Climate Change

[AussieScott]

What's your opinion on it, the science, politics, the policies to fix the problem?

Myself I'm a Sceptic towards the science of the IPCC, the UN, supra national socialism politics behind it and the bankers dreams of the policies to fix the problem.

[AussieScott]

Our lying PM before the last election 5 or 6 days before the vote...

No CO2 tax under the government I lead.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5pzSvSCUZo

[Saturni]

Climate change deniers will be despised just like racists one day, says Al Gore
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2031278/Climate-change-deniers-seen-racists-day-says-Al-Gore.html

Global warmers are the new Xtians, imo. Same old blind devotion to authority, now just served up in green, eco-friendly Socialist wrapping paper.

[Loddfafner]

I am convinced global warming is a reality, and that human activities are a major factor. I doubt much can be done about it at this point, and am skeptical of the proposed complicated financial incentives to tackle it. I am extremely skeptical, though, of the climate change denial movement. They are funded by corporations with the most to lose by any attempt to deal with the problem, and their propaganda blatantly plays on public ignorance of science.

Their tactics resemble those who denied that there was any link between cigarettes and cancer, and strangely enough some of the same tobacco company lawyers show up in the climate denial movement.

[AussieScott]

Actually Climate Change science at the UN IPCC has received $50 billion in research and $100 Billion in propaganda and dissemination funds.

Counter that scepticism of the climate change science which is still science has had $19 million in funding. I'm sure the oil and coal industry has run propaganda dissemination champagnes but no where in the sphere the UN has in the last 10 years...

How do you have legitimate Peer reviewed science if the entire IPCC lobby agrees with each other in a incest clique and any dissenting scientists of the so called consensus have no say, are silenced or sacked?

On top of that the elephant in the room is the Human population, and our incursion on the natural environment is never mentioned as a cause to loss of bio diversity and changing local environments.

Over the last 150 years the temperature average rise has been ~288.0 to ~288.8 degree Kelvin that's 0.8K difference. Yet we are to believe computer models that put the Sun and solar system radiation as a constant in the computer models to give correct simulations.

Fact is Astronomy meteorologists have an 85% accuracy in predicting weather 12 months in advance, using human knowledge and logic. Yet these computer models fail to even accurately predict 6 months ahead.

I'm not denying climate change occurs, our forefathers even wrote about it in there Saga's of Ragnarok. When the winter never ends the wars will start, we know why this happens, yet our current leaders want to blame it on climate change alarmist science rather than telling the truth.

Here's a few interesting links.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-14969399

China and India the developing countries are taking advantage of us to our own peril...

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/opinion/the-greening-of-china-a-mirage/story-e6frgd0x-1226140342005

Dissenting IPCC scientist

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/09/14/nobel-prize-winning-physicist-resigns-from-top-physics-group-over-global/?test=latestnews

http://www.climatedepot.com/a/12797/Exclusive-Nobel-PrizeWinning-Physicist-Who-Endorsed-Obama-Dissents-Resigns-from-American-Physical-Society-Over-Groups-Promotion-of-ManMade-Global-Warming

I also have the largest Green money scam to come which lead in to the many Billions of dollars...

[AussieScott]

Comparing Sceptics of the false climate change consensus is just more Supra National socialists using political correctness of words to craft a sub conscious of self censoring thinking and dissent.

Really comparing sceptics of climate change alarmists to racism, holocaust DENIERS is rather intellectually defunct as you are attacking the person and not the argument.

[Birka]

A new religion.

[AussieScott]

A new religion.

Yes, the Greening of the red ideology uses the older religions to resonate with the young to go Green. It's more of a useful idiot situation though, I use to vote Green before I became politically aware and active. I'm no longer as young and stupid, so you can take heart that the young wake up from the radical left PC schooling we received. Well I had a good Dad and Granddad who taught me, yet the school taught PC makes you self sensor. Till you wake up that is.

The Greens are nothing but suicidal anti white communists dressed in environmental clothing. The Australian greens want to replace skilled immigration, with 100% refugees, 200000/year, with free education up to university for them. The military radically reduced. Death taxes, more taxes then you can poke a stick at. Huge over regulating government. Media government paid and regulated. Virtually no new mining at all, coal mines shut down, no more coal fired power stations, existing shut down. The crazy list is never ending.

Problem is no one reads there policies, when you do, it's what the, they never told me that...

[Quasimodem]

What's your opinion on it, the science, politics, the policies to fix the problem?The science mostly points in the direction of Anthropogenic Global Warming, hence why there is the consensus that there is. Both An Inconvenient Truth and The Great Global Warming Swindle for example misrepresent the science; both demonstrate why politicizing science is garbage. Whether AGW is occurring is a scientific question, not a political question. How to deal with it if it's occurring is the political question.

I'll also mention that the mainstream media tremendously fucks things up, probably due to both its lack of understanding and its desire to generate hype. So the lesson is, never get your science news from the mainstream media.

[Albion]

Climate change deniers will be despised just like racists one day, says Al Gore


And he will just love that, another population that doesn't sign up to the liberal agenda to harass.

[AussieScott]

Here's some more interesting titbits.

Largest Green jobs scam so far...

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100105725/rogue-trader-in-38-6-billion-green-jobs-fraud/

Satellite thermometers that receive one calibration before launch, with no statistics of deviation of temperatures on Earth to calculate accuracy???

http://www.drroyspencer.com/latest-global-temperatures/

Has it warmed, since those developed countries started pumping out all that CO2 in the last decade?

http://www.drroyspencer.com/latest-global-temperatures/

[Jägerstaffel]

This discussion reminds me why I have no faith in my species.

[Quasimodem]

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