Ghazan Khan (Ilkhanate heir of Ghengis Khan) Y-DNA

[Kyp]

They tested a direct descendant of the mongol Khan in Iran.

Turned out he was: O-M175

"Mahmud Ghazan (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghazan) (5 November 1271 – 11 May 1304) (Mongolian: Газан хаан, Persian: غازان خان‎, Ghazan Khan, sometimes referred to as Casanus by Westerners[2]) was the seventh ruler of the Mongol Empire's Ilkhanate division in modern-day Iran from 1295 to 1304. He was the son of Arghun, grandson of Abaqa Khan and great-grandson of Hulagu Khan continuing a long line of rulers who were direct descendants of Genghis Khan."

This means Öljaitu (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%96ljait%C3%BC) was also O-M175.


Supposedly there is a study about multiple lineages of Khans & Shahs of Iran coming out in 2022.

[Dr_Maul]

But he was a direct male descendant of Genghis? Who is supposedly R1b?

[Kyp]

But he was a direct male descendant of Genghis? Who is supposedly R1b?

Well... You can make your own conclusions

[Dr_Maul]

Well... You can make your own conclusions

I mean if this is legit then he was probably O. Because the R1b one is based off of a claim that they are from the golden family, but this is a lot more reliable in that regard

[Kaspias]

Did he get any matches?

[Kyp]

Did he get any matches?

I don't know more. I have it from Ilqar's thread in Anthrogenica. He said the data for the study on Iranian shahs & khans will be revealed in 2022.

[Leto]

Was he Muslim?

[Kyp]

I mean if this is legit then he was probably O. Because the R1b one is based off of a claim that they are from the golden family, but this is a lot more reliable in that regard

I think descendants of Ghenghis Khans brother Qasar also were O. So it points to Ydna O for now.

[Kyp]

Was he Muslim?

Yes. He converted.

[Altaylı]

Supposedly there is a study about multiple lineages of Khans & Shahs of Iran coming out in 2022.

I want to see results of Seljuk Aqqoyunlu Qaraqoyunlu Safavid Shah Ismail too much

[Harkonnen]

My O Brother Hero :loveheart:

[Negah]

They tested a direct descendant of the mongol Khan in Iran.

Turned out he was: O-M175

"Mahmud Ghazan (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghazan) (5 November 1271 – 11 May 1304) (Mongolian: Газан хаан, Persian: غازان خان‎, Ghazan Khan, sometimes referred to as Casanus by Westerners[2]) was the seventh ruler of the Mongol Empire's Ilkhanate division in modern-day Iran from 1295 to 1304. He was the son of Arghun, grandson of Abaqa Khan and great-grandson of Hulagu Khan continuing a long line of rulers who were direct descendants of Genghis Khan."

This means Öljaitu (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%96ljait%C3%BC) was also O-M175.


Supposedly there is a study about multiple lineages of Khans & Shahs of Iran coming out in 2022.

I have a close relative who has that Y-DNA and he is a descendant of one the Khans of one the Khanates in the Caucasus that was established by Nadir Shah in the mid-1700s.

[Rethel]

They tested a direct descendant of the mongol Khan in Iran.

Turned out he was: O-M175

It is interesting.
So we have fictional C, probable R1b, and semi-proved O.
I say semi, as it is one result.

Jochi probably was R1a.

So, quite interesting family... :laugh:


"Mahmud Ghazan (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghazan) (5 November 1271 – 11 May 1304) (Mongolian: Газан хаан, Persian: غازان خان‎, Ghazan Khan, sometimes referred to as Casanus by Westerners[2]) was the seventh ruler of the Mongol Empire's Ilkhanate division in modern-day Iran from 1295 to 1304. He was the son of Arghun, grandson of Abaqa Khan and great-grandson of Hulagu Khan continuing a long line of rulers who were direct descendants of Genghis Khan."

When modern english writer write "direct descendant" - it has to be doubled or trippled checked.


Supposedly there is a study about multiple lineages of Khans & Shahs of Iran coming out in 2022.

I cannot wait.
The most interesting would be to know Achemenids, Parthians and Sassanids.
Some of them had remaining known issue at least centuries later.
At least Sassadnis until the late Middle Ages.

[Rethel]

I want to see results of Seljuk Aqqoyunlu Qaraqoyunlu Safavid Shah Ismail too much

I guess they could be IE.

[Rethel]

And btw, I forgot to add, that Ilkhanids could not be descendats of Gengis Khan,
similarly as rulers of Golden Horde, as Tołuy, father of Hulagu, is doubted to be a
true legit son of Ghengis. The only sure sons of the Temujin were Chagatay and
Ügedey, but their descendants live in Mongolia and China, and there should be
focused main research. Until there will be no sure and confirm result of these
two, then there will be always doubts, what hg of Gengis was.

[Kyp]

It is interesting.
So we have fictional C, probable R1b, and semi-proved O.
I say semi, as it is one result.

Jochi probably was R1a.

So, quite interesting family... :laugh:



When modern english writer write "direct descendant" - it has to be doubled or trippled checked.



I cannot wait.
The most interesting would be to know Achemenids, Parthians and Sassanids.
Some of them had remaining known issue at least centuries later.
At least Sassadnis until the late Middle Ages.

I doubt there will be on paper direct descendants of Achaemenids, Parthians and Sassandids though. Safavids and Timurids/Timur would definetly be possible.


And btw, I forgot to add, that Ilkhanids could not be descendats of Gengis Khan,
similarly as rulers of Golden Horde, as Tołuy, father of Hulagu, is doubted to be a
true legit son of Ghengis. The only sure sons of the Temujin were Chagatay and
Ügedey, but their descendants live in Mongolia and China, and there should be
focused main research. Until there will be no sure and confirm result of these
two, then there will be always doubts, what hg of Gengis was.

Yes true.


I have a close relative who has that Y-DNA and he is a descendant of one the Khan one the Khanates Caucasus that was established by Nadir Shah in mid 1700s.

Interesting, which Khanate? I think YDNA O exists in some Azerbaijanis from what I've seen.

[Proto-Shaman]

I guess they could be IE.

Your Mother was Indo-European. Your Father was a Turk.~ Indo-European Corded Sushi parties made it possible.

[Visitor_22]

I doubt there will be on paper direct descendants of Achaemenids, Parthians and Sassandids though. Safavids and Timurids/Timur would definetly be possible.


Descendents of Tamerlan and his Barlas tribe in India belong to C2 Starcluster. But they are not Chingisids.

[Visitor_22]

They tested a direct descendant of the mongol Khan in Iran.

Turned out he was: O-M175

"Mahmud Ghazan (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghazan) (5 November 1271 – 11 May 1304) (Mongolian: Газан хаан, Persian: غازان خان‎, Ghazan Khan, sometimes referred to as Casanus by Westerners[2]) was the seventh ruler of the Mongol Empire's Ilkhanate division in modern-day Iran from 1295 to 1304. He was the son of Arghun, grandson of Abaqa Khan and great-grandson of Hulagu Khan continuing a long line of rulers who were direct descendants of Genghis Khan."

This means Öljaitu (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%96ljait%C3%BC) was also O-M175.

Supposedly there is a study about multiple lineages of Khans & Shahs of Iran coming out in 2022.


Dayan Khan, direct descendent of Genghis Khan belongs to C2 M407 Haplogroup. Very commong in modern day Buryats.

[PaleoEuropean]

A lot of Mongols claimed to be descendants of Ghengis, I don't think we ever know his haplo.

[Rethel]

Dayan Khan, direct descendent of Genghis Khan belongs to C2 M407 Haplogroup. Very commong in modern day Buryats.

Such fraze on Wiki: "It is claimed that Batumongke was the son of " doesn't work too convinceable...