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Peterski
10-25-2020, 12:22 PM
German with rural ancestry from the border between Kreis Uelzen and Kreis Lüchow-Dannenberg:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 30.99
2 Atlantic 23.34
3 Baltic 20.95
4 Eastern_Euro 15.64
5 West_Med 3.32
6 East_Med 2.16
7 West_Asian 1.79
8 South_Asian 1.15
9 Northeast_African 0.65

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Southwest_Finnish 5.35
2 North_Swedish 7.62
3 Finnish 8.61
4 East_German 8.76
5 Swedish 9.74
6 North_German 9.93
7 Norwegian 11.15
8 Danish 11.39
9 Hungarian 11.43
10 Polish 11.69
11 South_Polish 11.91
12 North_Dutch 11.99
13 Austrian 12.12
14 Estonian 12.23
15 Ukrainian 13.2
16 Ukrainian_Lviv 13.38
17 East_Finnish 13.42
18 West_Norwegian 13.47
19 Irish 13.77
20 South_Dutch 13.85

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 61.9% Danish + 38.1% Lithuanian @ 1.98
2 51.8% Danish + 48.2% Estonian @ 2.24
3 53.6% Estonian + 46.4% West_Scottish @ 2.51
4 58% Danish + 42% Belorussian @ 2.55
5 55.5% North_German + 44.5% Estonian @ 2.58
6 53.1% Estonian + 46.9% Irish @ 2.59
7 54.1% Estonian + 45.9% Southeast_English @ 2.73
8 56.7% West_Scottish + 43.3% Lithuanian @ 2.76
9 53.5% Orcadian + 46.5% Lithuanian @ 2.84
10 53.7% West_Norwegian + 46.3% Belorussian @ 2.9
11 50.5% North_Dutch + 49.5% Estonian @ 2.91
12 60.9% North_Dutch + 39.1% Lithuanian @ 2.92
13 56.7% North_Dutch + 43.3% Belorussian @ 2.96
14 58.6% Norwegian + 41.4% Belorussian @ 2.97
15 50.7% Belorussian + 49.3% Orcadian @ 3.02
16 59% Danish + 41% Estonian_Polish @ 3.04
17 53% West_Norwegian + 47% Russian_Smolensk @ 3.12
18 57% Estonian + 43% Orcadian @ 3.13
19 62.3% Swedish + 37.7% Belorussian @ 3.15
20 54.6% West_Norwegian + 45.4% Estonian_Polish @ 3.16

Peterski
10-25-2020, 12:28 PM
Eurogenes K13 of the same person:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 41.57
2 Baltic 37.38
3 West_Med 7.96
4 West_Asian 5.16
5 East_Med 3.98
6 South_Asian 1.6
7 Red_Sea 0.71
8 Northeast_African 0.7
9 East_Asian 0.61
10 Oceanian 0.32

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 North_Swedish 5.34
2 East_German 8.75
3 Swedish 8.76
4 Southwest_Finnish 8.86
5 North_German 10.5
6 Austrian 10.61
7 South_Polish 11.01
8 Norwegian 11.81
9 Hungarian 11.95
10 Danish 12.29
11 Polish 12.32
12 North_Dutch 12.79
13 Ukrainian_Lviv 13.77
14 Ukrainian 13.9
15 Finnish 14.01
16 Croatian 14.87
17 Estonian 14.99
18 Orcadian 15.02
19 Belorussian 15.18
20 West_German 15.28

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 55.4% Danish + 44.6% Belorussian @ 1.76
2 60.3% Danish + 39.7% Lithuanian @ 1.82
3 56.4% Norwegian + 43.6% Belorussian @ 2.01
4 64.1% North_German + 35.9% Lithuanian @ 2.03
5 54.4% North_Dutch + 45.6% Belorussian @ 2.11
6 63.9% Swedish + 36.1% Belorussian @ 2.12
7 59.4% North_Dutch + 40.6% Lithuanian @ 2.3
8 64.2% Swedish + 35.8% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.38
9 56.7% Norwegian + 43.3% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.39
10 55.7% Danish + 44.3% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.4
11 56.6% Danish + 43.4% Estonian_Polish @ 2.42
12 65.1% Swedish + 34.9% Estonian_Polish @ 2.43
13 57.6% Norwegian + 42.4% Estonian_Polish @ 2.43
14 59.5% North_German + 40.5% Belorussian @ 2.44
15 59.2% North_German + 40.8% Estonian @ 2.46
16 52.4% Belorussian + 47.6% West_Scottish @ 2.49
17 66% Swedish + 34% Southwest_Russian @ 2.5
18 66.3% Swedish + 33.7% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.5
19 51% Belorussian + 49% Irish @ 2.53
20 59% Swedish + 41% Polish @ 2.65

Leto
10-25-2020, 12:31 PM
Huge Baltic score for Niedersachsen
https://media.makeameme.org/created/its-yuge-12b091589d.jpg

Peterski
10-25-2020, 12:46 PM
Well actually this is in the very middle of Wendland from the 1500s:

[blue villages = this German's ancestors / red = Wendland borders]

https://i.imgur.com/6CCpmUE.png

But in the 1600s these villages were already German-speaking (???):

https://i.imgur.com/oNgMpE0.png

Peterski
10-25-2020, 01:03 PM
Huge Baltic score for Niedersachsen
https://media.makeameme.org/created/its-yuge-12b091589d.jpg

Dodecad K12b:

Population
Gedrosia 6.36 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African 0.25 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 30.23 Pct
North_European 54.59 Pct
South_Asian 0.92 Pct
East_African 0.33 Pct
Southwest_Asian 1.11 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 6.20 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 52.7% Polish (Dodecad) + 47.3% Argyll (1000Genomes) @ 0.77
2 66.5% Dutch (Dodecad) + 33.5% Lithuanian (Dodecad) @ 1.05
3 53.3% Polish (Dodecad) + 46.7% Orcadian (HGDP) @ 1.09
4 52% Polish (Dodecad) + 48% Orkney (1000Genomes) @ 1.11
5 53.8% Orkney (1000Genomes) + 46.2% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 1.12
6 52.4% Orcadian (HGDP) + 47.6% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 1.12
7 51.9% Irish (Dodecad) + 48.1% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 1.14
8 53.9% Polish (Dodecad) + 46.1% Irish (Dodecad) @ 1.16
9 53.7% British (Dodecad) + 46.3% Belorussian (Behar) @ 1.19
10 54.9% Irish (Dodecad) + 45.1% Belorussian (Behar) @ 1.22
11 55.5% Orcadian (HGDP) + 44.5% Belorussian (Behar) @ 1.32
12 56.1% Argyll (1000Genomes) + 43.9% Belorussian (Behar) @ 1.35
13 61.2% Kent (1000Genomes) + 38.8% Lithuanian (Dodecad) @ 1.35
14 52.9% Cornwall (1000Genomes) + 47.1% Belorussian (Behar) @ 1.42
15 67.3% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) + 32.7% Lithuanians (Behar) @ 1.46
16 67% Swedish (Dodecad) + 33% Hungarians (Behar) @ 1.47
17 56.8% Orkney (1000Genomes) + 43.2% Belorussian (Behar) @ 1.47
18 57.3% English (Dodecad) + 42.7% Belorussian (Behar) @ 1.49
19 57.7% CEU30 (1000Genomes) + 42.3% Belorussian (Behar) @ 1.55
20 62.4% CEU30 (1000Genomes) + 37.6% Lithuanian (Dodecad) @ 1.55

Leto
10-25-2020, 01:15 PM
Reminds me of the old assumption that fucking Peterski always tries to portray Germans as some kind of mongrelized Poles, therefore not being part of the West :swl
I believe Adamastor voiced that assumption.

Token
10-25-2020, 01:16 PM
Nice find.

rothaer
10-28-2020, 07:18 AM
Reminds me of the old assumption that fucking Peterski always tries to portray Germans as some kind of mongrelized Poles, therefore not being part of the West :swl
I believe Adamastor voiced that assumption.

Peterski may be obsessed about Slavic contributions among Germans, but as far as there is correct data provided it is to be welcomed. The details are interesting.
However, it´s known, abt. half of German people emerging area was once inhabited by Slavs and by the merging of them and old-German settlers there emerged a number of new East German tribes. This fact is known in Germany ever since and it´s part of Eastern German identity.

I´d not depict Eastern Germans as "mongrelized Poles" because of that. First, Poles are just one people among a number of West Slavic peoples, so these Slavs in later Germany, called Wends, were not Poles. Second, due to the usual fact neighboring people are related (which is close to banality), you can always call one of them a mongrelized form of the other. But would you depict Britsh as mongrelized Irish or mongrelized Germans? I don´t think so.

Btw Eastern Germans are genetically abt. the closest group to Bronze Age Tollensetal warriors (as a secondary convergence). So this genetic is not totally new. It could even be the traditional genetic in that geographic area for quite a while.

rothaer
10-28-2020, 03:34 PM
German with rural ancestry from the border between Kreis Uelzen and Kreis Lüchow-Dannenberg:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 30.99
2 Atlantic 23.34
3 Baltic 20.95
4 Eastern_Euro 15.64
5 West_Med 3.32
6 East_Med 2.16
7 West_Asian 1.79
8 South_Asian 1.15
9 Northeast_African 0.65

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Southwest_Finnish 5.35
2 North_Swedish 7.62
3 Finnish 8.61
4 East_German 8.76
5 Swedish 9.74
6 North_German 9.93
7 Norwegian 11.15
8 Danish 11.39
9 Hungarian 11.43
10 Polish 11.69
11 South_Polish 11.91
12 North_Dutch 11.99
13 Austrian 12.12
14 Estonian 12.23
15 Ukrainian 13.2
16 Ukrainian_Lviv 13.38
17 East_Finnish 13.42
18 West_Norwegian 13.47
19 Irish 13.77
20 South_Dutch 13.85

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 61.9% Danish + 38.1% Lithuanian @ 1.98
2 51.8% Danish + 48.2% Estonian @ 2.24
3 53.6% Estonian + 46.4% West_Scottish @ 2.51
4 58% Danish + 42% Belorussian @ 2.55
5 55.5% North_German + 44.5% Estonian @ 2.58
6 53.1% Estonian + 46.9% Irish @ 2.59
7 54.1% Estonian + 45.9% Southeast_English @ 2.73
8 56.7% West_Scottish + 43.3% Lithuanian @ 2.76
9 53.5% Orcadian + 46.5% Lithuanian @ 2.84
10 53.7% West_Norwegian + 46.3% Belorussian @ 2.9
11 50.5% North_Dutch + 49.5% Estonian @ 2.91
12 60.9% North_Dutch + 39.1% Lithuanian @ 2.92
13 56.7% North_Dutch + 43.3% Belorussian @ 2.96
14 58.6% Norwegian + 41.4% Belorussian @ 2.97
15 50.7% Belorussian + 49.3% Orcadian @ 3.02
16 59% Danish + 41% Estonian_Polish @ 3.04
17 53% West_Norwegian + 47% Russian_Smolensk @ 3.12
18 57% Estonian + 43% Orcadian @ 3.13
19 62.3% Swedish + 37.7% Belorussian @ 3.15
20 54.6% West_Norwegian + 45.4% Estonian_Polish @ 3.16

Shit, do you think I get majority proto Slav? I'd prefer 49%. Or ist it just your favorite calculator, because it overestimates the Pripjat Swamps? ;-)

K15:

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 East_German 5.61
2 Southwest_Finnish 6.56
3 Hungarian 8.68
4 Finnish 8.68
5 South_Polish 9.38
6 North_Swedish 9.84
7 Polish 9.84
8 Ukrainian 10.02
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 10.21
10 Austrian 10.55
11 Croatian 11.25
12 North_German 12.03
13 Estonian 12.03
14 Swedish 12.12
15 East_Finnish 12.38
16 Norwegian 13.08
17 South_Dutch 13.38
18 Moldavian 13.39
19 Russian_Smolensk 13.5
20 Danish 13.85

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 62.7% Ukrainian + 37.3% West_Scottish @ 3.21
2 64.9% Ukrainian + 35.1% Orcadian @ 3.26
3 71.8% East_German + 28.2% Estonian @ 3.28
4 59.2% Estonian + 40.8% French @ 3.37
5 61.8% Ukrainian + 38.2% Southwest_English @ 3.39
6 62.2% Ukrainian + 37.8% Irish @ 3.39
7 59.1% Ukrainian + 40.9% North_Dutch @ 3.41
8 64.3% East_German + 35.7% Finnish @ 3.45
9 62.3% Polish + 37.7% Southwest_English @ 3.5
10 58.8% Ukrainian + 41.2% Danish @ 3.5
11 62.2% Ukrainian + 37.8% Southeast_English @ 3.52
12 52.9% Estonian + 47.1% South_Dutch @ 3.56
13 55.9% East_German + 44.1% Southwest_Finnish @ 3.56
14 57.8% Polish + 42.2% Norwegian @ 3.58
15 59.2% South_Polish + 40.8% Norwegian @ 3.58
16 65.6% Polish + 34.4% Orcadian @ 3.68
17 52.2% Estonian_Polish + 47.8% Southwest_English @ 3.71
18 57.4% Ukrainian + 42.6% Norwegian @ 3.72
19 63.8% South_Polish + 36.2% West_Norwegian @ 3.74
20 59.8% Polish + 40.2% North_Dutch @ 3.79