This is not Negroid admixture. Right?

[princeton90]

On Reddit and Quora, some people thought that this is Negroid admixture and therefore French and Southern Europeans are partly black. I don't know why those people think like that. IMO, this is ancient North African admixture which spread during Neolithic migrations. Right?
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/58/33/38/583338b353ee6361c7a26c50a4ac5de2.gif

[WeirdLookingFellow]

Didn't Leto say that these Dodecad maps and graphs are not really accurate either way?

[Adamm]

On Reddit and Quora, some people thought that this is Negroid admixture and therefore French and Southern Europeans are partly black. I don't know why those people think like that. IMO, this is ancient North African admixture which spread during Neolithic migrations. Right?
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/58/33/38/583338b353ee6361c7a26c50a4ac5de2.gif

Doubt it would be negroid, otherwise it would mean that I have 40% negroid admixture which isn't correct.

[lei.talk]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cn961fp19EQ





https://i.imgur.com/soqro4A.png (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moors)

[Aren]

SSA admixture is only present in Iberians and certain South Italians. Eupedia is dogshit in general dunno why anyone even bothers.

[Abdelnour]

Can we just stop spamming maps based on GEDMatch results? It seems like every Tom, Dick, and Harry will post maps like these and are unaware where they came from and is usually posted by people with agendas.

I do think Eurogenes is good. So is Dodecad, but I personally think G25 should be used to get an accurate description of SSA admixture.

[princeton90]

Can we just stop spamming maps based on GEDMatch results? It seems like every Tom, Dick, and Harry will post maps like these and are unaware where they came from and is usually posted by people with agendas.

I do think Eurogenes is good. So is Dodecad, but I personally think G25 should be used to get an accurate description of SSA admixture.

The map might be incorrect but as I said in the original post, it is clearly not Negroid admixture. I don't think Lebanese are more than 1% Negroid.

[brennus dux gallorum]

It is SSA admixture. Therefore yes, negroid. French people have some subsaharan african ancestors as it seems

[Abdelnour]

The map might be incorrect but as I said in the original post, it is clearly not Negroid admixture. I don't think Lebanese are more than 1% Negroid.

Some Lebanese Muslims may have 3 percent but in general it is low or nonexistent.

[Hamilcar]

It is SSA admixture. Therefore yes, negroid. French people have some subsaharan african ancestors as it seems

no it can't be because that would imply that portuguese and galicians are 5-10% ssa and that north moroccans like me are 40% ssa (40% ssa is more like Obama lol)

[XenophobicPrussian]

It's semi Negroid admixture. I know the calculator, and this component is based on East Africans, not pure SSAs. East Africans are 50% Caucasoid. So yes, Morrocans can be modelled as 40% East African(and their African admixture was more East African like anyway than West African, from Iberomaurasians who were already heavily Caucasoid). Basically take these numbers, half them, and you have actual SSA admixture.

[Leto]

Didn't Leto say that these Dodecad maps and graphs are not really accurate either way?
They aren't if they are based on the original Dod spreadsheet. But I may be unaware of something, don't know much about North Africa.

[Hamilcar]

It's semi Negroid admixture. I know the calculator, and this component is based on East Africans, not pure SSAs. East Africans are 50% Caucasoid. So yes, Morrocans can be modelled as 40% East African(and their African admixture was more East African like anyway than West African, from Iberomaurasians who were already heavily Caucasoid). Basically take these numbers, half them, and you have actual SSA admixture.

No moroccans can't be modelled as 40% east african (it's more complex) and no their iberomaurusian component wasn't ssa nor similar to modern east africans you're simply confused by where they plot but you know nothing about their ethnogenesis

[Smeagol]

Nope, the map is including the North African component as "African."

[princeton90]

It's semi Negroid admixture. I know the calculator, and this component is based on East Africans, not pure SSAs. East Africans are 50% Caucasoid. So yes, Morrocans can be modelled as 40% East African(and their African admixture was more East African like anyway than West African, from Iberomaurasians who were already heavily Caucasoid). Basically take these numbers, half them, and you have actual SSA admixture.

I guess it's not East African because Moroccans have more of this admixture than Egyptians, although Egyptians are more Negroid than Moroccans.

[JamesBond007]

Can we just stop spamming maps based on GEDMatch results? It seems like every Tom, Dick, and Harry will post maps like these and are unaware where they came from and is usually posted by people with agendas.

I do think Eurogenes is good. So is Dodecad, but I personally think G25 should be used to get an accurate description of SSA admixture.

It's all retarded WOG and Polack science that contradicts each other numerous ways and other reputable DNA analysis shows I have 0% SSA such as dna.land (associated with Columbia University), LivingDNA (WASP science) and here :

https://sequencing.com/dna-ancestry-genetic-genealogy-report

etc...

[brennus dux gallorum]

no it can't be because that would imply that portuguese and galicians are 5-10% ssa and that north moroccans like me are 40% ssa (40% ssa is more like Obama lol)

I dont see anything wrong about the later (north africa being that ssa)

[Hamilcar]

I dont see anything wrong about the later (north africa being that ssa)

sure

[Leto]

As a side remark, not all East African tribes are 50% Caucasoid. Somalis are closer to 60% SSA I believe and Ethiopia has almost purely SSA, pitch-black tribes who wear disks in their lower lips.

[Hamilcar]

As a side remark, not all East African tribes are 50% Caucasoid. Somalis are closer to 60% SSA I believe and Ethiopia has almost purely SSA, pitch-black tribes who wear disks in their lower lips.

except tigray all horners are below 50% of west eurasian ancestry :

https://i.imgur.com/E0bSOr2.png

[Adamm]

I dont see anything wrong about the later (north africa being that ssa)

40% SSA in in average N. Africans? That's way too high and doesn't add up with the data provided by G25.

[Kyp]

It probably combines all african components on Dodecad.

[lei.talk]

The African admixture (https://www.eupedia.com/europe/autosomal_maps_dodecad.shtml#African) was computed by adding up the Northwest African, East African, Neo African and Paleo African components, which were too minor in Europe on their own. African admixture was found among Neolithic farmers (https://www.eupedia.com/genetics/haplogroups_of_neolithic_farmers.shtml), and especially those from the southern Levant, who assimilated the Mesolitic Natufians (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natufian_culture) (confirmed to belong to Y-haplogroup E1b1b (https://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_E1b1b_Y-DNA.shtml)). The Neolithic farmers who carried the most African admixture to Europe were those who followed the southern route via North Africa, then spreading from Spain to western Europe with the Megalithic cultures (https://www.eupedia.com/genetics/megalithic_culture.shtml). Some individuals from the Funnelbeaker culture (https://www.eupedia.com/genetics/funnelbeaker_culture.shtml) in Scandinavia, which derives partly from the Atlantic Megalithic (https://www.eupedia.com/genetics/megalithic_culture.shtml), carried as much as 11% of this African admixture. It subsisted at lower frequency in Scandinavia at least until the Late Iron Age (https://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/33084-African-admixture-in-ancient-Germanic-Scandinavian-people). Later, the Phonenician/Carthagenian colonisation, then the Arab conquest of the Iberian peninsula and of Sicily brough additional North African DNA to southern Europe. This admixture is essentially a Northwest African, but contains some Sub-Saharan African too, like in North Africa itself. Note the resemblance with the distribution of Y-DNA haplogroup E-M81 (https://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_E1b1b_Y-DNA.shtml#M81).

[sailormoon]

According to the creator of the admixture map, this African admixture is essentially a Northwest African, but contains some Sub-Saharan African just like in North Africa. Gene-flow from North Africa to three surrounding coastal areas that have been documented to have had historical contact with North Africans: Tuscany, Iberia and the Canary Islands. In the Iberian Peninsula, the inferred date of North African related admixture is from around the eleventh century (1027–1058) to the second half of the fourteenth century (1330–1356).

https://royalsocietypublishing.org/cms/asset/421fd8ab-857f-49ed-9ff0-5cabec56d793/rspb20190471f03.gif

Figure 3. Globetrotter admixture results for the three geographical regions analysed (Tuscany, Iberia and the Canary Islands). The mean admixture date and confidence intervals for each admixture event are shown above the graphs. The geographical locations of surrogates that contribute more than 2.5% are coloured in the maps, with circle sizes showing the proportion of contribution. Coloured areas boundaries are defined by the genetic clusters' geographical distribution. Each different shade of grey corresponds to a different admixing source group, with the surrogates representing that source group linked via a continuous or dashed line (Arauna et al. 2019).



African admixture
The African admixture was computed by adding up the Northwest African, East African, Neo African and Paleo African components, which were too minor in Europe on their own. African admixture was found among Neolithic farmers, and especially those from the southern Levant, who assimilated the Mesolitic Natufians (confirmed to belong to Y-haplogroup E1b1b). The Neolithic farmers who carried the most African admixture to Europe were those who followed the southern route via North Africa, then spreading from Spain to western Europe with the Megalithic cultures. Some individuals from the Funnelbeaker culture in Scandinavia, which derives partly from the Atlantic Megalithic, carried as much as 11% of this African admixture. It subsisted at lower frequency in Scandinavia at least until the Late Iron Age. Later, the Phonenician/Carthagenian colonisation, then the Arab conquest of the Iberian peninsula and of Sicily brough additional North African DNA to southern Europe. This admixture is essentially a Northwest African, but contains some Sub-Saharan African too, like in North Africa itself. Note the resemblance with the distribution of Y-DNA haplogroup E-M81.
https://www.eupedia.com/europe/autosomal_maps_dodecad.shtml

[Leto]

Why did they single out Tuscany specifically? It's not even a Southern Italian region but to the west of Rome.

[Hamilcar]

Why did they single out Tuscany specifically? It's not even a Southern Italian region but to the west of Rome.

apparently it has NA admixture too

[NSXD60]

The people making these maps are PC leftists trying to make Blacks feel included, the same people who claim humans create climate change.

[Cernunnos]

Well I'm only 0,5% SSA or maybe less close to 0. I'm overal a caucasian/caucasoid individual. But I wouldn't mind if I scored 1/2/3% SSA.