Did you learn anything unexpected by doing a dna test?

[Scandal]

I did, I learned I am like 1-2% mena and/or east african, which is an admixture not present in avarage countrymen of mine.
I score it consistently on different calculators. Could be jewish ancestry, but idk.

[RyoHazuki]

That I wasn't part ukrainian.

[Figaro]

Confirmed that I have something to the order of 3-4% or so AJ input. My mother’s side had a “family rumor” of “someone being Jewish” prior to that, but was always uncertain.

[gixajo]

That there are people who are bothered by the fact the Spanish are not 1/4 Moor, 1/4 Arab 1/4 Jewish and 1/4 gypsy.:icon_confused:

Ey, we are actually only 50% Moor+Arab+Jew+Gypsy in average.:rolleyes:

[Defcon2]

That I have a Sub-Saharan paternal haplo.

[oh-nahhh]

I learned that I'm more normal than I thought.

[gixajo]

I learned that I'm more normal than I thought.

It must be very hard to digest something like that, I don't know how you can continue living after knowing something like that.

I am so sorry for you...

[oh-nahhh]

It must be very hard to digest something like that, I don't know how you can continue living after knowing something like that.

Yeah, absolutely.

[Ryujin]

I got %2 Irish component :drink3:

[Kaspias]

I was thinking my father is half Pomak. Hence I was expecting a small amount of East Eurasian admixture, and a Balkan haplogroup.

It turned out my father is full Turk. Moreover, 4th most Turkic individual among 151 Balkan Turk samples I have. Also has a Hunnic haplogroup.

[Jana]

Yes, I learned I am pretty average Croat in terms of clustering, with nothing special western Euro input and less of it than quite a few unmixed Croats.
Also interesting is that I have inflated Kavkaz/CHG/West Asian admixture. Like you, I score it consistently everywhere.

More: my parents are very similar genetically. Would never, ever guess that. Especially my father being more north shifted than my mother (ofcourse, I expected differently)

[Jana]

About Stears, amount of his "wog/southern" admixture suprised me. I didn't expect he will be southern shifted, as well as having for Hungarian large exotic input too.

[Teutonski]

Im a quarter slavic

[El_Abominacion]

With what I knew before I tested? I was more European and less South Asian + MENA than expected. I was also skeptical about the African ancestry because I don't look the part, so seeing it on the test confirmed it was there

[Scandal]

I got %2 Irish component :drink3:

which test?

[Scandal]

Confirmed that I have something to the order of 3-4% or so AJ input. My mother’s side had a “family rumor” of “someone being Jewish” prior to that, but was always uncertain.

which test confirmed that? 23andme?

[Norb]

that I'm R1a

[J. Ketch]

Pretty much nothing about myself, but I don't regret it. I've learned a lot regardless.

[IrisSelene]

Not rlly learnt, more like, have gotten more questions than answers lol and I very badly want to test my mother and someone from my dad's side too.

Ah, also bc I compared my gedmatch to other Romanians, Hungarians and even Bulgarians and I score more Caucasus than most of them. They from what I've seen tend to score more on the uralid, siberian or central Asian side. While I barely have any of that and instead have more inflated west asian/Caucasus.

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[Mortimer]

I learned that Im 1/32-1/64 or less "but it is still visibly there in the DNA" - jewish. I didnt know that nor expected it.

[ShieldWolf]

My test didn't reveal any unexpected exotic ancestry, but I did inherit less German autosomal DNA from my ancestors than expected and a northwest German line on my maternal side turned out to be more Scandinavian with deep clade matches in Norway, the British Isles, Switzerland, and northern Italy.

[Scandal]

I learned that Im 1/32-1/64 or less "but it is still visibly there in the DNA" - jewish. I didnt know that nor expected it.

How can such low amount be detectable? How much jewish did 23andme give you?

[Mortimer]

How can such low amount be detectable? How much jewish did 23andme give you?

23andme gave me 1.4% ancestry gave me 4% ftdna gave me 4%

[gixajo]

Oh well, seriously speaking, I didn´t expect to be R1a being Spanish, and even less Z282.

[gixajo]

23andme gave me 1.4% ancestry gave me 4% ftdna gave me 4%

Welcome again Mortimer.

[MsSPF]

Apart from the fact that I have a funny maternal haplogroup for my background, nothing really.
But I learned interesting facts about DNA in general and found the whole experience enriching.

[Abriekman]

I did not know I have Sephardic Jewish great great grandparent to be honest. Confirmed it by matches and 4 tests I done

[Ryujin]

which test?

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?333391-Ryujin-s-myOrigins-3-0-Results

[gixajo]

Apart from the fact that I have a funny maternal haplogroup for my background, nothing really.
But I learned interesting facts about DNA in general and found the whole experience enriching.

Why is it funny? Where suposedly comes it from?

Did you post already your test results? I don't remember ever seeing them...

[gixajo]

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?333391-Ryujin-s-myOrigins-3-0-Results

It strikes me more that you get 7% Basque than less than 3% Jewish from the Middle East:confused:

[Ryujin]

It strikes me more that you get 7% Basque than less than 3% Jewish from the Middle East:confused:

I just have a higher west med. Nothing wrong with less Jewish since I'm not from the Middle East

[WeirdLookingFellow]

I need to test at least my mom to figure out if it's not just MyHeritage's data or if I actually am Western-shifted for a Romanian - I seem to resemble a more Western Transylvanian than a Slavic-shifted Moldavian.

[MsSPF]

Why is it funny? Where suposedly comes it from?

Did you post already your test results? I don't remember ever seeing them...

My haplogroup, especially its subclade, peaks in Baltic region and that's very rare for Maghreb region. Apparently associated with Corded Ware culture.

https://cache.eupedia.com/images/content/mtDNA-W-map.png


I posted my results few years ago but they evolved drastically as 23andme improved their calculation methods. I used to have more European for example (from 15% to 30%) but now it seems more reliable. They guessed my region in Algeria perfectly.
I'm basically 100% Berber.

https://zupimages.net/up/20/42/ytd6.png

[Scandal]

23andme gave me 1.4% ancestry gave me 4% ftdna gave me 4%

If your score it on 23andme, then you most likely have it.

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?333391-Ryujin-s-myOrigins-3-0-Results

I'm not sure if you're really part Irish. Myorigins? It also gave you 6% Hungarian, but you don't have such ancestry. 23andme's breakdown is most reliable out there, even that one is not necessarily 100% accurate. I scored 5% Irish on myheritage, I 've seen other hungarians score it too but it's obviously false result and I know I'm not part Irish.

[Hamilcar]

My haplogroup, especially its subclade, peaks in Baltic region and that's very rare for Maghreb region. Apparently associated with Corded Ware culture.

https://cache.eupedia.com/images/content/mtDNA-W-map.png


I posted my results few years ago but they evolved drastically as 23andme improved their calculation methods. I used to have more European for example (from 15% to 30%) but now it seems more reliable. They guessed my region in Algeria perfectly.
I'm basically 100% Berber.

https://zupimages.net/up/20/42/ytd6.png

Now I understand why you look so familiar you're basically from a region that has always been connected to Morocco before because in comparison many eastern algerians look weird to me. Also do you have your g25 results ? I don't think 23andme goes far back in time that's why north africans all end up being almost 100% NA on it (it's more made for "recent" mixed people)

[Kaspias]

If your score it on 23andme, then you most likely have it.


I'm not sure if you're really part Irish. Myorigins? It also gave you 6% Hungarian, but you don't have such ancestry. 23andme's breakdown is most reliable out there, even that one is not necessarily 100% accurate. I scored 5% Irish on myheritage, I 've seen other hungarians score it too but it's obviously false result and I know I'm not part Irish.

23andme has a no different algorithm than other companies. There is nothing that makes it special in terms of admixture breakdowns. All of the company percentage quotes are reliable as much as an urban myth.

[Kyp]

Everything as expected broadly.

Before the test I was a bit scared that my father may be just turkified since the origin of the tribe is not documented/known and there are conflicting theories but it turned out he is more Turkic than the Azerbaijani average, despite having recent non-Azerbaijani ancestors.

For my mother I was mostly surprised about the relatively high Eastern-European DNA.

[TheMaestro]

about my British/Welsh admixture

[Scandal]

about my British/Welsh admixture

Which company? I remember some years ago you claimed to be part british, after that you started to say you were half hungarian+half albanian.

[IrisSelene]

I need to test at least my mom to figure out if it's not just MyHeritage's data or if I actually am Western-shifted for a Romanian - I seem to resemble a more Western Transylvanian than a Slavic-shifted Moldavian.I have a similar question too bc i seem to plot a lot even eastern of Moldavia which is weird considering I'm even part German which should pull me a bit western than most Romanians? Yet I'm still of the more northeastern plotting ones. If I remember correctly from the general plot maps that have been done on here.

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[TheMaestro]

Which company? I remember some years ago you claimed to be part british.

There were like 3 companies I contanstly got British the highest one was probably on FTDNA, I didn't expect at all, I don't know where it got from. It could be also some bug, but who knows, I asked in family noone heard about it.

Maybe few updates and I would get rid of it XDD Those genetic companies are not always reliable.


https://i.imgur.com/nqvlzxW.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/oL7azkz.jpg

[Scandal]

There were like 3 companies I contanstly got British the highest one was probably on FTDNA, I didn't expect at all, I don't know where it got from. It could be also some bug, but who knows, I asked in family noone heard about it.

Maybe few updates and I would get rid of it XDD Those genetic companies are not always reliable.


https://i.imgur.com/nqvlzxW.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/oL7azkz.jpg

I score '7.5% Irish, Scottish, Welsh' on myheritage but I don't have such ancestry. That would mean I am more than 1/16 British(1/16 = 6.25%) and I would have a 100% British great-great-grandpa if we took the result literally.

If gedmatch doesn't show you have any British admixture then you don't have any. If I remember correctly gedmatch considered you a basic hungarian-albanian mix.

Gedmatch/Vahaduo>Commercial companies.

Despite my british score on myheritage, I score less NW Euro than avarage hungarian, I am one of the most eastern/slavic shifted hungarian out there according to gedmatch.

I think your mother's just a hungarian from Slovakia.

[Jana]

I score '7.5% Irish, Scottish, Welsh' on myheritage but I don't have such ancestry. That would mean I am more than 1/16 British and I would have a 100% British great-great-grandpa if we took the result literally.
If gedmatch doesn't show you have any British admixture then you don't have any. Gedmatch>Commercial companies. Despite my british score on myheritage, I score less NW Euro than avarage hungarian, I am one of the most eastern/slavic shifted hungarian out there according to gedmatch.

From TA Hungarian members, you are most northeastern/Slavic shifted by far, at least until we see Hungarian Master results.
Judging form his myheritage results, he will have more NW Euro than you (but strong Slavic pull as well) so you'll probably remain most Slavic among Hungarians on TA.
Still, myheritage or any other commercial company results sometimes don't translate to gedmatch like we imagine.

My mother was above 70% eastern European (not including Balkan) on FTDNA and on gedmatch her Slavic input is below average.

[Scandal]

edit: double post.

[Scandal]

From TA Hungarian members, you are most northeastern/Slavic shifted by far, at least until we see Hungarian Master results.
Judging form his myheritage results, he will have more NW Euro than you (but strong Slavic pull as well) so you'll probably remain most Slavic among Hungarians on TA.
Still, myheritage or any other commercial company results sometimes don't translate to gedmatch like we imagine.

My mother was above 70% eastern European (not including Balkan) on FTDNA and on gedmatch her Slavic input is below average.

There are users who tested with 2 or 3 companies and after transfering their raw data to gedmatch their results from different companies ended up being 99% the same on gedmatch. Or not? I may not remember well.

[Jana]

There are users who tested with 2 or 3 companies and after transfering their raw data to gedmatch their results from different companies ended up being 99% the same on gedmatch. Or not? I may not remember well.

Yeah, raw data will be extremely similar no matter where you test. What I meant though is that sometimes you expect different gedmatch results based on results from your commercial company.
Gedmatch is by far most reliable IMO.

[xripkan]

Expected autosomal, unexpected yDNA

[gixajo]

I just have a higher west med. Nothing wrong with less Jewish since I'm not from the Middle East

Your country is quite closer to Middle East than to Iberian peninsula and jewish are evrywhere, Turkey received many Sephardic Jews from Spain and Portugal after their expulsion.

Maybe both components are related and come from the same person(s), and you have some Iberian Sephardic Jewish ancestry.

[Ryujin]

I'm not sure if you're really part Irish. Myorigins? It also gave you 6% Hungarian, but you don't have such ancestry. 23andme's breakdown is most reliable out there, even that one is not necessarily 100% accurate. I scored 5% Irish on myheritage, I 've seen other hungarians score it too but it's obviously false result and I know I'm not part Irish.

Just because I don't have 'known' ancestry of those people, does not mean I can not have them. A group of Celtic people called Galatians settled in Anatolia some centuries ago and it's only natural that they left some DNA there.

About the Hungarians; again it is not so surprising given the contact between two peoples in various parts of the history.

[Scandal]

Just because I don't have 'known' ancestry of those people, does not mean I can not have them. A group of Celtic people called Galatians settled Anatolia some centuries ago and it's only natural that they left some DNA there.

About the Hungarians; again it is not so surprising given the contact between two peoples in various parts of the history.

Yes, it's not irish per se, but something more ancient - I can agree on that one.

[TheMaestro]

I score '7.5% Irish, Scottish, Welsh' on myheritage but I don't have such ancestry. That would mean I am more than 1/16 British(1/16 = 6.25%) and I would have a 100% British great-great-grandpa if we took the result literally.

If gedmatch doesn't show you have any British admixture then you don't have any. If I remember correctly gedmatch considered you a basic hungarian-albanian mix.

Gedmatch/Vahaduo>Commercial companies.

Despite my british score on myheritage, I score less NW Euro than avarage hungarian, I am one of the most eastern/slavic shifted hungarian out there according to gedmatch.

I think your mother's just a hungarian from Slovakia.

Yeah, why not, I though get many matches that are shifted towards UK at 20 pointer while it could be shifted towards Russia or Spain. My mom is also more N shifted than average Hungarian.

[TheMaestro]

double

[Figaro]

which test confirmed that? 23andme?

Yep, 23

[calxpal]

Nothing was really terribly unexpected for me, the results aligned quite well with what I knew for the most part :), although I was slightly less NW Euro than I expected.

[Frowning Man]

Perhaps it was unexpected for me to recognize my haplogroup.

[Dr_Maul]

I have more Central Asian % on 23andMe than actual Eurasian admix on GEDmatch...

[Chris596]

That I completely (or almost) lack any Germanic ancestry, which is unusual for Hungarians. And that I'm almost fully Balkanic genetically.

[Ylla]

I didn't expect to plot with greeks because I didn't know we had genetic overlap before I tested. I'm also more southern than average for my ethnicity.
My mtdna could have slavic or turkic origins, need to do further testing 🤗

[Dušan]

My results are quite expected.

This Y-DNA haplogroup is most prevailed in my ethnicity, so it was big possibility that I get it.

Autosomal result was expected, with a bit more Slavic-shifted, considering my fathers and mine phenotype.

One interesting thing was 1% Siberian admixture in FTDNA MyOrigin 2.0, as well as 1-2% Siberian admixture in many Gedmatch calculators.
Now we can see that some ancient Slavic samples have it, as well.

[Dušan]

And I learned that we are simmilar to Moldovans by autosomal genetics.

[Ion Basescul]

Yep, I thought that me getting 0.3% Ashkenazi on 23andme was a fluke, but then my dad and brother who tested on MyHeritage received 8 times more Jewish matches than my mom. They didn't get any Jewish-specific component on MyHeritage, but this tells me that the admixture is real, even if it's so small that it's borderline undedectable. After I told my dad about that, he was surprised but also remembered that his father told him that his grandmas great-grandpa was a noteable landowner in the town of Orhei. At that time, more than 2/3 of the population of the town was Jewish, with the remainder being Romanian, Russian and Ukrainian. So considering that this person is my 6 x grand parent, that would mean that they contributed 1/64 of my DNA. 100/64 means that if he was full Jewish (I need to dig the archives on him, as I don't even know the name, let alone the surname) then I am 1.5%, whereas genetically because of how redistribution of DNA segments is chaotic, I am left with only 0.3%.

[IrisSelene]

Yep, I thought that me getting 0.3% Ashkenazi on 23andme was a fluke, but then my dad and brother who tested on MyHeritage received 8 times more Jewish matches than my mom. They didn't get any Jewish-specific component on MyHeritage, but this tells me that the admixture is real, even if it's so small that it's borderline undedectable. After I told my dad about that, he was surprised but also remembered that his father told him that his grandmas great-grandpa was a noteable landowner in the town of Orhei. At that time, more than 2/3 of the population of the town was Jewish, with the remainder being Romanian, Russian and Ukrainian. So considering that this person is my 6 x grand parent, that would mean that they contributed 1/64 of my DNA. 100/64 means that if he was full Jewish (I need to dig the archives on him, as I don't even know the name, let alone the surname) then I am 1.5%, whereas genetically because of how redistribution of DNA segments is chaotic, I am left with only 0.3%.

That's so weird. I swear these tests confuse me more instead of helping lol.

You have 0.3% and yet you found Jewish relatives?

I got 0.3% Jewish on 23andme but I couldn't find anyone Jewish, granted, I have a pretty small number of matches for some reason lol. But yeah. No luck for now.

And on gedmatch I don't really get Jewish, instead I get Caucasus a lot.

That's so cool tho, hope you find more information about that side of your family soon.

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[Ion Basescul]

That's so weird. I swear these tests confuse me more instead of helping lol.

You have 0.3% and yet you found Jewish relatives?

I got 0.3% Jewish on 23andme but I couldn't find anyone Jewish, granted, I have a pretty small number of matches for some reason lol. But yeah. No luck for now.

And on gedmatch I don't really get Jewish, instead I get Caucasus a lot.

That's so cool tho, hope you find more information about that side of your family soon.

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Yep, I get them everywhere. I didn't count the number of fully Jewish matches on 23andme, but I wouldn't be surprised if they were at least 50.

https://i.ibb.co/pRNGpST/image.png

https://i.ibb.co/7pZnsc9/image.png

https://i.ibb.co/WD25LLd/image.png

https://i.ibb.co/ykH2f5p/image.png

With my father and brother, as opposed to my mother, I confirmed via the rate of Jewish components among their matches on MyHeritage. To me the difference is clearly indicative of this admixture coming from the paternal line.

Father
https://i.ibb.co/c1PXMny/image.png

Brother
https://i.ibb.co/Jt6Vjy9/image.png

I (23andme upload)
https://i.ibb.co/VY7XWpS/image.png

Mother
https://i.ibb.co/DgV89XY/image.png

[Dirdepo]

Yep, I thought that me getting 0.3% Ashkenazi on 23andme was a fluke, but then my dad and brother who tested on MyHeritage received 8 times more Jewish matches than my mom. They didn't get any Jewish-specific component on MyHeritage, but this tells me that the admixture is real, even if it's so small that it's borderline undedectable. After I told my dad about that, he was surprised but also remembered that his father told him that his grandmas great-grandpa was a noteable landowner in the town of Orhei. At that time, more than 2/3 of the population of the town was Jewish, with the remainder being Romanian, Russian and Ukrainian. So considering that this person is my 6 x grand parent, that would mean that they contributed 1/64 of my DNA. 100/64 means that if he was full Jewish (I need to dig the archives on him, as I don't even know the name, let alone the surname) then I am 1.5%, whereas genetically because of how redistribution of DNA segments is chaotic, I am left with only 0.3%.

Lmao

[Ion Basescul]

Lmao

What?

[Kökény]

My mtdna was the only thing that surprised me. I like it, because it's not that common among people of my ethnicity.

[Luke35]

Like Kokeny, my haplo is rare (Paternal in my case) amongst people of my ethnicity.

[Kökény]

Like Kokeny, my haplo is rare (Paternal in my case) amongst people of my ethnicity.
Being N is cool, be it paternal or maternal. :cool:

[Ion Basescul]

Being N is cool, be it paternal or maternal. :cool:

There is one N1b1 user from Romania on yfull's mtree. Not sure if that's you.

[Kökény]

There is one N1b1 user from Romania on yfull's mtree. Not sure if that's you.
Nope, that's not me.

[mitalit]

A recent italian ancestor and that I am a little more northern than the average spaniard (but 23andme gives me very normal results, and I trust 23andme a lot)

[Blemoir]

When I first saw the results I was really surprised with West Asia and Middle East. Now I can understand where this comes from, but at the time it was unexpected.

[Slavic Italian]

My paternal line is from the East and not the West.

[JosephK]

...That my wife and I are essentially uninterpretable.

[Figaro]

My mtdna was the only thing that surprised me. I like it, because it's not that common among people of my ethnicity.

Same here, I coulda mentioned my mtdna as well. I wonder how it got to northern Europe. I don't think it's simply part of the so-called EEF migrations.

[ReggieM]

Going into ancestry testing I knew I was French Canadian on my dad's side (though English speaking for 100 years) and either Irish or Scottish on my mom's side. My dad was anti-French so he didn't like talking about his background, and my mom had some genealogy done on her dad's side from northern Ireland but wasn't sure if her mom's side was Welsh, English or Scottish.

So going in I'm thinking maybe 30-50% French, 30-50% Irish, Scottish, maybe English or whatever.

When I get my results back they are 65% Ireland and 35% "Europe West". Very generic but I shrugged, because that added up with what I did know about my dad's background by then (Norman and Breton). Then a few revisions later and I'm at 59% Scottish with a community in Caithness, 10% Irish, 9% Welsh, 20% English and only 2% French. Extremely bizarre for someone who is apparently half French but then again my family has been speaking English for a long time (and presumably marrying English speaking Catholics).

[axel.aleman]

I have an North African haplogroup AND with my surname my colonial ancestry trace back to the Canary Islands