.25,0,0 ,7.54,0.81,27.98,0.07
Turk_Deliorman:38,4.36,0.88,0.89,0,26.9,32.8,0.79, 0,6.99,0.19,26.19,0
Turk_Deliorman:39,7.46,1.49,1.44,0.74,22.33,28.11, 1.74,0,8.33,1.53,26.82,0
Turk_Deliorman:40,6.43,3.32,1.46,0,20.95,31.85,0.9 9,0,5.59,2.2,27.21,0
Turk_Deliorman:41,7.35,3.98,0,0.37,19.98,27.94,1.9 4,0,7.65,5.24,25.55,0
Turk_Deliorman:42,7.37,7.67,0,1.68,17.57,29.36,1.7 9,0,5.5,6.29,22.78,0
Turk_Deliorman:43,9.87,4.55,0,1.64,20.27,29.69,0.3 7,0,7.12,0.3,26.18,0
Turk_Deliorman:44,7.56,2.4,0.94,0,18.52,27.81,0,0, 7.44,4.05,31.2,0.08
Turk_Deliorman:45,7.05,2.06,1.39,2.05,20.34,26.9,0 ,0.21,10.73,2.35,25.95,0.97
Turk_Deliorman:46,9.74,0.89,0,2.39,19.39,27.31,0.1 7,0,7.06,4.54,27.99,0.5
Turk_Deliorman:47,7.67,3.76,0.44,1.01,22.33,28.02, 0.87,0.82,7.25,0.44,27.4,0
Turk_Deliorman:48,6.49,0.9,0.87,0,24.46,36,0.57,0, 6.48,0,24.24,0
Turk_Deliorman:49,9.46,3.46,0,0.34,20.91,27.15,0.0 6,0,8.64,3.24,26.73,0
Turk_Deliorman:50,9.66,1.96,0,0,21.11,29.38,1.47,0 .23,7.62,2.83,25.74,0
Turk_Deliorman:51,12.11,4.49,0,1.67,16.92,23.23,3. 3,0.27,6.53,6.88,24.61,0
Turk_Deliorman:52,8.22,4.42,0,0.92,19.75,25.1,1.99 ,0,6.83,2.9,29.01,0.86
Turk_Deliorman:53,9.88,4.46,0,1.65,20.28,29.7,0.37 ,0,7.13,0.36,26.17,0
Turk_Deliorman:54,10.57,3.41,0.47,0,21.21,26.22,2. 69,0.26,7.92,2.21,25.03,0
Turk_Deliorman:55,5.68,3.06,2.62,0,18.87,25.91,0.9 8,0,9.15,2.42,31.31,0
Turk_Deliorman:56,10.47,3.2,0.97,0,18.98,24.79,0.9 6,0,7.35,4.45,28.82,0
Turk_Deliorman:57,8.25,4.23,0.99,0.4,20.48,30.18,2 .12,0,7.24,2.09,23.98,0
Turk_Deliorman:58,6.6,2.8,1.24,0.65,22.94,27.65,1. 29,0,7.83,1.49,27.5,0
Turk_Deliorman:59,7.87,2.93,0,1.39,19.86,30.18,0.7 9,0,8.38,2.19,26.41,0
Turk_Deliorman:60,8.95,2.06,0.37,0,21.45,27.71,1.2 2,0.27,7.29,3.36,27.32,0
Turk_Deliorman:61,10.41,4.57,0,1.25,20.54,26.59,1. 65,0,6.17,2.57,26.23,0
Turk_Deliorman:62,6.59,2.1,0,0,23.84,27.28,2.6,0,7 .82,1.56,28.2,0
Turk_Deliorman:63,8.09,1.98,0.28,0.52,23.8,29.37,1 .51,0,6.01,4.72,23.73,0
Turk_Deliorman:64,8.98,3.06,0,0,22.68,25.73,0.99,0 ,7.14,2.76,27.69,0.9
Turk_Deliorman:65,7,4.37,1.12,0.48,22.39,28.51,0.8 1,0,4.39,4.33,26.61,0
Turk_Deliorman:66,7.31,1.7,0.39,0,24.47,29.77,1.08 ,0,8.13,1.56,25.59,0
Turk_Deliorman:67,9.15,4.21,0,1.24,21.25,28.2,1.9, 0,5.83,0.24,27.98,0
Turk_Deliorman:68,9.02,4.01,0.25,0.91,18.1,31.11,0 .99,0,7.9,2.2,25.5,0
Turk_Deliorman:69,8.17,1.91,1,2.97,19.47,27.34,1.5 ,0,8.69,0.55,28.39,0
Turk_Deliorman:70,7.63,2.17,2.46,0.18,20.45,31.56, 0.46,0,6.22,0.27,28.6,0
Turk_Deliorman:71,8.47,3.8,3,1.14,21.89,27.92,0,0, 4.94,0.71,27.87,0.25
Turk_Deliorman:72,8.41,3.23,1.16,0,18,29.5,1.29,0, 5.96,3.23,29.15,0.07
Turk_Deliorman:73,8.05,3.07,0,1.91,21.25,31.84,2.6 ,0,6.17,0.41,24.69,0
Turk_Deliorman:74,9.4,3.48,1.89,0,19.41,27.54,0.53 ,0,8.35,2.12,27.28,0
Turk_Makedonya:1,7.89,1.54,0.71,0,23.36,26.95,1.31 ,0,6.52,2.79,28.91,0
Turk_Makedonya:2,5.9,1.33,2.25,0,24.61,31.74,0,0,7 .71,0.7,25.77,0
Turk_Makedonya:3,7.84,1.78,0.08,0.08,23.37,31.99,1 .9,0.17,6.16,1.25,25.36,0
Turk_Makedonya:4,7.24,2.48,2.68,0,24.78,30.5,0.8,0 .23,7.12,0.7,23.44,0
Turk_Makedonya:5,4.96,1.86,0.24,0.95,26.93,29.57,0 ,0,8.07,0,27.41,0
Turk_Makedonya:6,4.86,1.2,0,1.11,23.28,30.01,0,2.1 4,9.27,0.45,26.31,1.39
Turk_Makedonya:7,4.55,2.54,1.22,0,23.27,30.64,0.57 ,0,4.85,1.74,30.62,0
Turk_Makedonya:8,5.75,2.76,0.27,0,25.11,29.94,0.76 ,0,9.19,1.35,24.88,0
Turk_Makedonya:9,8.54,2.97,2.14,1.77,23.79,17.04,0 ,0.94,9.18,0.38,33.05,0.18
Turk_Makedonya:10,6.4,0.52,0.45,0.18,26.06,27.11,0 ,0,8.33,0.07,30.72,0.15
Turk_Makedonya:11,6.03,1.12,0,1.07,26.27,26.41,0,0 .11,8.33,0,30.48,0.2
Turk_Makedonya:12,7.72,2.23,1.38,1.34,21.58,27.24, 1.29,0,8.02,0.63,28.56,0
Turk_Makedonya:13,6.37,0,0.79,1.37,25.19,25.82,0,0 .35,9.45,0,30.5,0
Turk_Makedonya:14,5.6,1.96,1.55,0.45,31.95,23.18,0 ,0,8.75,0,26.57,0
Turk_Makedonya:15,7.66,1.44,0.65,0,22.53,21.74,0.3 7,0.42,8.72,1.65,34.82,0
Turk_Makedonya:16,9.03,2.5,1.69,0.1,21.33,21.93,2. 05,0,7.38,2.49,31.5,0
Turk_Makedonya:17,8.59,2.16,1.17,0,22.15,20.94,0,0 ,11.09,2.97,30.91,0
Komotini samples from our village are removed while running for my father.
Target: Kaspias_dad
Distance: 468.3878% / 4.68387848
54.4 Turk_Trakya
45.6 Turk_Deliorman
Target: Kaspias_dad
Distance: 468.3878% / 4.68387848
40.8 Turk_Deliorman:51 (Targovishte)
31.0 Turk_Trakya:12 (Benkovski)
13.2 Turk_Trakya:31 (Mestanli)
10.2 Turk_Trakya:5 (Mestanli)
4.8 Turk_Deliorman:42 (Dobrich)
Not so far from the reality considering his actual ancestry, yet not perfectly accurate.
Still, interesting to try.
Impaler
10-16-2020, 04:19 PM
Ottomans. Bulgarians have lesser.
You may try to run with individuals as well. I will be providing information about the sample locations.
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Turk_Trakya:2,8.16,2.92,0.29,0,22.75,25.92,0.36,0, 7.18,4.53,27.65,0.23
Turk_Trakya:3,8.94,4.5,0,0,18.84,26,1.32,0,7.24,2. 89,30.26,0
Turk_Trakya:4,6.33,5.8,0.24,0.87,20.32,25.28,0.1,0 ,8.57,4.64,27.84,0
Turk_Trakya:5,10.68,4.87,1.4,0,18.29,23.72,2.52,0, 6.8,3.99,27.28,0
Turk_Trakya:6,8.86,2.49,1.51,0,21.21,26.92,0.18,0. 23,7.65,5.67,25.28,0
Turk_Trakya:7,10.8,2.06,0.24,0,19.46,25.26,0.64,0, 9.51,4.92,27.11,0
Turk_Trakya:8,10.55,3.17,0.09,0,19.72,25.81,0,0,8. 15,3.91,28.6,0
Turk_Trakya:9,8.12,4.27,2.26,0,23.66,24.53,0.7,0,7 .45,1.5,27.5,0
Turk_Trakya:10,8.67,3.36,0.48,0,21.63,25.32,0.12,0 ,7.39,4.03,28.99,0
Turk_Trakya:11,11.01,5.32,0,0,16,25.15,0,0,7.93,6. 31,28.26,0
Turk_Trakya:12,8.45,3.76,2.12,0,21.58,22.7,2.36,0, 10.43,3.68,24.82,0.1
Turk_Trakya:13,7.7,5.22,0.98,0,20.76,25.55,2.04,0, 7.42,2.7,27.61,0
Turk_Trakya:14,6.86,4.88,1.16,1.1,19.59,25.01,0,0, 11.09,1.67,28.64,0
Turk_Trakya:15,8.96,6.29,2.15,0.39,17.49,25.84,0,0 ,7.53,4.94,26.4,0
Turk_Trakya:16,8.38,3.85,0,0.37,21.33,25.31,0,0,7. 32,5.43,28.01,0
Turk_Trakya:17,8.12,3.21,0.22,0,21.61,26.17,0,0,7. 44,6.15,26.53,0.55
Turk_Trakya:18,7.32,2.81,1.05,3.07,23.49,28.3,0,0, 9,1.75,23.21,0
Turk_Trakya:19,10.62,3.61,1.77,0,17.73,21.49,2.24, 0.64,9.13,5.21,27.16,0
Turk_Trakya:20,10.83,3.68,0,2.15,20.61,21.08,0,0,9 ,1.26,31.38,0
Turk_Trakya:21,5.95,4.72,0.26,0.07,17.16,28.07,2.7 1,0,9.91,3.41,27.7,0
Turk_Trakya:22,7.94,3.79,0.58,0.72,20.51,22.9,0.07 ,0,9.22,2.99,31.17,0
Turk_Trakya:23,10.06,4.88,2.1,0,17.38,26.73,0.48,0 ,7.82,3.17,27.38,0
Turk_Trakya:24,7.48,1.38,1.99,0.64,23.81,26.84,0,0 ,6.47,0.95,30.43,0
Turk_Trakya:25,9.84,0.34,0.46,0.14,22.6,32.16,1.04 ,0,7.9,1.66,23.86,0
Turk_Trakya:26,8.78,1.59,0.89,0.12,21.07,30.16,1.2 ,0,8.41,0.64,27.13,0
Turk_Trakya:27,9.85,2.8,1.44,0.9,22.2,22.4,0.82,0. 76,7.81,1.84,29.48,0.2
Turk_Trakya:28,8.97,4.22,1.07,0.74,22.26,23.62,0,0 ,7.75,1.38,29.99,0
Turk_Trakya:29,7.46,2.06,1.19,0,23.03,23.85,0,0,8. 68,1.9,31.84,0
Turk_Trakya:30,8.56,4.59,0.44,0,21.5,21.39,3.03,0, 6.98,4.39,29.12,0
Turk_Trakya:31,9.9,4.51,1.28,0,21.9,22.97,0.99,0,7 .22,3.63,27.61,0
Turk_Trakya:32,10.94,2.63,0,0,21.09,28.72,1.98,0,8 .01,1.35,23.2,0
Turk_Trakya:33,9.09,3.63,0.87,0,22.06,23.62,0,0.46 ,5.97,5.01,29.3,0
Turk_Trakya:34,6.99,5.79,1.66,0.47,20.33,24.56,0.7 4,0,7.41,2.96,29.08,0
Turk_Trakya:35,9.92,5.77,0,0.74,17.33,24.74,1.69,0 .1,7.88,3.58,28.23,0
Turk_Trakya:36,5.09,3.35,0.19,0,21.71,28.48,1.98,0 ,8.78,3.3,27.1,0
Turk_Trakya:37,7.63,3.85,0.18,0.1,18.64,24.33,1.29 ,0.27,8.88,6.33,28.48,0
Turk_Trakya:38,9.1,2.51,2.02,1.16,20.84,26.29,0.85 ,0,7.04,2.48,27.59,0
Turk_Trakya:39,7.62,2.45,1.39,2.17,20.27,28.68,0.4 8,0,7.8,0.79,28.35,0
Turk_Trakya:40,7.76,5.62,1.58,0,17.83,26.6,0.05,0, 8.39,4.95,27.22,0
Turk_Trakya:41,9.88,4.46,1.3,0,21.89,22.95,0.99,0, 7.23,3.72,27.58,0
Turk_Trakya:42,6.81,2.88,0.82,0.47,20.89,29.49,0,0 ,6.41,2.69,29.48,0
Turk_Trakya:43,7.32,1.09,0.65,1.46,23.78,28.55,0,0 ,6.55,2.66,27.95,0
Turk_Trakya:44,6.93,3.8,2.64,1.08,20.8,27.78,1.57, 0,7.02,0.91,27.45,0
Turk_Trakya:45,7.31,4.9,0,0,23.86,27.33,1.13,0.24, 7.3,1.81,26.12,0
Turk_Trakya:46,9.25,3.79,1.13,0,23.06,24.66,0.14,0 ,7.68,3.4,26.89,0
Turk_Trakya:47,7.57,3.89,0.28,0.52,27.62,22.79,0.1 4,0,6.4,2.79,28,0
Turk_Trakya:48,11.25,2.7,0,0,21.63,22.64,0.6,0,8.8 8,1.85,30.45,0
Turk_Trakya:49,9.57,1.67,1.48,0,22.14,27.74,2.16,0 .18,6.26,0,28.78,0
Turk_Trakya:50,4.99,3.77,2.55,0.17,19.79,26.74,0,0 .35,8.48,1.82,31.01,0.34
Turk_Trakya:51,6.78,4.43,0,0.27,26.03,30.43,1.17,0 ,5.96,0.25,24.68,0
Turk_Trakya:52,6.87,2.05,1.71,0,25.94,25.91,0.58,0 .07,7.99,0,29.26,0
Turk_Trakya:53,9.65,3.46,1.29,1.51,21.15,25.53,2.0 9,0.26,7.6,0,26.87,0.61
Turk_Trakya:54,7.44,3.89,3.15,0.68,20.02,31.08,0,0 ,8.68,0.24,24.83,0
Turk_Trakya:55,4.92,2.19,1.49,0,24.1,30.53,0,0,8.4 2,0.98,27.34,0
Turk_Trakya:56,11.44,8,1,0,19.69,21.8,2.95,0.24,7. 48,3.79,23.61,0
Turk_Trakya:57,9.55,6.27,0.63,0,20.59,22.23,2.31,0 .41,8.88,2.64,26.47,0
Turk_Trakya:58,9.4,8.11,0.49,0,15.73,24.3,1.37,0.4 8,7.16,6.47,26.49,0
Turk_Trakya:59,8.89,5.08,3.66,0,18.02,22.17,0.55,0 ,7.07,4.84,29.72,0
Turk_Trakya:60,6.68,3.86,1.01,0,26.82,26.29,0,0,6. 94,2.19,26.22,0
Turk_Deliorman:1,7.8,3.93,0.42,0,22.94,32.53,0.68, 0.3,3.78,3.48,24.14,0
Turk_Deliorman:2,8.6,1.1,0,0,22.55,30.17,1.37,0.81 ,3.9,4.05,27.42,0.05
Turk_Deliorman:3,8.26,6.03,0.66,0,20.41,29.26,0,0, 8.33,0,27.06,0
Turk_Deliorman:4,7.44,4.59,0.37,0,19.65,29.85,0,0, 7.99,1.91,28.01,0.19
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Turk_Deliorman:6,6.71,2.99,0.98,1.14,21.6,31.38,1. 17,0,5.87,1.21,26.92,0
Turk_Deliorman:7,6.24,2.7,0.11,0,23.86,27.45,0,0,9 .56,3.48,26.52,0.08
Turk_Deliorman:8,7.29,3.26,0.85,1.33,20.96,28.02,0 .3,0,6.1,2.95,28.95,0
Turk_Deliorman:9,9.11,2.37,1.27,0,20.66,30.06,0.99 ,0.3,6.41,5.71,23.02,0.11
Turk_Deliorman:10,6.81,2.88,0.82,0.47,20.89,29.49, 0,0,6.41,2.69,29.48,0
Turk_Deliorman:11,7.9,2.94,0,1.39,19.87,30.2,0.82, 0,8.38,2.11,26.4,0
Turk_Deliorman:12,6.77,2.33,0,2.8,21.57,29.46,0,0. 05,9.32,2.67,25.03,0
Turk_Deliorman:13,7.1,2.38,0,1.95,20.88,27.21,0,0, 9.4,4.07,27.01,0
Turk_Deliorman:14,6.18,3.34,1.07,0.3,21.47,28.33,1 .34,0,8.17,3.99,25.82,0
Turk_Deliorman:15,9.25,3.79,1.13,0,23.06,24.66,0.1 4,0,7.68,3.4,27.89,0
Turk_Deliorman:16,9.53,0.63,0,0,21.05,30.4,0.57,0. 06,7.1,4.46,26.19,0
Turk_Deliorman:17,8.95,2.06,0.37,0,21.45,27.71,1.2 2,0.27,7.29,3.36,27.32,0
Turk_Deliorman:18,9.61,2.57,0.94,1.78,18.06,25.98, 0.36,0.18,9.36,4.22,26.94,0
Turk_Deliorman:19,7.51,3.87,1.28,0.71,20.84,30.37, 1.83,0,6.67,1.98,24.96,0
Turk_Deliorman:20,9.96,2.99,0,0.36,24.49,31.7,0.98 ,0,4.43,1.25,23.84,0
Turk_Deliorman:21,9.14,2.78,0,0.09,25.76,30.41,0.7 9,0,5.47,4.55,20.99,0
Turk_Deliorman:22,10.1,3.73,0,0.58,24.59,30.18,0,0 ,6.96,2.95,20.9,0
Turk_Deliorman:23,7,2.38,0.14,0.57,22.88,28.78,0.0 9,0.19,7.74,4.89,25.23,0.13
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Turk_Deliorman:27,7.29,3.98,0.72,0.23,22.01,29.81, 1.09,0,4.52,2,28.35,0
Turk_Deliorman:28,8.72,5.09,0,0,22.57,29.01,0.77,0 ,5.93,4.79,23.09,0
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Turk_Deliorman:34,7.58,2.47,1.6,0,25.91,24.09,1.38 ,0,7.23,3.23,26.5,0
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Turk_Deliorman:43,9.87,4.55,0,1.64,20.27,29.69,0.3 7,0,7.12,0.3,26.18,0
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Turk_Deliorman:53,9.88,4.46,0,1.65,20.28,29.7,0.37 ,0,7.13,0.36,26.17,0
Turk_Deliorman:54,10.57,3.41,0.47,0,21.21,26.22,2. 69,0.26,7.92,2.21,25.03,0
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Turk_Deliorman:56,10.47,3.2,0.97,0,18.98,24.79,0.9 6,0,7.35,4.45,28.82,0
Turk_Deliorman:57,8.25,4.23,0.99,0.4,20.48,30.18,2 .12,0,7.24,2.09,23.98,0
Turk_Deliorman:58,6.6,2.8,1.24,0.65,22.94,27.65,1. 29,0,7.83,1.49,27.5,0
Turk_Deliorman:59,7.87,2.93,0,1.39,19.86,30.18,0.7 9,0,8.38,2.19,26.41,0
Turk_Deliorman:60,8.95,2.06,0.37,0,21.45,27.71,1.2 2,0.27,7.29,3.36,27.32,0
Turk_Deliorman:61,10.41,4.57,0,1.25,20.54,26.59,1. 65,0,6.17,2.57,26.23,0
Turk_Deliorman:62,6.59,2.1,0,0,23.84,27.28,2.6,0,7 .82,1.56,28.2,0
Turk_Deliorman:63,8.09,1.98,0.28,0.52,23.8,29.37,1 .51,0,6.01,4.72,23.73,0
Turk_Deliorman:64,8.98,3.06,0,0,22.68,25.73,0.99,0 ,7.14,2.76,27.69,0.9
Turk_Deliorman:65,7,4.37,1.12,0.48,22.39,28.51,0.8 1,0,4.39,4.33,26.61,0
Turk_Deliorman:66,7.31,1.7,0.39,0,24.47,29.77,1.08 ,0,8.13,1.56,25.59,0
Turk_Deliorman:67,9.15,4.21,0,1.24,21.25,28.2,1.9, 0,5.83,0.24,27.98,0
Turk_Deliorman:68,9.02,4.01,0.25,0.91,18.1,31.11,0 .99,0,7.9,2.2,25.5,0
Turk_Deliorman:69,8.17,1.91,1,2.97,19.47,27.34,1.5 ,0,8.69,0.55,28.39,0
Turk_Deliorman:70,7.63,2.17,2.46,0.18,20.45,31.56, 0.46,0,6.22,0.27,28.6,0
Turk_Deliorman:71,8.47,3.8,3,1.14,21.89,27.92,0,0, 4.94,0.71,27.87,0.25
Turk_Deliorman:72,8.41,3.23,1.16,0,18,29.5,1.29,0, 5.96,3.23,29.15,0.07
Turk_Deliorman:73,8.05,3.07,0,1.91,21.25,31.84,2.6 ,0,6.17,0.41,24.69,0
Turk_Deliorman:74,9.4,3.48,1.89,0,19.41,27.54,0.53 ,0,8.35,2.12,27.28,0
Turk_Makedonya:1,7.89,1.54,0.71,0,23.36,26.95,1.31 ,0,6.52,2.79,28.91,0
Turk_Makedonya:2,5.9,1.33,2.25,0,24.61,31.74,0,0,7 .71,0.7,25.77,0
Turk_Makedonya:3,7.84,1.78,0.08,0.08,23.37,31.99,1 .9,0.17,6.16,1.25,25.36,0
Turk_Makedonya:4,7.24,2.48,2.68,0,24.78,30.5,0.8,0 .23,7.12,0.7,23.44,0
Turk_Makedonya:5,4.96,1.86,0.24,0.95,26.93,29.57,0 ,0,8.07,0,27.41,0
Turk_Makedonya:6,4.86,1.2,0,1.11,23.28,30.01,0,2.1 4,9.27,0.45,26.31,1.39
Turk_Makedonya:7,4.55,2.54,1.22,0,23.27,30.64,0.57 ,0,4.85,1.74,30.62,0
Turk_Makedonya:8,5.75,2.76,0.27,0,25.11,29.94,0.76 ,0,9.19,1.35,24.88,0
Turk_Makedonya:9,8.54,2.97,2.14,1.77,23.79,17.04,0 ,0.94,9.18,0.38,33.05,0.18
Turk_Makedonya:10,6.4,0.52,0.45,0.18,26.06,27.11,0 ,0,8.33,0.07,30.72,0.15
Turk_Makedonya:11,6.03,1.12,0,1.07,26.27,26.41,0,0 .11,8.33,0,30.48,0.2
Turk_Makedonya:12,7.72,2.23,1.38,1.34,21.58,27.24, 1.29,0,8.02,0.63,28.56,0
Turk_Makedonya:13,6.37,0,0.79,1.37,25.19,25.82,0,0 .35,9.45,0,30.5,0
Turk_Makedonya:14,5.6,1.96,1.55,0.45,31.95,23.18,0 ,0,8.75,0,26.57,0
Turk_Makedonya:15,7.66,1.44,0.65,0,22.53,21.74,0.3 7,0.42,8.72,1.65,34.82,0
Turk_Makedonya:16,9.03,2.5,1.69,0.1,21.33,21.93,2. 05,0,7.38,2.49,31.5,0
Turk_Makedonya:17,8.59,2.16,1.17,0,22.15,20.94,0,0 ,11.09,2.97,30.91,0
Komotini samples from our village are removed while running for my father.
Target: Kaspias_dad
Distance: 468.3878% / 4.68387848
54.4 Turk_Trakya
45.6 Turk_Deliorman
Target: Kaspias_dad
Distance: 468.3878% / 4.68387848
40.8 Turk_Deliorman:51 (Targovishte)
31.0 Turk_Trakya:12 (Benkovski)
13.2 Turk_Trakya:31 (Mestanli)
10.2 Turk_Trakya:5 (Mestanli)
4.8 Turk_Deliorman:42 (Dobrich)
Not so far from the reality considering his actual ancestry, yet not perfectly accurate.
Still, interesting to try.
What is the Turk_Deliorman:54 region? I am the closest with this sample, about 5.1 distance.
Kaspias
10-16-2020, 04:24 PM
What is the Turk_Deliorman:54 region? I am the closest with this sample, about 5.1 distance.
Varna.
Thracian
10-16-2020, 04:25 PM
Ottomans. Bulgarians have lesser.
You may try to run with individuals as well. I will be providing information about the sample locations.
Turk_Trakya:1,7.73,4.37,1.4,0.3,18.4,24.7,2.08,0,6 .97,4.92,29.14,0
Turk_Trakya:2,8.16,2.92,0.29,0,22.75,25.92,0.36,0, 7.18,4.53,27.65,0.23
Turk_Trakya:3,8.94,4.5,0,0,18.84,26,1.32,0,7.24,2. 89,30.26,0
Turk_Trakya:4,6.33,5.8,0.24,0.87,20.32,25.28,0.1,0 ,8.57,4.64,27.84,0
Turk_Trakya:5,10.68,4.87,1.4,0,18.29,23.72,2.52,0, 6.8,3.99,27.28,0
Turk_Trakya:6,8.86,2.49,1.51,0,21.21,26.92,0.18,0. 23,7.65,5.67,25.28,0
Turk_Trakya:7,10.8,2.06,0.24,0,19.46,25.26,0.64,0, 9.51,4.92,27.11,0
Turk_Trakya:8,10.55,3.17,0.09,0,19.72,25.81,0,0,8. 15,3.91,28.6,0
Turk_Trakya:9,8.12,4.27,2.26,0,23.66,24.53,0.7,0,7 .45,1.5,27.5,0
Turk_Trakya:10,8.67,3.36,0.48,0,21.63,25.32,0.12,0 ,7.39,4.03,28.99,0
Turk_Trakya:11,11.01,5.32,0,0,16,25.15,0,0,7.93,6. 31,28.26,0
Turk_Trakya:12,8.45,3.76,2.12,0,21.58,22.7,2.36,0, 10.43,3.68,24.82,0.1
Turk_Trakya:13,7.7,5.22,0.98,0,20.76,25.55,2.04,0, 7.42,2.7,27.61,0
Turk_Trakya:14,6.86,4.88,1.16,1.1,19.59,25.01,0,0, 11.09,1.67,28.64,0
Turk_Trakya:15,8.96,6.29,2.15,0.39,17.49,25.84,0,0 ,7.53,4.94,26.4,0
Turk_Trakya:16,8.38,3.85,0,0.37,21.33,25.31,0,0,7. 32,5.43,28.01,0
Turk_Trakya:17,8.12,3.21,0.22,0,21.61,26.17,0,0,7. 44,6.15,26.53,0.55
Turk_Trakya:18,7.32,2.81,1.05,3.07,23.49,28.3,0,0, 9,1.75,23.21,0
Turk_Trakya:19,10.62,3.61,1.77,0,17.73,21.49,2.24, 0.64,9.13,5.21,27.16,0
Turk_Trakya:20,10.83,3.68,0,2.15,20.61,21.08,0,0,9 ,1.26,31.38,0
Turk_Trakya:21,5.95,4.72,0.26,0.07,17.16,28.07,2.7 1,0,9.91,3.41,27.7,0
Turk_Trakya:22,7.94,3.79,0.58,0.72,20.51,22.9,0.07 ,0,9.22,2.99,31.17,0
Turk_Trakya:23,10.06,4.88,2.1,0,17.38,26.73,0.48,0 ,7.82,3.17,27.38,0
Turk_Trakya:24,7.48,1.38,1.99,0.64,23.81,26.84,0,0 ,6.47,0.95,30.43,0
Turk_Trakya:25,9.84,0.34,0.46,0.14,22.6,32.16,1.04 ,0,7.9,1.66,23.86,0
Turk_Trakya:26,8.78,1.59,0.89,0.12,21.07,30.16,1.2 ,0,8.41,0.64,27.13,0
Turk_Trakya:27,9.85,2.8,1.44,0.9,22.2,22.4,0.82,0. 76,7.81,1.84,29.48,0.2
Turk_Trakya:28,8.97,4.22,1.07,0.74,22.26,23.62,0,0 ,7.75,1.38,29.99,0
Turk_Trakya:29,7.46,2.06,1.19,0,23.03,23.85,0,0,8. 68,1.9,31.84,0
Turk_Trakya:30,8.56,4.59,0.44,0,21.5,21.39,3.03,0, 6.98,4.39,29.12,0
Turk_Trakya:31,9.9,4.51,1.28,0,21.9,22.97,0.99,0,7 .22,3.63,27.61,0
Turk_Trakya:32,10.94,2.63,0,0,21.09,28.72,1.98,0,8 .01,1.35,23.2,0
Turk_Trakya:33,9.09,3.63,0.87,0,22.06,23.62,0,0.46 ,5.97,5.01,29.3,0
Turk_Trakya:34,6.99,5.79,1.66,0.47,20.33,24.56,0.7 4,0,7.41,2.96,29.08,0
Turk_Trakya:35,9.92,5.77,0,0.74,17.33,24.74,1.69,0 .1,7.88,3.58,28.23,0
Turk_Trakya:36,5.09,3.35,0.19,0,21.71,28.48,1.98,0 ,8.78,3.3,27.1,0
Turk_Trakya:37,7.63,3.85,0.18,0.1,18.64,24.33,1.29 ,0.27,8.88,6.33,28.48,0
Turk_Trakya:38,9.1,2.51,2.02,1.16,20.84,26.29,0.85 ,0,7.04,2.48,27.59,0
Turk_Trakya:39,7.62,2.45,1.39,2.17,20.27,28.68,0.4 8,0,7.8,0.79,28.35,0
Turk_Trakya:40,7.76,5.62,1.58,0,17.83,26.6,0.05,0, 8.39,4.95,27.22,0
Turk_Trakya:41,9.88,4.46,1.3,0,21.89,22.95,0.99,0, 7.23,3.72,27.58,0
Turk_Trakya:42,6.81,2.88,0.82,0.47,20.89,29.49,0,0 ,6.41,2.69,29.48,0
Turk_Trakya:43,7.32,1.09,0.65,1.46,23.78,28.55,0,0 ,6.55,2.66,27.95,0
Turk_Trakya:44,6.93,3.8,2.64,1.08,20.8,27.78,1.57, 0,7.02,0.91,27.45,0
Turk_Trakya:45,7.31,4.9,0,0,23.86,27.33,1.13,0.24, 7.3,1.81,26.12,0
Turk_Trakya:46,9.25,3.79,1.13,0,23.06,24.66,0.14,0 ,7.68,3.4,26.89,0
Turk_Trakya:47,7.57,3.89,0.28,0.52,27.62,22.79,0.1 4,0,6.4,2.79,28,0
Turk_Trakya:48,11.25,2.7,0,0,21.63,22.64,0.6,0,8.8 8,1.85,30.45,0
Turk_Trakya:49,9.57,1.67,1.48,0,22.14,27.74,2.16,0 .18,6.26,0,28.78,0
Turk_Trakya:50,4.99,3.77,2.55,0.17,19.79,26.74,0,0 .35,8.48,1.82,31.01,0.34
Turk_Trakya:51,6.78,4.43,0,0.27,26.03,30.43,1.17,0 ,5.96,0.25,24.68,0
Turk_Trakya:52,6.87,2.05,1.71,0,25.94,25.91,0.58,0 .07,7.99,0,29.26,0
Turk_Trakya:53,9.65,3.46,1.29,1.51,21.15,25.53,2.0 9,0.26,7.6,0,26.87,0.61
Turk_Trakya:54,7.44,3.89,3.15,0.68,20.02,31.08,0,0 ,8.68,0.24,24.83,0
Turk_Trakya:55,4.92,2.19,1.49,0,24.1,30.53,0,0,8.4 2,0.98,27.34,0
Turk_Trakya:56,11.44,8,1,0,19.69,21.8,2.95,0.24,7. 48,3.79,23.61,0
Turk_Trakya:57,9.55,6.27,0.63,0,20.59,22.23,2.31,0 .41,8.88,2.64,26.47,0
Turk_Trakya:58,9.4,8.11,0.49,0,15.73,24.3,1.37,0.4 8,7.16,6.47,26.49,0
Turk_Trakya:59,8.89,5.08,3.66,0,18.02,22.17,0.55,0 ,7.07,4.84,29.72,0
Turk_Trakya:60,6.68,3.86,1.01,0,26.82,26.29,0,0,6. 94,2.19,26.22,0
Turk_Deliorman:1,7.8,3.93,0.42,0,22.94,32.53,0.68, 0.3,3.78,3.48,24.14,0
Turk_Deliorman:2,8.6,1.1,0,0,22.55,30.17,1.37,0.81 ,3.9,4.05,27.42,0.05
Turk_Deliorman:3,8.26,6.03,0.66,0,20.41,29.26,0,0, 8.33,0,27.06,0
Turk_Deliorman:4,7.44,4.59,0.37,0,19.65,29.85,0,0, 7.99,1.91,28.01,0.19
Turk_Deliorman:5,8.06,3.36,0.74,0.91,22.02,30.13,0 .43,0.31,6.58,1.37,26.09,0
Turk_Deliorman:6,6.71,2.99,0.98,1.14,21.6,31.38,1. 17,0,5.87,1.21,26.92,0
Turk_Deliorman:7,6.24,2.7,0.11,0,23.86,27.45,0,0,9 .56,3.48,26.52,0.08
Turk_Deliorman:8,7.29,3.26,0.85,1.33,20.96,28.02,0 .3,0,6.1,2.95,28.95,0
Turk_Deliorman:9,9.11,2.37,1.27,0,20.66,30.06,0.99 ,0.3,6.41,5.71,23.02,0.11
Turk_Deliorman:10,6.81,2.88,0.82,0.47,20.89,29.49, 0,0,6.41,2.69,29.48,0
Turk_Deliorman:11,7.9,2.94,0,1.39,19.87,30.2,0.82, 0,8.38,2.11,26.4,0
Turk_Deliorman:12,6.77,2.33,0,2.8,21.57,29.46,0,0. 05,9.32,2.67,25.03,0
Turk_Deliorman:13,7.1,2.38,0,1.95,20.88,27.21,0,0, 9.4,4.07,27.01,0
Turk_Deliorman:14,6.18,3.34,1.07,0.3,21.47,28.33,1 .34,0,8.17,3.99,25.82,0
Turk_Deliorman:15,9.25,3.79,1.13,0,23.06,24.66,0.1 4,0,7.68,3.4,27.89,0
Turk_Deliorman:16,9.53,0.63,0,0,21.05,30.4,0.57,0. 06,7.1,4.46,26.19,0
Turk_Deliorman:17,8.95,2.06,0.37,0,21.45,27.71,1.2 2,0.27,7.29,3.36,27.32,0
Turk_Deliorman:18,9.61,2.57,0.94,1.78,18.06,25.98, 0.36,0.18,9.36,4.22,26.94,0
Turk_Deliorman:19,7.51,3.87,1.28,0.71,20.84,30.37, 1.83,0,6.67,1.98,24.96,0
Turk_Deliorman:20,9.96,2.99,0,0.36,24.49,31.7,0.98 ,0,4.43,1.25,23.84,0
Turk_Deliorman:21,9.14,2.78,0,0.09,25.76,30.41,0.7 9,0,5.47,4.55,20.99,0
Turk_Deliorman:22,10.1,3.73,0,0.58,24.59,30.18,0,0 ,6.96,2.95,20.9,0
Turk_Deliorman:23,7,2.38,0.14,0.57,22.88,28.78,0.0 9,0.19,7.74,4.89,25.23,0.13
Turk_Deliorman:24,7.19,3.19,0.88,0,21.65,29.46,1.8 4,0,7.25,3.18,25.37,0
Turk_Deliorman:25,7.06,3.04,1.19,0.42,23.08,29.1,0 ,0,6.4,2.15,28.58,0
Turk_Deliorman:26,5.14,3.16,0,0.72,23.55,27.88,1.4 ,0.39,7.74,1.14,28.9,0
Turk_Deliorman:27,7.29,3.98,0.72,0.23,22.01,29.81, 1.09,0,4.52,2,28.35,0
Turk_Deliorman:28,8.72,5.09,0,0,22.57,29.01,0.77,0 ,5.93,4.79,23.09,0
Turk_Deliorman:29,8.95,3.41,1,0.36,20.48,28.12,1.2 ,0,7.14,2.67,26.6,0.06
Turk_Deliorman:30,8.78,3.92,1.07,1.67,23.47,27.38, 1.68,0,4.79,1.22,26.04,0
Turk_Deliorman:31,9.33,4.24,0.53,0.34,23.27,27.07, 0,0,7.13,3.15,24.93,0
Turk_Deliorman:32,8.47,2.94,1.07,0,20.16,29.05,0.0 8,0,6.61,3.99,27.63,0
Turk_Deliorman:33,9.27,3.76,1,0,19.96,28.01,0.47,0 ,7.72,3.67,26.15,0
Turk_Deliorman:34,7.58,2.47,1.6,0,25.91,24.09,1.38 ,0,7.23,3.23,26.5,0
Turk_Deliorman:35,5.59,1.63,0.3,1.23,27.19,28.39,1 .42,0,5.63,1.2,27.43,0
Turk_Deliorman:36,5.28,1.66,0,2.59,24.14,30.06,0.9 ,0,7.51,0,27.86,0
Turk_Deliorman:37,7.37,0.35,0,1.25,24.37,30.25,0,0 ,7.54,0.81,27.98,0.07
Turk_Deliorman:38,4.36,0.88,0.89,0,26.9,32.8,0.79, 0,6.99,0.19,26.19,0
Turk_Deliorman:39,7.46,1.49,1.44,0.74,22.33,28.11, 1.74,0,8.33,1.53,26.82,0
Turk_Deliorman:40,6.43,3.32,1.46,0,20.95,31.85,0.9 9,0,5.59,2.2,27.21,0
Turk_Deliorman:41,7.35,3.98,0,0.37,19.98,27.94,1.9 4,0,7.65,5.24,25.55,0
Turk_Deliorman:42,7.37,7.67,0,1.68,17.57,29.36,1.7 9,0,5.5,6.29,22.78,0
Turk_Deliorman:43,9.87,4.55,0,1.64,20.27,29.69,0.3 7,0,7.12,0.3,26.18,0
Turk_Deliorman:44,7.56,2.4,0.94,0,18.52,27.81,0,0, 7.44,4.05,31.2,0.08
Turk_Deliorman:45,7.05,2.06,1.39,2.05,20.34,26.9,0 ,0.21,10.73,2.35,25.95,0.97
Turk_Deliorman:46,9.74,0.89,0,2.39,19.39,27.31,0.1 7,0,7.06,4.54,27.99,0.5
Turk_Deliorman:47,7.67,3.76,0.44,1.01,22.33,28.02, 0.87,0.82,7.25,0.44,27.4,0
Turk_Deliorman:48,6.49,0.9,0.87,0,24.46,36,0.57,0, 6.48,0,24.24,0
Turk_Deliorman:49,9.46,3.46,0,0.34,20.91,27.15,0.0 6,0,8.64,3.24,26.73,0
Turk_Deliorman:50,9.66,1.96,0,0,21.11,29.38,1.47,0 .23,7.62,2.83,25.74,0
Turk_Deliorman:51,12.11,4.49,0,1.67,16.92,23.23,3. 3,0.27,6.53,6.88,24.61,0
Turk_Deliorman:52,8.22,4.42,0,0.92,19.75,25.1,1.99 ,0,6.83,2.9,29.01,0.86
Turk_Deliorman:53,9.88,4.46,0,1.65,20.28,29.7,0.37 ,0,7.13,0.36,26.17,0
Turk_Deliorman:54,10.57,3.41,0.47,0,21.21,26.22,2. 69,0.26,7.92,2.21,25.03,0
Turk_Deliorman:55,5.68,3.06,2.62,0,18.87,25.91,0.9 8,0,9.15,2.42,31.31,0
Turk_Deliorman:56,10.47,3.2,0.97,0,18.98,24.79,0.9 6,0,7.35,4.45,28.82,0
Turk_Deliorman:57,8.25,4.23,0.99,0.4,20.48,30.18,2 .12,0,7.24,2.09,23.98,0
Turk_Deliorman:58,6.6,2.8,1.24,0.65,22.94,27.65,1. 29,0,7.83,1.49,27.5,0
Turk_Deliorman:59,7.87,2.93,0,1.39,19.86,30.18,0.7 9,0,8.38,2.19,26.41,0
Turk_Deliorman:60,8.95,2.06,0.37,0,21.45,27.71,1.2 2,0.27,7.29,3.36,27.32,0
Turk_Deliorman:61,10.41,4.57,0,1.25,20.54,26.59,1. 65,0,6.17,2.57,26.23,0
Turk_Deliorman:62,6.59,2.1,0,0,23.84,27.28,2.6,0,7 .82,1.56,28.2,0
Turk_Deliorman:63,8.09,1.98,0.28,0.52,23.8,29.37,1 .51,0,6.01,4.72,23.73,0
Turk_Deliorman:64,8.98,3.06,0,0,22.68,25.73,0.99,0 ,7.14,2.76,27.69,0.9
Turk_Deliorman:65,7,4.37,1.12,0.48,22.39,28.51,0.8 1,0,4.39,4.33,26.61,0
Turk_Deliorman:66,7.31,1.7,0.39,0,24.47,29.77,1.08 ,0,8.13,1.56,25.59,0
Turk_Deliorman:67,9.15,4.21,0,1.24,21.25,28.2,1.9, 0,5.83,0.24,27.98,0
Turk_Deliorman:68,9.02,4.01,0.25,0.91,18.1,31.11,0 .99,0,7.9,2.2,25.5,0
Turk_Deliorman:69,8.17,1.91,1,2.97,19.47,27.34,1.5 ,0,8.69,0.55,28.39,0
Turk_Deliorman:70,7.63,2.17,2.46,0.18,20.45,31.56, 0.46,0,6.22,0.27,28.6,0
Turk_Deliorman:71,8.47,3.8,3,1.14,21.89,27.92,0,0, 4.94,0.71,27.87,0.25
Turk_Deliorman:72,8.41,3.23,1.16,0,18,29.5,1.29,0, 5.96,3.23,29.15,0.07
Turk_Deliorman:73,8.05,3.07,0,1.91,21.25,31.84,2.6 ,0,6.17,0.41,24.69,0
Turk_Deliorman:74,9.4,3.48,1.89,0,19.41,27.54,0.53 ,0,8.35,2.12,27.28,0
Turk_Makedonya:1,7.89,1.54,0.71,0,23.36,26.95,1.31 ,0,6.52,2.79,28.91,0
Turk_Makedonya:2,5.9,1.33,2.25,0,24.61,31.74,0,0,7 .71,0.7,25.77,0
Turk_Makedonya:3,7.84,1.78,0.08,0.08,23.37,31.99,1 .9,0.17,6.16,1.25,25.36,0
Turk_Makedonya:4,7.24,2.48,2.68,0,24.78,30.5,0.8,0 .23,7.12,0.7,23.44,0
Turk_Makedonya:5,4.96,1.86,0.24,0.95,26.93,29.57,0 ,0,8.07,0,27.41,0
Turk_Makedonya:6,4.86,1.2,0,1.11,23.28,30.01,0,2.1 4,9.27,0.45,26.31,1.39
Turk_Makedonya:7,4.55,2.54,1.22,0,23.27,30.64,0.57 ,0,4.85,1.74,30.62,0
Turk_Makedonya:8,5.75,2.76,0.27,0,25.11,29.94,0.76 ,0,9.19,1.35,24.88,0
Turk_Makedonya:9,8.54,2.97,2.14,1.77,23.79,17.04,0 ,0.94,9.18,0.38,33.05,0.18
Turk_Makedonya:10,6.4,0.52,0.45,0.18,26.06,27.11,0 ,0,8.33,0.07,30.72,0.15
Turk_Makedonya:11,6.03,1.12,0,1.07,26.27,26.41,0,0 .11,8.33,0,30.48,0.2
Turk_Makedonya:12,7.72,2.23,1.38,1.34,21.58,27.24, 1.29,0,8.02,0.63,28.56,0
Turk_Makedonya:13,6.37,0,0.79,1.37,25.19,25.82,0,0 .35,9.45,0,30.5,0
Turk_Makedonya:14,5.6,1.96,1.55,0.45,31.95,23.18,0 ,0,8.75,0,26.57,0
Turk_Makedonya:15,7.66,1.44,0.65,0,22.53,21.74,0.3 7,0.42,8.72,1.65,34.82,0
Turk_Makedonya:16,9.03,2.5,1.69,0.1,21.33,21.93,2. 05,0,7.38,2.49,31.5,0
Turk_Makedonya:17,8.59,2.16,1.17,0,22.15,20.94,0,0 ,11.09,2.97,30.91,0
Komotini samples from our village are removed while running for my father.
Target: Kaspias_dad
Distance: 468.3878% / 4.68387848
54.4 Turk_Trakya
45.6 Turk_Deliorman
Target: Kaspias_dad
Distance: 468.3878% / 4.68387848
40.8 Turk_Deliorman:51 (Targovishte)
31.0 Turk_Trakya:12 (Benkovski)
13.2 Turk_Trakya:31 (Mestanli)
10.2 Turk_Trakya:5 (Mestanli)
4.8 Turk_Deliorman:42 (Dobrich)
Not so far from the reality considering his actual ancestry, yet not perfectly accurate.
Still, interesting to try.
Only Turkish samples. Looks better.
Target: Thracian
Distance: 165.4973% / 1.65497341 | ADC: 0.25x
81.8 Turk_Trakya
18.2 Turk_Makedonya
Target: Thracian
Distance: 165.4973% / 1.65497341 | ADC: 0.25x
46.4 Turk_Trakya:53
35.4 Turk_Trakya:48
15.6 Turk_Makedonya:14
2.6 Turk_Makedonya:9
With the whole SS,
Target: Thracian
Distance: 84.2491% / 0.84249075 | ADC: 0.25x
80.6 Turk_Trakya
12.2 Italy_Lazio
5.0 Italy_Tuscany
1.6 Balkan_Gypsy
0.6 Cochin_Jews
Target: Thracian
Distance: 84.0432% / 0.84043224 | ADC: 0.25x
49.6 Turk_Trakya:53
30.8 Turk_Trakya:48
12.8 Italy_Lazio
4.6 Italy_Tuscany
1.6 Balkan_Gypsy
0.4 Cochin_Jews
0.2 Meena
Kaspias
10-16-2020, 04:30 PM
Only Turkish samples. Looks better.
Target: Thracian
Distance: 165.4973% / 1.65497341 | ADC: 0.25x
46.4 Turk_Trakya:53 = Gümülcine, Yassıköy
35.4 Turk_Trakya:48 = Tekirdağ, Hayrabolu
15.6 Turk_Makedonya:14 = Manastır
2.6 Turk_Makedonya:9 = Selanik
Distance to: Kyp
3.99569769 Turk_Deliorman61
4.32990762 Turk_Deliorman54
4.67679377 Turk_Trakya32
4.74851556 Turk_Deliorman50
4.75923313 Turk_Deliorman29
4.95384699 Turk_Deliorman67
4.96996982 Turk_Trakya49
5.04039681 Turk_Trakya53
5.04202340 Turk_Trakya38
5.12320212 Turk_Deliorman53
5.17158583 Turk_Deliorman43
5.19921148 Turk_Deliorman17
5.19921148 Turk_Deliorman60
5.39279148 Turk_Deliorman74
5.41085021 Turk_Deliorman33
5.47925177 Turk_Deliorman30
5.75316435 Turk_Deliorman49
5.93918345 Turk_Trakya26
5.96698416 Turk_Deliorman64
6.02230022 Turk_Deliorman71
6.02474896 Turk_Trakya8
6.05643459 Turk_Deliorman5
6.06929979 Turk_Deliorman32
6.07264358 Turk_Deliorman46
6.07856068 Turk_Deliorman31
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Kaspias
10-17-2020, 11:22 AM
I attempted to create a hybrid dataset.
Trakya:
[1,] "13.9% Karluk_DA222 + 86.1% Bulgarian_Thrace" "1.9061"
[2,] "14.3% Karakhanid_DA204 + 85.7% Bulgarian_Thrace" "2.1703"
[3,] "17.8% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA385 + 82.2% Greek_Peloponnese" "2.2401"
[4,] "16.1% Xiongnu-Turk_DA38 + 83.9% Greek_Thessaloniki" "2.3234"
[5,] "76.4% Bulgarian_Thrace + 23.6% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe" "2.3431"
[6,] "78.4% Bulgarian_East + 21.6% Turkmen_Uzbekistan" "2.3584"
[7,] "15.3% Ottoman_MA2195 + 84.7% Bulgarian_Thrace" "2.3715"
[8,] "14.8% Karluk_DA230 + 85.2% Bulgarian_Thrace" "2.3834"
[9,] "81% Bulgarian_Thrace + 19% Turkmen_Uzbekistan" "2.4043"
[10,] "19.3% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA100 + 80.7% Greek_Peloponnese" "2.4288"
[11,] "77.5% Greek_Macedonia + 22.5% Turkmen_Uzbekistan" "2.5219"
[12,] "21% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA101 + 79% Greek_Peloponnese" "2.6104"
[13,] "20.4% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA101 + 79.6% Greek_Thessaloniki" "2.643"
[14,] "12.7% Xiongnu-Turk_DA38 + 87.3% Bulgarian_Thrace" "2.6798"
[15,] "21.2% Kipchak_DA179 + 78.8% Bulgarian_Thrace" "2.6919"
[16,] "11.8% KAZ_Nomad_MA_DA93 + 88.2% Bulgarian_Thrace" "2.792"
[17,] "12.8% Xiongnu-Turk_DA41 + 87.2% Bulgarian_Thrace" "2.8121"
[18,] "16.3% Xiongnu-Turk_DA38 + 83.7% Greek_Peloponnese" "2.8496"
[19,] "17.8% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA74 + 82.2% Greek_Peloponnese" "2.8837"
[20,] "16.9% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA385 + 83.1% Greek_Thessaloniki" "2.8982"
Deliorman:
[1,] "84.2% Bulgarian_East + 15.8% Turkmen_Uzbekistan" "1.4117"
[2,] "80.8% Bulgarian_Central + 19.2% Turkmen_Uzbekistan" "1.5442"
[3,] "11.4% Karluk_DA222 + 88.6% Bulgarian_East" "1.6333"
[4,] "83.3% Greek_Macedonia + 16.7% Turkmen_Uzbekistan" "1.8036"
[5,] "17.7% Kipchak_DA179 + 82.3% Bulgarian_East" "1.8314"
[6,] "12.3% Karluk_DA230 + 87.7% Bulgarian_East" "2.0298"
[7,] "14.3% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA385 + 85.7% Bulgarian_Thrace" "2.0988"
[8,] "12.1% Karluk_DA222 + 87.9% Greek_Macedonia" "2.1281"
[9,] "79.5% Bulgarian_West + 20.5% Turkmen_Uzbekistan" "2.1682"
[10,] "18.8% Kipchak_DA179 + 81.2% Greek_Macedonia" "2.1893"
[11,] "80.2% Bulgarian_East + 19.8% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe" "2.2142"
[12,] "15.6% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA100 + 84.4% Bulgarian_Thrace" "2.3194"
[13,] "12.4% Ottoman_MA2195 + 87.6% Bulgarian_East" "2.3324"
[14,] "11.6% Karakhanid_DA204 + 88.4% Bulgarian_East" "2.4082"
[15,] "14.5% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA74 + 85.5% Bulgarian_Thrace" "2.424"
[16,] "17% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA101 + 83% Bulgarian_Thrace" "2.517"
[17,] "12.9% Karluk_DA230 + 87.1% Greek_Macedonia" "2.5429"
[18,] "79% Greek_Macedonia + 21% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe" "2.5547"
[19,] "13% Xiongnu-Turk_DA38 + 87% Bulgarian_Thrace" "2.5795"
[20,] "17.1% Hazar-Bulgar_DA142 + 82.9% Bulgarian_Thrace" "2.6238"
Makedonya:
[1,] "4.1% KAZ_Nomad_MA_DA93 + 95.9% Bulgarian_Thrace" "0.8283"
[2,] "5.8% Hazar-Bulgar_DA142 + 94.2% Bulgarian_Thrace" "0.8626"
[3,] "10% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA85 + 90% Greek_Thessaloniki" "0.8947"
[4,] "4.7% Karakhanid_DA204 + 95.3% Bulgarian_Thrace" "0.951"
[5,] "92.2% Bulgarian_Thrace + 7.8% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe" "0.9594"
[6,] "3.9% Kipchak_DA23 + 96.1% Bulgarian_Thrace" "0.9962"
[7,] "4.3% Xiongnu-Turk_DA41 + 95.7% Bulgarian_Thrace" "1.0297"
[8,] "5.7% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA65 + 94.3% Bulgarian_Thrace" "1.0454"
[9,] "5% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA100 + 95% Bulgarian_Thrace" "1.0647"
[10,] "4.5% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA385 + 95.5% Bulgarian_Thrace" "1.0691"
[11,] "10.4% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA101 + 89.6% Greek_Thessaloniki" "1.0812"
[12,] "4.6% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA74 + 95.4% Bulgarian_Thrace" "1.1039"
[13,] "4.1% Xiongnu-Turk_DA38 + 95.9% Bulgarian_Thrace" "1.1181"
[14,] "4.9% Ottoman_MA2195 + 95.1% Bulgarian_Thrace" "1.1378"
[15,] "10.8% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA81 + 89.2% Greek_Thessaloniki" "1.1667"
[16,] "4.5% Gokturk_DA89 + 95.5% Bulgarian_Thrace" "1.2229"
[17,] "4.2% Karluk_DA222 + 95.8% Bulgarian_Thrace" "1.2376"
[18,] "2.7% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA96 + 97.3% Bulgarian_Thrace" "1.2436"
[19,] "4.8% KAZ_Nomad_MA_DA126 + 95.2% Bulgarian_Thrace" "1.3038"
[20,] "5.1% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA101 + 94.9% Bulgarian_Thrace" "1.3054"
Ryujin
10-17-2020, 11:42 AM
Balkan Turks are originally from the Konya-Karaman area, where Karamanids ruled before being subjugated by the Ottomans and banished to Balkan territories. Karamanids were Khazar Turks so they probably had strong Turanid or Mongoloid component.
Atatürk, who is probably a descendant of Karamanids himself, took the revenge of Karamanids by putting an end to the Ottomans and sending the family into exile, the same way what was done do Karamanids.
My history is better than anthropology, so, just wanted to give a historical perspective in this context. :P
Kaspias
10-17-2020, 12:11 PM
Balkan Turks are originally from the Konya-Karaman area, where Karamanids ruled before being subjugated by the Ottomans and banished to Balkan territories. Karamanids were Khazar Turks so they probably had strong Turanid or Mongoloid component.
Atatürk, who is probably a descendant of Karamanids himself, took the revenge of Karamanids by putting an end to the Ottomans and sending the family into exile, the same way what was done do Karamanids.
My history is better than anthropology, so, just wanted to give a historical perspective in this context. :P
Karamanid population is simply not enough to cover all of the Balkan Turks. It is a fact that there was a mass migration of Karamanids to the Balkans, yet it is certainly not true that these people are only of Karamanid descend.
First of all, the Turkic population in the 1500s was already roughly 1/4 Tatar(5 different Tatar associations, 3 are being small), not even Oghuz. Then, when looking at Yoruk associations that were present at the same time as mentioned Tatar associations, we understand that they were already present before the Karamanid migration. The founder ones were probably of Kayi and Karesi(A worthy note here is there might be migration from other Western Beyliks as well, like Aydin, Menteşe, and Saruhan together with Karesi and Kayi) origin. But indeed, we see conclusions of claimed Karamanid migrations towards end of the 15th century. Population who are registered to those Yoruk associations was almost doubling. Also, although it is not mentioned in Turkish history, I give a chance to Candaroglu migration to the Balkans together with Karamanids.
After all, when these associations are collapsed in the 17th century, Celali Rebellions took place. Migration and exiles after the rebellions doubled the Turkish population in the Balkans, again. There is no detailed historical record on it and we don't know the origin of the new comers.
Towards the 19th century irregular migrations from Anatolia, Iran, Syria, and Iraq happened. All were Turkic speakers and former subjects of the Ottomans. (like Iranian Turks, Syrian Turkmens)
At the same time, from the 1840s to the 1930s, great Tatar migration took place and some are already absorbed among Turks while some still identify as Tatar.
Plus to what had been stated until now, there is also a chance of pre-Ottoman(Seljuks and before) Turkic migrations to the Balkans.
Karamanids are just one of the origins, but it is a popular myth in Turkey to talk as if all of the Balkan Turks were of Karamanid origin.
Ryujin
10-17-2020, 12:40 PM
Karamanid population is simply not enough to cover all of the Balkan Turks. It is a fact that there was a mass migration of Karamanids to the Balkans, yet it is certainly not true that these people are only of Karamanid descend.
First of all, the Turkic population in the 1500s was already roughly 1/4 Tatar(5 different Tatar associations, 3 are being small), not even Oghuz. Then, when looking at Yoruk associations that were present at the same time as mentioned Tatar associations, we understand that they were already present before the Karamanid migration. The founder ones were probably of Kayi and Karesi(A worthy note here is there might be migration from other Western Beyliks as well, like Aydin, Menteşe, and Saruhan together with Karesi and Kayi) origin. But indeed, we see conclusions of claimed Karamanid migrations towards end of the 15th century. Population who are registered to those Yoruk associations was almost doubling. Also, although it is not mentioned in Turkish history, I give a chance to Candaroglu migration to the Balkans together with Karamanids.
After all, when these associations are collapsed in the 17th century, Celali Rebellions took place. Migration and exiles after the rebellions doubled the Turkish population in the Balkans, again. There is no detailed historical record on it and we don't know the origin of the new comers.
Towards the 19th century irregular migrations from Anatolia, Iran, Syria, and Iraq happened. All were Turkic speakers and former subjects of the Ottomans. (like Iranian Turks, Syrian Turkmens)
At the same time, from the 1840s to the 1930s, great Tatar migration took place and some are already absorbed among Turks while some still identify as Tatar.
Plus to what had been stated until now, there is also a chance of pre-Ottoman(Seljuks and before) Turkic migrations to the Balkans.
Karamanids are just one of the origins, but it is a popular myth in Turkey to talk as if all of the Balkan Turks were of Karamanid origin.
I did not state that all of them were of Karamanid origins; but it might be the primary reason for higher Mongoloid component in some Balkan areas.
Of course they are not pure Karamanids, many must have been mixed with Balkanite locals as well and other tribes. This is only natural. No one is pure.
Bender1999
10-17-2020, 01:09 PM
Balkan Turks are originally from the Konya-Karaman area, where Karamanids ruled before being subjugated by the Ottomans and banished to Balkan territories. Karamanids were Khazar Turks so they probably had strong Turanid or Mongoloid component.
Atatürk, who is probably a descendant of Karamanids himself, took the revenge of Karamanids by putting an end to the Ottomans and sending the family into exile, the same way what was done do Karamanids.
My history is better than anthropology, so, just wanted to give a historical perspective in this context. :P
Whut?
Noble Cuman
10-17-2020, 01:35 PM
Everyone claims Atatürk. They claim Karaman, Jew, Albanian, Bulgarian. Why they do that? They have their own agendas. He was Turkish speaking Balkan Turk from Macedonia. Just look at results of Balkan Turks from Macedonia.
Kaspias
10-17-2020, 04:23 PM
I attempted to create a hybrid dataset.
You may give it a try.
File: balturk_oracle.RData (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1e5QQngrNmbKGBJc_hKTgGTRIfp7agK9S/view?usp=sharing)
Command:
balturk(c(8.87,5.92,1.72,0,18.43,26.85,1.31,0,8.41 ,3.06,25.40,0),k=20,mixedmode=T)
I did not include Turkish populations with a purpose. I'm interested in the populations which will be preferred by algorithm while modeling Turks.
I:
[1,] "72.4% Bulgarian_East + 27.6% Turkmen_Uzbekistan" "3.3856"
[2,] "69.4% Bulgarian_Central + 30.6% Turkmen_Uzbekistan" "3.4945"
[3,] "19.6% Xiongnu-Turk_DA38 + 80.4% Bulgarian_Thrace" "3.703"
[4,] "25% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA385 + 75% Greek_Peloponnese" "3.7261"
[5,] "22.8% Xiongnu-Turk_DA38 + 77.2% Greek_Thessaloniki" "3.7391"
[6,] "68.2% Bulgarian_West + 31.8% Turkmen_Uzbekistan" "3.8151"
[7,] "71.4% Greek_Macedonia + 28.6% Turkmen_Uzbekistan" "3.8286"
[8,] "18.3% KAZ_Nomad_MA_DA93 + 81.7% Bulgarian_Thrace" "3.8641"
[9,] "21.2% Karakhanid_DA204 + 78.8% Bulgarian_Thrace" "4.0056"
[10,] "19.8% Karluk_DA222 + 80.2% Bulgarian_East" "4.0534"
[11,] "27% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA100 + 73% Greek_Peloponnese" "4.0766"
[12,] "20.8% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA385 + 79.2% Bulgarian_Thrace" "4.1007"
[13,] "28.9% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA101 + 71.1% Greek_Thessaloniki" "4.1544"
[14,] "24.2% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA385 + 75.8% Greek_Thessaloniki" "4.1833"
[15,] "29.4% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA101 + 70.6% Greek_Peloponnese" "4.2169"
[16,] "22.7% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA100 + 77.3% Bulgarian_Thrace" "4.2197"
[17,] "23.1% Xiongnu-Turk_DA38 + 76.9% Greek_Peloponnese" "4.2784"
[18,] "65.1% Bulgarian_Thrace + 34.9% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe" "4.2901"
[19,] "19.5% Xiongnu-Turk_DA41 + 80.5% Bulgarian_Thrace" "4.3191"
[20,] "26.3% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA100 + 73.7% Greek_Thessaloniki" "4.3716"
[21,] "30.3% Kipchak_DA179 + 69.7% Bulgarian_East" "4.4444"
[22,] "29.7% Hazar-Bulgar_DA142 + 70.3% Greek_Peloponnese" "4.4505"
[23,] "24.8% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA101 + 75.2% Bulgarian_Thrace" "4.4691"
[24,] "25% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA74 + 75% Greek_Peloponnese" "4.5033"
[25,] "25.1% Hazar-Bulgar_DA142 + 74.9% Bulgarian_Thrace" "4.5143"
[26,] "20.4% Karluk_DA222 + 79.6% Greek_Macedonia" "4.5712"
[27,] "67.1% Romanian + 32.9% Turkmen_Uzbekistan" "4.5773"
[28,] "28.1% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA385 + 71.9% Greek_Athens" "4.581"
[29,] "25.4% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA65 + 74.6% Bulgarian_Thrace" "4.6183"
[30,] "33.1% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA101 + 66.9% Greek_Athens" "4.6385"
Thracian
10-17-2020, 06:09 PM
You may give it a try.
File: balturk_oracle.RData (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1e5QQngrNmbKGBJc_hKTgGTRIfp7agK9S/view?usp=sharing)
Command:
balturk(c(8.87,5.92,1.72,0,18.43,26.85,1.31,0,8.41 ,3.06,25.40,0),k=20,mixedmode=T)
I did not include Turkish populations with a purpose. I'm interested in the populations which will be preferred by algorithm while modeling Turks.
I:
[1,] "72.4% Bulgarian_East + 27.6% Turkmen_Uzbekistan" "3.3856"
[2,] "69.4% Bulgarian_Central + 30.6% Turkmen_Uzbekistan" "3.4945"
[3,] "19.6% Xiongnu-Turk_DA38 + 80.4% Bulgarian_Thrace" "3.703"
[4,] "25% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA385 + 75% Greek_Peloponnese" "3.7261"
[5,] "22.8% Xiongnu-Turk_DA38 + 77.2% Greek_Thessaloniki" "3.7391"
[6,] "68.2% Bulgarian_West + 31.8% Turkmen_Uzbekistan" "3.8151"
[7,] "71.4% Greek_Macedonia + 28.6% Turkmen_Uzbekistan" "3.8286"
[8,] "18.3% KAZ_Nomad_MA_DA93 + 81.7% Bulgarian_Thrace" "3.8641"
[9,] "21.2% Karakhanid_DA204 + 78.8% Bulgarian_Thrace" "4.0056"
[10,] "19.8% Karluk_DA222 + 80.2% Bulgarian_East" "4.0534"
[11,] "27% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA100 + 73% Greek_Peloponnese" "4.0766"
[12,] "20.8% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA385 + 79.2% Bulgarian_Thrace" "4.1007"
[13,] "28.9% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA101 + 71.1% Greek_Thessaloniki" "4.1544"
[14,] "24.2% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA385 + 75.8% Greek_Thessaloniki" "4.1833"
[15,] "29.4% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA101 + 70.6% Greek_Peloponnese" "4.2169"
[16,] "22.7% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA100 + 77.3% Bulgarian_Thrace" "4.2197"
[17,] "23.1% Xiongnu-Turk_DA38 + 76.9% Greek_Peloponnese" "4.2784"
[18,] "65.1% Bulgarian_Thrace + 34.9% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe" "4.2901"
[19,] "19.5% Xiongnu-Turk_DA41 + 80.5% Bulgarian_Thrace" "4.3191"
[20,] "26.3% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA100 + 73.7% Greek_Thessaloniki" "4.3716"
[21,] "30.3% Kipchak_DA179 + 69.7% Bulgarian_East" "4.4444"
[22,] "29.7% Hazar-Bulgar_DA142 + 70.3% Greek_Peloponnese" "4.4505"
[23,] "24.8% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA101 + 75.2% Bulgarian_Thrace" "4.4691"
[24,] "25% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA74 + 75% Greek_Peloponnese" "4.5033"
[25,] "25.1% Hazar-Bulgar_DA142 + 74.9% Bulgarian_Thrace" "4.5143"
[26,] "20.4% Karluk_DA222 + 79.6% Greek_Macedonia" "4.5712"
[27,] "67.1% Romanian + 32.9% Turkmen_Uzbekistan" "4.5773"
[28,] "28.1% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA385 + 71.9% Greek_Athens" "4.581"
[29,] "25.4% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA65 + 74.6% Bulgarian_Thrace" "4.6183"
[30,] "33.1% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA101 + 66.9% Greek_Athens" "4.6385"
[1,] "19.4% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA81 + 80.6% Greek_Central" "2.3023"
[2,] "21.2% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA81 + 78.8% Greek_Athens" "2.3128"
[3,] "17.7% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA85 + 82.3% Greek_Central" "2.4142"
[4,] "16.5% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA81 + 83.5% Greek_Peloponnese" "2.4215"
[5,] "15% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA85 + 85% Greek_Peloponnese" "2.4873"
[6,] "19.4% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA85 + 80.6% Greek_Athens" "2.5298"
[7,] "15.7% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA101 + 84.3% Greek_Peloponnese" "2.6578"
[8,] "18.4% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA101 + 81.6% Greek_Central" "2.8088"
[9,] "14.8% Iran_Bandari + 85.2% Greek_Thessaly" "2.9622"
[10,] "12.4% Iran_Bandari + 87.6% Bulgarian_Thrace" "3.0135"
[11,] "11.9% Xiongnu-Turk_DA38 + 88.1% Greek_Peloponnese" "3.1816"
[12,] "20% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA101 + 80% Greek_Athens" "3.1978"
[13,] "18.5% Iran_Khorasan + 81.5% Greek_Thessaly" "3.2856"
[14,] "14.2% Iran_Bandari + 85.8% Greek_Thrace" "3.3355"
[15,] "84.8% Bulgarian_Thrace + 15.2% Turkmen_Uzbekistan" "3.3459"
[16,] "15.3% Iran_Khorasan + 84.7% Bulgarian_Thrace" "3.4059"
[17,] "82.1% Greek_Thrace + 17.9% Turkmen_Uzbekistan" "3.4343"
[18,] "81.9% Greek_Thessaly + 18.1% Turkmen_Uzbekistan" "3.4443"
[19,] "12.7% Gokturk_DA89 + 87.3% Greek_Peloponnese" "3.5382"
[20,] "15% Iran_Bandari + 85% Greek_Thessaloniki" "3.6592"
Kaspias
10-18-2020, 09:24 PM
A new match of my father, 4th cousin according to Gedmatch:
Father is Crimean Tatar from Constanta, mother is Balkan Turk from Razgrad.
Gedmatch
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 26.11
2 North_European 24.04
3 Atlantic_Med 19.42
4 Gedrosia 11.59
5 Southwest_Asian 5.44
6 East_Asian 4.41
7 Siberian 3.66
8 Southeast_Asian 2.43
9 Northwest_African 1.72
10 South_Asian 1.15
11 Sub_Saharan 0.02
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 14.91
2 Romanians (Behar) 15.8
3 O_Italian (Dodecad) 16.02
4 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 16.19
5 Greek (Dodecad) 17.19
6 C_Italian (Dodecad) 19.17
7 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 20.25
8 Tuscan (HGDP) 20.44
9 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 20.62
10 TSI30 (Metspalu) 20.82
11 Sicilian (Dodecad) 20.87
12 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 20.9
13 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 21.28
14 N_Italian (Dodecad) 22.21
15 Turkish (Dodecad) 23.82
16 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 24.85
17 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 24.93
18 North_Italian (HGDP) 25.02
19 Turks (Behar) 25.03
20 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 25.41
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 61.4% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 38.6% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 5.12
2 62% Romanians (Behar) + 38% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 5.18
3 62.1% Turks (Behar) + 37.9% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 5.42
4 63.7% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 36.3% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 5.45
5 62.1% Turks (Behar) + 37.9% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 5.95
6 63.4% Turkish (Dodecad) + 36.6% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 5.95
7 57.9% Turks (Behar) + 42.1% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 6.02
8 60.9% Turks (Behar) + 39.1% Orkney (1000Genomes) @ 6.1
9 56.5% Turks (Behar) + 43.5% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) @ 6.15
10 64.2% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 35.8% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 6.2
11 63.4% Turkish (Dodecad) + 36.6% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 6.24
12 60.2% Turks (Behar) + 39.8% Argyll (1000Genomes) @ 6.26
13 55.2% Turks (Behar) + 44.8% German (Dodecad) @ 6.26
14 60.2% Turks (Behar) + 39.8% British_Isles (Dodecad) @ 6.26
15 60.9% Turks (Behar) + 39.1% Orcadian (HGDP) @ 6.27
16 59.1% Turks (Behar) + 40.9% CEU30 (1000Genomes) @ 6.3
17 59.2% Turks (Behar) + 40.8% English (Dodecad) @ 6.33
18 60.8% Turks (Behar) + 39.2% Irish (Dodecad) @ 6.36
19 58.9% Turks (Behar) + 41.1% Kent (1000Genomes) @ 6.47
20 60.2% Turks (Behar) + 39.8% British (Dodecad) @ 6.66
Updated oracle
[1,] "Turk_Trakya" "5.4816"
[2,] "Turk_Deliorman" "7.0581"
[3,] "Crimean_Tatar_Mountain" "8.6313"
[4,] "Turk_Makedonya" "9.4604"
[5,] "Bulgarian_Thrace" "11.198"
[6,] "MD_Gagauz" "11.2172"
[7,] "Bulgarian_East" "12.0141"
[8,] "Greek_Macedonia" "12.3881"
[9,] "Greek_Thessaly" "12.9086"
[10,] "Greek_Peloponnese" "12.9116"
[11,] "Greek_Thrace" "12.9492"
[12,] "Greek_Thessaloniki" "13.0448"
[13,] "Bulgarian_Central" "13.7921"
[14,] "Greek_Central" "14.098"
[15,] "MD_South" "14.1412"
[16,] "Albanian_Kosovo" "14.217"
[17,] "Turk_Northwest" "14.4135"
[18,] "Pomak" "14.4265"
[19,] "Bulgarian_West" "14.4883"
[20,] "Greek_Athens" "14.8585"
[1,] "69.1% MD_Gagauz + 30.9% Turkmen_Uzbekistan" "2.9747"
[2,] "29.6% German + 70.4% Turk_Northwest" "2.9801"
[3,] "33.6% German + 66.4% Turk_Southwest" "2.9834"
[4,] "27% Swedish + 73% Turk_Northwest" "3.0045"
[5,] "30.7% Swedish + 69.3% Turk_Southwest" "3.0129"
[6,] "48.6% HUN_Szekely + 51.4% Yoruk" "3.0701"
[7,] "27.6% Icelandic + 72.4% Turk_Northwest" "3.1291"
[8,] "37% Swedish + 63% Turk_Central_Black_Sea" "3.1466"
[9,] "71.1% Bulgarian_Thrace + 28.9% Uzbek" "3.1559"
[10,] "13.1% Tajiks + 86.9% Turk_Trakya" "3.1568"
[11,] "15.6% Tajik_Tajikistan + 84.4% Turk_Trakya" "3.18"
[12,] "40.1% Slovenian + 59.9% Yoruk" "3.2281"
[13,] "79.6% Turk_Deliorman + 20.4% Turkmen" "3.2825"
[14,] "74.8% Turk_Makedonya + 25.2% Uzbek" "3.2889"
[15,] "40% German + 60% Turk_Central_Black_Sea" "3.3346"
[16,] "31.4% Icelandic + 68.6% Turk_Southwest" "3.3527"
[17,] "66.9% Greek_Macedonia + 33.1% Turkmen_Uzbekistan" "3.3605"
[18,] "67.7% Bulgarian_East + 32.3% Turkmen_Uzbekistan" "3.3725"
[19,] "37.7% Icelandic + 62.3% Turk_Central_Black_Sea" "3.3792"
[20,] "79.4% Turk_Deliorman + 20.6% Turkmen_Iran" "3.385"
Ancient & Modern
[1,] "66.9% Greek_Macedonia + 33.1% Turkmen_Uzbekistan" "3.3605"
[2,] "67.7% Bulgarian_East + 32.3% Turkmen_Uzbekistan" "3.3725"
[3,] "32.8% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA101 + 67.2% Greek_Athens" "3.5752"
[4,] "31.6% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA101 + 68.4% Greek_Central" "3.6666"
[5,] "69.6% Bulgarian_Thrace + 30.4% Turkmen_Uzbekistan" "3.9291"
[6,] "29.4% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA101 + 70.6% Greek_Peloponnese" "4.0326"
[7,] "24.8% Xiongnu-Turk_DA38 + 75.2% Greek_Central" "4.1313"
[8,] "23% Xiongnu-Turk_DA38 + 77% Greek_Peloponnese" "4.1517"
[9,] "64.6% Bulgarian_Central + 35.4% Turkmen_Uzbekistan" "4.1734"
[10,] "21.4% Karluk_DA222 + 78.6% Bulgarian_Thrace" "4.1986"
[11,] "33.8% Kipchak_DA179 + 66.2% Bulgarian_Thrace" "4.3171"
[12,] "25.7% Xiongnu-Turk_DA38 + 74.3% Greek_Athens" "4.3814"
[13,] "63.5% Bulgarian_West + 36.5% Turkmen_Uzbekistan" "4.4862"
[14,] "30.4% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA85 + 69.6% Greek_Athens" "4.5347"
[15,] "23.1% Karluk_DA230 + 76.9% Bulgarian_Thrace" "4.5366"
[16,] "28.3% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA100 + 71.7% Greek_Central" "4.7061"
[17,] "25.9% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA385 + 74.1% Greek_Central" "4.7094"
[18,] "22.9% Xiongnu-Turk_DA38 + 77.1% Greek_Thessaloniki" "4.7383"
[19,] "26.3% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA100 + 73.7% Greek_Peloponnese" "4.7985"
[20,] "29.1% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA85 + 70.9% Greek_Central" "4.7996"
Thracian
10-19-2020, 06:43 AM
A new match of my father, 4th cousin according to Gedmatch:
Father is Crimean Tatar from Constanta, mother is Balkan Turk from Razgrad.
Gedmatch
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 26.11
2 North_European 24.04
3 Atlantic_Med 19.42
4 Gedrosia 11.59
5 Southwest_Asian 5.44
6 East_Asian 4.41
7 Siberian 3.66
8 Southeast_Asian 2.43
9 Northwest_African 1.72
10 South_Asian 1.15
11 Sub_Saharan 0.02
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 14.91
2 Romanians (Behar) 15.8
3 O_Italian (Dodecad) 16.02
4 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 16.19
5 Greek (Dodecad) 17.19
6 C_Italian (Dodecad) 19.17
7 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 20.25
8 Tuscan (HGDP) 20.44
9 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 20.62
10 TSI30 (Metspalu) 20.82
11 Sicilian (Dodecad) 20.87
12 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 20.9
13 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 21.28
14 N_Italian (Dodecad) 22.21
15 Turkish (Dodecad) 23.82
16 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 24.85
17 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 24.93
18 North_Italian (HGDP) 25.02
19 Turks (Behar) 25.03
20 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 25.41
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 61.4% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 38.6% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 5.12
2 62% Romanians (Behar) + 38% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 5.18
3 62.1% Turks (Behar) + 37.9% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 5.42
4 63.7% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 36.3% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 5.45
5 62.1% Turks (Behar) + 37.9% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 5.95
6 63.4% Turkish (Dodecad) + 36.6% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 5.95
7 57.9% Turks (Behar) + 42.1% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 6.02
8 60.9% Turks (Behar) + 39.1% Orkney (1000Genomes) @ 6.1
9 56.5% Turks (Behar) + 43.5% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) @ 6.15
10 64.2% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 35.8% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 6.2
11 63.4% Turkish (Dodecad) + 36.6% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 6.24
12 60.2% Turks (Behar) + 39.8% Argyll (1000Genomes) @ 6.26
13 55.2% Turks (Behar) + 44.8% German (Dodecad) @ 6.26
14 60.2% Turks (Behar) + 39.8% British_Isles (Dodecad) @ 6.26
15 60.9% Turks (Behar) + 39.1% Orcadian (HGDP) @ 6.27
16 59.1% Turks (Behar) + 40.9% CEU30 (1000Genomes) @ 6.3
17 59.2% Turks (Behar) + 40.8% English (Dodecad) @ 6.33
18 60.8% Turks (Behar) + 39.2% Irish (Dodecad) @ 6.36
19 58.9% Turks (Behar) + 41.1% Kent (1000Genomes) @ 6.47
20 60.2% Turks (Behar) + 39.8% British (Dodecad) @ 6.66
Updated oracle
[1,] "Turk_Trakya" "5.4816"
[2,] "Turk_Deliorman" "7.0581"
[3,] "Crimean_Tatar_Mountain" "8.6313"
[4,] "Turk_Makedonya" "9.4604"
[5,] "Bulgarian_Thrace" "11.198"
[6,] "MD_Gagauz" "11.2172"
[7,] "Bulgarian_East" "12.0141"
[8,] "Greek_Macedonia" "12.3881"
[9,] "Greek_Thessaly" "12.9086"
[10,] "Greek_Peloponnese" "12.9116"
[11,] "Greek_Thrace" "12.9492"
[12,] "Greek_Thessaloniki" "13.0448"
[13,] "Bulgarian_Central" "13.7921"
[14,] "Greek_Central" "14.098"
[15,] "MD_South" "14.1412"
[16,] "Albanian_Kosovo" "14.217"
[17,] "Turk_Northwest" "14.4135"
[18,] "Pomak" "14.4265"
[19,] "Bulgarian_West" "14.4883"
[20,] "Greek_Athens" "14.8585"
[1,] "69.1% MD_Gagauz + 30.9% Turkmen_Uzbekistan" "2.9747"
[2,] "29.6% German + 70.4% Turk_Northwest" "2.9801"
[3,] "33.6% German + 66.4% Turk_Southwest" "2.9834"
[4,] "27% Swedish + 73% Turk_Northwest" "3.0045"
[5,] "30.7% Swedish + 69.3% Turk_Southwest" "3.0129"
[6,] "48.6% HUN_Szekely + 51.4% Yoruk" "3.0701"
[7,] "27.6% Icelandic + 72.4% Turk_Northwest" "3.1291"
[8,] "37% Swedish + 63% Turk_Central_Black_Sea" "3.1466"
[9,] "71.1% Bulgarian_Thrace + 28.9% Uzbek" "3.1559"
[10,] "13.1% Tajiks + 86.9% Turk_Trakya" "3.1568"
[11,] "15.6% Tajik_Tajikistan + 84.4% Turk_Trakya" "3.18"
[12,] "40.1% Slovenian + 59.9% Yoruk" "3.2281"
[13,] "79.6% Turk_Deliorman + 20.4% Turkmen" "3.2825"
[14,] "74.8% Turk_Makedonya + 25.2% Uzbek" "3.2889"
[15,] "40% German + 60% Turk_Central_Black_Sea" "3.3346"
[16,] "31.4% Icelandic + 68.6% Turk_Southwest" "3.3527"
[17,] "66.9% Greek_Macedonia + 33.1% Turkmen_Uzbekistan" "3.3605"
[18,] "67.7% Bulgarian_East + 32.3% Turkmen_Uzbekistan" "3.3725"
[19,] "37.7% Icelandic + 62.3% Turk_Central_Black_Sea" "3.3792"
[20,] "79.4% Turk_Deliorman + 20.6% Turkmen_Iran" "3.385"
Ancient & Modern
[1,] "66.9% Greek_Macedonia + 33.1% Turkmen_Uzbekistan" "3.3605"
[2,] "67.7% Bulgarian_East + 32.3% Turkmen_Uzbekistan" "3.3725"
[3,] "32.8% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA101 + 67.2% Greek_Athens" "3.5752"
[4,] "31.6% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA101 + 68.4% Greek_Central" "3.6666"
[5,] "69.6% Bulgarian_Thrace + 30.4% Turkmen_Uzbekistan" "3.9291"
[6,] "29.4% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA101 + 70.6% Greek_Peloponnese" "4.0326"
[7,] "24.8% Xiongnu-Turk_DA38 + 75.2% Greek_Central" "4.1313"
[8,] "23% Xiongnu-Turk_DA38 + 77% Greek_Peloponnese" "4.1517"
[9,] "64.6% Bulgarian_Central + 35.4% Turkmen_Uzbekistan" "4.1734"
[10,] "21.4% Karluk_DA222 + 78.6% Bulgarian_Thrace" "4.1986"
[11,] "33.8% Kipchak_DA179 + 66.2% Bulgarian_Thrace" "4.3171"
[12,] "25.7% Xiongnu-Turk_DA38 + 74.3% Greek_Athens" "4.3814"
[13,] "63.5% Bulgarian_West + 36.5% Turkmen_Uzbekistan" "4.4862"
[14,] "30.4% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA85 + 69.6% Greek_Athens" "4.5347"
[15,] "23.1% Karluk_DA230 + 76.9% Bulgarian_Thrace" "4.5366"
[16,] "28.3% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA100 + 71.7% Greek_Central" "4.7061"
[17,] "25.9% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA385 + 74.1% Greek_Central" "4.7094"
[18,] "22.9% Xiongnu-Turk_DA38 + 77.1% Greek_Thessaloniki" "4.7383"
[19,] "26.3% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA100 + 73.7% Greek_Peloponnese" "4.7985"
[20,] "29.1% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA85 + 70.9% Greek_Central" "4.7996"
Can you also share updated SS?
Kaspias
10-19-2020, 09:56 AM
Can you also share updated SS?
Sure, here (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1d92fgMlqASyZyVRweSAsJG8H4H94FSqU/view?usp=sharing).
balturkmodern(c(xxx),k=20,mixedmode=T)
Thracian
10-20-2020, 09:37 AM
Sure, here (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1d92fgMlqASyZyVRweSAsJG8H4H94FSqU/view?usp=sharing).
balturkmodern(c(xxx),k=20,mixedmode=T)
Thank you. Not too different than hybrid one but I prefer hybrid one.
Abriekman
10-22-2020, 03:13 PM
Is there any way to tell If I have Balkan Turkish ancestry instead of Sephardic Jewish, i mean most likely i have both, considering my ancestor was from Silistra province, but what is more?
On Eurogenes K13 i can model my self as 87,5 East Europea 6,25 Bulgarian 6,25 Middle Eastern
or also in that way
Target: Abriekman
Distance: 4.4122% / 4.41220944
85.4 Polish
14.6 Turk_Drama
Target: Abriekman
Distance: 4.6782% / 4.67823487
89.6 Polish
5.6 Bulgaria_average
4.8 Turkmen
Maybe you can recommend good calculator for detecting it or rejecting it.
Genealogically I did not prove my Sephardic ancestry, I proved it only by matches, G25 and other tests, so I do not know exact percentage
Kaspias
10-22-2020, 09:19 PM
Is there any way to tell If I have Balkan Turkish ancestry instead of Sephardic Jewish, i mean most likely i have both, considering my ancestor was from Silistra province, but what is more?
On Eurogenes K13 i can model my self as 87,5 East Europea 6,25 Bulgarian 6,25 Middle Eastern
or also in that way
Target: Abriekman
Distance: 4.4122% / 4.41220944
85.4 Polish
14.6 Turk_Drama
Target: Abriekman
Distance: 4.6782% / 4.67823487
89.6 Polish
5.6 Bulgaria_average
4.8 Turkmen
Maybe you can recommend good calculator for detecting it or rejecting it.
Genealogically I did not prove my Sephardic ancestry, I proved it only by matches, G25 and other tests, so I do not know exact percentage
I just saw you commented on here. I think already got the answer in the other thread?
Abriekman
10-28-2020, 09:10 PM
I just saw you commented on here. I think already got the answer in the other thread?
Yes, thank you. You said I have Bulgarian matches from Tarnovo and Vratsa, if you can please sent me that kits in PM
Kaspias
10-31-2020, 08:28 PM
New sample:
He is from Sofia Province, one of the rarest samples I have.
1/2 Etropole, 1/2 Izladi.(Zlatitsa)
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 28.67
2 North_European 27.34
3 Atlantic_Med 23.21
4 Gedrosia 8.87
5 Southwest_Asian 6.91
6 East_Asian 1.96
7 Northwest_African 1.83
8 Southeast_Asian 0.63
9 Siberian 0.58
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 8.93
2 Romanians (Behar) 10.15
3 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 10.3
4 O_Italian (Dodecad) 11.47
5 Greek (Dodecad) 12.79
6 C_Italian (Dodecad) 15.39
7 Tuscan (HGDP) 16.51
8 TSI30 (Metspalu) 16.83
9 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 18.07
10 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 18.26
11 N_Italian (Dodecad) 18.3
12 Sicilian (Dodecad) 18.37
13 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 18.56
14 North_Italian (HGDP) 21.23
15 Hungarians (Behar) 23.38
16 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 23.77
17 Turkish (Dodecad) 25.27
18 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 25.35
19 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 26.12
20 Turks (Behar) 27.04
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 52.3% Turkish (Dodecad) + 47.7% German (Dodecad) @ 2.89
2 60.4% Turkish (Dodecad) + 39.6% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 3.69
3 50.5% Turks (Behar) + 49.5% German (Dodecad) @ 3.73
4 57% German (Dodecad) + 43% Armenian (Dodecad) @ 3.94
5 60.2% Turkish (Dodecad) + 39.8% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 3.98
6 86.6% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 13.4% Makrani (HGDP) @ 4.21
7 55.6% Turkish (Dodecad) + 44.4% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 4.28
8 57.3% German (Dodecad) + 42.7% Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) @ 4.31
9 57.6% German (Dodecad) + 42.4% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) @ 4.43
10 87.2% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 12.8% Balochi (HGDP) @ 4.46
11 51.2% Armenian (Dodecad) + 48.8% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 4.47
12 88.1% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 11.9% Brahui (HGDP) @ 4.51
13 56.9% German (Dodecad) + 43.1% Georgia_Jews (Behar) @ 4.51
14 79.3% Romanians (Behar) + 20.7% Iranians (Behar) @ 4.54
15 54.1% Turkish (Dodecad) + 45.9% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) @ 4.56
16 57.6% German (Dodecad) + 42.4% Assyrian (Dodecad) @ 4.57
17 79.1% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 20.9% Iranians (Behar) @ 4.58
18 52% Hungarians (Behar) + 48% Turkish (Dodecad) @ 4.59
19 78.8% Romanians (Behar) + 21.2% Kurd (Dodecad) @ 4.64
20 80% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 20% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 4.64
Updated oracle:
[1,] "Turk_Makedonya" "3.373"
[2,] "Turk_Deliorman" "4.3446"
[3,] "Bulgarian_Thrace" "4.3479"
[4,] "Turk_Trakya" "4.7645"
[5,] "MD_Gagauz" "4.8019"
[6,] "Bulgarian_East" "5.1693"
[7,] "Greek_Macedonia" "5.4901"
[8,] "Greek_Thessaly" "6.7535"
[9,] "Greek_Thessaloniki" "6.7628"
[10,] "Greek_Thrace" "6.9061"
[11,] "Bulgarian_Central" "7.5283"
[12,] "Albanian_Kosovo" "7.6917"
[13,] "Greek_Peloponnese" "7.9348"
[14,] "Albanian_North" "8.1858"
[15,] "MD_South" "8.4434"
[16,] "Bulgarian_West" "8.4987"
[17,] "Pomak" "8.5456"
[18,] "Greek_Central" "9.7527"
[19,] "Romanian" "9.7676"
[20,] "Macedonian" "9.7747"
[1,] "13.6% Azerbaijani + 86.4% MD_Gagauz" "1.7827"
[2,] "13.3% Azerbaijani_Turkey + 86.7% MD_Gagauz" "1.7858"
[3,] "12.8% Azerbaijani_Iran + 87.2% MD_Gagauz" "1.8175"
[4,] "84% MD_Gagauz + 16% Turk_Anatolia" "1.84"
[5,] "83.8% MD_Gagauz + 16.2% Turk_Central_West" "1.8462"
[6,] "84.8% MD_Gagauz + 15.2% Turk_South" "1.8548"
[7,] "85.3% MD_Gagauz + 14.7% Turk_Central_East" "1.8578"
[8,] "86% MD_Gagauz + 14% Turk_Southeast" "1.8703"
[9,] "85.4% MD_Gagauz + 14.6% Turk_Central_Black_Sea" "1.8733"
[10,] "82.1% MD_Gagauz + 17.9% Turk_West_BlackSea" "1.8915"
[11,] "82.7% MD_Gagauz + 17.3% Turk_Southwest" "1.9025"
[12,] "84.4% MD_Gagauz + 15.6% Yoruk" "1.9407"
[13,] "88.1% MD_Gagauz + 11.9% Turkmen_Iraq" "1.9679"
[14,] "28.2% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain + 71.8% MD_Gagauz" "1.9733"
[15,] "88.2% MD_Gagauz + 11.8% Zaza" "1.9836"
[16,] "88.7% MD_Gagauz + 11.3% Talysh_Azerbaijan" "1.9948"
[17,] "11.9% Kurd_Kurmanji + 88.1% MD_Gagauz" "2.0166"
[18,] "10.7% Kurd_KAZ + 89.3% MD_Gagauz" "2.0191"
[19,] "80.9% MD_Gagauz + 19.1% Turk_Northwest" "2.0196"
[20,] "82.3% Greek_Macedonia + 17.7% Yoruk" "2.0317"
[21,] "88.1% MD_Gagauz + 11.9% Udi_Azerbaijan" "2.0759"
[22,] "87.7% MD_Gagauz + 12.3% Turk_East" "2.0803"
[23,] "70.9% Macedonian + 29.1% Turk_Anatolia" "2.0817"
[24,] "72.9% Macedonian + 27.1% Turk_Central_East" "2.0932"
[25,] "31.5% Armenian_West + 68.5% HUN_Szekely" "2.0995"
[26,] "10.4% Lur_Iran + 89.6% MD_Gagauz" "2.1045"
[27,] "83.4% Bulgarian_East + 16.6% Yoruk" "2.1077"
[28,] "70.5% Macedonian + 29.5% Turk_Central_West" "2.1145"
[29,] "10.5% Iranian + 89.5% MD_Gagauz" "2.1194"
[30,] "24.7% Azerbaijani_Turkey + 75.3% Macedonian" "2.12"
Kaspias
11-09-2020, 03:25 PM
A new module applied in Vahaduo gave me chance to see the accuracy of my former "In search of ancestors" projects. The working process is exactly the same as what I did in the past.
B(Turk) - A(Native) = C
Dodecad K12b Modern
*Turkish_Makedonya can't be represented with only one native reference. It is not suitable for modeling.
Distance difference: ( AC - BC ) ↓
A: Bulgarian_Thrace
B: Turk_Trakya
C: ↴
6.75437920 Turkmen_Afghanistan
6.68579086 Uzbeks
6.64276950 Uzbek
6.60579803 Turkmen_TKM
6.47167262 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
6.46890576 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
6.45967513 Nogai_Astrakhan
6.44306528 Karakalpak
6.37104613 Uyghur
6.36837698 Hazara
6.25675412 Kazakh
6.24480322 Altai
6.20657164 Kyrgyz
6.17088720 Bashkir
6.13455058 Kyrgyz_Bishkek
6.03573063 Tuva
5.95066455 Kalmyk
5.94817505 Buryat
5.92777984 Mongol_Khalka
5.74709863 Oroqen
5.62638649 Tajik_Tajikistan
5.56881922 Nogai
5.53727712 Mongol
5.50655691 Tajik_Balkh
5.46877005 Turkmen
Distance difference: ( AC - BC ) ↓
A: Bulgarian_East
B: Turk_Deliorman
C: ↴
5.66332878 Turkmen_TKM
5.65464740 Uzbek
5.65246915 Turkmen_Afghanistan
5.61281488 Uzbeks
5.58844964 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
5.44429810 Hazara
5.41887094 Uyghur
5.27208127 Karakalpak
5.24395556 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
5.21496330 Nogai_Astrakhan
5.10310694 Kyrgyz
5.08923216 Kazakh
5.03189509 Turkmen
5.03143793 Kyrgyz_Bishkek
5.01193371 Tajik_Tajikistan
5.01137953 Tajik_Balkh
4.98116551 Turkmen_Iran
4.95583847 Altai
4.87000485 Nogai
4.86177914 Kalmyk
4.84927762 Mongol_Khalka
4.82487290 Tajiks
4.80780218 Buryat
4.78829589 Tuva
4.70274403 Oroqen
Dodecad K12b Ancient
Distance difference: ( AC - BC ) ↓
A: Bulgarian_East
B: Turk_Deliorman
C: ↴
5.53029586 Karluk:DA222
5.43380575 Kipchak:DA179
5.37607899 Karluk:DA230
5.23371580 Ottoman:MA2195
5.20029410 Karakhanid:DA204
5.08543245 Ottoman:MA2196
4.98071435 Xiongnu-Turk:DA38
4.91352245 Xiongnu-Turk:DA41
4.81777296 Kipchak:DA23
4.79527550 Hun_Tian_Shan:DA96
4.77263632 KAZ_Nomad_MA:DA93
4.76188755 Hun_Tian_Shan:DA65
4.72160211 Hun_Tian_Shan:DA101
4.71598538 Hun_Sarmatian:DA27
4.70886658 Hun_Tian_Shan:DA100
4.68621806 Golden_Horde:DA28
4.64278031 Hun_Tian_Shan:DA385
4.56524563 Gokturk:DA89
4.56005174 Xiongnu-Mongol:DA39
4.43420759 Hazar-Bulgar:DA142
4.42033522 KAZ_Nomad_MA:DA126
4.28969925 Hun_Tian_Shan:DA74
4.23915921 Saka_Tian_Shan:DA47
4.22632222 Gokturk:DA228
4.20115530 Saka_Steppe:DA13
Distance difference: ( AC - BC ) ↓
A: Bulgarian_Thrace
B: Turk_Trakya
C: ↴
6.69264186 Karluk:DA222
6.59690131 Karakhanid:DA204
6.50996842 Ottoman:MA2195
6.50726950 Karluk:DA230
6.38680767 Xiongnu-Turk:DA38
6.33867150 KAZ_Nomad_MA:DA93
6.32041991 Xiongnu-Turk:DA41
6.31247118 Kipchak:DA179
6.24916339 Kipchak:DA23
6.17568934 Hun_Tian_Shan:DA100
6.16317107 Hun_Tian_Shan:DA385
6.07897295 Hun_Tian_Shan:DA65
6.04223800 Hun_Tian_Shan:DA96
6.01714034 Hun_Tian_Shan:DA101
5.95087383 Hazar-Bulgar:DA142
5.91295072 Gokturk:DA89
5.83158884 Saka_Steppe:DA13
5.82315022 Golden_Horde:DA28
5.80103092 Hun_Sarmatian:DA27
5.79859743 Hun_Tian_Shan:DA74
5.74453030 Ottoman:MA2196
5.62468594 KAZ_Nomad_MA:DA126
5.60802098 Saka_Tian_Shan:DA56
5.57104941 Saka_Tian_Shan:DA47
5.41662677 Xiongnu-Mongol:DA39
Global25 Ancient
**I have changed references here. Greek_Central_Macedonia is more suitable for Rumelia because it includes Macedonian samples as well. In addition, Bulgarian admixture is pretty much Northern shifted for Thracian Bulgarians. On the other hand, Gagauz, being from Eastern Bulgaria, is a proper sample for Deliorman.
Distance difference: ( AC - BC ) ↓
A: Gagauz
B: Turkish_Deliorman
C: ↴
0.03399770 KAZ_Turk:DA89
0.03382828 MNG_Early_Med_Uigur:OLN009
0.03381976 CHN_Shirenzigou_IA:M010
0.03381329 MNG_Early_Med_Uigur:OLN012
0.03381208 KAZ_Karluk:DA230
0.03379396 MNG_UAA001:UAA001
0.03377808 Scythian_Zevakino_Chilikta_IA:Ze6b
0.03377796 KAZ_Karluk:DA222
0.03374500 KAZ_Karakhanid:DA204
0.03374089 RUS_Late_Xiongnu_Sarmatian:UGU006
0.03371165 MNG_Munkhkhairkhan_MBA_2:I13173
0.03370097 KAZ_Nomad_MA:DA94
0.03370049 KAZ_Karakhanid:DA203
0.03369677 RUS_Late_Xiongnu:SOL001
0.03369254 MNG_Early_Med_Uigur:OLN010
0.03367099 RUS_Late_Xiongnu_Sarmatian:NAI002
0.03366597 Hun_Tian_Shan:DA73
0.03365647 MNG_Xiongnu_Central_Asian:DA38
0.03364513 MNG_Early_Xiongnu_rest:SKT005
0.03361686 KAZ_Kipchak:DA179
0.03360521 Hun_Tian_Shan:DA66
0.03359758 TUR_Ottoman:MA2195
0.03359406 KAZ_Karakhanid:DA205
0.03356540 CHN_Shirenzigou_IA:F004
0.03355006 MNG_KHI001:KHI001
Distance difference: ( AC - BC ) ↓
A: Greek_Central_Macedonia
B: Turkish_Rumeli
C: ↴
0.05613252 KAZ_Turk:DA89
0.05592252 MNG_Early_Med_Uigur:OLN012
0.05590316 Hun_Tian_Shan:DA69
0.05575171 MNG_Early_Med_Uigur:OLN010
0.05564711 RUS_Late_Xiongnu_Sarmatian:BUR004
0.05550460 MNG_EIA_5:I13965
0.05540283 Hun_Tian_Shan:DA73
0.05532431 KAZ_Kipchak:DA179
0.05530223 MNG_Early_Xiongnu_west:SKT008
0.05523477 Hun_Tian_Shan:DA52
0.05514785 Hun_Tian_Shan:DA72
0.05511287 CHN_Shirenzigou_IA:M819
0.05510596 Saka_Tian_Shan:DA50
0.05510024 Hun_Tian_Shan:DA104
0.05508667 MNG_Xiongnu_Central_Asian:DA38
0.05504008 KAZ_Karakhanid:DA204
0.05503543 MNG_Munkhkhairkhan_MBA_2:I13173
0.05503355 MNG_UAA001:UAA001
0.05503000 MNG_KHI001:KHI001
0.05499387 KAZ_Karluk:DA222
0.05496235 KAZ_Nomad_MA:DA94
0.05495940 MNG_Early_Med_Uigur:OLN009
0.05495880 Hun_Tian_Shan:DA101
0.05493101 Hun_Tian_Shan:DA74
0.05492924 Scythian_Zevakino_Chilikta_IA:Ze6b
Global25 Modern
Distance difference: ( AC - BC ) ↓
A: Greek_Central_Macedonia
B: Turkish_Rumeli
C: ↴
0.05598093 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
0.05580473 Turkmen
0.05532296 Uzbek
0.05517901 Hazara_Afghanistan
0.05476874 Hazara
0.05464587 Uygur
0.05403597 Tatar_Crimean_steppe
0.05386488 Tubalar
0.05368459 Karakalpak
0.05368351 Tatar_Siberian
0.05365362 Shor
0.05359966 Nogai
0.05356867 Shor_Khakassia
0.05352454 Shor_Mountain
0.05344461 Khakass
0.05331678 Kazakh
0.05323746 Kirghiz_China
0.05322801 Khakass_Kachins
0.05318481 Altaian
0.05314969 Bashkir
0.05297203 Kirghiz
0.05293085 Kazakh_China
0.05277685 Mogush
0.05275229 Tuvinian
0.05237166 Kalmyk
Distance difference: ( AC - BC ) ↓
A: Gagauz
B: Turkish_Deliorman
C: ↴
0.03395537 Uzbek
0.03384418 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
0.03377631 Hazara_Afghanistan
0.03375419 Turkmen
0.03371481 Hazara
0.03356250 Uygur
0.03333088 Tatar_Siberian
0.03330691 Nogai
0.03329001 Karakalpak
0.03324058 Tatar_Crimean_steppe
0.03318257 Bashkir
0.03306982 Kazakh
0.03303551 Kirghiz_China
0.03297478 Tubalar
0.03293951 Khakass
0.03292570 Kirghiz
0.03287260 Shor
0.03286286 Kazakh_China
0.03286037 Altaian
0.03280754 Khakass_Kachins
0.03276588 Shor_Mountain
0.03267985 Shor_Khakassia
0.03258999 Mogush
0.03257422 Kalmyk
0.03253668 Mongolian
Anatolian Turks for comparison
***Some regions can't be modeled properly as spreadsheet lacking required native references. I'm posting the runs which are decent.
****I have used G25.
Turkish_Central
Distance difference: ( AC - BC ) ↓
A: Greek_Central_Anatolia
B: Turkish_Central
C: ↴
0.06712505 MNG_Early_Xiongnu_rest:SKT005
0.06704143 MNG_Early_Med_Uigur:OLN010
0.06678237 MNG_UAA001:UAA001
0.06663172 MNG_Xiongnu_Central_Asian:DA38
0.06655743 MNG_Munkhkhairkhan_MBA_2:I13173
0.06652768 KAZ_Karluk:DA230
0.06649372 KAZ_Karakhanid:DA204
0.06646754 CHN_Shirenzigou_IA:F004
0.06630774 KAZ_Turk:DA89
0.06615718 RUS_Late_Xiongnu_Sarmatian:UGU006
0.06613033 MNG_Xiongnu_Central_Asian:DA41
0.06610260 CHN_Shirenzigou_IA:M819
0.06607928 CHN_Shirenzigou_IA:M010
0.06602810 MNG_Early_Med_Uigur:OLN009
0.06601484 KAZ_Karluk:DA222
0.06588337 KAZ_Karakhanid:DA203
0.06575951 KAZ_Nomad_MA:DA126
0.06570477 MNG_Early_Med_Turk:NOM001
0.06566118 RUS_Late_Xiongnu:TUK003
0.06551940 CHN_Shirenzigou_IA:M827
0.06547951 Scythian_Zevakino_Chilikta_IA:Ze6b
0.06547752 MNG_EIA_5:I13965
0.06545758 KAZ_Kimak:DA87
0.06539223 MNG_Early_Med_Uigur:OLN012
0.06536585 RUS_Late_Xiongnu:SOL001
Distance difference: ( AC - BC ) ↓
A: Greek_Central_Anatolia
B: Turkish_Central
C: ↴
0.06721246 Turkmen
0.06694375 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
0.06686103 Uzbek
0.06612245 Hazara_Afghanistan
0.06609391 Hazara
0.06589984 Uygur
0.06495852 Tubalar
0.06466104 Shor
0.06448518 Karakalpak
0.06442561 Shor_Mountain
0.06440423 Nogai
0.06438531 Khakass
0.06434006 Shor_Khakassia
0.06415883 Kazakh
0.06413351 Kirghiz_China
0.06401862 Tatar_Siberian
0.06389828 Kirghiz
0.06388869 Kazakh_China
0.06351341 Altaian
0.06337052 Khakass_Kachins
0.06333453 Bashkir
0.06327108 Tajik
0.06291392 Kalmyk
0.06281949 Mogush
0.06274997 Mongolian
Turkish_South
Distance difference: ( AC - BC ) ↓
A: Cypriot
B: Turkish_South
C: ↴
0.10573027 MNG_Early_Med_Uigur:OLN010
0.10501072 KAZ_Turk:DA89
0.10418600 MNG_EIA_5:I13965
0.10390888 MNG_Xiongnu_Central_Asian:DA38
0.10368030 CHN_Shirenzigou_IA:M819
0.10354058 MNG_UAA001:UAA001
0.10318395 MNG_Munkhkhairkhan_MBA_2:I13173
0.10313597 MNG_Early_Xiongnu_rest:SKT005
0.10302141 CHN_Shirenzigou_IA:F004
0.10291720 RUS_Late_Xiongnu_Sarmatian:BUR004
0.10284986 RUS_Late_Xiongnu:SOL001
0.10278050 MNG_Early_Med_Uigur:OLN011
0.10277506 Saka_Tian_Shan:DA50
0.10275782 MNG_Early_Med_Uigur:OLN012
0.10272010 MNG_Xiongnu_Central_Asian:DA41
0.10255701 RUS_Late_Xiongnu_Sarmatian:UGU006
0.10254588 Hun_Tian_Shan:DA385
0.10236483 MNG_Early_Xiongnu_west:SKT001
0.10235386 MNG_Early_Xiongnu_west:SKT009
0.10214049 Hun_Tian_Shan:DA74
0.10206861 MNG_Early_Med_Turk:NOM001
0.10194416 RUS_Late_Xiongnu:DEL001
0.10193704 Hun_Tian_Shan:DA96
0.10193264 Hun_Tian_Shan:DA69
0.10192757 MNG_KHI001:KHI001
Distance difference: ( AC - BC ) ↓
A: Cypriot
B: Turkish_South
C: ↴
0.10491049 Turkmen
0.10382077 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
0.10314457 Uzbek
0.10170920 Hazara_Afghanistan
0.10107299 Hazara
0.10101428 Uygur
0.10030411 Tubalar
0.09949097 Tatar_Siberian
0.09944220 Shor
0.09921315 Nogai
0.09907735 Shor_Mountain
0.09881810 Shor_Khakassia
0.09877423 Karakalpak
0.09870385 Bashkir
0.09856275 Khakass
0.09822780 Tajik
0.09822720 Kazakh
0.09744072 Kirghiz_China
0.09729768 Kirghiz
0.09725519 Khakass_Kachins
0.09696982 Altaian
0.09691703 Kazakh_China
0.09689964 Tatar_Siberian_Zabolotniye
0.09606929 Mogush
0.09585940 Tuvinian
Turkish_Southwest
Distance difference: ( AC - BC ) ↓
A: Greek_Kos
B: Turkish_Southwest
C: ↴
0.09608428 MNG_Early_Med_Uigur:OLN010
0.09539264 KAZ_Turk:DA89
0.09501587 MNG_UAA001:UAA001
0.09501096 MNG_Early_Med_Uigur:OLN012
0.09482842 KAZ_Karluk:DA222
0.09478618 MNG_Munkhkhairkhan_MBA_2:I13173
0.09441015 KAZ_Karakhanid:DA204
0.09435046 MNG_Early_Med_Uigur:OLN009
0.09426969 KAZ_Karakhanid:DA203
0.09404788 KAZ_Karakhanid:DA205
0.09402829 MNG_EIA_5:I13965
0.09398952 CHN_Shirenzigou_IA:M819
0.09389805 TUR_Ottoman:MA2195
0.09385884 MNG_Xiongnu_Central_Asian:DA38
0.09382427 MNG_KHI001:KHI001
0.09372942 RUS_Late_Xiongnu_Sarmatian:BUR004
0.09367285 CHN_Shirenzigou_IA:F004
0.09366187 KAZ_Karluk:DA230
0.09366135 RUS_Late_Xiongnu_Sarmatian:UGU006
0.09365552 MNG_Xiongnu_Central_Asian:DA41
0.09363926 MNG_Early_Xiongnu_rest:SKT005
0.09339262 TUR_Ottoman:MA2196
0.09337961 RUS_Late_Xiongnu:TUK003
0.09334429 KAZ_Nomad_MA:DA126
0.09331270 MNG_Ulgii_EBA_1:I13180
Distance difference: ( AC - BC ) ↓
A: Greek_Kos
B: Turkish_Southwest
C: ↴
0.09677679 Turkmen
0.09660650 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
0.09544669 Uzbek
0.09521957 Hazara_Afghanistan
0.09477953 Hazara
0.09437459 Uygur
0.09255296 Karakalpak
0.09241576 Tubalar
0.09222126 Kazakh
0.09219442 Nogai
0.09214511 Shor
0.09202707 Kirghiz_China
0.09194750 Khakass
0.09171887 Kirghiz
0.09170171 Altaian
0.09169165 Khakass_Kachins
0.09162842 Shor_Mountain
0.09157464 Kazakh_China
0.09146480 Shor_Khakassia
0.09115293 Tatar_Siberian
0.09111411 Mogush
0.09097867 Tuvinian
0.09070923 Kalmyk
0.09052430 Buryat
0.09039562 Mongolian
Kaspias
11-09-2020, 03:30 PM
Conclusions regarding all the data we have now:
For an introduction to the context, you may visit: Turkic Migration to the Balkans (https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?316809-Turkic-Migration-to-the-Balkans)
- Anatolian Turks show a continuum, again. There is an Iranian input among Turks which we are not sure about the source. Potentially either thanks to mixes that happened during the Seljuk Empire or the rearguard migrations that are happened during/after 15-16th centuries. From my perspective, the results, in any chance, suggest more than one migration wave to Asia Minor.
- MA2195 might not be an outlier. MA2196 might represent the theory of mixing during the Seljuk era. Therewithal DA222, DA230, and DA89 winking to Oghuz.
- Anatolia and Rumelia influenced equally by the migrations that came from the South of the Hazar.
- Oghuz population in Anatolia was a definitive dominant among all and absorbed any other Turkic population inside if there were. The other Turkic groups who settled in the Rumelia apparently were able to inherit their DNA today as we see the current drift. The region as a whole, although having various sources for Turkic input, they were not numerous as much as Turkic's who had lived in Anatolia.
- It is proved that Balkan Turks have no Anatolian influence on average, again. Actually, the results suggest the Turkic input given to Balkan Turks were more East Eurasian than the Anatolian Turks. At least this is what balanced final admixture shows.
There are some reasons why we see such a situation, and if so, how Balkan Turks have lower East Eurasian scores.
The actual reason is briefly Tatars. Balkan Turks are influenced by those mentioned migrations which happened later and their Turkic form shaped the same as Anatolian Turks as well. Ottoman/Seljuk admixture is definitely dominant here, and the difference I'm talking about is not more than 30%. Parallel to what I have stated, we see models such as x + Turkmen in the majority of Balkan Turks just like what we see in Anatolian Turks. On the other hand, there are also individuals who model with various Tatar populations, even Mongols. They drift the average Turkic DNA slightly.
Yet Ironically Balkan Turks have lower East Eurasian scores. This is a result of most of the Balkan regions, except for Trakya and Deliorman, are not supplied with fresh-comers after a few waves arrived. After all, we see 0% to 3% East Eurasian admixture in regions such as Kastoria, Drama... The regions that have richer Turkic scores usually either got the mentioned Iranian input or the recent Tatar migration took place. Concisely Balkan Turk population expanded through the native population while Turks in Anatolia were numerous against natives.
Role of Celali Rebellions is also a moot point. Balkan Turks usually connected with various regions from Anatolia with IBD. Yes, we don't see the Anatolian influence on averages, but individuals might have it in negligible amounts. Besides, it might be already absorbed in terms of the statistical amounts at all. Lastly, we don't know the DNA profile of Anatolian Turks in the 16-17th century. There is a good potential that they were MA2196-like, and having more East Eurasian than today. This would end up with being no changes in the Balkan Turk DNA profile as it was already Turkmen-like. The isolated Anatolian admixture could not survive more than two generations and would merge with the native Balkan admixture. The truth of the matter is even if they were just like today's Anatolian Turks, there is still an opportunity that Balkan absorbs Anatolian admixture and the Turkic admixture inherits as an isolated admixture and overlapping point.
To sum it up, the expansion of Balkan Turk took place from Turkic to Native. The early Oghuz who registered into Yoruk associations in the 15-16th century were either in pure Oghuz form or mixed in Iran one generation. My personal opinion here, both could be present, yet a great majority can be in Oghuz form still. At the same time with these early-Yoruks also a few Tatar associations were present and functioned the same as Yoruks. A note here that population breakdown according to mentioned associations in the early 1600s is 70% Oghuz - 30% Tatar. Simultaneously, there was probably migration of people who identify as Turkoman and probably were from Iran/Anatolia. These are not registered into Yoruk associations as they are already settled and sent Balkans in order to sustain agricultural production. In the following centuries, Celali Rebellions took place and irregular migrations from Anatolia to the Balkans happened. The process and the input they provided into the DNA pool were explained above. As a final point, Tatar migrations from the Crimean War to the Great War were seen. An era that shaped the genetic formation of Balkan Turks is closed.
For the pre-Ottoman period, there are other measurements that have to be done.
Kaspias
11-09-2020, 04:50 PM
For the pre-Ottoman period, there are other measurements that have to be done.
Although there are pre-Ottoman Turkic settlements all over the Eastern Balkans, we have the most decent data on the region Deliorman.
https://www.saraymedya.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/ge%C3%A7mi%C5%9Ften-g%C3%BCn%C3%BCm%C3%BCze-saray%C3%B6n%C3%BC.jpg
1- Tsardom of Vidin (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsardom_of_Vidin), House of Shisman.
2- Despotate of Dobruja (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Despotate_of_Dobruja), House of Balik.
The name Deliorman was mentioned by the 17th-century Byzantine historian Kedrenos as Teleorman. It is known that Deliorman spread to both sides of the Danube in the Middle Ages. The area between the Aluta and Vede rivers in Romania today is still called Teleorman. The name Deliorman is suspected to be related to the Pecheneg and Cuman Turks who settled on both sides of the Danube in the 11th and 12th centuries. This region had a Turkish majority since the early period of the conquest. Today, still Turks are 50% of the population despite all the migrations that happened.
I intended to run Bulgarian, Gagauz, and Turkish samples from the region.
Bulgarians from the Northeast differs from Western and Central Bulgarians only by carrying additional Levantine/Armenian-like admixture.
Distance difference: ( AC - BC ) ↓
A: Bulgarian_West
B: Bulgarian_Northeast
C: ↴
3.39422491 Armenian_West
3.39084892 Assyrian_West
3.38765172 Assyrian_South
3.38705630 Assyrian_North
3.38471866 Azeri_Jew
3.36948760 Armenian_East
3.36245120 Kurdish_Jew
3.36045855 Turk_East
3.35760307 Iraqi_Jew
3.35546324 Iranian_Jew
Distance difference: ( AC - BC ) ↓
A: Bulgarian_Central
B: Bulgarian_Northeast
C: ↴
2.65418174 Nusayri_Turkey
2.65006877 Assyrian_West
2.64748738 Assyrian_South
2.64673345 Armenian_West
2.64368667 Assyrian_North
2.64110009 Azeri_Jew
2.63429661 Iraqi_Jew
2.63242283 Kurdish_Jew
2.63171321 Greek_Cappadocia
2.62862159 Turk_Cyprus
On the other hand, the Bulgarian population as a whole, differ from Serbs only with the mentioned Eastern shift:
Distance difference: ( AC - BC ) ↓
A: Serb
B: Bulgarian_Northeast
C: ↴
10.64143170 Greek_Cappadocia
10.58851155 Greek_Crete
10.57717363 Bulgarian_East
10.55809580 Greek_Kos
10.55739745 Greek_Izmir
10.54763654 Greek_Cypriot
10.54033631 Turk_Cyprus
10.51109699 Nusayri_Turkey
10.49302208 Armenian_West
10.46789417 Greek_Foca
10.45904213 Bulgarian_Thrace
10.45210899 Greek_Pontus
10.44367869 Assyrian_West
10.40876985 Assyrian_South
10.39404471 Assyrian_North
Distance difference: ( AC - BC ) ↓
A: Serb
B: Bulgarian_West
C: ↴
7.33019104 Greek_Izmir
7.31483276 Greek_Foca
7.30895235 Greek_Crete
7.30311754 Greek_Cappadocia
7.30193114 Greek_Kos
7.28507722 Greek_Cypriot
7.27946354 Bulgarian_Thrace
7.27147772 Greek_Macedonia
7.26584223 Bulgarian_Central
7.25069708 Bulgarian_East
7.24008223 Greek_Peloponnese
7.23827498 Turk_Cyprus
7.23602371 Greek_Thessaloniki
7.22809603 Greek_Athens
7.21688322 Greek_Central
There is the same Levantine-Armenian shift on Gagauz, yet it is balanced with extra Greek-like admixture and extra CHG-admixture. This proves what we know from history; Gagauz absorbed other Christians who live as neighbors to them, Greeks mainly. Adopting Christianism resulted in a shift in Gagauz DNA, and "invader" admixtures are disappeared gradually, remained none today.
Distance difference: ( AC - BC ) ↓
A: Bulgarian_Northeast
B: Gagauz
C: ↴
0.43257758 Greek_Pontus
0.42824381 Greek_Cappadocia
0.42544760 Turk_East_Black_Sea
0.42466071 Laz
0.42296551 Hemshin
0.41940634 Greek_Thessaloniki
0.41316232 Georgian_Adjara
0.41304979 Greek_Foca
0.41179651 Georgian_Imereti
0.41169431 Georgian_Mingrelian
0.40936988 Greek_Izmir
0.40754222 Georgian_Turkey
0.40583973 Georgian_Gurian
0.40151104 Greek_Athens
0.39964800 Greek_Peloponnese
While results are showing that, it is not likely to claim there is a pre-Ottoman Turkic admixture present among Bulgarians; and already had absorbed among Gagauz's.
The question awaits: While we see that pre-Ottoman Turkic admixture among Romanians, while there is none in current Bulgarian borders?
Turkish archives explain the situation like this:
Another group active on the Northeast Bulgarian Turks is the Ottomans. Over time, these three groups(Pechenek/Cuman, Seljuk colonization under Sari Saltuk, Ottomans) have merged and the Turks, who settled in the region before the Ottoman Empire, gradually accepted Islam. It can even be said that the Turks who settled here before the Ottomans facilitated the spread of Islam in this region.
Although adapting Christianism fastened the assimilation, we still see some Romanian/Moldovan individuals who carry a legible amount of Turkic admixture. While this was the case in the North, it is not likely that they were just disappeared in the South. Considering the genetic data and historical records, the only sensible option is they are absorbed by Balkan Turks.
Therewithal Deliorman Turks models better with Gagauz rather than Bulgarian_Northeast, suggest Islamisation of them and mixing with newly comer Turks that will be known as Balkan Turks afterward.
Distance difference: ( AC - BC ) ↓
A: MD_Gagauz
B: Turk_Deliorman
C: ↴
4.98816898 Turkmen_TKM
4.92523105 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
4.91457901 Turkmen_Afghanistan
4.88640638 Uzbeks
4.87181550 Uzbek
4.69576707 Uyghur
4.68940205 Hazara
4.61262795 Karakalpak
4.58070621 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
4.51942724 Nogai_Astrakhan
4.48250581 Kyrgyz
4.46536754 Kazakh
4.43468050 Nogai
4.43164176 Turkmen
4.41652100 Kyrgyz_Bishkek
Distance difference: ( AC - BC ) ↓
A: Bulgarian_Northeast
B: Turk_Deliorman
C: ↴
5.83034599 Turkmen_TKM
5.78024991 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
5.77488374 Uzbek
5.76090343 Turkmen_Afghanistan
5.71393754 Uzbeks
5.57895975 Hazara
5.52375031 Uyghur
5.33194515 Karakalpak
5.26922250 Turkmen
5.25645755 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
5.25305883 Nogai_Astrakhan
5.22472128 Turkmen_Iran
5.19003569 Tajik_Balkh
5.17477239 Kyrgyz
5.15592951 Tajik_Tajikistan
Bender1999
11-09-2020, 05:02 PM
But did not the Pechenegs stay and returned to Balkan because of that they were Christians? How they became Muslims?
Kaspias
11-09-2020, 05:19 PM
But did not the Pechenegs stay and returned to Balkan because of that they were Christians? How they became Muslims?
I did not get the question exactly. Pechenegs were Tengrist, then converted into Christianity, shortly after then Turks arrived. Unlike Cumans who settled in masses to specific regions, Pechenegs were distributed to all over Byzantine regions, from Eastern Anatolia to Macedonia and some were among Cumans as well. You should be familiar with Turks who claim of Pecheneg origin, too.
There is a Greek Q-L332 individual who is from Balikesir, Erdek, and matches distantly(29/37) with a Hungarian from Nograd. This pretty much draws the image of the situation.
On the other hand, Islamization happens through Sarı Saltuk's colonization.
War Chef
11-09-2020, 05:31 PM
Gagauz Turks are from Balchik. They have more Armenian because of Byzantine ancestry.
I thought Deliorman Turks are way more Armenian-like + actually mongoloid than Gagauz. There's no comparison really.
War Chef
11-09-2020, 05:32 PM
Gagauz come from this area:
https://youtu.be/GTTccepA7gc
Bender1999
11-09-2020, 05:45 PM
I did not get the question exactly. Pechenegs were Tengrist, then converted into Christianity, shortly after then Turks arrived. Unlike Cumans who settled in masses to specific regions, Pechenegs were distributed to all over Byzantine regions, from Eastern Anatolia to Macedonia and some were among Cumans as well. You should be familiar with Turks who claim of Pecheneg origin, too.
There is a Greek Q-L332 individual who is from Balikesir, Erdek, and matches distantly(29/37) with a Hungarian from Nograd. This pretty much draws the image of the situation.
On the other hand, Islamization happens through Sarı Saltuk's colonization.
I just know Pecheneg villages in Ankara. I still don’t have any information about Pecheneg and Ghuz whether they were numerous. They were essential for Byzantine army but did they have families? Also shouldn’t Cumans affect Turks there immensely? Balkan Turks are just the Balkan version of Anatolian Turks, both have the sane amount of Turkic Dna, idk about Cuman dna but shouldn’t they look like Tatars genetically if Balkan Turks were influenced by them. I allways thought that the preottoman Turkics melted away or absorbed by locals.
Kaspias
11-09-2020, 05:46 PM
Gagauz Turks are from Balchik. They have more Armenian because of Byzantine ancestry.
Not only from Balçık but also from the various parts of the Deliorman.
I thought Deliorman Turks are way more Armenian-like + actually mongoloid than Gagauz.
https://i.ibb.co/mvHGTdF/gagavuz.png
Kaspias
11-09-2020, 05:56 PM
I just know Pecheneg villages in Ankara. I still don’t have any information about Pecheneg and Ghuz whether they were numerous. They were essential for Byzantine army but did they have families? Also shouldn’t Cumans affect Turks there immensely? Balkan Turks are just the Balkan version of Anatolian Turks, both have the sane amount of Turkic Dna, idk about Cuman dna but shouldn’t they look like Tatars genetically if Balkan Turks were influenced by them. I allways thought that the preottoman Turkics melted away or absorbed by locals.
Their number in Byzantine registers were up to 100.000. They were distributed all over Anatolia & the Balkans with the purpose of assimilating. Yet then Turks arrived, they joined the fronts of Turks by betraying Greeks. Islamization of them took place both in Anatolia and in Dobruja. When Ottomans arrived in Bulgaria, they have already had contact with Islam(though not adopted fully) thanks to Sarı Saltuk.
On the other hand, Cumans were not cut into small parts and stayed in Dobruja. I believe they were already mixed with natives when Ottomans arrived and a possible mixing scenario with Oghuz resulted in acquiring native DNA as well.
On average, Turkic admixture that brought by pre-Ottoman and Tatar populations are dominated by Oghuz afterward and this shaped the average view.ad
War Chef
11-09-2020, 06:11 PM
I want to see pictures of them
Kaspias
11-10-2020, 11:53 AM
I want to see pictures of them
I sent a source to you.
Kaspias
11-21-2020, 08:08 PM
New result from Xanthi, Western Thrace.
y-DNA: T-M70 (https://www.yfull.com/tree/T-M70/)
Gedmatch
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 28.88
2 Atlantic_Med 23.04
3 North_European 22.5
4 Southwest_Asian 8.8
5 Gedrosia 8.57
6 East_Asian 4.05
7 Siberian 2.83
8 South_Asian 1.02
9 Northwest_African 0.31
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 O_Italian (Dodecad) 11.45
2 Greek (Dodecad) 11.54
3 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 13.38
4 C_Italian (Dodecad) 14.01
5 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 14.28
6 Romanians (Behar) 14.55
7 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 15.22
8 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 15.29
9 Tuscan (HGDP) 15.58
10 Sicilian (Dodecad) 15.67
11 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 15.71
12 TSI30 (Metspalu) 16.26
13 N_Italian (Dodecad) 18.97
14 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 20.35
15 North_Italian (HGDP) 21.49
16 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 22.03
17 Turkish (Dodecad) 22.09
18 Turks (Behar) 23.93
19 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 24.12
20 Cypriots (Behar) 26.72
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 69.2% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 30.8% Nogais (Yunusbayev) @ 4.38
2 63.6% Turkish (Dodecad) + 36.4% British_Isles (Dodecad) @ 4.74
3 61.6% Turkish (Dodecad) + 38.4% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 4.85
4 62.7% Turkish (Dodecad) + 37.3% English (Dodecad) @ 4.99
5 62.3% Turkish (Dodecad) + 37.7% Kent (1000Genomes) @ 5
6 62.6% Turkish (Dodecad) + 37.4% CEU30 (1000Genomes) @ 5.01
7 56.6% Turks (Behar) + 43.4% French (Dodecad) @ 5.04
8 77.2% Greek (Dodecad) + 22.8% Uzbeks (Behar) @ 5.06
9 64.5% Turkish (Dodecad) + 35.5% Orkney (1000Genomes) @ 5.11
10 60.3% Turkish (Dodecad) + 39.7% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) @ 5.11
11 58.7% Turkish (Dodecad) + 41.3% French (Dodecad) @ 5.13
12 63.6% Turkish (Dodecad) + 36.4% British (Dodecad) @ 5.13
13 64.4% Turkish (Dodecad) + 35.6% Orcadian (HGDP) @ 5.17
14 56.6% Turks (Behar) + 43.4% French (HGDP) @ 5.18
15 64.3% Turkish (Dodecad) + 35.7% Irish (Dodecad) @ 5.18
16 66% Turkish (Dodecad) + 34% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 5.26
17 63.3% Turkish (Dodecad) + 36.7% Cornwall (1000Genomes) @ 5.29
18 61.7% Turks (Behar) + 38.3% British_Isles (Dodecad) @ 5.29
19 58.7% Turkish (Dodecad) + 41.3% French (HGDP) @ 5.34
20 75.8% Greek (Dodecad) + 24.2% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 5.39
Updated Modern
Modern Single Population Sharing:
[1,] "Turk_Trakya" "4.3556"
[2,] "Turk_Makedonya" "5.8433"
[3,] "Bulgarian_Thrace" "6.9989"
[4,] "Greek_Peloponnese" "7.0184"
[5,] "Turk_Deliorman" "7.2565"
[6,] "Greek_Thrace" "7.6198"
[7,] "Greek_Thessaloniki" "7.8516"
[8,] "Greek_Thessaly" "7.853"
[9,] "Greek_Central" "8.0517"
[10,] "Crimean_Tatar_Mountain" "8.592"
[11,] "Greek_Athens" "8.7008"
[12,] "Italy_Apulia" "9.6163"
[13,] "Greek_Foca" "9.7839"
[14,] "Albanian_Kosovo" "9.8403"
[15,] "MD_Gagauz" "9.8495"
[16,] "Bulgarian_East" "9.9431"
[17,] "Greek_Macedonia" "10.0929"
[18,] "Italy_Lazio" "10.7604"
[19,] "Albanian_North" "11.0305"
[20,] "Italy_Abruzzo" "11.3361"
[21,] "Italy_Marche" "12.0911"
[22,] "Bulgarian_Central" "12.2884"
[23,] "Italy_Sicily" "13.0931"
[24,] "MD_South" "13.1401"
[25,] "Italy_Romagna" "13.196"
[26,] "Bulgarian_West" "13.2183"
[27,] "Greek_Izmir" "13.298"
[28,] "Pomak" "13.4295"
[29,] "Italy_Campania" "13.6701"
[30,] "MD_Jewish" "13.7218"
Modern Mixed Oracle:
[1,] "79.1% Greek_Thrace + 20.9% Turkmen_Uzbekistan" "1.6866"
[2,] "78.6% Greek_Thessaloniki + 21.4% Turkmen_Uzbekistan" "1.7388"
[3,] "84.3% Greek_Peloponnese + 15.7% Uzbeks" "1.7876"
[4,] "25.2% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe + 74.8% Greek_Central" "1.9376"
[5,] "82.2% Greek_Peloponnese + 17.8% Uzbek" "1.9626"
[6,] "80.9% Greek_Thrace + 19.1% Uzbek" "1.9942"
[7,] "83.2% Greek_Thrace + 16.8% Uzbeks" "2.0012"
[8,] "78.8% Greek_Thessaly + 21.2% Turkmen_Uzbekistan" "2.054"
[9,] "85.7% Greek_Thessaloniki + 14.3% Hazara" "2.1575"
[10,] "66.9% Albanian_Kosovo + 33.1% Yoruk" "2.2267"
[11,] "21.7% Italy_Campania + 78.3% Turk_Trakya" "2.243"
[12,] "80.5% Greek_Thessaloniki + 19.5% Uzbek" "2.2434"
[13,] "87.2% Greek_Peloponnese + 12.8% Hazara" "2.2496"
[14,] "86.5% Greek_Peloponnese + 13.5% Uyghur" "2.2644"
[15,] "86.2% Greek_Thrace + 13.8% Hazara" "2.2863"
[16,] "22.2% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe + 77.8% Greek_Peloponnese" "2.3477"
[17,] "24.8% Italy_Abruzzo + 75.2% Turk_Trakya" "2.3536"
[18,] "82.9% Greek_Thessaloniki + 17.1% Uzbeks" "2.3896"
[19,] "19.1% Italy_Calabria + 80.9% Turk_Trakya" "2.4039"
[20,] "86.1% Greek_Peloponnese + 13.9% Karakalpak" "2.4366"
[21,] "85.5% Greek_Thrace + 14.5% Uyghur" "2.4687"
[22,] "64.3% Albanian_North + 35.7% Yoruk" "2.4719"
[23,] "27.8% Italy_Apulia + 72.2% Turk_Trakya" "2.4857"
[24,] "21.7% Italy_Sicily + 78.3% Turk_Trakya" "2.5018"
[25,] "20.1% Ashkenazi_Jews + 79.9% Turk_Trakya" "2.5668"
[26,] "13.7% Sephardic_Jews + 86.3% Turk_Trakya" "2.6059"
[27,] "45.9% Italy_FriuliVG + 54.1% Turk_Northwest" "2.6081"
[28,] "78.7% Turk_Makedonya + 21.3% Yoruk" "2.6352"
[29,] "80.8% Greek_Thessaly + 19.2% Uzbek" "2.6364"
[30,] "16.8% Bashkir + 83.2% Greek_Central" "2.6456"
Ancient/Modern
Ancient-Modern Oracle:
[1,] "15.1% Karluk_DA230 + 84.9% Greek_Peloponnese" "1.6085"
[2,] "79.1% Greek_Thrace + 20.9% Turkmen_Uzbekistan" "1.6866"
[3,] "78.6% Greek_Thessaloniki + 21.4% Turkmen_Uzbekistan" "1.7388"
[4,] "14.7% Xiongnu-Turk_DA41 + 85.3% Greek_Central" "1.8984"
[5,] "15.2% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA385 + 84.8% Greek_Central" "1.9156"
[6,] "16.3% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA385 + 83.7% Greek_Athens" "1.9232"
[7,] "17.8% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA100 + 82.2% Greek_Athens" "1.9275"
[8,] "74.8% Greek_Central + 25.2% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe" "1.9376"
[9,] "15.4% Xiongnu-Turk_DA38 + 84.6% Greek_Athens" "1.9929"
[10,] "16.6% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA100 + 83.4% Greek_Central" "1.995"
[11,] "13.9% Karakhanid_DA204 + 86.1% Greek_Peloponnese" "2.0277"
[12,] "19.2% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA101 + 80.8% Greek_Athens" "2.0345"
[13,] "78.8% Greek_Thessaly + 21.2% Turkmen_Uzbekistan" "2.054"
[14,] "13.6% Karluk_DA222 + 86.4% Greek_Peloponnese" "2.0591"
[15,] "14.3% Xiongnu-Turk_DA38 + 85.7% Greek_Central" "2.0731"
[16,] "22.9% Kipchak_DA179 + 77.1% Greek_Thrace" "2.1529"
[17,] "15.1% Ottoman_MA2195 + 84.9% Greek_Peloponnese" "2.16"
[18,] "15.7% Karakhanid_DA204 + 84.3% Greek_Central" "2.1686"
[19,] "15.6% Xiongnu-Turk_DA41 + 84.4% Greek_Athens" "2.2722"
[20,] "12.8% Xiongnu-Turk_DA41 + 87.2% Greek_Peloponnese" "2.2746"
[21,] "23.4% Kipchak_DA179 + 76.6% Greek_Thessaloniki" "2.296"
[22,] "18.6% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA65 + 81.4% Greek_Central" "2.3187"
[23,] "77.8% Greek_Peloponnese + 22.2% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe" "2.3477"
[24,] "16.5% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA74 + 83.5% Greek_Athens" "2.358"
[25,] "16.7% Gokturk_DA89 + 83.3% Greek_Athens" "2.3973"
[26,] "15.3% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA74 + 84.7% Greek_Central" "2.4068"
[27,] "17.8% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA101 + 82.2% Greek_Central" "2.4612"
[28,] "19.8% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA65 + 80.2% Greek_Athens" "2.4747"
[29,] "21.1% Kipchak_DA179 + 78.9% Greek_Peloponnese" "2.5151"
[30,] "12.3% Xiongnu-Turk_DA38 + 87.7% Greek_Peloponnese" "2.5278"
Overview of Western Thrace
https://i.ibb.co/kc5Q3XM/batitrakya.png
https://i.ibb.co/F8XLPhJ/pca1.png
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Kaspias
11-24-2020, 01:26 PM
New sample from Ohrid.
Gedmatch
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 35.17
2 North_European 24.06
3 Atlantic_Med 22
4 Southwest_Asian 7.07
5 Gedrosia 6.74
6 Siberian 2.36
7 South_Asian 1.06
8 Northwest_African 0.85
9 East_Asian 0.36
10 Sub_Saharan 0.34
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek (Dodecad) 8.48
2 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 11.64
3 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 12.29
4 O_Italian (Dodecad) 12.78
5 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 13.24
6 Romanians (Behar) 13.43
7 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 14.15
8 C_Italian (Dodecad) 14.36
9 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 14.8
10 Sicilian (Dodecad) 14.96
11 Tuscan (HGDP) 16.47
12 TSI30 (Metspalu) 17.53
13 Turkish (Dodecad) 19.94
14 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 20.04
15 N_Italian (Dodecad) 21.22
16 Turks (Behar) 22.11
17 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 22.72
18 North_Italian (HGDP) 23.61
19 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 24.04
20 Cypriots (Behar) 24.34
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 62.3% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 37.7% Turkish (Dodecad) @ 2.86
2 60.1% Romanians (Behar) + 39.9% Turkish (Dodecad) @ 2.92
3 64.8% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 35.2% Turks (Behar) @ 3.12
4 63.7% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 36.3% Turkish (Dodecad) @ 3.15
5 73.3% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 26.7% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) @ 3.53
6 62.8% Romanians (Behar) + 37.2% Turks (Behar) @ 3.56
7 66.4% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 33.6% Turks (Behar) @ 3.69
8 73.4% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 26.6% Assyrian (Dodecad) @ 3.76
9 71.4% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 28.6% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) @ 3.89
10 70.6% Romanians (Behar) + 29.4% Armenian (Dodecad) @ 3.91
11 72.6% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 27.4% Armenian (Dodecad) @ 3.94
12 72.9% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 27.1% Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) @ 3.98
13 71.5% Romanians (Behar) + 28.5% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) @ 4.04
14 71% Romanians (Behar) + 29% Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) @ 4.14
15 74.8% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 25.2% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) @ 4.18
16 74.7% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 25.3% Iranian_Jews (Behar) @ 4.18
17 73.9% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 26.1% Armenian (Dodecad) @ 4.19
18 71.7% Romanians (Behar) + 28.3% Assyrian (Dodecad) @ 4.21
19 72.9% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 27.1% Georgia_Jews (Behar) @ 4.3
20 74.9% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 25.1% Assyrian (Dodecad) @ 4.34
Updated oracle
[1,] "Greek_Peloponnese" "6.7864"
[2,] "Greek_Thessaloniki" "7.0975"
[3,] "Bulgarian_Thrace" "7.2283"
[4,] "Greek_Central" "7.4171"
[5,] "Turk_Makedonya" "7.4538"
[6,] "Greek_Athens" "7.5231"
[7,] "Greek_Foca" "7.6803"
[8,] "Greek_Thrace" "8.2381"
[9,] "Turk_Trakya" "8.4619"
[10,] "Greek_Thessaly" "8.6504"
[11,] "Crimean_Tatar_Mountain" "8.8378"
[12,] "Italy_Apulia" "9.765"
[13,] "Turk_Deliorman" "10.2304"
[14,] "Bulgarian_East" "10.6865"
[15,] "Albanian_Kosovo" "10.7896"
[16,] "MD_Gagauz" "10.8682"
[17,] "Greek_Izmir" "10.9495"
[18,] "Greek_Macedonia" "10.9746"
[19,] "Albanian_North" "11.4946"
[20,] "Italy_Abruzzo" "12.1844"
[1,] "78.9% Greek_Thessaloniki + 21.1% Ossetian" "2.1424"
[2,] "22.6% Balkar + 77.4% Greek_Thessaloniki" "2.2783"
[3,] "76.9% Greek_Thessaloniki + 23.1% Karachay" "2.2797"
[4,] "20.7% Circassian + 79.3% Greek_Thessaloniki" "2.3147"
[5,] "79.9% Greek_Thessaloniki + 20.1% Kumyks" "2.3882"
[6,] "66.5% Romanian + 33.5% Turk_East_Black_Sea" "2.7661"
[7,] "16.9% Abkhazian + 83.1% Greek_Thessaloniki" "2.7838"
[8,] "15.9% Georgian_Mingrelian + 84.1% Turk_Makedonya" "2.7845"
[9,] "15.4% Georgian_Svan + 84.6% Greek_Thessaloniki" "2.8104"
[10,] "68.8% Bulgarian_West + 31.2% Turk_East_Black_Sea" "2.8438"
[11,] "84.7% Bulgarian_Thrace + 15.3% Georgian_Mingrelian" "2.9185"
[12,] "69.4% Albanian_North + 30.6% Ossetian" "2.9203"
[13,] "63.4% Montenegrin + 36.6% Turk_East_Black_Sea" "2.9357"
[14,] "75.6% Greek_Thessaly + 24.4% Ossetian" "2.9369"
[15,] "32.9% Greek_Pontus + 67.1% Romanian" "2.94"
[16,] "25.7% Abkhazian + 74.3% Albanian_North" "2.9516"
[17,] "79.6% Greek_Thessaloniki + 20.4% Ingush" "2.9552"
[18,] "16.5% Georgian_Gurian + 83.5% Turk_Makedonya" "2.9575"
[19,] "70.9% Albanian_Kosovo + 29.1% Ossetian" "2.9864"
[20,] "16% Georgian_Imereti + 84% Turk_Makedonya" "2.9932"
Ryujin
11-25-2020, 07:30 PM
My friend is from Razlog, Drama and Nevrokop, what are his possible ethnicities? we're just curious.
Kaspias
11-25-2020, 08:30 PM
My friend is from Razlog, Drama and Nevrokop, what are his possible ethnicities? we're just curious.
Razlık and Nevrekop is mostly Pomak. Drama may be Turk or Pomak.
You may consider buying a test on Black Friday sales. FTDNA and MH have a great discount.
Kaspias
11-27-2020, 12:05 PM
1/2 Balkan Turk from Makedonya(Thessaloniki, Koçana, Serres.)
1/2 Nogay/Crimean Tatar from Dobruja, Romania. They had migrated there after Crimean Wars. The actual origin is unknown.
Gedmatch
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 25.68
2 North_European 24.88
3 Atlantic_Med 17.5
4 East_Asian 9.27
5 Siberian 7.94
6 Gedrosia 7.73
7 Southwest_Asian 3.71
8 South_Asian 1.79
9 Northwest_African 1.34
10 Southeast_Asian 0.15
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 17.54
2 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 17.84
3 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 18.18
4 Romanians (Behar) 18.2
5 O_Italian (Dodecad) 20.57
6 Greek (Dodecad) 20.9
7 C_Italian (Dodecad) 23.28
8 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 23.47
9 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 24.09
10 Tuscan (HGDP) 24.23
11 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 24.67
12 TSI30 (Metspalu) 24.73
13 Sicilian (Dodecad) 24.76
14 N_Italian (Dodecad) 25.85
15 Turkish (Dodecad) 26.19
16 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 26.5
17 Uzbeks (Behar) 26.85
18 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 26.96
19 Turks (Behar) 27.31
20 Hungarians (Behar) 27.85
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 59.8% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 40.2% Uzbeks (Behar) @ 3.14
2 66.9% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 33.1% Hazara (HGDP) @ 3.39
3 60.8% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 39.2% Uzbeks (Behar) @ 3.85
4 67.8% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 32.2% Hazara (HGDP) @ 4.07
5 60% Romanians (Behar) + 40% Uzbeks (Behar) @ 4.55
6 67.2% Romanians (Behar) + 32.8% Hazara (HGDP) @ 4.98
7 66% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 34% Uygur (HGDP) @ 5.13
8 66.3% Nogais (Yunusbayev) + 33.7% French (HGDP) @ 5.29
9 66.6% Nogais (Yunusbayev) + 33.4% Galicia (1000Genomes) @ 5.33
10 67% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 33% Uygur (HGDP) @ 5.5
11 66.8% Nogais (Yunusbayev) + 33.2% Portuguese (Dodecad) @ 5.53
12 77% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 23% Mongol (Rasmussen) @ 5.53
13 68.8% Nogais (Yunusbayev) + 31.2% Cataluna (1000Genomes) @ 5.76
14 68.5% Nogais (Yunusbayev) + 31.5% Castilla_Y_Leon (1000Genomes) @ 5.82
15 69.3% Nogais (Yunusbayev) + 30.7% Spanish (Dodecad) @ 5.83
16 66.9% Nogais (Yunusbayev) + 33.1% Extremadura (1000Genomes) @ 5.9
17 70.2% Nogais (Yunusbayev) + 29.8% Cantabria (1000Genomes) @ 5.98
18 69.1% Nogais (Yunusbayev) + 30.9% Spaniards (Behar) @ 6.18
19 68.2% Nogais (Yunusbayev) + 31.8% Murcia (1000Genomes) @ 6.18
20 66.3% Romanians (Behar) + 33.7% Uygur (HGDP) @ 6.19
Updated oracle
[1,] "Turk_Trakya" "9.5871"
[2,] "Turk_Deliorman" "10.639"
[3,] "Crimean_Tatar_Mountain" "12.0756"
[4,] "Crimean_Tatar_Steppe" "13.5687"
[5,] "Turk_Makedonya" "13.7638"
[6,] "MD_Gagauz" "15.1449"
[7,] "Bulgarian_Thrace" "15.7427"
[8,] "Bulgarian_East" "15.8127"
[9,] "Greek_Macedonia" "16.2001"
[10,] "Turk_Northwest" "16.207"
[11,] "Bulgarian_Central" "16.9256"
[12,] "Greek_Thessaloniki" "17.0836"
[13,] "MD_South" "17.1402"
[14,] "Pomak" "17.2137"
[15,] "Greek_Thessaly" "17.2238"
[16,] "Greek_Thrace" "17.3666"
[17,] "Bulgarian_West" "17.4007"
[18,] "Greek_Peloponnese" "17.4165"
[19,] "Romanian" "17.8523"
[20,] "Nogai" "18.0578"
[1,] "18.8% Kazakh + 81.2% Turk_Trakya" "3.8429"
[2,] "21.9% Karakalpak + 78.1% Turk_Trakya" "3.8809"
[3,] "16.7% Kyrgyz_Bishkek + 83.3% Turk_Trakya" "3.9327"
[4,] "15.1% Mongol + 84.9% Turk_Deliorman" "3.94"
[5,] "18.9% Kyrgyz + 81.1% Turk_Deliorman" "3.9811"
[6,] "17.1% Kyrgyz + 82.9% Turk_Trakya" "3.9851"
[7,] "67.2% Bulgarian_Thrace + 32.8% Karakalpak" "4.0038"
[8,] "29.7% Karakalpak + 70.3% Turk_Makedonya" "4.0129"
[9,] "18.5% Kyrgyz_Bishkek + 81.5% Turk_Deliorman" "4.0444"
[10,] "15.3% Kalmyk + 84.7% Turk_Deliorman" "4.0682"
[11,] "20.5% Kazakh + 79.5% Turk_Deliorman" "4.0713"
[12,] "56.2% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe + 43.8% Greek_Thessaloniki" "4.1019"
[13,] "23.9% Karakalpak + 76.1% Turk_Deliorman" "4.1049"
[14,] "12.4% Oroqen + 87.6% Turk_Deliorman" "4.1481"
[15,] "13.7% Kalmyk + 86.3% Turk_Trakya" "4.192"
[16,] "13.4% Mongol + 86.6% Turk_Trakya" "4.2036"
[17,] "40% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe + 60% Turk_Trakya" "4.205"
[18,] "58.9% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe + 41.1% Greek_Athens" "4.2357"
[19,] "56.7% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe + 43.3% Greek_Peloponnese" "4.2607"
[20,] "60% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe + 40% Greek_Foca" "4.2754"
Ancient/Modern
[1,] "35.5% Ottoman_MA2195 + 64.5% Bulgarian_Thrace" "3.4895"
[2,] "37.4% Ottoman_MA2195 + 62.6% Greek_Thessaloniki" "3.9242"
[3,] "43.8% Greek_Thessaloniki + 56.2% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe" "4.1019"
[4,] "34.3% Karakhanid_DA204 + 65.7% Greek_Thessaloniki" "4.1726"
[5,] "41.1% Greek_Athens + 58.9% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe" "4.2357"
[6,] "43.3% Greek_Peloponnese + 56.7% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe" "4.2607"
[7,] "41.5% Greek_Central + 58.5% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe" "4.2773"
[8,] "45.9% Bulgarian_Thrace + 54.1% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe" "4.3452"
[9,] "34.1% Karluk_DA230 + 65.9% Bulgarian_Thrace" "4.4462"
[10,] "35.4% Ottoman_MA2195 + 64.6% Bulgarian_East" "4.5274"
[11,] "43.3% Greek_Thrace + 56.7% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe" "4.5788"
[12,] "36% Karluk_DA230 + 64% Greek_Thessaloniki" "4.6026"
[13,] "32.2% Karakhanid_DA204 + 67.8% Bulgarian_Thrace" "4.653"
[14,] "43.5% Greek_Thessaly + 56.5% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe" "4.6727"
[15,] "34.7% Karakhanid_DA204 + 65.3% Greek_Peloponnese" "4.6738"
[16,] "37.5% Ottoman_MA2195 + 62.5% Greek_Thessaly" "4.6838"
[17,] "35.9% Ottoman_MA2195 + 64.1% Greek_Macedonia" "4.693"
[18,] "34.1% Karluk_DA230 + 65.9% Bulgarian_East" "4.7504"
[19,] "37.7% Ottoman_MA2195 + 62.3% Greek_Thrace" "4.7642"
[20,] "34.6% Karluk_DA230 + 65.4% Greek_Macedonia" "4.9597"
1/2 Balkan Turk from Makedonya(Thessaloniki, Koçana, Serres.)
1/2 Nogay/Crimean Tatar from Dobruja, Romania. They had migrated there after Crimean Wars. The actual origin is unknown.
Over 17% East Eurasian is a lot.
Kaspias
11-30-2020, 04:54 PM
New sample from Deliorman: 1/2 Dobrich, 1/2 Silistra.
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 North_European 28.77
2 Caucasus 28.45
3 Atlantic_Med 22.1
4 Gedrosia 7.14
5 Southwest_Asian 5.72
6 East_Asian 5.47
7 Siberian 1.34
8 South_Asian 1.01
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 8.76
2 Romanians (Behar) 9.68
3 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 9.81
4 O_Italian (Dodecad) 14
5 Greek (Dodecad) 14.78
6 C_Italian (Dodecad) 17.83
7 Tuscan (HGDP) 18.45
8 TSI30 (Metspalu) 18.93
9 N_Italian (Dodecad) 20.01
10 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 20.06
11 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 20.61
12 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 20.71
13 Sicilian (Dodecad) 20.85
14 Hungarians (Behar) 22.51
15 North_Italian (HGDP) 22.86
16 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 24.25
17 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 26.23
18 Turkish (Dodecad) 26.31
19 German (Dodecad) 27.26
20 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 27.96
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 84.9% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 15.1% Hazara (HGDP) @ 3.57
2 84.4% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 15.6% Uygur (HGDP) @ 3.87
3 83.5% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 16.5% Hazara (HGDP) @ 4.07
4 82.3% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 17.7% Uzbeks (Behar) @ 4.16
5 77.8% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 22.2% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 4.25
6 82.9% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 17.1% Uygur (HGDP) @ 4.41
7 80.6% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 19.4% Uzbeks (Behar) @ 4.61
8 78.5% Romanians (Behar) + 21.5% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 4.7
9 84.2% Romanians (Behar) + 15.8% Hazara (HGDP) @ 4.74
10 80.7% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 19.3% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 4.76
11 79.5% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 20.5% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 4.79
12 83.6% Romanians (Behar) + 16.4% Uygur (HGDP) @ 4.95
13 91.7% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 8.3% Xibo (HGDP) @ 4.98
14 91.4% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 8.6% Mongola (HGDP) @ 4.99
15 91.5% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 8.5% Tu (HGDP) @ 4.99
16 54.1% Hungarians (Behar) + 45.9% Turkish (Dodecad) @ 5.01
17 91.9% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 8.1% Hezhen (HGDP) @ 5.05
18 81.3% Romanians (Behar) + 18.7% Uzbeks (Behar) @ 5.1
19 91.9% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 8.1% Daur (HGDP) @ 5.1
20 50.9% Turkish (Dodecad) + 49.1% German (Dodecad) @ 5.15
[1,] "Turk_Deliorman" "4.3278"
[2,] "Turk_Trakya" "5.5972"
[3,] "Turk_Makedonya" "6.1508"
[4,] "MD_Gagauz" "6.5696"
[5,] "Bulgarian_East" "6.9259"
[6,] "Greek_Macedonia" "7.1907"
[7,] "Bulgarian_Thrace" "7.6137"
[8,] "Bulgarian_Central" "8.2057"
[9,] "Pomak" "8.7656"
[10,] "Bulgarian_West" "8.932"
[11,] "MD_South" "8.9859"
[12,] "Greek_Thessaloniki" "9.3578"
[13,] "Greek_Thessaly" "9.6204"
[14,] "Albanian_Kosovo" "9.8193"
[15,] "Greek_Thrace" "9.8396"
[16,] "Romanian" "9.8636"
[17,] "Albanian_North" "10.0017"
[18,] "Macedonian" "10.1512"
[19,] "Greek_Peloponnese" "10.8035"
[20,] "Montenegrin" "12.0172"
[1,] "79.2% Greek_Macedonia + 20.8% Nogai" "3.4201"
[2,] "76.6% Bulgarian_Central + 23.4% Nogai" "3.6408"
[3,] "80.5% Bulgarian_East + 19.5% Nogai" "3.7391"
[4,] "81.7% MD_Gagauz + 18.3% Nogai" "3.7475"
[5,] "71.8% Macedonian + 28.2% Nogai" "3.8226"
[6,] "5.3% Korean + 94.7% MD_Gagauz" "3.8468"
[7,] "2% Korean + 98% Turk_Deliorman" "3.8553"
[8,] "74.9% Bulgarian_West + 25.1% Nogai" "3.8561"
[9,] "88.3% Bulgarian_East + 11.7% Uyghur" "3.8676"
[10,] "94.3% Bulgarian_East + 5.7% Korean" "3.8739"
[11,] "87.7% Greek_Macedonia + 12.3% Uyghur" "3.8747"
[12,] "72.4% Romanian + 27.6% Yoruk" "3.9243"
[13,] "93.4% Bulgarian_East + 6.6% Xibo" "3.9595"
[14,] "86.1% Greek_Macedonia + 13.9% Uzbeks" "3.9784"
[15,] "71.8% Macedonian + 28.2% Yoruk" "3.9888"
[16,] "67.7% Montenegrin + 32.3% Yoruk" "3.993"
[17,] "93.2% Bulgarian_East + 6.8% Tu" "3.9979"
[18,] "93.2% Bulgarian_East + 6.8% Mongola" "4.0059"
[19,] "93.9% MD_Gagauz + 6.1% Xibo" "4.0084"
[20,] "1.9% Naga + 98.1% Turk_Deliorman" "4.0095"
[1,] "79.2% Greek_Macedonia + 20.8% Nogai" "3.4201"
[2,] "76.6% Bulgarian_Central + 23.4% Nogai" "3.6408"
[3,] "80.5% Bulgarian_East + 19.5% Nogai" "3.7391"
[4,] "74.9% Bulgarian_West + 25.1% Nogai" "3.8561"
[5,] "17.4% Gokturk_DA228 + 82.6% Bulgarian_Thrace" "3.9184"
[6,] "12.8% Karluk_DA230 + 87.2% Bulgarian_East" "4.007"
[7,] "13.4% Karluk_DA230 + 86.6% Greek_Macedonia" "4.0282"
[8,] "72.8% Romanian + 27.2% Nogai" "4.1266"
[9,] "6.2% Xiongnu-Mongol_DA43 + 93.8% Bulgarian_East" "4.2693"
[10,] "6.8% Xiongnu-Mongol_DA39 + 93.2% Bulgarian_East" "4.3073"
[11,] "18.1% Kipchak_DA179 + 81.9% Greek_Macedonia" "4.3694"
[12,] "6.4% Xiongnu-Mongol_DA45 + 93.6% Bulgarian_East" "4.3762"
[13,] "17.2% Kipchak_DA179 + 82.8% Bulgarian_East" "4.4132"
[14,] "12.4% Ottoman_MA2195 + 87.6% Bulgarian_East" "4.4479"
[15,] "13.1% Ottoman_MA2195 + 86.9% Greek_Macedonia" "4.4631"
[16,] "7% Xiongnu-Mongol_DA39 + 93% Greek_Macedonia" "4.5054"
[17,] "78.2% Bulgarian_Thrace + 21.8% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe" "4.5561"
[18,] "6.4% Xiongnu-Mongol_DA43 + 93.6% Greek_Macedonia" "4.5608"
[19,] "79.7% Greek_Macedonia + 20.3% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe" "4.5616"
[20,] "14.4% Gokturk_DA228 + 85.6% Bulgarian_East" "4.5642"
Kaspias
11-30-2020, 05:11 PM
Another sample from Deliorman, daughter of the sample posted above.
1/4 Dobrich, 1/4 Silistra, and 2/4 Ruse.
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 North_European 29.72
2 Caucasus 29.46
3 Atlantic_Med 20.14
4 Gedrosia 6.69
5 Southwest_Asian 6.62
6 East_Asian 3.58
7 Siberian 2
8 South_Asian 1.16
9 Southeast_Asian 0.57
10 East_African 0.06
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 7.6
2 Romanians (Behar) 8.86
3 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 8.95
4 Greek (Dodecad) 14.78
5 O_Italian (Dodecad) 15.25
6 C_Italian (Dodecad) 18.93
7 Tuscan (HGDP) 19.89
8 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 19.94
9 TSI30 (Metspalu) 20.41
10 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 20.55
11 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 21.17
12 Sicilian (Dodecad) 21.32
13 N_Italian (Dodecad) 21.73
14 Hungarians (Behar) 22.45
15 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 23.63
16 North_Italian (HGDP) 24.61
17 Turkish (Dodecad) 25.68
18 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 26.39
19 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 27.17
20 Turks (Behar) 27.34
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 78% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 22% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 1.95
2 81.1% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 18.9% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 2.39
3 78.7% Romanians (Behar) + 21.3% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 2.9
4 53.4% Hungarians (Behar) + 46.6% Turkish (Dodecad) @ 2.93
5 86.8% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 13.2% Hazara (HGDP) @ 2.99
6 84.1% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 15.9% Uzbeks (Behar) @ 3.09
7 86.5% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 13.5% Uygur (HGDP) @ 3.33
8 80.1% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 19.9% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 3.35
9 55% Hungarians (Behar) + 45% Turks (Behar) @ 3.39
10 77.8% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 22.2% Nogais (Yunusbayev) @ 3.68
11 74.4% Romanians (Behar) + 25.6% Nogais (Yunusbayev) @ 3.77
12 83.6% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 16.4% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 3.8
13 85.3% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 14.7% Hazara (HGDP) @ 4.13
14 82.2% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 17.8% Uzbeks (Behar) @ 4.15
15 81.6% Romanians (Behar) + 18.4% Kurd (Dodecad) @ 4.15
16 81.5% Romanians (Behar) + 18.5% Iranian (Dodecad) @ 4.18
17 77.7% Romanians (Behar) + 22.3% Turks (Behar) @ 4.25
18 82.1% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 17.9% Iranians (Behar) @ 4.26
19 85.3% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 14.7% Iranians (Behar) @ 4.32
20 82.4% Romanians (Behar) + 17.6% Iranians (Behar) @ 4.32
[1,] "Turk_Deliorman" "4.0356"
[2,] "Turk_Trakya" "5.4775"
[3,] "Turk_Makedonya" "6.2361"
[4,] "MD_Gagauz" "6.7067"
[5,] "Bulgarian_East" "6.7957"
[6,] "Greek_Macedonia" "7.3439"
[7,] "Bulgarian_Thrace" "7.7265"
[8,] "Bulgarian_Central" "8.1718"
[9,] "Pomak" "8.4121"
[10,] "Bulgarian_West" "8.9867"
[11,] "MD_South" "9.0592"
[12,] "Greek_Thessaloniki" "9.565"
[13,] "Romanian" "10.1717"
[14,] "Greek_Thessaly" "10.2338"
[15,] "Greek_Thrace" "10.3955"
[16,] "Macedonian" "10.5099"
[17,] "Albanian_Kosovo" "10.7219"
[18,] "Albanian_North" "10.8626"
[19,] "Greek_Peloponnese" "10.9978"
[20,] "Crimean_Tatar_Mountain" "11.4693"
[1,] "74.9% Bulgarian_Central + 25.1% Nogai" "2.1867"
[2,] "78.7% Bulgarian_East + 21.3% Nogai" "2.4045"
[3,] "77.3% Greek_Macedonia + 22.7% Nogai" "2.492"
[4,] "25.5% Nogai + 74.5% Pomak" "2.5564"
[5,] "73.2% Bulgarian_West + 26.8% Nogai" "2.6409"
[6,] "66.6% MD_Center + 33.4% Turk_Central_Black_Sea" "2.9625"
[7,] "73.2% MD_South + 26.8% Nogai" "2.9709"
[8,] "61% MD_North + 39% Turk_Central_Black_Sea" "2.9743"
[9,] "54.2% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain + 45.8% MD_Center" "2.9942"
[10,] "79.6% MD_Gagauz + 20.4% Nogai" "3.0142"
[11,] "55.3% MD_North + 44.7% Turk_West_BlackSea" "3.0149"
[12,] "60.2% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain + 39.8% MD_North" "3.0151"
[13,] "41.5% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain + 58.5% Pomak" "3.038"
[14,] "38.6% Bosnian + 61.4% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain" "3.0931"
[15,] "59.9% Bosnian + 40.1% Turk_Central_Black_Sea" "3.1058"
[16,] "61.3% MD_Center + 38.7% Turk_West_BlackSea" "3.1513"
[17,] "70% Macedonian + 30% Nogai" "3.1971"
[18,] "23.2% Karachay + 76.8% Pomak" "3.2029"
[19,] "57.9% Croat + 42.1% Turk_Central_Black_Sea" "3.2295"
[20,] "63.4% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain + 36.6% Croat" "3.2438"
[1,] "74.9% Bulgarian_Central + 25.1% Nogai" "2.1867"
[2,] "78.7% Bulgarian_East + 21.3% Nogai" "2.4045"
[3,] "77.3% Greek_Macedonia + 22.7% Nogai" "2.492"
[4,] "73.2% Bulgarian_West + 26.8% Nogai" "2.6409"
[5,] "71% Romanian + 29% Nogai" "3.4822"
[6,] "19.7% Abkhazian + 80.3% Romanian" "4.4955"
[7,] "17.1% Abkhazian + 82.9% Bulgarian_West" "4.6761"
[8,] "15.2% Abkhazian + 84.8% Bulgarian_Central" "4.6885"
[9,] "15.6% Kipchak_DA179 + 84.4% Bulgarian_East" "4.7459"
[10,] "86.6% Bulgarian_East + 13.4% Turkmen_Uzbekistan" "4.8158"
[11,] "10.7% Karluk_DA230 + 89.3% Bulgarian_East" "4.8569"
[12,] "82.7% Bulgarian_East + 17.3% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe" "4.931"
[13,] "10.8% Ottoman_MA2195 + 89.2% Bulgarian_East" "4.9874"
[14,] "17.2% Georgian_Turkey + 82.8% Romanian" "5.0196"
[15,] "16.5% Iran_Khorasan + 83.5% Bulgarian_Central" "5.0468"
[16,] "9.3% Karluk_DA222 + 90.7% Bulgarian_East" "5.0694"
[17,] "16.8% Kipchak_DA179 + 83.2% Greek_Macedonia" "5.0768"
[18,] "10.7% Abkhazian + 89.3% Bulgarian_East" "5.1202"
[19,] "17.4% Talysh_Azerbaijan + 82.6% Bulgarian_West" "5.124"
[20,] "79.9% Bulgarian_Thrace + 20.1% Nogai" "5.1271"
Kaspias
12-07-2020, 08:00 PM
New sample from Razgrad, Deliorman.
yDNA: J2a1b
Gedmatch
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 27.22
2 North_European 26.58
3 Atlantic_Med 25.12
4 Gedrosia 8.58
5 Southwest_Asian 4.96
6 East_Asian 3.46
7 Siberian 2.43
8 Northwest_African 0.97
9 Southeast_Asian 0.41
10 Sub_Saharan 0.27
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 10.3
2 O_Italian (Dodecad) 10.69
3 Romanians (Behar) 11.04
4 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 11.09
5 Greek (Dodecad) 13.72
6 C_Italian (Dodecad) 14.91
7 Tuscan (HGDP) 15.37
8 TSI30 (Metspalu) 15.61
9 N_Italian (Dodecad) 16.55
10 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 18.76
11 Sicilian (Dodecad) 18.86
12 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 19.16
13 North_Italian (HGDP) 19.45
14 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 19.62
15 Hungarians (Behar) 23.11
16 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 24.68
17 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 25.9
18 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 26.08
19 Baleares (1000Genomes) 26.36
20 Turkish (Dodecad) 26.5
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 53.3% Turkish (Dodecad) + 46.7% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 3.86
2 55.7% Turkish (Dodecad) + 44.3% British_Isles (Dodecad) @ 3.98
3 51.6% Turkish (Dodecad) + 48.4% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) @ 4.11
4 54.5% Turkish (Dodecad) + 45.5% CEU30 (1000Genomes) @ 4.26
5 50.3% Turkish (Dodecad) + 49.7% German (Dodecad) @ 4.31
6 54.6% Turkish (Dodecad) + 45.4% English (Dodecad) @ 4.31
7 54.2% Turkish (Dodecad) + 45.8% Kent (1000Genomes) @ 4.36
8 58.6% Turkish (Dodecad) + 41.4% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 4.39
9 54.1% Turks (Behar) + 45.9% British_Isles (Dodecad) @ 4.63
10 56.9% Turkish (Dodecad) + 43.1% Orkney (1000Genomes) @ 4.68
11 51.6% Turks (Behar) + 48.4% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 4.68
12 56.8% Turkish (Dodecad) + 43.2% Orcadian (HGDP) @ 4.85
13 56.7% Turkish (Dodecad) + 43.3% Irish (Dodecad) @ 4.88
14 50.1% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) + 49.9% Turks (Behar) @ 4.89
15 55.9% Turkish (Dodecad) + 44.1% British (Dodecad) @ 4.93
16 61.7% N_Italian (Dodecad) + 38.3% Nogais (Yunusbayev) @ 4.93
17 52.8% Turks (Behar) + 47.2% CEU30 (1000Genomes) @ 4.97
18 52.5% Turks (Behar) + 47.5% Kent (1000Genomes) @ 4.98
19 52.9% Turks (Behar) + 47.1% English (Dodecad) @ 5.01
20 55.4% Turkish (Dodecad) + 44.6% Cornwall (1000Genomes) @ 5.07
Updated oracle
[1,] "Turk_Makedonya" "4.8116"
[2,] "Turk_Deliorman" "4.9595"
[3,] "Turk_Trakya" "5.4016"
[4,] "MD_Gagauz" "5.7345"
[5,] "Bulgarian_Thrace" "6.2943"
[6,] "Greek_Macedonia" "6.5205"
[7,] "Bulgarian_East" "6.5242"
[8,] "Greek_Thessaly" "7.4713"
[9,] "Albanian_Kosovo" "7.665"
[10,] "Greek_Thrace" "7.7595"
[11,] "Greek_Thessaloniki" "8.0258"
[12,] "Albanian_North" "8.0987"
[13,] "Bulgarian_Central" "8.222"
[14,] "MD_South" "8.7583"
[15,] "Bulgarian_West" "8.8646"
[16,] "Greek_Peloponnese" "9.3718"
[17,] "Pomak" "9.4437"
[18,] "Romanian" "9.6405"
[19,] "Macedonian" "9.7802"
[20,] "Greek_Central" "10.8227"
[1,] "67.3% Italy_FriuliVG + 32.7% Nogai" "1.8405"
[2,] "66% Italy_Veneto + 34% Nogai" "2.3186"
[3,] "36.6% Bavarian_German + 63.4% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain" "2.5776"
[4,] "81.1% Albanian_North + 18.9% Uzbek" "2.6829"
[5,] "56% Bavarian_German + 44% Turk_Central_Black_Sea" "2.836"
[6,] "61.5% Italy_Trentino + 38.5% Nogai" "2.8985"
[7,] "64% Italy_Piedmont + 36% Nogai" "2.9092"
[8,] "50.2% Bavarian_German + 49.8% Turk_West_BlackSea" "2.92"
[9,] "70.7% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain + 29.3% French" "2.9202"
[10,] "83.4% Albanian_North + 16.6% Uzbeks" "2.9284"
[11,] "70.7% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain + 29.3% French2" "2.9999"
[12,] "25.1% Italy_Veneto + 74.9% Turk_Trakya" "3.0296"
[13,] "61.7% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain + 38.3% Italy_Aosta_Valley" "3.0316"
[14,] "39.8% Nogai + 60.2% Swiss_Italian" "3.0516"
[15,] "57.6% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain + 42.4% Italy_Trentino" "3.0607"
[16,] "17.4% France_Corsica + 82.6% Turk_Deliorman" "3.1139"
[17,] "21.3% Italy_Trentino + 78.7% Turk_Trakya" "3.13"
[18,] "18.5% Italy_Aosta_Valley + 81.5% Turk_Trakya" "3.1335"
[19,] "80.5% Albanian_North + 19.5% Turkmen_Uzbekistan" "3.1387"
[20,] "9% Sardinian + 91% Turk_Deliorman" "3.1771"
[21,] "50.9% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain + 49.1% Italy_FriuliVG" "3.1855"
[22,] "82.5% Albanian_Kosovo + 17.5% Uzbek" "3.197"
[23,] "21.2% Italy_Emilia + 78.8% Turk_Deliorman" "3.211"
[24,] "20.1% Swiss_Italian + 79.9% Turk_Trakya" "3.2206"
[25,] "21.5% Italy_Tuscany + 78.5% Turk_Deliorman" "3.2353"
[26,] "30.3% Balkar + 69.7% Italy_FriuliVG" "3.2511"
[27,] "84.5% Albanian_Kosovo + 15.5% Uzbeks" "3.2846"
[28,] "69.2% Italy_FriuliVG + 30.8% Karachay" "3.2911"
[29,] "23.1% Italy_Romagna + 76.9% Turk_Deliorman" "3.2937"
[30,] "16% Spanish_Baleares + 84% Turk_Trakya" "3.3085"
Ancient/Modern oracle
[1,] "16.9% KAZ_Nomad_MA_DA126 + 83.1% Greek_Thessaloniki" "3.1491"
[2,] "13% KAZ_Nomad_MA_DA126 + 87% Bulgarian_Thrace" "3.1839"
[3,] "15.2% Gokturk_DA89 + 84.8% Greek_Thessaloniki" "3.3007"
[4,] "11.6% Gokturk_DA89 + 88.4% Bulgarian_Thrace" "3.318"
[5,] "14.9% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA100 + 85.1% Greek_Thessaly" "3.4079"
[6,] "15.5% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA100 + 84.5% Greek_Thrace" "3.4636"
[7,] "16% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA100 + 84% Greek_Thessaloniki" "3.4719"
[8,] "14% Gokturk_DA228 + 86% Bulgarian_Thrace" "3.4862"
[9,] "15% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA74 + 85% Greek_Thessaloniki" "3.4944"
[10,] "13.5% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA385 + 86.5% Greek_Thessaly" "3.4983"
[11,] "16.1% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA101 + 83.9% Greek_Thessaly" "3.5226"
[12,] "13.8% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA65 + 86.2% Bulgarian_Thrace" "3.5242"
[13,] "14.1% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA385 + 85.9% Greek_Thrace" "3.5395"
[14,] "12.1% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA100 + 87.9% Bulgarian_Thrace" "3.559"
[15,] "15.3% KAZ_Nomad_MA_DA126 + 84.7% Greek_Thessaly" "3.5733"
[16,] "11.3% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA74 + 88.7% Bulgarian_Thrace" "3.585"
[17,] "17.3% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA101 + 82.7% Greek_Thessaloniki" "3.5919"
[18,] "14.4% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA74 + 85.6% Greek_Thrace" "3.5953"
[19,] "10.3% Xiongnu-Turk_DA41 + 89.7% Bulgarian_Thrace" "3.611"
[20,] "16.7% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA101 + 83.3% Greek_Thrace" "3.6239"
[21,] "15.9% KAZ_Nomad_MA_DA126 + 84.1% Greek_Thrace" "3.6253"
[22,] "14.5% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA385 + 85.5% Greek_Thessaloniki" "3.6344"
[23,] "13.8% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA74 + 86.2% Greek_Thessaly" "3.6406"
[24,] "17.9% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA65 + 82.1% Greek_Thessaloniki" "3.6699"
[25,] "18% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA81 + 82% Greek_Thessaloniki" "3.673"
[26,] "16.6% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA65 + 83.4% Greek_Thessaly" "3.6881"
[27,] "13.8% Gokturk_DA89 + 86.2% Greek_Thessaly" "3.6911"
[28,] "10.8% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA385 + 89.2% Bulgarian_Thrace" "3.7133"
[29,] "17.3% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA65 + 82.7% Greek_Thrace" "3.7175"
[30,] "10.9% Karakhanid_DA204 + 89.1% Bulgarian_Thrace" "3.7209"
Kaspias
12-08-2020, 04:02 PM
I like that sample flow. New sample from Deliorman, Razgrad.
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 North_European 30.34
2 Caucasus 23.67
3 Atlantic_Med 20.68
4 Gedrosia 9.14
5 Southwest_Asian 7.39
6 East_Asian 3.25
7 Siberian 3.23
8 South_Asian 1.41
9 East_African 0.36
10 Southeast_Asian 0.29
11 Northwest_African 0.23
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 10.29
2 Romanians (Behar) 10.52
3 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 11.82
4 O_Italian (Dodecad) 16.05
5 Greek (Dodecad) 18.41
6 Hungarians (Behar) 20.23
7 C_Italian (Dodecad) 20.58
8 N_Italian (Dodecad) 21
9 Tuscan (HGDP) 21.08
10 TSI30 (Metspalu) 21.12
11 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 23.21
12 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 23.55
13 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 23.62
14 Sicilian (Dodecad) 23.78
15 North_Italian (HGDP) 24.07
16 German (Dodecad) 24.66
17 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 25.49
18 Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) 27.19
19 French (Dodecad) 27.25
20 French (HGDP) 27.47
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 53.1% Turks (Behar) + 46.9% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 3.91
2 54.3% Turkish (Dodecad) + 45.7% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 3.97
3 53.5% Turks (Behar) + 46.5% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 4.2
4 76.2% Romanians (Behar) + 23.8% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 4.27
5 73.8% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 26.2% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 4.45
6 82.2% Romanians (Behar) + 17.8% Hazara (HGDP) @ 4.5
7 54.6% Turkish (Dodecad) + 45.4% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 4.52
8 77% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 23% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 4.62
9 82.7% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 17.3% Hazara (HGDP) @ 4.64
10 55.3% German (Dodecad) + 44.7% Turks (Behar) @ 4.71
11 78.7% Romanians (Behar) + 21.3% Uzbeks (Behar) @ 4.72
12 79.3% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 20.7% Uzbeks (Behar) @ 4.93
13 76.5% Romanians (Behar) + 23.5% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 5.03
14 86.4% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 13.6% Brahui (HGDP) @ 5.2
15 54.2% German (Dodecad) + 45.8% Turkish (Dodecad) @ 5.28
16 85% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 15% Makrani (HGDP) @ 5.32
17 85.5% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 14.5% Balochi (HGDP) @ 5.32
18 86.8% Romanians (Behar) + 13.2% Makrani (HGDP) @ 5.36
19 60.5% Hungarians (Behar) + 39.5% Turks (Behar) @ 5.38
20 82.2% Romanians (Behar) + 17.8% Uygur (HGDP) @ 5.4
[1,] "Turk_Deliorman" "3.725"
[2,] "Turk_Trakya" "6.4015"
[3,] "MD_Gagauz" "7.3272"
[4,] "Bulgarian_East" "7.8841"
[5,] "Turk_Makedonya" "8.312"
[6,] "Greek_Macedonia" "8.3246"
[7,] "MD_South" "8.3703"
[8,] "Pomak" "8.3939"
[9,] "Bulgarian_Central" "8.3994"
[10,] "Bulgarian_West" "8.8405"
[11,] "Romanian" "9.2878"
[12,] "Macedonian" "9.8441"
[13,] "Bulgarian_Thrace" "10.2227"
[14,] "Montenegrin" "11.0952"
[15,] "MD_Center" "11.3598"
[16,] "Albanian_Kosovo" "12.2213"
[17,] "Greek_Thessaly" "12.2293"
[18,] "Albanian_North" "12.415"
[19,] "Greek_Thrace" "12.5804"
[20,] "Greek_Thessaloniki" "12.6098"
[1,] "49.1% Slovak + 50.9% Turk_Southwest" "1.6551"
[2,] "45.9% Slovak + 54.1% Turk_Northwest" "1.7434"
[3,] "78.1% Pomak + 21.9% Turkmen_Uzbekistan" "1.7591"
[4,] "78.9% Pomak + 21.1% Uzbek" "2.0039"
[5,] "50.1% Slovenian + 49.9% Turk_Northwest" "2.0736"
[6,] "48.6% Hungarians + 51.4% Turk_Northwest" "2.1239"
[7,] "51.8% Hungarians + 48.2% Turk_Southwest" "2.1608"
[8,] "53.3% Slovenian + 46.7% Turk_Southwest" "2.1668"
[9,] "11.9% Tatar_Kazan + 88.1% Turk_Deliorman" "2.2288"
[10,] "12.5% Karelian + 87.5% Turk_Trakya" "2.249"
[11,] "51.6% Slovak + 48.4% Turk_Central_West" "2.2498"
[12,] "45.1% Sorb_Lusatia + 54.9% Turk_Southwest" "2.2615"
[13,] "12% Finnish_East + 88% Turk_Trakya" "2.2694"
[14,] "8.5% Komi + 91.5% Turk_Deliorman" "2.2732"
[15,] "78.4% MD_South + 21.6% Turkmen_Uzbekistan" "2.2737"
[16,] "91.8% Turk_Deliorman + 8.2% Udmurt" "2.2823"
[17,] "41.9% Sorb_Lusatia + 58.1% Turk_Northwest" "2.2948"
[18,] "57.1% Slovenian + 42.9% Turk_South" "2.2951"
[19,] "62.3% Bosnian + 37.7% Yoruk" "2.3023"
[20,] "12.5% Finnish_West + 87.5% Turk_Trakya" "2.3058"
[21,] "42.2% PL_Warmia-Masuria + 57.8% Turk_Southwest" "2.3066"
[22,] "51.8% Slovak + 48.2% Turk_Anatolia" "2.3076"
[23,] "79.1% Bulgarian_Central + 20.9% Uzbek" "2.3331"
[24,] "13.2% Estonian + 86.8% Turk_Trakya" "2.367"
[25,] "49% Slovak + 51% Turk_West_BlackSea" "2.3881"
[26,] "68.1% HUN_Szekely + 31.9% Turk_South" "2.3908"
[27,] "77.4% Bulgarian_West + 22.6% Turkmen_Uzbekistan" "2.3908"
[28,] "70% HUN_Szekely + 30% Turk_Southeast" "2.3999"
[29,] "76.5% Romanian + 23.5% Turkmen_Uzbekistan" "2.4049"
[30,] "15.6% PL_Warmia-Masuria + 84.4% Turk_Trakya" "2.4082"
[1,] "15.5% Xiongnu-Turk_DA38 + 84.5% Bulgarian_East" "1.805"
[2,] "16.2% Xiongnu-Turk_DA38 + 83.8% Greek_Macedonia" "2.072"
[3,] "20.4% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA101 + 79.6% Bulgarian_East" "2.1389"
[4,] "26.1% Kipchak_DA179 + 73.9% Bulgarian_West" "2.2063"
[5,] "21.2% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA101 + 78.8% Greek_Macedonia" "2.3592"
[6,] "77.4% Bulgarian_West + 22.6% Turkmen_Uzbekistan" "2.3908"
[7,] "76.5% Romanian + 23.5% Turkmen_Uzbekistan" "2.4049"
[8,] "24.9% Kipchak_DA179 + 75.1% Bulgarian_Central" "2.4207"
[9,] "16.6% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA385 + 83.4% Bulgarian_East" "2.4232"
[10,] "27% Kipchak_DA179 + 73% Romanian" "2.4288"
[11,] "18.2% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA100 + 81.8% Bulgarian_East" "2.4629"
[12,] "15.4% Xiongnu-Turk_DA41 + 84.6% Bulgarian_East" "2.5153"
[13,] "78.6% Bulgarian_Central + 21.4% Turkmen_Uzbekistan" "2.6764"
[14,] "17.3% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA385 + 82.7% Greek_Macedonia" "2.6997"
[15,] "20.4% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA65 + 79.6% Bulgarian_East" "2.7399"
[16,] "18.9% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA100 + 81.1% Greek_Macedonia" "2.7721"
[17,] "16% Xiongnu-Turk_DA41 + 84% Greek_Macedonia" "2.8878"
[18,] "16.4% Gokturk_DA89 + 83.6% Bulgarian_East" "2.9566"
[19,] "16.7% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA74 + 83.3% Bulgarian_East" "2.9593"
[20,] "16% Karakhanid_DA204 + 84% Bulgarian_East" "2.9831"
Kaspias
12-22-2020, 07:41 PM
New sample from Aytos, Bulgaria.
Gedmatch
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 31.31
2 North_European 25.91
3 Atlantic_Med 18.87
4 Southwest_Asian 9.15
5 Gedrosia 5.68
6 Siberian 3.06
7 Northwest_African 2.62
8 East_Asian 2.42
9 South_Asian 0.98
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 10.8
2 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 11.87
3 Greek (Dodecad) 12.4
4 Romanians (Behar) 12.49
5 O_Italian (Dodecad) 15.17
6 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 15.77
7 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 16.36
8 C_Italian (Dodecad) 17.49
9 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 17.93
10 Sicilian (Dodecad) 17.97
11 Tuscan (HGDP) 19.58
12 TSI30 (Metspalu) 20.27
13 Turkish (Dodecad) 22.08
14 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 22.09
15 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 22.7
16 N_Italian (Dodecad) 22.92
17 Turks (Behar) 23.76
18 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 24
19 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 25.42
20 North_Italian (HGDP) 25.53
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 72.5% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) + 27.5% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 4.08
2 65% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 35% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 4.29
3 71.7% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) + 28.3% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 4.42
4 73.8% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) + 26.2% Russian (HGDP) @ 4.58
5 71.9% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 28.1% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 4.75
6 66.9% Romanians (Behar) + 33.1% Turks (Behar) @ 4.83
7 73.9% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 26.1% Lebanese (Behar) @ 4.87
8 70.4% Romanians (Behar) + 29.6% Lebanese (Behar) @ 4.89
9 70.8% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 29.2% Turks (Behar) @ 4.95
10 71% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 29% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 4.95
11 61.5% Cypriots (Behar) + 38.5% Russian (HGDP) @ 4.97
12 55% Turkish (Dodecad) + 45% Hungarians (Behar) @ 5.03
13 73.7% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 26.3% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) @ 5.11
14 76.7% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 23.3% Jordanians (Behar) @ 5.11
15 66.3% Cypriots (Behar) + 33.7% FIN30 (1000Genomes) @ 5.11
16 74.7% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 25.3% Kurd (Dodecad) @ 5.12
17 75.6% Romanians (Behar) + 24.4% Iranian_Jews (Behar) @ 5.14
18 54.6% Hungarians (Behar) + 45.4% Druze (HGDP) @ 5.14
19 65.4% Romanians (Behar) + 34.6% Turkish (Dodecad) @ 5.17
20 71.9% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 28.1% Lebanese (Behar) @ 5.17
[1,] "Turk_Trakya" "5.5326"
[2,] "Turk_Makedonya" "6.8332"
[3,] "Greek_Rumelia" "7.1097"
[4,] "Turk_Deliorman" "7.2693"
[5,] "Bulgarian_Thrace" "7.714"
[6,] "Greek_Thrace_avg" "8.3142"
[7,] "Greek_Thessaloniki" "8.7215"
[8,] "Greek_Peloponnese" "8.8484"
[9,] "Crimean_Tatar_Mountain" "8.9227"
[10,] "Bulgarian_East" "9.5585"
[11,] "Pomak_Greece" "9.5653"
[12,] "MD_Gagauz" "9.7708"
[13,] "Greek_Northeast" "9.7801"
[14,] "Greek_Thessaly" "9.8712"
[15,] "Greek_Macedonia" "10.1569"
[16,] "Greek_Central" "10.5358"
[17,] "Greek_Athens" "10.6248"
[18,] "Albanian" "11.0122"
[19,] "Greek_Foca" "11.287"
[20,] "Bulgarian_Central" "11.7139"
[1,] "73.2% Greek_Fournoi + 26.8% Mordovian" "3.1273"
[2,] "66.9% Greek_Rhodes + 33.1% Mordovian" "3.2182"
[3,] "68.2% Greek_Kos + 31.8% Mordovian" "3.2795"
[4,] "33.6% Russian_North_Dvina + 66.4% Turk_Cyprus" "3.4593"
[5,] "72.6% Greek_Crete + 27.4% Mordovian" "3.4619"
[6,] "71.4% Pomak_Greece + 28.6% Turk_Central_Black_Sea" "3.5042"
[7,] "66.4% Pomak_Greece + 33.6% Turk_Southwest" "3.5376"
[8,] "65.2% Pomak_Greece + 34.8% Turk_West_BlackSea" "3.5504"
[9,] "37.3% Russian_Ryazan + 62.7% Turk_Cyprus" "3.5663"
[10,] "70.5% Pomak_Greece + 29.5% Turk_South" "3.5731"
[11,] "61.5% Greek_Cypriot + 38.5% Russian_North_Dvina" "3.5901"
[12,] "62.9% Pomak_Greece + 37.1% Turk_Northwest" "3.6296"
[13,] "68.7% Pomak_Greece + 31.3% Turk_Central_West" "3.6498"
[14,] "35% Russian_Kostroma + 65% Turk_Cyprus" "3.6973"
[15,] "35.1% Russian_Tver + 64.9% Turk_Cyprus" "3.7128"
[16,] "37% Russian_Voronezh + 63% Turk_Cyprus" "3.7193"
[17,] "36.9% Russian_Kursk + 63.1% Turk_Cyprus" "3.7266"
[18,] "35.5% Southwest_Russian + 64.5% Turk_Cyprus" "3.7441"
[19,] "67.9% Greek_Icaria + 32.1% Mordovian" "3.8003"
[20,] "37% Russian_Oryol + 63% Turk_Cyprus" "3.8217"
[1,] "78.9% Greek_Rumelia + 21.1% Nogai" "3.8494"
[2,] "77.4% Bulgarian_Thrace + 22.6% Nogai" "4.1306"
[3,] "74.6% Greek_Thessaloniki + 25.4% Nogai" "4.2901"
[4,] "75.8% Greek_Thrace_avg + 24.2% Nogai" "4.3016"
[5,] "84% Greek_Rumelia + 16% Turkmen_TKM" "4.804"
[6,] "86.7% Greek_Rumelia + 13.3% Turkmen_Afghanistan" "4.8958"
[7,] "72.4% Greek_Northeast + 27.6% Nogai" "4.921"
[8,] "88% Greek_Rumelia + 12% Uzbeks" "4.9246"
[9,] "84.1% Greek_Rumelia + 15.9% Turkmen_Iran" "4.9273"
[10,] "77% Pomak_Greece + 23% Azerbaijani_Iran" "4.9617"
[11,] "85.6% Greek_Rumelia + 14.4% Turkmen_Uzbekistan" "5.0463"
[12,] "83.9% Greek_Rumelia + 16.1% Kipchak_DA179" "5.067"
[13,] "86.7% Greek_Rumelia + 13.3% Uzbek" "5.0815"
[14,] "89.4% Greek_Rumelia + 10.6% Karakalpak" "5.105"
[15,] "88.7% Greek_Rumelia + 11.3% Ottoman_MA2195" "5.1273"
[16,] "82.8% Greek_Rumelia + 17.2% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe" "5.1577"
[17,] "90.1% Greek_Rumelia + 9.9% Karluk_DA222" "5.2023"
[18,] "90.1% Greek_Rumelia + 9.9% Uyghur" "5.207"
[19,] "82% Greek_Rumelia + 18% Ottoman_MA2196" "5.2325"
[20,] "89.8% Greek_Rumelia + 10.2% Karakhanid_DA204" "5.2343"
Kaspias
01-05-2021, 07:04 PM
I don't know if it is the right place to write but many people read this thread so thought it may be a good idea to post it here. We have never received any results from so-called Macedonian Yoruks until now, so if you're and from either Kocaali or Alikoç, and willing to take a DNA test, please contact me. I can provide support in any way and even be a sponsor for the kit.
Anyway, I received plenty of new Macedonian Turk samples lately. I find this kit interesting, so far he is geographically the Westernmost Balkan Turk result I have got. In addition, he was able to confirm relativity with a Macedonian Serb as 2nd-3th cousins which makes things even more interesting.
From:
https://i.ibb.co/Dwhg6bx/ff.png
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 North_European 32.27
2 Caucasus 31.12
3 Atlantic_Med 17.79
4 Gedrosia 7.13
5 Southwest_Asian 7.09
6 East_Asian 3.01
7 Northwest_African 1.48
8 Southeast_Asian 0.08
9 Sub_Saharan 0.03
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 7.6
2 Romanians (Behar) 9.23
3 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 9.39
4 Greek (Dodecad) 16.59
5 O_Italian (Dodecad) 18.02
6 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 21.49
7 C_Italian (Dodecad) 21.54
8 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 22.12
9 Hungarians (Behar) 22.36
10 Tuscan (HGDP) 22.8
11 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 23.3
12 TSI30 (Metspalu) 23.3
13 Sicilian (Dodecad) 23.34
14 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 24.17
15 N_Italian (Dodecad) 24.62
16 Turkish (Dodecad) 26.26
17 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 26.33
18 North_Italian (HGDP) 27.54
19 Turks (Behar) 27.74
20 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 28.01
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 56.6% Turkish (Dodecad) + 43.4% Polish (Dodecad) @ 3.24
2 80% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 20% Kumyks (Yunusbayev) @ 3.9
3 75.8% Romanians (Behar) + 24.2% Kumyks (Yunusbayev) @ 4.01
4 83.3% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 16.7% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 4.12
5 82.4% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 17.6% Lezgins (Behar) @ 4.15
6 55.3% Turks (Behar) + 44.7% Polish (Dodecad) @ 4.23
7 79.3% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 20.7% Nogais (Yunusbayev) @ 4.36
8 55.5% Hungarians (Behar) + 44.5% Turks (Behar) @ 4.36
9 62.9% Hungarians (Behar) + 37.1% Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) @ 4.49
10 85.1% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 14.9% Kurd (Dodecad) @ 4.53
11 54.2% Hungarians (Behar) + 45.8% Turkish (Dodecad) @ 4.53
12 83% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 17% Chechens (Yunusbayev) @ 4.53
13 62.4% Hungarians (Behar) + 37.6% Georgia_Jews (Behar) @ 4.56
14 85.1% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 14.9% Iranian (Dodecad) @ 4.61
15 56.8% Turkish (Dodecad) + 43.2% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 4.62
16 85% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 15% Kurds (Yunusbayev) @ 4.63
17 62.8% Hungarians (Behar) + 37.2% Armenian (Dodecad) @ 4.63
18 54.6% Turkish (Dodecad) + 45.4% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 4.64
19 78.8% Romanians (Behar) + 21.2% Lezgins (Behar) @ 4.65
20 86% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 14% Iranians (Behar) @ 4.71
[1,] "81.2% Pomak_Greece + 18.8% Nogai" "4.2225"
[2,] "74.6% Pomak_Bulgaria + 25.4% Nogai" "5.09"
[3,] "87.7% Pomak_Greece + 12.3% Azerbaijani_Iran" "5.3468"
[4,] "88.9% Pomak_Greece + 11.1% Zaza" "5.4441"
[5,] "88.8% Pomak_Greece + 11.2% Iran_Khorasan" "5.5002"
[6,] "74% Bulgarian_Central + 26% Nogai" "5.5415"
[7,] "89.1% Pomak_Greece + 10.9% Kurd_Kurmanji" "5.5464"
[8,] "88% Pomak_Greece + 12% Turkmen_Iran" "5.558"
[9,] "89.5% Pomak_Greece + 10.5% Kurd_Sorani" "5.5718"
[10,] "90.1% Pomak_Greece + 9.9% Iranian_Fars" "5.6295"
[11,] "72.2% Bulgarian_West + 27.8% Nogai" "5.8293"
[12,] "77.5% Bulgarian_East + 22.5% Nogai" "5.8542"
[13,] "89.7% Pomak_Greece + 10.3% Turkmen_TKM" "5.9835"
[14,] "89% Pomak_Greece + 11% Kipchak_DA179" "5.9894"
[15,] "88.7% Pomak_Greece + 11.3% Ottoman_MA2196" "6.0532"
[16,] "91.1% Pomak_Greece + 8.9% Turkmen_Uzbekistan" "6.1162"
[17,] "75.9% Greek_Macedonia + 24.1% Nogai" "6.1338"
[18,] "91.6% Pomak_Greece + 8.4% Uzbek" "6.1464"
[19,] "92.7% Pomak_Greece + 7.3% Uzbeks" "6.1564"
[20,] "93.8% Pomak_Greece + 6.2% Uyghur" "6.1961"
Mejgusu
01-05-2021, 08:25 PM
Kaspias, are there differences between Alevi and Sunni Balkan Turks? If i am not wrong Bektashis were widespread in Ottoman era, it is still existing among Albanians, are they just regular Albanians genetically without any Turkish influence?
Kaspias
01-05-2021, 08:58 PM
Kaspias, are there differences between Alevi and Sunni Balkan Turks? If i am not Bektashis were widespread in Ottoman era, it is still existing among Albanians, are they just regular Albanians genetically without any Turkish influence?
Not only Albanians but all of the Balkan Muslims, including a wave of Balkan Turks, has Bektashi origin but later Sunnified. For example, my mother doesn't know what Bektashism is but still using Bektashi greetings which she learned from her mother. When I ask her about the sect she says she is Sunni, but this is something recently developed. She actually doesn't even know what is the difference between sects despite being very religious. This is a pretty common case in the Balkans.
Alevi Albanians and Alevi Bosniaks(Alevi Pomaks are still present and of Macedonian Pomak origin, but no sample so far. Gorani Sunnified totally, I don't know about Torbeshi) have no difference from the Sunni ones and they show none Turkic admixture. This is something expected as a possible mix between locals and dervishes resulted in the child being Turkish and the descendant probably merged into the Balkan Turk community afterward. On the other hand, it might just be washed out, too.
In the sense of Balkan Turks, there is either none or negligible difference between Sunni and Alevi. I can say that Alevi's has a slight West Asian pull while Sunni's has a slight Mediterranean pull in some cases, but such differences occur within groups as well, and can not suggest a difference between the two. What can be said for sure that both groups processed the same external factors during the ethnic-creation phase. Alevi's and Sunni's probably mixed to some degree. Furthermore, Alevi's probably has more than one source of origin. Some might be just the descendants of some Dervish groups, and some can be Kızılbaş, for example. To sum it up, sectarian isolation did not cause a genetic drift in terms of averages, but sometimes such shifts can be seen at individual levels. As the mentioned drifts occur within Sunni's too, it can not suggest a difference between the two groups.
Mejgusu
01-06-2021, 01:38 PM
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That is very interesting, i did not know that this denomination was widespread among non Turks too, at least not in this numbers. Strictly speaking Alevis are an ethno-religious group and as far i know they did not accepted foreigners in the past. For example non-Turkish Alevis in Anatolia are often around 30% Turkish genetically, which definitely indicates contacts to Turks. So i expected some kind of Turkish admixture among Bektashi-non-Turks, but maybe like you said this lack can have different reasons, probably it vanished very early or have sociological causes.
I thought maybe in Balkans there were some differences between Sunnis and Alevis since in Anatolia this is not the case. Nevertheless thanks for your answere.
Kaspias
01-06-2021, 03:13 PM
That is very interesting, i did not know that this denomination was widespread among non Turks too, at least not in this numbers. Strictly speaking Alevis are an ethno-religious group and as far i know they did not accepted foreigners in the past. For example non-Turkish Alevis in Anatolia are often around 30% Turkish genetically, which definitely indicates contacts to Turks. So i expected some kind of Turkish admixture among Bektashi-non-Turks, but maybe like you said this lack can have different reasons, probably it vanished very early or have sociological causes.
I thought maybe in Balkans there were some differences between Sunnis and Alevis since in Anatolia this is not the case. Nevertheless thanks for your answere.
I had no idea about the DNA of Anatolian Alevis, but I have a thesis on it. There are many Zaza/Kurd-like results from Tunceli and Elazığ whom Balkan Turks often match. I do believe the reason is the expelling of the rebellious Celali followers to the Balkans and Iran. The Turks who stayed probably changed their identification from Turkish to Zaza/Kurdish as they became a minority after the expellings, this could explain the Turkish influence, too.
Kaspias
01-06-2021, 03:36 PM
It has been a while since I posted results from Thrace. New sample is from Kardzhali.
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 30.13
2 North_European 26.11
3 Atlantic_Med 17.34
4 Gedrosia 8.86
5 Southwest_Asian 6.51
6 Siberian 3.94
7 East_Asian 3.8
8 Northwest_African 2
9 South_Asian 0.99
10 East_African 0.17
11 Southeast_Asian 0.14
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 12.42
2 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 13.69
3 Romanians (Behar) 13.84
4 Greek (Dodecad) 15.5
5 O_Italian (Dodecad) 17
6 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 18.7
7 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 19.47
8 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 19.58
9 C_Italian (Dodecad) 19.74
10 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 20.4
11 Sicilian (Dodecad) 20.54
12 Tuscan (HGDP) 21.46
13 Turkish (Dodecad) 22.06
14 TSI30 (Metspalu) 22.1
15 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 23.31
16 Turks (Behar) 23.39
17 N_Italian (Dodecad) 24.19
18 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 24.45
19 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 26.28
20 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 26.58
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 66.4% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 33.6% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 3.04
2 68.9% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 31.1% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 3.64
3 53.4% Turks (Behar) + 46.6% Hungarians (Behar) @ 4.22
4 66.7% Romanians (Behar) + 33.3% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 4.43
5 54.9% Turkish (Dodecad) + 45.1% Hungarians (Behar) @ 4.75
6 64.3% Turks (Behar) + 35.7% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 4.75
7 65.7% Turkish (Dodecad) + 34.3% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 4.78
8 57.9% Turks (Behar) + 42.1% German (Dodecad) @ 5.16
9 64.6% Turks (Behar) + 35.4% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 5.19
10 66.1% Turkish (Dodecad) + 33.9% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 5.4
11 62.7% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 37.3% Nogais (Yunusbayev) @ 5.41
12 59.4% Turkish (Dodecad) + 40.6% German (Dodecad) @ 5.66
13 64.5% Turkish (Dodecad) + 35.5% Polish (Dodecad) @ 5.69
14 59.8% Romanians (Behar) + 40.2% Nogais (Yunusbayev) @ 5.69
15 70.6% Turkish (Dodecad) + 29.4% FIN30 (1000Genomes) @ 5.79
16 72.1% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 27.9% Iranians (Behar) @ 5.98
17 63.1% Turks (Behar) + 36.9% Polish (Dodecad) @ 6.02
18 70.9% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 29.1% Iranian (Dodecad) @ 6.04
19 71.3% Turkish (Dodecad) + 28.7% Finnish (Dodecad) @ 6.1
20 71.1% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 28.9% Kurd (Dodecad) @ 6.12
[1,] "64.2% Bulgarian_East + 35.8% Nogai" "2.5383"
[2,] "66.4% Bulgarian_Thrace + 33.6% Nogai" "2.6055"
[3,] "62.9% Greek_Macedonia + 37.1% Nogai" "2.7352"
[4,] "67.2% Greek_Rumelia + 32.8% Nogai" "3.25"
[5,] "57.3% Pomak_Greece + 42.7% Turk_Northwest" "3.335"
[6,] "70.3% Pomak_Greece + 29.7% Turkmen_Iran" "3.4511"
[7,] "64.6% Greek_Thrace_avg + 35.4% Nogai" "3.5307"
[8,] "65.5% Pomak_Greece + 34.5% Ottoman_MA2196" "3.5734"
[9,] "61.9% Pomak_Greece + 38.1% Turk_Southwest" "3.6154"
[10,] "60.5% Bulgarian_Central + 39.5% Nogai" "3.6213"
[11,] "58.4% Albanian_Kosovo + 41.6% Nogai" "3.704"
[12,] "65.4% Pomak_Greece + 34.6% Nogai" "3.8343"
[13,] "66.9% Pomak_Greece + 33.1% Turk_South" "3.939"
[14,] "61.8% Greek_Northeast + 38.2% Nogai" "3.9793"
[15,] "63.3% Greek_Thessaloniki + 36.7% Nogai" "4.012"
[16,] "60.4% Pomak_Bulgaria + 39.6% Nogai" "4.0194"
[17,] "68.1% Pomak_Greece + 31.9% Turk_Central_Black_Sea" "4.0409"
[18,] "58.9% Bulgarian_West + 41.1% Nogai" "4.1028"
[19,] "52.2% Pomak_Bulgaria + 47.8% Turk_Northwest" "4.1073"
[20,] "61.7% Pomak_Greece + 38.3% Turk_West_BlackSea" "4.3475"
[21,] "70.3% Bulgarian_East + 29.7% Turkmen_Iran" "4.3854"
[22,] "50.6% Bulgarian_West + 49.4% Turk_Northwest" "4.4102"
[23,] "57% Pomak_Bulgaria + 43% Turk_Southwest" "4.4144"
[24,] "48.3% Romanian + 51.7% Turk_Northwest" "4.4151"
[25,] "52.4% Bulgarian_Central + 47.6% Turk_Northwest" "4.4732"
[26,] "73.3% Greek_Rumelia + 26.7% Turkmen_TKM" "4.5153"
[27,] "56.2% Macedonian + 43.8% Nogai" "4.5318"
[28,] "65.7% Pomak_Greece + 34.3% Turk_Central_West" "4.5578"
[29,] "62.1% Pomak_Bulgaria + 37.9% Turk_South" "4.5937"
[30,] "77.6% Greek_Rumelia + 22.4% Turkmen_Afghanistan" "4.5992"
Kaspias
01-15-2021, 08:32 PM
Statistics so far.
https://i.ibb.co/23dmGgJ/Stats.png
There is an individual who gets 15.64% EE, from Dobrich, he recently matched with a Tatar very closely so I removed him from the ranking as there is suspicion if he has part Tatar or not.
Kaspias
01-16-2021, 02:22 PM
New sample from Kardzhali
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 North_European 29.29
2 Caucasus 23.61
3 Atlantic_Med 23.07
4 Gedrosia 7.08
5 Southwest_Asian 6.11
6 Siberian 3.62
7 East_Asian 2.95
8 Southeast_Asian 2.45
9 South_Asian 1.82
10 Northwest_African 0.01
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanians (Behar) 9.94
2 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 9.95
3 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 10.93
4 O_Italian (Dodecad) 14.16
5 Greek (Dodecad) 17.25
6 N_Italian (Dodecad) 18.65
7 C_Italian (Dodecad) 18.72
8 Tuscan (HGDP) 18.9
9 TSI30 (Metspalu) 18.9
10 Hungarians (Behar) 20.15
11 North_Italian (HGDP) 21.63
12 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 22.41
13 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 22.46
14 Sicilian (Dodecad) 22.61
15 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 22.76
16 German (Dodecad) 24.24
17 French (Dodecad) 25.73
18 French (HGDP) 25.88
19 Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) 26.41
20 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 26.69
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 83.6% Romanians (Behar) + 16.4% Hazara (HGDP) @ 4.73
2 84% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 16% Hazara (HGDP) @ 5.23
3 80.9% Romanians (Behar) + 19.1% Uzbeks (Behar) @ 5.28
4 72.2% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 27.8% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 5.32
5 53.9% Turkish (Dodecad) + 46.1% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 5.37
6 83.7% Romanians (Behar) + 16.3% Uygur (HGDP) @ 5.51
7 82.6% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 17.4% Hazara (HGDP) @ 5.59
8 53.7% Turkish (Dodecad) + 46.3% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 5.64
9 55.2% German (Dodecad) + 44.8% Turkish (Dodecad) @ 5.73
10 81.4% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 18.6% Uzbeks (Behar) @ 5.77
11 56.6% German (Dodecad) + 43.4% Turks (Behar) @ 5.87
12 65.6% C_Italian (Dodecad) + 34.4% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 5.88
13 52.5% Turks (Behar) + 47.5% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 5.91
14 84.2% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 15.8% Uygur (HGDP) @ 5.94
15 78.1% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 21.9% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 5.99
16 88.4% Romanians (Behar) + 11.6% Altai (Rasmussen) @ 6.01
17 80.6% Romanians (Behar) + 19.4% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 6.1
18 79.7% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 20.3% Uzbeks (Behar) @ 6.12
19 88.5% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 11.5% Altai (Rasmussen) @ 6.15
20 80.2% Romanians (Behar) + 19.8% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 6.16
[1,] "79.9% Romanian + 20.1% Turkmen_Uzbekistan" "2.3644"
[2,] "81.3% Bulgarian_West + 18.7% Uzbek" "2.5084"
[3,] "78.7% Macedonian + 21.3% Turkmen_Uzbekistan" "2.5306"
[4,] "86.4% Bulgarian_West + 13.6% Hazara" "2.6523"
[5,] "80.8% Bulgarian_West + 19.2% Turkmen_Uzbekistan" "2.6663"
[6,] "78.8% Romanian + 21.2% Turkmen_TKM" "2.7002"
[7,] "86% Bulgarian_Central + 14% Karluk_DA222" "2.7317"
[8,] "85.5% Bulgarian_West + 14.5% Karluk_DA222" "2.7482"
[9,] "79.5% Macedonian + 20.5% Uzbek" "2.7732"
[10,] "82.1% Bulgarian_Central + 17.9% Uzbek" "2.791"
[11,] "80.8% Romanian + 19.2% Uzbek" "2.8033"
[12,] "77.5% Macedonian + 22.5% Turkmen_TKM" "2.8042"
[13,] "82.1% Bulgarian_West + 17.9% Turkmen_Afghanistan" "2.8073"
[14,] "87% Bulgarian_Central + 13% Hazara" "2.8104"
[15,] "86.2% Greek_Macedonia + 13.8% Xiongnu-Turk_DA41" "2.8335"
[16,] "85.7% Bulgarian_West + 14.3% Uyghur" "2.8752"
[17,] "81.6% Greek_Macedonia + 18.4% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA65" "2.9008"
[18,] "79.7% Bulgarian_West + 20.3% Turkmen_TKM" "2.9062"
[19,] "75.5% Greek_Macedonia + 24.5% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe" "2.9161"
[20,] "83.7% Bulgarian_West + 16.3% Uzbeks" "2.9289"
Kaspias
01-16-2021, 02:36 PM
New sample from Thessaloniki. (Karacaova? / Almopia?)
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 28.63
2 North_European 28.4
3 Atlantic_Med 25.92
4 Southwest_Asian 8.34
5 Gedrosia 5.77
6 Siberian 2.44
7 Southeast_Asian 0.21
8 Northwest_African 0.17
9 Sub_Saharan 0.13
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 7.39
2 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 8.05
3 Romanians (Behar) 8.32
4 O_Italian (Dodecad) 9.78
5 Greek (Dodecad) 11.58
6 C_Italian (Dodecad) 14.06
7 Tuscan (HGDP) 14.69
8 TSI30 (Metspalu) 14.89
9 N_Italian (Dodecad) 16.19
10 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 17.93
11 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 18.02
12 Sicilian (Dodecad) 18.05
13 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 18.3
14 North_Italian (HGDP) 18.97
15 Hungarians (Behar) 22.13
16 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 24.11
17 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 25.77
18 German (Dodecad) 26.45
19 Baleares (1000Genomes) 26.53
20 French (Dodecad) 26.76
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 68.8% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 31.2% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.69
2 69.8% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 30.2% Russian (HGDP) @ 2.7
3 73.8% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 26.2% FIN30 (1000Genomes) @ 2.94
4 74.5% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 25.5% Finnish (Dodecad) @ 3.02
5 67.9% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 32.1% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 3.19
6 53.6% German (Dodecad) + 46.4% Cypriots (Behar) @ 3.23
7 54.8% Cypriots (Behar) + 45.2% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 3.25
8 69.4% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 30.6% Russian_B (Behar) @ 3.32
9 68.7% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 31.3% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 3.43
10 69.8% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 30.2% Russian (HGDP) @ 3.49
11 58.1% Hungarians (Behar) + 41.9% Cypriots (Behar) @ 3.58
12 66.3% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 33.7% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 3.64
13 69.7% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 30.3% Belorussian (Behar) @ 3.65
14 74.1% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 25.9% Lithuanians (Behar) @ 3.65
15 54.9% Cypriots (Behar) + 45.1% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 3.67
16 67.3% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 32.7% Polish (Dodecad) @ 3.68
17 55.3% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) + 44.7% Hungarians (Behar) @ 3.7
18 58.6% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 41.4% O_Italian (Dodecad) @ 3.71
19 72.7% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 27.3% Lithuanian (Dodecad) @ 3.72
20 82% Greek (Dodecad) + 18% FIN30 (1000Genomes) @ 3.76
[1,] "88.9% Greek_Thessaloniki + 11.1% Chuvash" "2.0509"
[2,] "88.7% Greek_Northeast + 11.3% Chuvash" "2.1303"
[3,] "35.2% Greek_Northeast + 64.8% Bulgarian_East" "2.1887"
[4,] "53.8% Greek_Northeast + 46.2% Pomak_Greece" "2.2052"
[5,] "90.3% Greek_Thrace_avg + 9.7% Chuvash" "2.2088"
[6,] "86.8% Greek_Thessaloniki + 13.2% Tatar_Kazan" "2.2168"
[7,] "28.6% Albanian + 71.4% Bulgarian_East" "2.2215"
[8,] "35.7% Greek_Thessaloniki + 64.3% Bulgarian_East" "2.2438"
[9,] "34.9% Greek_Thessaloniki + 65.1% Greek_Macedonia" "2.2875"
[10,] "38.5% Greek_Thrace_avg + 61.5% Bulgarian_East" "2.3005"
[11,] "62.1% Greek_Macedonia + 37.9% Greek_Thrace_avg" "2.313"
[12,] "33.9% Greek_Northeast + 66.1% Greek_Macedonia" "2.3209"
[13,] "60.4% Greek_Thrace_avg + 39.6% Bulgarian_West" "2.3323"
[14,] "65.5% Greek_Thrace_avg + 34.5% Romanian" "2.3467"
[15,] "56.1% Greek_Thrace_avg + 43.9% Bulgarian_Central" "2.3582"
[16,] "55.2% Greek_Northeast + 44.8% Pomak_Bulgaria" "2.3628"
[17,] "86.6% Greek_Northeast + 13.4% Tatar_Kazan" "2.3651"
[18,] "85.6% Albanian + 14.4% Chuvash" "2.3737"
[19,] "82.2% Romanian + 17.8% Nusayri_Turkey" "2.3838"
[20,] "88.5% Greek_Thrace_avg + 11.5% Tatar_Kazan" "2.3951"
I've read that Deliorman(Northern Bulgaria & Southern Romania) Turks are mainly from Chepni clan of Oghuz Turks, got it via Turkish Wikipedia. But Anatolian Chepnis(from all regions of Turkey) have the highest Mongoloid after Aegean Turks, while Deliorman Turks have a lot less than them. It seems Balkan Chepnis are way more mixed than Anatolian ones
I've read that Gagauz are Chepnis that settled in Moldovia/NE Romania and then later got Christianized
Kaspias
01-16-2021, 04:59 PM
I've read that Deliorman(Northern Bulgaria & Southern Romania) Turks are mainly from Chepni clan of Oghuz Turks, got it via Turkish Wikipedia. But Anatolian Chepnis(from all regions of Turkey) have the highest Mongoloid after Aegean Turks, while Deliorman Turks have a lot less than them. It seems Balkan Chepnis are way more mixed than Anatolian ones
I've read that Gagauz are Chepnis that settled in Moldovia/NE Romania and then later got Christianized
Deliorman or any other Turkish region in the Balkans can not be generalized by using the pattern "mostly x". Chepni were present in Deliorman while they were not present in Thrace and Macedonia, but were they majority? Not likely. Chepni migrations roots to the 16-17th centuries: Celali expelling of Alevi tribes. At the same time, many other tribes from the Inner Anatolia as well as Southern and Western Anatolia were expelled to the Deliorman. Before that, there were already Turkic population living that is consisted of Yörüks, sedentary Turks(originated from the earlier Karesi-Kayı-Karaman migrations.) as well as Tatars. Plus, there were already followers of Sarı Saltuk when those early Turks had come(they could be Chepni though). In addition, there were Kipchaks when Sarı Saltuk and his followers arrive, and they mixed with them as well. In this sense, Chepni's are just one of the sources among all Turkic input's that has an impact on Deliorman.
For Gagauz being Chepni, it is one of the theories that aim to explain the origin of Gagauzes. It might be or it might not. But a correction here is Christianization took place in Eastern Bulgaria, not in Moldova. Probably a great majority of Gagauz converted to Islam again when Ottomans arrived and created the base layer of Deliorman Turks. The ones who stayed as Christian mixed with Bulgarians and Greeks which will let the Turkic admixture wash out eventually.
Kaspias
01-16-2021, 05:12 PM
New sample from Deliorman. She did not state the city. (Targovishte?)
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 North_European 26.6
2 Caucasus 26.23
3 Atlantic_Med 20.57
4 Gedrosia 10.46
5 Southwest_Asian 6.17
6 Siberian 4.52
7 East_Asian 2.73
8 South_Asian 1.52
9 Southeast_Asian 1.16
10 East_African 0.03
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 12.19
2 Romanians (Behar) 12.93
3 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 13.48
4 O_Italian (Dodecad) 14.98
5 Greek (Dodecad) 16.41
6 C_Italian (Dodecad) 18.76
7 Tuscan (HGDP) 19.65
8 TSI30 (Metspalu) 19.98
9 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 20.64
10 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 20.93
11 N_Italian (Dodecad) 20.98
12 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 21.24
13 Sicilian (Dodecad) 21.25
14 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 22.76
15 North_Italian (HGDP) 23.9
16 Hungarians (Behar) 24.15
17 Turkish (Dodecad) 25.22
18 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 25.84
19 Turks (Behar) 26.59
20 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 26.82
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 59.2% Turks (Behar) + 40.8% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 3.68
2 60.5% Turkish (Dodecad) + 39.5% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 3.92
3 60.4% Turkish (Dodecad) + 39.6% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 4.12
4 68.9% Romanians (Behar) + 31.1% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 4.18
5 59.1% Turks (Behar) + 40.9% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 4.2
6 51.6% Turks (Behar) + 48.4% German (Dodecad) @ 4.44
7 68% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 32% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 4.48
8 69.7% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 30.3% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 4.58
9 70.6% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 29.4% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 4.78
10 53% Turkish (Dodecad) + 47% German (Dodecad) @ 4.96
11 54.8% Turks (Behar) + 45.2% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 5.07
12 72.5% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 27.5% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 5.22
13 53.3% Turks (Behar) + 46.7% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) @ 5.33
14 57.3% Turks (Behar) + 42.7% British_Isles (Dodecad) @ 5.57
15 82.6% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 17.4% Makrani (HGDP) @ 5.58
16 58.1% Turks (Behar) + 41.9% Orkney (1000Genomes) @ 5.65
17 56.2% Turkish (Dodecad) + 43.8% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 5.66
18 56.1% Turks (Behar) + 43.9% CEU30 (1000Genomes) @ 5.7
19 83.2% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 16.8% Balochi (HGDP) @ 5.71
20 71.4% Romanians (Behar) + 28.6% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 5.73
[1,] "69.2% Bulgarian_West + 30.8% Turkmen_Iran" "2.0026"
[2,] "76.6% MD_Gagauz + 23.4% Turkmen_Uzbekistan" "2.0577"
[3,] "67.7% Romanian + 32.3% Turkmen_Iran" "2.1944"
[4,] "70.6% Bulgarian_Central + 29.4% Turkmen_Iran" "2.2349"
[5,] "75.1% Bulgarian_East + 24.9% Turkmen_Uzbekistan" "2.2434"
[6,] "75.8% Greek_Rumelia + 24.2% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA101" "2.3042"
[7,] "74.3% Greek_Macedonia + 25.7% Turkmen_Uzbekistan" "2.3102"
[8,] "73.1% Greek_Thessaloniki + 26.9% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA101" "2.3554"
[9,] "72.6% Greek_Macedonia + 27.4% Turkmen_TKM" "2.3902"
[10,] "73.5% Bulgarian_East + 26.5% Turkmen_TKM" "2.4126"
[11,] "74.8% Greek_Thrace_avg + 25.2% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA101" "2.4681"
[12,] "81.4% Greek_Rumelia + 18.6% Xiongnu-Turk_DA38" "2.4708"
[13,] "70.1% Pomak_Bulgaria + 29.9% Turkmen_Iran" "2.626"
[14,] "73.3% Greek_Macedonia + 26.7% Turkmen_Iran" "2.6762"
[15,] "82.6% Bulgarian_Thrace + 17.4% Xiongnu-Turk_DA38" "2.7054"
[16,] "77.3% Bulgarian_Thrace + 22.7% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA101" "2.7231"
[17,] "74.2% Bulgarian_East + 25.8% Turkmen_Iran" "2.7232"
[18,] "72% Bulgarian_Central + 28% Turkmen_Uzbekistan" "2.7315"
[19,] "73% Greek_Thessaloniki + 27% Saka_Tian_Shan_DA47" "2.8062"
[20,] "80.6% Greek_Thrace_avg + 19.4% Xiongnu-Turk_DA38" "2.8597"
Deliorman or any other Turkish region in the Balkans can not be generalized by using the pattern "mostly x". Chepni were present in Deliorman while they were not present in Thrace and Macedonia, but were they majority? Not likely. Chepni migrations roots to the 16-17th centuries: Celali expelling of Alevi tribes. At the same time, many other tribes from the Inner Anatolia as well as Southern and Western Anatolia were expelled to the Deliorman. Before that, there were already Turkic population living that is consisted of Yörüks, sedentary Turks(originated from the earlier Karesi-Kayı-Karaman migrations.) as well as Tatars. Plus, there were already followers of Sarı Saltuk when those early Turks had come(they could be Chepni though). In addition, there were Kipchaks when Sarı Saltuk and his followers arrive, and they mixed with them as well. In this sense, Chepni's are just one of the sources among all Turkic input's that has an impact on Deliorman.
For Gagauz being Chepni, it is one of the theories that aim to explain the origin of Gagauzes. It might be or it might not. But a correction here is Christianization took place in Eastern Bulgaria, not in Moldova. Probably a great majority of Gagauz converted to Islam again when Ottomans arrived and created the base layer of Deliorman Turks. The ones who stayed as Christian mixed with Bulgarians and Greeks which will let the Turkic admixture wash out eventually.
Thank you so much :o I'm paternally have Chepni roots too and the Wikipedia page says Chepni were actually Alevi of Güvenç Abdal Association but later Sunnized, but Aegean & Marmara Chepnis are still majority Alevi. The trace history of my paternal grandfather's village also confirms that but my father is so anti-Alevi that he denies this fact.
https://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%87epniler
Chepni people in Balkans & Thrace
Turkmens, who passed to Deliorman and Dobrudja regions together with Sarı Saltuk and İzzeddin Keykavus before the Ottoman state was established, are from the Chepni clan. These Chepnies in Deliorman and Dobruja mixed with the local Kipchak and Pecheneg peoples as well as other Turkmen tribes that came later and lost their Chepni consciousness. However, they continue the Bektashism, which is the Chepni belief. Many of them migrated back to Western Anatolia, forming the present-day Western Anatolian Çepnis. The Turks in Dobruja say that they are Turkmen and that their faith leader is Sarı Saltuk and they pray on his behalf in Mosques and Dervish lodges even today.
A group of Chepni supporters of Izzeddin Keykavus in Romania and Moldova converted to Christianity. It is claimed that these Chepnis are called Gagauz because of Keykavus. Interestingly, it has been determined that the Gagauz Turks speak with Trabzon dialect. For example, the word Bıldır used in the dialect of Ordu-Giresun-Trabzon is used instead of last year. There are many more example words like this one.
Kaspias
01-16-2021, 06:23 PM
Thank you so much :o I'm paternally have Chepni roots too and the Wikipedia page says Chepni were actually Alevi of Güvenç Abdal Association but later Sunnized, but Aegean & Marmara Chepnis are still majority Alevi. The trace history of my paternal grandfather's village also confirms that but my father is so anti-Alevi that he denies this fact.
https://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%87epniler
Honestly, I don't know the sectarian process of Anatolian Chepni's. But Bektashism in the Balkans is not exactly related to Chepni population. Almost all the Balkan Dervishes who are not necessarily Chepni, actually most of them were of Khorasani, were Bektashi. Expectedly all of the Balkan Muslims, except for some Turks(like Tatars or early Yoruks who Sunnified from mainstream Islam) were Bektashi once. They are Sunnified afterward. Around 95% of them should be Sunni today.
Mejgusu
01-16-2021, 07:15 PM
Honestly, I don't know the sectarian process of Anatolian Chepni's. But Bektashism in the Balkans is not exactly related to Chepni population. Almost all the Balkan Dervishes who are not necessarily Chepni, actually most of them were of Khorasani, were Bektashi. Expectedly all of the Balkan Muslims, except for some Turks(like Tatars or early Yoruks who Sunnified from mainstream Islam) were Bektashi once. They are Sunnified afterward. Around 95% of them should be Sunni today.
We have also a village with the name of Chepni and if i am not wrong there is the tomb of Haci Bektas descendant(but i am not sure tbh). I don’t know about his tribe just he was a Khorasani Turk.
I hope its not too off topic.
Kaspias
01-20-2021, 07:51 PM
A family from Kardzhali.
Father
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 29.23
2 North_European 23.29
3 Atlantic_Med 18.42
4 Southwest_Asian 9.35
5 Gedrosia 8.77
6 Siberian 5.17
7 East_Asian 5.06
8 Northwest_African 0.49
9 South_Asian 0.22
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 14.81
2 Greek (Dodecad) 14.84
3 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 15.87
4 Romanians (Behar) 16.16
5 O_Italian (Dodecad) 16.37
6 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 17.31
7 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 17.91
8 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 18.6
9 C_Italian (Dodecad) 18.64
10 Sicilian (Dodecad) 18.94
11 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 20.05
12 Tuscan (HGDP) 20.46
13 Turkish (Dodecad) 21.01
14 TSI30 (Metspalu) 21.16
15 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 22.36
16 Turks (Behar) 22.38
17 N_Italian (Dodecad) 23.7
18 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 24.12
19 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 24.34
20 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 25.68
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 69.8% Greek (Dodecad) + 30.2% Uzbeks (Behar) @ 5.56
2 62.9% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 37.1% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 5.86
3 55.7% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 44.3% Nogais (Yunusbayev) @ 6.1
4 68% Turkish (Dodecad) + 32% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 6.21
5 66.7% Turks (Behar) + 33.3% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 6.27
6 68.2% Turkish (Dodecad) + 31.8% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 6.29
7 66.5% Turks (Behar) + 33.5% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 6.35
8 65.1% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 34.9% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 6.44
9 60.5% Turks (Behar) + 39.5% German (Dodecad) @ 6.55
10 63.9% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 36.1% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 6.59
11 56.7% Turks (Behar) + 43.3% Hungarians (Behar) @ 6.76
12 62.2% Turkish (Dodecad) + 37.8% German (Dodecad) @ 6.81
13 68.6% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 31.4% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 6.87
14 74.8% Greek (Dodecad) + 25.2% Uygur (HGDP) @ 6.92
15 62.9% Romanians (Behar) + 37.1% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 6.95
16 58.5% Turkish (Dodecad) + 41.5% Hungarians (Behar) @ 6.95
17 75.7% Greek (Dodecad) + 24.3% Hazara (HGDP) @ 7.06
18 70.5% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) + 29.5% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 7.11
19 63.3% Turks (Behar) + 36.7% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 7.21
20 54.7% Nogais (Yunusbayev) + 45.3% N_Italian (Dodecad) @ 7.29
[1,] "69.7% Greek_Rumelia + 30.3% Turkmen_TKM" "3.5529"
[2,] "71.5% Greek_Rumelia + 28.5% Turkmen_Uzbekistan" "3.6049"
[3,] "74.5% Greek_Rumelia + 25.5% Turkmen_Afghanistan" "3.7517"
[4,] "67.2% Greek_Thessaloniki + 32.8% Turkmen_TKM" "3.7579"
[5,] "68.5% Greek_Thrace_avg + 31.5% Turkmen_TKM" "3.8831"
[6,] "77% Greek_Rumelia + 23% Uzbeks" "3.9079"
[7,] "69.2% Greek_Thessaloniki + 30.8% Turkmen_Uzbekistan" "4.086"
[8,] "70.5% Greek_Thrace_avg + 29.5% Turkmen_Uzbekistan" "4.1483"
[9,] "73.6% Greek_Thrace_avg + 26.4% Turkmen_Afghanistan" "4.1594"
[10,] "70% Bulgarian_Thrace + 30% Turkmen_TKM" "4.1694"
[11,] "72.4% Greek_Thessaloniki + 27.6% Turkmen_Afghanistan" "4.1787"
[12,] "69.9% Greek_Rumelia + 30.1% Turkmen_Iran" "4.1836"
[13,] "74.1% Greek_Rumelia + 25.9% Uzbek" "4.1843"
[14,] "71.8% Bulgarian_Thrace + 28.2% Turkmen_Uzbekistan" "4.218"
[15,] "80.2% Greek_Rumelia + 19.8% Karluk_DA222" "4.2202"
[16,] "68.8% Greek_Rumelia + 31.2% Kipchak_DA179" "4.2665"
[17,] "76.1% Greek_Thrace_avg + 23.9% Uzbeks" "4.3151"
[18,] "75% Greek_Thessaloniki + 25% Uzbeks" "4.3418"
[19,] "67.3% Greek_Thessaloniki + 32.7% Turkmen_Iran" "4.3536"
[20,] "69.9% Bulgarian_Thrace + 30.1% Turkmen_Iran" "4.3691"
Mother
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 28.48
2 North_European 24.32
3 Atlantic_Med 18.63
4 Southwest_Asian 8.88
5 Gedrosia 7.62
6 East_Asian 6.27
7 Siberian 3.92
8 South_Asian 1.3
9 East_African 0.29
10 Northwest_African 0.18
11 Southeast_Asian 0.11
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 13.8
2 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 14.84
3 Romanians (Behar) 14.99
4 Greek (Dodecad) 15.12
5 O_Italian (Dodecad) 16.25
6 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 17.98
7 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 18.54
8 C_Italian (Dodecad) 18.82
9 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 19.3
10 Sicilian (Dodecad) 19.6
11 Tuscan (HGDP) 20.37
12 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 20.67
13 TSI30 (Metspalu) 21.06
14 Turkish (Dodecad) 22.4
15 N_Italian (Dodecad) 23.28
16 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 23.35
17 Turks (Behar) 23.86
18 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 25.02
19 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 25.47
20 North_Italian (HGDP) 25.87
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 65.7% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 34.3% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 5.82
2 69.5% Greek (Dodecad) + 30.5% Uzbeks (Behar) @ 5.96
3 76.7% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 23.3% Hazara (HGDP) @ 6.12
4 68% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 32% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 6.38
5 72.1% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 27.9% Uzbeks (Behar) @ 6.49
6 75.3% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 24.7% Hazara (HGDP) @ 6.57
7 74% Greek (Dodecad) + 26% Uygur (HGDP) @ 6.67
8 65.9% Romanians (Behar) + 34.1% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 6.68
9 56.9% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 43.1% Nogais (Yunusbayev) @ 6.79
10 66% Turkish (Dodecad) + 34% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 6.83
11 70.5% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 29.5% Uzbeks (Behar) @ 6.89
12 76.3% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 23.7% Uygur (HGDP) @ 6.94
13 66.2% Turkish (Dodecad) + 33.8% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 6.99
14 64.5% Turks (Behar) + 35.5% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 7.16
15 64.7% Turks (Behar) + 35.3% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 7.17
16 53.9% Turks (Behar) + 46.1% Hungarians (Behar) @ 7.23
17 55.6% Turkish (Dodecad) + 44.4% Hungarians (Behar) @ 7.26
18 58% Turks (Behar) + 42% German (Dodecad) @ 7.27
19 75.4% Greek (Dodecad) + 24.6% Hazara (HGDP) @ 7.31
20 59.7% Turkish (Dodecad) + 40.3% German (Dodecad) @ 7.35
[1,] "77% Greek_Rumelia + 23% Uzbeks" "3.1524"
[2,] "80.1% Greek_Rumelia + 19.9% Uyghur" "3.4131"
[3,] "68.6% Greek_Rumelia + 31.4% Kipchak_DA179" "3.4476"
[4,] "75.1% Greek_Rumelia + 24.9% Turkmen_Afghanistan" "3.5775"
[5,] "75.1% Greek_Thessaloniki + 24.9% Uzbeks" "3.6107"
[6,] "74.3% Greek_Rumelia + 25.7% Uzbek" "3.6488"
[7,] "70.7% Greek_Rumelia + 29.3% Turkmen_TKM" "3.6845"
[8,] "76.1% Greek_Thrace_avg + 23.9% Uzbeks" "3.7181"
[9,] "66.1% Greek_Thessaloniki + 33.9% Kipchak_DA179" "3.7561"
[10,] "77.5% Bulgarian_Thrace + 22.5% Uzbeks" "3.7996"
[11,] "81.6% Greek_Rumelia + 18.4% Hazara" "3.8025"
[12,] "78.6% Greek_Rumelia + 21.4% Karluk_DA230" "3.8207"
[13,] "79.5% Greek_Rumelia + 20.5% Karakalpak" "3.8247"
[14,] "68.1% Greek_Thessaloniki + 31.9% Turkmen_TKM" "3.8949"
[15,] "67.5% Greek_Thrace_avg + 32.5% Kipchak_DA179" "3.975"
[16,] "72.1% Greek_Thessaloniki + 27.9% Uzbek" "3.9752"
[17,] "72.9% Greek_Thessaloniki + 27.1% Turkmen_Afghanistan" "4.008"
[18,] "80.6% Bulgarian_Thrace + 19.4% Uyghur" "4.0432"
[19,] "74.1% Greek_Thrace_avg + 25.9% Turkmen_Afghanistan" "4.0867"
[20,] "75.5% Bulgarian_Thrace + 24.5% Turkmen_Afghanistan" "4.0901"
Child
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 29.76
2 North_European 20.81
3 Atlantic_Med 20.37
4 Gedrosia 9.75
5 Southwest_Asian 7.8
6 East_Asian 5.3
7 Siberian 3.47
8 South_Asian 1.96
9 East_African 0.66
10 Northwest_African 0.12
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek (Dodecad) 13.48
2 O_Italian (Dodecad) 14.58
3 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 15.72
4 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 15.83
5 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 16.36
6 C_Italian (Dodecad) 16.45
7 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 16.46
8 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 16.8
9 Sicilian (Dodecad) 16.8
10 Romanians (Behar) 17.07
11 Tuscan (HGDP) 18.23
12 TSI30 (Metspalu) 19.09
13 Turkish (Dodecad) 19.79
14 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 20.52
15 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 20.96
16 Turks (Behar) 21.41
17 N_Italian (Dodecad) 22.07
18 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 22.34
19 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 24.28
20 North_Italian (HGDP) 24.5
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 71.6% Greek (Dodecad) + 28.4% Uzbeks (Behar) @ 3.82
2 59.6% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 40.4% Nogais (Yunusbayev) @ 4.59
3 76.4% Greek (Dodecad) + 23.6% Hazara (HGDP) @ 4.65
4 70% Greek (Dodecad) + 30% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 4.73
5 75.9% Greek (Dodecad) + 24.1% Uygur (HGDP) @ 4.83
6 69.8% Turkish (Dodecad) + 30.2% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 5.34
7 66% Turks (Behar) + 34% British_Isles (Dodecad) @ 5.46
8 66.1% Turkish (Dodecad) + 33.9% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 5.47
9 67.9% Turkish (Dodecad) + 32.1% British_Isles (Dodecad) @ 5.48
10 68.6% Turkish (Dodecad) + 31.4% Orkney (1000Genomes) @ 5.51
11 68.5% Turkish (Dodecad) + 31.5% Orcadian (HGDP) @ 5.59
12 64.2% Turks (Behar) + 35.8% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 5.59
13 67.1% Turkish (Dodecad) + 32.9% English (Dodecad) @ 5.6
14 67% Turkish (Dodecad) + 33% CEU30 (1000Genomes) @ 5.61
15 68.4% Turkish (Dodecad) + 31.6% Irish (Dodecad) @ 5.63
16 64.9% Turkish (Dodecad) + 35.1% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) @ 5.63
17 66.8% Turkish (Dodecad) + 33.2% Kent (1000Genomes) @ 5.66
18 65.2% Turks (Behar) + 34.8% English (Dodecad) @ 5.67
19 64.9% Turks (Behar) + 35.1% Kent (1000Genomes) @ 5.67
20 65.1% Turks (Behar) + 34.9% CEU30 (1000Genomes) @ 5.67
[1,] "65% Albanian + 35% Turkmen_Iran" "2.0864"
[2,] "67.2% Greek_Thessaloniki + 32.8% Turkmen_Iran" "2.273"
[3,] "67.2% Greek_Northeast + 32.8% Turkmen_Iran" "2.547"
[4,] "68.5% Greek_Thrace_avg + 31.5% Turkmen_Iran" "2.6147"
[5,] "65.9% Albanian + 34.1% Turkmen_TKM" "2.7108"
[6,] "69.7% Greek_Thessaloniki + 30.3% Turkmen_Uzbekistan" "2.8227"
[7,] "62.8% Albanian_Kosovo + 37.2% Turkmen_Iran" "2.9218"
[8,] "68.2% Greek_Thessaloniki + 31.8% Turkmen_TKM" "2.9859"
[9,] "67.7% Albanian + 32.3% Turkmen_Uzbekistan" "3.0227"
[10,] "71% Greek_Thrace_avg + 29% Turkmen_Uzbekistan" "3.0674"
[11,] "69.4% Greek_Rumelia + 30.6% Turkmen_Iran" "3.0922"
[12,] "62.4% Greek_Thrace_avg + 37.6% Ottoman_MA2196" "3.1151"
[13,] "71.7% Greek_Rumelia + 28.3% Turkmen_Uzbekistan" "3.1501"
[14,] "63.1% Bulgarian_Thrace + 36.9% Ottoman_MA2196" "3.2128"
[15,] "63.2% Greek_Rumelia + 36.8% Ottoman_MA2196" "3.2155"
[16,] "61.1% Greek_Thessaloniki + 38.9% Ottoman_MA2196" "3.2209"
[17,] "69.5% Greek_Thrace_avg + 30.5% Turkmen_TKM" "3.26"
[18,] "69.4% Bulgarian_Thrace + 30.6% Turkmen_Iran" "3.3048"
[19,] "68.3% Greek_Northeast + 31.7% Turkmen_TKM" "3.3236"
[20,] "61.1% Greek_Northeast + 38.9% Ottoman_MA2196" "3.346"
Mejgusu
01-20-2021, 08:21 PM
Is that normal that someone shows less(or in other cases more) east eurasian admixture than it must be? Also ther components seem to be different than expected.
Abriekman
01-20-2021, 08:33 PM
A family from Kardzhali.
Father
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 29.23
2 North_European 23.29
3 Atlantic_Med 18.42
4 Southwest_Asian 9.35
5 Gedrosia 8.77
6 Siberian 5.17
7 East_Asian 5.06
8 Northwest_African 0.49
9 South_Asian 0.22
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 14.81
2 Greek (Dodecad) 14.84
3 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 15.87
4 Romanians (Behar) 16.16
5 O_Italian (Dodecad) 16.37
6 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 17.31
7 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 17.91
8 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 18.6
9 C_Italian (Dodecad) 18.64
10 Sicilian (Dodecad) 18.94
11 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 20.05
12 Tuscan (HGDP) 20.46
13 Turkish (Dodecad) 21.01
14 TSI30 (Metspalu) 21.16
15 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 22.36
16 Turks (Behar) 22.38
17 N_Italian (Dodecad) 23.7
18 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 24.12
19 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 24.34
20 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 25.68
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 69.8% Greek (Dodecad) + 30.2% Uzbeks (Behar) @ 5.56
2 62.9% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 37.1% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 5.86
3 55.7% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 44.3% Nogais (Yunusbayev) @ 6.1
4 68% Turkish (Dodecad) + 32% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 6.21
5 66.7% Turks (Behar) + 33.3% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 6.27
6 68.2% Turkish (Dodecad) + 31.8% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 6.29
7 66.5% Turks (Behar) + 33.5% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 6.35
8 65.1% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 34.9% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 6.44
9 60.5% Turks (Behar) + 39.5% German (Dodecad) @ 6.55
10 63.9% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 36.1% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 6.59
11 56.7% Turks (Behar) + 43.3% Hungarians (Behar) @ 6.76
12 62.2% Turkish (Dodecad) + 37.8% German (Dodecad) @ 6.81
13 68.6% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 31.4% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 6.87
14 74.8% Greek (Dodecad) + 25.2% Uygur (HGDP) @ 6.92
15 62.9% Romanians (Behar) + 37.1% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 6.95
16 58.5% Turkish (Dodecad) + 41.5% Hungarians (Behar) @ 6.95
17 75.7% Greek (Dodecad) + 24.3% Hazara (HGDP) @ 7.06
18 70.5% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) + 29.5% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 7.11
19 63.3% Turks (Behar) + 36.7% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 7.21
20 54.7% Nogais (Yunusbayev) + 45.3% N_Italian (Dodecad) @ 7.29
[1,] "69.7% Greek_Rumelia + 30.3% Turkmen_TKM" "3.5529"
[2,] "71.5% Greek_Rumelia + 28.5% Turkmen_Uzbekistan" "3.6049"
[3,] "74.5% Greek_Rumelia + 25.5% Turkmen_Afghanistan" "3.7517"
[4,] "67.2% Greek_Thessaloniki + 32.8% Turkmen_TKM" "3.7579"
[5,] "68.5% Greek_Thrace_avg + 31.5% Turkmen_TKM" "3.8831"
[6,] "77% Greek_Rumelia + 23% Uzbeks" "3.9079"
[7,] "69.2% Greek_Thessaloniki + 30.8% Turkmen_Uzbekistan" "4.086"
[8,] "70.5% Greek_Thrace_avg + 29.5% Turkmen_Uzbekistan" "4.1483"
[9,] "73.6% Greek_Thrace_avg + 26.4% Turkmen_Afghanistan" "4.1594"
[10,] "70% Bulgarian_Thrace + 30% Turkmen_TKM" "4.1694"
[11,] "72.4% Greek_Thessaloniki + 27.6% Turkmen_Afghanistan" "4.1787"
[12,] "69.9% Greek_Rumelia + 30.1% Turkmen_Iran" "4.1836"
[13,] "74.1% Greek_Rumelia + 25.9% Uzbek" "4.1843"
[14,] "71.8% Bulgarian_Thrace + 28.2% Turkmen_Uzbekistan" "4.218"
[15,] "80.2% Greek_Rumelia + 19.8% Karluk_DA222" "4.2202"
[16,] "68.8% Greek_Rumelia + 31.2% Kipchak_DA179" "4.2665"
[17,] "76.1% Greek_Thrace_avg + 23.9% Uzbeks" "4.3151"
[18,] "75% Greek_Thessaloniki + 25% Uzbeks" "4.3418"
[19,] "67.3% Greek_Thessaloniki + 32.7% Turkmen_Iran" "4.3536"
[20,] "69.9% Bulgarian_Thrace + 30.1% Turkmen_Iran" "4.3691"
Mother
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 28.48
2 North_European 24.32
3 Atlantic_Med 18.63
4 Southwest_Asian 8.88
5 Gedrosia 7.62
6 East_Asian 6.27
7 Siberian 3.92
8 South_Asian 1.3
9 East_African 0.29
10 Northwest_African 0.18
11 Southeast_Asian 0.11
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 13.8
2 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 14.84
3 Romanians (Behar) 14.99
4 Greek (Dodecad) 15.12
5 O_Italian (Dodecad) 16.25
6 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 17.98
7 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 18.54
8 C_Italian (Dodecad) 18.82
9 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 19.3
10 Sicilian (Dodecad) 19.6
11 Tuscan (HGDP) 20.37
12 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 20.67
13 TSI30 (Metspalu) 21.06
14 Turkish (Dodecad) 22.4
15 N_Italian (Dodecad) 23.28
16 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 23.35
17 Turks (Behar) 23.86
18 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 25.02
19 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 25.47
20 North_Italian (HGDP) 25.87
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 65.7% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 34.3% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 5.82
2 69.5% Greek (Dodecad) + 30.5% Uzbeks (Behar) @ 5.96
3 76.7% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 23.3% Hazara (HGDP) @ 6.12
4 68% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 32% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 6.38
5 72.1% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 27.9% Uzbeks (Behar) @ 6.49
6 75.3% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 24.7% Hazara (HGDP) @ 6.57
7 74% Greek (Dodecad) + 26% Uygur (HGDP) @ 6.67
8 65.9% Romanians (Behar) + 34.1% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 6.68
9 56.9% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 43.1% Nogais (Yunusbayev) @ 6.79
10 66% Turkish (Dodecad) + 34% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 6.83
11 70.5% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 29.5% Uzbeks (Behar) @ 6.89
12 76.3% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 23.7% Uygur (HGDP) @ 6.94
13 66.2% Turkish (Dodecad) + 33.8% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 6.99
14 64.5% Turks (Behar) + 35.5% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 7.16
15 64.7% Turks (Behar) + 35.3% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 7.17
16 53.9% Turks (Behar) + 46.1% Hungarians (Behar) @ 7.23
17 55.6% Turkish (Dodecad) + 44.4% Hungarians (Behar) @ 7.26
18 58% Turks (Behar) + 42% German (Dodecad) @ 7.27
19 75.4% Greek (Dodecad) + 24.6% Hazara (HGDP) @ 7.31
20 59.7% Turkish (Dodecad) + 40.3% German (Dodecad) @ 7.35
[1,] "77% Greek_Rumelia + 23% Uzbeks" "3.1524"
[2,] "80.1% Greek_Rumelia + 19.9% Uyghur" "3.4131"
[3,] "68.6% Greek_Rumelia + 31.4% Kipchak_DA179" "3.4476"
[4,] "75.1% Greek_Rumelia + 24.9% Turkmen_Afghanistan" "3.5775"
[5,] "75.1% Greek_Thessaloniki + 24.9% Uzbeks" "3.6107"
[6,] "74.3% Greek_Rumelia + 25.7% Uzbek" "3.6488"
[7,] "70.7% Greek_Rumelia + 29.3% Turkmen_TKM" "3.6845"
[8,] "76.1% Greek_Thrace_avg + 23.9% Uzbeks" "3.7181"
[9,] "66.1% Greek_Thessaloniki + 33.9% Kipchak_DA179" "3.7561"
[10,] "77.5% Bulgarian_Thrace + 22.5% Uzbeks" "3.7996"
[11,] "81.6% Greek_Rumelia + 18.4% Hazara" "3.8025"
[12,] "78.6% Greek_Rumelia + 21.4% Karluk_DA230" "3.8207"
[13,] "79.5% Greek_Rumelia + 20.5% Karakalpak" "3.8247"
[14,] "68.1% Greek_Thessaloniki + 31.9% Turkmen_TKM" "3.8949"
[15,] "67.5% Greek_Thrace_avg + 32.5% Kipchak_DA179" "3.975"
[16,] "72.1% Greek_Thessaloniki + 27.9% Uzbek" "3.9752"
[17,] "72.9% Greek_Thessaloniki + 27.1% Turkmen_Afghanistan" "4.008"
[18,] "80.6% Bulgarian_Thrace + 19.4% Uyghur" "4.0432"
[19,] "74.1% Greek_Thrace_avg + 25.9% Turkmen_Afghanistan" "4.0867"
[20,] "75.5% Bulgarian_Thrace + 24.5% Turkmen_Afghanistan" "4.0901"
Child
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 29.76
2 North_European 20.81
3 Atlantic_Med 20.37
4 Gedrosia 9.75
5 Southwest_Asian 7.8
6 East_Asian 5.3
7 Siberian 3.47
8 South_Asian 1.96
9 East_African 0.66
10 Northwest_African 0.12
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek (Dodecad) 13.48
2 O_Italian (Dodecad) 14.58
3 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 15.72
4 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 15.83
5 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 16.36
6 C_Italian (Dodecad) 16.45
7 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 16.46
8 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 16.8
9 Sicilian (Dodecad) 16.8
10 Romanians (Behar) 17.07
11 Tuscan (HGDP) 18.23
12 TSI30 (Metspalu) 19.09
13 Turkish (Dodecad) 19.79
14 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 20.52
15 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 20.96
16 Turks (Behar) 21.41
17 N_Italian (Dodecad) 22.07
18 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 22.34
19 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 24.28
20 North_Italian (HGDP) 24.5
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 71.6% Greek (Dodecad) + 28.4% Uzbeks (Behar) @ 3.82
2 59.6% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 40.4% Nogais (Yunusbayev) @ 4.59
3 76.4% Greek (Dodecad) + 23.6% Hazara (HGDP) @ 4.65
4 70% Greek (Dodecad) + 30% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 4.73
5 75.9% Greek (Dodecad) + 24.1% Uygur (HGDP) @ 4.83
6 69.8% Turkish (Dodecad) + 30.2% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 5.34
7 66% Turks (Behar) + 34% British_Isles (Dodecad) @ 5.46
8 66.1% Turkish (Dodecad) + 33.9% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 5.47
9 67.9% Turkish (Dodecad) + 32.1% British_Isles (Dodecad) @ 5.48
10 68.6% Turkish (Dodecad) + 31.4% Orkney (1000Genomes) @ 5.51
11 68.5% Turkish (Dodecad) + 31.5% Orcadian (HGDP) @ 5.59
12 64.2% Turks (Behar) + 35.8% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 5.59
13 67.1% Turkish (Dodecad) + 32.9% English (Dodecad) @ 5.6
14 67% Turkish (Dodecad) + 33% CEU30 (1000Genomes) @ 5.61
15 68.4% Turkish (Dodecad) + 31.6% Irish (Dodecad) @ 5.63
16 64.9% Turkish (Dodecad) + 35.1% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) @ 5.63
17 66.8% Turkish (Dodecad) + 33.2% Kent (1000Genomes) @ 5.66
18 65.2% Turks (Behar) + 34.8% English (Dodecad) @ 5.67
19 64.9% Turks (Behar) + 35.1% Kent (1000Genomes) @ 5.67
20 65.1% Turks (Behar) + 34.9% CEU30 (1000Genomes) @ 5.67
[1,] "65% Albanian + 35% Turkmen_Iran" "2.0864"
[2,] "67.2% Greek_Thessaloniki + 32.8% Turkmen_Iran" "2.273"
[3,] "67.2% Greek_Northeast + 32.8% Turkmen_Iran" "2.547"
[4,] "68.5% Greek_Thrace_avg + 31.5% Turkmen_Iran" "2.6147"
[5,] "65.9% Albanian + 34.1% Turkmen_TKM" "2.7108"
[6,] "69.7% Greek_Thessaloniki + 30.3% Turkmen_Uzbekistan" "2.8227"
[7,] "62.8% Albanian_Kosovo + 37.2% Turkmen_Iran" "2.9218"
[8,] "68.2% Greek_Thessaloniki + 31.8% Turkmen_TKM" "2.9859"
[9,] "67.7% Albanian + 32.3% Turkmen_Uzbekistan" "3.0227"
[10,] "71% Greek_Thrace_avg + 29% Turkmen_Uzbekistan" "3.0674"
[11,] "69.4% Greek_Rumelia + 30.6% Turkmen_Iran" "3.0922"
[12,] "62.4% Greek_Thrace_avg + 37.6% Ottoman_MA2196" "3.1151"
[13,] "71.7% Greek_Rumelia + 28.3% Turkmen_Uzbekistan" "3.1501"
[14,] "63.1% Bulgarian_Thrace + 36.9% Ottoman_MA2196" "3.2128"
[15,] "63.2% Greek_Rumelia + 36.8% Ottoman_MA2196" "3.2155"
[16,] "61.1% Greek_Thessaloniki + 38.9% Ottoman_MA2196" "3.2209"
[17,] "69.5% Greek_Thrace_avg + 30.5% Turkmen_TKM" "3.26"
[18,] "69.4% Bulgarian_Thrace + 30.6% Turkmen_Iran" "3.3048"
[19,] "68.3% Greek_Northeast + 31.7% Turkmen_TKM" "3.3236"
[20,] "61.1% Greek_Northeast + 38.9% Ottoman_MA2196" "3.346"
Why is primary population Greek, but not Bulgarian?
Dirdepo
01-20-2021, 10:23 PM
Why is primary population Greek, but not Bulgarian?
There is some Bulgarian in the oracle, it has equal proportions with Greek when you add Turkmen proxy
Abriekman
01-20-2021, 10:37 PM
There is some Bulgarian in the oracle, it has equal proportions with Greek when you add Turkmen proxy
Are you sure it is equal? Greeks are more East Med and not Turkmens nor Bulgarians have such high percentage if this component
Nice signature you have :thumb001: I can be 95% Polish and 5% Sudanese on Gedmatch calculators if I want
Dirdepo
01-20-2021, 10:45 PM
Are you sure it is equal? Greeks are more East Med and bit Turkmens nor Bulgarians have such high percentage if this component
Nice signature you have :thumb001: I can be 95% Polish and 5% Sudanese on Gedmatch calculators if I want
I can be 99.7% Ukrainian as my highest. Bulgarian and Greek are similar they are just converted eachother. You can see in the numbers is obvious.
Man I seen your results before, we are somewhat similar. The main difference I have minimally higher EHG + Iberomaurusian and you have minimally higher Farmer + Corded Ware
Abriekman
01-20-2021, 10:54 PM
I can be 99.7% Ukrainian as my highest. Bulgarian and Greek are similar they are just converted eachother. You can see in the numbers is obvious.
Man I seen your results before, we are somewhat similar. The main difference I have minimally higher EHG + Iberomaurusian and you have minimally higher Farmer + Corded Ware
Greeks are less Slavic, this is main difference.
How do you know my results? Never posted ancient G25 or Gedmatch results.
I feel like you're that Moldovlah user from Anthrogenica
Dirdepo
01-20-2021, 10:56 PM
Greeks are less Slavic, this is main difference.
How do you know my results? Never posted ancient G25 or Gedmatch results.
I feel like you're that Moldovlah user from Anthrogenica
That is me
Kaspias
01-21-2021, 08:50 AM
Is that normal that someone shows less(or in other cases more) east eurasian admixture than it must be? Also ther components seem to be different than expected.
Yes, it is normal. You do not necessarily inherit 50% of your parents. Some SNPs which were different in your parents might be reshaped in you, and you show some genetic shift compared to your parents. It might be said that you can inherit DNA from your grandparents that are not present in your parents' thanks to recombining.
There were situations I observed for example in Anatolian and Balkan Turk mixes, the child shows no Balkan or Anatolian influence although he supposed to be midway between two, and pretty much a copy of one of their parents.
Why is primary population Greek, but not Bulgarian?
It might be the random inheritance, or they might be having an actual Greek admixture. Besides, Thracian Greeks and Bulgarians already are identical in K12b.
https://i.ibb.co/cxFwKFP/ads-z1.png
https://i.ibb.co/fNzFYmz/pca1.png
Statistics so far.
https://i.ibb.co/23dmGgJ/Stats.png
There is an individual who gets 15.64% EE, from Dobrich, he recently matched with a Tatar very closely so I removed him from the ranking as there is suspicion if he has part Tatar or not.
Ryujin who is self-reportedly from Thrace scores only 19.38% AM & 19.44% NE.
Kaspias
01-21-2021, 08:04 PM
Ryujin who is self-reportedly from Thrace scores only 19.38% AM & 19.44% NE.
If I understood correctly Ryujin is either 4/8 or 5/8 Balkanian. The rest consist of 2/8 Eastern Anatolian and either 1/8 or 2/8 Trabzon. Plus, the Balkan part most likely consisted of mainly Pomaks -except for Stara Zagora and maybe Xanthi, at least partly-
Kaspias
01-21-2021, 08:10 PM
1/2 Didymoteicho(Dimetoka) + 1/2 İpsala, Edirne.
Y: N-M231
MT: K1a
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 30.18
2 North_European 26.09
3 Atlantic_Med 20.05
4 Gedrosia 8.59
5 Southwest_Asian 6.26
6 Siberian 3.06
7 East_Asian 3
8 Northwest_African 1.33
9 South_Asian 1.08
10 Southeast_Asian 0.35
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 10.77
2 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 11.96
3 Romanians (Behar) 12.16
4 Greek (Dodecad) 13.47
5 O_Italian (Dodecad) 14.33
6 C_Italian (Dodecad) 17.34
7 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 17.63
8 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 18.36
9 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 18.76
10 Tuscan (HGDP) 18.83
11 Sicilian (Dodecad) 18.93
12 TSI30 (Metspalu) 19.46
13 N_Italian (Dodecad) 21.56
14 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 21.82
15 Turkish (Dodecad) 22.61
16 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 23.58
17 Turks (Behar) 24.23
18 North_Italian (HGDP) 24.34
19 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 24.87
20 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 25.47
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 70.5% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 29.5% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 2.33
2 73.1% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 26.9% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 3.23
3 64.4% Turkish (Dodecad) + 35.6% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 3.29
4 53.2% Turkish (Dodecad) + 46.8% Hungarians (Behar) @ 3.36
5 57.5% Turkish (Dodecad) + 42.5% German (Dodecad) @ 3.5
6 64.6% Turkish (Dodecad) + 35.4% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 3.56
7 51.4% Turks (Behar) + 48.6% Hungarians (Behar) @ 3.65
8 55.8% Turks (Behar) + 44.2% German (Dodecad) @ 3.73
9 70.8% Romanians (Behar) + 29.2% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 4
10 63% Turks (Behar) + 37% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 4.31
11 62.8% Turks (Behar) + 37.2% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 4.36
12 74.8% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 25.2% Iranians (Behar) @ 4.4
13 73.8% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 26.2% Iranian (Dodecad) @ 4.61
14 74% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 26% Kurd (Dodecad) @ 4.72
15 73.8% Romanians (Behar) + 26.2% Kurd (Dodecad) @ 4.85
16 73.6% Romanians (Behar) + 26.4% Iranian (Dodecad) @ 4.88
17 77.5% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 22.5% Iranians (Behar) @ 4.92
18 76.5% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 23.5% Iranian (Dodecad) @ 4.95
19 68.2% Romanians (Behar) + 31.8% Turks (Behar) @ 5.01
20 74.8% Romanians (Behar) + 25.2% Iranians (Behar) @ 5.03
[1,] "75.2% Bulgarian_Thrace + 24.8% Nogai" "1.5759"
[2,] "71.1% Greek_Macedonia + 28.9% Nogai" "2.4871"
[3,] "66.5% Albanian_Kosovo + 33.5% Nogai" "2.5107"
[4,] "72.3% Bulgarian_East + 27.7% Nogai" "2.5507"
[5,] "76.2% Greek_Rumelia + 23.8% Nogai" "2.5883"
[6,] "73.4% Greek_Thrace_avg + 26.6% Nogai" "2.7182"
[7,] "83.1% Greek_Rumelia + 16.9% Turkmen_Afghanistan" "3.0642"
[8,] "82.6% Greek_Rumelia + 17.4% Uzbek" "3.1056"
[9,] "80.1% Greek_Rumelia + 19.9% Turkmen_TKM" "3.1203"
[10,] "70.3% Greek_Northeast + 29.7% Nogai" "3.1478"
[11,] "84.8% Greek_Rumelia + 15.2% Uzbeks" "3.1735"
[12,] "71.3% Pomak_Greece + 28.7% Ottoman_MA2196" "3.2163"
[13,] "71.9% Greek_Thessaloniki + 28.1% Nogai" "3.3258"
[14,] "76.6% Bulgarian_East + 23.4% Turkmen_Iran" "3.4134"
[15,] "87% Greek_Rumelia + 13% Karluk_DA222" "3.4845"
[16,] "72.5% Bulgarian_East + 27.5% Ottoman_MA2196" "3.507"
[17,] "80.5% Greek_Rumelia + 19.5% Turkmen_Iran" "3.5579"
[18,] "81.9% Greek_Rumelia + 18.1% Turkmen_Uzbekistan" "3.559"
[19,] "85.9% Greek_Rumelia + 14.1% Karluk_DA230" "3.5613"
[20,] "75.5% Greek_Macedonia + 24.5% Turkmen_Iran" "3.5869"
Ryujin
01-21-2021, 08:47 PM
Ryujin who is self-reportedly from Thrace scores only 19.38% AM & 19.44% NE.
My mother's paternal side is from Eastern Anatolia. Her maternal side is from Bulgaria and my paternal side is fully Thracian (Greece and Bulgaria). I'm mixed to some degree.
The NE is higher because of Lovech, probably. I recall that my results were similar to that of Kaspias except I score higher Caucasia because of Eastern Anatolia + -possible- Black Sea admixture.
Kaspias
01-22-2021, 08:55 AM
My mother's paternal side is from Eastern Anatolia. Her maternal side is from Bulgaria and my paternal side is fully Thracian (Greece and Bulgaria). I'm mixed to some degree.
The NE is higher because of Lovech, probably. I recall that my results were similar to that of Kaspias except I score higher Caucasia because of Eastern Anatolia + -possible- Black Sea admixture.
There is actually a significant difference. You plot between Western Anatolia and Thrace -excluding your East Eurasian score-
https://i.ibb.co/nnCvJXC/tabl.png
Distance to: Ryujin
5.55244991 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
8.77763636 Greek_Lemnos
9.64060164 Greek_Foca
10.09849494 Turk_Northwest
10.21869855 Turk_West_BlackSea
10.30851590 Italian_Apulia
10.36486855 Greek_Izmir
10.59949999 Greek_Central
10.85497121 Turk_Trakya
10.99237463 Greek_Crete
11.06171325 Greek_Peloponnese
11.16631542 Greek_Athens
11.40558635 Greek_Fournoi
11.74689746 Turk_Southwest
12.22899424 Turk_Makedonya
12.47998798 Bulgarian_Thrace
12.64300202 Turk_Central_West
12.79859367 Italian_Abruzzo
12.89285461 Greek_Thessaloniki
13.06463930 Italian_Sicily
13.08893426 Greek_Thrace
13.31890010 MD_Jewish
13.65781461 Greek_Thessaly
13.69635353 Turk_Deliorman
13.72640521 Italian_Campania
13.84091399 Albanian
13.88921164 Ashkenazi_Jews
13.89307741 Kaspias_dad
14.09371491 Greek_Kos
14.41887652 Italian_Calabria
14.67210619 Kaspias
14.69357343 Turk_South
15.03179963 Turk_Central_East
15.05837641 Greek_Rhodes
15.52952993 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
Kaspias
01-22-2021, 03:09 PM
4/8 Turk from Silistra, 2/8 Turk from Cirpan - Stara Zagora, 1/8 Tatar from Constanta, 1/8 Anatolian Yörük from Antalya.
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 North_European 25.79
2 Caucasus 22.27
3 Atlantic_Med 18.91
4 East_Asian 10.15
5 Gedrosia 9.35
6 Siberian 6.91
7 Southwest_Asian 5.16
8 South_Asian 1.05
9 Northwest_African 0.4
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 17.89
2 Romanians (Behar) 18.26
3 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 18.71
4 O_Italian (Dodecad) 20.29
5 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 20.79
6 Greek (Dodecad) 22.16
7 C_Italian (Dodecad) 23.61
8 Tuscan (HGDP) 24.15
9 TSI30 (Metspalu) 24.41
10 N_Italian (Dodecad) 24.73
11 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 25.16
12 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 25.61
13 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 25.63
14 Sicilian (Dodecad) 25.83
15 Hungarians (Behar) 26.29
16 Uzbeks (Behar) 26.56
17 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 27.05
18 North_Italian (HGDP) 27.35
19 Tajiks (Yunusbayev) 28.23
20 Turkish (Dodecad) 28.53
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 65.7% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 34.3% Hazara (HGDP) @ 2.84
2 66.7% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 33.3% Hazara (HGDP) @ 3.02
3 66.3% Romanians (Behar) + 33.7% Hazara (HGDP) @ 3.19
4 58.9% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 41.1% Uzbeks (Behar) @ 3.9
5 59.6% Romanians (Behar) + 40.4% Uzbeks (Behar) @ 3.98
6 60.1% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 39.9% Uzbeks (Behar) @ 4.03
7 65.8% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 34.2% Uygur (HGDP) @ 4.85
8 64.8% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 35.2% Uygur (HGDP) @ 4.85
9 65.4% Romanians (Behar) + 34.6% Uygur (HGDP) @ 4.94
10 76.7% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 23.3% Mongol (Rasmussen) @ 5.93
11 76.4% Romanians (Behar) + 23.6% Mongol (Rasmussen) @ 6.3
12 57.3% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 42.7% Uzbeks (Behar) @ 6.49
13 60.9% Nogais (Yunusbayev) + 39.1% French (HGDP) @ 6.49
14 75.6% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 24.4% Altai (Rasmussen) @ 6.63
15 80.8% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 19.2% Oroqen (HGDP) @ 7.07
16 75.3% Romanians (Behar) + 24.7% Altai (Rasmussen) @ 7.16
17 64.7% Nogais (Yunusbayev) + 35.3% British (Dodecad) @ 7.23
18 64.4% Nogais (Yunusbayev) + 35.6% Cornwall (1000Genomes) @ 7.26
19 79.7% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 20.3% Buryat (Rasmussen) @ 7.38
20 76.3% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 23.7% Mongol (Rasmussen) @ 7.41
Distance to: X
10.17394221 Turk_Trakya
10.55490407 Turk_Deliorman
11.60964254 Lipka_Tatar
12.28678965 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
14.15364264 Turk_Makedonya
14.36895960 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
14.99586276 MD_Gagauz
15.65778401 Bulgarian_East
15.77294202 Pomak_Greece
15.94121074 Greek_Macedonia
16.21181668 Bulgarian_Thrace
16.41397880 MD_South
16.45816818 Bulgarian_Central
16.53481479 Pomak_Bulgaria
16.82103445 Bulgarian_West
17.00854197 Romanian
17.12096960 Ottoman_MA2196
17.52430883 Greek_Thessaly
17.66240074 Macedonian
17.72754636 Greek_Thrace
17.82824164 Greek_Thessaloniki
17.86911581 Kipchak_DA179
18.02916249 Albanian_Kosovo
18.24568990 Greek_Peloponnese
18.31091205 Turk_Northwest
[1,] "64.4% Greek_Macedonia + 35.6% Karluk_DA230" "1.4148"
[2,] "64.8% Bulgarian_East + 35.2% Karluk_DA230" "1.555"
[3,] "63.7% Bulgarian_Central + 36.3% Karluk_DA230" "1.9479"
[4,] "63.6% Pomak_Bulgaria + 36.4% Karluk_DA230" "2.3526"
[5,] "63.2% Bulgarian_West + 36.8% Karluk_DA230" "2.453"
[6,] "66.2% Greek_Macedonia + 33.8% Karakalpak" "2.4571"
[7,] "62.6% Bulgarian_Central + 37.4% Uzbeks" "2.4658"
[8,] "62.1% Bulgarian_West + 37.9% Uzbeks" "2.4881"
[9,] "69.2% Pomak_Bulgaria + 30.8% Hazara" "2.5033"
[10,] "69.3% Bulgarian_Central + 30.7% Hazara" "2.5576"
[11,] "63.5% Greek_Macedonia + 36.5% Ottoman_MA2195" "2.5673"
[12,] "66.6% Bulgarian_East + 33.4% Karakalpak" "2.5848"
[13,] "63.4% Greek_Macedonia + 36.6% Uzbeks" "2.6019"
[14,] "68.9% Bulgarian_West + 31.1% Hazara" "2.6287"
[15,] "61% Macedonian + 39% Uzbeks" "2.6409"
[16,] "40.6% Greek_Northeast + 59.4% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe" "2.6526"
[17,] "40.2% Albanian_Kosovo + 59.8% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe" "2.6595"
[18,] "65.7% Bulgarian_Thrace + 34.3% Karakhanid_DA204" "2.6642"
[19,] "42.9% Bulgarian_Thrace + 57.1% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe" "2.6656"
[20,] "64.4% Greek_Thrace_avg + 35.6% Karakhanid_DA204" "2.6888"
4/8 Turk from Silistra, 2/8 Turk from Cirpan - Stara Zagora, 1/8 Tatar from Constanta, 1/8 Anatolian Yörük from Antalya.
That's a massive percentage of East Eurasian for someone who is only 1/8 Tatar. Must be visible phenotypically.
Kaspias
01-22-2021, 03:46 PM
That's a massive percentage of East Eurasian for someone who is only 1/8 Tatar. Must be visible phenotypically.
Yes. Honestly, I thought we have a new EE record, but apparently he has both Tatar and Anatolian Turkish input.
I have never seen him, so don't know phenotype-wise.
Kaspias
01-26-2021, 06:37 PM
Kazanlak, Shipka, Bulgaria.
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 30.11
2 North_European 23.61
3 Atlantic_Med 21.68
4 Gedrosia 9.44
5 Southwest_Asian 6.31
6 East_Asian 3.61
7 Siberian 2.45
8 Northwest_African 1.59
9 South_Asian 1.02
10 East_African 0.14
11 Sub_Saharan 0.04
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek (Dodecad) 12.31
2 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 12.56
3 O_Italian (Dodecad) 12.67
4 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 13.61
5 Romanians (Behar) 13.89
6 C_Italian (Dodecad) 15.31
7 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 16.08
8 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 16.64
9 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 16.8
10 Sicilian (Dodecad) 16.85
11 Tuscan (HGDP) 16.93
12 TSI30 (Metspalu) 17.63
13 N_Italian (Dodecad) 20.16
14 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 21.56
15 Turkish (Dodecad) 21.6
16 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 22.5
17 North_Italian (HGDP) 22.82
18 Turks (Behar) 23.34
19 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 23.36
20 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 25.15
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 66.2% Turkish (Dodecad) + 33.8% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 3.4
2 59.5% Turkish (Dodecad) + 40.5% German (Dodecad) @ 3.53
3 62.1% Turkish (Dodecad) + 37.9% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 3.7
4 64.7% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 35.3% Nogais (Yunusbayev) @ 3.73
5 60.8% Turkish (Dodecad) + 39.2% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) @ 3.92
6 64.1% Turkish (Dodecad) + 35.9% British_Isles (Dodecad) @ 3.98
7 66.2% Turkish (Dodecad) + 33.8% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 4
8 63.2% Turkish (Dodecad) + 36.8% CEU30 (1000Genomes) @ 4.15
9 63.2% Turkish (Dodecad) + 36.8% English (Dodecad) @ 4.19
10 57.6% Turks (Behar) + 42.4% German (Dodecad) @ 4.19
11 60.2% Turks (Behar) + 39.8% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 4.2
12 62.3% Turks (Behar) + 37.7% British_Isles (Dodecad) @ 4.28
13 62.9% Turkish (Dodecad) + 37.1% Kent (1000Genomes) @ 4.28
14 65% Turkish (Dodecad) + 35% Orkney (1000Genomes) @ 4.29
15 58.9% Turks (Behar) + 41.1% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) @ 4.41
16 65% Turkish (Dodecad) + 35% Orcadian (HGDP) @ 4.47
17 64.9% Turkish (Dodecad) + 35.1% Irish (Dodecad) @ 4.54
18 61.3% Turks (Behar) + 38.7% CEU30 (1000Genomes) @ 4.55
19 61.4% Turks (Behar) + 38.6% English (Dodecad) @ 4.59
20 64.5% Turks (Behar) + 35.5% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 4.6
[1,] "74.5% Bulgarian_Thrace + 25.5% Ottoman_MA2196" "2.1008"
[2,] "79.2% Bulgarian_Thrace + 20.8% Turkmen_Iran" "2.4668"
[3,] "73% Greek_Thrace + 27% Nogai" "2.6068"
[4,] "76.1% Greek_Thessaloniki + 23.9% Turkmen_Iran" "2.8"
[5,] "77.3% Bulgarian_Thrace + 22.7% Nogai" "2.9111"
[6,] "80.8% Bulgarian_Thrace + 19.2% Turkmen_TM" "3.013"
[7,] "81.2% Bulgarian_Thrace + 18.8% Turkmen_Uzbekistan" "3.016"
[8,] "71.3% Albanian_Kosovo + 28.7% Turkmen_Iran" "3.0661"
[9,] "84% Bulgarian_Thrace + 16% Uzbeki" "3.1574"
[10,] "79.7% Greek_Thessaloniki + 20.3% Uzbek" "3.1883"
[11,] "83.4% Bulgarian_Thrace + 16.6% Turkmen_Afghanistan" "3.2165"
[12,] "68.6% Albanian_Kosovo + 31.4% Nogai" "3.2217"
[13,] "71.6% Greek_Thessaloniki + 28.4% Ottoman_MA2196" "3.2228"
[14,] "82.8% Bulgarian_Thrace + 17.2% Uzbek" "3.2369"
[15,] "78.2% Greek_Thessaloniki + 21.8% Turkmen_Uzbekistan" "3.2676"
[16,] "81.1% Greek_Thessaloniki + 18.9% Uzbeki" "3.2889"
[17,] "77.7% Greek_Thessaloniki + 22.3% Turkmen_TM" "3.2895"
[18,] "76% Greek_Thrace + 24% Turkmen_Iran" "3.3417"
[19,] "80.5% Greek_Thessaloniki + 19.5% Turkmen_Afghanistan" "3.4034"
[20,] "72.8% Albanian_Kosovo + 27.2% Turkmen_TM" "3.4549"
Kaspias
01-26-2021, 06:40 PM
First sample from Provadia, Bulgaria.
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 North_European 27.65
2 Caucasus 27.48
3 Atlantic_Med 22.94
4 Southwest_Asian 7.81
5 Gedrosia 6.59
6 Siberian 2.76
7 East_Asian 1.51
8 South_Asian 1.33
9 Northwest_African 1.26
10 Southeast_Asian 0.66
11 Sub_Saharan 0.02
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 8.34
2 Romanians (Behar) 9.28
3 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 9.45
4 O_Italian (Dodecad) 11.9
5 Greek (Dodecad) 13.1
6 C_Italian (Dodecad) 15.84
7 Tuscan (HGDP) 16.85
8 TSI30 (Metspalu) 17.12
9 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 18.25
10 N_Italian (Dodecad) 18.37
11 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 18.65
12 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 18.75
13 Sicilian (Dodecad) 18.86
14 North_Italian (HGDP) 21.25
15 Hungarians (Behar) 22.61
16 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 24.19
17 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 25.66
18 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 26.16
19 Turkish (Dodecad) 26.2
20 German (Dodecad) 27.14
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 67.4% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 32.6% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.92
2 68.6% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 31.4% Russian (HGDP) @ 3.39
3 67.3% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 32.7% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 3.59
4 68.6% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 31.4% Russian (HGDP) @ 4.03
5 79% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 21% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 4.4
6 73% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 27% FIN30 (1000Genomes) @ 4.41
7 50.9% Turkish (Dodecad) + 49.1% German (Dodecad) @ 4.51
8 73.7% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 26.3% Finnish (Dodecad) @ 4.57
9 68.4% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 31.6% Russian_B (Behar) @ 4.58
10 61.6% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 38.4% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 4.58
11 88.3% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 11.7% Makrani (HGDP) @ 4.6
12 82% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 18% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 4.74
13 79.7% Romanians (Behar) + 20.3% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 4.74
14 88.8% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 11.2% Balochi (HGDP) @ 4.81
15 89.6% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 10.4% Brahui (HGDP) @ 4.85
16 59.2% Turkish (Dodecad) + 40.8% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 4.9
17 82.1% Romanians (Behar) + 17.9% Iranians (Behar) @ 4.94
18 62.9% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 37.1% Russian (HGDP) @ 4.95
19 57.3% German (Dodecad) + 42.7% Druze (HGDP) @ 4.95
20 75.3% Greek (Dodecad) + 24.7% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 4.98
[1,] "87.2% Bulgarian_Thrace + 12.8% Bashkir_Central" "1.2032"
[2,] "86.9% Bulgarian_Thrace + 13.1% Bashkir_North" "1.4194"
[3,] "89.2% Bulgarian_Thrace + 10.8% Bashkir_South" "1.4947"
[4,] "91.6% Bulgarian_Thrace + 8.4% Tatar_Zabolotniye" "1.5489"
[5,] "88.4% Bulgarian_Thrace + 11.6% Hazar-Bulgar_DA142" "1.5509"
[6,] "90.9% Bulgarian_Thrace + 9.1% Saka_Steppe_DA13" "1.5572"
[7,] "82.8% Bulgarian_Thrace + 17.2% Lipka_Tatar" "1.613"
[8,] "89.9% Bulgarian_Thrace + 10.1% Tatar_Siberia" "1.6163"
[9,] "89.8% Bulgarian_Thrace + 10.2% Mari" "1.6877"
[10,] "85.2% Bulgarian_East + 14.8% Ottoman_MA2196" "1.7657"
[11,] "92% Bulgarian_Thrace + 8% KAZ_Nomad_MA_DA93" "1.8042"
[12,] "88.8% Bulgarian_Thrace + 11.2% Chuvash" "1.8224"
[13,] "82% Greek_Thessaloniki + 18% Bashkir_North" "1.8283"
[14,] "86.1% Bulgarian_Thrace + 13.9% Tatar_Kazan" "1.8315"
[15,] "84% Greek_Thessaloniki + 16% Saka_Tian_Shan_DA47" "1.8369"
[16,] "82.7% Greek_Thessaloniki + 17.3% Bashkir_Central" "1.8736"
[17,] "90.8% Bulgarian_Thrace + 9.2% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA385" "1.9135"
[18,] "87.3% Greek_Thessaloniki + 12.7% Saka_Steppe_DA13" "1.9283"
[19,] "80.6% Greek_Thessaloniki + 19.4% Tatar_Kazan" "1.96"
[20,] "88.3% Bulgarian_East + 11.7% Turkmen_Uzbekistan" "1.9615"
Dr_Maul
02-03-2021, 01:48 PM
I can't verify anything about locations or whatnot for this guy but they are my match and appear Balkan (maybe already posted IDK)
Population
Gedrosia 6.35 Pct
Siberian 4.14 Pct
Northwest_African 1.1 Pct
Southeast_Asian 1.24 Pct
Atlantic_Med 21.42 Pct
North_European 26.67 Pct
South_Asian -
East_African 0.34 Pct
Southwest_Asian 7.17 Pct
East_Asian 2.1 Pct
Caucasus 28.11 Pct
Sub_Saharan 1.36 Pct
Distance to: Sercan
3.24742975 Turk_Trakya
3.78585525 Turk_Deliorman
4.45152783 Turk_Makedonya
6.55826959 Bulgarian_Thrace
6.78421698 MD_Gagauz
6.97427416 Bulgarian_East
7.45550132 Greek_Macedonia
7.57449668 Pomak_Greece
8.11941500 Greek_Thessaloniki
8.44759729 Greek_Thessaly
8.60440585 Greek_Thrace
8.89905613 Bulgarian_Central
9.17308563 Greek_Peloponnese
9.18939606 Pomak_Bulgaria
9.50718676 Albanian_Kosovo
9.53760976 MD_South
9.71272876 Bulgarian_West
10.02076344 Albanian
10.55634880 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
10.85282452 Romanian
10.94082264 Greek_Central
11.22552894 Macedonian
11.33620748 Greek_Athens
12.96893982 Greek_Foca
13.13914381 Montenegrin
Target: Sercan
Distance: 0.6810% / 0.68097435 | ADC: 0.25x RC
64.0 Turk_Makedonya
23.6 Pomak_Greece
7.7 Nogai
2.5 Dolgan
1.3 Bantu_S.W._Herero
0.9 Dai
Distance to: Sercan
2.17213134 67.80% Greek_Foca + 32.20% Tatar_Kazan
2.26468853 62.60% Greek_Izmir + 37.40% Tatar_Mishar
2.39439501 55.60% Greek_Icaria + 44.40% Tatar_Mishar
2.44366934 27.20% Chuvash + 72.80% Greek_Foca
2.51237560 70.80% Greek_Athens + 29.20% Tatar_Kazan
2.59185361 68.80% Greek_Foca + 31.20% Tatar_Mishar
2.59251886 27.40% Bashkir_North + 72.60% Greek_Athens
2.69685868 30.20% Bashkir_North + 69.80% Greek_Foca
2.76272343 24.40% Chuvash + 75.60% Greek_Athens
2.79684628 74.40% Greek_Foca + 25.60% Komi
2.85049017 26.60% Bashkir_North + 73.40% Greek_Central
2.85342173 86.60% Bulgarian_Thrace + 13.40% Tatar_Siberia
2.92008883 25.00% Besermyan_Udmurtia + 75.00% Greek_Athens
2.92826941 69.00% Greek_Izmir + 31.00% Komi
2.93353918 71.80% Greek_Central + 28.20% Tatar_Kazan
2.94122645 61.20% Greek_Fournoi + 38.80% Tatar_Mishar
2.97961550 14.20% Bashkir_South + 85.80% Bulgarian_Thrace
2.99675249 27.80% Besermyan_Udmurtia + 72.20% Greek_Foca
2.99748690 23.60% Chuvash + 76.40% Greek_Central
2.99944801 89.00% Bulgarian_Thrace + 11.00% Tatar_Zabolotniye
3.00294689 22.80% Bashkir_North + 77.20% Greek_Peloponnese
3.04134101 17.40% Bashkir_South + 82.60% Greek_Thessaloniki
3.07377669 78.00% Greek_Athens + 22.00% Mari
3.09052997 89.80% Bulgarian_Thrace + 10.20% Shor
3.09173389 60.40% Greek_Crete + 39.60% Tatar_Mishar
Kaspias
02-04-2021, 03:39 PM
Distribution of Balkan and Turk admixtures in 190 Balkan Turkish samples.
Turk admixture changes from 0% to 55%.
Balkan admixture changes from 45% to 100%.
Average Turk admixture is 23%, average Balkan admixture is 77%.
Ottoman MA2196 & Modern Steppe Tatars used while measuring the Turk admixture.
https://abload.de/img/grafikuskeu.png
Unknown European
02-04-2021, 04:38 PM
Distribution of Balkan and Turk admixtures in 190 Balkan Turkish samples.
Turk admixture changes from 0% to 55%.
Balkan admixture changes from 45% to 100%.
Average Turk admixture is 23%, average Balkan admixture is 77%.
Ottoman MA2196 & Modern Steppe Tatars used while measuring the Turk admixture.
https://abload.de/img/grafikuskeu.png
Do you have any idea if there are different regional patterns or averages between Turks from the European part of Istanbul and the Asian part of Istanbul.
Kaspias
02-04-2021, 07:31 PM
Do you have any idea if there are different regional patterns or averages between Turks from the European part of Istanbul and the Asian part of Istanbul.
I doubt there is a native profile for İstanbul. The native Greeks of the city are diverse and from all over former Byzantine borders. The same goes for today, Turks are rather from Anatolia and the Balkans and live homogenously. Therefore there is no standard "İstanbul" result.
Kaspias
02-13-2021, 08:11 PM
From Momchilgrad, Kardzhali.
He claims to be of paternal Khorasan origin from the 1600s.
y-dna: R-Z93
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 North_European 25.88
2 Caucasus 23.16
3 Atlantic_Med 17.62
4 Gedrosia 11.24
5 Southwest_Asian 7.97
6 Siberian 6.18
7 East_Asian 5.55
8 South_Asian 1.27
9 Northwest_African 0.98
10 Southeast_Asian 0.15
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 16.14
2 Romanians (Behar) 16.75
3 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 17.46
4 O_Italian (Dodecad) 18.9
5 Greek (Dodecad) 20.26
6 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 21.23
7 C_Italian (Dodecad) 22.37
8 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 23.11
9 Tuscan (HGDP) 23.45
10 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 23.59
11 TSI30 (Metspalu) 23.67
12 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 23.7
13 Sicilian (Dodecad) 24.02
14 N_Italian (Dodecad) 24.39
15 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 25.19
16 Hungarians (Behar) 25.91
17 Turkish (Dodecad) 26.29
18 Tajiks (Yunusbayev) 26.68
19 Turks (Behar) 27.19
20 North_Italian (HGDP) 27.22
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 71.4% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 28.6% Hazara (HGDP) @ 5.55
2 65.5% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 34.5% Uzbeks (Behar) @ 5.72
3 70.8% Romanians (Behar) + 29.2% Hazara (HGDP) @ 6.16
4 64.7% Romanians (Behar) + 35.3% Uzbeks (Behar) @ 6.16
5 70% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 30% Hazara (HGDP) @ 6.55
6 63.7% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 36.3% Uzbeks (Behar) @ 6.6
7 61.6% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 38.4% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 6.93
8 61.4% Romanians (Behar) + 38.6% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 7.14
9 71.4% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 28.6% Uygur (HGDP) @ 7.3
10 64.1% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 35.9% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 7.35
11 50.8% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 49.2% Hungarians (Behar) @ 7.39
12 60.7% Nogais (Yunusbayev) + 39.3% French (Dodecad) @ 7.58
13 60.4% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 39.6% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 7.58
14 63.1% Romanians (Behar) + 36.9% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 7.62
15 62.8% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 37.2% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 7.66
16 60.9% Nogais (Yunusbayev) + 39.1% French (HGDP) @ 7.77
17 70.8% Romanians (Behar) + 29.2% Uygur (HGDP) @ 7.78
18 59.6% Turks (Behar) + 40.4% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 7.79
19 59.4% Turks (Behar) + 40.6% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 7.84
20 69.9% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 30.1% Uygur (HGDP) @ 8.18
Distance to: E
7.24912409 Turk_Trakya
8.06005583 Turk_Deliorman
11.71651399 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
11.82068103 Turk_Makedonya
13.00999616 MD_Gagauz
13.55146118 Bulgarian_East
13.67202253 Pomak_Greece
13.84274900 Bulgarian_Thrace
14.00231767 Greek_Macedonia
14.79126769 Bulgarian_Central
14.80928425 Lipka_Tatar
14.88986904 MD_South
14.92832208 Pomak_Bulgaria
15.36015299 Bulgarian_West
15.56053020 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
15.57871304 Greek_Thessaly
15.69731187 Greek_Thrace
15.84368960 Greek_Thessaloniki
15.88168757 Romanian
15.89894022 Greek_Peloponnese
16.10705436 Turk_Northwest
16.44376174 Macedonian
16.58066344 Albanian_Kosovo
17.38367050 Greek_Central
17.46411464 Albanian
2.05552611 60.40% Pomak_Bulgaria + 39.60% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
2.11088692 60.40% MD_South + 39.60% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
2.22741014 60.60% Bulgarian_Central + 39.40% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
2.23119573 59.80% Bulgarian_West + 40.20% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
2.49774837 59.00% Romanian + 41.00% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
2.58699652 58.00% Macedonian + 42.00% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
2.58758526 62.60% Pomak_Greece + 37.40% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
2.81282715 56.20% Montenegrin + 43.80% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
2.97743857 63.00% Bulgarian_East + 37.00% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
3.02208001 64.80% Bulgarian_East + 35.20% Uzbek
3.11740278 66.00% Bulgarian_East + 34.00% Turkmen_Afghanistan
3.13072908 67.40% Bulgarian_East + 32.60% Uzbeki
3.16416656 62.20% Greek_Macedonia + 37.80% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
3.25636681 64.00% MD_Gagauz + 36.00% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
3.26075056 64.00% Greek_Macedonia + 36.00% Uzbek
3.30020592 55.60% Montenegrin + 44.40% Turkmen_Iran
3.32485753 65.40% Greek_Macedonia + 34.60% Turkmen_Afghanistan
3.33356389 53.20% Serb + 46.80% Turkmen_Iran
3.34185835 66.60% Greek_Macedonia + 33.40% Uzbeki
3.54800777 64.80% Pomak_Greece + 35.20% Uzbek
3.57333580 67.20% MD_Gagauz + 32.80% Turkmen_Afghanistan
3.57794093 42.20% Bashkir_Central + 57.80% Greek_Lemnos
3.57904169 58.40% Romanian + 41.60% Turkmen_Iran
3.59030698 66.00% MD_Gagauz + 34.00% Uzbek
3.59484813 68.40% MD_Gagauz + 31.60% Uzbeki
Kayra
02-13-2021, 08:24 PM
From Momchilgrad, Kardzhali.
He claims to be of paternal Khorasan origin from the 1600s.
y-dna: R-Z93
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 North_European 25.88
2 Caucasus 23.16
3 Atlantic_Med 17.62
4 Gedrosia 11.24
5 Southwest_Asian 7.97
6 Siberian 6.18
7 East_Asian 5.55
8 South_Asian 1.27
9 Northwest_African 0.98
10 Southeast_Asian 0.15
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 16.14
2 Romanians (Behar) 16.75
3 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 17.46
4 O_Italian (Dodecad) 18.9
5 Greek (Dodecad) 20.26
6 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 21.23
7 C_Italian (Dodecad) 22.37
8 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 23.11
9 Tuscan (HGDP) 23.45
10 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 23.59
11 TSI30 (Metspalu) 23.67
12 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 23.7
13 Sicilian (Dodecad) 24.02
14 N_Italian (Dodecad) 24.39
15 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 25.19
16 Hungarians (Behar) 25.91
17 Turkish (Dodecad) 26.29
18 Tajiks (Yunusbayev) 26.68
19 Turks (Behar) 27.19
20 North_Italian (HGDP) 27.22
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 71.4% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 28.6% Hazara (HGDP) @ 5.55
2 65.5% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 34.5% Uzbeks (Behar) @ 5.72
3 70.8% Romanians (Behar) + 29.2% Hazara (HGDP) @ 6.16
4 64.7% Romanians (Behar) + 35.3% Uzbeks (Behar) @ 6.16
5 70% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 30% Hazara (HGDP) @ 6.55
6 63.7% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 36.3% Uzbeks (Behar) @ 6.6
7 61.6% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 38.4% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 6.93
8 61.4% Romanians (Behar) + 38.6% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 7.14
9 71.4% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 28.6% Uygur (HGDP) @ 7.3
10 64.1% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 35.9% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 7.35
11 50.8% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 49.2% Hungarians (Behar) @ 7.39
12 60.7% Nogais (Yunusbayev) + 39.3% French (Dodecad) @ 7.58
13 60.4% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 39.6% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 7.58
14 63.1% Romanians (Behar) + 36.9% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 7.62
15 62.8% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 37.2% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 7.66
16 60.9% Nogais (Yunusbayev) + 39.1% French (HGDP) @ 7.77
17 70.8% Romanians (Behar) + 29.2% Uygur (HGDP) @ 7.78
18 59.6% Turks (Behar) + 40.4% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 7.79
19 59.4% Turks (Behar) + 40.6% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 7.84
20 69.9% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 30.1% Uygur (HGDP) @ 8.18
Distance to: E
7.24912409 Turk_Trakya
8.06005583 Turk_Deliorman
11.71651399 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
11.82068103 Turk_Makedonya
13.00999616 MD_Gagauz
13.55146118 Bulgarian_East
13.67202253 Pomak_Greece
13.84274900 Bulgarian_Thrace
14.00231767 Greek_Macedonia
14.79126769 Bulgarian_Central
14.80928425 Lipka_Tatar
14.88986904 MD_South
14.92832208 Pomak_Bulgaria
15.36015299 Bulgarian_West
15.56053020 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
15.57871304 Greek_Thessaly
15.69731187 Greek_Thrace
15.84368960 Greek_Thessaloniki
15.88168757 Romanian
15.89894022 Greek_Peloponnese
16.10705436 Turk_Northwest
16.44376174 Macedonian
16.58066344 Albanian_Kosovo
17.38367050 Greek_Central
17.46411464 Albanian
2.05552611 60.40% Pomak_Bulgaria + 39.60% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
2.11088692 60.40% MD_South + 39.60% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
2.22741014 60.60% Bulgarian_Central + 39.40% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
2.23119573 59.80% Bulgarian_West + 40.20% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
2.49774837 59.00% Romanian + 41.00% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
2.58699652 58.00% Macedonian + 42.00% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
2.58758526 62.60% Pomak_Greece + 37.40% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
2.81282715 56.20% Montenegrin + 43.80% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
2.97743857 63.00% Bulgarian_East + 37.00% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
3.02208001 64.80% Bulgarian_East + 35.20% Uzbek
3.11740278 66.00% Bulgarian_East + 34.00% Turkmen_Afghanistan
3.13072908 67.40% Bulgarian_East + 32.60% Uzbeki
3.16416656 62.20% Greek_Macedonia + 37.80% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
3.25636681 64.00% MD_Gagauz + 36.00% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
3.26075056 64.00% Greek_Macedonia + 36.00% Uzbek
3.30020592 55.60% Montenegrin + 44.40% Turkmen_Iran
3.32485753 65.40% Greek_Macedonia + 34.60% Turkmen_Afghanistan
3.33356389 53.20% Serb + 46.80% Turkmen_Iran
3.34185835 66.60% Greek_Macedonia + 33.40% Uzbeki
3.54800777 64.80% Pomak_Greece + 35.20% Uzbek
3.57333580 67.20% MD_Gagauz + 32.80% Turkmen_Afghanistan
3.57794093 42.20% Bashkir_Central + 57.80% Greek_Lemnos
3.57904169 58.40% Romanian + 41.60% Turkmen_Iran
3.59030698 66.00% MD_Gagauz + 34.00% Uzbek
3.59484813 68.40% MD_Gagauz + 31.60% Uzbeki
Which village is he from? I think i can assume my father's results would be similar to this.
Kaspias
02-13-2021, 08:31 PM
Which village is he from? I think i can assume my father's results would be similar to this.
Edirhanlı. Sindelli'ye yarım saat.
Your father could have less North European and more Atlantic Med, but yes my expectation would be pretty much similar.
CommonSense
03-12-2021, 02:55 PM
I don't know where to post this or if you already have this kit.
This woman has ancestry from Thessaloniki (paternal) and Kavala (maternal):
Kit JT1903011
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 28.6
2 North_European 26.02
3 Atlantic_Med 21.41
4 Gedrosia 9.98
5 Southwest_Asian 6.75
6 East_Asian 3.94
7 Siberian 1.99
8 Northwest_African 1.01
9 East_African 0.26
10 Southeast_Asian 0.04
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 11.22
2 Romanians (Behar) 12.43
3 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 12.52
4 O_Italian (Dodecad) 13.33
5 Greek (Dodecad) 13.95
6 C_Italian (Dodecad) 16.79
7 Tuscan (HGDP) 18.02
8 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 18.35
9 TSI30 (Metspalu) 18.5
10 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 18.74
11 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 18.96
12 Sicilian (Dodecad) 18.98
13 N_Italian (Dodecad) 20.21
14 North_Italian (HGDP) 23.06
15 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 23.17
16 Turkish (Dodecad) 23.65
17 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 23.77
18 Hungarians (Behar) 25.05
19 Turks (Behar) 25.24
20 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 25.43
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 62.8% Turkish (Dodecad) + 37.2% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 2.88
2 62.6% Turkish (Dodecad) + 37.4% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 3.13
3 55.4% Turkish (Dodecad) + 44.6% German (Dodecad) @ 3.15
4 53.8% Turks (Behar) + 46.2% German (Dodecad) @ 3.26
5 61.3% Turks (Behar) + 38.7% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 3.62
6 70.1% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 29.9% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 3.97
7 61.2% Turks (Behar) + 38.8% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 4.12
8 56.9% Turks (Behar) + 43.1% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 4.14
9 58.5% Turkish (Dodecad) + 41.5% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 4.18
10 72.9% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 27.1% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 4.28
11 55.4% Turks (Behar) + 44.6% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) @ 4.42
12 57.1% Turkish (Dodecad) + 42.9% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) @ 4.43
13 59.2% Turks (Behar) + 40.8% British_Isles (Dodecad) @ 4.6
14 70.7% Romanians (Behar) + 29.3% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 4.63
15 51.5% Turkish (Dodecad) + 48.5% Hungarians (Behar) @ 4.73
16 60.9% Turkish (Dodecad) + 39.1% British_Isles (Dodecad) @ 4.81
17 58.1% Turks (Behar) + 41.9% CEU30 (1000Genomes) @ 4.82
18 58.2% Turks (Behar) + 41.8% English (Dodecad) @ 4.87
19 61.7% Turkish (Dodecad) + 38.3% Orkney (1000Genomes) @ 4.88
20 50.2% Hungarians (Behar) + 49.8% Turks (Behar) @ 4.9
Kaspias
03-12-2021, 03:27 PM
I don't know where to post this or if you already have this kit.
This woman has ancestry from Thessaloniki (paternal) and Kavala (maternal):
Kit JT1903011
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 28.6
2 North_European 26.02
3 Atlantic_Med 21.41
4 Gedrosia 9.98
5 Southwest_Asian 6.75
6 East_Asian 3.94
7 Siberian 1.99
8 Northwest_African 1.01
9 East_African 0.26
10 Southeast_Asian 0.04
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 11.22
2 Romanians (Behar) 12.43
3 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 12.52
4 O_Italian (Dodecad) 13.33
5 Greek (Dodecad) 13.95
6 C_Italian (Dodecad) 16.79
7 Tuscan (HGDP) 18.02
8 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 18.35
9 TSI30 (Metspalu) 18.5
10 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 18.74
11 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 18.96
12 Sicilian (Dodecad) 18.98
13 N_Italian (Dodecad) 20.21
14 North_Italian (HGDP) 23.06
15 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 23.17
16 Turkish (Dodecad) 23.65
17 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 23.77
18 Hungarians (Behar) 25.05
19 Turks (Behar) 25.24
20 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 25.43
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 62.8% Turkish (Dodecad) + 37.2% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 2.88
2 62.6% Turkish (Dodecad) + 37.4% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 3.13
3 55.4% Turkish (Dodecad) + 44.6% German (Dodecad) @ 3.15
4 53.8% Turks (Behar) + 46.2% German (Dodecad) @ 3.26
5 61.3% Turks (Behar) + 38.7% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 3.62
6 70.1% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 29.9% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 3.97
7 61.2% Turks (Behar) + 38.8% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 4.12
8 56.9% Turks (Behar) + 43.1% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 4.14
9 58.5% Turkish (Dodecad) + 41.5% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 4.18
10 72.9% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 27.1% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 4.28
11 55.4% Turks (Behar) + 44.6% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) @ 4.42
12 57.1% Turkish (Dodecad) + 42.9% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) @ 4.43
13 59.2% Turks (Behar) + 40.8% British_Isles (Dodecad) @ 4.6
14 70.7% Romanians (Behar) + 29.3% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 4.63
15 51.5% Turkish (Dodecad) + 48.5% Hungarians (Behar) @ 4.73
16 60.9% Turkish (Dodecad) + 39.1% British_Isles (Dodecad) @ 4.81
17 58.1% Turks (Behar) + 41.9% CEU30 (1000Genomes) @ 4.82
18 58.2% Turks (Behar) + 41.8% English (Dodecad) @ 4.87
19 61.7% Turkish (Dodecad) + 38.3% Orkney (1000Genomes) @ 4.88
20 50.2% Hungarians (Behar) + 49.8% Turks (Behar) @ 4.9
That's a rare find, she does not match with any other Balkan Turk. I did not have that kit. Thanks for posting.
Distance to: X
2.43764603 76.40% Greek_Macedonia + 23.60% Turkmen_Iran
2.62848011 77.20% Bulgarian_East + 22.80% Turkmen_Iran
2.87820798 77.80% Greek_Macedonia + 22.20% Turkmen_TM
2.89215983 73.40% Bulgarian_East + 26.60% Ottoman_MA2196
2.90743621 72.60% Greek_Macedonia + 27.40% Ottoman_MA2196
2.96061134 82.80% Bulgarian_Thrace + 17.20% Uzbek
2.96812599 78.60% Moldavian_Gagauz + 21.40% Turkmen_Iran
2.98803269 85.60% Bulgarian_Thrace + 14.40% Karluk_DA230
3.00865761 84.00% Bulgarian_Thrace + 16.00% Uzbeki
3.01694792 78.80% Bulgarian_East + 21.20% Turkmen_TM
3.16696592 83.60% Bulgarian_Thrace + 16.40% Turkmen_Afghanistan
3.29352615 79.60% Bulgarian_Thrace + 20.40% Kipchak_DA179
3.33243395 80.00% Moldavian_Gagauz + 20.00% Turkmen_TM
3.35353672 81.60% Bulgarian_Thrace + 18.40% Tajik_Mountain
3.35544986 75.00% Moldavian_Gagauz + 25.00% Ottoman_MA2196
3.36397655 87.20% Bulgarian_Thrace + 12.80% Uyghur
3.45744914 88.00% Bulgarian_Thrace + 12.00% Hazara
3.48160010 87.40% Bulgarian_Thrace + 12.60% Karluk_DA222
3.48282200 82.20% Bulgarian_Thrace + 17.80% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
3.49888237 73.00% Bulgarian_Central + 27.00% Turkmen_Iran
3.55788951 81.00% Bulgarian_Thrace + 19.00% Turkmen_Iran
3.60698826 78.60% Greek_Macedonia + 21.40% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
3.62580545 79.60% Bulgarian_East + 20.40% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
3.62874543 87.00% Bulgarian_Thrace + 13.00% Karakhanid_DA204
3.64863376 79.00% Bulgarian_Thrace + 21.00% Nogai
Kaspias
03-24-2021, 08:47 PM
It has been a while.
First sample from Veles(Köprülü, Ohçabolu), Northern Macedonia
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 30.84
2 North_European 28.64
3 Atlantic_Med 20.89
4 Southwest_Asian 7.95
5 Gedrosia 6.35
6 Siberian 2.07
7 East_Asian 1.31
8 South_Asian 0.88
9 Northwest_African 0.77
10 Southeast_Asian 0.3
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 7.34
2 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 8.66
3 Romanians (Behar) 9
4 Greek (Dodecad) 12.47
5 O_Italian (Dodecad) 13.82
6 C_Italian (Dodecad) 17.15
7 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 17.71
8 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 18.29
9 Tuscan (HGDP) 18.52
10 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 19.05
11 TSI30 (Metspalu) 19.09
12 Sicilian (Dodecad) 19.18
13 N_Italian (Dodecad) 21.02
14 Hungarians (Behar) 23.65
15 North_Italian (HGDP) 23.82
16 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 24.25
17 Turkish (Dodecad) 24.45
18 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 24.76
19 Turks (Behar) 26.24
20 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 26.28
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 80.9% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 19.1% Iranians (Behar) @ 2.1
2 80.3% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 19.7% Kurd (Dodecad) @ 2.34
3 80.3% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 19.7% Iranian (Dodecad) @ 2.39
4 75.1% Romanians (Behar) + 24.9% Turks (Behar) @ 2.45
5 79.2% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 20.8% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 2.54
6 79.2% Romanians (Behar) + 20.8% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) @ 2.66
7 83.2% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 16.8% Kurd (Dodecad) @ 2.68
8 83.2% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 16.8% Iranian (Dodecad) @ 2.7
9 83.9% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 16.1% Iranians (Behar) @ 2.71
10 80.3% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 19.7% Kurds (Yunusbayev) @ 2.75
11 50.8% Hungarians (Behar) + 49.2% Turkish (Dodecad) @ 2.79
12 74% Romanians (Behar) + 26% Turkish (Dodecad) @ 2.8
13 79.4% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 20.6% Turks (Behar) @ 2.87
14 82.3% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 17.7% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 2.87
15 81.7% Romanians (Behar) + 18.3% Iranian_Jews (Behar) @ 2.88
16 82.9% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 17.1% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) @ 2.89
17 79.9% Romanians (Behar) + 20.1% Kurd (Dodecad) @ 2.9
18 83.3% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 16.7% Kurds (Yunusbayev) @ 2.96
19 80% Romanians (Behar) + 20% Iranian (Dodecad) @ 3.1
20 79.9% Romanians (Behar) + 20.1% Kurds (Yunusbayev) @ 3.12
Distance to: Baha
4.63002160 Turk_Makedonya
5.06966468 Turk_Deliorman
5.40638511 Turk_Trakya
5.62255280 Bulgarian_Thrace
5.85802014 Pomak_Greece
6.03416109 Bulgarian_East
6.33561362 Moldavian_Gagauz
6.64079062 Greek_Macedonia
7.29148133 Greek_Thessaloniki
8.09656717 Bulgarian_Central
8.16998164 Pomak_Bulgaria
8.28458207 Greek_Thessaly
8.33539441 Greek_Thrace
8.61323981 Greek_Peloponnese
9.10255459 Bulgarian_West
9.25748346 Moldavian_South
9.34351112 Albanian_Kosovo
9.73451077 Albanian
10.59479117 Romanian
10.63358829 Greek_Central
10.77041782 Macedonian
10.95465654 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
10.96722390 Greek_Athens
12.32508823 Greek_Foca
12.87346496 Montenegrin
Distance to: Baha
2.43261486 46.60% Greek_Cappadocia + 53.40% Ukrainian_Ivano-Frankivsk
2.45657576 38.40% Greek_Cappadocia + 61.60% Moldavian_North
2.50712157 68.40% Greek_Izmir + 31.60% Mordovian
2.53429180 28.20% Greek_Pontus + 71.80% Moldavian_Center
2.54156575 18.00% Abazin + 82.00% Bulgarian_East
2.58821694 82.60% Bulgarian_East + 17.40% Circassian
2.59223610 40.00% Estonian + 60.00% Greek_Cappadocia
2.62068801 17.40% Balkar + 82.60% Bulgarian_East
2.63104425 83.20% Bulgarian_East + 16.80% Karachay
2.67326696 23.40% Abazin + 76.60% Bulgarian_Central
2.67339823 80.80% Bulgarian_East + 19.20% Kabardin
2.69353260 23.60% Abazin + 76.40% Pomak_Bulgaria
2.71062738 72.60% Greek_Izmir + 27.40% Russian_Arkhangelsk
2.71144263 53.00% Greek_Cappadocia + 47.00% Ukrainian
2.72687715 70.00% Greek_Izmir + 30.00% Russian_Ural
2.73626146 33.00% Greek_Cappadocia + 67.00% Moldavian_Center
2.74211852 77.20% Bulgarian_Central + 22.80% Circassian
2.75732191 84.40% Bulgarian_East + 15.60% Ossetian
2.78581751 23.00% Circassian + 77.00% Pomak_Bulgaria
2.78605416 33.20% Greek_Pontus + 66.80% Moldavian_North
2.80326857 70.60% Greek_Izmir + 29.40% Russian_Kostroma
2.83122787 16.60% Georgian + 83.40% Pomak_Bulgaria
2.83569787 16.60% Hemshin + 83.40% Pomak_Bulgaria
2.84238703 16.00% Adyghe + 84.00% Bulgarian_East
2.84382681 77.80% Bulgarian_Central + 22.20% Karachay
Baha, lol :lol:
By the way, that SOB was banned from Anthrogenica. I wish he would come back here :D
Kaspias
05-06-2021, 08:55 PM
1/2 From Chalkidiki and 1/2 from Larissa. Family stories claim paternal(Chalkidiki) Karamanoğlu origin.
https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-M458/
https://i.ibb.co/hW3rmTG/halkidiki.png
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 30.54
2 North_European 23.27
3 Atlantic_Med 19.76
4 Gedrosia 9.52
5 Southwest_Asian 8.21
6 Siberian 3.82
7 Northwest_African 2.04
8 East_Asian 1.42
9 Southeast_Asian 1.22
10 South_Asian 0.19
11 Sub_Saharan 0.01
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek (Dodecad) 12.62
2 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 13.41
3 O_Italian (Dodecad) 14.2
4 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 14.59
5 Romanians (Behar) 14.93
6 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 15.59
7 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 16.29
8 C_Italian (Dodecad) 16.46
9 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 16.69
10 Sicilian (Dodecad) 16.93
11 Tuscan (HGDP) 18.59
12 TSI30 (Metspalu) 19.24
13 Turkish (Dodecad) 20.43
14 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 20.85
15 Turks (Behar) 21.98
16 N_Italian (Dodecad) 22.05
17 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 22.08
18 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 22.71
19 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 24.01
20 North_Italian (HGDP) 24.67
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 68.2% Turkish (Dodecad) + 31.8% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 3.91
2 68.1% Turkish (Dodecad) + 31.9% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 4.02
3 62% Turkish (Dodecad) + 38% German (Dodecad) @ 4.2
4 60.2% Turks (Behar) + 39.8% German (Dodecad) @ 4.2
5 66.6% Turks (Behar) + 33.4% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 4.36
6 66.5% Turks (Behar) + 33.5% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 4.71
7 62.9% Turks (Behar) + 37.1% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 4.86
8 58.5% Turkish (Dodecad) + 41.5% Hungarians (Behar) @ 4.91
9 68.9% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 31.1% Iranians (Behar) @ 4.92
10 64.7% Turkish (Dodecad) + 35.3% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 4.96
11 56.6% Turks (Behar) + 43.4% Hungarians (Behar) @ 5
12 61.6% Turks (Behar) + 38.4% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) @ 5.11
13 64.9% Turks (Behar) + 35.1% British_Isles (Dodecad) @ 5.12
14 67.8% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 32.2% Kurd (Dodecad) @ 5.15
15 63.5% Turkish (Dodecad) + 36.5% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) @ 5.17
16 65.7% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 34.3% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 5.18
17 67.8% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 32.2% Iranian (Dodecad) @ 5.29
18 64% Turks (Behar) + 36% CEU30 (1000Genomes) @ 5.34
19 66.7% Turkish (Dodecad) + 33.3% British_Isles (Dodecad) @ 5.36
20 64.1% Turks (Behar) + 35.9% English (Dodecad) @ 5.37
Distance to: X
4.57339043 Turk_Trakya
5.87989796 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
7.06059488 Turk_Makedonya
7.58747652 Turk_Deliorman
8.15347779 Bulgarian_Thrace
8.64777428 Greek_Peloponnese
9.38916397 Greek_Thessaloniki
9.60683611 Greek_Central
9.71578612 Greek_Thrace
9.96893174 Greek_Thessaly
10.17569162 Greek_Athens
10.24580890 Greek_Lemnos
10.37590960 Greek_Foca
10.59482421 Moldovan_Gagauz
10.73877088 Italian_Apulia
10.75166034 Bulgarian_East
11.10257628 Albanian
11.21328676 Greek_Macedonia
11.66778899 Pomak_Greece
12.21581352 Albanian_Kosovo
12.43740327 Macedonian_South
12.60666887 Turk_Northwest
12.87618732 Macedonian_Vardar
13.09495704 Macedonian_Northeast&Skopje
13.14161710 Italian_Abruzzo
Distance to: X
1.93335188 56.80% Moldovan_South + 43.20% Turk_South
2.08850965 64.40% Moldovan_Gagauz + 35.60% Turk_South
2.10763739 59.20% Moldovan_Gagauz + 40.80% Turk_Southwest
2.17794556 58.80% Bulgarian_East + 41.20% Turk_Southwest
2.18539596 51.20% Moldovan_South + 48.80% Turk_Southwest
2.23544755 55.00% Romanian + 45.00% Turk_South
2.29789527 51.60% Montenegrin + 48.40% Turk_South
2.31361389 56.80% Pomak_Greece + 43.20% Turk_Southwest
2.34636310 64.20% Bulgarian_East + 35.80% Turk_South
2.41143030 52.80% Pomak_Bulgaria + 47.20% Turk_Southwest
2.48356414 57.80% Greek_Macedonia + 42.20% Turk_Southwest
2.50387403 49.60% Romanian + 50.40% Turk_Southwest
2.56960703 46.00% Montenegrin + 54.00% Turk_Southwest
2.57843529 58.40% Pomak_Bulgaria + 41.60% Turk_South
2.60937169 63.20% Greek_Macedonia + 36.80% Turk_South
2.68632475 47.60% Serb + 52.40% Turk_South
2.76943118 62.40% Pomak_Greece + 37.60% Turk_South
2.87577992 42.00% Serb + 58.00% Turk_Southwest
2.93120524 58.40% Macedonian_Polog + 41.60% Turk_South
3.01797128 54.00% Macedonian_Northeast&Skopje + 46.00% Turk_Southwest
3.03834349 52.80% Macedonian_Polog + 47.20% Turk_Southwest
3.09628488 59.40% Macedonian_Northeast&Skopje + 40.60% Turk_South
3.19638535 76.60% Bulgarian_Thrace + 23.40% Turkmen_Iran
3.28636085 77.80% Bulgarian_Thrace + 22.20% Turkmen_TM
3.34214689 73.80% Greek_Thessaloniki + 26.20% Turkmen_Iran
This might be a Balkan Turk. A super Turkish name but virtually no Turkish matches
Gedrosia 7.8 Pct
Siberian 1.08 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 26.31 Pct
North_European 30.12 Pct
South_Asian -
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 7.03 Pct
East_Asian 1.47 Pct
Caucasus 25.97 Pct
Sub_Saharan 0.21 Pct
Distance to: gökce
2.82138264 Greek_Macedonia
2.89452932 Moldovan_Gagauz
3.16075940 Bulgarian_East
3.80228878 Macedonian_Polog
3.90769753 Bulgarian_Central
4.36064215 Macedonian_Vardar
4.43227932 Macedonian_Northeast&Skopje
4.48994432 Bulgarian_West
4.53029800 Macedonian_East
4.61232046 Pomak_Bulgaria
4.87016427 Moldovan_South
4.89041920 Macedonian_South
5.30293315 Romanian
5.32905245 Turk_Makedonya
5.48927135 Pomak_Greece
5.63139414 Turk_Deliorman
6.11857009 Albanian_Kosovo
6.20923506 Bulgarian_Thrace
7.37312688 Greek_Thessaly
7.38665012 Montenegrin
Distance to: gökce
1.48821515 88.00% Macedonian_East + 12.00% Yaghnobi_Tajikistan
1.54141609 88.60% Macedonian_East + 11.40% Tajik_Mountain
1.59915551 89.00% Macedonian_East + 11.00% Pamiri_Rushan
1.60513527 89.20% Macedonian_East + 10.80% Pamiri_Shughnan
1.62126966 89.00% Macedonian_East + 11.00% Tajik_Lowland
1.69456056 90.80% Macedonian_Polog + 9.20% Tajik_Mountain
1.70026492 14.40% Icelandic + 85.60% Turk_Makedonya
1.70877202 15.60% German_Northwest + 84.40% Turk_Makedonya
1.72975911 14.20% Danish + 85.80% Turk_Makedonya
1.77096458 16.80% Dutch + 83.20% Turk_Makedonya
1.79570399 13.80% Swedish + 86.20% Turk_Makedonya
1.80273152 29.20% Greek_Cappadocia + 70.80% Hungarian_Transylvania+Székely
1.82641917 15.00% Scottish + 85.00% Turk_Makedonya
1.82950562 90.80% Macedonian_Polog + 9.20% Turkmen_Iran
1.83349799 14.60% Irish + 85.40% Turk_Makedonya
1.83874319 15.20% English_North + 84.80% Turk_Makedonya
1.85562756 91.20% Macedonian_Polog + 8.80% Tajik_Lowland
1.86267678 16.00% German + 84.00% Turk_Makedonya
1.86956098 90.40% Macedonian_East + 9.60% Pamiri_Ishkashim
1.87290093 91.20% Macedonian_Polog + 8.80% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
Target: gökce
Distance: 1.5032% / 1.50320544 | ADC: 0.5x RC
48.9 Greek_Macedonia
35.2 Turk_Deliorman
10.4 Italian_Friuli_VG
5.5 French_Northeast
Kaspias
05-13-2021, 06:23 PM
This might be a Balkan Turk. A super Turkish name but virtually no Turkish matches
Gedrosia 7.8 Pct
Siberian 1.08 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 26.31 Pct
North_European 30.12 Pct
South_Asian -
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 7.03 Pct
East_Asian 1.47 Pct
Caucasus 25.97 Pct
Sub_Saharan 0.21 Pct
Distance to: gökce
2.82138264 Greek_Macedonia
2.89452932 Moldovan_Gagauz
3.16075940 Bulgarian_East
3.80228878 Macedonian_Polog
3.90769753 Bulgarian_Central
4.36064215 Macedonian_Vardar
4.43227932 Macedonian_Northeast&Skopje
4.48994432 Bulgarian_West
4.53029800 Macedonian_East
4.61232046 Pomak_Bulgaria
4.87016427 Moldovan_South
4.89041920 Macedonian_South
5.30293315 Romanian
5.32905245 Turk_Makedonya
5.48927135 Pomak_Greece
5.63139414 Turk_Deliorman
6.11857009 Albanian_Kosovo
6.20923506 Bulgarian_Thrace
7.37312688 Greek_Thessaly
7.38665012 Montenegrin
Distance to: gökce
1.48821515 88.00% Macedonian_East + 12.00% Yaghnobi_Tajikistan
1.54141609 88.60% Macedonian_East + 11.40% Tajik_Mountain
1.59915551 89.00% Macedonian_East + 11.00% Pamiri_Rushan
1.60513527 89.20% Macedonian_East + 10.80% Pamiri_Shughnan
1.62126966 89.00% Macedonian_East + 11.00% Tajik_Lowland
1.69456056 90.80% Macedonian_Polog + 9.20% Tajik_Mountain
1.70026492 14.40% Icelandic + 85.60% Turk_Makedonya
1.70877202 15.60% German_Northwest + 84.40% Turk_Makedonya
1.72975911 14.20% Danish + 85.80% Turk_Makedonya
1.77096458 16.80% Dutch + 83.20% Turk_Makedonya
1.79570399 13.80% Swedish + 86.20% Turk_Makedonya
1.80273152 29.20% Greek_Cappadocia + 70.80% Hungarian_Transylvania+Székely
1.82641917 15.00% Scottish + 85.00% Turk_Makedonya
1.82950562 90.80% Macedonian_Polog + 9.20% Turkmen_Iran
1.83349799 14.60% Irish + 85.40% Turk_Makedonya
1.83874319 15.20% English_North + 84.80% Turk_Makedonya
1.85562756 91.20% Macedonian_Polog + 8.80% Tajik_Lowland
1.86267678 16.00% German + 84.00% Turk_Makedonya
1.86956098 90.40% Macedonian_East + 9.60% Pamiri_Ishkashim
1.87290093 91.20% Macedonian_Polog + 8.80% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
Target: gökce
Distance: 1.5032% / 1.50320544 | ADC: 0.5x RC
48.9 Greek_Macedonia
35.2 Turk_Deliorman
10.4 Italian_Friuli_VG
5.5 French_Northeast
Yes, it seems so. Can you share the kit so I can contact her for further information?
Yes, it seems so. Can you share the kit so I can contact her for further information?
Sure. I'm sending the kit number.
Kaspias
05-13-2021, 07:48 PM
I had been busy nowadays but was able to collect few more kits. These are brand-new averages that I believe covers all major regions settled by Turks. I did not create averages for the regions that have only 1-2 samples(Northern parts of North Macedonia, Kosovo, Western Bulgaria.) Current averages in Vahaduo decent enough for daily use. I'm posting these just in case someone interested.
There is no clear regional distinction between these samples. Averages are created with the automated clustering and they are named according to where most of the samples belong to this cluster comes from. Therefore, the actual identifier should be "Trakya, Deliorman, and Makedonya" tags rather than detailed(2nd) labels. Individuals who are like Trakya_Solkol and Trakya_Rodop can pop in all over Western Thrace and completely randomly, for example. However, diversification of components by using the clustering method is enriching results. In some cases, we were seeing that people who are from Northern Thrace(Arda) were receiving Deliorman before Thrace, so the primary aim here is to prevent such false alarms.
https://i.ibb.co/61fhwnr/grafik.png
Turk = MA2196, Tatar_Crimean_Steppe
https://i.ibb.co/M2CTDB2/t-rki.png
Trakya_Rodop,8.91,4.90,1.15,0.25,19.60,24.15,1.19, 0.16,8.05,3.76,27.81,0.08
Trakya_Arda,8.01,2.77,1.21,0.81,22.07,27.3,0.64,0. 06,7.69,1.7,27.58,0.09
Trakya_Solkol,7.07,2.58,1.26,0.32,24.55,29.24,0.56 ,0.04,7.59,0.66,26.19,0
Trakya_Dogu,9.17,3.36,0.69,0.22,23.09,24.05,0.49,0 .00,7.31,2.76,28.88,0.00
Deliorman_Dobruca,7.69,2.6,0.4,0.61,22.92,30.58,1. 1,0.1,6.48,2.39,25.12,0.01
Deliorman_Tozluk,8.18,3.21,0.74,0.71,21.03,27.72,0 .95,0.06,7.3,2.59,27.47,0.07
Makedonya_Merkez,6.35,1.79,1.17,0.21,25.37,29.71,0 .5,0.23,7.55,0.68,26.28,0.14
Makedonya_Dogu,7.53,2,0.94,0.3,21.48,27.24,0.9,0.0 7,7.28,2.08,30.14,0.03
Makedonya_Bati,6.45,1.27,0.99,0.54,26.32,23.76,0.1 6,0.18,8.77,0.54,30.95,0.05
Turk_Balkan,8.02,3.14,0.87,0.54,21.73,27.22,0.85,0 .08,7.51,2.47,27.51,0.06
Kaspias
05-17-2021, 10:50 AM
From Kardzhali.
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 North_European 25.67
2 Caucasus 23.15
3 Atlantic_Med 19.59
4 Gedrosia 8.98
5 Southwest_Asian 6.8
6 Siberian 4.74
7 South_Asian 3.67
8 East_Asian 3.56
9 Northwest_African 2.78
10 Southeast_Asian 1.06
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 14.07
2 Romanians (Behar) 14.49
3 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 15.3
4 O_Italian (Dodecad) 16.37
5 Greek (Dodecad) 18.33
6 C_Italian (Dodecad) 19.94
7 Tuscan (HGDP) 21.01
8 TSI30 (Metspalu) 21.14
9 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 21.39
10 N_Italian (Dodecad) 21.76
11 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 21.83
12 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 21.97
13 Sicilian (Dodecad) 22.11
14 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 23.57
15 Hungarians (Behar) 24.52
16 North_Italian (HGDP) 24.62
17 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 26.16
18 Turkish (Dodecad) 26.86
19 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 26.9
20 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 27.41
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 76.2% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 23.8% Hazara (HGDP) @ 6.24
2 75.7% Romanians (Behar) + 24.3% Hazara (HGDP) @ 6.45
3 71.7% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 28.3% Uzbeks (Behar) @ 6.74
4 67.5% Romanians (Behar) + 32.5% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 6.85
5 71% Romanians (Behar) + 29% Uzbeks (Behar) @ 6.85
6 67.3% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 32.7% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 6.92
7 74.7% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 25.3% Hazara (HGDP) @ 6.99
8 62.3% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 37.7% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 7.21
9 77.2% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 22.8% Burusho (HGDP) @ 7.28
10 58% Turks (Behar) + 42% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 7.32
11 70% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 30% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 7.37
12 69.2% Romanians (Behar) + 30.8% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 7.39
13 70% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 30% Uzbeks (Behar) @ 7.41
14 66.4% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 33.6% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 7.43
15 62.2% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 37.8% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 7.48
16 68.9% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 31.1% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 7.57
17 57.8% Turks (Behar) + 42.2% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 7.63
18 76.5% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 23.5% Uygur (HGDP) @ 7.63
19 59.2% Turkish (Dodecad) + 40.8% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 7.67
20 79.4% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 20.6% Burusho (HGDP) @ 7.67
Distance to: X
5.92912304 Trakya_Rodop
6.38758953 Deliorman_Tozluk
7.01610291 Trakya_Arda
7.69901292 Deliorman_Dobruca
8.10765071 Trakya_Dogu
8.74457546 Trakya_Solkol
8.86396638 Makedonya_Dogu
9.87112962 Makedonya_Merkez
10.42118036 Moldovan_Gagauz
11.25110217 Bulgarian_East
11.44201468 Bulgarian_Thrace
11.69390012 Greek_Macedonia
11.71622806 Pomak_Greece
12.37147930 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
12.48275611 Bulgarian_Central
12.53210278 Makedonya_Bati
12.56356637 Moldovan_South
12.77052857 Pomak_Bulgaria
13.02071043 Greek_Thessaly
13.03259376 Bulgarian_West
13.17135149 Macedonian_Vardar
13.24778849 Macedonian_South
13.29441612 Macedonian_Polog
13.31458599 Greek_Thrace
13.39513718 Greek_Thessaloniki
Distance to: X
3.30228275 75.60% Greek_Thessaloniki + 24.40% Xiongnu-Turk_DA38
3.32708054 67.60% Moldovan_South + 32.40% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
3.42933778 78.60% Bulgarian_Thrace + 21.40% Xiongnu-Turk_DA38
3.47526275 72.00% Moldovan_Gagauz + 28.00% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
3.49817200 66.80% Bulgarian_West + 33.20% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
3.50396150 67.80% Bulgarian_Central + 32.20% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
3.62025759 73.40% Moldovan_Gagauz + 26.60% Uzbek
3.71769779 75.20% Greek_Peloponnese + 24.80% Xiongnu-Turk_DA38
3.73164802 65.80% Romanian + 34.20% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
3.77487099 67.40% Pomak_Bulgaria + 32.60% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
3.78041497 76.20% Greek_Thessaly + 23.80% Xiongnu-Turk_DA38
3.79772355 75.60% Moldovan_Gagauz + 24.40% Uzbeki
3.81192009 68.60% Greek_Peloponnese + 31.40% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA101
3.82041459 71.80% Bulgarian_East + 28.20% Uzbek
3.84629346 66.40% Macedonian_Polog + 33.60% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
3.88651969 74.60% Moldovan_Gagauz + 25.40% Turkmen_Afghanistan
3.90519342 78.40% Bulgarian_Thrace + 21.60% Xiongnu-Turk_DA41
3.90647071 70.40% Bulgarian_East + 29.60% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
3.93051418 69.00% Greek_Thessaloniki + 31.00% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA101
3.93330709 71.60% Bulgarian_Thrace + 28.40% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA65
3.93893007 75.80% Greek_Thrace + 24.20% Xiongnu-Turk_DA38
3.94074885 18.80% Hazara + 81.20% Moldovan_Gagauz
3.97395403 68.40% Moldovan_Gagauz + 31.60% Kipchak_DA179
4.00679748 71.00% Greek_Macedonia + 29.00% Uzbek
4.01426613 67.20% Moldovan_South + 32.80% Turkmen_Iran
vbnetkhio
05-19-2021, 02:39 PM
Turk from Crete:
Kit number: T828997
North_Atlantic 11.87 Pct
Baltic 10.5 Pct
West_Med 15.81 Pct
West_Asian 21.33 Pct
East_Med 27.5 Pct
Red_Sea 5.98 Pct
South_Asian 0.73 Pct
East_Asian 1.45 Pct
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.55 Pct
Northeast_African 3.2 Pct
Sub-Saharan 1.09 Pct
P.S. there are another 7 kits of his family on his account, if somebody's interested.
qylymla
05-19-2021, 03:01 PM
Good job as always! So Trakya is the most Mongoloid while Makedonya is the least.
Please have all the outdated/redundant pops deleted from Vahaduo.
Why mongoloid?
Turk from Crete:
Kit number: T828997
North_Atlantic 11.87 Pct
Baltic 10.5 Pct
West_Med 15.81 Pct
West_Asian 21.33 Pct
East_Med 27.5 Pct
Red_Sea 5.98 Pct
South_Asian 0.73 Pct
East_Asian 1.45 Pct
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.55 Pct
Northeast_African 3.2 Pct
Sub-Saharan 1.09 Pct
P.S. there are another 7 kits of his family on his account, if somebody's interested.
That feel when a supposed Turk is more African than Asian xD
Kaspias
05-19-2021, 04:48 PM
Turk from Crete:
Kit number: T828997
North_Atlantic 11.87 Pct
Baltic 10.5 Pct
West_Med 15.81 Pct
West_Asian 21.33 Pct
East_Med 27.5 Pct
Red_Sea 5.98 Pct
South_Asian 0.73 Pct
East_Asian 1.45 Pct
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.55 Pct
Northeast_African 3.2 Pct
Sub-Saharan 1.09 Pct
P.S. there are another 7 kits of his family on his account, if somebody's interested.
Thanks for posting! Actually, the results are a bit off compared to the Turk_Crete average. At this stage, I should add the possibility of being Cretan Muslim who were Greek speakers. Results significantly differ from the Turk_Crete average in K13 that I created a few years ago and consisted of 5 unrelated samples, but pretty much in line with Greek_Crete. But it also wouldn't be strange if they ended up being ethnic Turks. In PCA, for example, both of them show a shift to the Anatolian Turks. The distance to the Turk_Crete might be explained with regional differentiation in Crete, also.
Eurogenes K13 PCA, due to having Turk_Crete average here.
https://i.ibb.co/C6207qS/k13pca.png
Dodecad K12b results so far,
the son, you posted his K13.
Population
Gedrosia 9.48 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African 3.09 Pct
Southeast_Asian 0.83 Pct
Atlantic_Med 18.78 Pct
North_European 15.2 Pct
South_Asian 0.79 Pct
East_African 3.24 Pct
Southwest_Asian 12.35 Pct
East_Asian 0.29 Pct
Caucasus 34.94 Pct
Sub_Saharan 1.02 Pct
Distance to: Cem
6.64423058 Greek_Crete
7.10577934 Greek_Fournoi
7.54988742 Greek_Lemnos
7.55638803 Greek_Izmir
8.28789479 Moldovan_Jewish
8.79135939 Italian_Apulia
9.07776955 Greek_Foca
9.17797908 Greek_Kos
9.24609647 Ashkenazi_Jews
9.61513910 Italian_Sicily
9.96768278 Italian_Calabria
10.08940533 Turk_West_BlackSea
10.23512579 Greek_Rhodes
10.42708013 Turk_Cyprus
10.87248822 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
11.01993194 Italian_Campania
11.19527132 Turk_Northwest
11.39399403 Greek_Athens
11.39441530 Greek_Central
11.45174659 Italian_Abruzzo
11.51598020 Turk_Central_West
11.64392545 Greek_Icaria
11.79315479 Turk_Southwest
11.84521000 Italian_Jews
12.23696858 Greek_Peloponnese
His mother.
Population
Gedrosia 8.97 Pct
Siberian 0.4 Pct
Northwest_African 3.42 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 21.16 Pct
North_European 14.6 Pct
South_Asian -
East_African 0.49 Pct
Southwest_Asian 13.05 Pct
East_Asian 1 Pct
Caucasus 36.91 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to: Aysel
2.93327462 Greek_Crete
3.19515258 Greek_Fournoi
4.21690645 Greek_Izmir
5.80769317 Greek_Lemnos
5.88020408 Greek_Kos
5.90986463 Moldovan_Jewish
6.65558412 Ashkenazi_Jews
7.07132944 Greek_Rhodes
7.15918291 Italian_Apulia
7.18885248 Italian_Calabria
7.21991690 Greek_Foca
7.65194093 Italian_Sicily
8.31392206 Greek_Icaria
8.54619213 Italian_Campania
9.04288118 Turk_Cyprus
9.51319610 Italian_Jews
9.56435047 Italian_Abruzzo
10.14320462 Greek_Athens
10.31361236 Greek_Central
10.61756093 Turk_West_BlackSea
11.46346370 Sephardic_Jews
11.74024276 Greek_Peloponnese
11.93981156 Turk_Central_West
12.06429857 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
12.23746706 Turk_Northwest
Hektor12
05-19-2021, 05:05 PM
Turk from Crete:Do you place Crete in Balkan because its Greece?
GalenStark
05-20-2021, 11:08 AM
This is the K13 for kit SRS8752864 from the Turkish study of 600+ samples being added to yfull. He is likely Pomak/Balkan Turk judging by his results. Sample is under analysis on yfull. His Y-DNA is R-L1029>Y39054. There is another Balkan Turk/Pomak in this branch with origin from Razgrad as well(not on yfull).
https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-Y44160/
SRS8752864,20.46,23.81,15.94,12.25,20.01,2.54,0,0, 3.67,0.77,0.56,0,0
Target: SRS8752864
Distance: 1.1255% / 1.12548512 | ADC: 0.25x RC
38.7 Bulgaria_Northcentral
24.0 Pomak_Greece
23.9 Bulgaria_Northeastern
9.3 Turk_Makedonya
4.1 Selkup
Here is also his k12b:
SRS8752864,6.14,2.12,2.28,0.34,24.66,31.48,0.58,0, 7.09,0.78,24.51,0
Target: SRS8752864
Distance: 0.8064% / 0.80644864 | ADC: 0.5x RC
70.0 Moldovan_South
26.9 Turk_Deliorman
3.1 Algerian
Gedmatch kit# KV6806249
Fedora
05-20-2021, 12:06 PM
Turk from Crete:
Kit number: T828997
North_Atlantic 11.87 Pct
Baltic 10.5 Pct
West_Med 15.81 Pct
West_Asian 21.33 Pct
East_Med 27.5 Pct
Red_Sea 5.98 Pct
South_Asian 0.73 Pct
East_Asian 1.45 Pct
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.55 Pct
Northeast_African 3.2 Pct
Sub-Saharan 1.09 Pct
P.S. there are another 7 kits of his family on his account, if somebody's interested.
Can be a Greek speaking one!
Kaspias
05-20-2021, 12:28 PM
This is the K13 for kit SRS8752864 from the Turkish study of 600+ samples being added to yfull. He is likely Pomak/Balkan Turk judging by his results. Sample is under analysis on yfull. His Y-DNA is R-L1029>Y39054. There is another Balkan Turk/Pomak in this branch with origin from Razgrad as well(not on yfull).
https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-Y44160/
SRS8752864,20.46,23.81,15.94,12.25,20.01,2.54,0,0, 3.67,0.77,0.56,0,0
Target: SRS8752864
Distance: 1.1255% / 1.12548512 | ADC: 0.25x RC
38.7 Bulgaria_Northcentral
24.0 Pomak_Greece
23.9 Bulgaria_Northeastern
9.3 Turk_Makedonya
4.1 Selkup
Here is also his k12b:
SRS8752864,6.14,2.12,2.28,0.34,24.66,31.48,0.58,0, 7.09,0.78,24.51,0
Target: SRS8752864
Distance: 0.8064% / 0.80644864 | ADC: 0.5x RC
70.0 Moldovan_South
26.9 Turk_Deliorman
3.1 Algerian
Gedmatch kit# KV6806249
Thanks for posting. Pomaks in Bulgaria lie in the South of Plovdiv, therefore Razgrad or around don't have Pomaks except for recent migrators. If a person is from Razgrad and claims to be a native of the region, he is supposedly ethnic Turkish.
This result, on the other hand, looks like a mix of Pomak and Deliorman Turkish or even can pass as typical for both groups.
https://i.ibb.co/vDMMdH8/Ads-z.png
vbnetkhio
05-20-2021, 02:13 PM
Do you place Crete in Balkan because its Greece?
it's a Turk from Europe (i.e. west of the Bosporus) so I thought this is the best thread to post the result.
GalenStark
05-20-2021, 06:15 PM
Thanks for posting. Pomaks in Bulgaria lie in the South of Plovdiv, therefore Razgrad or around don't have Pomaks except for recent migrators. If a person is from Razgrad and claims to be a native of the region, he is supposedly ethnic Turkish.
This result, on the other hand, looks like a mix of Pomak and Deliorman Turkish or even can pass as typical for both groups.
https://i.ibb.co/vDMMdH8/Ads-z.png
Very cool. So he appears a mix of the 2 shifting toward Greek Pomaks?
The study is actually 773 Turkish whole genomes. It's not yet released but here is where it's mentioned. I guess yfull is getting them uploaded in advance.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/bioproject/PRJNA674530
Kaspias
05-22-2021, 06:56 AM
Very cool. So he appears a mix of the 2 shifting toward Greek Pomaks?
The study is actually 773 Turkish whole genomes. It's not yet released but here is where it's mentioned. I guess yfull is getting them uploaded in advance.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/bioproject/PRJNA674530
I see, have noticed one Turkish under L330 (https://www.yfull.com/tree/Q-L330/)uploaded as well, wonder if he is Balkan or Anatolian Turkish. I will be uploading it to Gedmatch today.
I also mailed the author about sample's locations, hope she turns back.
lockdownboredom
05-22-2021, 11:22 AM
Turkish match on Gedmatch.
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 33.23
2 Atlantic_Med 23.28
3 North_European 18.08
4 Gedrosia 9.63
5 Southwest_Asian 6.69
6 Northwest_African 2.71
7 Southeast_Asian 2.16
8 Siberian 1.9
9 East_Asian 1.77
10 South_Asian 0.54
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek (Dodecad) 9.8
2 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 11.54
3 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 11.7
4 Sicilian (Dodecad) 11.9
5 O_Italian (Dodecad) 12.15
6 C_Italian (Dodecad) 12.41
7 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 12.42
8 Tuscan (HGDP) 15.11
9 TSI30 (Metspalu) 16.15
10 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 16.26
11 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 17.05
12 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 17.76
13 Turkish (Dodecad) 17.98
14 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 18.41
15 Romanians (Behar) 18.57
16 Turks (Behar) 20.09
17 N_Italian (Dodecad) 20.49
18 Cypriots (Behar) 22.35
19 North_Italian (HGDP) 22.6
20 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 24.27
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 66.2% Turkish (Dodecad) + 33.8% French (HGDP) @ 3.97
2 78.7% Greek (Dodecad) + 21.3% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 3.98
3 68% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 32% Kumyks (Yunusbayev) @ 4.2
4 67.5% C_Italian (Dodecad) + 32.5% Kumyks (Yunusbayev) @ 4.21
5 60.9% TSI30 (Metspalu) + 39.1% Kumyks (Yunusbayev) @ 4.27
6 75.3% Greek (Dodecad) + 24.7% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 4.33
7 63.4% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 36.6% Turks (Behar) @ 4.46
8 63.7% Turks (Behar) + 36.3% French (HGDP) @ 4.55
9 67.4% C_Italian (Dodecad) + 32.6% Nogais (Yunusbayev) @ 4.57
10 50.5% Turks (Behar) + 49.5% N_Italian (Dodecad) @ 4.59
11 62.8% Tuscan (HGDP) + 37.2% Kumyks (Yunusbayev) @ 4.75
12 70.3% Turkish (Dodecad) + 29.7% Cornwall (1000Genomes) @ 4.78
13 70.7% Turkish (Dodecad) + 29.3% British_Isles (Dodecad) @ 4.85
14 70.7% Turkish (Dodecad) + 29.3% British (Dodecad) @ 4.86
15 72.5% C_Italian (Dodecad) + 27.5% Lezgins (Behar) @ 4.86
16 69.7% Turkish (Dodecad) + 30.3% Kent (1000Genomes) @ 4.87
17 52.3% North_Italian (HGDP) + 47.7% Kumyks (Yunusbayev) @ 4.88
18 60.9% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 39.1% Turkish (Dodecad) @ 4.89
19 50.8% North_Ossetians (Yunusbayev) + 49.2% Murcia (1000Genomes) @ 4.95
20 70% Turkish (Dodecad) + 30% English (Dodecad) @ 4.98
Kaspias
05-22-2021, 04:55 PM
The second Balkan Turkish with L330 (https://www.yfull.com/tree/Q-L330/). See the kit SRS8752324. It is from the unpublished article "The genetic structure of the Turkish population"
As a note, the kit YF82261 also claims to have Turkish origin from the early 1900s, possibly being a Balkan Turkish who joined the Sarikamish Campaign. So, this actually makes three. It is up to you if you consider him or not.
Another note, the kit extracted from the WGS bam file, therefore, has great coverage.
mt-DNA: https://www.yfull.com/mtree/U3b2/
He comes up as half Balkan Turkish and Caucasian which is a pretty common mix in Turkey. Caucasians and Balkan Turks who deported following the Russo-Turkish Wars are settled into Anatolia altogether, therefore some are living in the same or neighboring villages of the Marmara Region. Deliorman Turks who were living in NE Bulgaria were the group which is most influenced by this war, therefore more than half of their population were settled into Anatolia. In this scenario, a Deliorman Turkish + Caucasian(Ossetian/Abkhazian/Adyge-like) mix seems very likely. The mtDNA U3b2 is known with a rich presence in Caucasia. Note the Turkish samples registered in yfull are concentrated in the Blacksea, and the other one, Sakarya, has a considerable amount of Caucasian population.
Results indicate or at least suggest more probability on Eastern Macedonia as the origin of the place. In my experience, this region in terms of Balkan Turks is almost the same as some parts of Deliorman -such as Razgrad, being hearth of Deliorman- probably due to the common admixture they have. This was something we discovered a or two years ago and already made a lot of thinking on it. Therefore, I'm in favor of this Macedonia is a false alarm, and the Balkan Turkish ancestor has origin from North/Eastern Bulgaria.
Gedmatch
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 38.74
2 North_European 22.68
3 Atlantic_Med 13.74
4 Gedrosia 11.5
5 Southwest_Asian 5.81
6 East_Asian 3.2
7 Siberian 1.62
8 South_Asian 1.41
9 Northwest_African 0.66
10 Southeast_Asian 0.64
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Turkish (Dodecad) 14.65
2 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 15.15
3 Turks (Behar) 15.86
4 Greek (Dodecad) 16.47
5 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 17.08
6 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 17.77
7 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 18.35
8 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 19.08
9 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 19.51
10 Romanians (Behar) 20.2
11 Chechens (Yunusbayev) 20.43
12 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 20.48
13 Sicilian (Dodecad) 20.82
14 Adygei (HGDP) 20.96
15 Lezgins (Behar) 21.3
16 Balkars (Yunusbayev) 21.42
17 O_Italian (Dodecad) 21.63
18 North_Ossetians (Yunusbayev) 22.07
19 C_Italian (Dodecad) 22.61
20 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 23.21
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 76.7% Turkish (Dodecad) + 23.3% Russian_B (Behar) @ 3.07
2 80.2% Turkish (Dodecad) + 19.8% Lithuanians (Behar) @ 3.11
3 77.2% Turkish (Dodecad) + 22.8% Belorussian (Behar) @ 3.14
4 79.2% Turkish (Dodecad) + 20.8% Lithuanian (Dodecad) @ 3.14
5 77% Turkish (Dodecad) + 23% Russian (Dodecad) @ 3.16
6 76.1% Turkish (Dodecad) + 23.9% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 3.17
7 74.9% Turkish (Dodecad) + 25.1% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 3.29
8 76.3% Turkish (Dodecad) + 23.7% Polish (Dodecad) @ 3.38
9 74.7% Turks (Behar) + 25.3% Polish (Dodecad) @ 3.4
10 76.2% Turkish (Dodecad) + 23.8% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 3.49
11 73.4% Turks (Behar) + 26.6% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 3.71
12 75.9% Turks (Behar) + 24.1% Belorussian (Behar) @ 3.74
13 74.7% Turks (Behar) + 25.3% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 3.76
14 56.6% Kumyks (Yunusbayev) + 43.4% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) @ 3.89
15 55.1% Kumyks (Yunusbayev) + 44.9% Bulgarian (Dodecad) @ 3.95
16 77.4% Turkish (Dodecad) + 22.6% Russian (HGDP) @ 3.98
17 75.4% Turks (Behar) + 24.6% Russian_B (Behar) @ 4.03
18 81% Turkish (Dodecad) + 19% Finnish (Dodecad) @ 4.09
19 68.9% Turks (Behar) + 31.1% Hungarians (Behar) @ 4.1
20 80.6% Turkish (Dodecad) + 19.4% FIN30 (1000Genomes) @ 4.11
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 33.41
2 East_Med 17.58
3 West_Med 14.64
4 Baltic 13.85
5 North_Atlantic 10.47
6 Siberian 1.95
7 Red_Sea 1.81
8 East_Asian 1.77
9 South_Asian 1.57
10 Amerindian 1.29
11 Oceanian 1.27
12 Sub-Saharan 0.31
13 Northeast_African 0.07
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Kumyk 10.77
2 Kabardin 13.04
3 Balkar 13.11
4 Adygei 14.08
5 Turkish 14.4
6 Chechen 15.15
7 North_Ossetian 15.85
8 Azeri 16.13
9 Ossetian 16.22
10 Lezgin 17.05
11 Tabassaran 17.98
12 Nogay 18.49
13 Turkmen 18.8
14 Kurdish 19.29
15 Georgian 19.68
16 Central_Greek 20.87
17 Iranian 20.94
18 Armenian 20.95
19 Georgian_Jewish 22.05
20 Greek_Thessaly 22.14
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 63.2% Balkar + 36.8% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.76
2 58.5% North_Ossetian + 41.5% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.97
3 63.4% Kabardin + 36.6% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.02
4 62% Kabardin + 38% Central_Greek @ 3.34
5 61.6% Adygei + 38.4% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.61
6 59.3% Ossetian + 40.7% Bulgarian @ 3.76
7 82.3% Kumyk + 17.7% Sardinian @ 3.76
8 67% Kabardin + 33% West_Sicilian @ 3.77
9 64.7% Balkar + 35.3% Bulgarian @ 3.81
10 58% Ossetian + 42% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.83
11 64% Kabardin + 36% East_Sicilian @ 3.84
12 52.8% Abhkasian + 47.2% Romanian @ 3.96
13 69.2% Kabardin + 30.8% Tuscan @ 4.06
14 63.7% Kabardin + 36.3% Italian_Abruzzo @ 4.1
15 51.2% Abhkasian + 48.8% Bulgarian @ 4.16
16 56.1% Abhkasian + 43.9% Serbian @ 4.2
17 62.2% Balkar + 37.8% Central_Greek @ 4.25
18 76.3% Chechen + 23.7% Sardinian @ 4.31
19 55.9% Georgian + 44.1% Romanian @ 4.32
20 54.3% Georgian + 45.7% Bulgarian @ 4.33
https://i.ibb.co/rMKW8SG/ORACLE.png
https://i.ibb.co/QKXZmFD/pca.png
Kaspias
05-23-2021, 05:48 PM
^ Update on the sample information.
His Turkish matches are heavily Adyghe, and specifically the Abzekh tribe. He has no Anatolian Turkish matches and has 2 close Balkan Turkish matches. I have mailed them for detailed information but what I can say now is they are from Bulgaria for sure. Both of these matched samples have matches from both Thrace and Deliorman, therefore I couldn't predict their background.
Also, no specific matches on X-DNA. Neither Caucasian nor Balkan indicator.
I will keep this issue updated. If there are some members who are interested in this upcoming Turkish article maybe we can open a separate thread for its samples?
Korialstrasz
05-26-2021, 07:27 AM
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 38.74
2 North_European 22.68
3 Atlantic_Med 13.74
4 Gedrosia 11.5
5 Southwest_Asian 5.81
6 East_Asian 3.2
7 Siberian 1.62
8 South_Asian 1.41
9 Northwest_African 0.66
10 Southeast_Asian 0.64
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Turkish (Dodecad) 14.65
2 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 15.15
3 Turks (Behar) 15.86
4 Greek (Dodecad) 16.47
5 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 17.08
6 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 17.77
7 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 18.35
8 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 19.08
9 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 19.51
10 Romanians (Behar) 20.2
11 Chechens (Yunusbayev) 20.43
12 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 20.48
13 Sicilian (Dodecad) 20.82
14 Adygei (HGDP) 20.96
15 Lezgins (Behar) 21.3
16 Balkars (Yunusbayev) 21.42
17 O_Italian (Dodecad) 21.63
18 North_Ossetians (Yunusbayev) 22.07
19 C_Italian (Dodecad) 22.61
20 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 23.21
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 76.7% Turkish (Dodecad) + 23.3% Russian_B (Behar) @ 3.07
2 80.2% Turkish (Dodecad) + 19.8% Lithuanians (Behar) @ 3.11
3 77.2% Turkish (Dodecad) + 22.8% Belorussian (Behar) @ 3.14
4 79.2% Turkish (Dodecad) + 20.8% Lithuanian (Dodecad) @ 3.14
5 77% Turkish (Dodecad) + 23% Russian (Dodecad) @ 3.16
6 76.1% Turkish (Dodecad) + 23.9% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 3.17
7 74.9% Turkish (Dodecad) + 25.1% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 3.29
8 76.3% Turkish (Dodecad) + 23.7% Polish (Dodecad) @ 3.38
9 74.7% Turks (Behar) + 25.3% Polish (Dodecad) @ 3.4
10 76.2% Turkish (Dodecad) + 23.8% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 3.49
11 73.4% Turks (Behar) + 26.6% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 3.71
12 75.9% Turks (Behar) + 24.1% Belorussian (Behar) @ 3.74
13 74.7% Turks (Behar) + 25.3% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 3.76
14 56.6% Kumyks (Yunusbayev) + 43.4% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) @ 3.89
15 55.1% Kumyks (Yunusbayev) + 44.9% Bulgarian (Dodecad) @ 3.95
16 77.4% Turkish (Dodecad) + 22.6% Russian (HGDP) @ 3.98
17 75.4% Turks (Behar) + 24.6% Russian_B (Behar) @ 4.03
18 81% Turkish (Dodecad) + 19% Finnish (Dodecad) @ 4.09
19 68.9% Turks (Behar) + 31.1% Hungarians (Behar) @ 4.1
20 80.6% Turkish (Dodecad) + 19.4% FIN30 (1000Genomes) @ 4.11
They are very close to my results, and I am Tutrakan + Adygei (don´t know which tribe, though).
1 Caucasus 38.88
2 North_European 22.39
3 Atlantic_Med 14.13
4 Gedrosia 13.64
5 Southwest_Asian 4.72
6 Siberian 4.66
7 Sub_Saharan 0.67
8 Northwest_African 0.5
9 Southeast_Asian 0.21
10 South_Asian 0.2
# Population (source) Distance
1 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 14.56
2 Turkish (Dodecad) 14.99
3 Turks (Behar) 15.93
4 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 17.24
5 Greek (Dodecad) 17.64
6 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 19.13
7 Chechens (Yunusbayev) 19.42
8 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 19.6
9 Lezgins (Behar) 19.91
10 Adygei (HGDP) 20.45
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 61% Kumyks (Yunusbayev) + 39% O_Italian (Dodecad) @ 4.27
2 53.5% Chechens (Yunusbayev) + 46.5% O_Italian (Dodecad) @ 4.34
3 68.4% Kumyks (Yunusbayev) + 31.6% N_Italian (Dodecad) @ 4.45
4 70.2% Kumyks (Yunusbayev) + 29.8% North_Italian (HGDP) @ 4.73
5 53.2% Greek (Dodecad) + 46.8% Lezgins (Behar) @ 4.88
6 59.5% Kumyks (Yunusbayev) + 40.5% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) @ 5.02
7 61.5% Chechens (Yunusbayev) + 38.5% N_Italian (Dodecad) @ 5.06
8 65.8% Kumyks (Yunusbayev) + 34.2% TSI30 (Metspalu) @ 5.08
9 76.4% Turkish (Dodecad) + 23.6% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 5.09
10 75.1% Kumyks (Yunusbayev) + 24.9% Galicia (1000Genomes) @ 5.1
Kaspias
05-26-2021, 08:09 AM
They are very close to my results, and I am Tutrakan + Adygei (don´t know which tribe, though).
1 Caucasus 38.88
2 North_European 22.39
3 Atlantic_Med 14.13
4 Gedrosia 13.64
5 Southwest_Asian 4.72
6 Siberian 4.66
7 Sub_Saharan 0.67
8 Northwest_African 0.5
9 Southeast_Asian 0.21
10 South_Asian 0.2
# Population (source) Distance
1 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 14.56
2 Turkish (Dodecad) 14.99
3 Turks (Behar) 15.93
4 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 17.24
5 Greek (Dodecad) 17.64
6 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 19.13
7 Chechens (Yunusbayev) 19.42
8 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 19.6
9 Lezgins (Behar) 19.91
10 Adygei (HGDP) 20.45
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 61% Kumyks (Yunusbayev) + 39% O_Italian (Dodecad) @ 4.27
2 53.5% Chechens (Yunusbayev) + 46.5% O_Italian (Dodecad) @ 4.34
3 68.4% Kumyks (Yunusbayev) + 31.6% N_Italian (Dodecad) @ 4.45
4 70.2% Kumyks (Yunusbayev) + 29.8% North_Italian (HGDP) @ 4.73
5 53.2% Greek (Dodecad) + 46.8% Lezgins (Behar) @ 4.88
6 59.5% Kumyks (Yunusbayev) + 40.5% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) @ 5.02
7 61.5% Chechens (Yunusbayev) + 38.5% N_Italian (Dodecad) @ 5.06
8 65.8% Kumyks (Yunusbayev) + 34.2% TSI30 (Metspalu) @ 5.08
9 76.4% Turkish (Dodecad) + 23.6% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 5.09
10 75.1% Kumyks (Yunusbayev) + 24.9% Galicia (1000Genomes) @ 5.1
His Balkan Turkish matches ended up with Pleven, Shumen, and Kazanlik. Pretty much similar to your breakdown.
Kaspias
05-26-2021, 08:14 AM
https://www.yfull.com/tree/Q-L715/
https://www.yfull.com/mtree/H14b*/
His matches are including Turks from Macedonia, Greeks from Macedonia, and a few Albanians.
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 31.76
2 North_European 26.57
3 Atlantic_Med 23.69
4 Southwest_Asian 7.7
5 Gedrosia 6.5
6 Northwest_African 2.01
7 East_Asian 1.4
8 Siberian 0.39
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 8.51
2 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 9.45
3 Greek (Dodecad) 9.63
4 Romanians (Behar) 10.21
5 O_Italian (Dodecad) 10.75
6 C_Italian (Dodecad) 13.75
7 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 15.33
8 Tuscan (HGDP) 15.36
9 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 15.84
10 TSI30 (Metspalu) 15.98
11 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 16.1
12 Sicilian (Dodecad) 16.1
13 N_Italian (Dodecad) 18.54
14 North_Italian (HGDP) 21.2
15 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 21.75
16 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 23.74
17 Turkish (Dodecad) 23.82
18 Hungarians (Behar) 25.09
19 Turks (Behar) 25.89
20 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 26.55
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 73.1% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 26.9% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) @ 3.08
2 52.3% Hungarians (Behar) + 47.7% Cypriots (Behar) @ 3.2
3 75% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 25% Morocco_Jews (Behar) @ 3.34
4 72.3% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 27.7% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 3.42
5 66.9% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 33.1% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 3.47
6 69.1% Romanians (Behar) + 30.9% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) @ 3.54
7 67% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 33% Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 3.59
8 72.8% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 27.2% Russian_B (Behar) @ 3.59
9 72.3% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 27.7% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 3.64
10 66.1% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 33.9% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) @ 3.77
11 80.4% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 19.6% Iranians (Behar) @ 3.83
12 73% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 27% Russian (Dodecad) @ 3.83
13 79.6% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 20.4% Kurd (Dodecad) @ 3.87
14 67.1% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 32.9% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) @ 3.96
15 79% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 21% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) @ 4
16 72.9% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 27.1% Russian_B (Behar) @ 4.01
17 61.2% Romanians (Behar) + 38.8% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) @ 4.04
18 79.6% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 20.4% Kurds (Yunusbayev) @ 4.07
19 71.5% Romanians (Behar) + 28.5% Turkish (Dodecad) @ 4.07
20 71.4% Romanians (Behar) + 28.6% Morocco_Jews (Behar) @ 4.1
Distance to: X
2.99901651 Bulgarian_Thrace
3.63646807 Turk_Makedonya
4.09764567 Greek_Thessaloniki
5.20142288 Greek_Thrace
5.28665301 Greek_Thessaly
5.48382166 Greek_Peloponnese
6.16730898 Bulgarian_East
6.31177471 Albanian
6.41751510 Greek_Macedonia
6.49062401 Moldovan_Gagauz
6.65689117 Turk_Trakya
6.95827565 Albanian_Kosovo
7.16782394 Turk_Deliorman
7.27626965 Macedonian_South
7.29021262 Greek_Central
7.60311778 Macedonian_Northeast&Skopje
7.62603436 Pomak_Greece
7.73401577 Greek_Athens
7.88811131 Macedonian_Vardar
8.67640479 Bulgarian_Central
8.71298456 Macedonian_Polog
8.73643520 Macedonian_East
9.08855324 Pomak_Bulgaria
9.36381333 Greek_Foca
9.73389439 Bulgarian_West
Distance to: X
1.98312407 21.00% Circassian + 79.00% Macedonian_South
1.99878155 85.20% Greek_Macedonia + 14.80% Turk_East_Black_Sea
2.00476869 82.60% Macedonian_South + 17.40% Ossetian_South
2.03462661 85.60% Bulgarian_East + 14.40% Turk_East_Black_Sea
2.04768018 20.80% Balkar + 79.20% Macedonian_South
2.04895226 80.20% Macedonian_Northeast&Skopje + 19.80% Turk_East
2.04996707 80.80% Macedonian_South + 19.20% Ossetian
2.06310168 86.00% Bulgarian_East + 14.00% Greek_Pontus
2.09471790 20.20% Karachay + 79.80% Macedonian_South
2.10336146 82.60% Macedonian_Northeast&Skopje + 17.40% Turk_Ahiska
2.10372354 85.40% Greek_Macedonia + 14.60% Greek_Pontus
2.12042388 19.80% Adyghe + 80.20% Macedonian_South
2.14248338 21.20% Abazin + 78.80% Macedonian_South
2.15966057 24.20% Greek_Cappadocia + 75.80% Pomak_Bulgaria
2.16816777 23.80% Greek_Pontus + 76.20% Romanian
2.17577338 86.20% Greek_Macedonia + 13.80% Hemshin
2.18014360 27.20% Greek_Cappadocia + 72.80% Moldovan_South
2.18090281 22.40% Greek_Pontus + 77.60% Moldovan_South
2.18398336 80.80% Bulgarian_Central + 19.20% Greek_Pontus
2.18707551 82.80% Macedonian_Northeast&Skopje + 17.20% Turk_East_Black_Sea
2.19211402 86.40% Greek_Macedonia + 13.60% Laz
2.19499624 16.00% Abkhazian + 84.00% Macedonian_South
2.19566175 77.40% Macedonian_Northeast&Skopje + 22.60% Turk_Central_East
2.19568055 11.20% Dargin_Kaitag + 88.80% Greek_Thessaloniki
2.20658336 82.80% Bulgarian_East + 17.20% Greek_Cappadocia
Kaspias
06-12-2021, 11:23 AM
Eretna (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e9/Anadolu_Beylikleri.png)(former Danışmend/Mengücek/Saltuk) --> Deliorman. No sign of Anatolian admixture autosomal-wise despite the migration route is proved by y-DNA and matches.
The migration took place either around the 1350s or 1550s.
Y --> https://yfull.com/tree/L-Y48285/
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 North_European 28.47
2 Caucasus 27.23
3 Atlantic_Med 23.15
4 Southwest_Asian 7.92
5 Gedrosia 5.86
6 Siberian 2.75
7 East_Asian 2
8 South_Asian 1.88
9 Sub_Saharan 0.64
10 Southeast_Asian 0.1
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 7.76
2 Romanians (Behar) 8.48
3 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 8.78
4 O_Italian (Dodecad) 12.23
5 Greek (Dodecad) 13.56
6 C_Italian (Dodecad) 16.38
7 Tuscan (HGDP) 17.09
8 TSI30 (Metspalu) 17.38
9 N_Italian (Dodecad) 18.41
10 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 19.01
11 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 19.4
12 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 19.5
13 Sicilian (Dodecad) 19.66
14 North_Italian (HGDP) 21.26
15 Hungarians (Behar) 21.85
16 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 25.12
17 German (Dodecad) 26.52
18 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 26.54
19 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 26.64
20 Turkish (Dodecad) 27
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 66.1% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 33.9% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 3.3
2 67.4% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 32.6% Russian (HGDP) @ 3.52
3 66.1% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 33.9% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 4.08
4 67.3% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 32.7% Russian (HGDP) @ 4.32
5 80.9% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 19.1% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 4.42
6 71.9% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 28.1% FIN30 (1000Genomes) @ 4.49
7 89.3% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 10.7% Makrani (HGDP) @ 4.51
8 81.8% Romanians (Behar) + 18.2% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 4.53
9 67.1% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 32.9% Russian_B (Behar) @ 4.61
10 72.6% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 27.4% Finnish (Dodecad) @ 4.63
11 88.3% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 11.7% Hazara (HGDP) @ 4.64
12 89.8% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 10.2% Balochi (HGDP) @ 4.75
13 90.5% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 9.5% Brahui (HGDP) @ 4.77
14 84% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 16% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 4.8
15 74.3% Greek (Dodecad) + 25.7% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 4.94
16 84.3% Romanians (Behar) + 15.7% Iranians (Behar) @ 4.94
17 82.6% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 17.4% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 4.95
18 86.4% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 13.6% Uzbeks (Behar) @ 4.98
19 65.7% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 34.3% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 5
20 50.5% German (Dodecad) + 49.5% Turkish (Dodecad) @ 5.02
Distance to: X
3.33093080 Turk_Deliorman
3.69774255 Turk_Makedonya
4.54695503 Moldovan_Gagauz
4.57210017 Bulgarian_East
4.93853217 Greek_Macedonia
4.94263088 Turk_Trakya
5.55194560 Bulgarian_Thrace
5.55398956 Pomak_Greece
6.16220740 Bulgarian_Central
6.46170256 Pomak_Bulgaria
6.50925495 Macedonian_Northeast&Skopje
6.85179539 Macedonian_South
6.99370431 Bulgarian_West
7.12990182 Macedonian_Vardar
7.18279194 Macedonian_Polog
7.32099037 Macedonian_East
7.36696002 Greek_Thessaly
7.36997965 Moldovan_South
7.37962736 Greek_Thessaloniki
7.60385429 Albanian_Kosovo
7.72441584 Greek_Thrace
8.12291819 Romanian
9.02825011 Greek_Peloponnese
9.30672338 Albanian
10.41582930 Montenegrin
Distance to: X
2.35987280 14.60% Bashkir_North + 85.40% Bulgarian_Thrace
2.37787159 84.00% Macedonian_Northeast&Skopje + 16.00% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
2.44141017 14.00% Bashkir_Central + 86.00% Bulgarian_Thrace
2.50257139 83.60% Macedonian_Northeast&Skopje + 16.40% Turkmen_Iran
2.52223367 84.40% Bulgarian_Thrace + 15.60% Tatar_Kazan
2.57975169 88.80% Bulgarian_Thrace + 11.20% Mari
2.59736759 87.40% Bulgarian_Thrace + 12.60% Chuvash
2.62169107 90.40% Bulgarian_East + 9.60% Turkmen_Afghanistan
2.63593740 91.60% Bulgarian_East + 8.40% Nogai_Stavropol
2.64285925 95.00% Bulgarian_East + 5.00% Buryat
2.65238868 90.80% Bulgarian_East + 9.20% Uzbeki
2.65550711 95.20% Bulgarian_East + 4.80% Khamnigan
2.65787719 95.60% Bulgarian_East + 4.40% Golden_Horde_DA28
2.67653068 95.60% Bulgarian_East + 4.40% Negidal
2.68137879 93.60% Bulgarian_East + 6.40% Kyrgyz
2.68259315 89.60% Bulgarian_East + 10.40% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
2.68279237 92.00% Bulgarian_East + 8.00% Karakalpak
2.68442614 81.20% Bulgarian_Thrace + 18.80% Lipka_Tatar
2.69471484 95.60% Bulgarian_East + 4.40% Oroqen
2.70456878 13.00% Besermyan_Udmurtia + 87.00% Bulgarian_Thrace
2.70773525 95.60% Bulgarian_East + 4.40% Nanai
2.72135712 94.60% Bulgarian_East + 5.40% Kalmyk
2.72311014 94.80% Bulgarian_East + 5.20% Mongol_Uuld
2.73787299 95.00% Bulgarian_East + 5.00% Mongol_Khalkh
2.73901606 82.40% Macedonian_Northeast&Skopje + 17.60% Kipchak_DA179
Kaspias
06-12-2021, 11:47 AM
Kardzhali.
Y: https://yfull.com/tree/J-Y32720/
MT: https://yfull.com/mtree/I1b*/
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 26.73
2 North_European 24.95
3 Atlantic_Med 21.54
4 Gedrosia 9.16
5 Southwest_Asian 7.01
6 East_Asian 5.17
7 Siberian 3.29
8 South_Asian 1.13
9 Southeast_Asian 0.89
10 East_African 0.13
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 12.63
2 Romanians (Behar) 13.5
3 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 13.71
4 O_Italian (Dodecad) 13.74
5 Greek (Dodecad) 14.93
6 C_Italian (Dodecad) 17.15
7 Tuscan (HGDP) 18.13
8 TSI30 (Metspalu) 18.6
9 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 18.91
10 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 19.15
11 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 19.44
12 Sicilian (Dodecad) 19.45
13 N_Italian (Dodecad) 20.09
14 North_Italian (HGDP) 22.85
15 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 22.87
16 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 24.09
17 Turkish (Dodecad) 24.36
18 Hungarians (Behar) 25.4
19 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 25.54
20 Turks (Behar) 25.92
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 62.2% Turkish (Dodecad) + 37.8% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 4.98
2 68.3% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 31.7% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 5.36
3 62.2% Turkish (Dodecad) + 37.8% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 5.4
4 60.7% Turks (Behar) + 39.3% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 5.43
5 78.6% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 21.4% Hazara (HGDP) @ 5.58
6 54.9% Turkish (Dodecad) + 45.1% German (Dodecad) @ 5.59
7 53.3% Turks (Behar) + 46.7% German (Dodecad) @ 5.66
8 56.2% Turks (Behar) + 43.8% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 5.67
9 68.9% Romanians (Behar) + 31.1% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 5.69
10 57.8% Turkish (Dodecad) + 42.2% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 5.72
11 58.5% Turks (Behar) + 41.5% British_Isles (Dodecad) @ 5.81
12 70.7% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 29.3% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 5.89
13 54.7% Turks (Behar) + 45.3% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) @ 5.94
14 56.4% Turkish (Dodecad) + 43.6% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) @ 5.96
15 60.1% Turkish (Dodecad) + 39.9% British_Isles (Dodecad) @ 6
16 60.7% Turks (Behar) + 39.3% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 6.03
17 61% Turkish (Dodecad) + 39% Orkney (1000Genomes) @ 6.04
18 53.5% N_Italian (Dodecad) + 46.5% Nogais (Yunusbayev) @ 6.04
19 57.4% Turks (Behar) + 42.6% CEU30 (1000Genomes) @ 6.05
20 57.5% Turks (Behar) + 42.5% English (Dodecad) @ 6.06
Distance to: X
3.05977123 Turk_Trakya
4.76572135 Turk_Deliorman
6.61137656 Turk_Makedonya
8.54941518 Bulgarian_Thrace
8.93109176 Moldovan_Gagauz
9.40970244 Bulgarian_East
9.43767450 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
9.66879000 Greek_Macedonia
10.06656347 Greek_Thessaly
10.11904146 Greek_Thrace
10.21163552 Greek_Thessaloniki
10.40872230 Greek_Peloponnese
10.48311023 Pomak_Greece
11.01156211 Macedonian_South
11.09119020 Macedonian_Vardar
11.14457716 Albanian_Kosovo
11.21885021 Bulgarian_Central
11.50173030 Macedonian_Northeast&Skopje
11.55401229 Pomak_Bulgaria
11.60328833 Macedonian_Polog
11.60752773 Albanian
11.84407025 Greek_Central
11.90696855 Macedonian_East
11.97837635 Bulgarian_West
12.05822541 Moldovan_South
Distance to: X
1.85428278 81.20% Bulgarian_Thrace + 18.80% Karluk_DA230
1.94377141 82.80% Bulgarian_Thrace + 17.20% Uyghur
1.94841985 77.60% Bulgarian_Thrace + 22.40% Uzbek
2.02084508 79.20% Bulgarian_Thrace + 20.80% Uzbeki
2.12507728 84.00% Bulgarian_Thrace + 16.00% Hazara
2.29607423 78.60% Bulgarian_Thrace + 21.40% Turkmen_Afghanistan
2.42315406 83.00% Bulgarian_Thrace + 17.00% Karluk_DA222
2.63620205 82.40% Bulgarian_Thrace + 17.60% Karakalpak
2.68369299 81.60% Bulgarian_Thrace + 18.40% Nogai_Stavropol
2.71931475 71.00% Bulgarian_Thrace + 29.00% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
2.72442406 74.80% Bulgarian_East + 25.20% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
2.73687163 82.60% Bulgarian_Thrace + 17.40% Karakhanid_DA204
2.75125484 85.60% Bulgarian_Thrace + 14.40% Kyrgyz_Pamir
2.75145636 73.60% Bulgarian_Thrace + 26.40% Kipchak_DA179
2.75806589 68.60% Bulgarian_East + 31.40% Ottoman_MA2196
2.79945117 81.20% Bulgarian_Thrace + 18.80% Ottoman_MA2195
2.79979944 74.80% Greek_Thrace + 25.20% Uzbek
2.90748208 64.60% Bulgarian_Central + 35.40% Ottoman_MA2196
2.94289286 76.60% Greek_Thrace + 23.40% Uzbeki
2.95327619 32.80% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe + 67.20% Greek_Thrace
3.02339936 63.80% Pomak_Bulgaria + 36.20% Ottoman_MA2196
3.06588560 85.00% Bulgarian_Thrace + 15.00% Kazakh
3.07129501 86.00% Bulgarian_Thrace + 14.00% Kyrgyz
3.08215457 76.00% Moldovan_Gagauz + 24.00% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
3.14007383 70.20% Moldovan_Gagauz + 29.80% Ottoman_MA2196
Kaspias
06-12-2021, 12:05 PM
Deliorman.
Y: https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-L366/
MT: https://www.yfull.com/mtree/H1*/
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 North_European 31.23
2 Caucasus 26.36
3 Atlantic_Med 22.23
4 Southwest_Asian 6.07
5 Gedrosia 5.55
6 East_Asian 3.24
7 Siberian 3.1
8 South_Asian 1.62
9 Northwest_African 0.59
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 6.83
2 Romanians (Behar) 7.16
3 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 7.86
4 O_Italian (Dodecad) 14.77
5 Greek (Dodecad) 16.37
6 C_Italian (Dodecad) 19.12
7 Hungarians (Behar) 19.41
8 Tuscan (HGDP) 19.51
9 TSI30 (Metspalu) 19.68
10 N_Italian (Dodecad) 19.86
11 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 21.9
12 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 22.32
13 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 22.64
14 Sicilian (Dodecad) 22.69
15 North_Italian (HGDP) 22.82
16 German (Dodecad) 24.55
17 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 26.06
18 French (Dodecad) 27.2
19 French (HGDP) 27.33
20 Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) 27.52
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 87.7% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 12.3% Hazara (HGDP) @ 1.96
2 87.1% Romanians (Behar) + 12.9% Hazara (HGDP) @ 2.01
3 84.5% Romanians (Behar) + 15.5% Uzbeks (Behar) @ 2.14
4 85.3% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 14.7% Uzbeks (Behar) @ 2.26
5 86.2% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 13.8% Hazara (HGDP) @ 2.54
6 83.5% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 16.5% Uzbeks (Behar) @ 2.76
7 90.8% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 9.2% Altai (Rasmussen) @ 2.76
8 87.6% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 12.4% Uygur (HGDP) @ 2.77
9 87% Romanians (Behar) + 13% Uygur (HGDP) @ 2.81
10 91.5% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 8.5% Mongol (Rasmussen) @ 2.91
11 92.4% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 7.6% Buryat (Rasmussen) @ 3.08
12 91.2% Romanians (Behar) + 8.8% Mongol (Rasmussen) @ 3.19
13 92.3% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 7.7% Tuva (Rasmussen) @ 3.21
14 93% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 7% Oroqen (HGDP) @ 3.23
15 90.6% Romanians (Behar) + 9.4% Altai (Rasmussen) @ 3.25
16 86.1% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 13.9% Uygur (HGDP) @ 3.32
17 83% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 17% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 3.39
18 92.2% Romanians (Behar) + 7.8% Buryat (Rasmussen) @ 3.4
19 92.7% Romanians (Behar) + 7.3% Oroqen (HGDP) @ 3.51
20 92% Romanians (Behar) + 8% Tuva (Rasmussen) @ 3.57
Distance to: X
3.91410271 Turk_Deliorman
4.70908696 Pomak_Greece
5.14438529 Moldovan_Gagauz
5.56183423 Bulgarian_East
5.64475863 Pomak_Bulgaria
5.77833021 Bulgarian_Central
6.00573060 Greek_Macedonia
6.19970161 Moldovan_South
6.22363238 Bulgarian_West
6.79308472 Turk_Makedonya
6.91694297 Romanian
6.91715982 Turk_Trakya
7.30456706 Macedonian_Northeast&Skopje
7.71027885 Macedonian_Polog
8.21305059 Macedonian_East
8.43902838 Bulgarian_Thrace
8.51338945 Macedonian_Vardar
8.74538736 Macedonian_South
8.99201868 Montenegrin
9.94423954 Albanian_Kosovo
10.35342455 Greek_Thessaloniki
10.37668541 Greek_Thessaly
10.84366635 Greek_Thrace
11.25707777 Moldovan_Central
11.31844512 Serb
Distance to: X
2.17722116 20.00% Nogai + 80.00% Romanian
2.28993850 82.00% Moldovan_South + 18.00% Nogai
2.41736253 86.80% Bulgarian_Central + 13.20% Turkmen_Afghanistan
2.42865822 82.20% Bulgarian_West + 17.80% Nogai
2.43247510 87.40% Bulgarian_Central + 12.60% Uzbeki
2.45968655 88.40% Bulgarian_Central + 11.60% Nogai_Stavropol
2.50164883 88.80% Bulgarian_Central + 11.20% Karakalpak
2.51341008 81.00% Bulgarian_Central + 19.00% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
2.52374531 88.00% Bulgarian_Central + 12.00% Ottoman_MA2195
2.54519840 79.20% Bulgarian_East + 20.80% Lipka_Tatar
2.60172903 86.40% Bulgarian_West + 13.60% Uzbeki
2.61342224 86.00% Bulgarian_West + 14.00% Turkmen_Afghanistan
2.66351185 75.40% Montenegrin + 24.60% Nogai
2.67482097 91.20% Bulgarian_Central + 8.80% Kyrgyz
2.67543512 90.40% Bulgarian_Central + 9.60% Kazakh
2.72597411 91.00% Bulgarian_Central + 9.00% Kyrgyz_Pamir
2.73029240 88.60% Bulgarian_East + 11.40% Tatar_Siberia
2.73371079 83.80% Bulgarian_Central + 16.20% Nogai
2.73654144 89.80% Bulgarian_Central + 10.20% Uyghur
2.75675903 88.80% Bulgarian_Central + 11.20% Karluk_DA230
2.75889128 86.80% Bulgarian_Central + 13.20% Uzbek
2.76096076 89.80% Bulgarian_Central + 10.20% Karluk_DA222
2.76488165 89.00% Bulgarian_Central + 11.00% Nogai_Astrakhan
2.76717230 82.20% Bulgarian_East + 17.80% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
2.79919169 74.80% Bulgarian_Thrace + 25.20% Tatar_Kazan
Kaspias
06-12-2021, 12:42 PM
Matches indicate he could be half Eastern Macedonian(Langada to Xanthi) and half Deliorman Turkish.
Y: https://yfull.com/tree/N-Y56680/
MT: https://yfull.com/mtree/U3b2*/
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 29.46
2 North_European 29.32
3 Atlantic_Med 21.38
4 Southwest_Asian 6.36
5 Gedrosia 5.71
6 Siberian 3.18
7 East_Asian 1.73
8 Northwest_African 1.64
9 South_Asian 1.22
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 6.93
2 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 8.01
3 Romanians (Behar) 8.23
4 Greek (Dodecad) 13.77
5 O_Italian (Dodecad) 14
6 C_Italian (Dodecad) 17.62
7 Tuscan (HGDP) 18.7
8 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 19.02
9 TSI30 (Metspalu) 19.12
10 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 19.57
11 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 20.24
12 Sicilian (Dodecad) 20.24
13 N_Italian (Dodecad) 20.47
14 Hungarians (Behar) 22.27
15 North_Italian (HGDP) 23.32
16 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 24.69
17 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 25.55
18 Turkish (Dodecad) 26.04
19 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 27.3
20 German (Dodecad) 27.57
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 80.8% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 19.2% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 2.37
2 83.9% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 16.1% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 3.17
3 54% Hungarians (Behar) + 46% Turkish (Dodecad) @ 3.58
4 64.9% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 35.1% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 3.6
5 83% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 17% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 3.7
6 81.3% Romanians (Behar) + 18.7% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 3.73
7 83.9% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 16.1% Iranians (Behar) @ 3.74
8 86.7% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 13.3% Uzbeks (Behar) @ 3.8
9 89.1% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 10.9% Hazara (HGDP) @ 3.82
10 64.9% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 35.1% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 3.83
11 79.2% Romanians (Behar) + 20.8% Turks (Behar) @ 3.9
12 73.1% Greek (Dodecad) + 26.9% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 3.9
13 66.4% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) + 33.6% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 3.92
14 83.5% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 16.5% Iranian (Dodecad) @ 3.94
15 83.7% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 16.3% Kurd (Dodecad) @ 4.03
16 81.2% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 18.8% Nogais (Yunusbayev) @ 4.04
17 78.3% Romanians (Behar) + 21.7% Turkish (Dodecad) @ 4.12
18 83.3% Romanians (Behar) + 16.7% Kurd (Dodecad) @ 4.21
19 87% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 13% Iranians (Behar) @ 4.21
20 83.3% Romanians (Behar) + 16.7% Iranian (Dodecad) @ 4.23
Distance to: X
4.16860888 Turk_Deliorman
4.98981964 Turk_Makedonya
5.10842441 Pomak_Greece
5.39614677 Turk_Trakya
5.43330470 Moldovan_Gagauz
5.59030411 Bulgarian_East
6.22719038 Greek_Macedonia
6.37332723 Bulgarian_Thrace
7.19872211 Bulgarian_Central
7.27645518 Pomak_Bulgaria
7.71026588 Macedonian_Northeast&Skopje
8.03165612 Bulgarian_West
8.13925672 Greek_Thessaloniki
8.42286175 Moldovan_South
8.67496974 Macedonian_Polog
8.70121256 Macedonian_South
8.78721230 Greek_Thessaly
8.81659231 Macedonian_Vardar
9.04235036 Macedonian_East
9.06328859 Greek_Thrace
9.29510624 Romanian
9.37204353 Albanian_Kosovo
9.89576172 Greek_Peloponnese
10.34452996 Albanian
11.55579076 Montenegrin
Distance to: X
2.35829863 83.00% Bulgarian_East + 17.00% Nogai
2.43194699 77.20% Macedonian_Northeast&Skopje + 22.80% Nogai
2.46148210 15.20% Ottoman_MA2196 + 84.80% Pomak_Greece
2.51122395 27.20% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain + 72.80% Pomak_Greece
2.75916249 78.80% Bulgarian_Central + 21.20% Nogai
2.76777397 84.20% Moldovan_Gagauz + 15.80% Nogai
2.88165373 14.60% Nogai + 85.40% Pomak_Greece
2.96122067 36.20% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain + 63.80% Pomak_Bulgaria
3.11523776 21.00% Nogai + 79.00% Pomak_Bulgaria
3.15874816 61.40% Bulgarian_West + 38.60% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
3.16849417 74.40% Macedonian_East + 25.60% Nogai
3.19128836 77.00% Bulgarian_West + 23.00% Nogai
3.21340532 88.40% Pomak_Greece + 11.60% Turkmen_Iran
3.21390516 64.40% Bulgarian_Central + 35.60% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
3.21653316 75.40% Macedonian_Polog + 24.60% Nogai
3.22545749 40.00% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain + 60.00% Moldovan_South
3.23148838 22.80% Abazin + 77.20% Moldovan_South
3.26485749 13.00% Abazin + 87.00% Pomak_Greece
3.27647390 11.40% Azerbaijani_Turkey + 88.60% Pomak_Greece
3.28242249 22.40% Circassian + 77.60% Moldovan_South
3.28283211 19.60% Abazin + 80.40% Bulgarian_Central
3.29314766 21.80% Abazin + 78.20% Bulgarian_West
3.29995502 42.60% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain + 57.40% Romanian
3.31233657 19.80% Abazin + 80.20% Pomak_Bulgaria
3.32001246 13.80% Kabardin + 86.20% Pomak_Greece
balkanik
06-13-2021, 10:32 AM
151 samples in total.
Components
https://i.ibb.co/xzdsTHM/komponentpng.png
Comparison between Turks & Greeks, Bulgarians, Macedonians
https://i.ibb.co/GMXtVwW/Plot.png
PCA's
https://i.ibb.co/jW9r4pZ/PCAAv1.png
https://i.ibb.co/LSrC38h/PCAAv2.png
https://i.ibb.co/W2yTTLv/PCAcoklu.png
Averages
https://i.ibb.co/p3D9rSb/komponentler.png
Turk_Trakya,8.48,3.85,1.04,0.37,21.03,25.64,0.86,0 .08,7.83,3.00,27.75,0.03
Turk_Deliorman,8.07,3.08,0.62,0.69,21.58,28.74,0.9 4,0.07,7.05,2.60,26.53,0.06
Turk_Makedonya,6.76,1.79,1.02,0.50,24.44,26.63,0.5 3,0.26,8.13,1.01,28.81,0.11
Individuals
https://i.ibb.co/5W5pHhX/Rumeli.png
Turk_Trakya1,7.73,4.37,1.4,0.3,18.4,24.7,2.08,0,6. 97,4.92,29.14,0
Turk_Trakya2,8.16,2.92,0.29,0,22.75,25.92,0.36,0,7 .18,4.53,27.65,0.23
Turk_Trakya3,8.94,4.5,0,0,18.84,26,1.32,0,7.24,2.8 9,30.26,0
Turk_Trakya4,6.33,5.8,0.24,0.87,20.32,25.28,0.1,0, 8.57,4.64,27.84,0
Turk_Trakya5,10.68,4.87,1.4,0,18.29,23.72,2.52,0,6 .8,3.99,27.28,0
Turk_Trakya6,8.86,2.49,1.51,0,21.21,26.92,0.18,0.2 3,7.65,5.67,25.28,0
Turk_Trakya7,10.8,2.06,0.24,0,19.46,25.26,0.64,0,9 .51,4.92,27.11,0
Turk_Trakya8,10.55,3.17,0.09,0,19.72,25.81,0,0,8.1 5,3.91,28.6,0
Turk_Trakya9,8.12,4.27,2.26,0,23.66,24.53,0.7,0,7. 45,1.5,27.5,0
Turk_Trakya10,8.67,3.36,0.48,0,21.63,25.32,0.12,0, 7.39,4.03,28.99,0
Turk_Trakya11,11.01,5.32,0,0,16,25.15,0,0,7.93,6.3 1,28.26,0
Turk_Trakya12,8.45,3.76,2.12,0,21.58,22.7,2.36,0,1 0.43,3.68,24.82,0.1
Turk_Trakya13,7.7,5.22,0.98,0,20.76,25.55,2.04,0,7 .42,2.7,27.61,0
Turk_Trakya14,6.86,4.88,1.16,1.1,19.59,25.01,0,0,1 1.09,1.67,28.64,0
Turk_Trakya15,8.96,6.29,2.15,0.39,17.49,25.84,0,0, 7.53,4.94,26.4,0
Turk_Trakya16,8.38,3.85,0,0.37,21.33,25.31,0,0,7.3 2,5.43,28.01,0
Turk_Trakya17,8.12,3.21,0.22,0,21.61,26.17,0,0,7.4 4,6.15,26.53,0.55
Turk_Trakya18,7.32,2.81,1.05,3.07,23.49,28.3,0,0,9 ,1.75,23.21,0
Turk_Trakya19,10.62,3.61,1.77,0,17.73,21.49,2.24,0 .64,9.13,5.21,27.16,0
Turk_Trakya20,10.83,3.68,0,2.15,20.61,21.08,0,0,9, 1.26,31.38,0
Turk_Trakya21,5.95,4.72,0.26,0.07,17.16,28.07,2.71 ,0,9.91,3.41,27.7,0
Turk_Trakya22,7.94,3.79,0.58,0.72,20.51,22.9,0.07, 0,9.22,2.99,31.17,0
Turk_Trakya23,10.06,4.88,2.1,0,17.38,26.73,0.48,0, 7.82,3.17,27.38,0
Turk_Trakya24,7.48,1.38,1.99,0.64,23.81,26.84,0,0, 6.47,0.95,30.43,0
Turk_Trakya25,9.84,0.34,0.46,0.14,22.6,32.16,1.04, 0,7.9,1.66,23.86,0
Turk_Trakya26,8.78,1.59,0.89,0.12,21.07,30.16,1.2, 0,8.41,0.64,27.13,0
Turk_Trakya27,9.85,2.8,1.44,0.9,22.2,22.4,0.82,0.7 6,7.81,1.84,29.48,0.2
Turk_Trakya28,8.97,4.22,1.07,0.74,22.26,23.62,0,0, 7.75,1.38,29.99,0
Turk_Trakya29,7.46,2.06,1.19,0,23.03,23.85,0,0,8.6 8,1.9,31.84,0
Turk_Trakya30,8.56,4.59,0.44,0,21.5,21.39,3.03,0,6 .98,4.39,29.12,0
Turk_Trakya31,9.9,4.51,1.28,0,21.9,22.97,0.99,0,7. 22,3.63,27.61,0
Turk_Trakya32,10.94,2.63,0,0,21.09,28.72,1.98,0,8. 01,1.35,23.2,0
Turk_Trakya33,9.09,3.63,0.87,0,22.06,23.62,0,0.46, 5.97,5.01,29.3,0
Turk_Trakya34,6.99,5.79,1.66,0.47,20.33,24.56,0.74 ,0,7.41,2.96,29.08,0
Turk_Trakya35,9.92,5.77,0,0.74,17.33,24.74,1.69,0. 1,7.88,3.58,28.23,0
Turk_Trakya36,5.09,3.35,0.19,0,21.71,28.48,1.98,0, 8.78,3.3,27.1,0
Turk_Trakya37,7.63,3.85,0.18,0.1,18.64,24.33,1.29, 0.27,8.88,6.33,28.48,0
Turk_Trakya38,9.1,2.51,2.02,1.16,20.84,26.29,0.85, 0,7.04,2.48,27.59,0
Turk_Trakya39,7.62,2.45,1.39,2.17,20.27,28.68,0.48 ,0,7.8,0.79,28.35,0
Turk_Trakya40,7.76,5.62,1.58,0,17.83,26.6,0.05,0,8 .39,4.95,27.22,0
Turk_Trakya41,9.88,4.46,1.3,0,21.89,22.95,0.99,0,7 .23,3.72,27.58,0
Turk_Trakya42,6.81,2.88,0.82,0.47,20.89,29.49,0,0, 6.41,2.69,29.48,0
Turk_Trakya43,7.32,1.09,0.65,1.46,23.78,28.55,0,0, 6.55,2.66,27.95,0
Turk_Trakya44,6.93,3.8,2.64,1.08,20.8,27.78,1.57,0 ,7.02,0.91,27.45,0
Turk_Trakya45,7.31,4.9,0,0,23.86,27.33,1.13,0.24,7 .3,1.81,26.12,0
Turk_Trakya46,9.25,3.79,1.13,0,23.06,24.66,0.14,0, 7.68,3.4,26.89,0
Turk_Trakya47,7.57,3.89,0.28,0.52,27.62,22.79,0.14 ,0,6.4,2.79,28,0
Turk_Trakya48,11.25,2.7,0,0,21.63,22.64,0.6,0,8.88 ,1.85,30.45,0
Turk_Trakya49,9.57,1.67,1.48,0,22.14,27.74,2.16,0. 18,6.26,0,28.78,0
Turk_Trakya50,4.99,3.77,2.55,0.17,19.79,26.74,0,0. 35,8.48,1.82,31.01,0.34
Turk_Trakya51,6.78,4.43,0,0.27,26.03,30.43,1.17,0, 5.96,0.25,24.68,0
Turk_Trakya52,6.87,2.05,1.71,0,25.94,25.91,0.58,0. 07,7.99,0,29.26,0
Turk_Trakya53,9.65,3.46,1.29,1.51,21.15,25.53,2.09 ,0.26,7.6,0,26.87,0.61
Turk_Trakya54,7.44,3.89,3.15,0.68,20.02,31.08,0,0, 8.68,0.24,24.83,0
Turk_Trakya55,4.92,2.19,1.49,0,24.1,30.53,0,0,8.42 ,0.98,27.34,0
Turk_Trakya56,11.44,8,1,0,19.69,21.8,2.95,0.24,7.4 8,3.79,23.61,0
Turk_Trakya57,9.55,6.27,0.63,0,20.59,22.23,2.31,0. 41,8.88,2.64,26.47,0
Turk_Trakya58,9.4,8.11,0.49,0,15.73,24.3,1.37,0.48 ,7.16,6.47,26.49,0
Turk_Trakya59,8.89,5.08,3.66,0,18.02,22.17,0.55,0, 7.07,4.84,29.72,0
Turk_Trakya60,6.68,3.86,1.01,0,26.82,26.29,0,0,6.9 4,2.19,26.22,0
Turk_Deliorman1,7.8,3.93,0.42,0,22.94,32.53,0.68,0 .3,3.78,3.48,24.14,0
Turk_Deliorman2,8.6,1.1,0,0,22.55,30.17,1.37,0.81, 3.9,4.05,27.42,0.05
Turk_Deliorman3,8.26,6.03,0.66,0,20.41,29.26,0,0,8 .33,0,27.06,0
Turk_Deliorman4,7.44,4.59,0.37,0,19.65,29.85,0,0,7 .99,1.91,28.01,0.19
Turk_Deliorman5,8.06,3.36,0.74,0.91,22.02,30.13,0. 43,0.31,6.58,1.37,26.09,0
Turk_Deliorman6,6.71,2.99,0.98,1.14,21.6,31.38,1.1 7,0,5.87,1.21,26.92,0
Turk_Deliorman7,6.24,2.7,0.11,0,23.86,27.45,0,0,9. 56,3.48,26.52,0.08
Turk_Deliorman8,7.29,3.26,0.85,1.33,20.96,28.02,0. 3,0,6.1,2.95,28.95,0
Turk_Deliorman9,9.11,2.37,1.27,0,20.66,30.06,0.99, 0.3,6.41,5.71,23.02,0.11
Turk_Deliorman10,6.81,2.88,0.82,0.47,20.89,29.49,0 ,0,6.41,2.69,29.48,0
Turk_Deliorman11,7.9,2.94,0,1.39,19.87,30.2,0.82,0 ,8.38,2.11,26.4,0
Turk_Deliorman12,6.77,2.33,0,2.8,21.57,29.46,0,0.0 5,9.32,2.67,25.03,0
Turk_Deliorman13,7.1,2.38,0,1.95,20.88,27.21,0,0,9 .4,4.07,27.01,0
Turk_Deliorman14,6.18,3.34,1.07,0.3,21.47,28.33,1. 34,0,8.17,3.99,25.82,0
Turk_Deliorman15,9.25,3.79,1.13,0,23.06,24.66,0.14 ,0,7.68,3.4,27.89,0
Turk_Deliorman16,9.53,0.63,0,0,21.05,30.4,0.57,0.0 6,7.1,4.46,26.19,0
Turk_Deliorman17,8.95,2.06,0.37,0,21.45,27.71,1.22 ,0.27,7.29,3.36,27.32,0
Turk_Deliorman18,9.61,2.57,0.94,1.78,18.06,25.98,0 .36,0.18,9.36,4.22,26.94,0
Turk_Deliorman19,7.51,3.87,1.28,0.71,20.84,30.37,1 .83,0,6.67,1.98,24.96,0
Turk_Deliorman20,9.96,2.99,0,0.36,24.49,31.7,0.98, 0,4.43,1.25,23.84,0
Turk_Deliorman21,9.14,2.78,0,0.09,25.76,30.41,0.79 ,0,5.47,4.55,20.99,0
Turk_Deliorman22,10.1,3.73,0,0.58,24.59,30.18,0,0, 6.96,2.95,20.9,0
Turk_Deliorman23,7,2.38,0.14,0.57,22.88,28.78,0.09 ,0.19,7.74,4.89,25.23,0.13
Turk_Deliorman24,7.19,3.19,0.88,0,21.65,29.46,1.84 ,0,7.25,3.18,25.37,0
Turk_Deliorman25,7.06,3.04,1.19,0.42,23.08,29.1,0, 0,6.4,2.15,28.58,0
Turk_Deliorman26,5.14,3.16,0,0.72,23.55,27.88,1.4, 0.39,7.74,1.14,28.9,0
Turk_Deliorman27,7.29,3.98,0.72,0.23,22.01,29.81,1 .09,0,4.52,2,28.35,0
Turk_Deliorman28,8.72,5.09,0,0,22.57,29.01,0.77,0, 5.93,4.79,23.09,0
Turk_Deliorman29,8.95,3.41,1,0.36,20.48,28.12,1.2, 0,7.14,2.67,26.6,0.06
Turk_Deliorman30,8.78,3.92,1.07,1.67,23.47,27.38,1 .68,0,4.79,1.22,26.04,0
Turk_Deliorman31,9.33,4.24,0.53,0.34,23.27,27.07,0 ,0,7.13,3.15,24.93,0
Turk_Deliorman32,8.47,2.94,1.07,0,20.16,29.05,0.08 ,0,6.61,3.99,27.63,0
Turk_Deliorman33,9.27,3.76,1,0,19.96,28.01,0.47,0, 7.72,3.67,26.15,0
Turk_Deliorman34,7.58,2.47,1.6,0,25.91,24.09,1.38, 0,7.23,3.23,26.5,0
Turk_Deliorman35,5.59,1.63,0.3,1.23,27.19,28.39,1. 42,0,5.63,1.2,27.43,0
Turk_Deliorman36,5.28,1.66,0,2.59,24.14,30.06,0.9, 0,7.51,0,27.86,0
Turk_Deliorman37,7.37,0.35,0,1.25,24.37,30.25,0,0, 7.54,0.81,27.98,0.07
Turk_Deliorman38,4.36,0.88,0.89,0,26.9,32.8,0.79,0 ,6.99,0.19,26.19,0
Turk_Deliorman39,7.46,1.49,1.44,0.74,22.33,28.11,1 .74,0,8.33,1.53,26.82,0
Turk_Deliorman40,6.43,3.32,1.46,0,20.95,31.85,0.99 ,0,5.59,2.2,27.21,0
Turk_Deliorman41,7.35,3.98,0,0.37,19.98,27.94,1.94 ,0,7.65,5.24,25.55,0
Turk_Deliorman42,7.37,7.67,0,1.68,17.57,29.36,1.79 ,0,5.5,6.29,22.78,0
Turk_Deliorman43,9.87,4.55,0,1.64,20.27,29.69,0.37 ,0,7.12,0.3,26.18,0
Turk_Deliorman44,7.56,2.4,0.94,0,18.52,27.81,0,0,7 .44,4.05,31.2,0.08
Turk_Deliorman45,7.05,2.06,1.39,2.05,20.34,26.9,0, 0.21,10.73,2.35,25.95,0.97
Turk_Deliorman46,9.74,0.89,0,2.39,19.39,27.31,0.17 ,0,7.06,4.54,27.99,0.5
Turk_Deliorman47,7.67,3.76,0.44,1.01,22.33,28.02,0 .87,0.82,7.25,0.44,27.4,0
Turk_Deliorman48,6.49,0.9,0.87,0,24.46,36,0.57,0,6 .48,0,24.24,0
Turk_Deliorman49,9.46,3.46,0,0.34,20.91,27.15,0.06 ,0,8.64,3.24,26.73,0
Turk_Deliorman50,9.66,1.96,0,0,21.11,29.38,1.47,0. 23,7.62,2.83,25.74,0
Turk_Deliorman51,12.11,4.49,0,1.67,16.92,23.23,3.3 ,0.27,6.53,6.88,24.61,0
Turk_Deliorman52,8.22,4.42,0,0.92,19.75,25.1,1.99, 0,6.83,2.9,29.01,0.86
Turk_Deliorman53,9.88,4.46,0,1.65,20.28,29.7,0.37, 0,7.13,0.36,26.17,0
Turk_Deliorman54,10.57,3.41,0.47,0,21.21,26.22,2.6 9,0.26,7.92,2.21,25.03,0
Turk_Deliorman55,5.68,3.06,2.62,0,18.87,25.91,0.98 ,0,9.15,2.42,31.31,0
Turk_Deliorman56,10.47,3.2,0.97,0,18.98,24.79,0.96 ,0,7.35,4.45,28.82,0
Turk_Deliorman57,8.25,4.23,0.99,0.4,20.48,30.18,2. 12,0,7.24,2.09,23.98,0
Turk_Deliorman58,6.6,2.8,1.24,0.65,22.94,27.65,1.2 9,0,7.83,1.49,27.5,0
Turk_Deliorman59,7.87,2.93,0,1.39,19.86,30.18,0.79 ,0,8.38,2.19,26.41,0
Turk_Deliorman60,8.95,2.06,0.37,0,21.45,27.71,1.22 ,0.27,7.29,3.36,27.32,0
Turk_Deliorman61,10.41,4.57,0,1.25,20.54,26.59,1.6 5,0,6.17,2.57,26.23,0
Turk_Deliorman62,6.59,2.1,0,0,23.84,27.28,2.6,0,7. 82,1.56,28.2,0
Turk_Deliorman63,8.09,1.98,0.28,0.52,23.8,29.37,1. 51,0,6.01,4.72,23.73,0
Turk_Deliorman64,8.98,3.06,0,0,22.68,25.73,0.99,0, 7.14,2.76,27.69,0.9
Turk_Deliorman65,7,4.37,1.12,0.48,22.39,28.51,0.81 ,0,4.39,4.33,26.61,0
Turk_Deliorman66,7.31,1.7,0.39,0,24.47,29.77,1.08, 0,8.13,1.56,25.59,0
Turk_Deliorman67,9.15,4.21,0,1.24,21.25,28.2,1.9,0 ,5.83,0.24,27.98,0
Turk_Deliorman68,9.02,4.01,0.25,0.91,18.1,31.11,0. 99,0,7.9,2.2,25.5,0
Turk_Deliorman69,8.17,1.91,1,2.97,19.47,27.34,1.5, 0,8.69,0.55,28.39,0
Turk_Deliorman70,7.63,2.17,2.46,0.18,20.45,31.56,0 .46,0,6.22,0.27,28.6,0
Turk_Deliorman71,8.47,3.8,3,1.14,21.89,27.92,0,0,4 .94,0.71,27.87,0.25
Turk_Deliorman72,8.41,3.23,1.16,0,18,29.5,1.29,0,5 .96,3.23,29.15,0.07
Turk_Deliorman73,8.05,3.07,0,1.91,21.25,31.84,2.6, 0,6.17,0.41,24.69,0
Turk_Deliorman74,9.4,3.48,1.89,0,19.41,27.54,0.53, 0,8.35,2.12,27.28,0
Turk_Makedonya1,7.89,1.54,0.71,0,23.36,26.95,1.31, 0,6.52,2.79,28.91,0
Turk_Makedonya2,5.9,1.33,2.25,0,24.61,31.74,0,0,7. 71,0.7,25.77,0
Turk_Makedonya3,7.84,1.78,0.08,0.08,23.37,31.99,1. 9,0.17,6.16,1.25,25.36,0
Turk_Makedonya4,7.24,2.48,2.68,0,24.78,30.5,0.8,0. 23,7.12,0.7,23.44,0
Turk_Makedonya5,4.96,1.86,0.24,0.95,26.93,29.57,0, 0,8.07,0,27.41,0
Turk_Makedonya6,4.86,1.2,0,1.11,23.28,30.01,0,2.14 ,9.27,0.45,26.31,1.39
Turk_Makedonya7,4.55,2.54,1.22,0,23.27,30.64,0.57, 0,4.85,1.74,30.62,0
Turk_Makedonya8,5.75,2.76,0.27,0,25.11,29.94,0.76, 0,9.19,1.35,24.88,0
Turk_Makedonya9,8.54,2.97,2.14,1.77,23.79,17.04,0, 0.94,9.18,0.38,33.05,0.18
Turk_Makedonya10,6.4,0.52,0.45,0.18,26.06,27.11,0, 0,8.33,0.07,30.72,0.15
Turk_Makedonya11,6.03,1.12,0,1.07,26.27,26.41,0,0. 11,8.33,0,30.48,0.2
Turk_Makedonya12,7.72,2.23,1.38,1.34,21.58,27.24,1 .29,0,8.02,0.63,28.56,0
Turk_Makedonya13,6.37,0,0.79,1.37,25.19,25.82,0,0. 35,9.45,0,30.5,0
Turk_Makedonya14,5.6,1.96,1.55,0.45,31.95,23.18,0, 0,8.75,0,26.57,0
Turk_Makedonya15,7.66,1.44,0.65,0,22.53,21.74,0.37 ,0.42,8.72,1.65,34.82,0
Turk_Makedonya16,9.03,2.5,1.69,0.1,21.33,21.93,2.0 5,0,7.38,2.49,31.5,0
Turk_Makedonya17,8.59,2.16,1.17,0,22.15,20.94,0,0, 11.09,2.97,30.91,0
Astonishing work Kaspias, do you also know where Turk_Deliorman8 is from? She stands closest to me.
Kaspias
06-13-2021, 11:03 AM
Astonishing work Kaspias, do you also know where Turk_Deliorman8 is from? She stands closest to me.
Thanks, welcome again :)
He is from Samuil(Işıklar), Razgrad.
Kaspias
06-13-2021, 02:34 PM
Western Thrace, Sofulu(Evros)
Y: https://www.yfull.com/tree/N-L665/
MT: https://www.yfull.com/mtree/H5a/
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 27.83
2 North_European 23.74
3 Atlantic_Med 22.29
4 Southwest_Asian 9.13
5 Gedrosia 6.1
6 Siberian 3.43
7 South_Asian 2.29
8 Northwest_African 2.09
9 Southeast_Asian 1.7
10 East_Asian 1.4
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 O_Italian (Dodecad) 11.86
2 Greek (Dodecad) 11.87
3 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 11.93
4 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 12.81
5 Romanians (Behar) 12.99
6 C_Italian (Dodecad) 14.6
7 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 15.43
8 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 15.8
9 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 16.17
10 Sicilian (Dodecad) 16.3
11 Tuscan (HGDP) 16.35
12 TSI30 (Metspalu) 16.8
13 N_Italian (Dodecad) 19.11
14 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 20.96
15 North_Italian (HGDP) 21.7
16 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 22.29
17 Turkish (Dodecad) 23.83
18 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 25.49
19 Turks (Behar) 25.63
20 Hungarians (Behar) 26.34
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 71.5% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 28.5% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 3.89
2 71.4% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 28.6% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 4.25
3 66.9% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 33.1% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 4.6
4 68% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 32% Russian (HGDP) @ 4.73
5 72.9% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 27.1% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 4.9
6 73.8% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 26.2% Russian (HGDP) @ 5.02
7 72.1% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 27.9% FIN30 (1000Genomes) @ 5.31
8 72.8% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 27.2% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 5.33
9 73.8% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 26.2% Russian (HGDP) @ 5.47
10 72.8% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 27.2% Finnish (Dodecad) @ 5.58
11 73.1% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) + 26.9% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 5.65
12 72.6% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 27.4% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 5.66
13 65.7% Morocco_Jews (Behar) + 34.3% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 5.67
14 77.6% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 22.4% FIN30 (1000Genomes) @ 5.74
15 68% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 32% Russian_B (Behar) @ 5.77
16 78.2% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 21.8% Finnish (Dodecad) @ 5.89
17 78.6% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) + 21.4% FIN30 (1000Genomes) @ 5.91
18 75.2% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) + 24.8% Russian (HGDP) @ 5.92
19 66.7% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 33.3% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 5.94
20 66% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 34% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 5.98
Distance to: X
4.49648752 Turk_Trakya
4.89637621 Turk_Makedonya
6.22335119 Bulgarian_Thrace
6.47888108 Turk_Deliorman
6.96909607 Greek_Peloponnese
7.16292538 Greek_Thessaloniki
7.29733513 Greek_Thessaly
7.36668175 Greek_Thrace
8.47823095 Moldovan_Gagauz
8.60825766 Bulgarian_East
8.84020927 Albanian
8.84910165 Greek_Central
8.94944132 Greek_Macedonia
9.17934638 Greek_Athens
9.28871896 Macedonian_South
9.28962863 Albanian_Kosovo
9.94457138 Macedonian_Vardar
10.12156114 Pomak_Greece
10.37639629 Macedonian_Northeast&Skopje
10.51126539 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
10.59991981 Italian_Apulia
10.72665838 Greek_Foca
10.81584024 Bulgarian_Central
10.91241953 Macedonian_East
10.92087451 Macedonian_Polog
Distance to: X
3.05643297 24.20% Bashkir_North + 75.80% Italian_Apulia
3.21600770 22.20% Besermyan_Udmurtia + 77.80% Italian_Apulia
3.22283823 79.60% Italian_Apulia + 20.40% Komi
3.45430152 71.00% Italian_Calabria + 29.00% Russian_Ural
3.48770613 71.00% Italian_Calabria + 29.00% Komi
3.53334567 93.80% Bulgarian_Thrace + 6.20% Sakha_Yakutia
3.58263423 80.00% Italian_Apulia + 20.00% Udmurt
3.60080255 93.00% Bulgarian_Thrace + 7.00% Tuvan
3.60850566 93.40% Bulgarian_Thrace + 6.60% Khamnigan
3.61133568 85.40% Bulgarian_Thrace + 14.60% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
3.65324115 94.40% Bulgarian_Thrace + 5.60% Evenk
3.68681418 92.80% Bulgarian_Thrace + 7.20% Khasi
3.68786780 93.20% Bulgarian_Thrace + 6.80% Buryat
3.72996891 7.80% Altaian_Telengit + 92.20% Bulgarian_Thrace
3.74978479 7.80% Altaian_Kizhi + 92.20% Bulgarian_Thrace
3.75273536 94.00% Bulgarian_Thrace + 6.00% Golden_Horde_DA28
3.76270407 89.40% Bulgarian_Thrace + 10.60% Karakalpak
3.76554971 91.80% Bulgarian_Thrace + 8.20% Khakass
3.77416019 89.80% Bulgarian_Thrace + 10.20% Karluk_DA222
3.78372109 91.40% Bulgarian_Thrace + 8.60% Kyrgyz
3.79507724 93.40% Bulgarian_Thrace + 6.60% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA96
3.79913699 87.20% Bulgarian_Thrace + 12.80% Turkmen_Afghanistan
3.80359857 91.20% Bulgarian_Thrace + 8.80% Kyrgyz_Pamir
3.82094293 93.20% Bulgarian_Thrace + 6.80% Burmanese
3.82225260 80.20% Italian_Apulia + 19.80% Russian_Ural
CommonSense
06-13-2021, 02:56 PM
Found this guy in my match list. He has a Turkish name and some of his matches do as well, but he matches plenty of Serbian and Bosniak individuals. He's also more northern shifted than Balkan Turks, but still exibits a small degree of Asian admixture. I think he might be mixed Balkan Turk + Bosniak. The kit number is there if you want to ask him for info.
Listed Y-DNA is: L-Y31947
Kit ED9772790
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 North_European 36.31
2 Atlantic_Med 24.03
3 Caucasus 23.28
4 Gedrosia 6.99
5 Southwest_Asian 5.06
6 Siberian 1.83
7 East_Asian 1.04
8 South_Asian 0.88
9 Northwest_African 0.58
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanians (Behar) 6.23
2 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 7.4
3 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 8.55
4 Hungarians (Behar) 13.54
5 O_Italian (Dodecad) 17.06
6 German (Dodecad) 18.64
7 N_Italian (Dodecad) 19.92
8 Greek (Dodecad) 20.66
9 TSI30 (Metspalu) 21.62
10 Tuscan (HGDP) 21.93
11 Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) 22.2
12 C_Italian (Dodecad) 22.29
13 North_Italian (HGDP) 23.06
14 French (Dodecad) 23.2
15 French (HGDP) 23.42
16 Dutch (Dodecad) 23.85
17 Kent (1000Genomes) 25.8
18 CEU30 (1000Genomes) 25.97
19 English (Dodecad) 26.15
20 Ukranians (Yunusbayev) 26.3
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 72% Hungarians (Behar) + 28% Turkish (Dodecad) @ 2.05
2 72.9% Hungarians (Behar) + 27.1% Turks (Behar) @ 2.25
3 64.2% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 35.8% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.39
4 77.8% Hungarians (Behar) + 22.2% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) @ 2.79
5 57.8% C_Italian (Dodecad) + 42.2% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.81
6 77.9% Hungarians (Behar) + 22.1% Assyrian (Dodecad) @ 2.93
7 77.6% Hungarians (Behar) + 22.4% Armenian (Dodecad) @ 3.1
8 76.2% Hungarians (Behar) + 23.8% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) @ 3.19
9 77.7% Hungarians (Behar) + 22.3% Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) @ 3.2
10 78.4% Hungarians (Behar) + 21.6% Iranian_Jews (Behar) @ 3.3
11 77.5% Hungarians (Behar) + 22.5% Georgia_Jews (Behar) @ 3.34
12 65.9% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 34.1% Russian (HGDP) @ 3.48
13 78.2% Hungarians (Behar) + 21.8% Iraq_Jews (Behar) @ 3.5
14 54.6% Swedish (Dodecad) + 45.4% Turkish (Dodecad) @ 3.51
15 65.2% German (Dodecad) + 34.8% Turkish (Dodecad) @ 3.53
16 77.4% Hungarians (Behar) + 22.6% Druze (HGDP) @ 3.59
17 66.2% German (Dodecad) + 33.8% Turks (Behar) @ 3.62
18 58.3% Tuscan (HGDP) + 41.7% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 3.71
19 78.1% Hungarians (Behar) + 21.9% Armenians (Behar) @ 3.75
20 75.1% Hungarians (Behar) + 24.9% Cypriots (Behar) @ 3.77
Kaspias
06-13-2021, 02:56 PM
Kardzhali.
Y: https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-S264/
MT: https://www.yfull.com/mtree/H7c/
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 26.05
2 North_European 24.89
3 Atlantic_Med 18.66
4 Southwest_Asian 9.99
5 Gedrosia 9.42
6 Siberian 4.45
7 East_Asian 4.41
8 Northwest_African 1.63
9 Southeast_Asian 0.42
10 South_Asian 0.06
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 14.1
2 Romanians (Behar) 15.18
3 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 15.42
4 O_Italian (Dodecad) 16.22
5 Greek (Dodecad) 16.39
6 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 19.18
7 C_Italian (Dodecad) 19.26
8 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 19.59
9 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 20.06
10 Sicilian (Dodecad) 20.34
11 Tuscan (HGDP) 20.87
12 TSI30 (Metspalu) 21.23
13 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 22.19
14 N_Italian (Dodecad) 22.88
15 Turkish (Dodecad) 23.84
16 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 23.86
17 Turks (Behar) 25.04
18 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 25.07
19 North_Italian (HGDP) 25.61
20 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 26.45
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 64.6% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 35.4% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 6.32
2 62.5% Turks (Behar) + 37.5% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 6.38
3 62.3% Turks (Behar) + 37.7% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 6.42
4 67.2% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 32.8% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 6.43
5 65.2% Romanians (Behar) + 34.8% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 6.56
6 61.2% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 38.8% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 6.56
7 63.5% Turkish (Dodecad) + 36.5% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 6.68
8 63.8% Turkish (Dodecad) + 36.2% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 6.82
9 65.7% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 34.3% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 6.83
10 76.9% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 23.1% Hazara (HGDP) @ 6.96
11 55.6% Turks (Behar) + 44.4% German (Dodecad) @ 6.96
12 72.3% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 27.7% Uzbeks (Behar) @ 7.27
13 65.5% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 34.5% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 7.34
14 57% Turkish (Dodecad) + 43% German (Dodecad) @ 7.54
15 58.6% Turks (Behar) + 41.4% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 7.57
16 51.6% Turks (Behar) + 48.4% Hungarians (Behar) @ 7.57
17 63.4% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 36.6% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 7.6
18 60.1% Morocco_Jews (Behar) + 39.9% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 7.61
19 52.1% Hungarians (Behar) + 47.9% Lebanese (Behar) @ 7.69
20 58.3% Hungarians (Behar) + 41.7% Iranian_Jews (Behar) @ 7.77
Distance to: X
4.23846670 Turk_Trakya
6.40892347 Turk_Deliorman
8.59671449 Turk_Makedonya
9.31025778 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
10.38395397 Bulgarian_Thrace
11.02086204 Moldovan_Gagauz
11.17515548 Bulgarian_East
11.65889789 Greek_Macedonia
11.67030419 Pomak_Greece
11.87232496 Greek_Peloponnese
12.11372362 Greek_Thessaloniki
12.11645988 Greek_Thrace
12.13137667 Greek_Thessaly
13.00952728 Bulgarian_Central
13.21436340 Pomak_Bulgaria
13.26754310 Macedonian_South
13.32446622 Greek_Central
13.66700040 Macedonian_Vardar
13.67688561 Albanian_Kosovo
13.72522495 Macedonian_Northeast&Skopje
13.73036052 Moldovan_South
13.83435217 Bulgarian_West
13.88450215 Greek_Athens
13.89885967 Albanian
14.00607368 Macedonian_Polog
Distance to: X
3.57334149 70.40% Bulgarian_East + 29.60% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
3.59097321 68.20% Bulgarian_Thrace + 31.80% Kipchak_DA179
3.93026973 69.20% Bulgarian_East + 30.80% Turkmen_Iran
4.02545121 76.00% Bulgarian_Thrace + 24.00% Uzbeki
4.09154948 66.60% Bulgarian_East + 33.40% Kipchak_DA179
4.09925406 74.40% Bulgarian_Thrace + 25.60% Uzbek
4.10052983 72.40% Bulgarian_Thrace + 27.60% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
4.10809258 69.60% Pomak_Greece + 30.40% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
4.11288529 74.80% Italian_Apulia + 25.20% Saka_Steppe_DA13
4.12186883 75.20% Bulgarian_Thrace + 24.80% Turkmen_Afghanistan
4.14069713 65.40% Bulgarian_Central + 34.60% Turkmen_Iran
4.17098543 64.20% Macedonian_Northeast&Skopje + 35.80% Turkmen_Iran
4.19982100 65.60% Macedonian_Northeast&Skopje + 34.40% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
4.20218871 65.20% Pomak_Bulgaria + 34.80% Turkmen_Iran
4.34312577 80.60% Bulgarian_Thrace + 19.40% Karluk_DA222
4.35952799 32.60% Bashkir_Central + 67.40% Italian_Apulia
4.38641647 64.00% Bulgarian_West + 36.00% Turkmen_Iran
4.39870569 63.20% Macedonian_East + 36.80% Turkmen_Iran
4.46238401 67.20% Bulgarian_Central + 32.80% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
4.46818290 57.00% Italian_Apulia + 43.00% Lipka_Tatar
4.47590967 68.40% Pomak_Greece + 31.60% Turkmen_Iran
4.47677050 71.20% Moldovan_Gagauz + 28.80% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
4.50548625 64.80% Greek_Thrace + 35.20% Kipchak_DA179
4.51060426 65.20% Macedonian_South + 34.80% Turkmen_Iran
4.51637111 80.00% Bulgarian_Thrace + 20.00% Karakhanid_DA204
CommonSense
06-13-2021, 02:57 PM
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Kaspias
06-13-2021, 03:24 PM
Found this guy in my match list. He has a Turkish name and some of his matches do as well, but he matches plenty of Serbian and Bosniak individuals. He's also more northern shifted than Balkan Turks, but still exibits a small degree of Asian admixture. I think he might be mixed Balkan Turk + Bosniak. The kit number is there if you want to ask him for info.
Listed Y-DNA is: L-Y31947
Kit ED9772790
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 North_European 36.31
2 Atlantic_Med 24.03
3 Caucasus 23.28
4 Gedrosia 6.99
5 Southwest_Asian 5.06
6 Siberian 1.83
7 East_Asian 1.04
8 South_Asian 0.88
9 Northwest_African 0.58
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanians (Behar) 6.23
2 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 7.4
3 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 8.55
4 Hungarians (Behar) 13.54
5 O_Italian (Dodecad) 17.06
6 German (Dodecad) 18.64
7 N_Italian (Dodecad) 19.92
8 Greek (Dodecad) 20.66
9 TSI30 (Metspalu) 21.62
10 Tuscan (HGDP) 21.93
11 Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) 22.2
12 C_Italian (Dodecad) 22.29
13 North_Italian (HGDP) 23.06
14 French (Dodecad) 23.2
15 French (HGDP) 23.42
16 Dutch (Dodecad) 23.85
17 Kent (1000Genomes) 25.8
18 CEU30 (1000Genomes) 25.97
19 English (Dodecad) 26.15
20 Ukranians (Yunusbayev) 26.3
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 72% Hungarians (Behar) + 28% Turkish (Dodecad) @ 2.05
2 72.9% Hungarians (Behar) + 27.1% Turks (Behar) @ 2.25
3 64.2% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 35.8% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.39
4 77.8% Hungarians (Behar) + 22.2% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) @ 2.79
5 57.8% C_Italian (Dodecad) + 42.2% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.81
6 77.9% Hungarians (Behar) + 22.1% Assyrian (Dodecad) @ 2.93
7 77.6% Hungarians (Behar) + 22.4% Armenian (Dodecad) @ 3.1
8 76.2% Hungarians (Behar) + 23.8% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) @ 3.19
9 77.7% Hungarians (Behar) + 22.3% Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) @ 3.2
10 78.4% Hungarians (Behar) + 21.6% Iranian_Jews (Behar) @ 3.3
11 77.5% Hungarians (Behar) + 22.5% Georgia_Jews (Behar) @ 3.34
12 65.9% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 34.1% Russian (HGDP) @ 3.48
13 78.2% Hungarians (Behar) + 21.8% Iraq_Jews (Behar) @ 3.5
14 54.6% Swedish (Dodecad) + 45.4% Turkish (Dodecad) @ 3.51
15 65.2% German (Dodecad) + 34.8% Turkish (Dodecad) @ 3.53
16 77.4% Hungarians (Behar) + 22.6% Druze (HGDP) @ 3.59
17 66.2% German (Dodecad) + 33.8% Turks (Behar) @ 3.62
18 58.3% Tuscan (HGDP) + 41.7% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 3.71
19 78.1% Hungarians (Behar) + 21.9% Armenians (Behar) @ 3.75
20 75.1% Hungarians (Behar) + 24.9% Cypriots (Behar) @ 3.77
The guy is from the unpublished Turkish article which I have been talking about recently. Matches indicate half Sandzak Muslim and half Crimean Turkish(Yalıboylu (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yaliboylu)) origin.
CommonSense
06-13-2021, 03:50 PM
The guy is from the unpublished Turkish article which I have been talking about recently. Matches indicate half Sandzak Muslim and half Crimean Turkish(Yalıboylu (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yaliboylu)) origin.
If he's got ancestry from Sandžak, it must be from the western part of the region like Priboj, because he doesn't match many Albanians.
Kaspias
06-13-2021, 04:01 PM
If he's got ancestry from Sandak, it must be from the western part of the region like Priboj, because he doesn't match many Albanians.
Bingo! His X match is from Gorajde, and one autosomal match is from Pljevlja if I recall correctly. It has been more than three years since I talk with him.
Kardzhali.
Y: https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-S264/
MT: https://www.yfull.com/mtree/H7c/
His YDNA is extremely Western, lots of English, Irish and Germans on the list.
Is Kardzhali supposed to be the most Mongoloid or Turkic place in the region?
Kaspias
06-13-2021, 05:29 PM
His YDNA is extremely Western, lots of English, Irish and Germans on the list.
Is Kardzhali supposed to be the most Mongoloid or Turkic place in the region?
The clade looks to be Thracian-related so supposedly came from the native Balkan admixture. I have to also note the presence within Finns and Tatars, but this would be a small odd if you ask me.
Kardzhali has a dense Turkish population, therefore overrepresented in terms of DNA when considering it is just one city, I have got 60 samples from there. In terms of averages, it would have the most East Eurasian score which is being around 8%. Individuals I posted with more than 10% EE also were usually from Kardzhali. So indeed some concentration is present there, but in overall, the amount is not something radical as the total average of Balkan Turks would be between 6 and 7 already. And there are a few more regions in which these individuals with +10% EE are present.
Besides genetics, Kardzhali is historically(post-Ottoman) almost 100% Turkish city.
https://i.ibb.co/bJZ6FVr/Trakya.png
Thracian
06-13-2021, 06:58 PM
I found a few Turks from Kardzhali and compared with mine. Not sure you had them or not, did not check.
Removed Balkan Turks.
Distance to: Thracian
1.77113799 81.00% Greek_Thrace + 19.00% Tajik_Lowland
1.84705625 80.60% Greek_Thessaly + 19.40% Tajik_Lowland
2.00676877 82.00% Greek_Thessaly + 18.00% Tajik_Herat
2.02666992 80.40% Greek_Thrace + 19.60% Tajik_Mountain
2.04102267 83.40% Greek_Thrace + 16.60% Pamiri_Ishkashim
2.05010832 80.20% Greek_Thessaly + 19.80% Tajik_Mountain
2.12592643 86.20% Greek_Thrace + 13.80% Kho
2.18427346 76.00% Albanian_Kosovo + 24.00% Turkmen_TM
2.23482179 82.20% Greek_Thrace + 17.80% Pamiri_Shughnan
2.24706238 84.40% Greek_Thessaly + 15.60% Pashtun_Kandahar
2.25677546 84.60% Greek_Thrace + 15.40% Pashtun_Kandahar
2.25770844 24.20% Iranian_Khorasan + 75.80% Macedonian_South
2.27098678 82.40% Greek_Thrace + 17.60% Tajik_Herat
2.27339401 85.80% Greek_Thrace + 14.20% Tajik_Panjshir&Kapisa
2.27428889 85.60% Greek_Thessaly + 14.40% Tajik_Panjshir&Kapisa
2.28228699 79.60% Greek_Thessaly + 20.40% Yaghnobi_Tajikistan
2.28918595 81.80% Greek_Thrace + 18.20% Pamiri_Rushan
2.30392772 78.20% Albanian_Kosovo + 21.80% Tajik_Herat
2.31228562 79.80% Greek_Thrace + 20.20% Yaghnobi_Tajikistan
2.31274919 84.80% Greek_Thrace + 15.20% Tajik_Kabul
2.36394340 84.60% Greek_Thessaly + 15.40% Tajik_Kabul
2.36675528 86.20% Greek_Thessaly + 13.80% Kho
2.37046169 86.00% Greek_Thrace + 14.00% Pashtun_Uthmankhel
2.37094580 80.00% Albanian + 20.00% Pamiri_Ishkashim
2.37999186 23.20% Iranian_Fars + 76.80% Macedonian_Vardar
Distance to: Kircaali_1
2.31995357 60.20% Greek_Izmir + 39.80% Tatar_Mishar
2.41209600 59.60% Greek_Rhodes + 40.40% Russian_Ural
2.44089113 65.60% Greek_Fournoi + 34.40% Russian_Ural
2.50976321 60.80% Greek_Kos + 39.20% Russian_Ural
2.64096264 66.80% Greek_Izmir + 33.20% Komi
2.65143769 64.80% Greek_Crete + 35.20% Russian_Ural
2.72815893 72.20% Greek_Foca + 27.80% Komi
2.80045903 66.00% Greek_Foca + 34.00% Tatar_Mishar
2.86780721 67.00% Greek_Izmir + 33.00% Russian_Ural
2.87427421 58.80% Greek_Fournoi + 41.20% Tatar_Mishar
2.91713407 58.00% Greek_Crete + 42.00% Tatar_Mishar
2.94658540 67.60% Moldovan_South + 32.40% Turk_Northwest
3.04637416 65.60% Greek_Foca + 34.40% Tatar_Kazan
3.04687035 58.00% Greek_Rhodes + 42.00% Mordovian
3.06882006 71.40% Greek_Lemnos + 28.60% Russian_Ural
3.06944639 23.00% Besermyan_Udmurtia + 77.00% Greek_Peloponnese
3.07393380 65.60% Greek_Fournoi + 34.40% Komi
3.12001997 53.40% Greek_Icaria + 46.60% Tatar_Mishar
3.12619130 71.40% Greek_Lemnos + 28.60% Komi
3.12742841 70.80% Moldovan_South + 29.20% Turk_Southwest
3.12879388 62.20% Greek_Rhodes + 37.80% Russian_Northern_Dvina
3.13727242 59.20% Greek_Kos + 40.80% Mordovian
3.14189038 22.20% Chuvash + 77.80% Greek_Peloponnese
3.14208112 29.20% Chuvash + 70.80% Greek_Foca
3.15660669 88.60% Bulgarian_Thrace + 11.40% Tatar_Zabolotniye
Distance to: Kircaali_2
2.05552611 60.40% Pomak_Bulgaria + 39.60% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
2.16560774 60.40% Moldovan_South + 39.60% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
2.22741014 60.60% Bulgarian_Central + 39.40% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
2.23119573 59.80% Bulgarian_West + 40.20% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
2.49774837 59.00% Romanian + 41.00% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
2.58758526 62.60% Pomak_Greece + 37.40% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
2.81282715 56.20% Montenegrin + 43.80% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
2.97743857 63.00% Bulgarian_East + 37.00% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
3.00478260 26.60% Finnish_West + 73.40% Turk_Northwest
3.02208001 64.80% Bulgarian_East + 35.20% Uzbek
3.06790841 30.00% Finnish_West + 70.00% Turk_Southwest
3.11740278 66.00% Bulgarian_East + 34.00% Turkmen_Afghanistan
3.13072908 67.40% Bulgarian_East + 32.60% Uzbeki
3.16416656 62.20% Greek_Macedonia + 37.80% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
3.25636681 64.00% Moldovan_Gagauz + 36.00% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
3.26075056 64.00% Greek_Macedonia + 36.00% Uzbek
3.30020592 55.60% Montenegrin + 44.40% Turkmen_Iran
3.32485753 65.40% Greek_Macedonia + 34.60% Turkmen_Afghanistan
3.33356389 53.20% Serb + 46.80% Turkmen_Iran
3.34185835 66.60% Greek_Macedonia + 33.40% Uzbeki
3.50529999 60.00% Moldovan_South + 40.00% Turkmen_Iran
3.54800777 64.80% Pomak_Greece + 35.20% Uzbek
3.56198853 58.80% Macedonian_Northeast&Skopje + 41.20% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
3.57333580 67.20% Moldovan_Gagauz + 32.80% Turkmen_Afghanistan
3.57794093 42.20% Bashkir_Central + 57.80% Greek_Lemnos
Distance to: Kircaali_3
1.59895382 30.60% Besermyan_Udmurtia + 69.40% Greek_Lemnos
1.79839928 33.00% Bashkir_North + 67.00% Greek_Lemnos
1.93267638 72.20% Greek_Lemnos + 27.80% Udmurt
1.93923175 42.80% Hungarian_Transylvania+Székely + 57.20% Turk_Northwest
2.04510887 47.20% Hungarian_Transylvania+Székely + 52.80% Turk_Southwest
2.21552101 65.40% Greek_Lemnos + 34.60% Tatar_Kazan
2.22855229 72.80% Bulgarian_East + 27.20% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
2.31188809 29.40% Chuvash + 70.60% Greek_Lemnos
2.32369808 74.20% Moldovan_Gagauz + 25.80% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
2.33696074 38.20% Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest + 61.80% Turk_Northwest
2.35858284 37.80% Hungarian + 62.20% Turk_Northwest
2.38179976 72.00% Greek_Macedonia + 28.00% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
2.40532973 36.80% Hungarian_Alföld + 63.20% Turk_Northwest
2.44065449 73.00% Greek_Lemnos + 27.00% Mari
2.48556515 31.80% German + 68.20% Turk_Northwest
2.52151397 42.00% Hungarian + 58.00% Turk_Southwest
2.53017879 41.00% Hungarian_Alföld + 59.00% Turk_Southwest
2.54765514 42.40% Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest + 57.60% Turk_Southwest
2.55919955 68.20% Macedonian_Northeast&Skopje + 31.80% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
2.58077705 52.20% Hungarian_Transylvania+Székely + 47.80% Turk_South
2.64628724 33.20% Czech + 66.80% Turk_Northwest
2.65088346 30.60% Besermyan_Udmurtia + 69.40% Italian_Apulia
2.67034071 36.60% Slovenian + 63.40% Turk_Northwest
2.67545391 32.40% Bashkir_Central + 67.60% Greek_Lemnos
2.68773220 77.00% Bulgarian_Thrace + 23.00% Turkmen_Afghanistan
Distance to: Kircaali_4
2.13497114 58.80% Greek_Cypriot + 41.20% Russian_Ural
2.59028812 52.20% Greek_Cypriot + 47.80% Tatar_Mishar
2.61494828 62.80% Greek_Cypriot + 37.20% Veps
2.67836500 61.20% Greek_Cypriot + 38.80% Russian_Northern_Dvina
2.68450562 66.20% Greek_Kos + 33.80% Komi
2.75296922 70.40% Greek_Crete + 29.60% Komi
2.78345680 65.00% Greek_Rhodes + 35.00% Komi
2.79470029 60.40% Greek_Kos + 39.60% Tatar_Mishar
2.84070199 59.00% Greek_Rhodes + 41.00% Tatar_Mishar
2.90341766 36.20% Russian_Ural + 63.80% Turk_Cyprus
2.93420990 65.00% Greek_Crete + 35.00% Tatar_Mishar
2.93952773 67.60% Turk_Cyprus + 32.40% Veps
2.95195035 71.00% Greek_Fournoi + 29.00% Komi
2.99978314 35.20% Finnish_East + 64.80% Greek_Cypriot
3.00765091 34.00% Russian_Northern_Dvina + 66.00% Turk_Cyprus
3.02201954 34.00% North_Russian + 66.00% Turk_Cyprus
3.02916005 57.40% Greek_Cypriot + 42.60% Mordovian
3.03778548 63.40% Greek_Cypriot + 36.60% Karelian
3.04743599 31.20% Chuvash + 68.80% Greek_Crete
3.05677201 29.60% Chuvash + 70.40% Greek_Izmir
3.06850810 59.60% Greek_Cypriot + 40.40% Russian_Kostroma
3.07724903 61.20% Greek_Cypriot + 38.80% North_Russian
3.07939055 30.60% Chuvash + 69.40% Greek_Fournoi
3.08919309 32.00% Karelian + 68.00% Turk_Cyprus
3.10430303 30.60% Finnish_East + 69.40% Turk_Cyprus
Distance to: Kircaali_5
2.29907930 51.00% Greek_Kos + 49.00% Tatar_Kazan
2.34620438 50.00% Greek_Rhodes + 50.00% Tatar_Kazan
2.39947817 44.20% Greek_Cypriot + 55.80% Tatar_Kazan
2.45162882 51.00% Tatar_Kazan + 49.00% Turk_Cyprus
2.56338183 43.00% Bashkir_North + 57.00% Greek_Fournoi
2.68005584 43.60% Bashkir_North + 56.40% Greek_Crete
2.73852020 54.80% Greek_Crete + 45.20% Tatar_Kazan
2.84196210 42.00% Bashkir_Central + 58.00% Greek_Izmir
2.85062408 28.20% Polish + 71.80% Turk_Northwest
2.89770713 24.40% Estonian + 75.60% Turk_Northwest
2.89880588 26.00% North_Russian + 74.00% Turk_Northwest
2.90539845 55.40% Greek_Fournoi + 44.60% Tatar_Kazan
2.91551189 47.20% Bashkir_North + 52.80% Greek_Kos
2.91671887 28.00% Russian + 72.00% Turk_Northwest
2.92451181 24.20% Finnish_West + 75.80% Turk_Northwest
2.93893690 27.60% Polish_Warmia-Masuria + 72.40% Turk_Northwest
2.98542965 70.40% Turk_Northwest + 29.60% Ukrainian
2.98806328 65.60% Turk_Northwest + 34.40% Ukrainian_Ivano-Frankivsk
3.05153003 42.20% Bashkir_North + 57.80% Greek_Izmir
3.05337635 27.60% Belorussian + 72.40% Turk_Northwest
3.09108842 29.20% Russian_Ryazan + 70.80% Turk_Northwest
3.09281053 29.20% Sorb_Lusatia + 70.80% Turk_Northwest
3.09816140 27.40% Russian_Kostroma + 72.60% Turk_Northwest
3.10164167 27.00% Belarusian_Minsk + 73.00% Turk_Northwest
3.10219945 48.40% Bashkir_North + 51.60% Greek_Rhodes
Distance to: Kircaali_6
2.08131701 59.80% Greek_Foca + 40.20% Lipka_Tatar
2.40435769 63.40% Greek_Central + 36.60% Lipka_Tatar
2.61073497 62.20% Greek_Athens + 37.80% Lipka_Tatar
2.61984753 82.20% Bulgarian_Thrace + 17.80% Nogai_Stavropol
2.67480488 83.20% Bulgarian_Thrace + 16.80% Karakalpak
2.67853593 80.40% Bulgarian_Thrace + 19.60% Uzbeki
2.69680714 79.60% Bulgarian_Thrace + 20.40% Turkmen_Afghanistan
2.77979248 84.00% Bulgarian_Thrace + 16.00% Uyghur
2.78238656 86.00% Bulgarian_Thrace + 14.00% Kyrgyz_Pamir
2.89692404 85.40% Bulgarian_Thrace + 14.60% Kazakh
2.91705319 72.20% Bulgarian_Thrace + 27.80% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
2.93264605 46.00% Serb + 54.00% Turk_Northwest
2.95494061 86.40% Bulgarian_Thrace + 13.60% Kyrgyz
2.95950988 50.40% Montenegrin + 49.60% Turk_Northwest
2.96626434 31.40% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe + 68.60% Greek_Thessaloniki
3.00876822 66.60% Greek_Peloponnese + 33.40% Lipka_Tatar
3.02328423 70.20% Macedonian_Northeast&Skopje + 29.80% Turkmen_Iran
3.03073546 79.20% Bulgarian_Thrace + 20.80% Uzbek
3.03330254 54.60% Romanian + 45.40% Turk_Northwest
3.03446210 50.20% Serb + 49.80% Turk_Southwest
3.05313865 83.20% Bulgarian_Thrace + 16.80% Nogai_Astrakhan
3.07437127 77.60% Greek_Thessaloniki + 22.40% Uzbeki
3.11829109 85.20% Bulgarian_Thrace + 14.80% Hazara
3.14857798 76.80% Greek_Thessaloniki + 23.20% Turkmen_Afghanistan
3.15666281 32.20% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe + 67.80% Greek_Peloponnese
Distance to: Kircaali_7
1.53862671 63.20% Slovenian + 36.80% Turk_Southeast
1.70483792 28.80% Azeri_Jew + 71.20% Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest
1.76908707 29.20% Azeri_Jew + 70.80% Hungarian
1.81942750 28.60% Assyrian_North + 71.40% Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest
1.82249928 71.00% Hungarian + 29.00% Mandean
1.83324594 21.40% Iranian_Fars + 78.60% Serb
1.84065132 28.80% Assyrian_South + 71.20% Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest
1.85773520 71.60% Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest + 28.40% Mandean
1.86685323 29.20% Assyrian_North + 70.80% Hungarian
1.88748041 29.20% Assyrian_South + 70.80% Hungarian
1.90373222 35.20% Azeri_Jew + 64.80% Czech
1.90418450 33.20% Turkmen_Iraq + 66.80% Slovenian
1.92082007 65.20% Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest + 34.80% Turk_Southeast
1.92393866 30.60% Azeri_Jew + 69.40% Hungarian_Alföld
1.93441633 35.20% Assyrian_South + 64.80% Czech
1.94150050 69.80% Hungarian_Alföld + 30.20% Mandean
1.94942468 30.40% Mandean + 69.60% Slovenian
1.96577815 65.00% Czech + 35.00% Mandean
1.98506856 71.60% Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest + 28.40% Kurdish_Jew
1.98752724 28.80% Assyrian_West + 71.20% Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest
1.99792283 35.20% Assyrian_North + 64.80% Czech
2.00507490 30.40% Assyrian_North + 69.60% Hungarian_Alföld
2.02487251 30.60% Assyrian_South + 69.40% Hungarian_Alföld
2.02871229 71.20% Hungarian + 28.80% Kurdish_Jew
2.03178274 29.20% Assyrian_West + 70.80% Hungarian
Distance to: Kircaali_8
2.41286146 54.40% Italian_Liguria + 45.60% Nogai
2.54733144 55.60% Italian_Emilia + 44.40% Nogai
2.55471770 56.60% Italian_Tuscany + 43.40% Nogai
2.81216061 76.80% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain + 23.20% Italian_Aosta_Valley
2.84450705 64.60% Greek_Foca + 35.40% Lipka_Tatar
2.84784421 59.60% Italian_Romagna + 40.40% Nogai
2.85463399 74.40% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain + 25.60% Italian_Trentino
2.94665273 77.60% Greek_Thessaloniki + 22.40% Turkmen_Afghanistan
2.97238460 75.20% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain + 24.80% Swiss_Italian
2.97977692 53.60% Italian_Piedmont + 46.40% Nogai
3.00206264 78.60% Greek_Thessaloniki + 21.40% Uzbeki
3.00299222 70.60% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain + 29.40% Italian_Friuli_VG
3.00927581 79.80% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain + 20.20% French_Northeast
3.07859146 82.00% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain + 18.00% Spanish_Cantabria
3.08196416 80.40% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain + 19.60% French_North
3.08776430 52.20% Italian_Lombardy + 47.80% Nogai
3.12583434 81.00% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain + 19.00% Spanish_Catalonia
3.12854907 67.20% Albanian_Kosovo + 32.80% Nogai
3.13304107 79.00% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain + 21.00% Spanish_Baleares
3.14375435 77.20% Greek_Thessaloniki + 22.80% Uzbek
3.14537701 80.40% Bulgarian_Thrace + 19.60% Turkmen_Afghanistan
3.15956315 71.40% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain + 28.60% Italian_Veneto
3.18850411 21.40% Bavarian_German + 78.60% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
3.20947048 84.60% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain + 15.40% French_Southwest
3.21565010 55.20% Italian_Veneto + 44.80% Nogai
Removed Tatars -and Balkan Turks- because except me, No:7 and No:2 all of them scored too much Tatar which is very unlikely and a clear shift.
Target: Thracian
Distance: 1.3627% / 1.36265763 | ADC: 0.25x
46.6 Greek_Thrace
36.8 Bulgarian_Thrace
8.5 Tajik_Herat
4.9 Yaghnobi_Tajikistan
1.1 Haryana_Ror
1.0 Yukagir
0.6 Italian_Lazio
0.5 Cambodians
Target: Kircaali_1
Distance: 1.5091% / 1.50912274 | ADC: 0.25x
48.9 Pomak_Greece
30.5 Moldovan_Gagauz
14.3 Turk_Northwest
1.8 Algerian
1.5 Nogai
1.4 Yukagir
1.1 BONDA
0.5 Tatar_Zabolotniye
Target: Kircaali_2
Distance: 1.6047% / 1.60467048 | ADC: 0.25x
31.7 Bulgarian_East
30.4 Lipka_Tatar
13.2 Turk_Northwest
7.6 Moldovan_Gagauz
7.3 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
6.9 Yaghnobi_Tajikistan
2.9 Saudi
Target: Kircaali_3
Distance: 1.3367% / 1.33671397 | ADC: 0.25x
56.9 Moldovan_Gagauz
15.9 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
15.1 Bulgarian_Thrace
9.5 Turk_Northwest
1.2 Tatar_Zabolotniye
0.9 Yukagir
0.5 Bnei_Menashe_Jews
Target: Kircaali_4
Distance: 1.6265% / 1.62647980 | ADC: 0.25x
51.4 Pomak_Greece
23.4 Turk_Northwest
17.7 Bulgarian_Thrace
5.1 Kuwait2
2.4 Yukagir
Target: Kircaali_5
Distance: 1.5779% / 1.57794385 | ADC: 0.25x
39.2 Pomak_Greece
36.0 Turk_Northwest
20.4 Lipka_Tatar
3.3 Bashkir_Central
1.1 Algerian
Target: Kircaali_6
Distance: 1.8502% / 1.85023916 | ADC: 0.25x
58.5 Bulgarian_Thrace
18.6 Lipka_Tatar
14.4 Turk_Northwest
4.1 Greek_Thrace
3.6 Nogai
0.8 Japanese
Target: Kircaali_7
Distance: 1.9565% / 1.95652127 | ADC: 0.25x
56.8 Pomak_Bulgaria
26.9 Moldovan_South
8.8 Pamiri_Shughnan
3.5 Pamiri_Rushan
1.6 Yaghnobi_Tajikistan
1.3 Kuwait2
1.0 Icelandic
0.1 Japanese
Target: Kircaali_8
Distance: 1.7916% / 1.79159385 | ADC: 0.25x
43.0 Bulgarian_Thrace
15.6 Nogai
13.8 Turk_Northwest
13.6 Italian_Emilia
9.0 Lipka_Tatar
4.7 Albanian
0.3 Italian_Lazio
Kaspias
06-13-2021, 07:28 PM
I found a few Turks from Kardzhali and compared with mine. Not sure you had them or not, did not check.
Removed Balkan Turks.
Distance to: Thracian
1.77113799 81.00% Greek_Thrace + 19.00% Tajik_Lowland
1.84705625 80.60% Greek_Thessaly + 19.40% Tajik_Lowland
2.00676877 82.00% Greek_Thessaly + 18.00% Tajik_Herat
2.02666992 80.40% Greek_Thrace + 19.60% Tajik_Mountain
2.04102267 83.40% Greek_Thrace + 16.60% Pamiri_Ishkashim
2.05010832 80.20% Greek_Thessaly + 19.80% Tajik_Mountain
2.12592643 86.20% Greek_Thrace + 13.80% Kho
2.18427346 76.00% Albanian_Kosovo + 24.00% Turkmen_TM
2.23482179 82.20% Greek_Thrace + 17.80% Pamiri_Shughnan
2.24706238 84.40% Greek_Thessaly + 15.60% Pashtun_Kandahar
2.25677546 84.60% Greek_Thrace + 15.40% Pashtun_Kandahar
2.25770844 24.20% Iranian_Khorasan + 75.80% Macedonian_South
2.27098678 82.40% Greek_Thrace + 17.60% Tajik_Herat
2.27339401 85.80% Greek_Thrace + 14.20% Tajik_Panjshir&Kapisa
2.27428889 85.60% Greek_Thessaly + 14.40% Tajik_Panjshir&Kapisa
2.28228699 79.60% Greek_Thessaly + 20.40% Yaghnobi_Tajikistan
2.28918595 81.80% Greek_Thrace + 18.20% Pamiri_Rushan
2.30392772 78.20% Albanian_Kosovo + 21.80% Tajik_Herat
2.31228562 79.80% Greek_Thrace + 20.20% Yaghnobi_Tajikistan
2.31274919 84.80% Greek_Thrace + 15.20% Tajik_Kabul
2.36394340 84.60% Greek_Thessaly + 15.40% Tajik_Kabul
2.36675528 86.20% Greek_Thessaly + 13.80% Kho
2.37046169 86.00% Greek_Thrace + 14.00% Pashtun_Uthmankhel
2.37094580 80.00% Albanian + 20.00% Pamiri_Ishkashim
2.37999186 23.20% Iranian_Fars + 76.80% Macedonian_Vardar
Distance to: Kircaali_1
2.31995357 60.20% Greek_Izmir + 39.80% Tatar_Mishar
2.41209600 59.60% Greek_Rhodes + 40.40% Russian_Ural
2.44089113 65.60% Greek_Fournoi + 34.40% Russian_Ural
2.50976321 60.80% Greek_Kos + 39.20% Russian_Ural
2.64096264 66.80% Greek_Izmir + 33.20% Komi
2.65143769 64.80% Greek_Crete + 35.20% Russian_Ural
2.72815893 72.20% Greek_Foca + 27.80% Komi
2.80045903 66.00% Greek_Foca + 34.00% Tatar_Mishar
2.86780721 67.00% Greek_Izmir + 33.00% Russian_Ural
2.87427421 58.80% Greek_Fournoi + 41.20% Tatar_Mishar
2.91713407 58.00% Greek_Crete + 42.00% Tatar_Mishar
2.94658540 67.60% Moldovan_South + 32.40% Turk_Northwest
3.04637416 65.60% Greek_Foca + 34.40% Tatar_Kazan
3.04687035 58.00% Greek_Rhodes + 42.00% Mordovian
3.06882006 71.40% Greek_Lemnos + 28.60% Russian_Ural
3.06944639 23.00% Besermyan_Udmurtia + 77.00% Greek_Peloponnese
3.07393380 65.60% Greek_Fournoi + 34.40% Komi
3.12001997 53.40% Greek_Icaria + 46.60% Tatar_Mishar
3.12619130 71.40% Greek_Lemnos + 28.60% Komi
3.12742841 70.80% Moldovan_South + 29.20% Turk_Southwest
3.12879388 62.20% Greek_Rhodes + 37.80% Russian_Northern_Dvina
3.13727242 59.20% Greek_Kos + 40.80% Mordovian
3.14189038 22.20% Chuvash + 77.80% Greek_Peloponnese
3.14208112 29.20% Chuvash + 70.80% Greek_Foca
3.15660669 88.60% Bulgarian_Thrace + 11.40% Tatar_Zabolotniye
Distance to: Kircaali_2
2.05552611 60.40% Pomak_Bulgaria + 39.60% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
2.16560774 60.40% Moldovan_South + 39.60% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
2.22741014 60.60% Bulgarian_Central + 39.40% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
2.23119573 59.80% Bulgarian_West + 40.20% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
2.49774837 59.00% Romanian + 41.00% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
2.58758526 62.60% Pomak_Greece + 37.40% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
2.81282715 56.20% Montenegrin + 43.80% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
2.97743857 63.00% Bulgarian_East + 37.00% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
3.00478260 26.60% Finnish_West + 73.40% Turk_Northwest
3.02208001 64.80% Bulgarian_East + 35.20% Uzbek
3.06790841 30.00% Finnish_West + 70.00% Turk_Southwest
3.11740278 66.00% Bulgarian_East + 34.00% Turkmen_Afghanistan
3.13072908 67.40% Bulgarian_East + 32.60% Uzbeki
3.16416656 62.20% Greek_Macedonia + 37.80% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
3.25636681 64.00% Moldovan_Gagauz + 36.00% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
3.26075056 64.00% Greek_Macedonia + 36.00% Uzbek
3.30020592 55.60% Montenegrin + 44.40% Turkmen_Iran
3.32485753 65.40% Greek_Macedonia + 34.60% Turkmen_Afghanistan
3.33356389 53.20% Serb + 46.80% Turkmen_Iran
3.34185835 66.60% Greek_Macedonia + 33.40% Uzbeki
3.50529999 60.00% Moldovan_South + 40.00% Turkmen_Iran
3.54800777 64.80% Pomak_Greece + 35.20% Uzbek
3.56198853 58.80% Macedonian_Northeast&Skopje + 41.20% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
3.57333580 67.20% Moldovan_Gagauz + 32.80% Turkmen_Afghanistan
3.57794093 42.20% Bashkir_Central + 57.80% Greek_Lemnos
Distance to: Kircaali_3
1.59895382 30.60% Besermyan_Udmurtia + 69.40% Greek_Lemnos
1.79839928 33.00% Bashkir_North + 67.00% Greek_Lemnos
1.93267638 72.20% Greek_Lemnos + 27.80% Udmurt
1.93923175 42.80% Hungarian_Transylvania+Székely + 57.20% Turk_Northwest
2.04510887 47.20% Hungarian_Transylvania+Székely + 52.80% Turk_Southwest
2.21552101 65.40% Greek_Lemnos + 34.60% Tatar_Kazan
2.22855229 72.80% Bulgarian_East + 27.20% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
2.31188809 29.40% Chuvash + 70.60% Greek_Lemnos
2.32369808 74.20% Moldovan_Gagauz + 25.80% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
2.33696074 38.20% Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest + 61.80% Turk_Northwest
2.35858284 37.80% Hungarian + 62.20% Turk_Northwest
2.38179976 72.00% Greek_Macedonia + 28.00% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
2.40532973 36.80% Hungarian_Alföld + 63.20% Turk_Northwest
2.44065449 73.00% Greek_Lemnos + 27.00% Mari
2.48556515 31.80% German + 68.20% Turk_Northwest
2.52151397 42.00% Hungarian + 58.00% Turk_Southwest
2.53017879 41.00% Hungarian_Alföld + 59.00% Turk_Southwest
2.54765514 42.40% Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest + 57.60% Turk_Southwest
2.55919955 68.20% Macedonian_Northeast&Skopje + 31.80% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
2.58077705 52.20% Hungarian_Transylvania+Székely + 47.80% Turk_South
2.64628724 33.20% Czech + 66.80% Turk_Northwest
2.65088346 30.60% Besermyan_Udmurtia + 69.40% Italian_Apulia
2.67034071 36.60% Slovenian + 63.40% Turk_Northwest
2.67545391 32.40% Bashkir_Central + 67.60% Greek_Lemnos
2.68773220 77.00% Bulgarian_Thrace + 23.00% Turkmen_Afghanistan
Distance to: Kircaali_4
2.13497114 58.80% Greek_Cypriot + 41.20% Russian_Ural
2.59028812 52.20% Greek_Cypriot + 47.80% Tatar_Mishar
2.61494828 62.80% Greek_Cypriot + 37.20% Veps
2.67836500 61.20% Greek_Cypriot + 38.80% Russian_Northern_Dvina
2.68450562 66.20% Greek_Kos + 33.80% Komi
2.75296922 70.40% Greek_Crete + 29.60% Komi
2.78345680 65.00% Greek_Rhodes + 35.00% Komi
2.79470029 60.40% Greek_Kos + 39.60% Tatar_Mishar
2.84070199 59.00% Greek_Rhodes + 41.00% Tatar_Mishar
2.90341766 36.20% Russian_Ural + 63.80% Turk_Cyprus
2.93420990 65.00% Greek_Crete + 35.00% Tatar_Mishar
2.93952773 67.60% Turk_Cyprus + 32.40% Veps
2.95195035 71.00% Greek_Fournoi + 29.00% Komi
2.99978314 35.20% Finnish_East + 64.80% Greek_Cypriot
3.00765091 34.00% Russian_Northern_Dvina + 66.00% Turk_Cyprus
3.02201954 34.00% North_Russian + 66.00% Turk_Cyprus
3.02916005 57.40% Greek_Cypriot + 42.60% Mordovian
3.03778548 63.40% Greek_Cypriot + 36.60% Karelian
3.04743599 31.20% Chuvash + 68.80% Greek_Crete
3.05677201 29.60% Chuvash + 70.40% Greek_Izmir
3.06850810 59.60% Greek_Cypriot + 40.40% Russian_Kostroma
3.07724903 61.20% Greek_Cypriot + 38.80% North_Russian
3.07939055 30.60% Chuvash + 69.40% Greek_Fournoi
3.08919309 32.00% Karelian + 68.00% Turk_Cyprus
3.10430303 30.60% Finnish_East + 69.40% Turk_Cyprus
Distance to: Kircaali_5
2.29907930 51.00% Greek_Kos + 49.00% Tatar_Kazan
2.34620438 50.00% Greek_Rhodes + 50.00% Tatar_Kazan
2.39947817 44.20% Greek_Cypriot + 55.80% Tatar_Kazan
2.45162882 51.00% Tatar_Kazan + 49.00% Turk_Cyprus
2.56338183 43.00% Bashkir_North + 57.00% Greek_Fournoi
2.68005584 43.60% Bashkir_North + 56.40% Greek_Crete
2.73852020 54.80% Greek_Crete + 45.20% Tatar_Kazan
2.84196210 42.00% Bashkir_Central + 58.00% Greek_Izmir
2.85062408 28.20% Polish + 71.80% Turk_Northwest
2.89770713 24.40% Estonian + 75.60% Turk_Northwest
2.89880588 26.00% North_Russian + 74.00% Turk_Northwest
2.90539845 55.40% Greek_Fournoi + 44.60% Tatar_Kazan
2.91551189 47.20% Bashkir_North + 52.80% Greek_Kos
2.91671887 28.00% Russian + 72.00% Turk_Northwest
2.92451181 24.20% Finnish_West + 75.80% Turk_Northwest
2.93893690 27.60% Polish_Warmia-Masuria + 72.40% Turk_Northwest
2.98542965 70.40% Turk_Northwest + 29.60% Ukrainian
2.98806328 65.60% Turk_Northwest + 34.40% Ukrainian_Ivano-Frankivsk
3.05153003 42.20% Bashkir_North + 57.80% Greek_Izmir
3.05337635 27.60% Belorussian + 72.40% Turk_Northwest
3.09108842 29.20% Russian_Ryazan + 70.80% Turk_Northwest
3.09281053 29.20% Sorb_Lusatia + 70.80% Turk_Northwest
3.09816140 27.40% Russian_Kostroma + 72.60% Turk_Northwest
3.10164167 27.00% Belarusian_Minsk + 73.00% Turk_Northwest
3.10219945 48.40% Bashkir_North + 51.60% Greek_Rhodes
Distance to: Kircaali_6
2.08131701 59.80% Greek_Foca + 40.20% Lipka_Tatar
2.40435769 63.40% Greek_Central + 36.60% Lipka_Tatar
2.61073497 62.20% Greek_Athens + 37.80% Lipka_Tatar
2.61984753 82.20% Bulgarian_Thrace + 17.80% Nogai_Stavropol
2.67480488 83.20% Bulgarian_Thrace + 16.80% Karakalpak
2.67853593 80.40% Bulgarian_Thrace + 19.60% Uzbeki
2.69680714 79.60% Bulgarian_Thrace + 20.40% Turkmen_Afghanistan
2.77979248 84.00% Bulgarian_Thrace + 16.00% Uyghur
2.78238656 86.00% Bulgarian_Thrace + 14.00% Kyrgyz_Pamir
2.89692404 85.40% Bulgarian_Thrace + 14.60% Kazakh
2.91705319 72.20% Bulgarian_Thrace + 27.80% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
2.93264605 46.00% Serb + 54.00% Turk_Northwest
2.95494061 86.40% Bulgarian_Thrace + 13.60% Kyrgyz
2.95950988 50.40% Montenegrin + 49.60% Turk_Northwest
2.96626434 31.40% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe + 68.60% Greek_Thessaloniki
3.00876822 66.60% Greek_Peloponnese + 33.40% Lipka_Tatar
3.02328423 70.20% Macedonian_Northeast&Skopje + 29.80% Turkmen_Iran
3.03073546 79.20% Bulgarian_Thrace + 20.80% Uzbek
3.03330254 54.60% Romanian + 45.40% Turk_Northwest
3.03446210 50.20% Serb + 49.80% Turk_Southwest
3.05313865 83.20% Bulgarian_Thrace + 16.80% Nogai_Astrakhan
3.07437127 77.60% Greek_Thessaloniki + 22.40% Uzbeki
3.11829109 85.20% Bulgarian_Thrace + 14.80% Hazara
3.14857798 76.80% Greek_Thessaloniki + 23.20% Turkmen_Afghanistan
3.15666281 32.20% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe + 67.80% Greek_Peloponnese
Distance to: Kircaali_7
1.53862671 63.20% Slovenian + 36.80% Turk_Southeast
1.70483792 28.80% Azeri_Jew + 71.20% Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest
1.76908707 29.20% Azeri_Jew + 70.80% Hungarian
1.81942750 28.60% Assyrian_North + 71.40% Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest
1.82249928 71.00% Hungarian + 29.00% Mandean
1.83324594 21.40% Iranian_Fars + 78.60% Serb
1.84065132 28.80% Assyrian_South + 71.20% Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest
1.85773520 71.60% Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest + 28.40% Mandean
1.86685323 29.20% Assyrian_North + 70.80% Hungarian
1.88748041 29.20% Assyrian_South + 70.80% Hungarian
1.90373222 35.20% Azeri_Jew + 64.80% Czech
1.90418450 33.20% Turkmen_Iraq + 66.80% Slovenian
1.92082007 65.20% Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest + 34.80% Turk_Southeast
1.92393866 30.60% Azeri_Jew + 69.40% Hungarian_Alföld
1.93441633 35.20% Assyrian_South + 64.80% Czech
1.94150050 69.80% Hungarian_Alföld + 30.20% Mandean
1.94942468 30.40% Mandean + 69.60% Slovenian
1.96577815 65.00% Czech + 35.00% Mandean
1.98506856 71.60% Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest + 28.40% Kurdish_Jew
1.98752724 28.80% Assyrian_West + 71.20% Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest
1.99792283 35.20% Assyrian_North + 64.80% Czech
2.00507490 30.40% Assyrian_North + 69.60% Hungarian_Alföld
2.02487251 30.60% Assyrian_South + 69.40% Hungarian_Alföld
2.02871229 71.20% Hungarian + 28.80% Kurdish_Jew
2.03178274 29.20% Assyrian_West + 70.80% Hungarian
Distance to: Kircaali_8
2.41286146 54.40% Italian_Liguria + 45.60% Nogai
2.54733144 55.60% Italian_Emilia + 44.40% Nogai
2.55471770 56.60% Italian_Tuscany + 43.40% Nogai
2.81216061 76.80% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain + 23.20% Italian_Aosta_Valley
2.84450705 64.60% Greek_Foca + 35.40% Lipka_Tatar
2.84784421 59.60% Italian_Romagna + 40.40% Nogai
2.85463399 74.40% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain + 25.60% Italian_Trentino
2.94665273 77.60% Greek_Thessaloniki + 22.40% Turkmen_Afghanistan
2.97238460 75.20% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain + 24.80% Swiss_Italian
2.97977692 53.60% Italian_Piedmont + 46.40% Nogai
3.00206264 78.60% Greek_Thessaloniki + 21.40% Uzbeki
3.00299222 70.60% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain + 29.40% Italian_Friuli_VG
3.00927581 79.80% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain + 20.20% French_Northeast
3.07859146 82.00% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain + 18.00% Spanish_Cantabria
3.08196416 80.40% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain + 19.60% French_North
3.08776430 52.20% Italian_Lombardy + 47.80% Nogai
3.12583434 81.00% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain + 19.00% Spanish_Catalonia
3.12854907 67.20% Albanian_Kosovo + 32.80% Nogai
3.13304107 79.00% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain + 21.00% Spanish_Baleares
3.14375435 77.20% Greek_Thessaloniki + 22.80% Uzbek
3.14537701 80.40% Bulgarian_Thrace + 19.60% Turkmen_Afghanistan
3.15956315 71.40% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain + 28.60% Italian_Veneto
3.18850411 21.40% Bavarian_German + 78.60% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
3.20947048 84.60% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain + 15.40% French_Southwest
3.21565010 55.20% Italian_Veneto + 44.80% Nogai
Removed Tatars -and Balkan Turks- because except me, No:7 and No:2 all of them scored too much Tatar which is very unlikely and a clear shift.
Target: Thracian
Distance: 1.3627% / 1.36265763 | ADC: 0.25x
46.6 Greek_Thrace
36.8 Bulgarian_Thrace
8.5 Tajik_Herat
4.9 Yaghnobi_Tajikistan
1.1 Haryana_Ror
1.0 Yukagir
0.6 Italian_Lazio
0.5 Cambodians
Target: Kircaali_1
Distance: 1.5091% / 1.50912274 | ADC: 0.25x
48.9 Pomak_Greece
30.5 Moldovan_Gagauz
14.3 Turk_Northwest
1.8 Algerian
1.5 Nogai
1.4 Yukagir
1.1 BONDA
0.5 Tatar_Zabolotniye
Target: Kircaali_2
Distance: 1.6047% / 1.60467048 | ADC: 0.25x
31.7 Bulgarian_East
30.4 Lipka_Tatar
13.2 Turk_Northwest
7.6 Moldovan_Gagauz
7.3 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
6.9 Yaghnobi_Tajikistan
2.9 Saudi
Target: Kircaali_3
Distance: 1.3367% / 1.33671397 | ADC: 0.25x
56.9 Moldovan_Gagauz
15.9 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
15.1 Bulgarian_Thrace
9.5 Turk_Northwest
1.2 Tatar_Zabolotniye
0.9 Yukagir
0.5 Bnei_Menashe_Jews
Target: Kircaali_4
Distance: 1.6265% / 1.62647980 | ADC: 0.25x
51.4 Pomak_Greece
23.4 Turk_Northwest
17.7 Bulgarian_Thrace
5.1 Kuwait2
2.4 Yukagir
Target: Kircaali_5
Distance: 1.5779% / 1.57794385 | ADC: 0.25x
39.2 Pomak_Greece
36.0 Turk_Northwest
20.4 Lipka_Tatar
3.3 Bashkir_Central
1.1 Algerian
Target: Kircaali_6
Distance: 1.8502% / 1.85023916 | ADC: 0.25x
58.5 Bulgarian_Thrace
18.6 Lipka_Tatar
14.4 Turk_Northwest
4.1 Greek_Thrace
3.6 Nogai
0.8 Japanese
Target: Kircaali_7
Distance: 1.9565% / 1.95652127 | ADC: 0.25x
56.8 Pomak_Bulgaria
26.9 Moldovan_South
8.8 Pamiri_Shughnan
3.5 Pamiri_Rushan
1.6 Yaghnobi_Tajikistan
1.3 Kuwait2
1.0 Icelandic
0.1 Japanese
Target: Kircaali_8
Distance: 1.7916% / 1.79159385 | ADC: 0.25x
43.0 Bulgarian_Thrace
15.6 Nogai
13.8 Turk_Northwest
13.6 Italian_Emilia
9.0 Lipka_Tatar
4.7 Albanian
0.3 Italian_Lazio
I usually use this reference set:
Greek_Thrace,5.98,0.37,1.30,0.04,27.71,24.67,0.29, 0,9.26,0.14,30.21,0.01
Bulgarian_Thrace,6.59,0.41,1.68,0,25.45,26.47,0.61 ,0,8.53,0.25,29.92,0
Bulgarian_East,6.3,0.73,1.14,0.19,25.21,30.62,0.23 ,0.03,7.68,0.24,27.64,0
Moldovan_Gagauz,6.83,0.88,1.53,0.42,25.12,30.38,0. 77,0.04,6.51,0.36,27.10,0.06
Pomak_Bulgaria,5.24,0.47,0.66,0.16,25.26,33.51,0.2 9,0.01,7.28,0.56,26.51,0.05
Pomak_Greece,5.70,1.07,1.21,0.19,23.00,32.93,0.23, 0.08,7.28,0.40,27.99,0.06
Iranian_Khorasan,28.01,1.89,0.34,0.29,6.34,9.65,7. 63,0.44,10.14,2.84,32.17,0.26
Ottoman_MA2196,13.98,10.53,3.8,0,12.36,12.63,2.74, 1.67,3.09,12.12,26.34,0.75
Crimean_Tatar_Steppe,9.45,12.82,0.16,2.36,11.94,25 .43,1.77,0.04,3.94,15.44,16.64,0
Turkmen_Iran,21.19,9.46,0.54,1.15,5.45,12.76,4.94, 0.22,6.77,11.03,26.38,0.12
Covers all possible migrations as well as native profiles for the Thrace.
Thracian
06-13-2021, 07:42 PM
I usually use this reference set:
Greek_Thrace,5.98,0.37,1.30,0.04,27.71,24.67,0.29, 0,9.26,0.14,30.21,0.01
Bulgarian_Thrace,6.59,0.41,1.68,0,25.45,26.47,0.61 ,0,8.53,0.25,29.92,0
Bulgarian_East,6.3,0.73,1.14,0.19,25.21,30.62,0.23 ,0.03,7.68,0.24,27.64,0
Moldovan_Gagauz,6.83,0.88,1.53,0.42,25.12,30.38,0. 77,0.04,6.51,0.36,27.10,0.06
Pomak_Bulgaria,5.24,0.47,0.66,0.16,25.26,33.51,0.2 9,0.01,7.28,0.56,26.51,0.05
Pomak_Greece,5.70,1.07,1.21,0.19,23.00,32.93,0.23, 0.08,7.28,0.40,27.99,0.06
Iranian_Khorasan,28.01,1.89,0.34,0.29,6.34,9.65,7. 63,0.44,10.14,2.84,32.17,0.26
Ottoman_MA2196,13.98,10.53,3.8,0,12.36,12.63,2.74, 1.67,3.09,12.12,26.34,0.75
Crimean_Tatar_Steppe,9.45,12.82,0.16,2.36,11.94,25 .43,1.77,0.04,3.94,15.44,16.64,0
Turkmen_Iran,21.19,9.46,0.54,1.15,5.45,12.76,4.94, 0.22,6.77,11.03,26.38,0.12
Covers all possible migrations as well as native profiles for the Thrace.
https://i.ibb.co/QjyghBS/k12bkardzhl.png
Do you think that their Turkmen shifted to Crimean Tatar? It could be also Tatar, there were Tatars in Kardzhali as well.
Kaspias
06-14-2021, 05:51 PM
https://i.ibb.co/QjyghBS/k12bkardzhl.png
Do you think that their Turkmen shifted to Crimean Tatar? It could be also Tatar, there were Tatars in Kardzhali as well.
It might be overfitting too. Note that the Turkic among the individuals who scored on Crimean Tatar Steppe is also distributed into Turkmen Iran as well. I'm not sure though, I would expect an MA2196 dominated view here, some could be accurate nevertheless.
Kaspias
06-14-2021, 06:22 PM
Razgrad, Deliorman.
Y: https://www.yfull.com/tree/J-CTS2282/
MT: https://www.yfull.com/mtree/T1a1/
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 North_European 29.25
2 Caucasus 25.84
3 Atlantic_Med 17.55
4 Southwest_Asian 10.79
5 Siberian 6.4
6 Gedrosia 6.2
7 Northwest_African 1.88
8 South_Asian 1.36
9 Southeast_Asian 0.73
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 11.97
2 Romanians (Behar) 12.78
3 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 13.23
4 Greek (Dodecad) 17.96
5 O_Italian (Dodecad) 18.26
6 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 21.46
7 C_Italian (Dodecad) 21.67
8 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 21.8
9 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 22.99
10 Tuscan (HGDP) 23.12
11 Sicilian (Dodecad) 23.14
12 TSI30 (Metspalu) 23.31
13 Hungarians (Behar) 23.65
14 N_Italian (Dodecad) 24.35
15 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 24.81
16 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 26.93
17 North_Italian (HGDP) 27.15
18 Turkish (Dodecad) 27.24
19 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 28.19
20 Turks (Behar) 28.45
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 55.2% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 44.8% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 4.73
2 60.5% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 39.5% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 4.88
3 61% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) + 39% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 4.98
4 59.2% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 40.8% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 5.05
5 58.7% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 41.3% Russian (HGDP) @ 5.4
6 59.1% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 40.9% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 5.43
7 57.3% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 42.7% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 5.47
8 54.1% Morocco_Jews (Behar) + 45.9% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 6.18
9 56.2% Morocco_Jews (Behar) + 43.8% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 6.26
10 65.8% Greek (Dodecad) + 34.2% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 6.41
11 59.6% Cypriots (Behar) + 40.4% FIN30 (1000Genomes) @ 6.53
12 57.6% Morocco_Jews (Behar) + 42.4% Russian (HGDP) @ 6.65
13 64.1% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 35.9% FIN30 (1000Genomes) @ 6.65
14 54% Cypriots (Behar) + 46% Russian (HGDP) @ 6.78
15 65% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 35% Finnish (Dodecad) @ 6.82
16 64.7% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) + 35.3% Russian (HGDP) @ 6.89
17 64.3% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 35.7% Russian (HGDP) @ 7.09
18 60.4% Cypriots (Behar) + 39.6% Finnish (Dodecad) @ 7.09
19 63.5% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) + 36.5% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 7.1
20 50.5% Cypriots (Behar) + 49.5% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 7.1
Distance to: X
7.34970067 Turk_Deliorman
7.70360954 Turk_Trakya
9.54116345 Pomak_Greece
9.71493181 Turk_Makedonya
10.38258638 Bulgarian_East
10.49078643 Moldovan_Gagauz
11.09165001 Greek_Macedonia
11.36320817 Bulgarian_Thrace
11.38953906 Pomak_Bulgaria
11.44098772 Bulgarian_Central
11.84634965 Moldovan_South
12.06807773 Bulgarian_West
12.81928235 Macedonian_Northeast&Skopje
12.98546110 Romanian
13.09995802 Greek_Thessaloniki
13.33132026 Macedonian_South
13.36921464 Greek_Thessaly
13.47129170 Macedonian_Polog
13.56562568 Greek_Thrace
13.71221718 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
13.77450181 Macedonian_Vardar
13.79477075 Macedonian_East
13.82383811 Greek_Peloponnese
14.33111301 Albanian_Kosovo
14.83554852 Montenegrin
Distance to: X
5.91769195 35.80% Chuvash + 64.20% Italian_Apulia
6.17644926 59.20% Italian_Calabria + 40.80% Komi
6.26920027 8.00% Evenk + 92.00% Pomak_Greece
6.28278726 92.20% Pomak_Greece + 7.80% Yukagir
6.31936560 91.40% Pomak_Greece + 8.60% Sakha_Yakutia
6.38883751 43.00% Chuvash + 57.00% Italian_Calabria
6.39192469 67.40% Italian_Apulia + 32.60% Mari
6.39914250 66.40% Italian_Apulia + 33.60% Komi
6.51998964 80.60% Pomak_Greece + 19.40% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
6.54627949 82.40% Bulgarian_Thrace + 17.60% Tatar_Zabolotniye
6.70650178 79.00% Bulgarian_Thrace + 21.00% Mari
6.73188443 39.40% Bashkir_North + 60.60% Italian_Apulia
6.76930926 52.00% Italian_Calabria + 48.00% Tatar_Mishar
6.78182031 52.20% Armenian_West + 47.80% Veps
6.80060573 90.80% Pomak_Greece + 9.20% Tuvan
6.87537416 12.80% Kuwait1 + 87.20% Pomak_Greece
6.89294179 80.60% Pomak_Greece + 19.40% Turkmen_Iran
6.90882994 83.00% Pomak_Greece + 17.00% Turkmen_Afghanistan
6.91432320 26.20% Bashkir_North + 73.80% Bulgarian_Thrace
6.91636798 41.20% Chuvash + 58.80% Italian_Campania
6.92233371 40.00% Chuvash + 60.00% Italian_Sicily
6.93031412 58.80% Italian_Apulia + 41.20% Tatar_Kazan
6.93468505 25.20% Bashkir_Central + 74.80% Bulgarian_Thrace
6.95327384 77.00% Bulgarian_Thrace + 23.00% Chuvash
6.95571446 86.60% Pomak_Greece + 13.40% Karluk_DA222
Thracian
06-15-2021, 06:11 AM
It might be overfitting too. Note that the Turkic among the individuals who scored on Crimean Tatar Steppe is also distributed into Turkmen Iran as well. I'm not sure though, I would expect an MA2196 dominated view here, some could be accurate nevertheless.
They score predominantly Ottoman if I remove Tatars. The rest who don't score Tatars are more or less the same.
Kaspias
06-24-2021, 09:29 AM
From the Turkish study. Likely to be from Kardzhali or Komotini.
Y: https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-Y164586/
MT: https://www.yfull.com/mtree/V35/
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 27.27
2 North_European 24.67
3 Atlantic_Med 19.94
4 Gedrosia 8.62
5 Southwest_Asian 7.92
6 East_Asian 5.45
7 Siberian 4.64
8 South_Asian 1
9 Northwest_African 0.3
10 Southeast_Asian 0.19
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 13.41
2 Romanians (Behar) 14.43
3 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 14.46
4 O_Italian (Dodecad) 15.26
5 Greek (Dodecad) 15.37
6 C_Italian (Dodecad) 18.25
7 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 18.72
8 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 19.26
9 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 19.49
10 Tuscan (HGDP) 19.54
11 Sicilian (Dodecad) 19.79
12 TSI30 (Metspalu) 20.08
13 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 21.36
14 N_Italian (Dodecad) 21.87
15 Turkish (Dodecad) 23.47
16 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 23.91
17 North_Italian (HGDP) 24.54
18 Turks (Behar) 24.92
19 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 25.42
20 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 26.3
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 66.3% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 33.7% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 5.4
2 76.9% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 23.1% Hazara (HGDP) @ 5.48
3 72.5% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 27.5% Uzbeks (Behar) @ 5.92
4 75.5% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 24.5% Hazara (HGDP) @ 5.94
5 64% Turkish (Dodecad) + 36% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 6
6 68.6% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 31.4% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 6.01
7 66.7% Romanians (Behar) + 33.3% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 6.04
8 63.9% Turkish (Dodecad) + 36.1% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 6.1
9 62.6% Turks (Behar) + 37.4% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 6.13
10 59.5% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 40.5% Nogais (Yunusbayev) @ 6.32
11 70.8% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 29.2% Uzbeks (Behar) @ 6.33
12 66.5% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 33.5% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 6.34
13 62.4% Turks (Behar) + 37.6% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 6.41
14 69.3% Greek (Dodecad) + 30.7% Uzbeks (Behar) @ 6.43
15 55.6% Turks (Behar) + 44.4% German (Dodecad) @ 6.48
16 50.6% Nogais (Yunusbayev) + 49.4% N_Italian (Dodecad) @ 6.49
17 57.2% Turkish (Dodecad) + 42.8% German (Dodecad) @ 6.63
18 77% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 23% Uygur (HGDP) @ 6.7
19 76.1% Romanians (Behar) + 23.9% Hazara (HGDP) @ 6.74
20 66.3% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 33.7% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 6.92
Distance to: X
3.10170921 Turk_Trakya
5.63756153 Turk_Deliorman
7.66277365 Turk_Makedonya
8.48717267 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
9.59901557 Bulgarian_Thrace
10.31150813 Moldovan_Gagauz
10.60584273 Bulgarian_East
10.98391096 Greek_Macedonia
11.07653827 Greek_Peloponnese
11.10449909 Greek_Thessaloniki
11.21326893 Greek_Thrace
11.22458462 Greek_Thessaly
11.25717549 Pomak_Greece
12.43255002 Macedonian_South
12.44587482 Bulgarian_Central
12.45714253 Greek_Central
12.58974980 Albanian_Kosovo
12.67490039 Albanian
12.67863163 Macedonian_Vardar
12.68060724 Pomak_Bulgaria
12.81031616 Macedonian_Northeast&Skopje
12.97348835 Greek_Athens
13.15764037 Macedonian_Polog
13.24186165 Bulgarian_West
13.31057474 Moldovan_South
Distance to: X
1.98030270 76.60% Bulgarian_Thrace + 23.40% Uzbeki
2.00759530 75.60% Bulgarian_Thrace + 24.40% Turkmen_Afghanistan
2.42803624 79.00% Bulgarian_Thrace + 21.00% Karluk_DA230
2.49489729 75.00% Bulgarian_Thrace + 25.00% Uzbek
2.51511435 80.80% Bulgarian_Thrace + 19.20% Karluk_DA222
2.64047543 78.60% Bulgarian_Thrace + 21.40% Ottoman_MA2195
2.66527012 80.20% Bulgarian_Thrace + 19.80% Karakalpak
2.69643472 81.00% Bulgarian_Thrace + 19.00% Uyghur
2.72776114 79.20% Bulgarian_Thrace + 20.80% Nogai_Stavropol
2.78303613 67.20% Macedonian_Northeast&Skopje + 32.80% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
2.79842971 65.80% Macedonian_Northeast&Skopje + 34.20% Turkmen_Iran
2.87668372 82.20% Bulgarian_Thrace + 17.80% Hazara
2.94985261 83.60% Bulgarian_Thrace + 16.40% Kyrgyz_Pamir
2.99045365 64.80% Macedonian_East + 35.20% Turkmen_Iran
3.00393563 57.40% Italian_Apulia + 42.60% Lipka_Tatar
3.02973360 64.60% Bulgarian_East + 35.40% Ottoman_MA2196
3.05986926 71.60% Bulgarian_East + 28.40% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
3.06288208 67.40% Bulgarian_Thrace + 32.60% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
3.07015628 73.80% Greek_Thrace + 26.20% Uzbeki
3.11034289 60.20% Pomak_Bulgaria + 39.80% Ottoman_MA2196
3.14648535 80.60% Bulgarian_Thrace + 19.40% Karakhanid_DA204
3.14816826 83.00% Bulgarian_Thrace + 17.00% Kazakh
3.17944388 84.20% Bulgarian_Thrace + 15.80% Kyrgyz
3.18842273 70.40% Bulgarian_Thrace + 29.60% Kipchak_DA179
3.19204934 73.00% Greek_Thrace + 27.00% Turkmen_Afghanistan
Kaspias
06-24-2021, 09:36 AM
Targovishte(Eskicuma), Deliorman
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 North_European 26.79
2 Atlantic_Med 23.67
3 Caucasus 23.58
4 Gedrosia 10.73
5 Southwest_Asian 6.26
6 Siberian 3.42
7 East_Asian 2.68
8 Northwest_African 1.49
9 South_Asian 1.37
10 Southeast_Asian 0.01
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 12.32
2 Romanians (Behar) 12.63
3 O_Italian (Dodecad) 12.95
4 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 13.53
5 Greek (Dodecad) 16.82
6 C_Italian (Dodecad) 17.39
7 TSI30 (Metspalu) 17.8
8 Tuscan (HGDP) 17.86
9 N_Italian (Dodecad) 17.87
10 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 20.83
11 North_Italian (HGDP) 20.9
12 Sicilian (Dodecad) 21.05
13 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 21.35
14 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 21.73
15 Hungarians (Behar) 22.56
16 German (Dodecad) 25.76
17 French (Dodecad) 25.92
18 French (HGDP) 26.07
19 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 26.09
20 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 26.22
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 50.4% Dutch (Dodecad) + 49.6% Turks (Behar) @ 3.79
2 52.3% Turks (Behar) + 47.7% British_Isles (Dodecad) @ 3.92
3 56.3% Turkish (Dodecad) + 43.7% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 4.05
4 52.1% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) + 47.9% Turks (Behar) @ 4.06
5 53.2% Turks (Behar) + 46.8% Orkney (1000Genomes) @ 4.07
6 50.9% Turks (Behar) + 49.1% CEU30 (1000Genomes) @ 4.13
7 51% Turks (Behar) + 49% English (Dodecad) @ 4.14
8 55% Turks (Behar) + 45% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 4.24
9 53.1% Turks (Behar) + 46.9% Orcadian (HGDP) @ 4.26
10 51% Turkish (Dodecad) + 49% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 4.27
11 50.6% Turks (Behar) + 49.4% Kent (1000Genomes) @ 4.27
12 54.5% Turkish (Dodecad) + 45.5% Orkney (1000Genomes) @ 4.33
13 53% Turks (Behar) + 47% Irish (Dodecad) @ 4.35
14 50.8% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) + 49.2% Turkish (Dodecad) @ 4.47
15 52.4% Turks (Behar) + 47.6% Argyll (1000Genomes) @ 4.48
16 54.5% Turkish (Dodecad) + 45.5% Orcadian (HGDP) @ 4.55
17 53.7% Turkish (Dodecad) + 46.3% Argyll (1000Genomes) @ 4.57
18 52.3% Turks (Behar) + 47.7% British (Dodecad) @ 4.58
19 53.6% Turkish (Dodecad) + 46.4% British_Isles (Dodecad) @ 4.6
20 52.3% Turkish (Dodecad) + 47.7% CEU30 (1000Genomes) @ 4.66
Distance to: X
5.11089033 Turk_Deliorman
5.83973458 Turk_Trakya
7.34378649 Turk_Makedonya
7.41826799 Moldovan_Gagauz
8.35548921 Bulgarian_East
8.52700416 Greek_Macedonia
9.01873605 Bulgarian_Thrace
9.46453380 Macedonian_Vardar
9.58907191 Bulgarian_Central
9.63700161 Macedonian_Polog
9.72542544 Moldovan_South
9.80218853 Pomak_Greece
9.89313904 Macedonian_South
10.08985629 Bulgarian_West
10.12582342 Pomak_Bulgaria
10.30897667 Greek_Thessaly
10.44028735 Macedonian_East
10.46815648 Macedonian_Northeast&Skopje
10.51952946 Romanian
10.62298922 Albanian_Kosovo
10.64395133 Greek_Thrace
11.23514130 Greek_Thessaloniki
11.99509900 Greek_Peloponnese
12.39665277 Montenegrin
12.40586152 Albanian
Distance to: X
1.51616292 70.00% Albanian + 30.00% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA81
1.63966919 73.20% Greek_Thrace + 26.80% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA81
1.68089416 72.60% Albanian + 27.40% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA85
1.86306949 74.40% Greek_Thrace + 25.60% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA101
1.96334255 75.80% Greek_Thrace + 24.20% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA85
2.03794156 74.60% Albanian_Kosovo + 25.40% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA101
2.11289388 71.40% Albanian + 28.60% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA101
2.12105426 75.80% Greek_Thrace + 24.20% Saka_Tian_Shan_DA56
2.13997224 81.00% Bulgarian_Thrace + 19.00% Gokturk_DA89
2.37341003 69.20% Greek_Thrace + 30.80% Saka_Tian_Shan_DA58
2.43460572 65.60% Albanian + 34.40% Saka_Tian_Shan_DA58
2.49287291 69.20% Italian_Lazio + 30.80% Saka_Tian_Shan_DA47
2.49920971 71.40% Albanian + 28.60% Saka_Tian_Shan_DA47
2.51436903 75.40% Macedonian_Polog + 24.60% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
2.52112172 79.20% Bulgarian_Thrace + 20.80% Saka_Tian_Shan_DA56
2.56647326 76.80% Bulgarian_Thrace + 23.20% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA81
2.57818626 73.00% Albanian + 27.00% Saka_Tian_Shan_DA56
2.57936963 74.60% Greek_Thrace + 25.40% Saka_Tian_Shan_DA47
2.59674482 79.40% Bulgarian_Thrace + 20.60% KAZ_Nomad_MA_DA126
2.66050259 80.60% Albanian_Kosovo + 19.40% Xiongnu-Turk_DA38
2.70601472 75.20% Macedonian_Vardar + 24.80% Tajik_Mountain
2.71690661 73.20% Macedonian_East + 26.80% Tajik_Mountain
2.79022097 74.80% Macedonian_Polog + 25.20% Tajik_Mountain
2.82387367 78.00% Bulgarian_Thrace + 22.00% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA101
2.90136667 76.40% Macedonian_South + 23.60% Hun_Tian_Shan_DA101
Kayra
06-26-2021, 09:33 AM
My results:
Distance to: Kayra
3.05838386 16.00% Hazara + 84.00% Montenegrin
3.43419258 13.80% Hazara + 86.20% Romanian
3.62513792 79.00% Montenegrin + 21.00% Uzbek
3.76565298 78.80% Montenegrin + 21.20% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
3.82580965 83.60% Montenegrin + 16.40% Uyghur
3.89703644 80.60% Montenegrin + 19.40% Uzbeki
3.97343076 80.00% Montenegrin + 20.00% Turkmen_Afghanistan
3.99662271 85.80% Romanian + 14.20% Uyghur
4.05251438 12.80% Hazara + 87.20% Moldovan_South
4.05573002 85.60% Macedonian_Polog + 14.40% Tubalar
4.08610769 82.00% Romanian + 18.00% Uzbek
4.10976025 14.20% Altaian_Chelkan + 85.80% Macedonian_Polog
4.29029352 83.60% Romanian + 16.40% Uzbeki
4.30027264 18.80% Bashkir_South + 81.20% Macedonian_Polog
4.35219208 83.00% Romanian + 17.00% Turkmen_Afghanistan
4.37051611 86.20% Bulgarian_West + 13.80% Hazara
4.39545516 86.60% Macedonian_Polog + 13.40% Shor
4.42625644 12.00% Kyrgyz_Pamir + 88.00% Romanian
4.43739056 14.20% Hazara + 85.80% Macedonian_Polog
4.45585965 26.60% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe + 73.40% Macedonian_Polog
4.49196967 87.00% Moldovan_South + 13.00% Uyghur
4.50871633 23.80% Bashkir_Central + 76.20% Macedonian_Vardar
4.51230678 82.20% Romanian + 17.80% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
4.55179195 44.60% Hungarian_Transylvania+Székely + 55.40% Turk_Trakya
4.55918329 15.00% Nogai_Stavropol + 85.00% Romanian
Kaspias
06-27-2021, 06:57 PM
An overview of Turks from Central Macedonia who settled in Mountainous parts of the region.
Samples are from
https://i.ibb.co/RYXm41N/det.png
Historical settlements
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d4/a0/39/d4a03964ee346c24c376d7e208b332cd.jpg
For more information:
Population exchange between Greece and Turkey (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_exchange_between_Greece_and_Turkey)
One of the samples is from the recent Turkish study but added due to matching closely with other individuals from the region. Almost half of the samples are from the regions where historically marked as Muslim Vlach(and Pomak?) settled, but I added them to the average as they do not have distinct ethnogenesis than the mainstream Turks and did not report themselves as Vlachs. Nevertheless, I'm obliged to notice you that:
Central_Macedonia_7 has got the surname Karacaova, which is a distinct ethnic name given to Muslim Vlachs. Central_Macedonia_6 and Central_Macedonia_8 are his matches, and two of the kits belong to the same individual.
Central_Macedonia_1 is from the region settled by Muslim Vlachs(there are individuals who identify as Pomaks in the same region). Central_Macedonia_2, Central_Macedonia_3, Central_Macedonia_4 are his matches.
At that stage, my recommendation would be to be skeptical towards the mentioned samples despite the barrier between ethnic Turks and non-Turks in the region looks very transparent.
Distance to: Turk_Mountainous_CMacedonia
2.41230181 Turk_Makedonya
2.54090535 Bulgarian_East
2.61147468 Greek_Macedonia_Academic
2.76584526 Moldovan_Gagauz
3.23743726 Bulgarian_Thrace
3.53448723 Greek_Macedonia_Kaspias
3.91920910 Macedonian_South
4.07699644 Macedonian_Northeast&Skopje
4.19897607 Macedonian_Vardar
4.70441282 Albanian_Kosovo
4.71079611 Macedonian_Polog
4.83505946 Greek_Thessaly
4.87585890 Macedonian_East
4.89165616 Bulgarian_Central
5.17702617 Greek_Thessaloniki
5.24502622 Pomak_Greece
5.30064147 Turk_Deliorman
5.34053368 Greek_Thrace
5.59280788 Pomak_Bulgaria
5.83141492 Bulgarian_West
6.49197197 Moldovan_South
6.58034194 Turk_Trakya
6.90531679 Albanian
7.16253447 Romanian
7.54436213 Greek_Peloponnese
Target: Turk_Mountainous_CMacedonia
Distance: 1.2530% / 1.25300132 | R2P
88.6 Macedonian_South
11.4 Nogai
https://i.ibb.co/WDbL7xd/da-l-kmakedonya.png
Macedonia:Greek_Macedonia_Kaspias,5.32,0.31,0.60,0 .15,28.27,29.61,0.20,0.00,7.24,0.21,28.12,0.00
Macedonia:Greek_Macedonia_Academic,6.27,0.51,0.85, 0.18,25.96,30.54,0.18,0,7.61,0.33,27.56,0
Macedonia:Macedonian_South,5.06,0.27,1.23,0.11,28. 81,28.50,0.23,0.02,8.19,0.17,27.46,0
Macedonia:Macedonian_Vardar,5.62,0.48,1.26,0.10,29 .18,29.02,0.29,0,6.83,0.21,27.02,0
https://i.ibb.co/BqYPsZw/plot.png
https://i.ibb.co/yfywNpQ/pca1.png
https://i.ibb.co/Wn22GBb/pca2.png
Kaspias
07-03-2021, 03:32 PM
His surname "Tülümen" referred to a national guard in the former Ottoman Empire. They were moved to Thrace by the Murad IV. Tülümen would go to the captured cities and castles and provide service to the sultan by organizing the people and infrastructure there. As a reward, a region(formerly called Cebel District) in the Northern part of Komotini and the Southern part of the Kardzhali was given to the Tulumens. They are known for their Karamanid origin.
Y: https://www.yfull.com/tree/J-Z2215/
MT: https://www.yfull.com/mtree/HV2a/
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 27.19
2 North_European 24.88
3 Atlantic_Med 22.35
4 Gedrosia 8.72
5 Southwest_Asian 8.19
6 Siberian 3.29
7 East_Asian 2.74
8 Northwest_African 1.96
9 South_Asian 0.68
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 11.68
2 O_Italian (Dodecad) 12.08
3 Romanians (Behar) 12.73
4 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 12.81
5 Greek (Dodecad) 13.27
6 C_Italian (Dodecad) 15.47
7 Tuscan (HGDP) 16.88
8 TSI30 (Metspalu) 17.22
9 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 17.27
10 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 17.53
11 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 17.69
12 Sicilian (Dodecad) 17.71
13 N_Italian (Dodecad) 18.96
14 North_Italian (HGDP) 21.75
15 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 22.45
16 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 23.76
17 Turkish (Dodecad) 24.18
18 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 24.51
19 Hungarians (Behar) 25.26
20 Turks (Behar) 25.82
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 62.3% Turkish (Dodecad) + 37.7% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 4.4
2 54.9% Turkish (Dodecad) + 45.1% German (Dodecad) @ 4.79
3 57.8% Turkish (Dodecad) + 42.2% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 4.9
4 62.3% Turkish (Dodecad) + 37.7% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 4.95
5 69.4% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 30.6% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 4.99
6 56.1% Turks (Behar) + 43.9% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 5.03
7 53.2% Turks (Behar) + 46.8% German (Dodecad) @ 5.05
8 58.4% Turks (Behar) + 41.6% British_Isles (Dodecad) @ 5.12
9 60.8% Turks (Behar) + 39.2% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 5.13
10 60.1% Turkish (Dodecad) + 39.9% British_Isles (Dodecad) @ 5.15
11 56.4% Turkish (Dodecad) + 43.6% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) @ 5.19
12 54.7% Turks (Behar) + 45.3% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) @ 5.34
13 61% Turkish (Dodecad) + 39% Orkney (1000Genomes) @ 5.35
14 59% Turkish (Dodecad) + 41% CEU30 (1000Genomes) @ 5.36
15 59.1% Turkish (Dodecad) + 40.9% English (Dodecad) @ 5.37
16 69.3% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 30.7% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 5.42
17 57.3% Turks (Behar) + 42.7% CEU30 (1000Genomes) @ 5.44
18 57.4% Turks (Behar) + 42.6% English (Dodecad) @ 5.44
19 58.7% Turkish (Dodecad) + 41.3% Kent (1000Genomes) @ 5.47
20 57.1% Turks (Behar) + 42.9% Kent (1000Genomes) @ 5.48
Distance to: X
2.05548048 Turk_Trakya
4.47902891 Turk_Deliorman
4.51429950 Turk_Makedonya
6.23067412 Bulgarian_Thrace
7.49483822 Moldovan_Gagauz
7.82059461 Bulgarian_East
7.82985951 Greek_Thessaly
7.90078477 Greek_Thrace
8.05788434 Greek_Thessaloniki
8.16054532 Greek_Macedonia
8.19928655 Greek_Peloponnese
9.20748065 Macedonian_South
9.32891205 Pomak_Greece
9.40786905 Albanian_Kosovo
9.49874202 Macedonian_Vardar
9.64869421 Albanian
9.82891144 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
9.83774364 Greek_Central
10.04310709 Bulgarian_Central
10.08633729 Macedonian_Northeast&Skopje
10.23219918 Macedonian_Polog
10.53190391 Pomak_Bulgaria
10.55605040 Greek_Athens
10.56292100 Macedonian_East
10.93219557 Bulgarian_West
Distance to: X
1.29124687 87.40% Bulgarian_Thrace + 12.60% Karluk_DA222
1.41508026 84.20% Bulgarian_Thrace + 15.80% Turkmen_Afghanistan
1.59036089 85.00% Bulgarian_Thrace + 15.00% Uzbeki
1.60774140 83.80% Bulgarian_Thrace + 16.20% Uzbek
1.66388941 74.80% Macedonian_South + 25.20% Turkmen_Iran
1.72940221 82.60% Bulgarian_Thrace + 17.40% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
1.80729044 88.40% Bulgarian_Thrace + 11.60% Hazara
1.91928053 86.60% Bulgarian_Thrace + 13.40% Karluk_DA230
2.07543475 87.40% Bulgarian_Thrace + 12.60% Karakhanid_DA204
2.12585125 80.80% Bulgarian_Thrace + 19.20% Kipchak_DA179
2.15906732 86.40% Bulgarian_Thrace + 13.60% Ottoman_MA2195
2.16050597 89.20% Bulgarian_Thrace + 10.80% Tubalar
2.17804632 88.00% Bulgarian_Thrace + 12.00% Uyghur
2.21909789 87.40% Bulgarian_Thrace + 12.60% Karakalpak
2.23955789 10.60% Altaian_Chelkan + 89.40% Bulgarian_Thrace
2.26365868 74.00% Bulgarian_East + 26.00% Ottoman_MA2196
2.28886557 88.60% Bulgarian_Thrace + 11.40% Xiongnu-Turk_DA38
2.28915488 74.40% Macedonian_Vardar + 25.60% Turkmen_Iran
2.31592776 89.60% Bulgarian_Thrace + 10.40% Kyrgyz_Pamir
2.31996072 88.40% Bulgarian_Thrace + 11.60% Xiongnu-Turk_DA41
2.32046281 85.60% Greek_Thrace + 14.40% Xiongnu-Turk_DA38
2.33695465 87.00% Bulgarian_Thrace + 13.00% Nogai_Stavropol
2.35511380 90.00% Bulgarian_Thrace + 10.00% Shor
2.37348661 72.20% Macedonian_East + 27.80% Turkmen_Iran
2.42157010 79.40% Bulgarian_Thrace + 20.60% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
Italicus
07-30-2021, 08:55 PM
So apparently Turks from Deliorman did not receive Oghuz ancestry but rather Tatar. Interesting. I wonder, what subgroup of Tatars were they and how did they get there? Also are Turks from Deliorman the most northern shifted Turks? Because that appears to be the case.
Kaspias
07-30-2021, 09:12 PM
So apparently Turks from Deliorman did not receive Oghuz ancestry but rather Tatar.
No, that's not the case. Deliorman Turks are also received Oghuz ancestry and they model accordingly. It's true that they got elevated Tatar admixture compared to other Balkan Turk groups, but this doesn't create that much significant effect in terms of averages, rather something at the individual level.
Interesting. I wonder, what subgroup of Tatars were they and how did they get there?
Crimean Tatar influx continued from the early medieval to the last century, the admixture they brought is probably changed as well. There were probably a bunch of mixed individuals who had already mixed in the region they settled at first(Crimea and around) and also Nogais who is also absorbed Mongols so have got elevated East Eurasian admixture.
The current results suggest Dobruja Tatars consist of two different groups of Tatars under the subgroup of "Steppe Tatars," one identify as Nogay who has around 40% East Eurasian on average and the other is mainstream Crimean Steppe Tatar group who has around 25% East Eurasian in average. I think this was the case in early migrations as well. One exception is that there is a "Black Tatar" settlement around the region modern-day Kırklareli(Turkey) and Burgas(Bulgaria), that group of Tatars probably remained either after the Timur or Mongol invasion and consisted of a different kind of group than Crimean Tatars. Tahrir defters of the region reveal that there were even villages named after Dzungars. But all these are couldn't create a significant effect on the admixture results, apparently, probably due to the fact that they melted in the same pot as the dominant Yörük population. Those Tatars who settled earlier registered together with Yörüks and functioned the same as them within the Ottoman military system and their settlements were bound each other shortly after they settled.
Also are Turks from Deliorman the most northern shifted Turks? Because that appears to be the case.
Yes, it seems so. But one can note that Macedonian Turks are almost equal to the Deliorman Turks when it comes to the total European admixture, but they have elevated "Atlantic_Med" while having lesser "North_European", and also significantly lesser Turkic admixture compared to the Deliorman region.
Arzanene
07-30-2021, 10:21 PM
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Italicus
07-30-2021, 10:49 PM
Ok, so if I understand right, Deliorman Turks are mixed with both Oghuz and Crimean Tatar. (Nogay as well?) What proportion of each Turkic groups would be in their ancestry? Is the Tatar and Oghuz contribution roughly equal, or is one side dominant over the other?
Arzanene
07-30-2021, 10:56 PM
Ok, so if I understand right, Deliorman Turks are mixed with both Oghuz and Crimean Tatar. (Nogay as well?) What proportion of each Turkic groups would be in their ancestry? Is the Tatar and Oghuz contribution roughly equal, or is one side dominant over the other?
Using Vahaduo for while I realized that the algorithm sometimes incorrectly shows Crimean tatar and Nogai for Turks because "Crimean Tatar mountain" is essentially Greco-Turkic and "crimean_tatar steppe" is European slavic mixed with Turkic. Nogai is also North caucasian mixed with Turkic
So if you have a Turk who has some slavic ancestry the algorithm will show lipka Tatar or crimean Tatar steppe because it incorrectly mixes the slavic and Turkic into tatar. And if a Turk has circassian ancestry it will incorrectly show Nogai because it will mix the Turkmen with Circassian.
Arzanene
07-31-2021, 03:26 AM
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Kaspias
07-31-2021, 08:45 AM
Ok, so if I understand right, Deliorman Turks are mixed with both Oghuz and Crimean Tatar. (Nogay as well?) What proportion of each Turkic groups would be in their ancestry? Is the Tatar and Oghuz contribution roughly equal, or is one side dominant over the other?
Crimean Tatars and Nogais were tangled in the medieval. Their situation is a bit confusing honestly, but yes, Turks have gotten geneflow from both group despite the mainstream Crimean Steppe Tatar group should have a greater portion. However, the Nogay admixture I'm mentioning is not something like Caucasian Nogais, rather Crimean Nogais who already have a similar composition to the Steppe Tatars with an addition of Eastern Eurasian admixture.
It is actually not possible to detect certain sharing of Oghuz and Tatar admixture as modern representatives of populations were continued to evolve separately after contributing to the Turkish ethnogenesis, and we have no perfectly legit samples from the medieval. However, I do believe MA2196 is a great sample while determining Oghuz part of Balkan Turks and early comer Crimean Tatars shouldn't have that much isolated genetic profile. Nevertheless, based on my experience, I would say Turkic admixture among Deliorman Turks (on average) are like 60-70% Oghuz and 30-40% Tatar. The Southern part of Deliorman(around Targovishte, south of Varna, Shumen) could be up to 80-90% Oghuz while Northern Dobruja(Romanian Dobruja) could be up to 60-70% Tatar.
There might be pre-Ottoman Turkic influences in the region as well but that would be masked by Oghuz and Tatar admixtures.
Using Vahaduo for while I realized that the algorithm sometimes incorrectly shows Crimean tatar and Nogai for Turks because "Crimean Tatar mountain" is essentially Greco-Turkic and "crimean_tatar steppe" is European slavic mixed with Turkic. Nogai is also North caucasian mixed with Turkic
So if you have a Turk who has some slavic ancestry the algorithm will show lipka Tatar or crimean Tatar steppe because it incorrectly mixes the slavic and Turkic into tatar. And if a Turk has circassian ancestry it will incorrectly show Nogai because it will mix the Turkmen with Circassian.
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Bulgarian Turkish Averages, Dodecad k12 results
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Circassians have no role in the Turkish ethnogenesis, therefore you shouldn't use it while modeling Turks, it just messes the calculations. You are right about Mountain Tatars, they have a genetic closeness to the Thracian Turks but they are actually totally different populations, so it is better to just remove Mountain Tatars while modeling them so as not to create a biased run. (Mountain Tatars are not exactly Greco-Turkic by the way, they are a mix of Coast Turks who are Greco-Turkic and Steppe Tatars who are Slavo/Germano-Turkic.)
Popping up of Crimean Tatar and Nogay in the individual runs is pretty expected as the origin of Turkic might be interchangeable from region to region, this kind of results might be either a false representation of Turkic admixture due to the common elements as you stated, or it just might be reflecting the fact. This should be taken according to the individual's ancestral story and the location she is from.
When it comes to the averages, you can use this set:
Here the samples Greek_Macedonia_Kaspias, Pomak_Greece, Gagauz_Moldova, Gagauz_Thrace show a very slightly Turkic shift that might lead to absorbing of Turkic admixture in some individuals. Runs both with them and without them should have considered and final result to be reached according to the consistency of the results.
https://i.ibb.co/M9BHYCS/PCA.png
Balkan:Bulgarian_Central,5.51,0.56,0.83,0.18,25.81 ,32.76,0.34,0.08,7.2,0.28,26.43,0.02
Balkan:Bulgarian_East,6.3,0.73,1.14,0.19,25.21,30. 62,0.23,0.03,7.68,0.24,27.64,0
Balkan:Bulgarian_Thrace,6.59,0.41,1.68,0,25.45,26. 47,0.61,0,8.53,0.25,29.92,0
Balkan:Pomak_Bulgaria,5.24,0.47,0.66,0.16,25.26,33 .51,0.29,0.01,7.28,0.56,26.51,0.05
Balkan:Pomak_Greece,5.70,1.07,1.21,0.19,23.00,32.9 3,0.23,0.08,7.28,0.40,27.99,0.06
Balkan:Greek_Thessaloniki,5.04,0.36,1.51,0.19,26.7 1,25.24,0.48,0.05,8.95,0.21,31.24,0.03
Balkan:Greek_Thrace,5.98,0.37,1.30,0.04,27.71,24.6 7,0.29,0,9.26,0.14,30.21,0.01
Balkan:Macedonian_East,4.65,0.39,0.52,0.23,29.07,3 0.58,0.09,0,7.26,0.40,26.82,0
Balkan:Macedonian_Northeast&Skopje,4.54,0.36,0.68,0.21,27.65,31.03,0.08,0.02,7 .28,0.21,27.89,0.05
Balkan:Macedonian_Polog,5.61,0.27,1.13,0.11,28.51, 30.98,0.20,0.02,6.57,0.18,26.39,0
Balkan:Macedonian_South,5.06,0.27,1.23,0.11,28.81, 28.50,0.23,0.02,8.19,0.17,27.46,0
Balkan:Macedonian_Vardar,5.62,0.48,1.26,0.10,29.18 ,29.02,0.29,0,6.83,0.21,27.02,0
Balkan:Moldovan_Gagauz,6.83,0.88,1.53,0.42,25.12,3 0.38,0.77,0.04,6.51,0.36,27.10,0.06
Balkan:Gagauz_Thrace,6.54,1.33,1.2,0,26.91,31.62,0 .66,0.15,7.96,0.92,22.66,0.03
Balkan:Greek_Macedonia_Academic,6.27,0.51,0.85,0.1 8,25.96,30.54,0.18,0,7.61,0.33,27.56,0
Balkan:Greek_Macedonia_Kaspias,6.14,1.69,1.19,0.14 ,25.50,28.41,0.45,0.09,7.54,0.75,28.09,0.04
Turkic_MA:Ottoman_MA2196,13.98,10.53,3.8,0,12.36,1 2.63,2.74,1.67,3.09,12.12,26.34,0.75
Turkic_MA:Crimean_Tatar_Steppe,9.45,12.82,0.16,2.3 6,11.94,25.43,1.77,0.04,3.94,15.44,16.64,0
Arzanene
07-31-2021, 09:52 AM
Circassians have no role in the Turkish ethnogenesis, therefore you shouldn't use it while modeling Turks, it just messes the calculations. You are right about Mountain Tatars, they have a genetic closeness to the Thracian Turks but they are actually totally different populations, so it is better to just remove Mountain Tatars while modeling them so as not to create a biased run. (Mountain Tatars are not exactly Greco-Turkic by the way, they are a mix of Coast Turks who are Greco-Turkic and Steppe Tatars who are Slavo/Germano-Turkic.)
Popping up of Crimean Tatar and Nogay in the individual runs is pretty expected as the origin of Turkic might be interchangeable from region to region, this kind of results might be either a false representation of Turkic admixture due to the common elements as you stated, or it just might be reflecting the fact. This should be taken according to the individual's ancestral story and the location she is from.
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Circassians did have a major role in the ethnogenesis of Turks depending on the province. some ottoman provinces experienced major influxes of them and other north Caucasian refugees, which rapidly assimilated into the Turkish communities and through intermarriage and population growth their genetic influence trickled down to major portions of the Turkish populations of the provinces they settled. The Caucasian refugees also settled in Bulgaria as well and assimilated into the Balkan Turkish communities. Most Bulgarian Turks seem to have none while only some do from the samples posted here.
and I am not talking about the east asian Nogai_Astrakhan or stavropol population samples in the source. but the regular Nogai sample in the source of Dodecad k12 which is essentially Circassian mixed with some Turkmen. This makes the calculator distort the results of Turks who have north caucasian ancestry by masking the Turkmen admixture they have by combing the Circassian and Turkmen into Nogai.
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while the crimean tatar populations in the source also have Bulgarian admixture which could inaccurately show up in the results of balkan Turk by combining the Turkmen and Bulgarian into crimean tatar mountain. or by annexing the east asian from the Turkmen with some of the bulgarian showing it as crimean tatar steppe while leaving behind Tajik or some Iranian admixture which was supposed to be combined with that east asian to show Turkmen.
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Kaspias
07-31-2021, 09:58 AM
Circassians did have a major role in the ethnogenesis of Turks depending on the province. some ottoman provinces experienced major influxes of them and other north Caucasian refugees, which rapidly assimilated into the Turkish communities and through intermarriage and population growth their genetic influence trickled down to major portions of the Turkish populations of the provinces they settled. The Caucasian refugees also settled in Bulgaria as well and assimilated into the Balkan Turkish communities. Most Bulgarian Turks seem to have none while only some do from the samples posted here, I was
Settlement =/= Contribution to ethnogenesis. Circassians have never had a role in the Turkish ethnic creation process and the people who reported their ancestry with having Circassian ancestor is not added to the ethnic Turkish averages. Caucasians who were settled in Bulgaria were deported to Turkey shortly after, and the assimilation into the Balkan Turkish community have never happened. Anatolian Turks also didn't mix with them in masses but remained on the individual level.
There was only 1 case among around 300 Balkan Turkish samples, he reported his ancestry as "Chechen from Bulgaria", and not added to the averages due to having foreign ancestry.
Thracian
07-31-2021, 10:22 AM
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What model do you use? Or you use the whole spreadsheet without Turkish samples?
Thracian
07-31-2021, 10:27 AM
Settlement =/= Contribution to ethnogenesis. Circassians have never had a role in the Turkish ethnic creation process and the people who reported their ancestry with having Circassian ancestor is not added to the ethnic Turkish averages. Caucasians who were settled in Bulgaria were deported to Turkey shortly after, and the assimilation into the Balkan Turkish community have never happened. Anatolian Turks also didn't mix with them in masses but remained on the individual level.
There was only 1 case among around 300 Balkan Turkish samples, he reported his ancestry as "Chechen from Bulgaria", and not added to the averages due to having foreign ancestry.
I only know a few individuals from Greece have some Circassian ancestry -1/4 or 1/8 usually-.
Usually, Circassians tend to marry with each others. Very rarely they marry with foreigners.
Kaspias
07-31-2021, 10:39 AM
I only know a few individuals from Greece have some Circassian ancestry -1/4 or 1/8 usually-.
Usually, Circassians tend to marry with each others. Very rarely they marry with foreigners.
The one I mentioned was from Veliko Tarnovo, Bulgaria. Caucasians had stayed only for a few years in Bulgaria then headed to Anatolia and Thessaloniki. If there is an influence it should be around Thessaloniki but even that's highly questionable. In any chance, it is not possible that they are able to create a genetic shift in the group averages. It should have been rather limited to certain individuals or simply nonexistent. Take into account that people who acquired such ancestry are aware of it, so they are not registered to the spreadsheet. Eventually, usage of it while running models just creates a false representation of Turkic admixture and absorbs a few percent of Balkan admixture as well.
Thracian
07-31-2021, 10:44 AM
The one I mentioned was from Veliko Tarnovo, Bulgaria. Caucasians had stayed only for a few years in Bulgaria then headed to Anatolia and Thessaloniki. If there is an influence it should be around Thessaloniki but even that's highly questionable. In any chance, it is not possible that they are able to create a genetic shift in the group averages. It should have been rather limited to certain individuals or simply nonexistent. Take into account that people who acquired such ancestry are aware of it, so they are not registered to the spreadsheet. Eventually, usage of it while running models just creates a false representation of Turkic admixture and absorbs a few percent of Balkan admixture as well.
That's correct. The ones I mentioned are from Thessaloniki. Never had met one from Bulgaria claim they have minor Caucasian ancestry. As you said, that would be limited with individual cases.
The same goes for Tatars, I noticed when I add Tatars from Crimea almost all Balkan Turks get them instead of Turkmens.
(Mountain Tatars are not exactly Greco-Turkic by the way, they are a mix of Coast Turks who are Greco-Turkic and Steppe Tatars who are Slavo/Germano-Turkic.)
So the Crimean Tatars actually do have significant Slavic admixture? Does it come from Russian slaves captured by Tatars?
Usually, Circassians tend to marry with each others. Very rarely they marry with foreigners.
Even in Turkey after more than 150 years? Hard to believe. User RatCat was half Circassian half Trabzon Turkish for ex.
Arzanene
07-31-2021, 10:56 AM
What model do you use? Or you use the whole spreadsheet without Turkish samples?
the spreadsheet Without Turkish, crimean tatar, Gagauz, Azeri, and pomak samples to fully separate The Turkmen from the Bulgarian admixture.
I only know a few individuals from Greece have some Circassian ancestry -1/4 or 1/8 usually-.
Usually, Circassians tend to marry with each others. Very rarely they marry with foreigners.
well among the small fraction of the clannish circassians that have kept their culture to the modern day, yes they would be secluded and insular as a culture. they are a small portion of the hundreds of thousands who settled in Anatolia in the 1800s and assimilated into the Turkish populations. In a time when the Anatolian population was a dozen million, a migration of almost a million people would have a big impact genetically especially as it compounds generationally.
Settlement =/= Contribution to ethnogenesis. Circassians have never had a role in the Turkish ethnic creation process and the people who reported their ancestry with having Circassian ancestor is not added to the ethnic Turkish averages. Caucasians who were settled in Bulgaria were deported to Turkey shortly after, and the assimilation into the Balkan Turkish community have never happened. Anatolian Turks also didn't mix with them in masses but remained on the individual level.
If integration didn't happen then what happened to the vast numbers of North Caucasians who settled in Anatolia of which only a small number still identify with the languages and culture.
"Muslim Cherkez (Circassians), who were settled in Bulgaria in the nineteenth century by the Ottoman authorities, appear to have been entirely assimilated within the Turkish community."
https://www.refworld.org/docid/4954ce1523.html
Thracian
07-31-2021, 11:00 AM
Even in Turkey after more than 150 years? Hard to believe. User RatCat was half Circassian half Trabzon Turkish for ex.
Well, I have many Circassian friends and they tell this. I also know most of them married with another Circassians. I also some of them dating with foreigners. RatCat knows better for sure.
Well, I have many Circassian friends and they tell this. I also know most of them married with another Circassians. I also some of them dating with foreigners. RatCat knows better for sure.
I was just thinking since they live in Turkey, speak only Turkish and are Sunni Muslims, there would simply be no reason for them to remain segregated. Even the phenotypical difference between Caucasians and Anatolian Turks is not that significant. Probably something like the Irish and Germans or Romanians and Italians.
Thracian
07-31-2021, 11:08 AM
the spreadsheet Without Turkish, crimean tatar, Gagauz, Azeri, and pomak samples to fully separate The Turkmen from the Bulgarian admixture.
well among the small fraction of the clannish circassians that have kept their culture to the modern day, yes they would be secluded and insular as a culture. they are a small portion of the hundreds of thousands who settled in Anatolia in the 1800s and assimilated into the Turkish populations. In a time when the Anatolian population was a dozen million, a migration of almost a million people would have a big impact genetically especially as it compounds generationally.
If integration didn't happen then what happened to the vast numbers of North Caucasians who settled in Anatolia of which only a small number still identify with the languages and culture.
Thanks. I asked because to see what I get with your model. Anyway, as far as I know, and many people also suggest, modeling with 0.25x is (No-recalculate) better.
Kaspias
07-31-2021, 11:22 AM
If integration didn't happen then what happened to the vast numbers of North Caucasians who settled in Anatolia of which only a small number still identify with the languages and culture.
Not a million of them were settled into the Balkans, it's the total number of people who are expelled which includes the ones that remained outside of the Turkish borders. The population settled in the Balkans was around 250.000. More than half were directly headed to Anatolia and established their own villages without mixing with the local population. The rest were headed to the Southern part of the Balkans, like a quarter of them tried to turn back but then expelled to Central Asia. Some are melted into the Albanian population and created a distinct subgroup, some were migrated to the Europe and USA, some migrated to Turkey together with Balkan Turks. Total disappearance of the identity has never happened, even today if one has Circassian ancestry it should have been known in the family story which will direct us not to add him to the spreadsheet. Integration and assimilation are not necessarily must happen simultaneously.
So the Crimean Tatars actually do have significant Slavic admixture? Does it come from Russian slaves captured by Tatars?
I do not know honestly but it does seem to be a most reasonable explanation as Crimean Tatars do not rich in terms of Slavic Y-DNA. Crimean Khanate has no records as Ottomans have, therefore it is hard to trace all these, I'm making conclusions mostly based on genetic results.
Based on historical records I would expect ancestors of Crimean Tatars to be Karakalpak-like, however, that's just an assumption without much validity.
Rumeika is regarded as a Pontian dialect, therefore I would consider early Greeks of the region to be Pontian-like, while Azov Greeks might have other influencers through time, usage of Pontian would give a clearer result.
I do not know how the Goth profile was but supplied many Germanic samples and the calculator picked German.
Target: Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
Distance: 1.0632% / 1.06321510
57.4 Karakalpak
18.7 Ukrainian
13.4 Greek_Pontus
10.5 German
Target: Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
Distance: 1.0664% / 1.06643568
39.5 Greek_Pontus
23.3 German
17.7 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
11.5 Karakalpak
8.0 Ukrainian
Target: Crimean_Tatar_Coast
Distance: 1.6923% / 1.69230471
35.4 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
33.0 Greek_Pontus
31.1 German
0.5 Ukrainian
That's correct. The ones I mentioned are from Thessaloniki. Never had met one from Bulgaria claim they have minor Caucasian ancestry. As you said, that would be limited with individual cases.
The same goes for Tatars, I noticed when I add Tatars from Crimea almost all Balkan Turks get them instead of Turkmens.
Yes. In many cases Tatar admixture is overrepresented in the runs, mainly due to their native part overlaps with the Balkan Turks. One should be cautious while making conclusions based on these, some other Gedmatch calculators should be checked if it is required.
Thracian
07-31-2021, 11:31 AM
I was just thinking since they live in Turkey, speak only Turkish and are Sunni Muslims, there would simply be no reason for them to remain segregated. Even the phenotypical difference between Caucasians and Anatolian Turks is not that significant. Probably something like the Irish and Germans or Romanians and Italians.
Let alone Circassians, majority of Balkan Turks did not even mix with Anatolian Turks. It should be less than 25%. I will also do not this. Of course, now the things became different due to technological developments, migrations to big cities from villages/ rural areas. Now, people can meet people from different cities easily and can marry. The numbers will be changed dramatically.
We also shouldn't ignore tribalistic mind and cultural differences. Circassians are also known for how nationalists they are. They try to preserve their own culture but as you mentioned they do not speak their languages.
Kaspias
07-31-2021, 11:40 AM
I was just thinking since they live in Turkey, speak only Turkish and are Sunni Muslims, there would simply be no reason for them to remain segregated. Even the phenotypical difference between Caucasians and Anatolian Turks is not that significant. Probably something like the Irish and Germans or Romanians and Italians.
Mixing happens but it is not like a mass transformation of an ethnicity. Circassians still live in Circassian villages and prefer to marry each other(the same for each subgroup lives in Turkey, not something special to Circassians) but it is also not something discrediting to marry someone who is alien to your ethnicity. Circassians speak and identify Turkish but they know that they are Circassians at the end, mostly bearing identities such as "Circassian Turkish" and people see them as a natural part of Turkishness, respecting their Circassian identities. They are pretty much integrated in this sense.
That's why averages of different groups from Turkey are still present, otherwise, it just would be a genetic soup and ethnic Turks would experience certain genetic replacements. As Thracian said even Balkan and Anatolian Turks who are core populations of the nation act pretty conservative when it comes to the mixing of both. However, you can imagine that such traditionalism reduces with the each new generation.
A Crimean Tatar who was brought to the U.S. as a baby shortly after the end of the Soviet Union.
As usual, the V5 raw data may be somewhat deficient.
R-Z93
H13a1a1a
K12b
Gedrosia 9.34 Pct
Siberian 3.43 Pct
Northwest_African 1.29 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 17.52 Pct
North_European 22.31 Pct
South_Asian 1.4 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 7.97 Pct
East_Asian 5.4 Pct
Caucasus 31.33 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to: A.
4.16247523 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
6.58933229 Turk_Trakya
9.61433305 Turk_Deliorman
10.13421926 Turk_Makedonya
10.26437041 Turk_Northwest
11.24605709 Bulgarian_Thrace
11.27665731 Greek_Peloponnese
11.59005608 Greek_Lemnos
12.06310491 Greek_Central
12.07220361 Greek_Foca
Target: A.
Distance: 1.6191% / 1.61905827 | ADC: 0.25x RC
69.7 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
20.8 Pomak_Greece
3.2 Turk_Trakya
2.8 Japanese
2.7 Coptic
0.8 Yemenite_Mahra
Target: A.
Distance: 2.6756% / 2.67559165 | ADC: 0.5x RC
66.2 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
29.4 Turk_Trakya
4.4 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
K13
North_Atlantic 14.11 Pct
Baltic 15.24 Pct
West_Med 13.81 Pct
West_Asian 19.95 Pct
East_Med 21.02 Pct
Red_Sea 4.46 Pct
South_Asian 2.07 Pct
East_Asian 2.61 Pct
Siberian 5.92 Pct
Amerindian 0.23 Pct
Oceanian 0.23 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.35 Pct
Distance to: A.
5.12459755 Turk_Trakya
9.20673123 Turk_Deliorman
9.38908409 Turk_Crete
9.63776945 Greek_Macedonia_Thrace
9.68317097 Greek_Istanbul
10.74315596 Turk_North_West
10.81424061 Turk_Makedonya
13.00825892 Greek_Central
13.24954339 Greek_West_Macedonia
13.26871132 Greek_Northeast
Target: A.
Distance: 1.4057% / 1.40570698 | ADC: 0.25x RC
73.5 Turk_Trakya
15.2 Turk_Central_West
6.0 Nogay
2.7 Saudi
2.6 Tajik_Tajikistan
Target: A.
Distance: 2.1339% / 2.13392702 | ADC: 0.5x RC
69.3 Turk_Trakya
30.7 Turk_North_West
Kaspias
08-23-2021, 06:47 PM
A Crimean Tatar who was brought to the U.S. as a baby shortly after the end of the Soviet Union.
As usual, the V5 raw data may be somewhat deficient.
Thanks for posting Leto. The result is very likely to belong to a Mountain Tatar. Mountain Tatars and Thracian Turks have got a very similar breakdown despite having no relativity in terms of IBD.
Kaspias
09-06-2021, 02:27 PM
Razgrad, from the villages near the Loznitsa(Kubadın).
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 North_European 29.25
2 Caucasus 25.84
3 Atlantic_Med 17.55
4 Southwest_Asian 10.79
5 Siberian 6.4
6 Gedrosia 6.2
7 Northwest_African 1.88
8 South_Asian 1.36
9 Southeast_Asian 0.73
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 11.97
2 Romanians (Behar) 12.78
3 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 13.23
4 Greek (Dodecad) 17.96
5 O_Italian (Dodecad) 18.26
6 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 21.46
7 C_Italian (Dodecad) 21.67
8 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 21.8
9 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 22.99
10 Tuscan (HGDP) 23.12
11 Sicilian (Dodecad) 23.14
12 TSI30 (Metspalu) 23.31
13 Hungarians (Behar) 23.65
14 N_Italian (Dodecad) 24.35
15 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 24.81
16 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 26.93
17 North_Italian (HGDP) 27.15
18 Turkish (Dodecad) 27.24
19 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 28.19
20 Turks (Behar) 28.45
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 55.2% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 44.8% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 4.73
2 60.5% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 39.5% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 4.88
3 61% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) + 39% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 4.98
4 59.2% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 40.8% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 5.05
5 58.7% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 41.3% Russian (HGDP) @ 5.4
6 59.1% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 40.9% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 5.43
7 57.3% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 42.7% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 5.47
8 54.1% Morocco_Jews (Behar) + 45.9% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 6.18
9 56.2% Morocco_Jews (Behar) + 43.8% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 6.26
10 65.8% Greek (Dodecad) + 34.2% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 6.41
11 59.6% Cypriots (Behar) + 40.4% FIN30 (1000Genomes) @ 6.53
12 57.6% Morocco_Jews (Behar) + 42.4% Russian (HGDP) @ 6.65
13 64.1% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 35.9% FIN30 (1000Genomes) @ 6.65
14 54% Cypriots (Behar) + 46% Russian (HGDP) @ 6.78
15 65% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 35% Finnish (Dodecad) @ 6.82
16 64.7% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) + 35.3% Russian (HGDP) @ 6.89
17 64.3% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 35.7% Russian (HGDP) @ 7.09
18 60.4% Cypriots (Behar) + 39.6% Finnish (Dodecad) @ 7.09
19 63.5% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) + 36.5% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 7.1
20 50.5% Cypriots (Behar) + 49.5% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 7.1
Distance to: X
7.34970067 Turk_Deliorman
7.70360954 Turk_Trakya
9.54116345 Pomak_Greece
9.71493181 Turk_Makedonya
10.49078643 Moldovan_Gagauz
10.49227811 Bulgarian_East
11.36320817 Bulgarian_Thrace
11.38953906 Pomak_Bulgaria
11.48736262 Bulgarian_Central
11.84634965 Moldovan_South
12.47825308 Bulgarian_West
12.81928235 Macedonian_Northeast&Skopje
12.98546110 Romanian
13.09995802 Greek_Thessaloniki
13.19378263 Greek_Macedonia
13.33132026 Macedonian_South
13.36921464 Greek_Thessaly
13.47129170 Macedonian_Polog
13.56562568 Greek_Thrace
13.71221718 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
13.77450181 Macedonian_Vardar
13.79477075 Macedonian_East
13.82383811 Greek_Peloponnese
14.33111301 Albanian_Kosovo
14.83554852 Montenegrin
Distance to: X
3.05984207 55.80% Greek_Cypriot + 44.20% Veps
3.13889101 51.00% Greek_Cypriot + 49.00% Russian_Ural
3.16613376 55.00% Nusayri_Turkey + 45.00% Veps
3.19601690 60.00% Turk_Cyprus + 40.00% Veps
3.19742550 48.80% Lebanese_Christian + 51.20% Russian_Ural
3.26345863 48.40% Palestinian_Christian + 51.60% Russian_Ural
3.42809128 48.20% Jordanian_Christian + 51.80% Russian_Ural
3.45313478 52.00% Russian_Ural + 48.00% Syrian_SW_Christian
3.48407088 53.00% Nusayri_Turkey + 47.00% Russian_Northern_Dvina
3.55269404 44.60% Russian_Ural + 55.40% Turk_Cyprus
3.56444492 51.60% Lebanese_Christian + 48.40% Russian_Northern_Dvina
3.61495103 53.80% Greek_Cypriot + 46.20% Russian_Northern_Dvina
3.61980119 53.60% Lebanese_Christian + 46.40% Veps
3.62856715 50.40% Nusayri_Turkey + 49.60% Russian_Ural
3.68830907 37.60% Finnish_East + 62.40% Turk_Cyprus
3.70364415 42.00% Russian_Northern_Dvina + 58.00% Turk_Cyprus
3.75515829 47.00% North_Russian + 53.00% Nusayri_Turkey
3.76864958 44.40% Karelian + 55.60% Nusayri_Turkey
3.76961067 42.60% Finnish_East + 57.40% Nusayri_Turkey
3.77239395 41.80% Finnish_East + 58.20% Greek_Cypriot
3.77897516 51.60% Lebanese_Christian + 48.40% North_Russian
3.91869271 51.20% Nusayri_Turkey + 48.80% Russian_Kostroma
3.92605269 50.60% Greek_Cypriot + 49.40% Komi
3.92893018 49.60% Lebanese_Christian + 50.40% Russian_Kostroma
3.94682823 39.40% Karelian + 60.60% Turk_Cyprus
Kaspias
10-04-2021, 08:45 PM
"Deliorman" he didn't state the specific town.
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 North_European 30.58
2 Caucasus 26.49
3 Atlantic_Med 20.04
4 Southwest_Asian 8.24
5 Gedrosia 7.15
6 Siberian 5.26
7 Southeast_Asian 2.23
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 9.31
2 Romanians (Behar) 10.05
3 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 10.58
4 O_Italian (Dodecad) 16.33
5 Greek (Dodecad) 16.99
6 C_Italian (Dodecad) 20.36
7 Tuscan (HGDP) 21.25
8 Hungarians (Behar) 21.31
9 TSI30 (Metspalu) 21.4
10 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 21.95
11 N_Italian (Dodecad) 22.03
12 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 22.37
13 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 22.81
14 Sicilian (Dodecad) 23.01
15 North_Italian (HGDP) 24.94
16 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 25.45
17 German (Dodecad) 26.49
18 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 27.78
19 Turkish (Dodecad) 27.92
20 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 29.23
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 67% Greek (Dodecad) + 33% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 5.07
2 60.9% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 39.1% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 5.32
3 55.9% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 44.1% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 5.34
4 59.7% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 40.3% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 5.39
5 58.4% Hungarians (Behar) + 41.6% Turks (Behar) @ 5.71
6 62.4% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 37.6% Russian (HGDP) @ 5.74
7 57.4% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 42.6% Russian (HGDP) @ 5.79
8 59.6% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 40.4% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 5.85
9 90.9% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 9.1% Ket (Rasmussen) @ 5.87
10 57.1% Hungarians (Behar) + 42.9% Turkish (Dodecad) @ 5.91
11 90.6% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 9.4% Selkup (Rasmussen) @ 5.94
12 92.6% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 7.4% Yakut (HGDP) @ 5.94
13 60.8% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 39.2% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 5.95
14 93.1% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 6.9% Evenk (Rasmussen) @ 5.98
15 79.5% Romanians (Behar) + 20.5% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 6
16 92.2% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 7.8% Dolgan (Rasmussen) @ 6.01
17 93.9% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 6.1% Nganassan (Rasmussen) @ 6.01
18 92.7% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 7.3% Yukagir (Rasmussen) @ 6.02
19 79.2% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 20.8% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 6.05
20 66.5% Hungarians (Behar) + 33.5% Iranian_Jews (Behar) @ 6.12
Distance to: X
4.81474818 Turk_Deliorman
6.55460907 Pomak_Greece
6.72194168 Turk_Trakya
7.40559923 Moldovan_Gagauz
7.53620594 Bulgarian_East
7.61340922 Turk_Makedonya
8.27455739 Pomak_Bulgaria
8.32647585 Bulgarian_Central
8.72676916 Moldovan_South
9.26915854 Bulgarian_West
9.49079554 Bulgarian_Thrace
9.75947232 Romanian
9.81908855 Macedonian_Northeast&Skopje
10.24463762 Greek_Macedonia
10.38342911 Macedonian_Polog
10.81737491 Macedonian_East
10.84160505 Macedonian_South
10.94002742 Macedonian_Vardar
11.45656144 Greek_Thessaloniki
11.60471456 Greek_Thessaly
11.69560601 Montenegrin
11.85355221 Greek_Thrace
11.86302238 Albanian_Kosovo
12.88497575 Greek_Peloponnese
13.56631859 Albanian
Distance to: X
4.77722925 65.80% Italian_Apulia + 34.20% Komi
4.78305203 88.60% Bulgarian_East + 11.40% Tatar_Zabolotniye
4.95047712 66.00% Italian_Apulia + 34.00% Russian_Ural
5.13456492 87.00% Bulgarian_East + 13.00% Tatar_Siberia
5.16360607 89.60% Moldovan_Gagauz + 10.40% Tatar_Zabolotniye
5.16699453 13.80% Bashkir_South + 86.20% Bulgarian_East
5.17260158 58.80% Italian_Apulia + 41.20% Tatar_Mishar
5.20102222 28.00% Assyrian_South + 72.00% Moldovan_North
5.23769081 28.20% Assyrian_West + 71.80% Moldovan_North
5.24857615 78.20% Moldovan_South + 21.80% Nogai
5.25625634 28.00% Assyrian_North + 72.00% Moldovan_North
5.26432781 58.40% Italian_Calabria + 41.60% Russian_Ural
5.29477620 90.40% Bulgarian_East + 9.60% Shor
5.31408253 68.60% Italian_Apulia + 31.40% Russian_Northern_Dvina
5.32022509 94.00% Bulgarian_East + 6.00% Evenk
5.32437339 94.20% Bulgarian_East + 5.80% Yukagir
5.33673945 93.60% Bulgarian_East + 6.40% Sakha_Yakutia
5.34039011 27.60% Mandean + 72.40% Moldovan_North
5.34193104 9.80% Altaian_Chelkan + 90.20% Bulgarian_East
5.34714533 33.00% Azerbaijani_Turkey + 67.00% Moldovan_North
5.38583675 81.00% Moldovan_South + 19.00% Turkmen_Iran
5.41919108 15.80% Bashkir_Central + 84.20% Bulgarian_East
5.42827203 82.40% Bulgarian_Central + 17.60% Turkmen_Iran
5.43422439 83.00% Bulgarian_Central + 17.00% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
5.44187762 82.20% Moldovan_South + 17.80% Turkmen_TM
Kaspias
10-05-2021, 03:41 PM
^
He turns out to be from Ruse.
Hektor12
10-05-2021, 03:46 PM
^
He turns out to be from Ruse.
Why those 2 above lack any east_asian?
Kaspias
10-05-2021, 04:00 PM
Why those 2 above lack any east_asian?
Honestly, I'm not sure. Anatolian Turks and Crimean Tatars tend to be more balanced when it comes to the distribution of East Asian and Siberian, and the same trend somewhat applies to Balkan Turks as well, but there are also many cases in which are Siberian is greatly dominant over the rest of two components. It is more noticeable in Eurogenes K13 rather than Dodecad K12b. It could be just random inheritance or might be related to the population Ottoman ancestor mixed, like having pre-Ottoman Turkic or having noise Siberian scores related to the Slavic migration.
Hektor12
10-05-2021, 05:13 PM
Honestly, I'm not sure. Anatolian Turks and Crimean Tatars tend to be more balanced when it comes to the distribution of East Asian and Siberian, and the same trend somewhat applies to Balkan Turks as well, but there are also many cases in which are Siberian is greatly dominant over the rest of two components. It is more noticeable in Eurogenes K13 rather than Dodecad K12b. It could be just random inheritance or might be related to the population Ottoman ancestor mixed, like having pre-Ottoman Turkic or having noise Siberian scores related to the Slavic migration.
And they still retain good chunk of Southeast_Asian which is more eastern than East_Asian if im not mistaken. Any possibily of calculator flaws?
Kaspias
10-05-2021, 08:05 PM
And they still retain good chunk of Southeast_Asian which is more eastern than East_Asian if im not mistaken. Any possibily of calculator flaws?
Yes, it might be balancing the Asian admixture by isolating it from the rest of the components. 8% Siberian and 2% Southeast Asian might be equal to 5% Siberian and 5% East Asian, for example.
Two alleged Balkan Turks from Karafet et al (2018)
K12b
Turk:Turk156,10.07,2.35,0.00,0.00,24.88,28.25,0.00 ,0.00,8.16,0.34,25.95,0.00
Turk:Turk174,9.11,3.98,1.99,0.00,26.46,27.77,0.00, 0.00,8.16,0.51,22.04,0.00
K13
Turk:Turk156,21.05,18.33,15.52,17.68,19.43,4.08,1. 81,0.00,2.09,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Turk:Turk174,21.70,21.10,14.89,11.59,20.99,3.92,0. 00,0.00,4.81,0.17,0.00,0.21,0.62
Kaspias
11-05-2021, 10:11 AM
Two alleged Balkan Turks from Karafet et al (2018)
K12b
Turk:Turk156,10.07,2.35,0.00,0.00,24.88,28.25,0.00 ,0.00,8.16,0.34,25.95,0.00
Turk:Turk174,9.11,3.98,1.99,0.00,26.46,27.77,0.00, 0.00,8.16,0.51,22.04,0.00
K13
Turk:Turk156,21.05,18.33,15.52,17.68,19.43,4.08,1. 81,0.00,2.09,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Turk:Turk174,21.70,21.10,14.89,11.59,20.99,3.92,0. 00,0.00,4.81,0.17,0.00,0.21,0.62
Looks like to be from Deliorman. One is even Gagauz-like.
catgeorge
11-05-2021, 11:02 AM
Target: Sarakatsani
Distance: 5.9386% / 5.93861716
100.0 Turk_Makedonya
Too far away to be considered autochtonous.
Kaspias
11-05-2021, 11:23 AM
Target: Sarakatsani
Distance: 5.9386% / 5.93861716
100.0 Turk_Makedonya
Too far away to be considered autochtonous.
Where were you exactly from? You are kind of a good proxy for the native part of Macedonian Turks.
Target: Turk_Makedonya
Distance: 2.3605% / 2.36045920
53.3 Macedonian_South
32.9 Greek_Thessaloniki
13.8 Ottoman_MA2196
catgeorge
11-05-2021, 11:28 AM
Where were you exactly from? You are kind of a good proxy for the native part of Macedonian Turks.
Target: Turk_Makedonya
Distance: 2.3605% / 2.36045920
53.3 Macedonian_South
32.9 Greek_Thessaloniki
13.8 Ottoman_MA2196
Epirus, Thrace and Macedonia.
vbnetkhio
11-05-2021, 08:28 PM
not all of these are Balkan, but I think this is a good place to post them
old Turkish academic samples, ran trough k13 by Komintasavalta:
_North_AtlanticBalticWest_MedWest_AsianEast_MedRed _SeaSouth_AsianEast_AsianSiberianAmerindianOceania nNortheast_AfricanSub-Saharan
Turkish_Adana_o1:Adana231089.29013.7121.2940.211.5 12.3200001.680
Turkish_Adana_o1:Adana231365.334.6814.0122.8139.04 10.711.0600002.370
Turkish_Adana_o1:Adana231475.884.813.8121.334.238. 843.970.373.041.2801.510.97
Turkish_Adana_o2:Adana2315012.5512.9712.4324.6921. 764.392.710.334.741.11.3210
Turkish_Adana:Adana231127.830.3212.3929.424.725.97 5.273.079.050.010.9900.98
Turkish_Adana:Adana231133.823.55.4141.4331.215.576 .1300.541.311.0900
Turkish_Adana:Adana231146.277.9211.0431.3229.465.2 92.11.394.30.2500.660
Turkish_Adana:Adana231176.715.9311.1928.1327.846.9 63.492.525.990.6300.610
Turkish_Adana:Adana231336.364.9710.9129.4528.658.5 94.842.032.66001.550
Turkish_Adana:Adana231447.635.948.0329.1624.342.73 9.122.268.5300.7201.54
Turkish_Aydin_o1:Aydin1841418.2430.216.029.9718.48 5.430.30000.700.65
Turkish_Aydin_o2:Aydin189486.74.789.9133.1132.883. 882.270.564.990.67000.24
Turkish_Aydin:Aydin181126.868.9414.9125.4223.273.2 52.372.469.430.940.840.730.59
Turkish_Aydin:Aydin184198.3811.5611.8922.9528.542. 0705.67.920.520.3900.18
Turkish_Aydin:Aydin184837.874.598.142927.012.722.8 76.898.780.6701.290.17
Turkish_Aydin:Aydin185873.6712.3712.0626.2223.066. 7102.618.5801.310.113.29
Turkish_Aydin:Aydin185967.3710.2410.525.8122.775.0 60.216.87.472.601.170
Turkish_Aydin:Aydin186366.258.3410.2730.7924.495.9 60.382.119.630.830.3400.59
Turkish_Aydin:Aydin187846.7211.0116.3520.8123.714. 663.512.518.570.31.6600.2
Turkish_Aydin:Aydin1887311.3711.4410.6518.8928.484 .32.722.467.081.210.380.770.24
Turkish_Balikesir_o:Balikesir165149.496.9918.2117. 9726.651.991.514.761.4900.24.146.61
Turkish_Balikesir_o:Balikesir1655813.253.0215.7319 .5530.695.181.880.922.810.580.022.194.18
Turkish_Balikesir_o:Balikesir1656312.679.8919.1120 .6528.185.740.741.2201.8000
Turkish_Balikesir_o:Balikesir1657711.6114.121718.3 31.644.1400.9100.280.351.660
Turkish_Balikesir:Balikesir166539.876.949.7526.062 5.091.315.272.188.671.071.190.552.04
Turkish_Balikesir:Balikesir1667513.076.7515.1523.2 121.614.381.474.299.3900.40.30
Turkish_Balikesir:Balikesir1679013.336.810.0525.72 5.272.684.283.037.450.9200.490
Turkish_Balikesir:Balikesir1683713.5510.111.5225.1 21.762.481.653.59.0501.2900
Turkish_Balikesir:Balikesir1688710.79.512.2722.412 2.094.23.564.1910.1500.9200
Turkish_Balikesir:Balikesir1700611.379.2213.4324.2 819.844.43.643.0910.0400.1400.54
Turkish_Balikesir:Turkish8BA6217.9212.9711.8619.94 20.144.153.661.746.190.9500.460
Turkish_Istanbul_o:Istanbul1578121.4514.7512.6515. 4424.554.571.240.061.880.891.421.10
Turkish_Istanbul_o:Istanbul2509521.1620.2910.2714. 2119.134.571.913.633.790.950.1100
Turkish_Istanbul_o:Istanbul2509823.0722.3716.248.8 23.752.2502.46000.810.250
Turkish_Istanbul:Istanbul177786.323.0911.6433.6827 .323.211.454.667.740.040.200.64
Turkish_Istanbul:Istanbul191857.919.115.4525.4524. 624.185.92.964.040.170.2300
Turkish_Istanbul:Istanbul197088.275.519.1125.8929. 093.166.184.436.671.71000
Turkish_Istanbul:Istanbul198106.196.5514.2233.1927 .2706.693.140.91.040.4700.34
Turkish_Istanbul:Istanbul200102.835.4414.8235.3826 .573.535.811.123.120.450.8600.07
Turkish_Istanbul:Istanbul200406.64.125.6936.2730.2 76.38.321.730.130.58000
Turkish_Istanbul:Istanbul250817.7113.9811.7327.582 6.092.92.893.23.5900.200.13
Turkish_Istanbul:Turkish7BA579.659.7517.2422.925.0 13.063.352.965.56000.510
Turkish_Izmir:Turkish9BA577.213.5213.8930.8626.963 .71.773.636.230.981.2500
Turkish_Kayseri:Kayseri232711.56.9113.4532.2234.62 4.942.070.33.3800.6100
Turkish_Kayseri:Kayseri235498.570.8210.1230.0631.9 46.213.332.726.1600.0700
Turkish_Kayseri:Kayseri238921.817.0214.6228.8730.1 53.776.192.474.280.81000
Turkish_Kayseri:Kayseri239675.985.9912.1132.2827.6 45.162.591.945.6100.700
Turkish_Kayseri:Kayseri240325.342.310.6433.1429.86 5.732.71.894.271.281.221.650
Turkish_Kayseri:Kayseri240754.98.7212.8831.6227.96 .361.423.51.440.220.520.310.2
Turkish_Kayseri:Kayseri242664.66.4610.6631.229.654 .985.411.83.440.82000.98
Turkish_Kayseri:Kayseri242764.735.4114.2133.3227.5 5.783.022.553.490000
Turkish_Kayseri:Kayseri243927.224.6313.5429.0130.7 83.313.783.550.821.670.31.410
Turkish_Kayseri:Kayseri244029.525.5512.6627.9528.5 24.864.5905.450.89000.01
Turkish_Kayseri:S_Turkish-1.DG4.157.0513.3930.2930.223.321.843.054.170.231.2 910
Turkish_Kayseri:S_Turkish-2.DG7.173.4913.73130.983.743.822.183.920000
Turkish_Kutahya:Turkish4BA578.049.2815.7726.4420.2 84.433.651.898.560.471.2100
Turkish_Trabzon_o:Trabzon215292.5710.8310.1432.663 0.264.391.470.314.881.381.1300
Turkish_Trabzon:Trabzon211732.4013.4440.5937.254.0 81.630.43000.1700
Turkish_Trabzon:Trabzon211743.84.1710.0737.7438.74 3.181.05001.180.0700
Turkish_Trabzon:Trabzon2117702.514.0142.1135.262.9 91.920.9500.260.0100
Turkish_Trabzon:Trabzon215151.96.4516.6135.3836.53 2.500.28000.3300
Turkish_Trabzon:Trabzon215341.263.2116.3531.839.62 2.931.7300.990.141.9800
Turkish_Trabzon:Trabzon2154403.3715.3239.9436.224. 490.300.0900.2600
Turkish_Trabzon:Trabzon2155701.3216.6737.4638.432. 971.1100.4501.600
Turkish_Trabzon:Trabzon215752.113.6915.5536.7535.6 72.521.970.511.060.0900.090
Turkish_Trabzon:Trabzon216455.864.7611.4636.1433.0 24.731.750.630.3701.0300.25
Turkish_Adana6.444.769.8331.4827.75.855.161.885.18 0.370.470.470.42
Turkish_Aydin7.319.8111.8524.9925.174.341.513.938. 430.880.620.510.66
Turkish_Balikesir12.838.91223.8122.263.373.363.158 .710.420.560.260.37
Turkish_Istanbul6.947.1912.4930.0427.033.295.073.0 33.970.50.250.060.15
Turkish_Izmir7.213.5213.8930.8626.963.71.773.636.2 30.981.2500
Turkish_Kayseri5.465.3612.6730.9129.984.853.42.163 .870.490.390.360.1
Turkish_Kutahya8.049.2815.7726.4420.284.433.651.89 8.560.471.2100
Turkish_Trabzon1.933.2714.3937.5536.753.381.270.31 0.330.190.610.010.03
Turkish_Adana_o16.833.1613.8421.837.8210.352.450.1 21.010.4301.850.32
Turkish_Balikesir_o11.768.5117.5119.1229.294.261.0 31.951.080.670.1422.7
Turkish_Istanbul_o21.8919.1413.0512.8222.483.81.05 2.051.890.610.780.450
Turkish_Adana_o1:Adana23108,9.29,0,13.71,21.29,40. 2,11.51,2.32,0,0,0,0,1.68,0
Turkish_Adana_o1:Adana23136,5.33,4.68,14.01,22.81, 39.04,10.71,1.06,0,0,0,0,2.37,0
Turkish_Adana_o1:Adana23147,5.88,4.8,13.81,21.3,34 .23,8.84,3.97,0.37,3.04,1.28,0,1.51,0.97
Turkish_Adana_o2:Adana23150,12.55,12.97,12.43,24.6 9,21.76,4.39,2.71,0.33,4.74,1.1,1.32,1,0
Turkish_Adana:Adana23112,7.83,0.32,12.39,29.4,24.7 2,5.97,5.27,3.07,9.05,0.01,0.99,0,0.98
Turkish_Adana:Adana23113,3.82,3.5,5.41,41.43,31.21 ,5.57,6.13,0,0.54,1.31,1.09,0,0
Turkish_Adana:Adana23114,6.27,7.92,11.04,31.32,29. 46,5.29,2.1,1.39,4.3,0.25,0,0.66,0
Turkish_Adana:Adana23117,6.71,5.93,11.19,28.13,27. 84,6.96,3.49,2.52,5.99,0.63,0,0.61,0
Turkish_Adana:Adana23133,6.36,4.97,10.91,29.45,28. 65,8.59,4.84,2.03,2.66,0,0,1.55,0
Turkish_Adana:Adana23144,7.63,5.94,8.03,29.16,24.3 4,2.73,9.12,2.26,8.53,0,0.72,0,1.54
Turkish_Aydin_o1:Aydin18414,18.24,30.2,16.02,9.97, 18.48,5.43,0.3,0,0,0,0.7,0,0.65
Turkish_Aydin_o2:Aydin18948,6.7,4.78,9.91,33.11,32 .88,3.88,2.27,0.56,4.99,0.67,0,0,0.24
Turkish_Aydin:Aydin18112,6.86,8.94,14.91,25.42,23. 27,3.25,2.37,2.46,9.43,0.94,0.84,0.73,0.59
Turkish_Aydin:Aydin18419,8.38,11.56,11.89,22.95,28 .54,2.07,0,5.6,7.92,0.52,0.39,0,0.18
Turkish_Aydin:Aydin18483,7.87,4.59,8.14,29,27.01,2 .72,2.87,6.89,8.78,0.67,0,1.29,0.17
Turkish_Aydin:Aydin18587,3.67,12.37,12.06,26.22,23 .06,6.71,0,2.61,8.58,0,1.31,0.11,3.29
Turkish_Aydin:Aydin18596,7.37,10.24,10.5,25.81,22. 77,5.06,0.21,6.8,7.47,2.6,0,1.17,0
Turkish_Aydin:Aydin18636,6.25,8.34,10.27,30.79,24. 49,5.96,0.38,2.11,9.63,0.83,0.34,0,0.59
Turkish_Aydin:Aydin18784,6.72,11.01,16.35,20.81,23 .71,4.66,3.51,2.51,8.57,0.3,1.66,0,0.2
Turkish_Aydin:Aydin18873,11.37,11.44,10.65,18.89,2 8.48,4.3,2.72,2.46,7.08,1.21,0.38,0.77,0.24
Turkish_Balikesir_o:Balikesir16514,9.49,6.99,18.21 ,17.97,26.65,1.99,1.51,4.76,1.49,0,0.2,4.14,6.61
Turkish_Balikesir_o:Balikesir16558,13.25,3.02,15.7 3,19.55,30.69,5.18,1.88,0.92,2.81,0.58,0.02,2.19,4 .18
Turkish_Balikesir_o:Balikesir16563,12.67,9.89,19.1 1,20.65,28.18,5.74,0.74,1.22,0,1.8,0,0,0
Turkish_Balikesir_o:Balikesir16577,11.61,14.12,17, 18.3,31.64,4.14,0,0.91,0,0.28,0.35,1.66,0
Turkish_Balikesir:Balikesir16653,9.87,6.94,9.75,26 .06,25.09,1.31,5.27,2.18,8.67,1.07,1.19,0.55,2.04
Turkish_Balikesir:Balikesir16675,13.07,6.75,15.15, 23.21,21.61,4.38,1.47,4.29,9.39,0,0.4,0.3,0
Turkish_Balikesir:Balikesir16790,13.33,6.8,10.05,2 5.7,25.27,2.68,4.28,3.03,7.45,0.92,0,0.49,0
Turkish_Balikesir:Balikesir16837,13.55,10.1,11.52, 25.1,21.76,2.48,1.65,3.5,9.05,0,1.29,0,0
Turkish_Balikesir:Balikesir16887,10.7,9.5,12.27,22 .41,22.09,4.2,3.56,4.19,10.15,0,0.92,0,0
Turkish_Balikesir:Balikesir17006,11.37,9.22,13.43, 24.28,19.84,4.4,3.64,3.09,10.04,0,0.14,0,0.54
Turkish_Balikesir:Turkish8BA62,17.92,12.97,11.86,1 9.94,20.14,4.15,3.66,1.74,6.19,0.95,0,0.46,0
Turkish_Istanbul_o:Istanbul15781,21.45,14.75,12.65 ,15.44,24.55,4.57,1.24,0.06,1.88,0.89,1.42,1.1,0
Turkish_Istanbul_o:Istanbul25095,21.16,20.29,10.27 ,14.21,19.13,4.57,1.91,3.63,3.79,0.95,0.11,0,0
Turkish_Istanbul_o:Istanbul25098,23.07,22.37,16.24 ,8.8,23.75,2.25,0,2.46,0,0,0.81,0.25,0
Turkish_Istanbul:Istanbul17778,6.32,3.09,11.64,33. 68,27.32,3.21,1.45,4.66,7.74,0.04,0.2,0,0.64
Turkish_Istanbul:Istanbul19185,7.91,9.1,15.45,25.4 5,24.62,4.18,5.9,2.96,4.04,0.17,0.23,0,0
Turkish_Istanbul:Istanbul19708,8.27,5.51,9.11,25.8 9,29.09,3.16,6.18,4.43,6.67,1.71,0,0,0
Turkish_Istanbul:Istanbul19810,6.19,6.55,14.22,33. 19,27.27,0,6.69,3.14,0.9,1.04,0.47,0,0.34
Turkish_Istanbul:Istanbul20010,2.83,5.44,14.82,35. 38,26.57,3.53,5.81,1.12,3.12,0.45,0.86,0,0.07
Turkish_Istanbul:Istanbul20040,6.6,4.12,5.69,36.27 ,30.27,6.3,8.32,1.73,0.13,0.58,0,0,0
Turkish_Istanbul:Istanbul25081,7.71,13.98,11.73,27 .58,26.09,2.9,2.89,3.2,3.59,0,0.2,0,0.13
Turkish_Istanbul:Turkish7BA57,9.65,9.75,17.24,22.9 ,25.01,3.06,3.35,2.96,5.56,0,0,0.51,0
Turkish_Izmir:Turkish9BA57,7.21,3.52,13.89,30.86,2 6.96,3.7,1.77,3.63,6.23,0.98,1.25,0,0
Turkish_Kayseri:Kayseri23271,1.5,6.91,13.45,32.22, 34.62,4.94,2.07,0.3,3.38,0,0.61,0,0
Turkish_Kayseri:Kayseri23549,8.57,0.82,10.12,30.06 ,31.94,6.21,3.33,2.72,6.16,0,0.07,0,0
Turkish_Kayseri:Kayseri23892,1.81,7.02,14.62,28.87 ,30.15,3.77,6.19,2.47,4.28,0.81,0,0,0
Turkish_Kayseri:Kayseri23967,5.98,5.99,12.11,32.28 ,27.64,5.16,2.59,1.94,5.61,0,0.7,0,0
Turkish_Kayseri:Kayseri24032,5.34,2.3,10.64,33.14, 29.86,5.73,2.7,1.89,4.27,1.28,1.22,1.65,0
Turkish_Kayseri:Kayseri24075,4.9,8.72,12.88,31.62, 27.9,6.36,1.42,3.5,1.44,0.22,0.52,0.31,0.2
Turkish_Kayseri:Kayseri24266,4.6,6.46,10.66,31.2,2 9.65,4.98,5.41,1.8,3.44,0.82,0,0,0.98
Turkish_Kayseri:Kayseri24276,4.73,5.41,14.21,33.32 ,27.5,5.78,3.02,2.55,3.49,0,0,0,0
Turkish_Kayseri:Kayseri24392,7.22,4.63,13.54,29.01 ,30.78,3.31,3.78,3.55,0.82,1.67,0.3,1.41,0
Turkish_Kayseri:Kayseri24402,9.52,5.55,12.66,27.95 ,28.52,4.86,4.59,0,5.45,0.89,0,0,0.01
Turkish_Kayseri:S_Turkish-1.DG,4.15,7.05,13.39,30.29,30.22,3.32,1.84,3.05,4. 17,0.23,1.29,1,0
Turkish_Kayseri:S_Turkish-2.DG,7.17,3.49,13.7,31,30.98,3.74,3.82,2.18,3.92,0 ,0,0,0
Turkish_Kutahya:Turkish4BA57,8.04,9.28,15.77,26.44 ,20.28,4.43,3.65,1.89,8.56,0.47,1.21,0,0
Turkish_Trabzon_o:Trabzon21529,2.57,10.83,10.14,32 .66,30.26,4.39,1.47,0.31,4.88,1.38,1.13,0,0
Turkish_Trabzon:Trabzon21173,2.4,0,13.44,40.59,37. 25,4.08,1.63,0.43,0,0,0.17,0,0
Turkish_Trabzon:Trabzon21174,3.8,4.17,10.07,37.74, 38.74,3.18,1.05,0,0,1.18,0.07,0,0
Turkish_Trabzon:Trabzon21177,0,2.5,14.01,42.11,35. 26,2.99,1.92,0.95,0,0.26,0.01,0,0
Turkish_Trabzon:Trabzon21515,1.9,6.45,16.61,35.38, 36.53,2.5,0,0.28,0,0,0.33,0,0
Turkish_Trabzon:Trabzon21534,1.26,3.21,16.35,31.8, 39.62,2.93,1.73,0,0.99,0.14,1.98,0,0
Turkish_Trabzon:Trabzon21544,0,3.37,15.32,39.94,36 .22,4.49,0.3,0,0.09,0,0.26,0,0
Turkish_Trabzon:Trabzon21557,0,1.32,16.67,37.46,38 .43,2.97,1.11,0,0.45,0,1.6,0,0
Turkish_Trabzon:Trabzon21575,2.11,3.69,15.55,36.75 ,35.67,2.52,1.97,0.51,1.06,0.09,0,0.09,0
Turkish_Trabzon:Trabzon21645,5.86,4.76,11.46,36.14 ,33.02,4.73,1.75,0.63,0.37,0,1.03,0,0.25
Turkish_Adana,6.44,4.76,9.83,31.48,27.70,5.85,5.16 ,1.88,5.18,0.37,0.47,0.47,0.42
Turkish_Aydin,7.31,9.81,11.85,24.99,25.17,4.34,1.5 1,3.93,8.43,0.88,0.62,0.51,0.66
Turkish_Balikesir,12.83,8.90,12.00,23.81,22.26,3.3 7,3.36,3.15,8.71,0.42,0.56,0.26,0.37
Turkish_Istanbul,6.94,7.19,12.49,30.04,27.03,3.29, 5.07,3.03,3.97,0.50,0.25,0.06,0.15
Turkish_Izmir,7.21,3.52,13.89,30.86,26.96,3.70,1.7 7,3.63,6.23,0.98,1.25,0.00,0.00
Turkish_Kayseri,5.46,5.36,12.67,30.91,29.98,4.85,3 .40,2.16,3.87,0.49,0.39,0.36,0.10
Turkish_Kutahya,8.04,9.28,15.77,26.44,20.28,4.43,3 .65,1.89,8.56,0.47,1.21,0.00,0.00
Turkish_Trabzon,1.93,3.27,14.39,37.55,36.75,3.38,1 .27,0.31,0.33,0.19,0.61,0.01,0.03
Turkish_Adana_o1,6.83,3.16,13.84,21.80,37.82,10.35 ,2.45,0.12,1.01,0.43,0.00,1.85,0.32
Turkish_Balikesir_o,11.76,8.51,17.51,19.12,29.29,4 .26,1.03,1.95,1.08,0.67,0.14,2.00,2.70
Turkish_Istanbul_o,21.89,19.14,13.05,12.82,22.48,3 .80,1.05,2.05,1.89,0.61,0.78,0.45,0.00
vbnetkhio
11-05-2021, 08:32 PM
could any of these be used to improve the current Turkish K13 averages, or are they ok as they are?
distances to current averages:
<div class="panel leftpanel" id="distanceoutput"><table class="distances"><tbody><tr><th>Distance to:</th><th>Turkish_Istanbul_o</th></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(80.57720456385671, 100%, 50%)">4.92784943</td><td>Turk_Makedonya</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(68.26393134379072, 100%, 50%)">6.46700858</td><td>Turk_Deliorman</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(66.63292400739948, 100%, 50%)">6.67088450</td><td>Vlach(Aromanian)_average</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(65.21109601388252, 100%, 50%)">6.84861300</td><td>Bulgaria_Northeastern</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(62.86991685635317, 100%, 50%)">7.14126039</td><td>Bulgaria_Southeastern</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(60.8363895625022, 100%, 50%)">7.39545130</td><td>Moldova_South_Gagauzia</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(58.52974703159259, 100%, 50%)">7.68378162</td><td>Bulgaria_Southcentral</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(56.98904222280066, 100%, 50%)">7.87636972</td><td>Bulgaria_Northcentral</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(56.00970073518956, 100%, 50%)">7.99878741</td><td>Macedonian-South</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(55.71563176012384, 100%, 50%)">8.03554603</td><td>Bulgaria_average</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(55.23230434854118, 100%, 50%)">8.09596196</td><td>Macedonian-North</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(54.09665258881003, 100%, 50%)">8.23791843</td><td>Pomak_Greece</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(52.67041066514663, 100%, 50%)">8.41619867</td><td>Bulgaria_Southwestern</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(51.85182027375933, 100%, 50%)">8.51852247</td><td>Greek_Thessaly</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(51.7996363646058, 100%, 50%)">8.52504545</td><td>Romania_Muntenia</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(51.546453707642, 100%, 50%)">8.55669329</td><td>Greek_Northeast</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(50.69967965442005, 100%, 50%)">8.66254004</td><td>Turk_Trakya</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(50.17228057569116, 100%, 50%)">8.72846493</td><td>Macedonian-Central</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(49.656477199389585, 100%, 50%)">8.79294035</td><td>Pomak_Bulgaria</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(49.340433061049694, 100%, 50%)">8.83244587</td><td>Romania_Wallachia</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(48.29335316722724, 100%, 50%)">8.96333085</td><td>Greek_West_Macedonia</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(47.32934567516266, 100%, 50%)">9.08383179</td><td>Romania_Dobruja</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(47.206198066044095, 100%, 50%)">9.09922524</td><td>Greek_Northern-Thrace</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(46.059743035339665, 100%, 50%)">9.24253212</td><td>Greek</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(44.41477393035065, 100%, 50%)">9.44815326</td><td>Greek_Central_Macedonia</td></tr></tbody></table><br><hr><table class="distances"><tbody><tr><th>Distance to:</th><th>Turkish_Balikesir_o</th></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(70.40832327900175, 100%, 50%)">6.19895959</td><td>Greek_Crete</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(65.92053254700082, 100%, 50%)">6.75993343</td><td>Greek_Chios</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(62.78187699688149, 100%, 50%)">7.15226538</td><td>Greek_North_Aegean</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(62.68180044697845, 100%, 50%)">7.16477494</td><td>Greek_Dodecanese</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(55.98815109684769, 100%, 50%)">8.00148111</td><td>Greek_Ionia</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(49.98610423637318, 100%, 50%)">8.75173697</td><td>Turk_Crete</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(49.61900256461266, 100%, 50%)">8.79762468</td><td>Malta</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(49.1112872172163, 100%, 50%)">8.86108910</td><td>Greek_Cyclades</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(46.40973977488596, 100%, 50%)">9.19878253</td><td>Italian_Calabria</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(45.99537311762188, 100%, 50%)">9.25057836</td><td>Greek_Andros_Island</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(44.32981036101468, 100%, 50%)">9.45877370</td><td>Italian_Campania</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(41.41857725899844, 100%, 50%)">9.82267784</td><td>Greek_Macedonia_Thrace</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(40.22291055697758, 100%, 50%)">9.97213618</td><td>Italian_Sicily</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(37.189643159807616, 100%, 50%)">10.35129461</td><td>Greek_Symi_Island</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(36.771466431277304, 100%, 50%)">10.40356670</td><td>Italian_Apulia</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(36.19649649328497, 100%, 50%)">10.47543794</td><td>Greek_Central</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(35.25039233129159, 100%, 50%)">10.59370096</td><td>Greek_Athens</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(33.569560917463804, 100%, 50%)">10.80380489</td><td>Greek_Istanbul</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(31.128605277063443, 100%, 50%)">11.10892434</td><td>Italian_Basilicata</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(30.000817781493154, 100%, 50%)">11.24989778</td><td>Italian_Molise</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(27.920868813829458, 100%, 50%)">11.50989140</td><td>Ashkenazi</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(26.3627082835049, 100%, 50%)">11.70466146</td><td>Moldova_Jewish</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(25.630513406080226, 100%, 50%)">11.79618582</td><td>Turk_Cypriot</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(25.186870107563692, 100%, 50%)">11.85164124</td><td>Italian_Abruzzo</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(20.187535848472322, 100%, 50%)">12.47655802</td><td>Turk_Central_West</td></tr></tbody></table><br><hr><table class="distances"><tbody><tr><th>Distance to:</th><th>Turkish_Adana_o1</th></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(90.25505757275702, 100%, 50%)">3.71811780</td><td>Nusayri</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(88.1437227535922, 100%, 50%)">3.98203466</td><td>Lebanese_Muslim</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(73.16691767564299, 100%, 50%)">5.85413529</td><td>Syrian</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(67.03722061673878, 100%, 50%)">6.62034742</td><td>Turk_Cypriot</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(56.6479297891537, 100%, 50%)">7.91900878</td><td>Greek_Cypriot</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(44.10841416863131, 100%, 50%)">9.48644823</td><td>Greek_Cappadocian</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(37.95357411806411, 100%, 50%)">10.25580324</td><td>Jordanian</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(29.622586892520516, 100%, 50%)">11.29717664</td><td>Samaritan</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(28.040565464983445, 100%, 50%)">11.49492932</td><td>Palestinian</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(26.648500815466278, 100%, 50%)">11.66893740</td><td>Iraqi_Baghdad</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(26.264644877186285, 100%, 50%)">11.71691939</td><td>Greek_Dodecanese</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(25.664394844788333, 100%, 50%)">11.79195064</td><td>Lebanese_Druze</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(25.574206913576845, 100%, 50%)">11.80322414</td><td>Lebanese_Christian</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(22.65893364052353, 100%, 50%)">12.16763329</td><td>Greek_Chios</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(21.450422629013758, 100%, 50%)">12.31869717</td><td>Assyrian_West</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(20.720354553413117, 100%, 50%)">12.40995568</td><td>Kurdish_Jewish</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(19.05001634472643, 100%, 50%)">12.61874796</td><td>Assyrian_South</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(17.97176861280012, 100%, 50%)">12.75352892</td><td>Iraqi_Jew</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(17.765352252770967, 100%, 50%)">12.77933097</td><td>Tunisian_Jewish</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(17.444087444945453, 100%, 50%)">12.81948907</td><td>Mandean</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(16.072917870268284, 100%, 50%)">12.99088527</td><td>Greek_Symi_Island</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(15.5553199057032, 100%, 50%)">13.05558501</td><td>Assyrian_North</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(13.116257550551666, 100%, 50%)">13.36046781</td><td>Libyan_Jewish</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(8.271328657322712, 100%, 50%)">13.96608392</td><td>Mountain_Jew_Chechnya</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(7.074537857930366, 100%, 50%)">14.11568277</td><td>Sephardic_Jewish</td></tr></tbody></table><br><hr><table class="distances"><tbody><tr><th>Distance to:</th><th>Turkish_Trabzon</th></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(105.24829501379584, 100%, 50%)">1.84396312</td><td>Greek_Caucasus</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(104.62688060281845, 100%, 50%)">1.92163992</td><td>Greek_Trabzon</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(86.73740839922421, 100%, 50%)">4.15782395</td><td>Armenian_West</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(85.85742833353058, 100%, 50%)">4.26782146</td><td>Armenian</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(81.979794845372, 100%, 50%)">4.75252564</td><td>Turk_East_Black_Sea</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(76.76964029758716, 100%, 50%)">5.40379496</td><td>Armenian_East</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(67.98855510563084, 100%, 50%)">6.50143061</td><td>Georgian_Jewish</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(53.29031254757672, 100%, 50%)">8.33871093</td><td>Mountain_Jew_Chechnya</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(53.11114891104796, 100%, 50%)">8.36110639</td><td>Assyrian_North</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(49.7094942399758, 100%, 50%)">8.78631322</td><td>Assyrian_West</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(48.68575457876595, 100%, 50%)">8.91428068</td><td>Assyrian_South</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(45.9247085729661, 100%, 50%)">9.25941143</td><td>Laz</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(42.67491998064277, 100%, 50%)">9.66563500</td><td>Turk_East</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(39.470432759141175, 100%, 50%)">10.06619591</td><td>Turk_South_East</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(30.588591331978222, 100%, 50%)">11.17642608</td><td>Turk_Meskhetian</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(29.907922656872884, 100%, 50%)">11.26150967</td><td>Turkmen_Iraq</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(29.452580379118473, 100%, 50%)">11.31842745</td><td>Kurd_Kurmanji_Turkey</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(26.26956097403577, 100%, 50%)">11.71630488</td><td>Zaza</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(25.252064930152727, 100%, 50%)">11.84349188</td><td>Greek_Cappadocian</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(23.15178060490736, 100%, 50%)">12.10602742</td><td>Mandean</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(22.518235551463277, 100%, 50%)">12.18522056</td><td>Turk_Turkey_average</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(18.773537056755742, 100%, 50%)">12.65330787</td><td>Kurd_Iran</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(18.082323417377694, 100%, 50%)">12.73970957</td><td>Kurdish_Jewish</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(17.02309385109689, 100%, 50%)">12.87211327</td><td>Kurd_Sorani</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(13.449519944769847, 100%, 50%)">13.31881001</td><td>Iraqi_Jew</td></tr></tbody></table><br><hr><table class="distances"><tbody><tr><th>Distance to:</th><th>Turkish_Kutahya</th></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(70.83884460267436, 100%, 50%)">6.14514442</td><td>Turk_North_West</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(49.15553938380221, 100%, 50%)">8.85555758</td><td>Turk_Anatolia</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(47.65597744111818, 100%, 50%)">9.04300282</td><td>Turk_South</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(42.25633916517695, 100%, 50%)">9.71795760</td><td>Turk_Central_West</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(29.290512072881825, 100%, 50%)">11.33868599</td><td>Turk_Central_Black_Sea</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(25.62847887206651, 100%, 50%)">11.79644014</td><td>Turk_Central_East</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(19.491978429580072, 100%, 50%)">12.56350270</td><td>Turk_Turkey_average</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(-6.287544912394239, 100%, 50%)">15.78594311</td><td>Azerbaijani_Turkey</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(-7.176375164572107, 100%, 50%)">15.89704690</td><td>Turk_South_East</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(-7.39886341722206, 100%, 50%)">15.92485793</td><td>Turk_Trakya</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(-13.262063619020978, 100%, 50%)">16.65775795</td><td>Turk_East</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(-15.983128365249797, 100%, 50%)">16.99789105</td><td>Azeri</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(-16.947896661467553, 100%, 50%)">17.11848708</td><td>Greek_Macedonia_Thrace</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(-18.660240876756006, 100%, 50%)">17.33253011</td><td>Azerbaijani_Iran</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(-19.78470302576028, 100%, 50%)">17.47308788</td><td>Greek_Istanbul</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(-19.93481911232817, 100%, 50%)">17.49185239</td><td>Turk_Crete</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(-24.053390102419996, 100%, 50%)">18.00667376</td><td>Turkmen</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(-26.383452616748997, 100%, 50%)">18.29793158</td><td>Greek_Chios</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(-28.584618315625107, 100%, 50%)">18.57307729</td><td>Nogay</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(-32.319222687092235, 100%, 50%)">19.03990284</td><td>Kumyk</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(-32.65725269373871, 100%, 50%)">19.08215659</td><td>Greek_Crete</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(-35.37322291823648, 100%, 50%)">19.42165286</td><td>Greek_Dodecanese</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(-35.75954802194312, 100%, 50%)">19.46994350</td><td>Greek_Cappadocian</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(-36.78406041431637, 100%, 50%)">19.59800755</td><td>Greek_Ionia</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(-38.61054693808984, 100%, 50%)">19.82631837</td><td>Greek_North_Aegean</td></tr></tbody></table><br><hr><table class="distances"><tbody><tr><th>Distance to:</th><th>Turkish_Kayseri</th></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(99.39351558368092, 100%, 50%)">2.57581055</td><td>Turk_Turkey_average</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(91.91418863554054, 100%, 50%)">3.51072642</td><td>Turk_Central_East</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(85.75971962731614, 100%, 50%)">4.28003505</td><td>Turk_South_East</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(84.0030223490916, 100%, 50%)">4.49962221</td><td>Turk_Central_Black_Sea</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(73.50045161509632, 100%, 50%)">5.81244355</td><td>Turk_Anatolia</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(72.69307027506436, 100%, 50%)">5.91336622</td><td>Turk_East</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(68.04906930573816, 100%, 50%)">6.49386634</td><td>Turk_South</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(67.6221115354962, 100%, 50%)">6.54723606</td><td>Turk_Central_West</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(61.828721863792616, 100%, 50%)">7.27140977</td><td>Azerbaijani_Turkey</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(54.85135765037002, 100%, 50%)">8.14358029</td><td>Azeri</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(50.57640746835409, 100%, 50%)">8.67794907</td><td>Azerbaijani_Iran</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(50.034065431811754, 100%, 50%)">8.74574182</td><td>Turkmen_Iraq</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(36.55190835016059, 100%, 50%)">10.43101146</td><td>Zaza</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(36.219028413368235, 100%, 50%)">10.47262145</td><td>Kurd_Kurmanji_Turkey</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(35.925632919420664, 100%, 50%)">10.50929589</td><td>Greek_Cappadocian</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(35.77018105207635, 100%, 50%)">10.52872737</td><td>Armenian_West</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(35.75962013380993, 100%, 50%)">10.53004748</td><td>Armenian</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(32.02287570055499, 100%, 50%)">10.99714054</td><td>Greek_Trabzon</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(31.967787713814687, 100%, 50%)">11.00402654</td><td>Armenian_East</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(31.599384617526567, 100%, 50%)">11.05007692</td><td>Turk_North_West</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(28.914492920113787, 100%, 50%)">11.38568838</td><td>Iraqi_Baghdad</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(28.511473943450156, 100%, 50%)">11.43606576</td><td>Georgian_Jewish</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(26.430876887725418, 100%, 50%)">11.69614039</td><td>Kurd_Sorani</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(25.988358167724797, 100%, 50%)">11.75145523</td><td>Mountain_Jew_Chechnya</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(24.553797351597026, 100%, 50%)">11.93077533</td><td>Greek_Caucasus</td></tr></tbody></table><br><hr><table class="distances"><tbody><tr><th>Distance to:</th><th>Turkish_Izmir</th></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(89.06574714010374, 100%, 50%)">3.86678161</td><td>Turk_Central_Black_Sea</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(82.98117235783931, 100%, 50%)">4.62735346</td><td>Turk_Turkey_average</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(78.3760837978933, 100%, 50%)">5.20298953</td><td>Turk_Anatolia</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(75.33706682269963, 100%, 50%)">5.58286665</td><td>Turk_Central_East</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(72.94673656376213, 100%, 50%)">5.88165793</td><td>Turk_Central_West</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(72.45838875258855, 100%, 50%)">5.94270141</td><td>Turk_South</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(58.300807136559726, 100%, 50%)">7.71239911</td><td>Turk_South_East</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(48.75403730736737, 100%, 50%)">8.90574534</td><td>Turk_East</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(47.26209241392766, 100%, 50%)">9.09223845</td><td>Turk_North_West</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(45.126068621982995, 100%, 50%)">9.35924142</td><td>Azerbaijani_Turkey</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(33.71974965265804, 100%, 50%)">10.78503129</td><td>Azeri</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(31.656090192928403, 100%, 50%)">11.04298873</td><td>Azerbaijani_Iran</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(23.201520673101484, 100%, 50%)">12.09980992</td><td>Turkmen_Iraq</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(15.74299447998709, 100%, 50%)">13.03212569</td><td>Greek_Cappadocian</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(11.894214770901371, 100%, 50%)">13.51322315</td><td>Zaza</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(9.234055775251946, 100%, 50%)">13.84574303</td><td>Kurd_Kurmanji_Turkey</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(8.660145500364521, 100%, 50%)">13.91748181</td><td>Greek_Trabzon</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(8.17891433186675, 100%, 50%)">13.97763571</td><td>Armenian</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(6.800763253456523, 100%, 50%)">14.14990459</td><td>Armenian_East</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(6.647960759411134, 100%, 50%)">14.16900491</td><td>Armenian_West</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(2.8579528947867487, 100%, 50%)">14.64275589</td><td>Turk_East_Black_Sea</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(0.8952326730789366, 100%, 50%)">14.88809592</td><td>Greek_Caucasus</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(-1.5150492737422496, 100%, 50%)">15.18938116</td><td>Kurd_Sorani</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(-3.4408813967236824, 100%, 50%)">15.43011017</td><td>Iraqi_Baghdad</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(-5.010489159910122, 100%, 50%)">15.62631114</td><td>Georgian_Jewish</td></tr></tbody></table><br><hr><table class="distances"><tbody><tr><th>Distance to:</th><th>Turkish_Istanbul</th></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(88.23586928625309, 100%, 50%)">3.97051634</td><td>Turk_Anatolia</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(86.21583803022486, 100%, 50%)">4.22302025</td><td>Turk_Turkey_average</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(85.28949438570508, 100%, 50%)">4.33881320</td><td>Turk_Central_East</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(80.04714778642206, 100%, 50%)">4.99410653</td><td>Turk_Central_Black_Sea</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(78.92905649975887, 100%, 50%)">5.13386794</td><td>Turk_South</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(77.86908023790603, 100%, 50%)">5.26636497</td><td>Turk_Central_West</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(63.618669756735976, 100%, 50%)">7.04766628</td><td>Turk_South_East</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(59.9558029448307, 100%, 50%)">7.50552463</td><td>Azerbaijani_Turkey</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(57.35770119160697, 100%, 50%)">7.83028735</td><td>Turk_East</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(55.36500019339367, 100%, 50%)">8.07937498</td><td>Turk_North_West</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(50.640968864898326, 100%, 50%)">8.66987889</td><td>Azeri</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(44.848228231132154, 100%, 50%)">9.39397147</td><td>Azerbaijani_Iran</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(30.092634339560362, 100%, 50%)">11.23842071</td><td>Turkmen_Iraq</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(25.79345245684884, 100%, 50%)">11.77581844</td><td>Zaza</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(24.058184299024248, 100%, 50%)">11.99272696</td><td>Kurd_Kurmanji_Turkey</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(14.09178313275217, 100%, 50%)">13.23852711</td><td>Kurd_Sorani</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(12.369580508110971, 100%, 50%)">13.45380244</td><td>Greek_Cappadocian</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(6.78826915906636, 100%, 50%)">14.15146636</td><td>Talysh</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(6.464638107768366, 100%, 50%)">14.19192024</td><td>Iraqi_Baghdad</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(6.180606221962336, 100%, 50%)">14.22742422</td><td>Armenian</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(5.854128414558971, 100%, 50%)">14.26823395</td><td>Armenian_East</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(4.6867778613397775, 100%, 50%)">14.41415277</td><td>Kurdish</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(3.978291686426175, 100%, 50%)">14.50271354</td><td>Kurd_Iran</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(3.6638250585829013, 100%, 50%)">14.54202187</td><td>Armenian_West</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(2.2013650333757226, 100%, 50%)">14.72482937</td><td>Greek_Trabzon</td></tr></tbody></table><br><hr><table class="distances"><tbody><tr><th>Distance to:</th><th>Turkish_Balikesir</th></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(78.03117347363641, 100%, 50%)">5.24610332</td><td>Turk_North_West</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(53.118995222858686, 100%, 50%)">8.36012560</td><td>Turk_Central_West</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(49.77608384602863, 100%, 50%)">8.77798952</td><td>Turk_Anatolia</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(46.62325163922837, 100%, 50%)">9.17209355</td><td>Turk_South</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(24.703376764966123, 100%, 50%)">11.91207790</td><td>Turk_Central_East</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(18.59464313952641, 100%, 50%)">12.67566961</td><td>Turk_Central_Black_Sea</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(14.652210274728617, 100%, 50%)">13.16847372</td><td>Turk_Trakya</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(9.12929331874895, 100%, 50%)">13.85883834</td><td>Turk_Turkey_average</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(4.754425681503946, 100%, 50%)">14.40569679</td><td>Turk_Crete</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(4.389785918371388, 100%, 50%)">14.45127676</td><td>Greek_Istanbul</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(-2.191875343657756, 100%, 50%)">15.27398442</td><td>Greek_Macedonia_Thrace</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(-13.144084359764179, 100%, 50%)">16.64301054</td><td>Greek_Andros_Island</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(-14.246674446706493, 100%, 50%)">16.78083431</td><td>Azerbaijani_Turkey</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(-15.816652881743465, 100%, 50%)">16.97708161</td><td>Turk_South_East</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(-17.453666375255295, 100%, 50%)">17.18170830</td><td>Turk_Deliorman</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(-18.58297730962485, 100%, 50%)">17.32287216</td><td>Turkmen</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(-19.137066233265102, 100%, 50%)">17.39213328</td><td>Greek_Cyclades</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(-19.275542720177526, 100%, 50%)">17.40944284</td><td>Greek_Chios</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(-19.512086931563033, 100%, 50%)">17.43901087</td><td>Greek_Ionia</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(-20.654538497696535, 100%, 50%)">17.58181731</td><td>Greek_Crete</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(-20.752287370401206, 100%, 50%)">17.59403592</td><td>Azeri</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(-22.133863663801094, 100%, 50%)">17.76673296</td><td>Greek_Central</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(-23.430696853916174, 100%, 50%)">17.92883711</td><td>Turk_Makedonya</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(-25.02940943132876, 100%, 50%)">18.12867618</td><td>Turk_East</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(-25.088750770002832, 100%, 50%)">18.13609385</td><td>Greek_North_Aegean</td></tr></tbody></table><br><hr><table class="distances"><tbody><tr><th>Distance to:</th><th>Turkish_Aydin</th></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(96.09659438489987, 100%, 50%)">2.98792570</td><td>Turk_North_West</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(75.20142859420625, 100%, 50%)">5.59982143</td><td>Turk_Anatolia</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(73.94208862746812, 100%, 50%)">5.75723892</td><td>Turk_South</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(70.45138145215348, 100%, 50%)">6.19357732</td><td>Turk_Central_West</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(54.61572054384938, 100%, 50%)">8.17303493</td><td>Turk_Central_East</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(49.41628516435253, 100%, 50%)">8.82296435</td><td>Turk_Central_Black_Sea</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(36.14126163601074, 100%, 50%)">10.48234230</td><td>Turk_Turkey_average</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(10.375885864468685, 100%, 50%)">13.70301427</td><td>Turk_South_East</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(7.20139007948724, 100%, 50%)">14.09982624</td><td>Azerbaijani_Turkey</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(-0.655171459825965, 100%, 50%)">15.08189643</td><td>Azeri</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(-1.8196962728113135, 100%, 50%)">15.22746203</td><td>Turk_East</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(-6.383340674315136, 100%, 50%)">15.79791758</td><td>Turk_Trakya</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(-7.2337816776661015, 100%, 50%)">15.90422271</td><td>Azerbaijani_Iran</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(-9.102006181158941, 100%, 50%)">16.13775077</td><td>Turk_Crete</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(-12.481135260836282, 100%, 50%)">16.56014191</td><td>Greek_Macedonia_Thrace</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(-13.488504373972205, 100%, 50%)">16.68606305</td><td>Greek_Istanbul</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(-13.676959869679848, 100%, 50%)">16.70961998</td><td>Greek_Chios</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(-16.53940090684449, 100%, 50%)">17.06742511</td><td>Greek_Cappadocian</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(-19.14242487465856, 100%, 50%)">17.39280311</td><td>Greek_Crete</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(-20.321687561117955, 100%, 50%)">17.54021095</td><td>Turkmen</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(-21.231497903265193, 100%, 50%)">17.65393724</td><td>Greek_Dodecanese</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(-21.837067087556505, 100%, 50%)">17.72963339</td><td>Turkmen_Iraq</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(-25.872799383572556, 100%, 50%)">18.23409992</td><td>Iraqi_Baghdad</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(-28.09851856112536, 100%, 50%)">18.51231482</td><td>Greek_North_Aegean</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(-29.06524745895672, 100%, 50%)">18.63315593</td><td>Turk_Cypriot</td></tr></tbody></table><br><hr><table class="distances"><tbody><tr><th>Distance to:</th><th>Turkish_Adana</th></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(90.87813192805105, 100%, 50%)">3.64023351</td><td>Turk_Turkey_average</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(85.18014359593079, 100%, 50%)">4.35248205</td><td>Turk_Central_East</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(84.74177542756868, 100%, 50%)">4.40727807</td><td>Turk_Central_Black_Sea</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(82.15534912302667, 100%, 50%)">4.73058136</td><td>Turk_South_East</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(78.98870399511861, 100%, 50%)">5.12641200</td><td>Azerbaijani_Turkey</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(78.61115126027303, 100%, 50%)">5.17360609</td><td>Turk_South</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(76.97769880631674, 100%, 50%)">5.37778765</td><td>Turk_Anatolia</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(75.95565870625376, 100%, 50%)">5.50554266</td><td>Azeri</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(69.67650250628441, 100%, 50%)">6.29043719</td><td>Turk_East</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(69.4578512526426, 100%, 50%)">6.31776859</td><td>Turk_Central_West</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(67.80130269824733, 100%, 50%)">6.52483716</td><td>Azerbaijani_Iran</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(56.42767897897703, 100%, 50%)">7.94654013</td><td>Turkmen_Iraq</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(44.60056233631447, 100%, 50%)">9.42492971</td><td>Zaza</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(43.15147366409687, 100%, 50%)">9.60606579</td><td>Kurd_Kurmanji_Turkey</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(37.411632780396985, 100%, 50%)">10.32354590</td><td>Kurd_Sorani</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(33.31288446372206, 100%, 50%)">10.83588944</td><td>Turk_North_West</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(29.66005534648582, 100%, 50%)">11.29249308</td><td>Iraqi_Baghdad</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(27.639038549828868, 100%, 50%)">11.54512018</td><td>Kurdish</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(25.447986800914705, 100%, 50%)">11.81900165</td><td>Talysh</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(24.926706168346087, 100%, 50%)">11.88416173</td><td>Kurd_Iran</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(22.761258749405854, 100%, 50%)">12.15484266</td><td>Lor_Iran</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(21.6625239290737, 100%, 50%)">12.29218451</td><td>Iranian</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(20.87218755566127, 100%, 50%)">12.39097656</td><td>Armenian_East</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(20.51910736226779, 100%, 50%)">12.43511158</td><td>Armenian</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(16.921063257326907, 100%, 50%)">12.88486709</td><td>Armenian_West</td></tr></tbody></table><br><hr></div>
Kaspias
11-05-2021, 09:08 PM
could any of these be used to improve the current Turkish K13 averages, or are they ok as they are?
The current Anatolian Turkish averages were collected by TurkishDNA with a certain methodology and had got a decent amount of sample size despite I don't recall the exact amount. Balkan Turks, on the other hand, have got ~30 sizes for each of the three. I think these are providing an effective representation already.
I'm going to upload these Balkan Turkish outliers to the Gedmatch, though. Then I can classify them according to their matches and add them to the archive.
vbnetkhio
11-05-2021, 09:46 PM
The current Anatolian Turkish averages were collected by TurkishDNA with a certain methodology and had got a decent amount of sample size despite I don't recall the exact amount. Balkan Turks, on the other hand, have got ~30 sizes for each of the three. I think these are providing an effective representation already.
I'm going to upload these Balkan Turkish outliers to the Gedmatch, though. Then I can classify them according to their matches and add them to the archive.
this dataset has higher quality versions:
https://data.mendeley.com/datasets/ckz9mtgrjj/3
not all the samples that Komin ran are there under the same name, but those 3 Balkan Turks from Istanbul are.
Kaspias
11-05-2021, 10:05 PM
this dataset has higher quality versions:
https://data.mendeley.com/datasets/ckz9mtgrjj/3
not all the samples that Komin ran are there under the same name, but those 3 Balkan Turks from Istanbul are.
Thanks!
Kaspias
01-16-2022, 05:51 AM
It has been some time.
Veliko Tarnovo, Bulgaria.
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 28.77
2 North_European 24.81
3 Atlantic_Med 20.4
4 Gedrosia 9.2
5 Southwest_Asian 8.25
6 East_Asian 4.13
7 Siberian 3.29
8 Sub_Saharan 0.62
9 Northwest_African 0.48
10 South_Asian 0.04
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 12.37
2 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 13.56
3 Romanians (Behar) 13.66
4 Greek (Dodecad) 13.71
5 O_Italian (Dodecad) 14.02
6 C_Italian (Dodecad) 17.04
7 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 17.45
8 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 18.03
9 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 18.17
10 Sicilian (Dodecad) 18.47
11 Tuscan (HGDP) 18.55
12 TSI30 (Metspalu) 19.13
13 N_Italian (Dodecad) 21.27
14 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 22.17
15 Turkish (Dodecad) 22.47
16 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 22.79
17 North_Italian (HGDP) 23.98
18 Turks (Behar) 24.02
19 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 24.49
20 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 25.56
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 65% Turkish (Dodecad) + 35% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 4.06
2 64.8% Turkish (Dodecad) + 35.2% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 4.13
3 67.8% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 32.2% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 4.44
4 58.1% Turkish (Dodecad) + 41.9% German (Dodecad) @ 4.48
5 56.4% Turks (Behar) + 43.6% German (Dodecad) @ 4.48
6 63.4% Turks (Behar) + 36.6% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 4.51
7 63.3% Turks (Behar) + 36.7% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 4.82
8 70.3% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 29.7% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 4.93
9 59.4% Turks (Behar) + 40.6% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 5.23
10 54.3% Turkish (Dodecad) + 45.7% Hungarians (Behar) @ 5.29
11 61.1% Turkish (Dodecad) + 38.9% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 5.33
12 52.5% Turks (Behar) + 47.5% Hungarians (Behar) @ 5.38
13 68.1% Romanians (Behar) + 31.9% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 5.41
14 58.1% Turks (Behar) + 41.9% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) @ 5.54
15 61.6% Turks (Behar) + 38.4% British_Isles (Dodecad) @ 5.55
16 59.8% Turkish (Dodecad) + 40.2% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) @ 5.6
17 62.5% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 37.5% Nogais (Yunusbayev) @ 5.62
18 63.3% Turkish (Dodecad) + 36.7% British_Isles (Dodecad) @ 5.77
19 60.6% Turks (Behar) + 39.4% CEU30 (1000Genomes) @ 5.79
20 60.7% Turks (Behar) + 39.3% English (Dodecad) @ 5.81
Distance to: result
2.44051224 Turk_Trakya
5.35299916 Turk_Deliorman
6.22400193 Turk_Makedonya
7.57835074 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
7.87504921 Bulgarian_Thrace
9.32441419 Moldovan_Gagauz
9.34011777 Greek_Peloponnese
9.46186028 Greek_Thessaloniki
9.61740610 Greek_Thrace
9.74419827 Greek_Thessaly
9.83502923 Bulgarian_East
10.30906882 Pomak_Greece
10.64540746 Greek_Central
11.15585048 Albanian
11.23307616 Greek_Macedonia
11.25126215 Greek_Athens
11.35860027 Macedonian_South
11.36113991 Albanian_Kosovo
11.65066522 Bulgarian_Central
11.70714312 Macedonian_Vardar
11.79189976 Macedonian_Northeast&Skopje
11.92493606 Pomak_Bulgaria
12.01969218 Greek_Lemnos
12.10023553 Greek_Foca
12.27999186 Macedonian_Polog
Distance to: result
2.68132106 68.60% Macedonian_Northeast&Skopje + 31.40% Turkmen_Iran
2.73296902 81.60% Bulgarian_Thrace + 18.40% Uzbeki
2.74645416 78.00% Bulgarian_Thrace + 22.00% Turkmen_Turkmenistan
2.80518221 80.80% Bulgarian_Thrace + 19.20% Turkmen_Afghanistan
2.87687147 69.60% Greek_Macedonia + 30.40% Turkmen_Iran
2.88000765 78.80% Bulgarian_Thrace + 21.20% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
2.92725751 80.40% Bulgarian_Thrace + 19.60% Uzbek
3.04788004 76.20% Bulgarian_Thrace + 23.80% Kipchak_DA179
3.09450695 77.60% Bulgarian_Thrace + 22.40% Turkmen_Iran
3.10524514 83.60% Bulgarian_Thrace + 16.40% Karluk_DA230
3.21835233 72.80% Bulgarian_East + 27.20% Turkmen_Iran
3.23369607 85.20% Bulgarian_Thrace + 14.80% Karluk_DA222
3.23838925 69.60% Macedonian_South + 30.40% Turkmen_Iran
3.29347990 67.40% Macedonian_East + 32.60% Turkmen_Iran
3.39094820 86.20% Bulgarian_Thrace + 13.80% Hazara
3.55162907 68.40% Bulgarian_East + 31.60% Ottoman_MA2196
3.57196009 85.20% Bulgarian_Thrace + 14.80% Kimak_DA87
3.57961152 69.80% Albanian_Kosovo + 30.20% Turkmen_Iran
3.61588128 83.80% Bulgarian_Thrace + 16.20% Ottoman_MA2195
3.62276303 84.80% Bulgarian_Thrace + 15.20% Uyghur_Xinjiang
3.62598320 75.80% Bulgarian_Thrace + 24.20% Nogai
3.70945744 74.00% Bulgarian_Thrace + 26.00% Ottoman_MA2196
3.73719954 67.00% Macedonian_South + 33.00% Nogai
3.76650756 84.40% Bulgarian_Thrace + 15.60% Nogai_Stavropol
3.77991611 69.20% Macedonian_Vardar + 30.80% Turkmen_Iran
Kaspias
01-16-2022, 06:02 AM
1/2 Pleven & 1/2 Kavala. 2nd Highest North Euro, highest Atlantic Med + North Euro.
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 North_European 35.38
2 Atlantic_Med 25.54
3 Caucasus 24.79
4 Southwest_Asian 6.97
5 Gedrosia 4.55
6 Siberian 2.4
7 Northwest_African 0.35
8 East_Asian 0.01
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanians (Behar) 4.65
2 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 5.69
3 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 6.35
4 Hungarians (Behar) 14.84
5 O_Italian (Dodecad) 15.24
6 Greek (Dodecad) 18.41
7 N_Italian (Dodecad) 18.45
8 TSI30 (Metspalu) 19.69
9 Tuscan (HGDP) 19.98
10 German (Dodecad) 20.02
11 C_Italian (Dodecad) 20.26
12 North_Italian (HGDP) 21.42
13 French (Dodecad) 23.46
14 Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) 23.49
15 French (HGDP) 23.6
16 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 24.98
17 Dutch (Dodecad) 25.07
18 Sicilian (Dodecad) 25.1
19 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 25.11
20 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 25.17
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 61.5% C_Italian (Dodecad) + 38.5% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 1.79
2 62.8% C_Italian (Dodecad) + 37.2% Russian (HGDP) @ 2.07
3 71.9% Hungarians (Behar) + 28.1% Cypriots (Behar) @ 2.28
4 68.1% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 31.9% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.44
5 63% Hungarians (Behar) + 37% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) @ 2.57
6 69.4% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 30.6% Russian (HGDP) @ 2.7
7 63.2% Hungarians (Behar) + 36.8% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) @ 2.82
8 68.8% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 31.2% Russian_B (Behar) @ 2.88
9 62.2% C_Italian (Dodecad) + 37.8% Russian_B (Behar) @ 2.91
10 63.1% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 36.9% FIN30 (1000Genomes) @ 2.97
11 55.6% Hungarians (Behar) + 44.4% Greek (Dodecad) @ 3.02
12 64% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 36% Finnish (Dodecad) @ 3.02
13 70.1% Greek (Dodecad) + 29.9% FIN30 (1000Genomes) @ 3.07
14 86% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 14% Argyll (1000Genomes) @ 3.08
15 86.3% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 13.7% Orcadian (HGDP) @ 3.11
16 86.3% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 13.7% Irish (Dodecad) @ 3.11
17 57% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 43% Russian (Dodecad) @ 3.12
18 86.3% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 13.7% Orkney (1000Genomes) @ 3.12
19 85.9% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 14.1% British (Dodecad) @ 3.12
20 53.6% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 46.4% Polish (Dodecad) @ 3.14
Distance to: result
2.60656863 Romanian
2.67132926 Moldovan_South
2.75347054 Bulgarian_West
3.36939164 Pomak_Bulgaria
3.45040577 Montenegrin
3.82838086 Bulgarian_Central
5.18461185 Pomak_Greece
5.72505895 Bulgarian_East
5.78597442 Serb
6.10366283 Macedonian_Polog
6.11954247 Macedonian_Northeast&Skopje
6.36627049 Moldovan_Gagauz
6.63369430 Macedonian_East
6.66688083 Moldovan_Central
7.55233077 Greek_Macedonia
8.03052302 Macedonian_Vardar
8.50354632 Macedonian_South
9.15746144 Turk_Deliorman
9.39073480 Bosnian
9.78198344 Moldovan_North
10.12987167 Turk_Makedonya
10.16383294 Hungarian_Transylvania+Székely
10.30950047 Albanian_Kosovo
10.66718801 Croat_South
10.88447978 Bulgarian_Thrace
Distance to: result
1.25913649 83.20% Macedonian_Northeast&Skopje + 16.80% Russian_Ural
1.30781382 86.00% Macedonian_Northeast&Skopje + 14.00% Veps
1.35996683 84.80% Macedonian_Northeast&Skopje + 15.20% Russian_Northern_Dvina
1.45635539 83.40% Macedonian_Northeast&Skopje + 16.60% Russian_Kostroma
1.49790231 82.00% Macedonian_Northeast&Skopje + 18.00% Mordovian
1.53887009 94.80% Bulgarian_West + 5.20% Saami_Sweden
1.54894695 12.80% Finnish_East + 87.20% Macedonian_Northeast&Skopje
1.58215115 83.20% Greek_Macedonia + 16.80% Veps
1.60034255 81.80% Greek_Macedonia + 18.20% Russian_Northern_Dvina
1.62263491 13.80% Karelian + 86.20% Macedonian_Northeast&Skopje
1.63078675 91.40% Bulgarian_Central + 8.60% Veps
1.63685430 84.60% Macedonian_Northeast&Skopje + 15.40% North_Russian
1.67911263 15.80% Komi + 84.20% Macedonian_Northeast&Skopje
1.69176099 90.60% Bulgarian_Central + 9.40% Russian_Northern_Dvina
1.69383311 92.20% Bulgarian_Central + 7.80% Finnish_East
1.71101357 90.40% Bulgarian_Central + 9.60% North_Russian
1.72042394 93.60% Bulgarian_West + 6.40% Chuvash
1.72098026 94.40% Bulgarian_West + 5.60% Mari
1.72117862 80.40% Greek_Macedonia + 19.60% Russian_Kostroma
1.72476466 93.60% Bulgarian_West + 6.40% Komi
1.72780570 69.20% Greek_Thrace + 30.80% Russian
1.73291371 93.40% Pomak_Bulgaria + 6.60% Saami_Sweden
1.73612941 91.60% Bulgarian_Central + 8.40% Karelian
1.74725861 89.80% Bulgarian_Central + 10.20% Russian_Kostroma
1.75794278 70.40% Greek_Thrace + 29.60% Russian_Kostroma
Kaspias
01-16-2022, 06:16 AM
Kavala, Sarışaban.
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 31.17
2 North_European 25.05
3 Atlantic_Med 20.5
4 Gedrosia 10.76
5 Southwest_Asian 6.21
6 Siberian 2.63
7 East_Asian 2.34
8 Northwest_African 0.69
9 East_African 0.57
10 South_Asian 0.08
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 12.13
2 Greek (Dodecad) 13.1
3 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 13.39
4 Romanians (Behar) 13.61
5 O_Italian (Dodecad) 14.03
6 C_Italian (Dodecad) 16.85
7 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 17.24
8 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 17.93
9 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 18.06
10 Sicilian (Dodecad) 18.23
11 Tuscan (HGDP) 18.44
12 TSI30 (Metspalu) 19.13
13 Turkish (Dodecad) 21.27
14 N_Italian (Dodecad) 21.55
15 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 21.9
16 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 22.79
17 Turks (Behar) 22.87
18 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 23.67
19 North_Italian (HGDP) 24.3
20 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 24.87
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 66.4% Turkish (Dodecad) + 33.6% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 1.61
2 59.7% Turkish (Dodecad) + 40.3% German (Dodecad) @ 1.74
3 66.2% Turkish (Dodecad) + 33.8% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 1.76
4 57.9% Turks (Behar) + 42.1% German (Dodecad) @ 1.94
5 64.8% Turks (Behar) + 35.2% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 2.71
6 64.7% Turks (Behar) + 35.3% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 3.18
7 56% Turkish (Dodecad) + 44% Hungarians (Behar) @ 3.28
8 60.8% Turks (Behar) + 39.2% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 3.42
9 62.6% Turkish (Dodecad) + 37.4% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 3.44
10 54.2% Turks (Behar) + 45.8% Hungarians (Behar) @ 3.51
11 67.5% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 32.5% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 3.54
12 61.3% Turkish (Dodecad) + 38.7% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) @ 3.62
13 59.5% Turks (Behar) + 40.5% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) @ 3.63
14 71% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 29% Iranians (Behar) @ 3.95
15 63% Turks (Behar) + 37% British_Isles (Dodecad) @ 3.99
16 70.1% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 29.9% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 4.05
17 62% Turks (Behar) + 38% CEU30 (1000Genomes) @ 4.15
18 64.8% Turkish (Dodecad) + 35.2% British_Isles (Dodecad) @ 4.19
19 70% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 30% Kurd (Dodecad) @ 4.2
20 69.9% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 30.1% Iranian (Dodecad) @ 4.21
Distance to: result
4.81466510 Turk_Trakya
6.53246508 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
6.78218991 Turk_Deliorman
6.81322978 Turk_Makedonya
7.85716870 Bulgarian_Thrace
9.37199552 Greek_Peloponnese
9.46893341 Greek_Thessaloniki
9.51202397 Moldovan_Gagauz
9.79241543 Greek_Thrace
10.00918079 Greek_Thessaly
10.28441053 Bulgarian_East
10.34288161 Greek_Central
10.58183349 Pomak_Greece
11.09827464 Albanian
11.10632252 Greek_Athens
11.46353785 Greek_Macedonia
11.49524249 Greek_Foca
11.55910464 Greek_Lemnos
11.68473363 Albanian_Kosovo
11.91806612 Macedonian_South
12.04130807 Macedonian_Vardar
12.12775742 Bulgarian_Central
12.14551769 Macedonian_Northeast&Skopje
12.26049346 Italian_Apulia
12.48121789 Pomak_Bulgaria
Distance to: result
2.17860747 37.00% Kumyk + 63.00% Macedonian_Vardar
2.39053895 36.80% Kumyk + 63.20% Macedonian_South
2.51685096 39.00% Kumyk + 61.00% Macedonian_East
2.67860604 64.20% Greek_Macedonia + 35.80% Kumyk
2.69464603 35.60% Abazin + 64.40% Macedonian_Vardar
2.72657381 34.60% Balkar + 65.40% Macedonian_Vardar
2.76786600 36.80% Abazin + 63.20% Macedonian_Polog
2.79093370 38.00% Kumyk + 62.00% Macedonian_Polog
2.83893424 33.80% Karachay + 66.20% Macedonian_Vardar
2.89897690 32.80% Ingush + 67.20% Macedonian_Vardar
2.91227763 30.00% Abazin + 70.00% Moldovan_Gagauz
2.95194307 74.80% Bulgarian_Thrace + 25.20% Nogai
2.99672567 34.20% Balkar + 65.80% Macedonian_South
3.00304203 34.80% Karachay + 65.20% Macedonian_Polog
3.00979043 37.60% Abazin + 62.40% Macedonian_East
3.01545596 34.80% Ingush + 65.20% Macedonian_East
3.04423664 35.20% Abazin + 64.80% Macedonian_South
3.05949172 32.60% Ingush + 67.40% Macedonian_South
3.07440985 39.00% Hemshin + 61.00% Hungarian_Transylvania+Székely
3.09484052 54.00% Kumyk + 46.00% Swiss_Italian
3.09946820 28.20% Karachay + 71.80% Moldovan_Gagauz
3.11630906 35.60% Balkar + 64.40% Macedonian_Polog
3.11838364 51.40% Balkar + 48.60% Swiss_Italian
3.13946894 33.40% Karachay + 66.60% Macedonian_South
3.14950954 33.80% Ingush + 66.20% Macedonian_Polog
1/2 Pleven & 1/2 Kavala. 2nd Highest North Euro, highest Atlantic Med + North Euro.
He is practically a full Bulgarian.
Kaspias
01-16-2022, 10:21 AM
He is practically a full Bulgarian.
Yes, the Pleven side must be northern shifted with either negligible or no Turkic ancestry. Kavala is probably responsible for the slight East Eurasian shift.
Kaspias
01-16-2022, 11:08 AM
From Kardzhali.
Y: N-FT48374 (https://www.yfull.com/tree/N-F22331/)
MT: H4a1a1a (https://yfull.com/mtree/H4a1a1a/)
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 30.63
2 North_European 24.62
3 Atlantic_Med 19.37
4 Gedrosia 8.03
5 Southwest_Asian 6.5
6 East_Asian 4.51
7 Siberian 3.28
8 South_Asian 2.39
9 Southeast_Asian 0.67
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 12.43
2 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 13.45
3 Greek (Dodecad) 13.6
4 Romanians (Behar) 13.73
5 O_Italian (Dodecad) 15.19
6 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 17.16
7 C_Italian (Dodecad) 17.73
8 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 17.96
9 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 18.5
10 Sicilian (Dodecad) 18.79
11 Tuscan (HGDP) 19.23
12 TSI30 (Metspalu) 20.06
13 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 20.55
14 Turkish (Dodecad) 21.44
15 N_Italian (Dodecad) 22.52
16 Turks (Behar) 23.09
17 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 23.11
18 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 24.19
19 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 25.16
20 North_Italian (HGDP) 25.17
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 67.4% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 32.6% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 3.55
2 69.7% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 30.3% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 4.54
3 66.7% Turkish (Dodecad) + 33.3% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 4.74
4 56.2% Turkish (Dodecad) + 43.8% Hungarians (Behar) @ 4.76
5 66.9% Turkish (Dodecad) + 33.1% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 4.88
6 60.3% Turkish (Dodecad) + 39.7% German (Dodecad) @ 4.96
7 58.1% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 41.9% Nogais (Yunusbayev) @ 4.98
8 67.5% Romanians (Behar) + 32.5% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 5.03
9 54.3% Turks (Behar) + 45.7% Hungarians (Behar) @ 5.11
10 58.5% Turks (Behar) + 41.5% German (Dodecad) @ 5.27
11 65.3% Turks (Behar) + 34.7% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 5.59
12 65.1% Turks (Behar) + 34.9% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 5.66
13 64.3% Romanians (Behar) + 35.7% Turks (Behar) @ 5.82
14 72.6% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 27.4% Iranians (Behar) @ 5.87
15 71.4% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 28.6% Iranian (Dodecad) @ 5.92
16 62.6% Romanians (Behar) + 37.4% Turkish (Dodecad) @ 6.12
17 71.7% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 28.3% Kurd (Dodecad) @ 6.15
18 52.5% Nogais (Yunusbayev) + 47.5% N_Italian (Dodecad) @ 6.24
19 63.4% Turkish (Dodecad) + 36.6% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 6.26
20 71.1% Romanians (Behar) + 28.9% Iranian (Dodecad) @ 6.28
Distance to: result
4.49295003 Turk_Trakya
6.59248815 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
6.71985863 Turk_Deliorman
7.51038614 Turk_Makedonya
8.93933443 Bulgarian_Thrace
10.02800578 Greek_Peloponnese
10.13672038 Greek_Thessaloniki
10.39983654 Moldovan_Gagauz
10.75251598 Greek_Thrace
10.87148104 Greek_Thessaly
11.06483168 Bulgarian_East
11.10793410 Pomak_Greece
11.34486668 Greek_Central
11.71454651 Greek_Athens
11.85705275 Albanian
12.24711395 Greek_Foca
12.28980472 Greek_Macedonia
12.40468863 Greek_Lemnos
12.48701726 Albanian_Kosovo
12.66025671 Macedonian_South
12.71762950 Bulgarian_Central
12.76604872 Macedonian_Northeast&Skopje
12.93049496 Macedonian_Vardar
12.94982625 Pomak_Bulgaria
13.07790885 Italian_Apulia
Distance to: result
2.66949408 70.40% Bulgarian_Thrace + 29.60% Nogai
2.77062443 62.40% Albanian_Kosovo + 37.60% Nogai
2.93527651 66.20% Greek_Thrace + 33.80% Nogai
3.01326014 62.20% Macedonian_South + 37.80% Nogai
3.56397530 63.20% Greek_Macedonia + 36.80% Nogai
3.64827251 61.80% Macedonian_Vardar + 38.20% Nogai
3.75977886 64.20% Albanian + 35.80% Nogai
4.00759112 60.60% Macedonian_East + 39.40% Nogai
4.17234931 67.00% Macedonian_Northeast&Skopje + 33.00% Turkmen_Iran
4.21018848 62.40% Macedonian_Northeast&Skopje + 37.60% Nogai
4.25541311 76.60% Bulgarian_Thrace + 23.40% Turkmen_Turkmenistan
4.30117476 80.40% Bulgarian_Thrace + 19.60% Uzbeki
4.34365702 66.20% Bulgarian_East + 33.80% Nogai
4.35369807 75.80% Bulgarian_Thrace + 24.20% Turkmen_Iran
4.41002578 68.00% Moldovan_Gagauz + 32.00% Nogai
4.41949726 61.00% Macedonian_Polog + 39.00% Nogai
4.42904438 68.00% Greek_Macedonia + 32.00% Turkmen_Iran
4.45926165 79.80% Bulgarian_Thrace + 20.20% Turkmen_Afghanistan
4.53936073 79.20% Bulgarian_Thrace + 20.80% Uzbek
4.55223682 65.40% Pomak_Greece + 34.60% Ottoman_MA2196
4.65379931 71.40% Bulgarian_Thrace + 28.60% Ottoman_MA2196
4.68948241 78.00% Bulgarian_Thrace + 22.00% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
4.86113443 71.00% Bulgarian_East + 29.00% Turkmen_Iran
4.86400969 65.80% Bulgarian_East + 34.20% Ottoman_MA2196
4.91188349 36.20% Azerbaijani_Turkey + 63.80% Romanian
Kaspias
01-16-2022, 11:22 AM
From Kardzhali.
Y: https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-CTS3402/
MT: https://www.yfull.com/mtree/H1j/
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 28.26
2 North_European 25.15
3 Atlantic_Med 16
4 Gedrosia 11.01
5 Southwest_Asian 7.93
6 East_Asian 6.31
7 Siberian 5.32
8 Southeast_Asian 0.02
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 15.84
2 Romanians (Behar) 17.04
3 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 17.14
4 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 17.89
5 Greek (Dodecad) 18.36
6 O_Italian (Dodecad) 19.32
7 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 20.96
8 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 21.66
9 C_Italian (Dodecad) 22.07
10 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 22.25
11 Turkish (Dodecad) 22.28
12 Sicilian (Dodecad) 22.63
13 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 23.04
14 Turks (Behar) 23.22
15 Tuscan (HGDP) 23.59
16 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 23.95
17 TSI30 (Metspalu) 24.21
18 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 25.82
19 N_Italian (Dodecad) 26.09
20 Tajiks (Yunusbayev) 27.4
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 58.9% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 41.1% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 5.1
2 61% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 39% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 5.44
3 59.2% Romanians (Behar) + 40.8% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 5.7
4 66.8% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 33.2% Uzbeks (Behar) @ 6.36
5 65.2% Turks (Behar) + 34.8% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 6.38
6 72.8% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 27.2% Hazara (HGDP) @ 6.61
7 65.5% Turks (Behar) + 34.5% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 6.68
8 65.1% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 34.9% Uzbeks (Behar) @ 7.14
9 66.4% Turkish (Dodecad) + 33.6% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 7.17
10 52.3% Nogais (Yunusbayev) + 47.7% O_Italian (Dodecad) @ 7.22
11 55.3% Turks (Behar) + 44.7% Hungarians (Behar) @ 7.34
12 59.3% Turks (Behar) + 40.7% German (Dodecad) @ 7.38
13 71% Turkish (Dodecad) + 29% FIN30 (1000Genomes) @ 7.42
14 67.7% Nogais (Yunusbayev) + 32.3% French (Dodecad) @ 7.45
15 71.4% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 28.6% Hazara (HGDP) @ 7.46
16 63.1% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 36.9% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 7.47
17 67.9% Nogais (Yunusbayev) + 32.1% French (HGDP) @ 7.5
18 60.6% Nogais (Yunusbayev) + 39.4% N_Italian (Dodecad) @ 7.51
19 66.8% Turkish (Dodecad) + 33.2% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 7.58
20 72.4% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 27.6% Uygur (HGDP) @ 7.59
Distance to: result
6.87709241 Turk_Trakya
7.41779617 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
8.77323771 Turk_Deliorman
11.57717150 Turk_Makedonya
12.69451062 Turk_Northwest
13.33128276 Bulgarian_Thrace
13.76928466 Moldovan_Gagauz
13.88429328 Pomak_Greece
14.33714407 Bulgarian_East
14.73214513 Greek_Peloponnese
14.98784508 Greek_Thessaloniki
15.25037704 Greek_Thrace
15.37029278 Greek_Thessaly
15.50948097 Turk_Southwest
15.68425963 Turk_West_Black_Sea
15.76946733 Bulgarian_Central
15.79708834 Pomak_Bulgaria
15.83668526 Greek_Central
16.12743315 Greek_Lemnos
16.31100549 Greek_Macedonia
16.36460815 Greek_Athens
16.54547068 Moldovan_South
16.57256166 Greek_Foca
16.58446864 Macedonian_Northeast&Skopje
16.61953970 Macedonian_South
Distance to: result
3.41405367 60.60% Pomak_Greece + 39.40% Turkmen_Iran
3.81474497 57.40% Pomak_Bulgaria + 42.60% Turkmen_Iran
4.09241074 62.00% Pomak_Greece + 38.00% Turkmen_Turkmenistan
4.17892127 57.40% Bulgarian_Central + 42.60% Turkmen_Iran
4.20618640 60.00% Bulgarian_East + 40.00% Turkmen_Iran
4.34325457 63.20% Pomak_Greece + 36.80% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
4.38006622 56.20% Macedonian_Northeast&Skopje + 43.80% Turkmen_Iran
4.39904702 55.40% Bulgarian_West + 44.60% Turkmen_Iran
4.67076547 56.20% Moldovan_South + 43.80% Turkmen_Iran
4.69544322 54.80% Romanian + 45.20% Turkmen_Iran
4.75219148 61.20% Moldovan_Gagauz + 38.80% Turkmen_Iran
4.81279697 61.40% Bulgarian_East + 38.60% Turkmen_Turkmenistan
5.01368487 58.80% Pomak_Bulgaria + 41.20% Turkmen_Turkmenistan
5.01705392 55.00% Macedonian_East + 45.00% Turkmen_Iran
5.03133661 55.80% Pomak_Greece + 44.20% Ottoman_MA2196
5.05952687 56.80% Greek_Macedonia + 43.20% Turkmen_Iran
5.06215889 51.80% Montenegrin + 48.20% Turkmen_Iran
5.13857950 69.20% Bulgarian_Thrace + 30.80% Uzbeki
5.17366099 55.60% Macedonian_Polog + 44.40% Turkmen_Iran
5.17371767 55.60% Bulgarian_East + 44.40% Nogai
5.20409937 57.60% Macedonian_Northeast&Skopje + 42.40% Turkmen_Turkmenistan
5.23268566 62.80% Bulgarian_East + 37.20% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
5.26659907 51.60% Macedonian_South + 48.40% Nogai
5.26792006 68.20% Bulgarian_Thrace + 31.80% Turkmen_Afghanistan
5.28439233 43.20% Italian_Friuli_VG + 56.80% Nogai
ANXIETY (ADEPT)
02-06-2022, 06:55 PM
Deliorman.
Y: https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-L366/
MT: https://www.yfull.com/mtree/H1*/
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 North_European 31.23
2 Caucasus 26.36
3 Atlantic_Med 22.23
4 Southwest_Asian 6.07
5 Gedrosia 5.55
6 East_Asian 3.24
7 Siberian 3.1
8 South_Asian 1.62
9 Northwest_African 0.59
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 6.83
2 Romanians (Behar) 7.16
3 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 7.86
4 O_Italian (Dodecad) 14.77
5 Greek (Dodecad) 16.37
6 C_Italian (Dodecad) 19.12
7 Hungarians (Behar) 19.41
8 Tuscan (HGDP) 19.51
9 TSI30 (Metspalu) 19.68
10 N_Italian (Dodecad) 19.86
11 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 21.9
12 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 22.32
13 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 22.64
14 Sicilian (Dodecad) 22.69
15 North_Italian (HGDP) 22.82
16 German (Dodecad) 24.55
17 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 26.06
18 French (Dodecad) 27.2
19 French (HGDP) 27.33
20 Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) 27.52
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 87.7% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 12.3% Hazara (HGDP) @ 1.96
2 87.1% Romanians (Behar) + 12.9% Hazara (HGDP) @ 2.01
3 84.5% Romanians (Behar) + 15.5% Uzbeks (Behar) @ 2.14
4 85.3% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 14.7% Uzbeks (Behar) @ 2.26
5 86.2% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 13.8% Hazara (HGDP) @ 2.54
6 83.5% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 16.5% Uzbeks (Behar) @ 2.76
7 90.8% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 9.2% Altai (Rasmussen) @ 2.76
8 87.6% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 12.4% Uygur (HGDP) @ 2.77
9 87% Romanians (Behar) + 13% Uygur (HGDP) @ 2.81
10 91.5% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 8.5% Mongol (Rasmussen) @ 2.91
11 92.4% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 7.6% Buryat (Rasmussen) @ 3.08
12 91.2% Romanians (Behar) + 8.8% Mongol (Rasmussen) @ 3.19
13 92.3% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 7.7% Tuva (Rasmussen) @ 3.21
14 93% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 7% Oroqen (HGDP) @ 3.23
15 90.6% Romanians (Behar) + 9.4% Altai (Rasmussen) @ 3.25
16 86.1% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 13.9% Uygur (HGDP) @ 3.32
17 83% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 17% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 3.39
18 92.2% Romanians (Behar) + 7.8% Buryat (Rasmussen) @ 3.4
19 92.7% Romanians (Behar) + 7.3% Oroqen (HGDP) @ 3.51
20 92% Romanians (Behar) + 8% Tuva (Rasmussen) @ 3.57
Distance to: X
3.91410271 Turk_Deliorman
4.70908696 Pomak_Greece
5.14438529 Moldovan_Gagauz
5.56183423 Bulgarian_East
5.64475863 Pomak_Bulgaria
5.77833021 Bulgarian_Central
6.00573060 Greek_Macedonia
6.19970161 Moldovan_South
6.22363238 Bulgarian_West
6.79308472 Turk_Makedonya
6.91694297 Romanian
6.91715982 Turk_Trakya
7.30456706 Macedonian_Northeast&Skopje
7.71027885 Macedonian_Polog
8.21305059 Macedonian_East
8.43902838 Bulgarian_Thrace
8.51338945 Macedonian_Vardar
8.74538736 Macedonian_South
8.99201868 Montenegrin
9.94423954 Albanian_Kosovo
10.35342455 Greek_Thessaloniki
10.37668541 Greek_Thessaly
10.84366635 Greek_Thrace
11.25707777 Moldovan_Central
11.31844512 Serb
Distance to: X
2.17722116 20.00% Nogai + 80.00% Romanian
2.28993850 82.00% Moldovan_South + 18.00% Nogai
2.41736253 86.80% Bulgarian_Central + 13.20% Turkmen_Afghanistan
2.42865822 82.20% Bulgarian_West + 17.80% Nogai
2.43247510 87.40% Bulgarian_Central + 12.60% Uzbeki
2.45968655 88.40% Bulgarian_Central + 11.60% Nogai_Stavropol
2.50164883 88.80% Bulgarian_Central + 11.20% Karakalpak
2.51341008 81.00% Bulgarian_Central + 19.00% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
2.52374531 88.00% Bulgarian_Central + 12.00% Ottoman_MA2195
2.54519840 79.20% Bulgarian_East + 20.80% Lipka_Tatar
2.60172903 86.40% Bulgarian_West + 13.60% Uzbeki
2.61342224 86.00% Bulgarian_West + 14.00% Turkmen_Afghanistan
2.66351185 75.40% Montenegrin + 24.60% Nogai
2.67482097 91.20% Bulgarian_Central + 8.80% Kyrgyz
2.67543512 90.40% Bulgarian_Central + 9.60% Kazakh
2.72597411 91.00% Bulgarian_Central + 9.00% Kyrgyz_Pamir
2.73029240 88.60% Bulgarian_East + 11.40% Tatar_Siberia
2.73371079 83.80% Bulgarian_Central + 16.20% Nogai
2.73654144 89.80% Bulgarian_Central + 10.20% Uyghur
2.75675903 88.80% Bulgarian_Central + 11.20% Karluk_DA230
2.75889128 86.80% Bulgarian_Central + 13.20% Uzbek
2.76096076 89.80% Bulgarian_Central + 10.20% Karluk_DA222
2.76488165 89.00% Bulgarian_Central + 11.00% Nogai_Astrakhan
2.76717230 82.20% Bulgarian_East + 17.80% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
2.79919169 74.80% Bulgarian_Thrace + 25.20% Tatar_Kazan
I have this clade (R-L366) as a Kosovar-Albanian
Varnali
02-09-2022, 06:15 AM
I'm from Varna (1/2 from Kurtdere 1/2 from Bulair)
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 26.94
2 North_European 25.98
3 Atlantic_Med 18.06
4 Gedrosia 9.61
5 Southwest_Asian 9.36
6 East_Asian 4.22
7 Siberian 2.57
8 Southeast_Asian 1.78
9 Northwest_African 0.94
10 South_Asian 0.36
11 East_African 0.18
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 12.94
2 Romanians (Behar) 14.09
3 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 14.46
4 Greek (Dodecad) 16.2
5 O_Italian (Dodecad) 16.38
6 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 19.43
7 C_Italian (Dodecad) 19.59
8 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 19.94
9 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 20.44
10 Sicilian (Dodecad) 20.74
11 Tuscan (HGDP) 21.13
12 TSI30 (Metspalu) 21.56
13 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 22.26
14 N_Italian (Dodecad) 23.2
15 Turkish (Dodecad) 23.72
16 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 24.46
17 Turks (Behar) 24.95
18 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 25.69
19 Hungarians (Behar) 25.87
20 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 25.91
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 68.6% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 31.4% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 4.82
2 65.8% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 34.2% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 4.95
3 66.5% Romanians (Behar) + 33.5% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 5.03
4 62% Turks (Behar) + 38% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 5.25
5 62.3% Turks (Behar) + 37.7% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 5.53
6 63.3% Turkish (Dodecad) + 36.7% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 5.54
7 55.2% Turks (Behar) + 44.8% German (Dodecad) @ 5.86
8 63.6% Turkish (Dodecad) + 36.4% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 5.99
9 51% Turks (Behar) + 49% Hungarians (Behar) @ 6.12
10 54.6% Hungarians (Behar) + 45.4% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) @ 6.17
11 58.8% Hungarians (Behar) + 41.2% Iranian_Jews (Behar) @ 6.32
12 56.6% Turkish (Dodecad) + 43.4% German (Dodecad) @ 6.51
13 78.9% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 21.1% Hazara (HGDP) @ 6.55
14 69.2% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 30.8% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 6.57
15 58.3% Hungarians (Behar) + 41.7% Iraq_Jews (Behar) @ 6.59
16 72.2% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 27.8% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 6.61
17 52.3% Turkish (Dodecad) + 47.7% Hungarians (Behar) @ 6.65
18 71.7% Romanians (Behar) + 28.3% Iranians (Behar) @ 6.67
19 54.1% Georgia_Jews (Behar) + 45.9% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 6.67
20 54.4% Georgia_Jews (Behar) + 45.6% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 6.68
Distance to: Varnalı
4.31233116 Turk_Trakya
5.69305718 Turk_Deliorman
8.17703491 Turk_Makedonya
8.93349316 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
9.88834162 Bulgarian_Thrace
10.25791402 Moldovan_Gagauz
10.62530000 Pomak_Greece
10.71372484 Bulgarian_East
11.72135231 Greek_Peloponnese
11.77974957 Greek_Thessaloniki
11.97494885 Greek_Thrace
11.99876244 Greek_Thessaly
12.27573623 Bulgarian_Central
12.35693328 Pomak_Bulgaria
12.87362031 Greek_Macedonia
12.99471816 Macedonian_South
13.09351748 Moldovan_South
13.11516679 Macedonian_Northeast&Skopje
13.30805771 Greek_Central
13.36539188 Macedonian_Vardar
13.41527488 Albanian_Kosovo
13.50561365 Romanian_Muntenia
13.51950073 Macedonian_Polog
13.57798954 Bulgarian_West
13.77784090 Albanian
OrhanU
02-10-2022, 11:02 AM
Our results are quite similar, apart from your east eurasian is higher while my caucasus appears for that.
My maternal side: Bulgaria (Shumen, Plovdiv)
My paternal side: Serbia (Prijepolje), Turkey (Mardin, possibly dominantly Arab)
My results below:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 30.85
2 North_European 27.62
3 Atlantic_Med 18.07
4 Gedrosia 9.29
5 Southwest_Asian 9.69
6 East_Asian 0.00
7 Siberian 0.81
8 Southeast_Asian 3.03
9 Northwest_African 0.26
10 Sub_Saharan 0.31
11 East_African 0.08
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 26.94
2 North_European 25.98
3 Atlantic_Med 18.06
4 Gedrosia 9.61
5 Southwest_Asian 9.36
6 East_Asian 4.22
7 Siberian 2.57
8 Southeast_Asian 1.78
9 Northwest_African 0.94
10 South_Asian 0.36
11 East_African 0.18
I'm not a pure Balkan Turk, just have ancestors from there and got curious when I matched closely with them, so either way here's my coordinates.
k13: 14.33, 13.78, 15.42, 22.69, 21.91, 0.72, 3.94, 2.58, 4.5, 0, 0.14, 0, 0
k12b: 12.31, 2.81, 0, 0, 20.44, 20.96, 1.76, 0, 4.67, 4.71, 32.35, 0
Just wanted to add another post, I noticed a lot of Balkan Turks have more North_European than North_Atlantic, while I have a more even distribution, is this why I match more with mainland Greeks instead of Bulgarians for example? I just find it kinda odd. I have ancestors who come from Thessaloniki though, but also from Kardzhali. The only Grandparent I have that was pure Anatolian Turk (as far as I know) was my grandmother, she came from Gölyazi which was a extremely closed village where only Yörüks and Greeks lived together for centuries (or so they say), and the village never experienced significant migration or emigration until post WW1 where the Greeks left in the population exchange, her parents then moved to Bursa and she grew up there. My other Grandmother was atleast half circassian and grew up in Istanbul from what my parents tell me, no Idea what her other half was. My other two grandparents had Balkan roots (Thessaloniki and Kardzhali), they lived in Tekirdag and Istanbul after their parents moved there.
khanx34
11-28-2022, 08:20 PM
they have usually under %10 east eurasian genes but an sample have %15 east eurasian and %29 north europe + %17 north atlantic
probably his ancestors came to to deliorman with over %40 east eurasian genes.
khanx34
11-28-2022, 08:23 PM
they have usually under %10 east eurasian genes but an sample have %15 east eurasian and %29 north europe + %17 north atlantic
probably his ancestors came to to deliorman with over %40 east eurasian genes.
Thracian
11-29-2022, 01:13 PM
they have usually under %10 east eurasian genes but an sample have %15 east eurasian and %29 north europe + %17 north atlantic
probably his ancestors came to to deliorman with over %40 east eurasian genes.
So what is your point?
khanx34
11-29-2022, 01:46 PM
So what is your point?
it is obvious that these people are usually who did not much mixed in Anatolia like us, but mixed in the Balkans.
Even among Azerbaijanis, we rarely see 10% of eastern Eurasia and they very close to turkistan geography. Good results for most of balkan turks.
and i think these are examples of peasants and nomads.
khanx34
11-29-2022, 01:50 PM
So what is your point?
i think you are ottomans grandson xD
balkanik
01-18-2023, 04:55 AM
Recently, i got my parents tested and the results are interesting, i show up as the mean of two.
Mother
1 Caucasus 31.09
2 North_European 26.93
3 Atlantic_Med 19.07
4 Gedrosia 6.23
5 Southwest_Asian 5.48
6 East_Asian 4.5
7 Siberian 3.84
8 South_Asian 2.27
9 East_African 0.32
10 Southeast_Asian 0.29
Father
1 North_European 28.98
2 Caucasus 25.87
3 Atlantic_Med 24.58
4 Southwest_Asian 7.35
5 Gedrosia 6.85
6 East_Asian 2.32
7 Northwest_African 2.22
8 South_Asian 1.37
9 Siberian 0.46
Me
1 Caucasus 30.03
2 North_European 27.78
3 Atlantic_Med 20.89
4 Gedrosia 7.18
5 Southwest_Asian 4.82
6 East_Asian 4.69
7 Siberian 2.1
8 Northwest_African 1.49
9 South_Asian 1.01
Kaspias
01-18-2023, 10:54 AM
Recently, i got my parents tested and the results are interesting, i show up as the mean of two.
Mother
1 Caucasus 31.09
2 North_European 26.93
3 Atlantic_Med 19.07
4 Gedrosia 6.23
5 Southwest_Asian 5.48
6 East_Asian 4.5
7 Siberian 3.84
8 South_Asian 2.27
9 East_African 0.32
10 Southeast_Asian 0.29
Father
1 North_European 28.98
2 Caucasus 25.87
3 Atlantic_Med 24.58
4 Southwest_Asian 7.35
5 Gedrosia 6.85
6 East_Asian 2.32
7 Northwest_African 2.22
8 South_Asian 1.37
9 Siberian 0.46
Me
1 Caucasus 30.03
2 North_European 27.78
3 Atlantic_Med 20.89
4 Gedrosia 7.18
5 Southwest_Asian 4.82
6 East_Asian 4.69
7 Siberian 2.1
8 Northwest_African 1.49
9 South_Asian 1.01
Where are your parents from specifically?
balkanik
01-18-2023, 11:19 AM
Where are your parents from specifically?
Mom ----> 1/4 Tatar and Circassian + 1/4 Gevgelija + 2/4 Burgas
Father --> 1/8 Kosovo + 2/8 Tarnovo + 2/8 Kazanlak + 3/8 Unknown(Most probably from Bulgaria as well)
But if i need to approximate myself i think i am like 1/8 Tatar + 7/8 Deliorman Turk
Kaspias
01-22-2023, 12:42 PM
Mom ----> 1/4 Tatar and Circassian + 1/4 Gevgelija + 2/4 Burgas
Father --> 1/8 Kosovo + 2/8 Tarnovo + 2/8 Kazanlak + 3/8 Unknown(Most probably from Bulgaria as well)
But if i need to approximate myself i think i am like 1/8 Tatar + 7/8 Deliorman Turk
@Deniz has practically same background as you:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 North_European 29.16
2 Caucasus 27.71
3 Atlantic_Med 20.53
4 Gedrosia 8.22
5 Southwest_Asian 7.6
6 Siberian 5.35
7 Northwest_African 1.17
8 South_Asian 0.25
Zanko
04-23-2023, 08:32 PM
Kaspias do you have a spreadsheet of the individual dodecad k12b results of Turks of East Thrace and it would also be nice if you could include which of the Provinces of Turkey they are from.
-Zanko
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