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Abriekman
10-22-2020, 03:35 PM
Hi, is there any way to tell If I have Balkan Turkish ancestry, i mean most likely i have it, considering my ancestor was from Silistra province, but I do not know how much
Genealogically I did not prove my Sephardic ancestry, which can be confused with Turkish, I proved it only by matches, other tests, so I do not know exact percentage, Sephardic Jews also have similiar to Balkan Turks results on many tests


On Eurogenes K13 i can model myself as 87,5 East European 6,25 Bulgarian 6,25 Middle Eastern

or also in that way

Target: Abriekman
Distance: 4.4122% / 4.41220944
85.4 Polish
14.6 Turk_Drama

Target: Abriekman
Distance: 4.6782% / 4.67823487
89.6 Polish
5.6 Bulgaria_average
4.8 Turkmen

Maybe you can recommend good calculator for detecting it or rejecting it. I saw usually Bulgarians do not score Turkmen, while I score some, but I am not saying anything, i need person who wants help me with it

Fedora
10-22-2020, 03:36 PM
Post Dodecad k12 ?

Abriekman
10-22-2020, 03:51 PM
Post Dodecad k12 ?

Population
Gedrosia 5.64 Pct
Siberian 0.66 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 0.78 Pct
Atlantic_Med 21.98 Pct
North_European 49.98 Pct
South_Asian 0.49 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 2.98 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 17.49 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

I do not know if it is representative , even If I have it it is maximum 1/8

If I use vahaduo with Eastern European and Balkan Turk samples it is overestimating it if it is to 16%

Kaspias
10-22-2020, 04:30 PM
I don't think it possible to detect 1/8 ancestry for sure. You can model like 1/4 & 1/8 Bulgarian or Balkan Turk:



[1,] "10.5% Laz + 89.5% Ukrainian" "1.0715"
[2,] "10.5% Hemshin + 89.5% Ukrainian" "1.1052"
[3,] "10.7% Greek_Pontus + 89.3% Ukrainian" "1.1499"
[4,] "10.1% Georgian_Adjara + 89.9% Ukrainian" "1.1642"
[5,] "10.8% Turk_East_Black_Sea + 89.2% Ukrainian" "1.1879"
[6,] "15.2% Greek_Cappadocia + 84.8% PL_Mazovia" "1.1967"
[7,] "14% Armenian_West + 86% PL_Mazovia" "1.2161"
[8,] "10.2% Georgian_Turkey + 89.8% Ukrainian" "1.2463"
[9,] "11.1% Turk_Ahiska + 88.9% Ukrainian" "1.2758"
[10,] "83.7% Belorussian + 16.3% Greek_Cappadocia" "1.3455"
[11,] "11.2% Armenian_East + 88.8% Ukrainian" "1.3497"
[12,] "13.9% Assyrian_West + 86.1% PL_Mazovia" "1.3828"
[13,] "11% Georgian_mixed + 89% Ukrainian" "1.3909"
[14,] "10.3% Georgian_Imereti + 89.7% Ukrainian" "1.3927"
[15,] "13.8% Assyrian_North + 86.2% PL_Mazovia" "1.4423"
[16,] "13.8% Assyrian_South + 86.2% PL_Mazovia" "1.4499"
[17,] "14.5% Armenian_East + 85.5% PL_Mazovia" "1.488"
[18,] "13.8% Mountain_Jew_Chechnya + 86.2% PL_Mazovia" "1.5073"
[19,] "10.8% Armenian_West + 89.2% Ukrainian" "1.5157"
[20,] "14.6% Nusayri_Turkey + 85.4% PL_Mazovia" "1.5159"
[21,] "13.8% Azeri_Jew + 86.2% PL_Mazovia" "1.5217"
[22,] "84.8% PL_Mazovia + 15.2% Turk_East" "1.5401"
[23,] "10.6% Georgian_Gurian + 89.4% Ukrainian" "1.5423"
[24,] "15% Armenian_West + 85% Belorussian" "1.55"
[25,] "11.8% Turk_East + 88.2% Ukrainian" "1.5801"
[26,] "10.3% Georgian_Mingrelian + 89.7% Ukrainian" "1.5902"
[27,] "11.7% Udi_Azerbaijan + 88.3% Ukrainian" "1.5986"
[28,] "13.7% Greek_Pontus + 86.3% PL_Mazovia" "1.5999"
[29,] "11.7% Greek_Cappadocia + 88.3% Ukrainian" "1.6234"
[30,] "17.6% Greek_Izmir + 82.4% Rus_Smolensk" "1.6298"
[31,] "19.3% Greek_Foca + 80.7% Rus_Smolensk" "1.6366"
[32,] "85.3% Belorussian + 14.7% Greek_Pontus" "1.6694"
[33,] "18.3% Greek_Crete + 81.7% PL_Mazovia" "1.6937"
[34,] "10.3% Georgia_Jews + 89.7% Ukrainian" "1.6994"
[35,] "10.9% Georgian_Svan + 89.1% PL_GreaterPoland" "1.7005"
[36,] "11.5% Abkhazian + 88.5% PL_GreaterPoland" "1.711"
[37,] "11.1% Abkhazian + 88.9% Ukrainian" "1.7117"
[38,] "28.1% Bulgarian_East + 71.9% Rus_Smolensk" "1.7159"
[39,] "15.5% Armenian_East + 84.5% Belorussian" "1.7183"
[40,] "17.1% Greek_Kos + 82.9% PL_Mazovia" "1.7213"
[41,] "32.1% Pomak + 67.9% Rus_Smolensk" "1.7215"
[42,] "11% Georgian_Gurian + 89% PL_GreaterPoland" "1.7226"
[43,] "24.4% Bulgarian_Thrace + 75.6% Rus_Smolensk" "1.7287"
[44,] "13.6% Iraqi_Jew + 86.4% PL_Mazovia" "1.7292"
[45,] "28% Greek_Macedonia + 72% Rus_Smolensk" "1.7421"
[46,] "83.6% PL_Mazovia + 16.4% Turk_Central_East" "1.748"
[47,] "10.6% Georgian_Mingrelian + 89.4% PL_GreaterPoland" "1.7565"
[48,] "16.9% Greek_Crete + 83.1% Rus_Smolensk" "1.7661"
[49,] "13.7% Iranian_Jew + 86.3% PL_Mazovia" "1.7729"
[50,] "13.9% Greek_Cappadocia + 86.1% Rus_Smolensk" "1.7773"
[51,] "21.9% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain + 78.1% PL_Mazovia" "1.7789"
[52,] "15.8% Greek_Kos + 84.2% Rus_Smolensk" "1.7811"
[53,] "20.5% Greek_Central + 79.5% Rus_Smolensk" "1.784"
[54,] "86.1% PL_Mazovia + 13.9% Turk_East_Black_Sea" "1.7893"
[55,] "28.3% MD_Gagauz + 71.7% Rus_Smolensk" "1.7967"
[56,] "30.4% Bulgarian_Central + 69.6% Rus_Smolensk" "1.7999"
[57,] "10.5% Georgian_Svan + 89.5% Ukrainian" "1.8069"
[58,] "21.6% Greek_Peloponnese + 78.4% Rus_Smolensk" "1.8082"
[59,] "13.4% Georgia_Jews + 86.6% PL_Mazovia" "1.8183"
[60,] "83.7% Belorussian + 16.3% Turk_East" "1.8207"
[61,] "85% PL_Mazovia + 15% Udi_Azerbaijan" "1.8306"
[62,] "50.5% Latvian + 49.5% MD_Gagauz" "1.8307"
[63,] "82% PL_Mazovia + 18% Turk_West_BlackSea" "1.8342"
[64,] "13.6% Mandean + 86.4% PL_Mazovia" "1.8383"
[65,] "20.3% Greek_Athens + 79.7% Rus_Smolensk" "1.8392"
[66,] "23.1% Greek_Thessaloniki + 76.9% Rus_Smolensk" "1.8425"
[67,] "14.8% Lebanese_Muslim + 85.2% PL_Mazovia" "1.8492"
[68,] "19% Greek_Izmir + 81% PL_Mazovia" "1.8508"
[69,] "84.7% PL_Mazovia + 15.3% Syrian_B" "1.8531"
[70,] "82.9% PL_Mazovia + 17.1% Turk_Central_West" "1.8552"
[71,] "85.1% Belorussian + 14.9% Turk_East_Black_Sea" "1.8554"
[72,] "13.1% Ossetian + 86.9% PL_GreaterPoland" "1.8587"
[73,] "54.4% Lithuanian + 45.6% MD_Gagauz" "1.8605"
[74,] "13.1% Circassian + 86.9% PL_GreaterPoland" "1.8634"
[75,] "10.6% Mountain_Jew_Chechnya + 89.4% Ukrainian" "1.8716"
[76,] "14% Balkar + 86% PL_GreaterPoland" "1.878"
[77,] "10.6% Assyrian_North + 89.4% Ukrainian" "1.8811"
[78,] "10.6% Assyrian_West + 89.4% Ukrainian" "1.8832"
[79,] "10.6% Georgian_Imereti + 89.4% PL_GreaterPoland" "1.8874"
[80,] "29.9% Greek_Macedonia + 70.1% Rus_Kostroma" "1.8952"
[81,] "14.9% Assyrian_West + 85.1% Belorussian" "1.8982"
[82,] "49.1% Greek_Macedonia + 50.9% Latvian" "1.9073"
[83,] "13.3% Cypriots + 86.7% Rus_Smolensk" "1.9109"
[84,] "85.2% PL_Mazovia + 14.8% Syrian_A" "1.9114"
[85,] "31.3% Bulgarian_West + 68.7% Rus_Smolensk" "1.9118"
[86,] "13.3% Kumyks + 86.7% PL_GreaterPoland" "1.9187"
[87,] "71% PL_Mazovia + 29% Turk_Deliorman" "1.9261"
[88,] "10.6% Azeri_Jew + 89.4% Ukrainian" "1.9288"
[89,] "10.6% Assyrian_South + 89.4% Ukrainian" "1.9312"
[90,] "30% Bulgarian_East + 70% Rus_Kostroma" "1.9358"
[91,] "11.3% Georgian_mixed + 88.7% PL_GreaterPoland" "1.9394"
[92,] "80.4% Belorussian + 19.6% Greek_Crete" "1.9432"
[93,] "39.4% Lithuanian + 60.6% MD_Center" "1.9505"
[94,] "14.8% Assyrian_North + 85.2% Belorussian" "1.9509"
[95,] "13.4% Hemshin + 86.6% PL_Mazovia" "1.9553"
[96,] "34.1% Pomak + 65.9% Rus_Kostroma" "1.9593"
[97,] "18.9% Italy_Apulia + 81.1% Rus_Smolensk" "1.9675"
[98,] "32.4% Bulgarian_Central + 67.6% Rus_Kostroma" "1.9694"
[99,] "22.9% Greek_Thrace + 77.1% Rus_Smolensk" "1.9733"
[100,] "75.2% Rus_Smolensk + 24.8% Turk_Makedonya" "1.9748"
[101,] "14.8% Assyrian_South + 85.2% Belorussian" "1.9773"
[102,] "81.7% Belorussian + 18.3% Greek_Kos" "1.9821"
[103,] "83% PL_Mazovia + 17% Turk_Anatolia" "1.9912"
[104,] "12.5% Circassian + 87.5% Ukrainian" "1.9958"
[105,] "85.2% Belorussian + 14.8% Mountain_Jew_Chechnya" "2.0008"
[106,] "49.2% Bulgarian_East + 50.8% Latvian" "2.0013"
[107,] "31.5% MD_South + 68.5% Rus_Smolensk" "2.0014"
[108,] "41.9% MD_Center + 58.1% Rus_Smolensk" "2.0057"
[109,] "79.7% Belorussian + 20.3% Greek_Izmir" "2.0059"
[110,] "83.9% PL_Mazovia + 16.1% Turk_Southeast" "2.0076"
[111,] "13.9% Lebanese_Christian + 86.1% PL_Mazovia" "2.0136"
[112,] "76.6% Belorussian + 23.4% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain" "2.0158"
[113,] "85.6% Belorussian + 14.4% Hemshin" "2.0196"
[114,] "12.6% Ossetian + 87.4% Ukrainian" "2.0197"
[115,] "14.4% Cypriots + 85.6% PL_Mazovia" "2.0199"
[116,] "26% Bulgarian_Thrace + 74% Rus_Kostroma" "2.0204"
[117,] "73.3% PL_Mazovia + 26.7% Turk_Makedonya" "2.0236"
[118,] "22% Greek_Central + 78% Rus_Kostroma" "2.0247"
[119,] "14.8% Azeri_Jew + 85.2% Belorussian" "2.037"
[120,] "33.3% Bulgarian_West + 66.7% Rus_Kostroma" "2.0489"





I can scan your matches if you give me your Gedmatch kit. Also can help if you know the village in Silistra.

Abriekman
10-22-2020, 04:42 PM
I don't think it possible to detect 1/8 ancestry for sure. You can model like 1/4 & 1/8 Bulgarian or Balkan Turk:



[1,] "10.5% Laz + 89.5% Ukrainian" "1.0715"
[2,] "10.5% Hemshin + 89.5% Ukrainian" "1.1052"
[3,] "10.7% Greek_Pontus + 89.3% Ukrainian" "1.1499"
[4,] "10.1% Georgian_Adjara + 89.9% Ukrainian" "1.1642"
[5,] "10.8% Turk_East_Black_Sea + 89.2% Ukrainian" "1.1879"
[6,] "15.2% Greek_Cappadocia + 84.8% PL_Mazovia" "1.1967"
[7,] "14% Armenian_West + 86% PL_Mazovia" "1.2161"
[8,] "10.2% Georgian_Turkey + 89.8% Ukrainian" "1.2463"
[9,] "11.1% Turk_Ahiska + 88.9% Ukrainian" "1.2758"
[10,] "83.7% Belorussian + 16.3% Greek_Cappadocia" "1.3455"
[11,] "11.2% Armenian_East + 88.8% Ukrainian" "1.3497"
[12,] "13.9% Assyrian_West + 86.1% PL_Mazovia" "1.3828"
[13,] "11% Georgian_mixed + 89% Ukrainian" "1.3909"
[14,] "10.3% Georgian_Imereti + 89.7% Ukrainian" "1.3927"
[15,] "13.8% Assyrian_North + 86.2% PL_Mazovia" "1.4423"
[16,] "13.8% Assyrian_South + 86.2% PL_Mazovia" "1.4499"
[17,] "14.5% Armenian_East + 85.5% PL_Mazovia" "1.488"
[18,] "13.8% Mountain_Jew_Chechnya + 86.2% PL_Mazovia" "1.5073"
[19,] "10.8% Armenian_West + 89.2% Ukrainian" "1.5157"
[20,] "14.6% Nusayri_Turkey + 85.4% PL_Mazovia" "1.5159"
[21,] "13.8% Azeri_Jew + 86.2% PL_Mazovia" "1.5217"
[22,] "84.8% PL_Mazovia + 15.2% Turk_East" "1.5401"
[23,] "10.6% Georgian_Gurian + 89.4% Ukrainian" "1.5423"
[24,] "15% Armenian_West + 85% Belorussian" "1.55"
[25,] "11.8% Turk_East + 88.2% Ukrainian" "1.5801"
[26,] "10.3% Georgian_Mingrelian + 89.7% Ukrainian" "1.5902"
[27,] "11.7% Udi_Azerbaijan + 88.3% Ukrainian" "1.5986"
[28,] "13.7% Greek_Pontus + 86.3% PL_Mazovia" "1.5999"
[29,] "11.7% Greek_Cappadocia + 88.3% Ukrainian" "1.6234"
[30,] "17.6% Greek_Izmir + 82.4% Rus_Smolensk" "1.6298"
[31,] "19.3% Greek_Foca + 80.7% Rus_Smolensk" "1.6366"
[32,] "85.3% Belorussian + 14.7% Greek_Pontus" "1.6694"
[33,] "18.3% Greek_Crete + 81.7% PL_Mazovia" "1.6937"
[34,] "10.3% Georgia_Jews + 89.7% Ukrainian" "1.6994"
[35,] "10.9% Georgian_Svan + 89.1% PL_GreaterPoland" "1.7005"
[36,] "11.5% Abkhazian + 88.5% PL_GreaterPoland" "1.711"
[37,] "11.1% Abkhazian + 88.9% Ukrainian" "1.7117"
[38,] "28.1% Bulgarian_East + 71.9% Rus_Smolensk" "1.7159"
[39,] "15.5% Armenian_East + 84.5% Belorussian" "1.7183"
[40,] "17.1% Greek_Kos + 82.9% PL_Mazovia" "1.7213"
[41,] "32.1% Pomak + 67.9% Rus_Smolensk" "1.7215"
[42,] "11% Georgian_Gurian + 89% PL_GreaterPoland" "1.7226"
[43,] "24.4% Bulgarian_Thrace + 75.6% Rus_Smolensk" "1.7287"
[44,] "13.6% Iraqi_Jew + 86.4% PL_Mazovia" "1.7292"
[45,] "28% Greek_Macedonia + 72% Rus_Smolensk" "1.7421"
[46,] "83.6% PL_Mazovia + 16.4% Turk_Central_East" "1.748"
[47,] "10.6% Georgian_Mingrelian + 89.4% PL_GreaterPoland" "1.7565"
[48,] "16.9% Greek_Crete + 83.1% Rus_Smolensk" "1.7661"
[49,] "13.7% Iranian_Jew + 86.3% PL_Mazovia" "1.7729"
[50,] "13.9% Greek_Cappadocia + 86.1% Rus_Smolensk" "1.7773"
[51,] "21.9% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain + 78.1% PL_Mazovia" "1.7789"
[52,] "15.8% Greek_Kos + 84.2% Rus_Smolensk" "1.7811"
[53,] "20.5% Greek_Central + 79.5% Rus_Smolensk" "1.784"
[54,] "86.1% PL_Mazovia + 13.9% Turk_East_Black_Sea" "1.7893"
[55,] "28.3% MD_Gagauz + 71.7% Rus_Smolensk" "1.7967"
[56,] "30.4% Bulgarian_Central + 69.6% Rus_Smolensk" "1.7999"
[57,] "10.5% Georgian_Svan + 89.5% Ukrainian" "1.8069"
[58,] "21.6% Greek_Peloponnese + 78.4% Rus_Smolensk" "1.8082"
[59,] "13.4% Georgia_Jews + 86.6% PL_Mazovia" "1.8183"
[60,] "83.7% Belorussian + 16.3% Turk_East" "1.8207"
[61,] "85% PL_Mazovia + 15% Udi_Azerbaijan" "1.8306"
[62,] "50.5% Latvian + 49.5% MD_Gagauz" "1.8307"
[63,] "82% PL_Mazovia + 18% Turk_West_BlackSea" "1.8342"
[64,] "13.6% Mandean + 86.4% PL_Mazovia" "1.8383"
[65,] "20.3% Greek_Athens + 79.7% Rus_Smolensk" "1.8392"
[66,] "23.1% Greek_Thessaloniki + 76.9% Rus_Smolensk" "1.8425"
[67,] "14.8% Lebanese_Muslim + 85.2% PL_Mazovia" "1.8492"
[68,] "19% Greek_Izmir + 81% PL_Mazovia" "1.8508"
[69,] "84.7% PL_Mazovia + 15.3% Syrian_B" "1.8531"
[70,] "82.9% PL_Mazovia + 17.1% Turk_Central_West" "1.8552"
[71,] "85.1% Belorussian + 14.9% Turk_East_Black_Sea" "1.8554"
[72,] "13.1% Ossetian + 86.9% PL_GreaterPoland" "1.8587"
[73,] "54.4% Lithuanian + 45.6% MD_Gagauz" "1.8605"
[74,] "13.1% Circassian + 86.9% PL_GreaterPoland" "1.8634"
[75,] "10.6% Mountain_Jew_Chechnya + 89.4% Ukrainian" "1.8716"
[76,] "14% Balkar + 86% PL_GreaterPoland" "1.878"
[77,] "10.6% Assyrian_North + 89.4% Ukrainian" "1.8811"
[78,] "10.6% Assyrian_West + 89.4% Ukrainian" "1.8832"
[79,] "10.6% Georgian_Imereti + 89.4% PL_GreaterPoland" "1.8874"
[80,] "29.9% Greek_Macedonia + 70.1% Rus_Kostroma" "1.8952"
[81,] "14.9% Assyrian_West + 85.1% Belorussian" "1.8982"
[82,] "49.1% Greek_Macedonia + 50.9% Latvian" "1.9073"
[83,] "13.3% Cypriots + 86.7% Rus_Smolensk" "1.9109"
[84,] "85.2% PL_Mazovia + 14.8% Syrian_A" "1.9114"
[85,] "31.3% Bulgarian_West + 68.7% Rus_Smolensk" "1.9118"
[86,] "13.3% Kumyks + 86.7% PL_GreaterPoland" "1.9187"
[87,] "71% PL_Mazovia + 29% Turk_Deliorman" "1.9261"
[88,] "10.6% Azeri_Jew + 89.4% Ukrainian" "1.9288"
[89,] "10.6% Assyrian_South + 89.4% Ukrainian" "1.9312"
[90,] "30% Bulgarian_East + 70% Rus_Kostroma" "1.9358"
[91,] "11.3% Georgian_mixed + 88.7% PL_GreaterPoland" "1.9394"
[92,] "80.4% Belorussian + 19.6% Greek_Crete" "1.9432"
[93,] "39.4% Lithuanian + 60.6% MD_Center" "1.9505"
[94,] "14.8% Assyrian_North + 85.2% Belorussian" "1.9509"
[95,] "13.4% Hemshin + 86.6% PL_Mazovia" "1.9553"
[96,] "34.1% Pomak + 65.9% Rus_Kostroma" "1.9593"
[97,] "18.9% Italy_Apulia + 81.1% Rus_Smolensk" "1.9675"
[98,] "32.4% Bulgarian_Central + 67.6% Rus_Kostroma" "1.9694"
[99,] "22.9% Greek_Thrace + 77.1% Rus_Smolensk" "1.9733"
[100,] "75.2% Rus_Smolensk + 24.8% Turk_Makedonya" "1.9748"
[101,] "14.8% Assyrian_South + 85.2% Belorussian" "1.9773"
[102,] "81.7% Belorussian + 18.3% Greek_Kos" "1.9821"
[103,] "83% PL_Mazovia + 17% Turk_Anatolia" "1.9912"
[104,] "12.5% Circassian + 87.5% Ukrainian" "1.9958"
[105,] "85.2% Belorussian + 14.8% Mountain_Jew_Chechnya" "2.0008"
[106,] "49.2% Bulgarian_East + 50.8% Latvian" "2.0013"
[107,] "31.5% MD_South + 68.5% Rus_Smolensk" "2.0014"
[108,] "41.9% MD_Center + 58.1% Rus_Smolensk" "2.0057"
[109,] "79.7% Belorussian + 20.3% Greek_Izmir" "2.0059"
[110,] "83.9% PL_Mazovia + 16.1% Turk_Southeast" "2.0076"
[111,] "13.9% Lebanese_Christian + 86.1% PL_Mazovia" "2.0136"
[112,] "76.6% Belorussian + 23.4% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain" "2.0158"
[113,] "85.6% Belorussian + 14.4% Hemshin" "2.0196"
[114,] "12.6% Ossetian + 87.4% Ukrainian" "2.0197"
[115,] "14.4% Cypriots + 85.6% PL_Mazovia" "2.0199"
[116,] "26% Bulgarian_Thrace + 74% Rus_Kostroma" "2.0204"
[117,] "73.3% PL_Mazovia + 26.7% Turk_Makedonya" "2.0236"
[118,] "22% Greek_Central + 78% Rus_Kostroma" "2.0247"
[119,] "14.8% Azeri_Jew + 85.2% Belorussian" "2.037"
[120,] "33.3% Bulgarian_West + 66.7% Rus_Kostroma" "2.0489"





I can scan your matches if you give me your Gedmatch kit. Also can help if you know the village in Silistra.

I am 7/8 1/8 split, so I should pay attention to only 87/13, I wrote my Gedmatch Kit number in private message

Kaspias
10-22-2020, 05:47 PM
I am 7/8 1/8 split, so I should pay attention to only 87/13, I wrote my Gedmatch Kit number in private message

I could not find a Balkan Turk match on your match list. In addition, I run 9 Turks from Silistra in one-to-one comparison yet found no match.

Abriekman
10-22-2020, 06:15 PM
I could not find a Balkan Turk match on your match list. In addition, I run 9 Turks from Silistra in one-to-one comparison yet found no match.

Thank you, so that southern shift is because of Sephardic heritage then

Leto
10-22-2020, 06:22 PM
Population
Gedrosia 5.64 Pct
Siberian 0.66 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 0.78 Pct
Atlantic_Med 21.98 Pct
North_European 49.98 Pct
South_Asian 0.49 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 2.98 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 17.49 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

I do not know if it is representative , even If I have it it is maximum 1/8

If I use vahaduo with Eastern European and Balkan Turk samples it is overestimating it if it is to 16%
Have you considered raw data conversion? Kaspias is present in this thread, he knows better.

Abriekman
10-22-2020, 06:25 PM
Have you considered raw data conversion? Kaspias is present in this thread, he knows better.

I do not understand what do you mean by raw data conversion.

Leto
10-22-2020, 06:25 PM
To be honest, I think you are just like user Polak looking for some more "diversity" in your blood line. Just be Polish, it's a nice homogeneous white country that hasn't abandoned its identity. Sephardic, Balkan Turkic, Kenyan, Cambodian... :rolleyes:

Abriekman
10-22-2020, 06:27 PM
To be honest, I think you are just like user Polak looking for some more "diversity" in your blood line. Just be Polish, it's a nice homogeneous white country that hasn't abandoned its identity. Sephardic, Balkan Turkic, Kenyan, Cambodian... :rolleyes:

WTF are you talking about? I already know my Polish ancestry and I learned it a long time ago, I am learning my minor ancestry now.

Leto
10-22-2020, 06:28 PM
I do not understand what do you mean by raw data conversion.
Are you tested with 23andme? Then you likely have the V5 chip. The number of SNPs with that type of data is much lower than it was before 2017. The more SNPs the better for Gedmatch (more accurate results).

Abriekman
10-22-2020, 06:29 PM
Are you tested with 23andme? Then you likely have the V5 chip. The number of SNPs with that type of data is much lower than it was before 2017. The more SNPs the better for Gedmatch (more accurate results).

I use AncestryDNA data for Gedmatch or Global25

Leto
10-22-2020, 06:31 PM
I use AncestryDNA data for Gedmatch or Global25
Then you don't need data conversion.

Abriekman
10-22-2020, 06:40 PM
To be honest, I think you are just like user Polak looking for some more "diversity" in your blood line. Just be Polish, it's a nice homogeneous white country that hasn't abandoned its identity. Sephardic, Balkan Turkic, Kenyan, Cambodian... :rolleyes:

And that I am mostly Polish genetically does not mean I should belong to Polish nation, I am proud of my Polish heritage, but Polish is not my first language, I was not born in Poland and my family does not have any culture. I also do not see in user Polak looking for "diversity in blood line". Minor ancestry is always more interesting, because you usually do not know much about it

Leto
10-22-2020, 07:00 PM
And that I am mostly Polish genetically does not mean I should belong to Polish nation, I am proud of my Polish heritage, but Polish is not my first language, I was not born in Poland and my family does not have any culture. I also do not see in user Polak looking for "diversity in blood line". Minor ancestry is always more interesting, because you usually do not know much about it
What is your language and where are you from? I thought you were born in Poland with distant foreign ancestry.

Abriekman
10-22-2020, 07:07 PM
What is your language and where are you from? I thought you were born in Poland with distant foreign ancestry.

my first language is Russian, ( I do not identify with Russian also, I do not have identity ) I moved from Ukraine to Poland when I was young and I should move to other country soon, but I do not identify myself with any culture, nobody of my recent ancestors have any religion, traditions or something like this

Leto
10-22-2020, 07:13 PM
my first language is Russian, ( I do not identify with Russian also, I do not have identity ) I moved from Ukraine to Poland when I was young and I should move to other country soon, but I do not identify myself with any culture, nobody of my recent ancestors have any religion, traditions or something like this
Well, that's a rather sad existence if you ask me.
I won't be spamming your threads anymore.

Abriekman
10-22-2020, 07:18 PM
Well, that's a rather sad existence if you ask me.
I won't be spamming your threads anymore.

Interesting, how is culture and traditions related to "sad existence"

and it will be very interesting to see if your ancestors would assimilated in USSR and other people hated you just because they are not ethnicity from soviet republics

Leto
10-22-2020, 07:23 PM
Interesting, how is culture and traditions related to "sad existence"

and it will be very interesting to see if your ancestors would assimilated in USSR and other people hated you just because they are not ethnicity from soviet republics
You said you have no culture, traditions and religion and I being a national conservative and (Orthodox) Christian won't lie to you saying it's fine. To me it's a bad thing. I'm not going to engage in a debate or argument with you. I have my own beliefs which are pretty strong and sometimes I let other people know about them.

By the way, I have Polish ancestry from Belarus, at least 1/8. Grandfather was of Roman Catholic background (never went to church being a communist and military officer).

Abriekman
10-22-2020, 07:30 PM
You said you have no culture, traditions and religion and I being a national conservative and (Orthodox) Christian won't lie to you saying it's fine. To me it's a bad thing. I'm not going to engage in a debate or argument with you. I have my own beliefs which are pretty strong and sometimes I let other people know about them.

By the way, I have Polish ancestry from Belarus, at least 1/8. Grandfather was of Roman Catholic background (never went to church being a communist and military officer).

Now say your grandfather and your parent, that your great grandparent had sad existance

Leto
10-22-2020, 07:35 PM
Now say your grandfather and your parent, that your great grandparent had sad existance
My family is not a bunch of rootless cosmopolitans. You got me wrong. Being mixed to some extent is one thing, lacking any culture and identity is another thing. But you aren't even a mix of vastly different things like a goddamn mulatto or something. Though even a mulatto can be a decent individual of course.

Leto
10-22-2020, 07:36 PM
Dude, please stop engaging me in a further debate. I don't feel like continuing.

Abriekman
10-22-2020, 07:44 PM
Dude, please stop engaging me in a further debate. I don't feel like continuing.

Well, you started it. You are just "racist" towards cosmopolitans

Leto
10-22-2020, 07:53 PM
Well, you started it. You are just "racist" towards cosmopolitans
Nah, just find your place in the world, son. Wish you well ;)

Abriekman
10-22-2020, 07:59 PM
Nah, just find your place in the world, son. Wish you well ;)

You too, daddy

Abriekman
10-22-2020, 10:22 PM
I could not find a Balkan Turk match on your match list. In addition, I run 9 Turks from Silistra in one-to-one comparison yet found no match.

Do you have Bulgarian Silistra samples? If yes could you please compare mine Gedmatch to them

Chris596
10-22-2020, 10:41 PM
That is quite a high distance in my opinion. For example, I can model myself like this and even with 0.25x the distance stays under 2 :

Target: Chris
Distance: 1.7939% / 1.79388025 | ADC: 0.25x
66.2 Serb_Croatia_Kordun&Banija
13.8 Croat_Croatia_Slavonia
9.2 Turk_Razgrad
6.2 Turk_Kardzhali-Alevi
4.0 Ukrainian_Belgorod
0.6 She

As you can see, most of the time I can be modeled as 5-10% Turkish or something similar (G25, Admixture Studio, Vahaduo, etc). But I don't have Balkan Turk ancestry, at least I don't know about it... Some people told me that I may have some Ottoman ancestry, my high Balkan ancestry is also indicative of it, so I'm not sure. But you certainly could have some West Asian or something similar in you.

Vishap
10-22-2020, 11:04 PM
I don't know about the other ones but Bulgarian Turks are basically half West Asian, half Baltic.

Kaspias
10-22-2020, 11:10 PM
Do you have Bulgarian Silistra samples? If yes could you please compare mine Gedmatch to them

I have only 2 from Silistra, no matches.

You have several Bulgarian matches from Vratsa and Tarnovo.

Abriekman
10-23-2020, 07:24 AM
That is quite a high distance in my opinion. For example, I can model myself like this and even with 0.25x the distance stays under 2 :

Target: Chris
Distance: 1.7939% / 1.79388025 | ADC: 0.25x
66.2 Serb_Croatia_Kordun&Banija
13.8 Croat_Croatia_Slavonia
9.2 Turk_Razgrad
6.2 Turk_Kardzhali-Alevi
4.0 Ukrainian_Belgorod
0.6 She

As you can see, most of the time I can be modeled as 5-10% Turkish or something similar (G25, Admixture Studio, Vahaduo, etc). But I don't have Balkan Turk ancestry, at least I don't know about it... Some people told me that I may have some Ottoman ancestry, my high Balkan ancestry is also indicative of it, so I'm not sure. But you certainly could have some West Asian or something similar in you.

I know I have West Asian/Middle Eastern on absolutely all tests I done, maybe if i had this ancestry I would score more Anatolian or something Turkic-like, I started this thread, because 23andme gave me Anatolian staying on 90% confidence, but If i do not have Turkish matches, that means it is part of Sephardic ancestry most likely

Abriekman
10-23-2020, 06:19 PM
I don't think it possible to detect 1/8 ancestry for sure. You can model like 1/4 & 1/8 Bulgarian or Balkan Turk:



[1,] "10.5% Laz + 89.5% Ukrainian" "1.0715"
[2,] "10.5% Hemshin + 89.5% Ukrainian" "1.1052"
[3,] "10.7% Greek_Pontus + 89.3% Ukrainian" "1.1499"
[4,] "10.1% Georgian_Adjara + 89.9% Ukrainian" "1.1642"
[5,] "10.8% Turk_East_Black_Sea + 89.2% Ukrainian" "1.1879"
[6,] "15.2% Greek_Cappadocia + 84.8% PL_Mazovia" "1.1967"
[7,] "14% Armenian_West + 86% PL_Mazovia" "1.2161"
[8,] "10.2% Georgian_Turkey + 89.8% Ukrainian" "1.2463"
[9,] "11.1% Turk_Ahiska + 88.9% Ukrainian" "1.2758"
[10,] "83.7% Belorussian + 16.3% Greek_Cappadocia" "1.3455"
[11,] "11.2% Armenian_East + 88.8% Ukrainian" "1.3497"
[12,] "13.9% Assyrian_West + 86.1% PL_Mazovia" "1.3828"
[13,] "11% Georgian_mixed + 89% Ukrainian" "1.3909"
[14,] "10.3% Georgian_Imereti + 89.7% Ukrainian" "1.3927"
[15,] "13.8% Assyrian_North + 86.2% PL_Mazovia" "1.4423"
[16,] "13.8% Assyrian_South + 86.2% PL_Mazovia" "1.4499"
[17,] "14.5% Armenian_East + 85.5% PL_Mazovia" "1.488"
[18,] "13.8% Mountain_Jew_Chechnya + 86.2% PL_Mazovia" "1.5073"
[19,] "10.8% Armenian_West + 89.2% Ukrainian" "1.5157"
[20,] "14.6% Nusayri_Turkey + 85.4% PL_Mazovia" "1.5159"
[21,] "13.8% Azeri_Jew + 86.2% PL_Mazovia" "1.5217"
[22,] "84.8% PL_Mazovia + 15.2% Turk_East" "1.5401"
[23,] "10.6% Georgian_Gurian + 89.4% Ukrainian" "1.5423"
[24,] "15% Armenian_West + 85% Belorussian" "1.55"
[25,] "11.8% Turk_East + 88.2% Ukrainian" "1.5801"
[26,] "10.3% Georgian_Mingrelian + 89.7% Ukrainian" "1.5902"
[27,] "11.7% Udi_Azerbaijan + 88.3% Ukrainian" "1.5986"
[28,] "13.7% Greek_Pontus + 86.3% PL_Mazovia" "1.5999"
[29,] "11.7% Greek_Cappadocia + 88.3% Ukrainian" "1.6234"
[30,] "17.6% Greek_Izmir + 82.4% Rus_Smolensk" "1.6298"
[31,] "19.3% Greek_Foca + 80.7% Rus_Smolensk" "1.6366"
[32,] "85.3% Belorussian + 14.7% Greek_Pontus" "1.6694"
[33,] "18.3% Greek_Crete + 81.7% PL_Mazovia" "1.6937"
[34,] "10.3% Georgia_Jews + 89.7% Ukrainian" "1.6994"
[35,] "10.9% Georgian_Svan + 89.1% PL_GreaterPoland" "1.7005"
[36,] "11.5% Abkhazian + 88.5% PL_GreaterPoland" "1.711"
[37,] "11.1% Abkhazian + 88.9% Ukrainian" "1.7117"
[38,] "28.1% Bulgarian_East + 71.9% Rus_Smolensk" "1.7159"
[39,] "15.5% Armenian_East + 84.5% Belorussian" "1.7183"
[40,] "17.1% Greek_Kos + 82.9% PL_Mazovia" "1.7213"
[41,] "32.1% Pomak + 67.9% Rus_Smolensk" "1.7215"
[42,] "11% Georgian_Gurian + 89% PL_GreaterPoland" "1.7226"
[43,] "24.4% Bulgarian_Thrace + 75.6% Rus_Smolensk" "1.7287"
[44,] "13.6% Iraqi_Jew + 86.4% PL_Mazovia" "1.7292"
[45,] "28% Greek_Macedonia + 72% Rus_Smolensk" "1.7421"
[46,] "83.6% PL_Mazovia + 16.4% Turk_Central_East" "1.748"
[47,] "10.6% Georgian_Mingrelian + 89.4% PL_GreaterPoland" "1.7565"
[48,] "16.9% Greek_Crete + 83.1% Rus_Smolensk" "1.7661"
[49,] "13.7% Iranian_Jew + 86.3% PL_Mazovia" "1.7729"
[50,] "13.9% Greek_Cappadocia + 86.1% Rus_Smolensk" "1.7773"
[51,] "21.9% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain + 78.1% PL_Mazovia" "1.7789"
[52,] "15.8% Greek_Kos + 84.2% Rus_Smolensk" "1.7811"
[53,] "20.5% Greek_Central + 79.5% Rus_Smolensk" "1.784"
[54,] "86.1% PL_Mazovia + 13.9% Turk_East_Black_Sea" "1.7893"
[55,] "28.3% MD_Gagauz + 71.7% Rus_Smolensk" "1.7967"
[56,] "30.4% Bulgarian_Central + 69.6% Rus_Smolensk" "1.7999"
[57,] "10.5% Georgian_Svan + 89.5% Ukrainian" "1.8069"
[58,] "21.6% Greek_Peloponnese + 78.4% Rus_Smolensk" "1.8082"
[59,] "13.4% Georgia_Jews + 86.6% PL_Mazovia" "1.8183"
[60,] "83.7% Belorussian + 16.3% Turk_East" "1.8207"
[61,] "85% PL_Mazovia + 15% Udi_Azerbaijan" "1.8306"
[62,] "50.5% Latvian + 49.5% MD_Gagauz" "1.8307"
[63,] "82% PL_Mazovia + 18% Turk_West_BlackSea" "1.8342"
[64,] "13.6% Mandean + 86.4% PL_Mazovia" "1.8383"
[65,] "20.3% Greek_Athens + 79.7% Rus_Smolensk" "1.8392"
[66,] "23.1% Greek_Thessaloniki + 76.9% Rus_Smolensk" "1.8425"
[67,] "14.8% Lebanese_Muslim + 85.2% PL_Mazovia" "1.8492"
[68,] "19% Greek_Izmir + 81% PL_Mazovia" "1.8508"
[69,] "84.7% PL_Mazovia + 15.3% Syrian_B" "1.8531"
[70,] "82.9% PL_Mazovia + 17.1% Turk_Central_West" "1.8552"
[71,] "85.1% Belorussian + 14.9% Turk_East_Black_Sea" "1.8554"
[72,] "13.1% Ossetian + 86.9% PL_GreaterPoland" "1.8587"
[73,] "54.4% Lithuanian + 45.6% MD_Gagauz" "1.8605"
[74,] "13.1% Circassian + 86.9% PL_GreaterPoland" "1.8634"
[75,] "10.6% Mountain_Jew_Chechnya + 89.4% Ukrainian" "1.8716"
[76,] "14% Balkar + 86% PL_GreaterPoland" "1.878"
[77,] "10.6% Assyrian_North + 89.4% Ukrainian" "1.8811"
[78,] "10.6% Assyrian_West + 89.4% Ukrainian" "1.8832"
[79,] "10.6% Georgian_Imereti + 89.4% PL_GreaterPoland" "1.8874"
[80,] "29.9% Greek_Macedonia + 70.1% Rus_Kostroma" "1.8952"
[81,] "14.9% Assyrian_West + 85.1% Belorussian" "1.8982"
[82,] "49.1% Greek_Macedonia + 50.9% Latvian" "1.9073"
[83,] "13.3% Cypriots + 86.7% Rus_Smolensk" "1.9109"
[84,] "85.2% PL_Mazovia + 14.8% Syrian_A" "1.9114"
[85,] "31.3% Bulgarian_West + 68.7% Rus_Smolensk" "1.9118"
[86,] "13.3% Kumyks + 86.7% PL_GreaterPoland" "1.9187"
[87,] "71% PL_Mazovia + 29% Turk_Deliorman" "1.9261"
[88,] "10.6% Azeri_Jew + 89.4% Ukrainian" "1.9288"
[89,] "10.6% Assyrian_South + 89.4% Ukrainian" "1.9312"
[90,] "30% Bulgarian_East + 70% Rus_Kostroma" "1.9358"
[91,] "11.3% Georgian_mixed + 88.7% PL_GreaterPoland" "1.9394"
[92,] "80.4% Belorussian + 19.6% Greek_Crete" "1.9432"
[93,] "39.4% Lithuanian + 60.6% MD_Center" "1.9505"
[94,] "14.8% Assyrian_North + 85.2% Belorussian" "1.9509"
[95,] "13.4% Hemshin + 86.6% PL_Mazovia" "1.9553"
[96,] "34.1% Pomak + 65.9% Rus_Kostroma" "1.9593"
[97,] "18.9% Italy_Apulia + 81.1% Rus_Smolensk" "1.9675"
[98,] "32.4% Bulgarian_Central + 67.6% Rus_Kostroma" "1.9694"
[99,] "22.9% Greek_Thrace + 77.1% Rus_Smolensk" "1.9733"
[100,] "75.2% Rus_Smolensk + 24.8% Turk_Makedonya" "1.9748"
[101,] "14.8% Assyrian_South + 85.2% Belorussian" "1.9773"
[102,] "81.7% Belorussian + 18.3% Greek_Kos" "1.9821"
[103,] "83% PL_Mazovia + 17% Turk_Anatolia" "1.9912"
[104,] "12.5% Circassian + 87.5% Ukrainian" "1.9958"
[105,] "85.2% Belorussian + 14.8% Mountain_Jew_Chechnya" "2.0008"
[106,] "49.2% Bulgarian_East + 50.8% Latvian" "2.0013"
[107,] "31.5% MD_South + 68.5% Rus_Smolensk" "2.0014"
[108,] "41.9% MD_Center + 58.1% Rus_Smolensk" "2.0057"
[109,] "79.7% Belorussian + 20.3% Greek_Izmir" "2.0059"
[110,] "83.9% PL_Mazovia + 16.1% Turk_Southeast" "2.0076"
[111,] "13.9% Lebanese_Christian + 86.1% PL_Mazovia" "2.0136"
[112,] "76.6% Belorussian + 23.4% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain" "2.0158"
[113,] "85.6% Belorussian + 14.4% Hemshin" "2.0196"
[114,] "12.6% Ossetian + 87.4% Ukrainian" "2.0197"
[115,] "14.4% Cypriots + 85.6% PL_Mazovia" "2.0199"
[116,] "26% Bulgarian_Thrace + 74% Rus_Kostroma" "2.0204"
[117,] "73.3% PL_Mazovia + 26.7% Turk_Makedonya" "2.0236"
[118,] "22% Greek_Central + 78% Rus_Kostroma" "2.0247"
[119,] "14.8% Azeri_Jew + 85.2% Belorussian" "2.037"
[120,] "33.3% Bulgarian_West + 66.7% Rus_Kostroma" "2.0489"





I can scan your matches if you give me your Gedmatch kit. Also can help if you know the village in Silistra.

What program or website did you use here in code? I saw someone can split his ancestry like 2/8 and 6/8 on program like this

Dirdepo
10-23-2020, 11:06 PM
Use this, Unscaled



RUS_Ingria_IA:VIII5_2,0.0115,0.0111,0.0277,0.0311, 0.0165,0.0169,0.0062,0.0107,0.0032,-0.0279,0.0005,-0.0111,0.0221,0.039,-0.0111,-0.0091,-0.0054,-0.0013,0.0013,0.0022,-0.01,-0.0044,0.0098,-0.0072,0.0002
Baltic_EST_BA:s19_V14_2,0.0125,0.0125,0.0288,0.038 4,0.0181,0.0184,0.004,0.0117,-0.0047,-0.0299,0.0024,-0.0142,0.0287,0.0271,-0.0194,-0.0015,0.0069,0.0039,0.0018,0.0068,-0.0014,-0.0008,0.0061,-0.0186,0.0034
SWE_IA,0.0108,0.0122,0.0178,0.0181,0.0134,0.0072,0 .0025,0.0033,0.0014,-0.0053,0.0023,0.0013,-0.0047,0.0028,0.015,-0.0051,-0.0118,0.0051,0.0075,2e-04,2e-04,0.0023,0.002,0.0095,3e-04
Gepidian_SRB_ACD,0.0081,5e-04,0.0104,9e-04,0.0031,-6e-04,0.0022,0.0036,0.0031,0.0059,-0.009,-1e-04,-0.003,-0.0078,0.0019,-0.0047,-0.0025,0.0041,0.0063,-0.0015,-0.0034,0.0131,0.0047,0.005,-0.0021
Ostrogothic_Crimea_ACD,0.0092,0.0124,-0.0028,-0.0108,-0.0028,-0.0061,-0.0011,-0.002,-0.0113,-4e-04,0.0032,-0.0025,-0.0044,0.0019,-0.0015,-0.0044,8e-04,-0.009,-0.0046,0.0039,0.005,0.0097,0.0048,0.0067,-0.0037
Mongolian,0.00454,-0.03228,0.01694,-0.00822,-0.01492,-0.01066,0.00606,0.0077,-0.00046,0.00492,-0.01978,-0.00208,-0.00022,-0.00054,0.0024,0.00052,-0.0026,8e-05,0.00336,0.00722,-0.01726,-0.00774,-0.0151,0.00022,0.00062
Tatar_Lipka,0.0091167,-0.0024333,0.0124333,0.00685,-0.001,0.0017,0.0039167,0.0036833,-0.0049333,-0.0077667,-0.0052167,-0.0033667,0.0049667,0.007,-0.00195,-0.0055833,-0.0046667,-0.0005833,0.0011167,0.0001167,-0.0054333,-0.0022333,-0.0008167,-0.0017667,0.0014667
Tabasaran,0.0097923,0.0103385,-0.0064,0.0022,-0.0127,0.0036462,0.0031692,-0.0023,-0.0274538,-0.0188846,-0.0008923,0.0025923,-0.0065538,-0.0069923,0.0109846,0.0008846,0.0012846,-0.0016231,-0.0025385,0.0043769,-0.0014846,0.0002154,0.0039231,0.0077615,-0.0028538
Avar,0.0100455,0.0102818,-0.0061636,0.0037727,-0.0134909,0.0043909,0.0039091,-0.0016455,-0.0281273,-0.0222455,0.0005727,0.0035,-0.0071545,-0.0052364,0.0111727,-0.0017818,-0.0007818,-0.0010273,-0.0054818,0.0030818,-0.0003091,0.0009818,0.0035091,0.0081818,-0.0016818
Circassian,0.0096111,0.0083333,-0.0061111,-0.0057111,-0.0106778,-1.11e-05,0.0029667,-8e-04,-0.0242,-0.0132111,-0.0011556,0.0042667,-0.0096778,0.0020667,0.0015556,-0.0122111,0.0031111,-0.0036444,-0.0072,0.0121,0.0041778,0.0013556,0.0002444,-0.0074556,-0.0011556
Armenian,0.0090375,0.0135875,-0.0154125,-0.0188375,-0.009325,-0.0057,0.001975,-0.002475,-0.0148875,-0.0024125,8e-04,-0.00015,-0.0020375,0.0018,-0.0034,-0.0011,0.0003125,0.00065,0.00205,-0.0022375,0.000125,0.0020125,-0.001825,-0.0018125,-1.25e-05
Georgian_Laz,0.00954,0.01348,-0.01438,-0.01748,-0.00996,-0.00306,0.0038,-0.00204,-0.02422,-0.00712,0.00178,0.00666,-0.0121,0.00298,-0.00298,-0.01264,0.00974,-0.00272,-0.00238,0.00836,0.0051,0.00164,-0.00112,-0.0072,-0.00092
Georgian_Imer,0.0095,0.01312,-0.01644,-0.01424,-0.01246,-0.0032,0.00484,-0.00246,-0.03128,-0.00962,-0.00028,0.0087,-0.01692,0.00526,0.00138,-0.018,0.00542,-0.00348,-0.00756,0.01224,0.00922,0.0011,2e-05,-0.00588,-0.0015
Turkish_Adana,0.0084833,0.0092,-0.0089167,-0.0118667,-0.0091167,-0.0052167,0.0021,-0.0012333,-0.00865,-0.0014333,-6e-04,0.0013833,0.0005833,-0.00015,-0.00205,0.00025,0.00215,5e-04,0.0019167,-0.0040333,-0.0016667,-0.0010333,-0.0014,-0.0029333,0.00045
Turkish_Aydin,0.0083286,0.0060143,-0.0032857,-0.0111714,-0.0064429,-0.0051429,0.0014714,-4e-04,-0.0083143,-0.0009286,-0.0009429,-0.0001571,-0.0030286,0.0036286,-0.0043571,0.0011143,0.0022571,0.0003571,0.001,-0.0011429,-0.0027571,-0.0022429,-0.0030286,-0.0007429,-0.0013
Turkish_Balikesir,0.0086667,0.0058833,-0.00265,-0.0082667,-0.0059167,-0.0049167,0.0028333,0.0020167,-0.0076333,0.0020167,-3e-04,0.0025167,-0.0022167,0.00135,0.0009667,-0.0011,-0.0009833,0.00115,0.0028833,-0.0015667,-0.0043667,0.0007167,-0.00085,0.0007833,-0.0001667
Turkish_Balkans,0.00977,0.00985,0.00443,-0.00084,0.0027,-2e-04,0.00178,0.00204,-0.00275,2e-05,-0.00087,-0.00153,0.00157,0.00395,-0.00702,4e-04,0.004,0.00033,0.00287,-0.00111,-0.00587,0.00025,-0.00025,0.00186,0.00029
Turkish_Central,0.0085462,0.0082846,-0.0081077,-0.0125462,-0.0074231,-0.0047846,0.0014923,-0.0008462,-0.0103,-0.0011923,-0.0001846,0.0018615,-0.0024692,0.0006923,-0.0041692,-0.0011692,5e-04,0.0008769,0.0008462,-0.0014385,-0.0010769,0.0015231,-0.0014769,-0.0003846,0.0003692
Turkish_Istanbul,0.00923,0.00951,-0.00525,-0.00778,-0.00399,-0.00237,0.00182,-0.00015,-0.00761,0.00019,0.00063,0.00226,-0.00248,8e-04,-0.0045,-0.00117,0.00322,0.00161,0.00337,-0.00073,-0.00127,-7e-05,0.00075,-0.00054,0.00066
Turkish_Kayseri,0.00876,0.00961,-0.00905,-0.0142,-0.00787,-0.00437,0.00133,-0.00044,-0.0114,-0.00015,-0.00044,0.00025,-0.00084,0.00221,-0.00261,-7e-05,0.00058,0.00068,0.00159,-0.00276,-0.00144,0.00093,-0.00212,-0.00242,-0.00046
Turkish_North,0.00886,0.00552,-0.00588,-0.01058,-0.00884,-0.00424,0.00318,-0.00016,-0.01112,-0.0013,-0.00186,0.0024,-0.00444,0.00304,-0.00566,-0.00366,0.00024,0.00098,0.00106,-0.00322,-0.00522,0.0026,-0.00218,5e-04,-0.00192
Turkish_Northwest,0.00875,0.0063,-0.0036667,-0.00885,-0.00605,-0.0045,0.0022,-0.0003667,-0.00845,-0.0006167,-0.0014833,0.0011667,-0.00245,0.00145,-0.00235,0.00025,0.0062,-0.00065,-0.0004833,0.0010167,-0.0036833,6e-04,-0.0010667,0.0003667,0.0006667
Turkish_South,0.00826,0.0049,-0.0055,-0.01004,-0.00954,-0.00386,0.00342,-6e-05,-0.01014,-0.00158,-0.0011,1e-04,-0.00218,-0.00196,-0.00068,0.0032,0.00482,0.00096,-0.00036,-0.00018,-0.00246,0.00176,-0.00418,0.0036,0.00332
Turkish_Southwest,0.0083818,0.0057636,-0.0047182,-0.0096727,-0.0072545,-0.0041727,0.0022909,0.0002636,-0.0072909,0.0010182,-0.0007091,0.0004909,-0.002,-0.0007636,-0.0035909,0.0059273,0.0078364,0.0005909,0.0004636,-0.0003182,-0.0032182,-0.0017364,-0.0027545,0.0005818,-0.0015273
Greek_Trabzon,0.00956,0.01374,-0.01437,-0.01897,-0.00818,-0.00636,0.0031,-0.00204,-0.01857,-0.00193,0.00182,0.00407,-0.00968,0.00556,-0.00618,-0.00937,0.00505,-0.00092,-0.00083,0.00189,0.00326,0.00113,-0.00198,-0.00213,-0.00112
Turkish_Trabzon,0.0096,0.0137,-0.01432,-0.01884,-0.00788,-0.00594,0.00212,-0.00322,-0.01774,0.00024,0.00198,0.00442,-0.00584,0.00392,-0.0076,-0.00674,0.00642,4e-04,8e-04,0.00152,0.00506,-5e-04,0.00134,-0.00342,-6e-04
Roma_Balkans,0.008,0.0062667,-0.0156,0.0077333,-0.0061,0.0047,0.0001667,0.0011,0.0081667,0.0081667 ,0.0002333,-0.0002333,0.0006333,0.0063667,-0.0077667,-0.0039333,0.0068,0.0024667,0.0012,8e-04,-0.0016667,1e-04,-0.0005333,-0.0033333,-0.0010667
Bulgarian,0.01096,0.01328,0.0068,0.00166,0.008,-3e-04,0.00234,0.00132,-0.00014,0.00384,-0.00206,6e-04,0.00142,0.00628,-0.01054,-0.00168,0.00544,0.00158,0.0025,-0.00296,-0.0037,-0.00044,0.00228,-0.00206,-9e-04
Gagauz,0.0106889,0.0132333,0.0053111,-9e-04,0.0063556,0.0004778,0.0029222,0.0020333,-0.0017778,0.0019889,-0.0010111,-0.0013889,-0.0009889,0.0073556,-0.0077,-0.0035778,0.0026333,-0.0002111,0.0028667,-0.0023222,-0.0052,-0.0007556,0.0029889,-0.0040889,5.56e-05

Dirdepo
10-23-2020, 11:06 PM
Target: Dirdepo
Distance: 2.0435% / 0.02043461 | ADC: 0.25x RC
41.2 Turkish_Balkans
39.8 Baltic_EST_BA
19.0 Bulgarian

Target: Dirdepo
Distance: 2.0374% / 0.02037397
40.4 Baltic_EST_BA
26.8 Bulgarian
20.2 Turkish_Balkans
12.6 Turkish_Southwest

Abriekman
10-23-2020, 11:12 PM
Target: Abriekman
Distance: 1.4805% / 0.01480537
53.0 Turkish_Balkans
36.6 Baltic_EST_BA
8.0 Bulgarian
2.4 SWE_IA


With added Polish sample

Target: Abriekman
Distance: 1.2354% / 0.01235369
70.6 Polish
12.6 Baltic_EST_BA
10.0 Turkish_Southwest
6.8 Armenian

Chris596
10-23-2020, 11:14 PM
Use this, Unscaled
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You should create a thread about this model, works very well for me, good distance too! (I told you I'm not Germanic) :

Target: Chris
Distance: 1.1967% / 0.01196728 | ADC: 0.25x RC
52.8 Bulgarian
30.4 Gagauz
12.8 Baltic_EST_BA
4.0 Circassian

Dirdepo
10-23-2020, 11:16 PM
You should create a thread about this model, works very well for me, good distance too! (I told you I'm not Germanic) :

Target: Chris
Distance: 1.1967% / 0.01196728 | ADC: 0.25x RC
52.8 Bulgarian
30.4 Gagauz
12.8 Baltic_EST_BA
4.0 Circassian

If you want start a new thread for it, no problem