Spain is worried about the development of Morocco's army

[Hamilcar]

Several official Spanish sources are said to indicate that Morocco is preparing to place a historic order for 5th generation F35 fighter jets, following the historic military agreement between the United States and Morocco.

https://i.imgur.com/h7QhLC5.jpg


"Spain, for its part, is concerned about Morocco's acquisition of 36 Apache AH-64 helicopters and more than 200 M1 Abrams battle tanks. Indeed, Morocco now has the opportunity to acquire the best and most expensive F35 aircraft, which few countries in the world have access to. "

https://i.imgur.com/p7yBuUQ.jpg https://i.imgur.com/B6IoTpz.jpg?1

"One of Madrid's fears is the possibility that Morocco will also join 'the club of arms-producing countries.' This would pose a threat to their strategic and vital interests in the Mediterranean and the Atlantic."

and indeed that's what Morocco plans to do :


"Morocco is planning a shift toward military industrialization in order to develop its own defense industry, maintain the existing military equipment, and potentially reduce arms importation."

"King Mohammed VI called for Morocco’s transition to military industrialization during his speech for the 63rd anniversary of FAR’s founding. The King outlined the country’s need for a transition to military industrialization, scientific research, and the self-development of military industries."

"The move is part of Morocco’s five-year plan, established in 2017, to reach “regional supremacy” through modernizing the military equipment of its army, airforce, and navy. "

https://www.moroccoworldnews.com/2019/11/287218/morocco-to-shift-toward-military-industrialization-seek-regional-supremacy/


"The Mohammed VI-B satellite’s imaging capabilities are secret, but it carries an optical camera and image transmission system provided by Thales Alenia Space, which served as prime contractor for the mission under an agreement with the Moroccan government. Airbus Defense and Space provided the satellite bus, which was assembled in Toulouse, France.

The Moroccan government ordered the two high-resolution Earth observation satellites — named Mohammed VI-A and VI-B — from French industry in 2013 after an intergovernmental agreement between Morocco and France.

Developed in secrecy, Mohammed VI-B is the second of the two satellites to launch. The Vega rocket deployed the satellite in a sun-synchronous north-south orbit, where it will joined its predecessor Mohammmd VI-A.

With two satellites, the Moroccan government can collect imagery of the same location with higher frequency. The Mohammed VI-A and VI-B satellites are the most capable optical surveillance satellites owned by any African nation."

"Official press releases on the Moroccan reconnaissance satellite program say the spacecraft will be “mostly used for mapping and land surveying activities, regional development, agricultural monitoring, the prevention and management of natural disasters, monitoring changes in the environment and desertification, as well as border and coastal surveillance.”

But a report published last November by the French newspaper Le Monde suggested the satellites have a strong military purpose."

“We know that Morocco is at odds with Spain and Algeria regarding certain issues and that the situation is tense at the border with Mauritania. Both these satellites will give Morocco the means to gather intelligence and an independence that no one else has in the region,” said Florence Gaillard-Sborowsky, researcher at France’s Strategic Research Foundation and an expert in space issues in the Arab region, according to Le Monde.

https://i.imgur.com/IJTSMD9.jpg


"This agreement signed on October 2, during the visit of the head of the Pentagon, Mark Esper, to Rabat, won the Royal Armed Forces (FAR), among others, the modernization of their fleet of F-16, the fighter jet that has undergone a series of technical and technological changes, as well as that of the 6×6 Cougars armored tanks and the MIM-104 Patriot long-range surface-to-air missile system, El Espanol newspaper reported, continuing that a The $ 768 million contract to be completed in February 2023, as announced by the Pentagon, lists Morocco among 22 countries to acquire advanced medium-range air-to-air missiles (AMRAAMs)."

"For the Spanish military leaders, it is important that their country equips itself with F-35s before 2030, continues the same source, indicating that with this transfer of technology, Madrid fears a real threat to its strategic and vital interests in the Mediterranean and in Atlantic."



What the favorite party of cristiano viejo has to say about it :rolleyes: :


"It is “imperative” that Spain maintains its military superiority in the Western Mediterranean, Vox argued."

"Vox argued that Morocco has “considerably” increased its military capacities.

With nearly 200,000 soldiers and a 50% increase in defense spending over the past decade, Morocco’s army is “among the most numerous and modern in Africa.”

The 2020 Finance Bill in Morocco increased the budget for national defense by nearly 30%, from MAD 35.155 billion ($3.75 billion) to MAD 45.438 billion ($4.84 billion).

The decision is within the framework of Morocco’s approach to continue to reinforce its military personnel and equipment." https://www.moroccoworldnews.com/2020/08/313865/vox-spain-must-increase-defense-spending-amid-moroccos-military-gains/


"Passage of the FREMM Mohammed VI of the Royal Moroccan Navy, Atlantic Ocean. This warship is the most powerful ship in Africa, along with the Egyptian frigate Tahya Massr, which is of the same class.
In terms of armament, it carries torpedoes and missiles. In terms of electronics, this FREMM has been equipped with several devices at the cutting edge of technology. Moreover, this is what is interesting in the armament held by the Moroccan army, Morocco has state-of-the-art equipment which is not within the reach of everyone, due to authorizations and alliances. Morocco never communicates on its weapons and it is quite discreet. But the country has, for example, a Reaper drone, but also a Predator drone, drones used mainly by certain powers, including the USA and France. Recently, Morocco acquired new tanks, also acquired Apache-type combat helicopters, and new F16 Viper-type fighter planes.
Currently Morocco is still in negotiations for the acquisition of submarines and continues in the preparatory studies for the introduction of a national military industry with Moroccan manufacture."

https://i.imgur.com/LYeKVrJ.jpg


It should also be said that military service is now mandatory in Morocco : "RABAT (Reuters) - Morocco’s ministerial council on Monday approved a draft law reinstating compulsory military service for young men and women for the first time since 2006, the Royal Cabinet said in a statement."

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-morocco-army-idUSKCN1L52DA

[Ruggery]

Spain is a member of NATO if Morocco declares war on Spain it would also declare war on the USA and company and I do not know if Morocco wants to risk an allied intervention in its country.

[Hamilcar]

Spain is a member of NATO if Morocco declares war on Spain it would also declare war on the USA and company and I do not know if Morocco wants to risk an allied intervention in its country.

who said Morocco would declare war on spain ? Morocco has good relations with Spain nothing to worry about

[TheMaestro]

I don't care why sorry to say, but literally shit country with high poverty invest so much money in military. You can literally feed a small city with that money, same goes with Slovakia they bought some shitty fighter jets now the only action they see is the dust falling on them. Also take in consideration the price of fuel and maintenance price for that shit.

[mitalit]

who said Morocco would declare war on spain ? Morocco has good relations with Spain nothing to worry about
No, we don't have good relations. What happens is that Spain is a very weak country politically speaking and with a progressive government and Morocco takes advantage of it.

[Hamilcar]

I don't care why sorry to say, but literally shit country with high poverty invest so much money in military. You can literally feed a small city with that money, same goes with Slovakia they bought some shitty fighter jets now the only action they see is the dust falling on them. Also take in consideration the price of fuel and maintenance price for that shit.

you really exaggerate Morocco isn't that poor and its economy keeps growing day by day


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zX1dUo1kAlk&ab_channel=i-Profile


Of course there are still many things to improve especially in rural areas but it's not as if Morocco was only investing in the military field I don't see what's wrong with allowing a small part of your PIB to this field

[Hamilcar]

No, we don't have good relations. What happens is that Spain is a very weak country politically speaking and with a progressive government and Morocco takes advantage of it.

overall we have good relations and spain is still one of the strongest commercial ally of Morocco

some tensions here and there is nothing compared to the relation between algeria and Morocco

[TheMaestro]

you really exaggerate Morocco isn't that poor and its economy keeps growing day by day


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zX1dUo1kAlk&ab_channel=i-Profile


Of course there are still many things to improve especially in rural areas but it's not as if Morocco was only investing in the military field I don't see what's wrong with allowing a small part of your PIB to this field

nah not really it's still dog shit on par in development index with Iraq lol.

[Cristiano viejo]

Morocco resembles the typical subsaharan country where people starve but they invert in weapons.

Morocco is Third World, the only thing Spain should worry is about the Moroccan immigrants, the worst cancer one could imagine. Thieves, rapists, terrorists, illiterate, useless...

[Gredos]

https://i.imgur.com/p7yBuUQ.jpg



bullshit, these chariots are the only ones that should worry


https://static.noticiasdegipuzkoa.eus/images/2015/05/14/5599850_18781_1.jpg

[gixajo]

That "tank" is not an Abrahams, it´s a British Challenger II .

El Español should should improve its documentation system :picard1:

[gixajo]

“We know that Morocco is at odds with Spain and Algeria regarding certain issues and that the situation is tense at the border with Mauritania. Both these satellites will give Morocco the means to gather intelligence and an independence that no one else has in the region,”

Well, if Spain is in the same region, we have several of them, and made by ourselves, not by a foreign country.

And British of course have them, more than Spain, and is also in the region (Gibraltar), and USA also, (Rota) and Portugal.

I guess the newspaper forget that the region is Western Mediterranean, and includes both coasts of the Gibraltar straight and part of the Atlantic ocean.

Actually, this article does not intend to point out a fear of Spain to Morocco for its rearmament(at least I think that its main intention is not this one), but rather to try to influence the policy of Spanish military spending, in the sense of increasing it to criticize the disinterest of the current government in these aspects.

[Hamilcar]

Well, if Spain is in the same region, we have several of them, and made by ourselves, not by a foreign country.

And British of course have them, more than Spain, and is also in the region (Gibraltar), and USA also, (Rota) and Portugal.

I guess the newspaper forget that the region is Western Mediterranean, and includes both coasts of the Gibraltar straight and part of the Atlantic ocean.

Actually, this article does not intend to point out a fear of Spain to Morocco for its rearmament(at least I think that its main intention is not this one), but rather to try to influence the policy of Spanish military spending, in the sense of increasing it to criticize the disinterest of the current government in these aspects.

that's not really what the quote implies It's not just a random military satellite

[gixajo]

that's not really what the quote implies It's not just a random military satellite

I know, that satellite is probably is just like the Death Star.

Come on, a satellite made to order by the French, when they are interested they press a button from Paris and you run out of their data.

[Adamm]

Morocco needs military hardware because of certain factors:

1. Polisario movement (guerilla terrorist group in the Sahara desert)
2. Mali and Sahel region is a warzone (not far from Morocco)
3. Algeria (which supports the Polisario movement)

The only thing in which Spain and Morocco could have a problem with is the maritime boundary of the Canary Islands, but as for now Spain has a way more superior navy than Morocco.

[Ascended]

One Platoon of Gixajo and his friends can destroy the whole Maghreb military, unfortunately...Sad but true

[sean]

Unironically, Morocco is the most west-friendly MENA country in existence. Tunisia and Egypt come in at second and third. Europeans contribute heavily to Morocco via tourism.

Morocco was a US ally during the Cold War while Algeria was a Soviet ally. Algerians support local Sahrawi militant group called Polisario Front, they steal funds sent by EU, and keep trying to separate Morocco in two in order for Algeria to have an opening towards the Atlantic Ocean, and France is using this situation to sow discord between those nations till this day.

Ironically, the Fascist side of the Spanish Civil War got its start by using the Army of Africa from Morocco to re-invade the Spanish Mainland. A significant component of the "White" terror was allowing the Moroccan troops free reign on the Republican women stating that since they espoused free love that made them "fair game" for the colonial troops.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxlt-j_7MK4

In retaliation for this campaign of sexual violence the Republican forces shot every single Moroccan prisoner they captured, sometimes even burning them alive.

History repeats itself, liberals and feminists will be purged.

[gixajo]

One Platoon of Gixajo and his friends can destroy the whole Maghreb military, unfortunately...Sad but true

Spain has just now no reason to destroy Morocco, and even if Spain wanted, is not able to do this. And the opposite is the same, Morocco cannot destroy Spain or invade it.

Ceuta and Melilla are easy targets for Morocco, at least initially and if the attack occurs without prior warning.

Both Morocco and Spain monitor and control the movements of all their neighbors, some with more interest than others, and if it is true that the neighbor whose most likely problems may arise for Spain is Morocco, for a long time who has worried Morocco it is Algeria.(as Adamm said)

Mistrust between our countries has always existed, like a background noise, but right now nothing can make us think that in the immediate future, there will be no warlike conflict between us.

And I haven't been part of any platoon for 20 years :D

[Ascended]

Spain has just now no reason to destroy Morocco, and even if Spain wanted, is not able to do this. And the opposite is the same, Morocco cannot destroy Spain or invade it.

Ceuta and Melilla are easy targets for Morocco, at least initially and if the attack occurs without prior warning.

Both Morocco and Spain monitor and control the movements of all their neighbors, some with more interest than others, and if it is true that the neighbor whose most likely problems may arise for Spain is Morocco, for a long time who has worried Morocco it is Algeria.(as Adamm said)

Mistrust between our countries has always existed, like a background noise, but right now nothing can make us think that in the immediate future, there will be no warlike conflict between us.

And I haven't been part of any platoon for 20 years :D

All military hardware purchases are just tribute payments to one or another power. That is the truth, trolling aside. War, when or if it happens will not be "Morocco vs Spain" these are 20th century abstractions. What will happen is, as the US and anglo-american empire continue their downsizing trend for the next generation, the Eurasianist project will take helm. Russians in Berlin and beyond, and then whatever transpires is up in the air. But I think if a great war was to occur, the Mediterranean will be a battlezone until it exhaust itself and be a vacuum void of humanity. May Allah protect against such scenarios/

[gixajo]

.............

So the Indian troops that fight with British and the Moroccan and Algerian troops that fight with French during the WWII weren´t not "colonial troops" but invaders of Europe?

Oh yeah, and the International Brigades were communist crusaders to leberate Spain from those moors...:picard1:

Moor troops were commanded by Spanish officers under Spanish command and embed in Spanish military units, its country (or that zone of its country) was under the rule of Spain (or a shared administration with locals) so compare that with an invasion is inexact, ridiculous and directly is false.

Unless you have become a radical communist and believe an argument used by the propaganda of the leftist side of that war.

You have such a distorted vision of reality that your comments seem like a joke. But no, your comments in Spanish issues have only one intention, to provoke us.

[Ascended]

So the Indian troops that fight with British and the and Moroccan and Algerian troops that fight with French during the WWII weren´t not "colonial troops" but invaders of Europe?

Oh yeah, and the International Brigades were communist crusaders to leberate Spain from those moors...:picard1:

Moor troops were commanded by Spanish officers under Spanish command and embed in Spanish military units, its country (or that zone of its country) was under the rule of Spain (or a shared administration with locals) so compare that with an invasion is inexact, ridiculous and directly is false.

Unless you have become a radical communist and believe an argument used by the propaganda of the leftist side of that war.

You have such a distorted vision of reality that your comments seem like a joke. But no, your comments in Spanish issues have only one intention, to provoke us.

No, there is a tangible PATTERN: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marocchinate

[gixajo]

All military hardware purchases are just tribute payments to one or another power. That is the truth, trolling aside. War, when or if it happens will not be "Morocco vs Spain" these are 20th century abstractions. What will happen is, as the US and anglo-american empire continue their downsizing trend for the next generation, the Eurasianist project will take helm. Russians in Berlin and beyond, and then whatever transpires is up in the air. But I think if a great war was to occur, the Mediterranean will be a battlezone until it exhaust itself and be a vacuum void of humanity. May Allah protect against such scenarios/

The only thing we could say is that it would be the USA who has the most power to decide who would win in a hypothetical war between Spain and Morocco.

I'm not saying that whoever USA decides would win, but that his support would be practically decisive.

[gixajo]

No, there is a tangible PATTERN: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marocchinate

It would be necessary to ask the French commanders who allowed, encouraged and turned a blind eye in that specific case.

We also have information on similar cases of unbridled retaliation by troops in all wars, including the Vietnam or Balkan wars.

The pattern is war, retaliation, resentment and induced hatred mixed with an impunity sentiment encouraged by white officers(in this case), that used those Moroccans troops as a mean to humiliate those who stood up to them and to make amends for having been detained for months in Monte Cassino without being able to advance.

The same was done in Spain using a similar image, by both sides, to instill fear in the other side, some, or to indicate that the others were traitors to their race and that they used brutal methods to achieve their objectives.

Propaganda and what are now called "psychological operations", to paramine the morale of the enemy through the fear of its civilian population.

The same mixture of hatred and fear that moves your compatriot to have a monomania focused on the Spanish is what encourages them to do or allow that type of crimes to be committed, and not the fact of being Moroccan, Eritrean, English or Spanish.

Don't you think?

[sean]

So the Indian troops that fight with British and Moroccan and Algerian troops that fight with French during the WWII were not "colonial troops" but invaders of Europe?

There were no Indian troops in Europe. The Eighth Army (initially composed of 4th Indian Infantry Division) under General Bernard Montgomery defeated the German Afrika Korps in North Africa.

The first defeat of German land forces in Africa was by the British at the Second Battle of El Alamein.

The Royal Navy defeated both the Italian and German navies at the same time, which were roughly the same size.

Only at the Battle of Monte Cassino in Italy, the 4th, 8th and 10th Divisions and 43rd Gurkha Infantry Brigade led the advance, and Gurkhas were actually from Nepal, were part mongoloid not legit brown like those colonial Maghrebi troops in Europe. And they didn't rape white women en masse.


Oh yeah, and the International Brigades were communist crusaders to leberate Spain from those moors. Moor troops were commanded by Spanish officers under Spanish command and embed in Spanish military units, its country (or that zone of its country) was under the rule of Spain (or a shared administration with locals) so compare that with an invasion is inexact, ridiculous and directly is false.

https://i.imgur.com/jq0FYpv.jpg


Unless you have become a radical communist and believe an argument used by the propaganda of the leftist side of that war.

Ironically, during the war the Republicans focused on anti-Moorish propaganda because of the use of foreign troops and the Francoists focused on anti-Soviet propaganda. After WW2, Franco was an American-backed dictator in the Cold War and the King he appointed himself liberalised the country along American lines.


You have such a distorted vision of reality that your comments seem like a joke. But no, your comments in Spanish issues have only one intention, to provoke us.

I don't give a damn about your people, I don't have anything against Spain, in fact I even sympathise with the Spanish far-right (I also like Spanish music and movies), but I am not going to tolerate self-hating liberal cucks like yourself.

You openly supported unbanning Nassbean/Hamilcar who actually said the truth about his people in Europe.

https://i.imgur.com/BpwMrzc.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/xDooBEe.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/B4wNJ62.jpg

You are a traitor to your own people, deal with it.

https://i.imgur.com/hC96rly.jpg

Anyway, why are you wasting your time hating people on a forum you would never meet? Maybe you should spend your energy chasing women in real life and money instead, you would be a much happier person, and not just another lonely old fart on TA.

https://i.imgur.com/rH5Dhua.jpg

[Ascended]

You really do like taking screenshots don't you Sean? What's wrong with posting on a forum during a massive lockdown. You better not think I'm some lonely old fart, a Canadian like yourself, based on your mindset would KILL to live in my shoes... besides all this knowledge of world war2 battles and what not and Hamilcars comment is even more true for the Commonwealth countries INFINITELY more than Spain. When was the last time you saw a White Canadian woman in Toronto with a white baby in her stroller? It's Black babies and Indian babies for the most part. Let's see your bank account btw "Sean" (low class name)


Let's see your women

Let's see your offspring


"Lel"

[gixajo]

. The Eighth Army (initially composed of 4th Indian Infantry Division) under General Bernard Montgomery defeated the German Afrika Korps in North Africa.

The first defeat of German land forces in Africa was by the British at the Second Battle of El Alamein.

The Royal Navy defeated both the Italian and German navies at the same time, which were roughly the same size.

Only at the Battle of Monte Cassino in Italy, the 4th, 8th and 10th Divisions and 43rd Gurkha Infantry Brigade led the advance, and Gurkhas were actually from Nepal, were part mongoloid not legit brown like those colonial Maghrebi troops in Europe. And they didn't rape white women en masse.



https://i.imgur.com/jq0FYpv.jpg



Ironically, during the war the Republicans focused on anti-Moorish propaganda because of the use of foreign troops and the Francoists focused on anti-Soviet propaganda. After WW2, Franco was an American-backed dictator in the Cold War and the King he appointed himself liberalised the country along American lines.



I don't give a damn about your people, I don't have anything against Spain, in fact I even sympathise with the Spanish far-right (I also like Spanish music and movies), but I am not going to tolerate self-hating liberal cucks like yourself.

You openly supported unbanning Nassbean/Hamilcar who actually said the truth about his people in Europe.

https://i.imgur.com/BpwMrzc.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/xDooBEe.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/B4wNJ62.jpg

You are a traitor to your own people, deal with it.

https://i.imgur.com/hC96rly.jpg

Anyway, why are you wasting your time hating people on a forum you would never meet? Maybe you should spend your energy chasing women in real life and money instead, you would be a much happier person, and not just another lonely old fart on TA.

https://i.imgur.com/rH5Dhua.jpg

You are frankly an idiot, without any doubt.;)

I have lost count of the ways in which you have tried to defame me personally, which makes me think that if you have no better way to combat what I say, then I am on the right track.


There were no Indian troops in Europe

just after this:


Only at the Battle of Monte Cassino in Italy, the 4th, 8th and 10th Divisions and 43rd Gurkha Infantry Brigade led the advance, and Gurkhas were actually from Nepal, were part mongoloid not legit brown like those colonial Maghrebi troops in Europe.

So yes, there were Indian troops in Europe during the II World War, and no, they were not only Gurkhas.

The 4th Division was an Indian division, and those were the units that formed it during its participation in that battle.


Headquarters
Central India Horse (up to April 1942 and from July 1944) (Divisional Reconnaissance Regiment)
Royal Artillery
Commanders divisional artillery:

Brigadier Noel Beresford-Peirse
Brigadier P. Maxwell (Jun – Sep 1940)
Brigadier William H.B. Mirrless (Sep 1940 – Mar 1942)
Brigadier Harry Kenneth Dimoline (Mar 1942 – Feb 1944)
Brigadier John F. Adye (Feb 1944 – Mar 1944)
Brigadier Henry C.W. Eastman (Apr 1944 – )
HQ
3rd Regiment Royal Horse Artillery
1st, 4th, 11th, 25th, 31st and 32nd Field Regiments, RA
57th (King's Own Yorkshire Light Infantry) Light A.A. Regiment, RA
35th and 149th Anti-Tank Regiments, RA
Indian Engineers: Sappers and Miners
4th Field Company, King George's Own Bengal Sappers and Miners
12th Field Company, Queen Victoria's Own Madras Sappers and Miners
18th and 21st Field Company, Royal Bombay Sappers and Miners
11th Field Park Company, Queen Victoria's Own Madras Sappers and Miners
4th Indian Division Signals
1st Battalion, Royal Northumberland Fusiliers (Machine Gun) (April–December 1940)
Machine Gun Battalion, 6th Rajputana Rifles (1942–1945)
5 Indian Infantry Brigade
HQ 5th Indian Infantry Brigade
1st Battalion, Royal Fusiliers (up to Sept 1941)
1st Battalion, Buffs (Royal East Kent Regiment) (from Sept 1941 to Dec 1941))
1st Battalion, Welch Regiment (from Dec 1941 up to April 1942)
1/4th Battalion, Essex Regiment (from April 1942)
1st Battalion, 1st Punjab Regiment (up to April 1942)
3rd Battalion, 1st Punjab Regiment
4th Battalion (Outram's), 6th Rajputana Rifles (with 11th Indian Infantry Brigade in Italy)
3rd Battalion (Queen Mary's Own), 10th Baluch Regiment (from April 1942)
1st Battalion, 9th Gurkha Rifles
7 Indian Infantry Brigade
HQ 7th Indian Infantry Brigade
1st Battalion, Royal Sussex Regiment
2nd (Royal) Battalion, 11th Sikh Regiment
4th Battalion, 11th Sikh Regiment (up to April 1942)
4th Battalion, 16th Punjab Regiment
1st Battalion, 2nd King Edward VII's Own Gurkha Rifles (The Sirmoor Rifles) (from April 1942)
11 Indian Infantry Brigade (1939–1942 and 1944–1945)
HQ 11th Indian Infantry Brigade
2nd Battalion, Queen's Own Cameron Highlanders
2nd Battalion, 5th Mahratta Light Infantry (up to June 1942)
1st Battalion (Wellesley's), 6th Rajputana Rifles (up to April 1942)(with 5th Indian Infantry Brigade in Italy)
4th Battalion, 7th Rajput Regiment (up to January 1942)
3rd (Royal) Battalion, 12th Frontier Force Regiment
3rd Battalion, 14th Punjab Regiment (from January 1942)
2nd Battalion, 7th Gurkha Rifles (from April 1942)
Lovat Scouts
Support units
Royal Indian Army Service Corps
4th Indian Division Troops Transport Company
5th, 7th and 11th Brigade Transport Companies
220th Indian DID
Medical Services
I.M.S-RAMC-I.M.D-I.H.C-I.A.M.C
14th, 17th, 19th, 26th and 32nd Indian Field Ambulances
4th Indian Division Provost Unit
Indian Army Ordnance Corps
4th Indian Division Ordnance Field Park
Indian Electrical and Mechanical Engineers
117th, 118th and 119th Infantry Workshop Companies
4th Indian Division Recovery Company

You can do a simple images google search (your main source of knowledge) and see Sikhs fighting in Montecassino.

And British used colonial troops all around the world out of their original countries, indepently that they used them in more or less ocasions or in more or less cantities in Europe, that doesn´t invalidate any argument.

And you, Canadians, are also used as colonial troops in the same way that Moroccans were used by Frenchs or Spanish far away your nation. Same for Canadians, Australians and New Zelanders.

Because you are basically a colonial product whose ancestors left their place of origin looking for a better future for their descendants. Exactly like all immigrants who you criticize so much, with the difference, that Mexicans are at least related to ancestors from that land.

:)

[Ascended]

too mean...

[Hamilcar]

I know, that satellite is probably is just like the Death Star.

Come on, a satellite made to order by the French, when they are interested they press a button from Paris and you run out of their data.

these satellite gives advantages that no other african country has and no it's not controlled by France at all wtf

[gixajo]

these satellite gives advantages that no other african country has and no it's not controlled by France at all wtf

Yeah, no other African country, but in that region there are not just African countries, in that region are also British, Spanish, USA and Portugueses and all of us have better or similar satellites, that was what I meant.

I doubt that the French have not left a way to regain control of that satellite in case it were necessary in the future. A backdoor, you know...

And you will also need the data and collaboration from foreign tracking stations to keep it in orbit and correct its flight, something that is done almost constantly, that is another way in wich Frenchs (and others) could control your satellites.

[Hamilcar]

Yeah, no other African country, but in that region there are not just African countries, in that region are also British, Spanish, USA and Portugueses and all of us have better or similar satellites, that was what I meant.

I doubt that the French have not left a way to regain control of that satellite in case it were necessary in the future. A backdoor, you know...

And you will also need the data and collaboration from foreign tracking stations to keep it in orbit and correct its flight, something that is done almost constantly, that is another way in wich Frenchs (and others) could control your satellites.

I doubt portugal and spain have better satellites tbh (I mean their own satellites) and again it's a spy satellite and the informations it glances are totally confidential so most of it is restricted to the moroccan army it can't be easily controlled by France

[Cristiano viejo]

You really do like taking screenshots don't you Sean? What's wrong with posting on a forum during a massive lockdown. You better not think I'm some lonely old fart, a Canadian like yourself, based on your mindset would KILL to live in my shoes... besides all this knowledge of world war2 battles and what not and Hamilcars comment is even more true for the Commonwealth countries INFINITELY more than Spain. When was the last time you saw a White Canadian woman in Toronto with a white baby in her stroller? It's Black babies and Indian babies for the most part. Let's see your bank account btw "Sean" (low class name)


Let's see your women

Let's see your offspring


"Lel"
LEL :laugh:


I doubt portugal and spain have better satellites tbh (I mean their own satellites) and again it's a spy satellite and the informations it glances are totally confidential so most of it is restricted to the moroccan army it can't be easily controlled by France

Do you speak seriously? it is impossible. You are the most delusional user BY FAR. Morocco is Third World. No industry at all. And you here claiming Moroccan satellites could be compared with these from the First World :laugh:

[sean]

You are frankly an idiot, without any doubt. I have lost count of the ways in which you have tried to defame me personally, which makes me think that if you have no better way to combat what I say, then I am on the right track.

Defame you? The whole forum knows that you are a liberal clown lel. And I never waste time with clowns, you are living a example of dumb people that bring zero value to the world. No wonder you guys have no lives, you waste your time on this forum. You are as faux-outraged as the SJWs.


So yes, there were Indian troops in Europe during the II World War, and no, they were not only Gurkhas. The 4th Division was an Indian division, and those were the units that formed it during its participation in that battle. You can do a simple images google search (your main source of knowledge) and see Sikhs fighting in Montecassino.

British India only contributed the third largest Allied contingent in the Italian campaign after US and British forces. Not downplaying their efforts but it would feel weird to shoehorn them in.

On the other hand, about 136,000 Moroccan fighters fought for the Generalissimo's "Army of Africa", and were, by the Franco's commanders own account, the most effective force in the war.

https://i.imgur.com/0tPzhm1.jpg


And British used colonial troops all around the world out of their original countries, indepently that they used them in more or less ocasions or in more or less cantities in Europe, that doesn´t invalidate any argument. And you, Canadians, are also used as colonial troops in the same way that Moroccans were used by Frenchs or Spanish far away your nation. Same for Canadians, Australians and New Zelanders.

And Canadian soldiers in WW2 were the greatest lone wolf soldiers in human history.

We smashed the krauts in Holland with almost all Canadian troops, we smashed the krauts on Juno Beach using only Canadian troops, we took Vimy Ridge with only the Canadian core where all others failed, we always answered the call to war to defend our motherland and the Empire.

Léo Major, the one eyed "ghost" Canadian soldier single handedly liberated the Dutch town of Zwolle. He captured the commanding officer, forced the German garrison to surrender, tricked the SS to shoot on their own troops, had Canadian tanks fire on SS troops, and ultimately captured over 150 German soldiers, and made thousands of Germans go into retreat.

Moroccan troops on the other hand literally raped their way through Spain in the Civil War.


Because you are basically a colonial product whose ancestors left their place of origin looking for a better future for their descendants.

Except my ancestors came as conquerors, the French literally had to sign their sovereignty over to the British.

The French colonial policy, at least in Canada, was much more similar to the Spanish and Portuguese than to the British. Had Quebec been conquered by the British during the War of Spanish Succession/Queen Anne's War, the plan was to have the entire French colonial population deported to the West Indies to be put to work on the sugar plantations with the slaves.

Shame we didn't get round to it until the Seven Years War by which time, the government had pussied out.


Exactly like all immigrants who you criticize so much, with the difference, that Mexicans are at least related to ancestors from that land.

Nope, their indigenous ancestors are not related to the Native American tribes from the Southwest US.

https://i.4pcdn.org/pol/1523041043171.jpg

There's nothing wrong with criticising Mexican immigration, they are brown as shit, and why would there be outrage when you see a shit in the toilet? That is where shit belongs.xD

https://i.imgur.com/t5YNSw4.jpg

[Ascended]

The reality that is Canada in 2020 must eat you up Sean. I know your kind very well. It's ok ..All things after reaching their pinnacle must come to an end, and your ppl reached their pinnacle somewhere circa 1965.

Still, my fight is not with you. Just know that in your lifetime, you WILL prepare for some big changes here, so prepare yourself accordingly.

[gixajo]

Defame you? The whole forum knows that you are a liberal clown lel. And I never waste time with clowns, you are living a example of dumb people that bring zero value to the world. No wonder you guys have no lives, you waste your time on this forum. You are as faux-outraged as the SJWs

:D




British India only contributed the third largest Allied contingent in the Italian campaign after US and British forces. Not downplaying their efforts but it would feel weird to shoehorn them in.

Yeah, you were wrong, Indian troops were used in Europe.


On the other hand, about 136,000 Moroccan fighters fought for the Generalissimo's "Army of Africa", and were, by the Franco's commanders own account, the most effective force in the war.

Never were at the same time 136.000 Moroccans fighter at the same time in Spain during the Civil war.

Simply because de "Cuerpo de Ejército de África" was composed by 4 divisions, each division at that time has around 10k troops, and that divisions were not only formed by Moroccan soldier military units.

136.000Moroccans participated in the whole war? Maybe, but never more than 30k at the same time in the Iberian peninsula, depending what moment, around 5-9% of the total Francoist army.

The most effective force in the war? Maybe, expendable troops with Spanish commanders, the top 3 during civil War were "Regulares", "Legión española" and "Brigadas de Navarra"(Carlists).

"Brigadas Internacionales", composed by foreigners, many of them form USA, were completely useless military units in comparisson, only useful for propaganda, same than you here.

Moroccans earned his salary, fighting fiercely.






And Canadian soldiers in WW2 were the greatest lone wolf soldiers in human history.

We smashed the krauts in Holland with almost all Canadian troops, we smashed the krauts on Juno Beach using only Canadian troops, we took Vimy Ridge with only the Canadian core where all others failed, we always answered the call to war to defend our motherland and the Empire.

Léo Major, the one eyed "ghost" Canadian soldier single handedly liberated the Dutch town of Zwolle. He captured the commanding officer, forced the German garrison to surrender, tricked the SS to shoot on their own troops, had Canadian tanks fire on SS troops, and ultimately captured over 150 German soldiers, and made thousands of Germans go into retreat.

No doubt, those Canadian soldiers as well as the Australians and New Zealand always had a great reputation for fighting well.:thumb001:

You, however, as an individual, would be an embarrassment to them.


Moroccan troops on the other hand literally raped their way through Spain in the Civil War.

If they really did, it would move them the same hatred that moves you.




Except my ancestors came as conquerors, the French literally had to sign their sovereignty over to the British.

The French colonial policy, at least in Canada, was much more similar to the Spanish and Portuguese than to the British. Had Quebec been conquered by the British during the War of Spanish Succession/Queen Anne's War, the plan was to have the entire French colonial population deported to the West Indies to be put to work on the sugar plantations with the slaves.

Shame we didn't get round to it until the Seven Years War by which time, the government had pussied out.

Say this to a French next time you see one.


Nope, their indigenous ancestors are not related to the Native American tribes from the Southwest US.



Surely 50 times more related to them than you.(unless you are yourself Mexican)


There's nothing wrong with criticising Mexican immigration, they are brown as shit, and why would there be outrage when you see a shit in the toilet? That is where shit belongs.xD

Criticism about Mexican or any other inmigration is ok, what it´s wrong is the way you do it.

So hard for you to speak, even to criticize something without disrespect? Can't you develop an idea without trying to belittle someone?

[gixajo]

Repetido.

[sean]

Never were at the same time 136.000 Moroccans fighter at the same time in Spain during the Civil war. 136.000 Moroccans participated in the whole war? Maybe, but never more than 30k at the same time in the Iberian peninsula, depending what moment, around 5-9% of the total Francoist army.

Bullshit.

https://i.imgur.com/FKT0gnN.jpg


The most effective force in the war? Maybe, expendable troops with Spanish commanders, the top 3 during civil War were "Regulares", "Legión española" and "Brigadas de Navarra"(Carlists).

They were a status quo brown militia terrorising the Spanish civilians into submission and preventing coherent anti-Franco protest. They would launch human wave attacks until the enemy line broke due to sheer attrition.

https://i.imgur.com/uRSHN6E.jpg


"Brigadas Internacionales", composed by foreigners, many of them form USA, were completely useless military units in comparisson, only useful for propaganda, same than you here.

Nonsense, they were mostly commies and jews from catholic countries.

https://i.imgur.com/iqeg0t2.jpg


You, however, as an individual, would be an embarrassment to them.

Says the traitor selling himself out to a liberal ideology, bet you love licking Moroccan boots.


Say this to a French next time you see one.

I will.


Surely 50 times more related to them than you.(unless you are yourself Mexican)

Nope, they had no genetic connection. There was virtually zero human development north of the Rio Grande, it was just a bunch of primitive hunter gatherer. There was a few stone cities subsisting on corn in the Southwest, but it's really nothing.

The actual natives of the USA had reddish skin and high cheekbones, they were also very tall. The indigenous ancestors of modern Mexicans were short, squat, brown-skinned. They are about as native to the USA as Turks are to Germany.

Even Native Americans prefered the white Americans to the Mexicans back in the day, they even gave the US Army safe passage through their lands in the Mexican-American War.

Pick up a history book not written by a Marxist.


So hard for you to speak, even to criticize something without disrespect? Can't you develop an idea without trying to belittle someone?

Well, I speak my mind. I don't feel the need to belittle someone but I would if I wanted to. I never lie or hold back ever. It's bad for the soul to bottle your thoughts.

I know you will do your best to enforce political correctness, and you would want us to lick minority boots, but it would not happen. I am not a cuck.

[Cristiano viejo]

Sean posting Moroccan sources about how brave were the Moroccan soldiers... against civilians :rolleyes:

Lel

[Aspirin]

When was the last time you saw a White Canadian woman in Toronto with a white baby in her stroller? It's Black babies and Indian babies for the most part.

Are you trolling or this is for real?

[Ascended]

Are you trolling or this is for real?

I am serious. Every age group of White Anglos/Whites in general is witnessing a tangible decline, with newborns and babies in strollers being almost completely absent from my vision. And I like WASP people, its not like I am anti Sean...but he for some reason thinks I'm some lunatic clown with no life. And I live in an area with lots of white ppl. He definitely is outside the city. But if the city goes, what next? White flight can not be a permanent strategy

[Loki]

Morocco has enough money to buy expensive military aircraft but cannot even feed its population? Sounds like a typical banana republic. How many thousands of Moroccan refugees/criminals are in Europe? Morocco can use that money to take them back and provide for them.

[Loki]

I am serious. Every age group of White Anglos/Whites in general is witnessing a tangible decline, with newborns and babies in strollers being almost completely absent from my vision. And I like WASP people, its not like I am anti Sean...but he for some reason thinks I'm some lunatic clown with no life. And I live in an area with lots of white ppl. He definitely is outside the city. But if the city goes, what next? White flight can not be a permanent strategy

That's because you're in a Canadian multiculti city. White people who are starting families don't live there. Not a good environment for kids to grow up in.

I agree White flight cannot be a permanent strategy. It is more like a forced situation. It's a big mistake for any nation to lose its biggest cities.

[Kamal900]

I am serious. Every age group of White Anglos/Whites in general is witnessing a tangible decline, with newborns and babies in strollers being almost completely absent from my vision. And I like WASP people, its not like I am anti Sean...but he for some reason thinks I'm some lunatic clown with no life. And I live in an area with lots of white ppl. He definitely is outside the city. But if the city goes, what next? White flight can not be a permanent strategy

Well, yes. We can see the statistics of say the number of babies being born every year according to race which does show that White babies are in the lowest of numbers. I'd say that there are a number of factors behind this.

[Hamilcar]

Morocco has enough money to buy expensive military aircraft but cannot even feed its population? Sounds like a typical banana republic. How many thousands of Moroccan refugees/criminals are in Europe? Morocco can use that money to take them back and provide for them.

poverty rate of morocco is around 30% and it keeps improving : https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/MAR/morocco/poverty-rate

I don't think a banana republic would look like this :


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HLAEX0eKcw&ab_channel=horsfrontieres

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8iCbjNGKlE&ab_channel=TheTimTraveller

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1tPNmTwSKI&ab_channel=Total

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpwXlP7zei0&ab_channel=KendousTV%D9%82%D9%86%D8%AF%D9%88%D8%B3

[gixajo]

Bullshit.

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Read if you can:


Para julio de 1938, el Cuerpo de Ejército de Marroquí estaba integrado por unos 98 000 hombres comandados por el general Juan Yagüe. En aquel momento, estaba formado por las divisiones 40.ª, 50.ª y 105.ª; excepto la 50.ª División, formada por soldados de reemplazo, todas las demás divisiones estaban compuestas por tropas muy aguerridas: legionarios, regulares, y voluntarios de las milicias falangistas y carlistas.

The "cuerpo de ejército"(Army Corps not Army, the Army of Africa was in Morocco), when it had more troops, it had 98k men, 3 divisions in total, and one of them (50ª división) where Spanish volontaries, and the other 2 were formed by Legionaires,falangists, carlists, regulars(that were mainly also from Morocco, but also from Spain), and what you are talking about "mercenarios africanos de los territorios de Ifni y Sahara". never more than 30k moroccans at the same time.




They were a status quo brown militia terrorising the Spanish civilians into submission and preventing coherent anti-Franco protest. They would launch human wave attacks until the enemy line broke due to sheer attrition.

Fantastic, they were paid for doing those things. I have doubts if you are paid for being so ignorant.




Nonsense, they were mostly commies and jews from catholic countries.

And British, Canadians, Americans...

https://i.imgur.com/BixWhZQ.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/aHOMq7A.jpg








Says the traitor selling himself out to a liberal ideology, bet you love licking Moroccan boots.

I do only this in your insane imagination, while you are a gentle subject of a foreign queen.








Nope, they had no genetic connection. There was virtually zero human development north of the Rio Grande, it was just a bunch of primitive hunter gatherer. There was a few stone cities subsisting on corn in the Southwest, but it's really nothing.

The actual natives of the USA had reddish skin and high cheekbones, they were also very tall. The indigenous ancestors of modern Mexicans were short, squat, brown-skinned. They are about as native to the USA as Turks are to Germany.

Even Native Americans prefered the white Americans to the Mexicans back in the day, they even gave the US Army safe passage through their lands in the Mexican-American War.

You live in a paralel world.


Pick up a history book not written by a Marxist.

I do often, and you pick up a book, any book.;)




Well, I speak my mind. I don't feel the need to belittle someone but I would if I wanted to. I never lie or hold back ever. It's bad for the soul to bottle your thoughts.

I know you will do your best to enforce political correctness, and you would want us to lick minority boots, but it would not happen. I am not a cuck.

I don´t know if you are a cuck or you are not, but you are surely a coward, an ignorant, bad mannered and quite stupid.

And you don't know me, you keep assigning me attitudes and political ideologies that are not part of me.

The only feeling you can convey to me is grief and disgust.

Me das asco, un asco inmenso.

I will never forget that post with that intellectual handicapped child with his mother who were you making fun of.