Estimate the genetic Blackness of Kamala Harris

[Leto]

How black/Sub-Saharan do you think the current Vice President elect Kamala Harris could be? Her father appears to have been a mixed Jamaican while her mother is 100% Tamil Indian.
I'd say she looks barely 40% SSA.

https://i.insider.com/5fa592c71df1d50018219564?width=1136&format=jpeg

[Chris596]

I'd say around 35-40% too.

Strange that they are promoting her as Asian too, while the term ,,Asian'' usually means specifically East-Asian in the USA, right? Not South Asian.

[El_Abominacion]

30-35%. This is her father, clearly has significant Euro admix

https://i.insider.com/5f3c3d44cdf25a001e84e023?width=600&format=jpeg&auto=webp



It's a shame people will run around calling her the 'first black female vice president' like how they called Obama the 'first black president'

[Norb]

she's black? I thought she was Northern European

[tipirneni]

30-35%. This is her father, clearly has significant Euro admix

https://i.insider.com/5f3c3d44cdf25a001e84e023?width=600&format=jpeg&auto=webp



It's a shame people will run around calling her the 'first black female vice president' like how they called Obama the 'first black president'

Some of the large well established Tamil families had big families, meaning multiple wives from different castes. So even though her Mothers Paternal Line is high caste Brahmin, there might be some decent unknown local mixup since these people where high officials for last 1500 years so had luxury of multiple local wives.

https://images.news18.com/ibnlive/uploads/2020/08/1597204198_untitled-design-2020-08-12t091730.744.png


https://imgk.timesnownews.com/story/Kamala_Harris_Tamil_family.jpeg?tr=w-400,h-300,fo-auto

[Nurzat]

she doesn't look Black, rather Latina

[Radimir]

She is a descendant of an Irish slave owner named Hamilton Brown, so that makes her of Irish, Indian and Black ancestry.

[Leto]

she's black? I thought she was Northern European
Yes, she's more English than you who still can't bring yourself to identify as ENGLISH

Ancestry
Unknown

[tipirneni]

Papuan like ancestry among South Indians
https://c8.alamy.com/comp/M0GHE6/india-tamil-nadu-chidambaram-portrait-of-three-tamil-women-M0GHE6.jpg

Very ancient Somali like among South Indian
https://previews.123rf.com/images/urfl/urfl1605/urfl160500346/57305207-a-tamil-women-works-at-a-tea-plantation-in-the-town-of-nuwara-eliya-in-sri-lanka-in-asien-.jpg

Mixedup ancient South Indian
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/32/SriLanka_TeaTamilWoman_%28pixinn.net%29.jpg

Relic ancient Andaman islanders have very small Anatolian

https://rapidiq.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/from-left-to-right-neremo-and-his-father-late-nao-junior_2006.jpg

None of the above is SSA but is different kind manifests around 5%

[Leto]

I'd say around 35-40% too.

Strange that they are promoting her as Asian too, while the term ,,Asian'' usually means specifically East-Asian in the USA, right? Not South Asian.
The Indians are part of the Asian American category. But yeah, that's stupid. No one called Obama a black AND white president. Yet she is somehow both Black and Asian. The more minority boxes you can check the better, so it seems.

[tipirneni]

The Indians are part of the Asian American category. But yeah, that's stupid. No one called Obama a black AND white president. Yet she is somehow both Black and Asian. The more minority boxes you can check the better, so it seems.

Her mothers Paternal line is high caste Brahmin. They have very high influence in Indian Policy and very high presence in Silicon Valley where atleast 2 out of 10 top CEOS are there. That is not a minority but a high attribute to check when sending resume

https://i0.wp.com/theunn.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Indian-CEOs-Lead-Big-US-Companies.jpg?fit=1024%2C780&ssl=1

The above diagram 5 out 10 Indian CEOS are Tamil Brahmin which shows the support they had initially from South Indians

[Norb]

Yes, she's more English than you who still can't bring yourself to identify as ENGLISH

READ my bio...

[Leto]

Her mothers Paternal line is high caste Brahmin. They have very high influence in Indian Policy and very high presence in Silicon Valley where atleast 2 out of 10 top CEOS are there. That is not a minority but a high attribute to check when sending resume
I think she cares more about her "black" side than Indian. Being Black today is the most attractive thing. There was even a South Indian guy in the U.S. who passed himself as Black in order to be admitted to college or something.

[tipirneni]

I think she cares more about her "black" side than Indian. Being Black today is the most attractive thing. There was even a South Indian guy in the U.S. who passed himself as Black in order to be admitted to college or something.

Yeah, there are some people who try to do that, but Main stream high caste Indians usually don't play cheap. They spend huge amount of money to try distinguish themselves from others. Tamil Brahmins are very conservative and highly educated so a sizeable majority (25%) have moved to USA.

[Leto]

Yeah, there are some people who try to do that, but Main stream high caste Indians usually don't play cheap. They spend huge amount of money to try distinguish themselves from others. Tamil Brahmins are very conservative and highly educated so a sizeable majority (25%) have moved to USA.
Are you one of them?
To me the Jatts and Northern Brahims are the best because they score the highest North_European :p

[tipirneni]

If you ever go to the top MBA schools like Chicago, Wharton, Kellog, Stanford etc.. you will find big percent Indian executives which shows how much they are willing to allocate time and money for their education

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/9e/b8/cf/9eb8cf1232bbaa25a26870b4db629162.png

[tipirneni]

Are you one of them?
To me the Jatts and Northern Brahims are the best because they score the highest North_European :p

Jatts are majority farmers but some of the ruling dynasties evolved from Yadu Kshatriyas and others are Naga origin and Northern Brahmins are all round caste meaning they do farming as well as studies. Whereas these Tamil Brahmins are 100% into Higher Education, High-Tech and Media

My caste is new caste called Kamma which evolved out of Yadu Kshatriyas mixed with Kamboj(meaning some Central Asian/E Iranic tribe) and Telugu/Tamil farmers. The Tamil Brahmins were priests for some of my group for a long time. Technically one of my Ancestor brought all of them into South India during Megalithic age.

H-Z5890 is present among a lot of ruling castes.

[Leto]

If you ever go to the top MBA schools like Chicago, Wharton, Kellog, Stanford etc.. you will find big percent Indian executives which shows how much they are willing to allocate time and money for their education

[img]https://i.pinimg.com/originals/9e/b8/cf/9eb8cf1232bbaa25a26870b4db629162.png
Dude, I got your point. You don't need to go to such great lengths praising Indians. This thread is not really about them. Kamala is not an immigrant from India herself, nor is she particularly brilliant as an individual.

[Cleitus]

15%-30% this is my last offer !

[Trouble]

Jatts are majority farmers but some of the ruling dynasties evolved from Yadu Kshatriyas and others are Naga origin and Northern Brahmins are all round caste meaning they do farming as well as studies. Whereas these Tamil Brahmins are 100% into Higher Education, High-Tech and Media

My caste is new caste called Kamma which evolved out of Yadu Kshatriyas mixed with Kamboj(meaning some Central Asian/E Iranic tribe) and Telugu/Tamil farmers. The Tamil Brahmins were priests for some of my group for a long time. Technically one of my Ancestor brought all of them into South India during Megalithic age.

H-Z5890 is present among a lot of ruling castes.

You are not. You have no steppe ancestry. You are a simple farmer.

[tipirneni]

You are not. You have no steppe ancestry. You are a simple farmer.

Not for you milkboy, You got to wet your hands in Cow urine and Cow dung, Buffalo dung etc...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCh_x8hJNME

[calxpal]

I think around 30%

[celticdragongod]

She is a descendant of an Irish slave owner named Hamilton Brown, so that makes her of Irish, Indian and Black ancestry.

Hamilton Brown isn't an Irish name. He was probably an Irish-born Brit.

[alnortedelsur]

she doesn't look Black, rather Latina

Only Caribbean Latina (a very black admixed one) but not as "typical Latina" from most of the rest of Latin America.

[Trouble]

Only Caribbean Latina (a very black admixed one) but not as "typical Latina" from most of the rest of Latin America.

Yeah...honestly she passes better as an Afram with above average Euro admixture. As in around 30-35% as opposed to 20%.

[War Chef]

33%

[JamesBond007]

33%

LULZ, not 30% but PRECISELY 33% ...hmmmm.

[War Chef]

LULZ, not 30% but PRECISELY 33% ...hmmmm.

33.6359% to be exact

I calculated the root integer with the derivative y axis

[JamesBond007]

33.6359% to be exact

I calculated the root integer with the derivative y axis


:rofl_002::rotfl::1127:

[Adamm]

30% max.

[Crn Volk]

she's black? I thought she was Northern European

Yes would easily fit in large parts of London

[Dick]

she's black? I thought she was Northern European

Her phenotype will soon be typical there.

[Roy]

35%

[Östsvensk]

Democrats founded the KKK and they still continue the tradition of applying laws used in the old times. Kamala Harris is the product of the one-drop rule, applying "Black" to anyone with any known admixture of black blood.


It goes without saying that in any particular person of Negrid-Europid
ancestry, the proportion of the Europid contribution may be great or small.
Unfortunately it is usual in the U.S.A. to apply the name of ‘Negro’ to
everyone who shows any evidence of a Negrid element in his ancestry, and this
practice is copied by British journalists when reporting American affairs. For
instance, the man shown in Fig. 30c was described as a Negro, without
qualification, in at least two nationally distributed British iiewspapers.[28,7251 It
is clear from the photograph that there is a Negrid element in his features, but
anyone with any knowledge of physical anthropology would know that this
man was a hybrid, and probably as much Europid as Negrid. A much more
extreme case is seen in Fig. 30 d; for this photograph gives no morphological
evidence of Negrid ancestry, yet the person depicted was described un¬
equivocally as a Negro in the article accompanying the photograph, which also
appeared in a nationally distributed British newspaper.[27]

- Race, J.Baker, 1974, p. 230-231

[Unknown European]

I think around 30%

If Blackness refer to SSA then I would say probably between 18-31% Black. Her mother is from India so no SSA should be suspected from there. Her father is from Jamaica where on average Jamaicans of African descent have a lower European component compared to the average United States African American but this does not seem to be the case in her father. From a public family tree it appears her father had 3 fully European great grandparents they are from her paternal grandfather who looks close to white passing but not fully white passing . Considering I could not predict the Euro admixture of her Paternal Grandmother Who based off an image appears to be able to pass as full SSA I would have to guess she is most likely at least 60+ percent SSA.

I am guessing Kamala is probably between 18 and 32% Black/SSA

[CommonSense]

I don't think she's more than 1/3 African.

[Jana]

In short, a fake black from priviledged background.

[PaleoEuropean]

less black than Bob Marley who was probably only like 30-40%

[El_Abominacion]

less black than Bob Marley who was probably only like 30-40%

Yeah Marley had a lot of caucasian features. I never saw him as typically 'black'

[PaleoEuropean]

Yeah Marley had a lot of caucasian features. I never saw him as typically 'black'

He his sons look a little blacker but not much.

[Unknown European]

Bob Marley has a white father or a white passing father

Bob's Paternal Grandfather was English from Sussex his name was Albert Thomas "Robert" Marley that is clear

Bob's Paternal Grandmother was Ellen Ann Bloomfield but the family claimed she was of Syrian Jewish origins I think she was probably of mixed but not necessarily with SSA ancestry but likely with SSA ancestry the surname could be English or Yiddish but Syrian Jewish would not make sense

A "wedding certificate for the marriage of Robert Marley [Bob's paternal grandfather] and Ellen Bloomfield [his paternal grandmother] lists him as 'white' and her as 'colored,' " "Later generations of the Marley family were unaware of Bloomfield's racial designation. She may have passed for white. Bob Marley would face grief all his life for being the offspring of black and white. . . . The truth was, the 'white' side of his family was racially mixed all along." So maybe she was mixed with a white like English and also SSA. and identified with something that could still be considered white like Syrian Jewish where a darker/atypical Northwest Euro appearance could be justified. If the family had assumed her as white then she was probably at most 3/8 SSA any higher it would probably be impossible to pass as White. Neither Bob Marley's father or Paternal uncle look atypical for someone being fully European I have yet to see a picture of Ellen Ann. if Bobs paternal grandmother was indeed mixed I would not think it is likely Bob could inherit anymore than 12% SSA through his father. So now Bob Marley is at most 62% SSA

Bob's Mother was Cedella Editha Booker (Malcolm) and looks to be passable as fully SSA as most black Jamaicans probably are. Some Black Jamaicans are fully SSA or near full enough where a European admixture can't be detected. In the United States this is very rare less then 1% probably. But of a 100 Jamaicans on AncestryDNA 8 did not score any European it is not a fairly good sample size but based off some other studies full SSA is uncommon in Jamaica but not very rare. It is possible his mom is full though more likely not. Probably somewhere between 60 and 100% SSA. Bob is almost certainly blacker than Kamala but he is no more then 2/3 black for sure

For Bob Marley he is probably between 30% and 60% if his father is not mixed probably between 30% and 50% Bob is almost certainly blacker then Kamala

[billsoncreole26]

She's mixed not black however her sister looks like she could pass as full Indian.

https://content.fortune.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/maya-l-harris.jpeg?w=801

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[Dark Snyper Lord 666]

How black/Sub-Saharan do you think the current Vice President elect Kamala Harris could be? Her father appears to have been a mixed Jamaican while her mother is 100% Tamil Indian.
I'd say she looks barely 40% SSA.

https://i.insider.com/5fa592c71df1d50018219564?width=1136&format=jpeg

It's even funnier when I've heard her putting on a forced "african-american" accent at public events. obama did the same thing, when he was 0% of historic pre-1900 african-american origin afaik.

[Roy]

She's mixed not black however her sister looks like she could pass as full Indian.

https://content.fortune.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/maya-l-harris.jpeg?w=801

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She looks distinctly SSA-influenced still.

[Roy]

In short, a fake black from priviledged background.

Yup. But now now some teachers from Bronx are desparately trying to pass her as one of their own. Will Kamala start rapping? That is the question.

[Lucas]

Her SSA is certainly less than 25%. It is sure for me. Her father was at least half white phenotypically.

Her Indian is not "black" in any genetic sense.

[Lucas]

Her SSA is certainly less than 25%. It is sure for me. Her father was at least half white phenotypically.

Her Indian is not "black" in any genetic sense.

[Leto]

She's mixed not black however her sister looks like she could pass as full Indian.

[IMG]https://content.fortune.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/maya-l-harris.jpeg?w=801

Maya Harris' daughter Meena (Kamala's niece) is heavily whitewashed, not black at all. Her father is unknown, no info on him but I presume he was white
https://aussiecelebs.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/Meena-Harris-696x394.jpg

[Leto]

Her SSA is certainly less than 25%. It is sure for me. Her father was at least half white phenotypically.

Her Indian is not "black" in any genetic sense.
25% sounds too low IMO. 35% maybe. I doubt her father is half white, more like 25-30%.

[Dark Snyper Lord 666]

Maya Harris' daughter Meena (Kamala's niece) is heavily whitewashed, not black at all. Her father is unknown, no info on him but I presume he was white
https://aussiecelebs.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/Meena-Harris-696x394.jpg

lol meghan merkel levels of "my blackness"

[Dark Snyper Lord 666]

Maya Harris' daughter Meena (Kamala's niece) is heavily whitewashed, not black at all. Her father is unknown, no info on him but I presume he was white
https://aussiecelebs.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/Meena-Harris-696x394.jpg

lol meghan merkel levels of "my blackness"

[billsoncreole26]

lol meghan merkel levels of "my blackness"Meghan Markle's SSA is quite apparent.

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[dududud]

She is not elected.

[aherne]

Probably 25% at most. Indian element dominates, but in profile you can see some Black admixture...

[axel.aleman]

35% parece cuarterona pigmentada latina pero la mezcla anglo es mas dominante sobre el SSA que la mediterranea

[aherne]

Father is Corded-Negroid mix, something you will rarely find in Latin America (simply because Corded is very rare in Iberians). She looks Indian-like (gypsy level: mostly Indian, but admixed)