Classify Motala man

[Dick]

Mesolithic man from southern Sweden. Haplogroup I2

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/c_fit,f_auto,fl_progressive,pg_1,q_80,w_470/ao4wilkbbx8t240hqzgr.jpg
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/content/dam/archaeologyandhistory/2020/06/ludvig-facial-reconstruction/01-facial-reconstruction-mystery-skull.jpg

[War Chef]

I read Motorola man haha

Anyway he looks like Paleo European

[Celto-Germanic]

Borreby? You can find a lot of Danes who look like that

https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/LCMCsYKBwWUvd63g2KsHB-1024-80.gif

[Proto-Shaman]

Interesting.

[Rethel]

Mesolithic man from southern Sweden. Haplogroup I2


It is this famous SHG crossbreed?

[Dick]

It is this famous SHG crossbreed?

Modelled as admixed between WHG and EHG

[Peterski]

Estonian-looking.

[Proto-Shaman]

It is this famous SHG crossbreed?
yes.

[Art23]

Borreby? You can find a lot of Danes who look like that


I think you can hardly find any Danes looking like him. Looks Eastern European.

[Dick]

I think you can hardly find any Danes looking like him. Looks Eastern European.


Estonian-looking.

Gives a Baltoid vibe imo. EHG were Baltic

[Rethel]

Modelled as admixed between WHG and EHG

One of the first OEs in IE skin...

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQlc6ZkMNR3pxi44cSRTz9RewFL7HnuB nJH7g&usqp=CAU

[Dick]

One of the first OEs in IE skin...

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQlc6ZkMNR3pxi44cSRTz9RewFL7HnuB nJH7g&usqp=CAU

There were no IE in Europe 8,000 years ago

[Rethel]

There were no IE in Europe 8,000 years ago

EHGs are IEs.

8000 years ago probbaly Europe didn't exist, so...

[Dick]

EHGs are IEs.

8000 years ago probbaly Europe didn't exist, so...

EHGs are attested to about 75% ANE. EHG on the Pontic/Capsian steppe mixed with CHG = Yamnaya.

[Celto-Germanic]

Gives a Baltoid vibe imo. EHG were Baltic

Why Baltid? What about him says baltid? Squinty eyes? Come on.


I think you can hardly find any Danes looking like him. Looks Eastern European.

No way. I personally know a lot of people who look like him. None of them are eastern euro.

[Peterski]

Why Baltid? What about him says baltid? Squinty eyes? Come on.

No way. I personally know a lot of people who look like him. None of them are eastern euro.

His sloping forehead and prominent cheekbones:

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/content/dam/archaeologyandhistory/2020/06/ludvig-facial-reconstruction/01-facial-reconstruction-mystery-skull.jpg

Anyway SHG like him were most similar to Estonians out of modern populations.

[Dick]

Why Baltid? What about him says baltid? Squinty eyes? Come on.



No way. I personally know a lot of people who look like him. None of them are eastern euro.

I said Balt-oid vibes but yeah he can pass in east or west no problem.

[Peterski]

I said Balt-oid vibes but yeah he can pass in east or west no problem.

In North-East and North-West.

[Celto-Germanic]

EHGs are attested to about 75% ANE. EHG on the Pontic/Capsian steppe mixed with CHG = Yamnaya.

There is a current study that makes a strong case that the IE languages came from EHGs not CHGs. I will try to find it

[Rethel]

EHGs are attested to about 75% ANE. EHG on the Pontic/Capsian steppe mixed with CHG = Yamnaya.

And what?

[Dick]

And what?

And a shot in the dark says the ANE spoke a proto-Yeniseian language akin to Mongolian or Turkic languages, nothing to do with Proto-IE.

[Rethel]

There is a current study that makes a strong case that the IE languages came from EHGs not CHGs. I will try to find it

There is no need for study even, as it is obvious, that this are the same people,
having R1, the same as Elshanka, Samara, Chwałyńsk, Yamna, Corderds aso...

[Rethel]

And a shot in the dark says the ANE spoke a proto-Yeniseian language akin to Mongolian or Turkic languages, nothing to do with Proto-IE.

And what? Negroes in America have 85% african au but speak english. Ba! 100% african people speak english in Africa. BUT even if they would originally speak yeniseyan (what is impossible, but let's say) then 1. these are still the same people, who just switched the language, 2. who then spoke IE and where - you have to have an idea and proof to claim that EHG spoke different language.

ANE is just an au of one castizo from far east,
thousands of miles away who was 50-65% EHG.
ANE is just a mix between EHG and AmerInd.

[Oliver109]

Looks like what he is, Cro Magnon, could pass in England tbh.

[Bmack]

He just looks scandinavian in the soft facial tissue. Probably they had a bias when they made the shape of his eyes, knowing he lived in scandinavia, those eyes look very scando.

[Lemminkäinen]

He looks like a Finnish heavy metal singer.

[Saiwalo]

Northern Finnish consturction sites are full of these guys.

[Östsvensk]

IMHO, looks more Finnish than Swedish. I've known Finns of Savonian extraction who looked eerily similar.

[Lemminkäinen]

IMHO, looks more Finnish than Swedish. I've known Finns of Savonian extraction who looked eerily similar.

Finnish heavy metal singers with pompous lyrics are usually East Finnish.

[Immanenz]

Borreby

[CommonSense]

Borreby

That's a common appearance in northern Europe even today

[Ford]

Looks like PaleoEuropean

[XenophobicPrussian]

Borreby, but reconstructions aren't accurate at all.

[Dick]

Borreby, but reconstructions aren't accurate at all.

What do you think of Cheddar Man's reconstruction?

[PaleoEuropean]

Stronk Borreby

[PaleoEuropean]

What do you think of Cheddar Man's reconstruction?

If you look at the skull it doesnt match at all, cheddar man was quite robust

[PaleoEuropean]

^^^
Look at the chin especially

[PaleoEuropean]

Mesolithic man from southern Sweden. Haplogroup I2

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I feel like I am looking at myself 25 years into the future

[Dick]

I feel like I am looking at myself 25 years into the future

Lol thought you right away when I saw it

[PaleoEuropean]

Lol thought you right away when I saw it

I am about the same mix as him but with 20% indo-european, I am like 40% WHG 40% Farmer