Is Mahometanism aka Islam, the most obviously false religion ever?

[Rethel]

Why? Because:

- if you take unto account what mahometans teach about Islam, Koran and Mahomet, it undoubtedly proves, that Islam is false.
- if you take unto account what scientists now know about Islam, Koran and Mahomet, it undoubtedly proves, that Islam is false.
- if you take unto account what the Bible teaches about true "abrahamic" biblical faith, it undoubtedly proves, that Islam is false.

So, whatever way you go, you will find, that mahometanism is false.

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[Crn Volk]

Yes

[Östsvensk]

The Muslims say the opposite. They claim that the Holy Bible is corrupted. The only exception being when it predicts the prophecy of the coming of prophet Muhammad of course.

[Crn Volk]

The Muslims say the opposite. They claim that the Holy Bible is corrupted. The only exception being when it predicts the prophecy of the coming of prophet Muhammad of course.

Who cares what they say

[Deusex99]

Jizzslam is talmudism for niggers. It has also the gnostic Jesus who is the false prophet of Revelation.

[Rethel]

The Muslims say the opposite.

The thing is, that things which they teach are proving, that Islam is false.

For example, they teach, that Koran is unchangeble, eternal, perfect and guarded perfectly
by their god, that even one letter cannot be changed. But at the same time, they teach, that:

- Koran wasn't written down by Mahomet (so whoever else did write it, didn't write exactly what mahomet was saying)
- one whole long chapter was ate by a goat
- at one battle 70 people who knew some suras, were killed, so some parts of koran are lost
- so koran was finally written down after that by Abubakr, then left for 20 years under the bed of Hafsa, wife of Mahomet
- and by this ocasion, every other existed versions were burned
- tweny years later, Osman did write Koran second time, and other recitations were burned
- but some surrvived and have even different number of chapters
- then the seven different readings were allowed
- then every such reading had added some transmittors and recitations (kirats) which gives 30 officials Korans
- then in 1924 at University of Cairo, they chose Koran in Hafs version, and then 29 others were sunk in the Nile
- Hafs lived almost 200 years after Mahomet in Iraq and was known as a lier and untrustworthy person who made stuff up
- regardless of that, yet in 1985 Saudis decided, that Hafs version will be offical around the world.
- but still you can buy 29 other Korans, which in different readings and pronunciations can give hundrets of different korans.

This is the offical muslim teaching. Every single point which I wrote, proves, that islam is false => Islam offcialy claims, that is false.
And this is only one thing. Basically, if you was born before 1985, then you are older, than one universal unchageable koran. :laugh:


They claim that the Holy Bible is corrupted.

They can claim, but Mahomet - according to their own teachings - claimed differently. He not only was claiming, that everything what he is teaching is the same what is written in the Bible existing at his time, but also was encouriging people to check it! So, anyway, they themsleves prove, that islam is false. And now we have complite Bibles not only from the VIth century but also from hundrets of years earlier.

So, as you see, the own teachings of mahometanism claim, that Islam is false. In only two subjects. And I didn't even touch life of Mahomet, science or the Bible yet.

[placebo]

Muslims claim that the Bible is corrupt. Christians claim that the Quran is corrupt. The interesting thing is that they both tell similar things lol. :DDD

[Rethel]

The interesting thing is that they both tell similar things lol. :DDD

Christian: Jesus is the Son of God.
Mahometan: Jesus is not Son of God at all.

Christian: Jesus died on the cross.
Mahometan: Jesus didn't die at all.

Christian: Jesus was from the tribe of Judah, from the house of David.
Mahometan: Jesus was from nowhere, and Mary was from the tribe of Levi.

Christian: Jesus was officialy known as Jesus son of Joseph.
Mahomatan: Jesus was known officialy as Jesus son of Mary.

Christian: Jesus payed for your sins and gives eternal life.
Mahometan: Jesus didn't pay for anybody's sins and does not give eternal life.

Similar, really? :picard1:

For more look here: https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?334457-Most-here-are-losers-and-should-treat-me-with-respect/page5&p=6937198#post6937198
And here: https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?334457-Most-here-are-losers-and-should-treat-me-with-respect&p=6939480&viewfull=1#post6939480

[Ryujin]

Christian: Jesus is Son of God.
Mahometan: Jesus is not Son of God.

Christain: Jesus died on the cross.
Mahometan: Jesus didn't die.

Christain: Jesus was from the tribe of Judah, from the house of David.
Mahometan: Jesus was from nowhere, and Mary was from the tribe of Levi.

Christian: Jesus was officialy known as Jesus son of Joseph.
Mahomatan: Jesus was known officialy as Jesus son of Mary.

Christian: Jesus payed for your sins and gives eternal life.
Mahometan: Jesus didn;t pay for anybody sins and does not give eternal life.

Similar, really? :picard1:

For more look here: https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?334457-Most-here-are-losers-and-should-treat-me-with-respect/page5&p=6937198#post6937198
And here: https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?334457-Most-here-are-losers-and-should-treat-me-with-respect&p=6939480&viewfull=1#post6939480

Islam is thought to be influenced by ancient Eastern Christian people called Ebionites, who claimed that Jesus was merely a human and a prophet and which is why they were considered heretics by the orthodox Christian church. Their teachings were quite similar to the founding principles of Islam.

There is a man named Waraqah, he is also mentioned in Islamic history as a 'Christian monk who prophesied Mohammad'. He was apparently an Ebionite priest living in Mecca, and had a strong influence on the Islamic prophet.

Ebionites mean 'the poor ones', they gave special emphasis about people who are poor and orphaned. Mohammad was an orphan himself, and he might have attracted interest from the Ebionite priest. One of the biggest principles in Islam is to share a portion of your wealth with the poor ones and help the orphaned. This is very similar to the way of life of Ebionites in the historical context.

[Jacques de Imbelloni]

Was Alexander the Great a Muslim?

https://www.quora.com/Was-Alexander-the-Great-a-Muslim

Zafar Khan (https://www.quora.com/profile/Zafar-Khan-2)



, an avid history buff
Updated September 22, 2018 (https://www.quora.com/Was-Alexander-the-Great-a-Muslim/answer/Zafar-Khan-2) · Author has 151 answers and 461.6K answer views






An answer from a different perspective. According to Islam, the first man in the world, Adam (pbuh) was a Muslim as he believed in one God. So was Noah, Moses, Jesus, John the Baptist, etc. Many answers here have clearly mentioned that Alexander the Great was a Greek and he believed in Greek gods.
Now, we cannot be certain about the history of that time and its not very relevant for this question. Muslim means one who submits his will to the one true God (also called Allah and he has many other beautiful names). Did Alexander the Great submit his will to one true God or not, maybe we do not know.


Anonymous
Answered April 11, 2015 (https://www.quora.com/Was-Alexander-the-Great-a-Muslim/answers/11297519)






I see lot of people pointing that Islam was Revealed in 570 CE and striking off the Possibility . Since I'm a Muslim, I can say one thing with confidence that Islam is not something which was invented or something. Islam Simply means submitting will to the one and only God and this was something which you can find way back from Prophet Adam (Peace be upon him) to Prophet Muhammed (peace be upon Him). Even Vedas (Sacred scripture of Hindus) talks about submitting will to one god.
Moses (peace be upon Him),Jesus(peace be upon Him), Noah(peace be upon Him), everyone submitted their will to god and believed in one God(Allah in Arabic, Paramaatma in Sanskrit, Khuda in Urdu.. ). So I hope this clears the misinterpretation of Islam here. All we humans on earth believe in one God but fight each other based on how we call to the supreme being.


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Answered April 10, 2015 (https://www.quora.com/Was-Alexander-the-Great-a-Muslim/answer/Umair-Mirxa) · Author has 58 answers and 179.5K answer views






Originally Answered: Was Alexander the Great a Muslim?
The answer would really depend on your definition of Muslim.
If you mean Muslim as in a follower of Islam since the Prophet Muhammad [Peace be upon Him], then no - because Alexander the Great lived, conquered, and died nearly a thousand years before the Prophet was even born.
However, in Islamic belief, the followers of Adam, Noah, Abraham, Moses, Jesus, and various other prophets are considered Muslims as well, if they fall within a certain criteria. Now, Alexander predates both Jesus and Muhammad [Peace be upon Him], so we may consider him a follower in the teachings of Abraham or Moses.



The Muslim philosopher Ibn Arabi (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibn_Arabi)

said:
A Muslim is a person who has dedicated his worship exclusively to God...Islam means making one's religion and faith God's alone.

Alexander the Great in the Quran - Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_the_Great_in_the_Quran)

Though the Quran speaks about Alexander and refers to him as 'Dhul-Qarnayn' it doesn’t exactly state his faith.
Alexander publicly remained pretty tolerant of different faiths, and I assume took part of the Hellenic festivals, but they may have been merely cultural and it is not known what he privately believed.
If he personally believed that there was one God or Eternal Creator, he would have been a Muslim.


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Answered May 2, 2015 (https://www.quora.com/Was-Alexander-the-Great-a-Muslim/answer/Abdullah-Noman-3) · Author has 128 answers and 220.1K answer views






He is mentioned in our Quran as the "two horned one" and it is also mentioed that he once encountered people who complained to him about 2 tribes that contiously attacked theyre village to rob them and cause havoc. Alexander could mould iron into any shape he desires as mentioned in the quran so he used it to build a big iron dam to block the path of these invading tribes since they lived between 2 mountains.

[Rethel]

Alexander the Great was a Muslim

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Was Mahomet (let he burn in hell) so stupid or mahometans are?

Ceterum censeo Meccam delendam esse.

[Ascended]

Alexander the Great was probably just a mythical character anyway. Most of the characters from antiquity was actually RENNAISANCE creations and Allah knows best.

Nothing to do with Zul Qarnen (RA) who was from prehistory times. The Qur'an is real, much of secular history is not.

[Rethel]

Alexander the Great was probably just a mythical character anyway. Most of the characters from antiquity was actually RENNAISANCE creations

I see, mahometanism is a portal to opposite world...

p.s. are you a follower of Nosowski and Fomienko?

[Ascended]

I see, mahometanism is a portal to opposite world...

p.s. are you a follower of Nossowski and Fomienko?

Fomienko opened my mind, but he also has some limitations. You know, Muslims never heard this name "Iskander" before the colonialists? You wont find even Persian literature from pre 17th century on this character. And now everyone between the Euphrates and Oxus claims to descend from him, lol...or even the Ganghes

[Jacques de Imbelloni]

Alexander the Great was probably just a mythical character anyway. Most of the characters from antiquity was actually RENNAISANCE creations and Allah knows best.

Nothing to do with Zul Qarnen (RA) who was from prehistory times. The Qur'an is real, much of secular history is not.
Didn't know mythical characters can burn down cities.

https://img3.viajar.elperiodico.com/7a/ba/fe/ruinas-de-persepolis-600.jpg

How do you explain the greek presence in central asia durin the 2 and 1 c bc?

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b7/70/7d/b7707d1060ff734125a86a1952095395.jpg
https://c8.alamy.com/comp/A7XH9W/afghanistan-ai-khanum-khojo-boudi-tea-house-where-looted-artifacts-A7XH9W.jpg
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[Radimir]

Didn't know mythical characters can burn down cities.

https://img3.viajar.elperiodico.com/7a/ba/fe/ruinas-de-persepolis-600.jpg

How do you xplain the greek presence in central asia durin the 2 and 1 c bc?

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b7/70/7d/b7707d1060ff734125a86a1952095395.jpg
https://c8.alamy.com/comp/A7XH9W/afghanistan-ai-khanum-khojo-boudi-tea-house-where-looted-artifacts-A7XH9W.jpg
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Easy. Are there any Macedonian or Greek descended people there? No.

[Jacques de Imbelloni]

The Qur'an is real, much of secular history is not.
As real as the Book of Mormon or the Oera Linda.

[Teutone]

Who is that Mahomet?

If Islam is false or not, its the greatest bastion against modernism and its degenerated results.

[Radimir]

Who is that Mahomet?

If Islam is false or not, its the greatest bastion against modernism and its degenerated results.

Mahomet is an old French spelling of Muhammad, it's also serves as the root for the word Baphomet which is a corruption of Mahomet.

[Rethel]

Who is that Mahomet?

It is the most known false prophet ever, Mahomet ibn Abdullah ibn Abdulmuttalib, claimed founder of mahometanism.
(Quite recently being misspronounced under leftist and islamic agenda in english as (tfu) Muhammad).



Mahomet is an old French spelling of Muhammad, it's also serves as the root for the word Baphomet which is a corruption of Mahomet.

Also a proper english version of this name until recently. I checked it in Britannica.
Latin Mahometus and from this came to all european languages as such.

Ceterum censeo Meccam delendam esse.

[Teutone]

If the right or christians only would put that effort against our real enemies.

Islam is not connected with loosing influence of christianity, if you attack islam you attack the scarecrow.

[Rethel]

If the right or christians only would put that effort against our real enemies.

Which are?


Ceterum censeo Meccam delendam esse.

[Teutone]

Which are?


Ceterum censeo Meccam delendam esse.

Marxism, consumerism, atheism, freemasonry, media etc.

[Rethel]

1. Marxism, 2. consumerism, 3. atheism, 4. freemasonry, 5. media etc.

1. Islam is a communism itself and is of course used by modern maxists against us.
2. Which propagates, that islamic stuff is cool.
3. Making us sleepy, when allows to Islam to rise against us.
4. 32nd degree makes a guy a muslim. Did you now it? 21st degree makes someone a noahide, i.e. almost equal to a mahometan, as mahometans are good noahides according to talmudists. Btw, masonry is pushing islam since ever, by going with it hand to hand, always, since at least XVIIth century, if not earlier. And btw2, sufism is high masonry of islamic world.
5. Which is controlled by masons, who promote by it Islam and other heresies.

Ceterum autem censeo Meccam esse delendam.

[Östsvensk]

If the right or christians only would put that effort against our real enemies.

Islam is not connected with loosing influence of christianity, if you attack islam you attack the scarecrow.

As far as I know, a couple of countries on the globe that are now Muslim were once Christian. So I think that Islam has some connection to losing influence of Christianity.

[Teutone]

As far as I know, a couple of countries on the globe that are now Muslim were once Christian. So I think that Islam has some connection to losing influence of Christianity.

Im not aware muslims came into Europe as Army this time? They are allowed to come and live here based on the decision of liberals. In countries with 0% muslims there is still a decline of morals and christianity.

You are allergic to cats and you live in a house with someone daily inviting 10cats, instead of blame the one letting the cats in, you hate on the cats.

Anti-islamic peasant focusing on the paws, leaving the actual enemies untouched.

[Teutone]

1. Islam is a communism itself and is of course used by modern maxists against us.
2. Which propagates, that islamic stuff is cool.
3. Making us sleepy, when allows to Islam to rise against us.
4. 32nd degree makes a guy a muslim. Did you now it? 21st degree makes someone a noahide, i.e. almost equal to a mahometan, as mahometans are good noahides according to talmudists. Btw, masonry is pushing islam since ever, by going with it hand to hand, always, since at least XVIIth century, if not earlier. And btw2, sufism is high masonry of islamic world.
5. Which is controlled by masons, who promote by it Islam and other heresies.

Ceterum autem censeo Meccam esse delendam.

Then go against marxists if they are the force behind.

[Östsvensk]

Im not aware muslims came into Europe as Army this time? They are allowed to come and live here based on the decision of liberals. In countries with 0% muslims there is still a decline of morals and christianity.

You are allergic to cats and you live in a house with someone daily inviting 10cats, instead of blame the one letting the cats in, you hate on the cats.

Anti-islamic peasant focusing on the paws, leaving the actual enemies untouched.

Muslims are not the driving force, perhaps, but the result will nevertheless be that Christianity is replaced by Islam. Muslims do not exactly tend to make best friends with Christians. Go watch some debates on YouTube. They are usually very ugly.

[Smeagol]

Islam>>>>>secularism.

[Östsvensk]

Islam>>>>>secularism.

It's going that way for sure. I don't think you have to worry about that.

[Smeagol]

It's going that way for sure. I don't think you have to worry about that.

Good. If they conquer the world they deserve it. I'd rather live under Sharia Law then what the west has become.

I'll never be a muslim though.

[Teutone]

Islam>>>>>secularism.

Brother.

[Östsvensk]

Good. If they conquer the world they deserve it. I'd rather live under Sharia Law then what the west has become.

I'll never be a muslim though.

Islam does not really seem to be that much alike traditional Christianity though that f.e. puts a strong emphasis on marriage as a sacred bond. Divorces are actually pretty common in Islamic cultures, like in the secular West today.


Slavery and concubinage exist everywhere. Polygamy and divorce are common...

https://answering-islam.org/Books/Zwemer/God/chap8.htm

[Teutone]

Islam does not really seem to be that much alike traditional Christianity though that f.e. puts a strong emphasis on marriage as a sacred bond. Divorces are actually pretty common in Islamic cultures, like in the secular West today.


Slavery and concubinage exist everywhere. Polygamy and divorce are common...

https://answering-islam.org/Books/Zwemer/God/chap8.htm

Divorce and polygamy is something I sure prefer over trans kids, feminism, ethnic suicide and other degeneration of our time, too many to count.

[Östsvensk]

Divorce and polygamy is something I sure prefer over trans kids, feminism, ethnic suicide and other degeneration of our time, too many to count.

You prefer Islam over ethnic suicide? Uhm, Western Europe is not becoming Islamic due to conversions, rofl.

[Ascended]

I've always maintained there will come a time European Muslims will be bombing brown and OWD Muslims and even Wog Christians

[Teutone]

You prefer Islam over ethnic suicide? Uhm, Western Europe is not becoming Islamic due to conversions, rofl.

Dude how can you not understand this.
The ethnic suicide and letting islamisation happening is DUE TO SECULARISM.

we have all the capacity to put an end to it all, but we wont due to our liberal secular systems.

So again, you blame Islam for something our own people are responsible for.

[Teutone]

Reconquista and a clerical fascist rule? Id sign up for that directly.

But its not going to happen.

[Östsvensk]

Dude how can you not understand this.
The ethnic suicide and letting islamisation is DUE TO SECULARISM.

we have all the capacity to put an end to it all, but we wont due to our liberal secular systems.

So again, you blame Islam for something our own people are responsible for.

I haven't said that this is incorrect. I already said to Smeagol that Islamization is winning.

[Teutone]

I haven't said that this is incorrect. I already said to Smeagol that Islamization is winning.

I look through you Swede, you hold up the liberal values in high esteem, while we see them as greatesr threat to our people ever, most destructive force ever influencing Europe.

[Faklon]

Was Alexander the Great

It's not Alexander himself but the philosophy behind Alexander aka Aristotelian thought and philosophy that it's much closer to monotheistic religions than pagan ones.

[Östsvensk]

I look through you Swede, you hold up the liberal values in high esteem, while we see them as greatesr threat to our people ever, most destructive force ever influencing Europe.

Swedes are Forrest Germans, basically. But yes, never before in history did a people volunteer to disappear from the face of the earth.

[Teutone]

Swedes are Forrest Germans, basically. But yes, never before in history did a people volunteer to disappear from the face of the earth.

Whats the cause for it? Say it.

[Jacques de Imbelloni]

It's not Alexander himself but the philosophy behind Alexander aka Aristotelian thought and philosophy that it's much closer to monotheistic religions than pagan ones.
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?333141-Who-is-Dhul-qarnayn-in-Islam

[Östsvensk]

Whats the cause for it? Say it.

I would say individualism, first and foremost. Plus an attitude of somehow being the number one humanitarians in the world.

[Teutone]

I would say individualism, first and foremost.

We getting somewhere with you.

[Faklon]

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?333141-Who-is-Dhul-qarnayn-in-Islam

He can be whoever, the question is why he is important.

Muslim scholars like Avicenna integrated Aristotelian thought who spoke of the one prime mover.


Aristotle describes the unmoved mover as being perfectly beautiful, indivisible, and contemplating only the perfect contemplation: self-contemplation. . He equates this concept also with the active intellect.

Alexander, his student conquering almost all the known world approaches this ideal as all later monotheistic religions more or less do.

[Jacques de Imbelloni]

He can be whoever, the question is why he is important.

Muslim scholars like Avicenna integrated Aristotelian thought who spoke of the one prime mover.



Alexander, his student conquering almost all the known world approaches this ideal as all later monotheistic religions more or less do.

Latter Muslim scholars rejected Aristotelian thought and any other form of rational or critical thinking comig from the west, allah knows best. If the
Al Corán says that the sky is green, all muslim must adhere to this.