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Tooting Carmen
10-21-2020, 09:58 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_Perceptions_Index

Some of the results are quite intriguing.

1/(4) Singapore
2/(16) Hong Kong
3/(20) Japan
4/(21) United Arab Emirates (N.B. above France and USA)
5/(25) Bhutan
6/(26) Chile
7/(28) Taiwan
8/(29) Bahamas
9/(30) Barbados/Qatar (N.B. on par with Spain and Portugal)
11/(34) Botswana
12/(35) Brunei
13/(39) St Vincent and the Grenadines/South Korea
15/(41) Cape Verde
16/(44) Georgia/Costa Rica
18/(48) Dominica/St Lucia
20/(51) Rwanda/Grenada/Saudi Arabia/Malaysia (N.B. on par with Italy)

TheMaestro
10-21-2020, 10:06 PM
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Tooting Carmen
11-30-2020, 03:39 PM
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RogueState
11-30-2020, 06:32 PM
I see in many socio-economical indicators in terms of international ranking, that Botswana does seem to perform well compared to other SSA countries

Does anybody know why ?

Dr_Maul
11-30-2020, 07:08 PM
I see in many socio-economical indicators in terms of international ranking, that Botswana does seem to perform well compared to other SSA countries

Does anybody know why ?

The amount of resources they have compared to population

Kivan
11-30-2020, 07:11 PM
I was thinking about Japan when i saw the title of the thread.

Marmara
11-30-2020, 07:33 PM
You missed Uruguay (21) and Chile (26) and Costa Rica (44)

Tooting Carmen
11-30-2020, 08:23 PM
You missed Uruguay (21) and Chile (26) and Costa Rica (44)

Uruguay is predominantly White. I did mention the other two.

Marmara
11-30-2020, 08:47 PM
Uruguay is predominantly White.

How is it white? They're latinas.

Tooting Carmen
11-30-2020, 08:53 PM
How is it white? They're latinas.

They're overwhelmingly of Spanish and Italian descent with relatively little Amerindian or Afro ancestry.

Marmara
11-30-2020, 09:01 PM
They're overwhelmingly of Spanish and Italian descent with relatively little Amerindian or Afro ancestry.

Nobody considers them white and neither should you.

Erronkari
11-30-2020, 09:02 PM
If you are considering +85% Euro = whites then yes, Uruguay shouldn't be included as you made.
Even +90% Euro are around 50% of the population.

Komintasavalta
11-30-2020, 09:05 PM
Nobody considers them white and neither should you.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uruguayans#Racial_and_ethnic_groups (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uruguayans#Racial_and_ethnic_groups):


Europeans or whites

People of European ancestry comprise 87.7% of Uruguay's population according to the 2011 official Census.[15] Early Uruguayans are descendants of colonists from Spain and Portugal during the colonial period prior to 1810. Similar to the demographics of Argentina, more recent immigrants from Europe, largely from Italy, Germany and France, arrived in the great migratory wave during the late 19th century and early 20th century. Today, Uruguay's culture is influenced heavily by its European roots which is evident in its language, food and other aspects of everyday life.[16]

Mestizos & Amerindians

Up to 2.4% of the population are of Mestizo (European-Amerindian) ancestry according to the 2011 census.[15] People with Amerindian ancestry can be found in the north of Uruguay, primarily in Tacuarembó Department, where the Amerindian ancestry accounts for 20% of the population.

A 1996 census identified that 12,600 people in Uruguay were Amerindian descendants. In 2006, a census confirmed that there were 115,118 Uruguayans that descended from one Amerindian ethnic group, the Charrúas, reaching up to 4% of the country's population. In 2005, Sinthia Pagano, M.D conducted a genetic study, detecting the possibility that 38% of Uruguayans may have expressed partial genetic influence from the Amerindian population.[17][18]

Africans

Africans, Blacks and Mulattos in Uruguay are more or less 209,662 and they are mostly found in Montevideo, Rivera Department, Artigas Department, Salto Department and Cerro Largo Department.[19] A 2011 census marked that there are more than 300,000 African descendants and that 80% of Afro-Uruguayans are under the working class line.[20]

Erronkari
11-30-2020, 09:10 PM
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uruguayans#Racial_and_ethnic_groups (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uruguayans#Racial_and_ethnic_groups):


Europeans or whites

People of European ancestry comprise 87.7% of Uruguay's population according to the 2011 official Census.[15] Early Uruguayans are descendants of colonists from Spain and Portugal during the colonial period prior to 1810. Similar to the demographics of Argentina, more recent immigrants from Europe, largely from Italy, Germany and France, arrived in the great migratory wave during the late 19th century and early 20th century. Today, Uruguay's culture is influenced heavily by its European roots which is evident in its language, food and other aspects of everyday life.[16]

Mestizos & Amerindians

Up to 2.4% of the population are of Mestizo (European-Amerindian) ancestry according to the 2011 census.[15] People with Amerindian ancestry can be found in the north of Uruguay, primarily in Tacuarembó Department, where the Amerindian ancestry accounts for 20% of the population.

A 1996 census identified that 12,600 people in Uruguay were Amerindian descendants. In 2006, a census confirmed that there were 115,118 Uruguayans that descended from one Amerindian ethnic group, the Charrúas, reaching up to 4% of the country's population. In 2005, Sinthia Pagano, M.D conducted a genetic study, detecting the possibility that 38% of Uruguayans may have expressed partial genetic influence from the Amerindian population.[17][18]

Africans

Africans, Blacks and Mulattos in Uruguay are more or less 209,662 and they are mostly found in Montevideo, Rivera Department, Artigas Department, Salto Department and Cerro Largo Department.[19] A 2011 census marked that there are more than 300,000 African descendants and that 80% of Afro-Uruguayans are under the working class line.[20]

Yes, even though genetically talking many of those "European or Whites" have mínimal mixes, but they are very low and in most cases they don't have extra euro traits.

Tooting Carmen
11-30-2020, 09:11 PM
Could we get back to topic please? Many people in this forum believe it is impossible for non-Western nations to be more successful or well-governed than Western nations.

Sebastianus Rex
11-30-2020, 09:17 PM
I don't believe these rankings...it is more about the perception of corruption than the actual level of corruption.

Sebastianus Rex
11-30-2020, 09:23 PM
Could we get back to topic please? Many people in this forum believe it is impossible for non-Western nations to be more successful or well-governed than Western nations.

I don't, the way Europe is handling this corona crisis is a prime example of how incompetent are our elites...but these rankings are fishy and don't take in consideration many "cultural" issues...

Cernunnos
11-30-2020, 09:25 PM
There is no curruption in dictatorships and fragile democracies. You know why? Because nobody investigates anyone. At least the filthy rich.

Tooting Carmen
11-30-2020, 09:27 PM
It is principally international NGOs and businesses who are surveyed, not local elites or masses.

Tannhauser
11-30-2020, 09:45 PM
If you are considering +85% Euro = whites then yes, Uruguay shouldn't be included as you made.
Even +90% Euro are around 50% of the population.

Not long ago, I quoted this Marmara, telling him that for some people the world was bigger than for others.

When he learns that Uruguay is not only white but also culturally more Western-minded than his country would dream of.

Tannhauser
11-30-2020, 09:59 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_Perceptions_Index

Some of the results are quite intriguing.

1/(4) Singapore
2/(16) Hong Kong
3/(20) Japan
4/(21) United Arab Emirates (N.B. above France and USA)
5/(25) Bhutan
6/(26) Chile
7/(28) Taiwan
8/(29) Bahamas
9/(30) Barbados/Qatar (N.B. on par with Spain and Portugal)
11/(34) Botswana
12/(35) Brunei
13/(39) St Vincent and the Grenadines/South Korea
15/(41) Cape Verde
16/(44) Georgia/Costa Rica
18/(48) Dominica/St Lucia
20/(51) Rwanda/Grenada/Saudi Arabia/Malaysia (N.B. on par with Italy)

More liberal market, less corruption?

Tooting Carmen
01-08-2021, 07:58 PM
More liberal market, less corruption?

Not necessarily. Bhutan is a notoriously very closed country, but it is nonetheless peaceful and benign. I doubt Rwanda or Cape Verde are overly capitalist either.

ixulescu
01-08-2021, 08:05 PM
corruption perception is a bullshit concept and so is Transparency International, the organization that pushes it.