View Full Version : Kyp's 23andme results (disappointed)
Very disappointed:
- I didn't even get regions for my German ancestry
- No French, no Eastern European.
- No Iranian region from where I have actual paper-trail ancestry
https://i.imgur.com/NgJa5XH.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/atrEDLu.png
https://i.imgur.com/qiC3Ics.png
Ydna: R-Z2122
Mtdna: H1b (if anyone has information on it please share) H1b: found especially in Eastern Europe, Central Asia and North Asia / found in Bell Beaker Germany, and in Bronze Age Latvia and Russia (Fatyanovo culture)
Are there any other H1bs on TA?
Ultimately I cannot recommend testing with 23andme. Traits also were rather lackluster and not correct a lot of times. At least I know my Mtdna now.
Dodecadk12b:
Gedrosian: 13.18
Siberian: 2.49
Northwest_African: 0.53
Southeast_Asian: 0.01
Atlantic_Med: 20.55
North_European: 29.48
South_Asian 2.28
East_African 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 4.50
East_Asian: 1.49
Caucasian: 25.48
Sub_Saharan: 0.00
Distance to: Kyp23
6.25942489 Turk_Deliorman
7.73633634 Turk_Trakya
8.71804451 MD_Gagauz
9.64777695 Turk_Makedonya
9.71573981 Bulgarian_East
10.09681138 Greek_Macedonia
10.70166809 Bulgarian_Central
10.92304445 MD_South
11.02090287 Pomak
11.06472774 Bulgarian_Thrace
11.18887841 Bulgarian_West
11.73242089 Romanian
11.97135748 Macedonian
13.04086654 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
13.27092310 Greek_Thessaly
13.47514007 Montenegrin
13.49604016 Greek_Thrace
13.56405175 Albanian_Kosovo
13.62256951 Greek_Thessaloniki
13.82679283 Albanian_North
13.85040072 MD_Center
14.47507513 Greek_Peloponnese
15.26970203 Serb
15.52669958 HUN_Szekely
16.17512597 Greek_Central
Using 2 populations approximation
1 50% German + 50% Azerbaijani_Turkey @ 2,744
2 50% German + 50% Azerbaijani_Iran @ 3,234
3 50% Azerbaijani + 50% German @ 3,263
4 50% German + 50% Talysh_Azerbaijan @ 4,058
5 50% German + 50% Talysh_Azerbaijan @ 4,058
6 50% Turk_Ahiska + 50% Norwegian @ 4,307
7 50% German + 50% Zaza @ 4,408
8 50% Turk_Southeast + 50% German @ 4,481
9 50% Circassian + 50% Mixed_Germanic @ 4,485
10 50% German + 50% Kurd_Kurmanji @ 4,488
Using 4 populations approximation
1 25% German + 25% German + 25% Turkmens + 25% Turk_East_Black_Sea @ 2,009
2 25% German + 25% German + 25% Turkmens + 25% Greek_Pontus @ 2,217
3 25% German + 25% German + 25% Turkmens + 25% Turk_Ahiska @ 2,293
4 25% German + 25% German + 25% Turkmens + 25% Hemshin @ 2,336
5 25% German + 25% German + 25% Turkmens + 25% Laz @ 2,381
6 25% German + 25% German + 25% Azerbaijani_Turkey + 25% Azerbaijani_Turkey @ 2,536
7 25% German + 25% German + 25% Turkmens + 25% Armenian_East @ 2,669
8 25% German + 25% German + 25% Azerbaijani_Turkey + 25% Azerbaijani_Iran @ 2,717
9 25% German + 25% German + 25% Turkmens + 25% Turk_East @ 2,770
10 25% Gagauz + 25% Gagauz + 25% Pomak + 25% Tajiks @ 2,825
reboun
12-04-2020, 07:33 AM
I think 23andme is overrated.
So shitty, sorry to see this Kyp! 23andme is going down in quality rather quickly honestly, they worsened their product and only became more money hungry.
I think 23andme is overrated.
Very, especially since their current V5 raw data is worst on the market as well.
Quite primitive indeed. Pretty much half Kraut. No Mongoloid or Central Asian traces? What about your subclade, any specific location?
Kaspias
12-04-2020, 07:40 AM
Well, at least they figured out your 50/50.
What are the other regions?
Quite primitive indeed. Pretty much half Kraut. No Mongoloid or Central Asian traces? What about your subclade, any specific location?
No. Just Western Turkish provinces. Trace is Northern Indian & Pakistani. Paternal subclade Eastern Europe/Caucasus/West Asia. Maternal subclade Eastern Europe & Siberia according to Wikipedia.
Well, at least they figured out your 50/50.
What are the other regions?
Semnan, Iran (where part of our family was relocated) but I do not have ancestry from there, just relatives. Same goes for Tehran.
Anatolia: Ankara & Sivas
So shitty, sorry to see this Kyp! 23andme is going down in quality rather quickly honestly, they worsened their product and only became more money hungry.
Yeah sucks to be honest. Was looking forward to the European regional breakdown. But atleast I know my mtdna now.
No. Just Western Turkish provinces. Trace is Northern Indian & Pakistani. Paternal subclade Eastern Europe/Caucasus/West Asia. Maternal subclade Eastern Europe & Siberia according to Wikipedia.
I see. Now all you can do is try good ol' GED with this new data for the fun of it :D You can simply use the Studio without even having to upload the data again.
Semnan, Iran (where part of our family was relocated) but I do not have ancestry from there, just relatives. Same goes for Tehran.
Anatolia: Ankara & Sivas
The Republic of Aliyev is totally missing, lol xD :picard1:
Kaspias
12-04-2020, 07:49 AM
Semnan, Iran (where part of our family was relocated) but I do not have ancestry from there, just relatives. Same goes for Tehran.
Anatolia: Ankara & Sivas
Sivas is the city that has most Alevi population in Turkey AFAIK. It could be a good catch.
Sivas is the city that has most Alevi population in Turkey AFAIK. It could be a good catch.
Ankara also has Afshar population or do you think it's just the basic West Anatolian region?
Do you think you have ancestry from present-day Turkey that is younger than 500 years?
Demhat
12-04-2020, 07:58 AM
23andMe is still the most, if not at least one of the most accurate test out there. Them not breaking your regions further down in specific regions does not have to be negative. Better they don't break it further down much at all instead of breaking it down incorrectly.
Do you think you have ancestry from present-day Turkey that is younger than 500 years?
I think it's about 500 years old. But yes it looks like my tribe is from Anatolians rather than local Azerbaijani. 23andme says it's likely that I have a third to six great-grandparent that was 100% Anatolian. But my ancestry is very complex so I think it's wrong.
https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-Z2122/
Quite a few Russians, Poles and Germans but also two individuals from Southern Azerbaijan as well as three Kuwaitis. Only one Anatolian Turk from Samsun.
Kaspias
12-04-2020, 08:04 AM
Ankara also has Afshar population or do you think it's just the basic West Anatolian region?
A great amount of rural population in Ankara is Afshar. Yet urban has 5m population who the most are from all over Turkey. In conclusion it depends on samples they collected.
A great amount of rural population in Ankara is Afshar. Yet urban has 5m population who the most are from all over Turkey. In conclusion it depends on samples they collected.
Would you conclude that my turkish element is from Anatolia or do you think the regional breakdown is still too rudimentary?
The Republic of Aliyev is totally missing, lol xD :picard1:
It's most of the time missing in North Azerbaijani results too. What's more strange is that Iranian Azerbaijan is missing. On the other hand West Anatolian regions are not common in Iran/Azerbaijan.
Chris596
12-04-2020, 08:28 AM
Wow this is unusual indeed. My results are about to be ready around Christmas. I don't expect too much, I just hope they break down my ancestry like 50% Hungary (Eastern Europe) and 50% Romania (Greek & Balkan) or something like this. Maybe it will also disappoint me, maybe it will be a surprise, I don't really know.
But congratulations anyway! :)
I see. Now all you can do is try good ol' GED with this new data for the fun of it :D You can simply use the Studio without even having to upload the data again.
This is something that I want to try again with my new data once I have it.
Edit: after the 95.2% Balkan on Myheritage, nothing can really disappoint me :rolleyes:
Oh man... and I just sent mine in the mail. I’m not expecting rlly anything specific tbh. It’ll probably say my region is Azores like every Portuguese lol. At least for ancestrydna it pinpointed me as central-southern mainland Portugal
I see. Now all you can do is try good ol' GED with this new data for the fun of it :D You can simply use the Studio without even having to upload the data again.
Gedrosian: 13.18
Siberian: 2.49
Northwest_African: 0.53
Southeast_Asian: 0.01
Atlantic_Med: 20.55
North_European: 29.48
South_Asian 2.28
East_African 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 4.50
East_Asian: 1.49
Caucasian: 25.48
Sub_Saharan: 0.00
Distance to: Kyp23
6.25942489 Turk_Deliorman
7.73633634 Turk_Trakya
8.71804451 MD_Gagauz
9.64777695 Turk_Makedonya
9.71573981 Bulgarian_East
10.09681138 Greek_Macedonia
10.70166809 Bulgarian_Central
10.92304445 MD_South
11.02090287 Pomak
11.06472774 Bulgarian_Thrace
11.18887841 Bulgarian_West
11.73242089 Romanian
11.97135748 Macedonian
13.04086654 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
13.27092310 Greek_Thessaly
13.47514007 Montenegrin
13.49604016 Greek_Thrace
13.56405175 Albanian_Kosovo
13.62256951 Greek_Thessaloniki
13.82679283 Albanian_North
13.85040072 MD_Center
14.47507513 Greek_Peloponnese
15.26970203 Serb
15.52669958 HUN_Szekely
16.17512597 Greek_Central
Using 2 populations approximation
1 50% German + 50% Azerbaijani_Turkey @ 2,744
2 50% German + 50% Azerbaijani_Iran @ 3,234
3 50% Azerbaijani + 50% German @ 3,263
4 50% German + 50% Talysh_Azerbaijan @ 4,058
5 50% German + 50% Talysh_Azerbaijan @ 4,058
6 50% Turk_Ahiska + 50% Norwegian @ 4,307
7 50% German + 50% Zaza @ 4,408
8 50% Turk_Southeast + 50% German @ 4,481
9 50% Circassian + 50% Mixed_Germanic @ 4,485
10 50% German + 50% Kurd_Kurmanji @ 4,488
Kaspias
12-04-2020, 08:46 AM
Would you conclude that my turkish element is from Anatolia or do you think the regional breakdown is still too rudimentary?
It is actually not rudimentary but based on individuals they have. Ankara is overpopulated. That's why I considered Sivas as a good catch. I don't think it is just a random assignment.
There are various types of mobilities in history between Azerbaijan and Western Turks. Such a match either should point out you have something to do with them in terms of relativity, or your origin is directly from there. Historical registers of your tribe point out the second option.
So shitty, sorry to see this Kyp! 23andme is going down in quality rather quickly honestly, they worsened their product and only became more money hungry.
"H1b: found especially in Eastern Europe, Central Asia and North Asia / found in Bell Beaker Germany, and in Bronze Age Latvia and Russia (Fatyanovo culture)"
"H1b: found especially in Eastern Europe, Central Asia and North Asia / found in Bell Beaker Germany, and in Bronze Age Latvia and Russia (Fatyanovo culture)"
Wendish mtdna?
Edit: after the 95.2% Balkan on Myheritage, nothing can really disappoint me :rolleyes:
Except that Myheritage is getting big update before New Year, and offers much better raw data quality for much less money.
catgeorge
12-04-2020, 09:22 AM
23and me or bust.... there is absolute no comparison in quality. Don't even bother anything else if you are thinking of getting a test... and keep away from biased creepy calculators and wannabe geneticists.
Chris596
12-04-2020, 09:44 AM
Except that Myheritage is getting big update before New Year, and offers much better raw data quality for much less money.
Yes, I'm curious about the new MH update. I will be surprised if it will match the accuracy of 23andme, let alone if it surpasses it (but I doubt that).
So Kyp, your mom is full German, right? And your dad is Iranian Turkmen to be precise?
Yes, I'm curious about the new MH update. I will be surprised if it will match the accuracy of 23andme, let alone if it surpasses it (but I doubt that).
So Kyp, your mom is full German, right? And your dad is Iranian Turkmen to be precise?
My father is Azerbaijani from Iran
Yes, I'm curious about the new MH update. I will be surprised if it will match the accuracy of 23andme, let alone if it surpasses it (but I doubt that).
New 23andme isn't very good at all, Kyp is actually lucky to get 50-50 split. TheMaestro is 80% or 90% Balkan according to them, and he is half Hungarian from Slovakia.
Also, 23andme is doing extreme smoothing which means they will exeggerate your predominant ancestry and erase your minor ones thus people will come out artificaly purer or more monoethnic than they are.
Let's see how will your results go, wish you luck ofc!
New 23andme isn't very good at all, Kyp is actually lucky to get 50-50 split. TheMaestro is 80% or 90% Balkan according to them, and he is half Hungarian from Slovakia.
Also, 23andme is doing extreme smoothing which means they will exeggerate your predominant ancestry and erase your minor ones thus people will come out artificaly purer or more monoethnic than they are.
Let's see how will your results go, wish you luck ofc!
I also didn't get any trace Central Asian despite being 3-4%Mong on Gedmatch.
Chris596
12-04-2020, 09:59 AM
New 23andme isn't very good at all, Kyp is actually lucky to get 50-50 split. TheMaestro is 80% or 90% Balkan according to them, and he is half Hungarian from Slovakia.
Also, 23andme is doing extreme smoothing which means they will exeggerate your predominant ancestry and erase your minor ones thus people will come out artificaly purer or more monoethnic than they are.
Let's see how will your results go, wish you luck ofc!
Thanks! :)
There's one thing that I've learned this year, after trying out tons of calculators, admixture softwares, G25, etc, which is:
- 23andme is (in my opinion) still the best company if you want to find out your recent ancestry and the actual regions where your ancestors came from, no other software or company (except like AncestryDNA I think) can do this at the moment. Of course, this doesn't work for everyone, but usually they nail it.
- another thing, which is more personal, that despite I'm Hungarian (half Szekely and half Hungarian), I score almost like a full Serb and I even have many South Slavic matches on GEDmatch and Myheritage. This is why I was hella curious to do 23andme, to see if they show other countries like Serbia because I have a feeling... you know? And my maternal great grandfather was born in southeast Hungary, close to where the modern Serbian border is today.
And of course to find out other minor things like mtDNA, traits, etc. which 23andme offers
I also didn't get any trace Central Asian despite being 3-4%Mong on Gedmatch.
Neither east euro! It's very strange how you got no German regions as well, you are half actual German from Germany and most Amerimutts who are minor part German got them.
Very weird. In my 23andme me French and German went down from 12% to 1%, with new update for old chips it will probably go down to 0. Dissapointing.
But to offer you some comfort, when Stears tested on V5 he initialy got no regions in Romania either. With update he got a lot.
You will probably get German and more detailed west Asian regions with next update.
Ion Basescul
12-04-2020, 10:30 AM
They split it perfectly. You are probably not an exact 50/50 split because of how segment inheritance works.
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Benyzero
12-04-2020, 11:12 AM
Well, they confirmed what you already knew lol
Negah
12-04-2020, 11:13 AM
Very disappointed:
- I didn't even get regions for my German ancestry
- No French, no Eastern European.
- No Iranian region from where I have actual paper-trail ancestry
That is because none of your DNA REALTIVES grandparents ( that is the furthest 23andme asks its clients) are from those regions and who are closely related to you has been tested by 23andme.
So you have close DNA relatives on 23andme whose grandparents are from Tehran, Mardin, and one more region. Plus Ankara and one more region tested on 23andme.
It seems to me all the tools on 23andme and for that matter, all the tools that we have are very limited.
Negah
12-04-2020, 11:15 AM
Semnan, Iran (where part of our family was relocated) but I do not have ancestry from there, just relatives. Same goes for Tehran.
Anatolia: Ankara & Sivas
23andme only asks for your grandparent's place of birth, if they were born in Tehran then to them that is where you are from.
edit: Also to answer these questions is not mandatory. So many people may not even answer them which makes their tool even more flawed.
23andme is getting shitty day by day. I guess it only suits for White Americans, Carribeans and Latinos
23andme only asks for your grandparent's place of birth, if they were born in Tehran then to them that is where you are from.
edit: Also to answer these questions is not mandatory. So many people may not even answer them which makes their tool even more flawed.
Yes that makes sense, a large part of our tribe lives in Tehran and Western Semnan. Maybe Zanjan samples are limited.
Kaspias
12-04-2020, 11:42 AM
@Kyp
I wonder how many matches you got in 23andme. I'm managing 5 kits there, and except me, everyone gets 900+ matches plus many region assignments.
I have 344 and got no region. I wonder if it is about being mixed or coming from an isolated society.
Luke35
12-04-2020, 11:46 AM
Very simplistic, that is most definitely a bummer man. Hopefully with the next update, you get more regions assigned, but that's not much consolation I know.
@Kyp
I wonder how many matches you got in 23andme. I'm managing 5 kits there, and except me, everyone gets 900+ matches plus many region assignments.
I have 344 and got no region. I wonder if it is about being mixed or coming from an isolated society.
I have 1500. (82% share German & French ancestry.)
gixajo
12-04-2020, 11:53 AM
No. Just Western Turkish provinces. Trace is Northern Indian & Pakistani. Paternal subclade Eastern Europe/Caucasus/West Asia. Maternal subclade Eastern Europe & Siberia according to Wikipedia.
You can try now Morley´s Predictor and Yseq Cladefinder with the 23andMe raw data, I doubt they give you a more specific clade of your Z2122 but, who knows...
https://ytree.morleydna.com/
https://cladefinder.yseq.net/
Didn´t offer 23andMe the option to see previous versions of its ethnic estimations? As they have already told you, at least they find out quite well your 50% German/50% West Asia admixture.
Kaspias
12-04-2020, 11:56 AM
You can try now Morley´s Predictor and Yseq Cladefinder with the 23andMe raw data, I doubt they give you a more specific clade od your Z2122 but, who knows...
https://ytree.morleydna.com/
https://cladefinder.yseq.net/
Didn´t offer 23andMe the option to see previous versions of its ethnic estimations? As they have already told you, at least they find out quite well your 50% German/50% West Asia admixture.
Yes, that's a good idea. You may realize you're negative for some SNPs under Z2122.
Please post the screenshot of Morley.
El_Abominacion
12-04-2020, 12:04 PM
Thanks for sharing
This result doesn’t look inaccurate, just simplistic. Though they should’ve broken down your German ancestry into regions
You can try now Morley´s Predictor and Yseq Cladefinder with the 23andMe raw data, I doubt they give you a more specific clade od your Z2122 but, who knows...
https://ytree.morleydna.com/
https://cladefinder.yseq.net/
Didn´t offer 23andMe the option to see previous versions of its ethnic estimations? As they have already told you, at least they find out quite well your 50% German/50% West Asia admixture.
Yes, that's a good idea. You may realize you're negative for some SNPs under Z2122.
Please post the screenshot of Morley.
https://i.imgur.com/5ApUMri.png
Will do Yseq later when I have time
Dr_Maul
12-04-2020, 01:04 PM
Good result Kyp, seems relatively accurate besides Western Turkey which I have not seen in Azeris before
I would not really pay much attention to regions, I got 5 with only having roots in one of them, and not even a weak match on my maternal province.... Maybe because you are recently nomadic, it might be skewed due to Azerbaijans largely urban pop?
Unfortunate about your lack of Central Asia, probably drowned out because of you only being half West Asian, considering even I got 4.9% despite having half your East Eurasian
Kaspias
12-04-2020, 01:27 PM
https://i.imgur.com/5ApUMri.png
Will do Yseq later when I have time
It says you're negative for CTS6 which is actually an Azerbaijani clade. Interesting...
So the possible subclades:
1- https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-Y49/
2- https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-Y38987/
3- https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-F2935/
4- https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-YP5484/
It says you're negative for CTS6 which is actually an Azerbaijani clade. Interesting...
So the possible subclades:
1- https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-Y49/
2- https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-Y38987/
3- https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-F2935/
4- https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-YP5484/
Strange... I excpected to be under the Iranian/Azerbaijani one
xripkan
12-04-2020, 02:08 PM
Strange... I excpected to be under this one
Very possibly you are R-F1019<R-F2935. This clade has been found in Balkars,a Balkan Turk and a Kazakh. It has been found among Tian Shan Huns. It seems a clade of Western Turkic khaganate.
gixajo
12-04-2020, 02:24 PM
Cladefinder results use to be more clear.
It says you're negative for CTS6 which is actually an Azerbaijani clade. Interesting...
So the possible subclades:
1- https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-Y49/
2- https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-Y38987/
3- https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-F2935/
4- https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-YP5484/
Cladefinder results use to be more clear.
It gets even weirder: all negative on Cladefinder except:
https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-Y49 (R-Y57 negative too)
https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-Y38987/ (no negatives)
prediction was basic R-Z2122 too
Slavic Italian
12-04-2020, 04:06 PM
I got 2.4% German and they gave me a region.
Kaspias
12-04-2020, 05:08 PM
It gets even weirder: all negative on Cladefinder except:
https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-Y49 (R-Y57 negative too)
https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-Y38987/ (no negatives)
prediction was basic R-Z2122 too
So you're either in:
https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-BY149647/
or
https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-Y38987/
We can not favor either of the two. Also based on TMRCA's there is a chance that you may create a new clade under them.
Using 4 populations approximation
1 25% German + 25% German + 25% Turkmens + 25% Turk_East_Black_Sea @ 2,009
2 25% German + 25% German + 25% Turkmens + 25% Greek_Pontus @ 2,217
3 25% German + 25% German + 25% Turkmens + 25% Turk_Ahiska @ 2,293
4 25% German + 25% German + 25% Turkmens + 25% Hemshin @ 2,336
5 25% German + 25% German + 25% Turkmens + 25% Laz @ 2,381
6 25% German + 25% German + 25% Azerbaijani_Turkey + 25% Azerbaijani_Turkey @ 2,536
7 25% German + 25% German + 25% Turkmens + 25% Armenian_East @ 2,669
8 25% German + 25% German + 25% Azerbaijani_Turkey + 25% Azerbaijani_Iran @ 2,717
9 25% German + 25% German + 25% Turkmens + 25% Turk_East @ 2,770
10 25% Gagauz + 25% Gagauz + 25% Pomak + 25% Tajiks @ 2,825
altaic
12-04-2020, 05:55 PM
This update is really weird honestly in some way to another. Below is my response when I got the update. Before the update, I had higher Anatolian than my parents. After the update, they still have Anatolian but I do not have anymore.
(I think it is because I tested before and my parents tested few months later, that is why I had the highest Anatolian in the first place, I am assuming)
Anyway; I have Altaic East Asian in me haha :cool:
My 18.9% Anatolian (Western Turkey) all added up to Caucasia/Mesopotamia (Eastern Turkey). No more Anatolian for me lol. 0.8% Scandinavian turned out to 1% Eastern European. 0.8% Broadly East Asian became 0.5% Korean and 0.4% Indonesian :)
My parents still have around 5-10% Anatolian. It is weird that I do not have any Anatolian from them! It seems these results are gonna change soon again...
My dad 0.8% Central Asian and 0.4% Broadly East Asian replaced with 0.9% East Asian. Besides, he has 'likely' Iran regions (East Azerbaijan and Tehran), before it was 'possible'. He has also same 'possible' Iraq regions (Nineveh and Baghdad).
Cheers and have a fruitful weekend!
https://i.ibb.co/yfXMBhb/update.jpg
Older version:
https://i.imgur.com/pOLDkwu.png
Good result Kyp, seems relatively accurate besides Western Turkey which I have not seen in Azeris before
I would not really pay much attention to regions, I got 5 with only having roots in one of them, and not even a weak match on my maternal province.... Maybe because you are recently nomadic, it might be skewed due to Azerbaijans largely urban pop?
Unfortunate about your lack of Central Asia, probably drowned out because of you only being half West Asian, considering even I got 4.9% despite having half your East Eurasian
I have to assume the Central Asian went into the Turkish component, as you can see on the older version I score 3.9% Central Asian.
Older version:
https://i.imgur.com/pOLDkwu.png
How did you get your old version when you just got tested?
Your mtdna is most likely from Western European hunter-gatherers, it's been found in several HG from Iberia and in one HG from Germany and then in many Middle Neolithic samples throughout Western and Central Europe.
How did you get your old version when you just got tested?
Your mtdna is most likely from Western European hunter-gatherers, it's been found in several HG from Iberia and in one HG from Germany and then in many Middle Neolithic samples throughout Western and Central Europe.
Thank you for the information on the mtdna! Sounds interesting.
I can see my old results when I compare my results to a match that hasn't got updated results yet.
https://i.imgur.com/pOLDkwu.png
Thank you for the information on the mtdna! Sounds interesting.
I can see my old results when I compare my results to a match that hasn't got updated results yet.
https://i.imgur.com/pOLDkwu.png
Ah I see, so there are still people with no update.
And scratch that about your mtdna, I just noticed some of the supposedly HG H1b are from old and probably unreliable studies. To me it looks like more of a lineage spread with farming.
Ah I see, so there are still people with no update.
And scratch that about your mtdna, I just noticed some of the supposedly HG H1b are from old and probably unreliable studies. To me it looks like more of a lineage spread with farming.
Found this on H1b:
https://i.imgur.com/U3XbCUb.png
Found this on H1b:
https://i.imgur.com/U3XbCUb.png
Try this
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?290263-Mtdna-locator-map
So you're either in:
https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-BY149647/
or
https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-Y38987/
We can not favor either of the two. Also based on TMRCA's there is a chance that you may create a new clade under them.
I found out a rare clade of BY48287 is also a possibilty as there has been one found in an Iranian Azerbaijani. This seems most likely. Also in an Armenian from Sereflikochisar (at least he's listed in the Armenian DNA project)
uploaded to Myheritage:
Scandinavian
20.2%
Irish, Scottish, and Welsh
11.4%
East Europen
12.7%
Greek and South Italian
6.2%
West Asian
47.4%
Central Asian:
2.1%
Abriekman
12-12-2020, 10:03 AM
uploaded to Myheritage:
Scandinavian
20.2%
Irish, Scottish, and Welsh
11.4%
East Europen
12.7%
Greek and South Italian
6.2%
West Asian
47.4%
Central Asian:
2.1%
Could you share how does your 23andme chromosome painting look like?
Could you share how does your 23andme chromosome painting look like?
sure:
https://i.imgur.com/uI2zayS.jpg
Mejgusu
12-17-2020, 11:39 AM
Semnan, Iran (where part of our family was relocated) but I do not have ancestry from there, just relatives. Same goes for Tehran.
Anatolia: Ankara & Sivas
Idk about statistics and nowadays situation, but my mother comes from a district where nearly everyone was originally from Central Anatolia, especially from neighboring cities like Kirikkale, Cankiri, Kirsehir, Yozgat, Aksaray and Corum, Alevi-Sunni mixed. This couldn’t be representative for whole Ankara, but i think most people there came from Central Anatolia. So even if those Ankara samples weren’t native there i think the possibility that they were from Central Anatolia is high. And if that is based on native people, that wouldn’t be surprising, rural Ankara villages are mostly descendants of Bozulus, Dulkadirs and Danishmends which were probably more Iranic shifted.
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