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princeton90
10-20-2020, 05:20 PM
Of course anyone can pass in US but what I mean by being passable in US is looking like a person who doesn’t have recent immigration background. Do you agree?

JosephK
10-20-2020, 05:24 PM
Up until fairly recently, I think, there was an "American" look, that generalized mix of Anglo-Germanic/Scots/Irish that distinguished White Americans even from Canadians... it's a little harder to capture these days, but I still agree with you that there is probably still such a look...

Although perhaps that would be "passable as an American" rather than "in the US," which indeed could be anyone.

JamesBond007
10-20-2020, 05:26 PM
Of course anyone can pass in US but what I mean by being passable in US is looking like a person who doesn’t have recent immigration background. Do you agree?



You mean English/Welsh, Scottish ,northern Irish and to a lesser extant Dutch and German (Hessians)? I can pass as Scottish or Northern Irish I think. America, of course, used to be a British colony so British ethnicities were once more common.

princeton90
10-20-2020, 05:33 PM
You mean English/Welsh, Scottish ,northern Irish and to a lesser extant Dutch and German (Hessians)? I can pass as Scottish or Northern Irish I think. America, of course, used to be a British colony so British ethnicities were once more common.

When saying looking like an American without recent immigration background, I mean the Americans who migrated before 1900s.

Creoda
10-20-2020, 05:39 PM
Just say passable as a typical White American, that is something people understand and agree upon.

JamesBond007
10-20-2020, 05:47 PM
When saying looking like an American without recent immigration background, I mean the Americans who migrated before 1900s.

Ok, so you mean not southern European and not Eastern European to simplify things ? I mean maybe there were some of those before then but not a lot.

chociprasa
10-20-2020, 06:46 PM
A typical white American look is an Anglo/Irish + German/Central (Western) European mix to me, many white Americans look like Anglo/Irish-German blends. Something like an Atlantid/KN/Brünn + Alpine blend would be a typical white American look, in my opinion.

Many (white) Americans also appear to be mixed with Native American (Silvid) resulting in "foreign looking" features such as more shallow set or slanted eyes, more convex or flatter nose/facial features, longer midface than what is typically common for Europeans etc; similar "American" looking features may begin to "show" when there's an African American ancestor involved.

Alenka
10-20-2020, 06:48 PM
You probably mean passable as a WASP.

Jacques de Imbelloni
10-20-2020, 06:52 PM
Of course anyone can pass in US but what I mean by being passable in US is looking like a person who doesn’t have recent immigration background. Do you agree?
https://images.justwatch.com/backdrop/8612745/s1440/el-rey-de-la-colina
https://images.clarin.com/2015/03/19/SyWvlt4AQg_1256x620.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EORAHRwX4AAQvLB.jpg

Mixdguy17
10-20-2020, 06:53 PM
You mean as a typical WASP then an not as a typical white American since Many are Euro Mutts have ancestry from North, South and East.

chociprasa
10-20-2020, 06:58 PM
You probably mean passable as a WASP.

Most Americans don't look like "WASPs" though, if they were British/Irish looking they would've looked like, say... Australians – which they don't. Most Americans look like Anglo-German mixes.

JosephK
10-20-2020, 07:07 PM
Most Americans don't look like "WASPs" though, if they were British/Irish looking they would've looked like, say... Australians – which they don't. Most Americans look like Anglo-German mixes.

In the Southeast and the West, Americans look like Australians. But environmental differences, even language dialects, affect facial phenotype that there will always be a bit of a difference between genetically similar, geographically separated groups.

Immanenz
10-20-2020, 08:00 PM
In the Southeast and the West, Americans look like Australians. But environmental differences, even language dialects, affect facial phenotype that there will always be a bit of a difference between genetically similar, geographically separated groups.

While Australians look more British Isles, light Americans from that area are closer to Germanic/ Scandinavic- British mixes.
If you look however ordinary white from all around the country in the States- only East Slavic, Finno Permic and very woggy Southeuro/ West Asian look cant be considered in the range of white American.

Kivan
10-20-2020, 08:03 PM
https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/overweight-man-with-a-shotgun-picture-id72883554?s=612x612

Trouble
10-20-2020, 08:06 PM
Almost anyone can pass as white in America.

Immanenz
10-20-2020, 08:11 PM
Almost anyone can pass as white in America.

Exactly

Mixdguy17
10-20-2020, 08:35 PM
While Australians look more British Isles, light Americans from that area are closer to Germanic/ Scandinavic- British mixes.
If you look however ordinary white from all around the country in the States- only East Slavic, Finno Permic and very woggy Southeuro/ West Asian look cant be consider in the range of white American.

I agree with this.

KingOf
10-20-2020, 08:53 PM
To me someone like David Hasselhoff is the American look

https://www.thefamouspeople.com/profiles/images/david-hasselhoff.jpg
https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/season-3-pictured-david-hasselhoff-as-michael-knight-photo-by-gary-picture-id141271020?s=612x612

Creoda
10-20-2020, 09:25 PM
To me someone like these people are the American look (I'm not influenced by famous TV shows or anything).

https://ewedit.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/general-lee.jpg?w=2000
https://theallandtheevery.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/fonzi.jpg
https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.lWQkrfLV8RGxxIwmxCd0XgHaEK?pid=Api&rs=1
https://peopledotcom.files.wordpress.com/2019/06/punky-brewster-2.jpg
https://tvseriesfinale.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/alf-590x388.jpg
http://media4.s-nbcnews.com/i/streams/2013/May/130520/6C7495022-tdy-130520-cheers-cast.jpg
https://cdn2.lamag.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/6/2014/11/billcosby850.jpg

JosephK
10-20-2020, 09:31 PM
To me someone like these people are the American look (I'm not influenced by famous TV shows or anything).

https://theallandtheevery.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/fonzi.jpg

Henry Winkler, a Jew playing an Italian, which was supposed to be representative of 1950's Milwaukee...

https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.lWQkrfLV8RGxxIwmxCd0XgHaEK?pid=Api&rs=1
Taxi, based in New York, represented typical New York Jewish and Immigrant cultures...

Creoda
10-20-2020, 09:55 PM
Henry Winkler, a Jew playing an Italian, which was supposed to be representative of 1950's Milwaukee...

Taxi, based in New York, represented typical New York Jewish and Immigrant cultures...
Thanks for the synopsis. All of them have a nightmarish quality.

princeton90
10-21-2020, 08:44 AM
Ok, so you mean not southern European and not Eastern European to simplify things ? I mean maybe there were some of those before then but not a lot.


You probably mean passable as a WASP.


You mean as a typical WASP then an not as a typical white American since Many are Euro Mutts have ancestry from North, South and East.

Yes, exactly.