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Rafael Passoni
12-06-2020, 06:17 AM
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I used MyHeritage Raw data (results in my other post) and I uploaded using cladefinder.

Thank-you very much.

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Rethel
12-06-2020, 06:32 AM
Hi IE bro!

That's: https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-L2/

Rafael Passoni
12-06-2020, 06:40 AM
I'm sorry. I'm retarded. They showed only a map and an amount of numbers and letters (maybe a code), I don't understood nothing about it. Can you help me? I only understood I'm R-L2. What it means?

I think I'm in this position:

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Rethel
12-06-2020, 06:46 AM
I'm sorry. I'm retarded. They showed only a map and an amount of numbers and letters (maybe a code), I don't understood nothing about it. Can you help me? I only understood I'm R-L2. What it means?

Numbers are descriptions of markers and SNPs - i.e. genetic characteristic features which places you where you are.

Your particular final marker (but you can dig further of course) is at now L2. It means, that you belong
to the branch which is a subbranch of R haplogroup, particularly western branch of R1b, and much more
particular branch of this: https://cache.eupedia.com/images/content/Haplogroup-R1b-S28.gif.

Here, your clade is at the bottom: https://www.eupedia.com/images/content/R1b-tree.png

Shortly speaking, you are just an Indoeuropean from italo-gaulish area. And this is most important. Period.

Rafael Passoni
12-06-2020, 06:52 AM
Wow, interesting. I think this map shows the origin of my Y-DNA.

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Thank you very much.

So, I think now I can join up to the group "Indoeuropeans", maybe. I don't know.

Rethel
12-06-2020, 06:55 AM
Wow, interesting. I think this map shows the origin of my Y-DNA.

Nope. It's missinformation.


So, I think now I can join up to the group "Indoeuropeans"

Yep.

Btw, where and when are you from?

Ethel
12-06-2020, 06:59 AM
You're R1b-L2, which is inside the famous R1b-U152 Italo-Gaulish family, it's a cool subclade and it's very alpine/northern italian. You'll find plenty of articles, studies and discussions about it, unlike some of us whose subclade's are utterly forgotten.
Welp it's a R1b's world I guess :coffee:

Here you can see a heatmap depicting the distribution specifically for L2+
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/765042614784360459/785051738414645248/unknown.png

Rafael Passoni
12-06-2020, 07:03 AM
I'm a mix of Italian (mainly), Spaniard (important) and Scottish (a great-great grandmother). But my DNA results showed this:

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So I think I'm Greek and I have no Scottish.

Rafael Passoni
12-06-2020, 07:07 AM
Thank you Ethel, I'll change it in my profile. I wish know as all you TA members know.
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Leto
12-06-2020, 07:17 AM
Did you use the Morley predictor?

Luso
12-06-2020, 07:23 AM
Congrats!

here is a thread full of R-L21's : https://anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?13934-R-L2

Rethel
12-06-2020, 07:32 AM
I'm a mix of Italian (mainly), Spaniard (important) and Scottish (a great-great grandmother). But my DNA results showed this:

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So I think I'm Greek and I have no Scottish.

It doesn't matter.

I asked about your own personal provenance in the context of hg. Cognates are irrelevant here.

Rafael Passoni
12-08-2020, 05:22 AM
Morley:
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Is it a different result?

Ethel
12-08-2020, 06:11 AM
Morley:
104437

Is it a different result?

Yes, it's a different subclade, but still inside R1b-U152 family.
I think the cladefinder result is more reliable since it's more up to date than morley.