G25 Updated Moderns

[Grace O'Malley]

Just pointing this out to people that might be interested but I noticed when looking at the G25 and my closest populations that Denmark is now much closer than it was. I wondered if there was some changes to the dataset and sure enough there has been a significant increase in the Danish samples.

Here are my closest populations now.

Distance to: Grace_scaled
0.01848790 Irish
0.01914452 Icelandic
0.01963632 Scottish
0.01980300 Orcadian
0.02067727 Danish
0.02206228 English
0.02219810 Welsh
0.02336456 Norwegian
0.02454052 English_Cornwall
0.02458960 Dutch
0.02493577 Shetlandic
0.02678893 Swedish
0.02758167 French_Brittany
0.03333011 German
0.03777837 Afrikaner
0.04070340 Belgian
0.04111373 French_Seine-Maritime
0.04124589 French_Pas-de-Calais
0.04377645 German_East
0.04383614 French_Nord
0.04754192 Austrian
0.04759052 French_Alsace
0.04761548 French_Paris
0.04816810 Czech
0.05029695 Swiss_German

This is an older result with fewer Danish samples.

Distance to: Grace
0.01875615 Irish
0.01914452 Icelandic
0.01963632 Scottish
0.01976571 Welsh
0.01980300 Orcadian
0.02206228 English
0.02336456 Norwegian
0.02359022 French_Brittany
0.02454052 English_Cornwall
0.02458960 Dutch
0.02493577 Shetlandic
0.02659290 Swedish
0.03333011 German
0.04020730 Danish
0.04070340 Belgian
0.04377645 German_East
0.04754192 Austrian
0.04816810 Czech
0.04996556 French_East
0.05029695 Swiss_German
0.05030385 French
0.05444134 Hungarian
0.05850351 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige_o
0.06055514 Slovenian
0.06076095 Slovakian
0.06099953 Croatian
0.06462540 Polish

I thought Davidski was doing away with the modern populations so I'm pleased that there have been some changes.

If anyone else notices any changes please add or post your results.

[Thracian]

I bolded new ones,

Distance to: Thracian_scaled
0.02773576 Turkish_Rumeli
0.03176017 Turkish_Deliorman
0.03922165 Gagauz
0.03989952 Rumelia_East
0.04243246 Greek_Central_Macedonia
0.04508945 Bulgarian
0.04522904 Greek_Macedonia
0.04661914 Turkish_Istanbul
0.04681872 Albanian
0.04683261 Greek_Peloponnese
0.04782238 Greek_Thessaly
0.04842110 Greek_Izmir
0.04999933 Ashkenazi_Belarussia
0.05033814 Ashkenazi_Russia
0.05066375 Roma_Barcelona
0.05099299 Swiss_Italian
0.05111232 Ashkenazi_Lithuania
0.05199437 Romanian
0.05274515 Macedonian
0.05338432 Italian_Molise
0.05381674 Italian_Umbria
0.05405445 Greek_Laconia
0.05419982 Ashkenazi_Ukraine
0.05473921 Italian_Marche
0.05491908 Italian_Tuscany

[Grace O'Malley]

Thank you. So possibly he is updating the moderns after all? I hope so because I do find it beneficial to be able to use moderns and not just ancients. I know his focus is on ancients though and that's understandable with all the new samples becoming available. They are also the most important when looking at the genesis of populations and who contributed to them over time.

[Thracian]

Thank you. So possibly he is updating the moderns after all? I hope so because I do find it beneficial to be able to use moderns and not just ancients. I know his focus is on ancients though and that's understandable with all the new samples becoming available. They are also the most important when looking at the genesis of populations and who contributed to them over time.

I believe so. He also added Greek Cappadocia recently, I hope he changed his mind and will add new samples in the future again.

[Gallop]

I have made some changes by getting a better distance and being able to see further as I am fed up with being kidnapped.

I have left only Andalusia, which is where I am from, and have included Iberia as a representation of the rest, which are very close to each other and do not let me see any further in the results.


Distance: 1.7048% / 0.01704765
Target: Gallop_scaled
29.3 French_South
26.7 Portuguese
23.8 Iberian
11.2 Orcadian
5.1 North_Ossetian
2.8 Cushitic
1.1 Abkhasian


Distance to: Gallop_scaled
0.02269035 Spanish_Andalucia
0.02312202 Portuguese
0.03729018 French_Auvergne
0.03861764 French_Provence
0.03951440 French_Occitanie
0.03973633 Swiss_French
0.04011372 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
0.04171394 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.04475970 Italian_Veneto
0.04545366 Italian_Liguria
0.04552132 Italian_Bergamo
0.04680083 Italian_Lombardy
0.04986042 Swiss_German
0.04991628 Italian_Northeast
0.05056169 French_Paris
0.05088488 French_Corsica
0.05092957 Italian_Piedmont
0.05210484 Swiss_Italian
0.05326481 French_Alsace
0.05333265 French_Nord
0.05452984 French_Pas-de-Calais
0.05636289 Belgian
0.05726834 Italian_Tuscany
0.05796874 Iberian
0.06446243 French_Seine-Maritime
0.06537291 Afrikaner
0.06567410 Italian_Umbria
0.06572764 Romanian
0.06601489 French_Brittany
0.06608240 Italian_Marche
0.06786678 Greek_Thessaly
0.06888937 Bulgarian
0.06942351 Austrian
0.06958885 Italian_Lazio
0.07027081 Montenegrin
0.07070820 Albanian
0.07103931 Serbian
0.07141790 German
0.07147361 Gagauz
0.07204023 Macedonian
0.07238736 Greek_Central_Macedonia
0.07260373 Welsh
0.07277272 English_Cornwall
0.07285842 Sicilian_West
0.07477139 English
0.07604886 Moldovan
0.07688595 Italian_Abruzzo
0.07736890 Italian_Molise
0.07797339 Orcadian
0.07812947 Scottish


Eliminated French South to purify more of the same


Distance: 1.7227% / 0.01722714
Target: Gallop_scaled
36.3 Iberian
31.8 Portuguese
10.3 Orcadian
7.0 French_Brittany
6.3 North_Ossetian
4.0 Irish
2.2 Cushitic
1.0 Swiss_French
0.9 Sardinian
0.2 Ju_hoan_North

Distance: 1.8878% / 0.01887754
Target: Gallop_scaled | ADC: 0.25x
56.2 Portuguese
17.7 Iberian
12.0 Spanish_Andalucia
7.6 Orcadian
4.1 French_Pas-de-Calais
1.8 North_Ossetian
0.5 Datog
0.1 Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator


I am eliminating Portugal in order to further condense the over-exposure of the Iberian Peninsula


Distance: 1.7713% / 0.01771301
Target: Gallop_scaled
36.0 Iberian
17.6 Spanish_Andalucia
15.0 French_Brittany
11.1 Irish
6.8 North_Ossetian
5.3 Sardinian
3.2 Cushitic
3.0 French_Pas-de-Calais
1.9 Swiss_French
0.1 Ju_hoan_North

Distance: 1.9655% / 0.01965513
Target: Gallop_scaled | ADC: 0.25x
68.5 Spanish_Andalucia
14.1 French_Pas-de-Calais
13.1 Iberian
1.4 North_Ossetian
1.4 Swiss_French
0.9 Datog
0.6 Orcadian


I understand that there is an ethnic minority that they call Latinos or Hispanics and that is very despised by some sectors and nobody wants to have anything to do with them or that in Europe itself there are interests in painting Spain in the time of Al Andalus and from the Islamic world is allegedly paid to manipulate results about Spain but all those are not my problems as a native Spanish person who, although he may have some problems for various interests, is Europe and we are not going to believe that we Spaniards have sprouted from the Iberian Peninsula and have nothing to do with anyone for the reasons mentioned above and many others.


This is what I think.

[Chris596]

I don't think there are significant changes in my case. Maybe only the Western European samples got modified? I'm a Käräböğä-shifted Hungarian :)

Distance to: Chris
0.01448218 Moldovan
0.01551729 Bulgarian
0.01561914 Bosnian
0.01562310 Montenegrin
0.01612239 Macedonian
0.01612715 Gagauz
0.01666741 Croatian
0.01676170 Romanian
0.01705588 Serbian
0.01895210 Slovenian
0.01962122 Hungarian
0.02036730 Turkish_Deliorman
0.02189643 Greek_Central_Macedonia
0.02232798 Austrian
0.02365752 Moldovan_o
0.02366507 Slovakian
0.02483888 Czech
0.02506689 Italian_Northeast
0.02513457 Turkish_Rumeli
0.02530190 Albanian
0.02592719 Greek_Thessaly
0.02593792 Polish
0.02659102 Ukrainian
0.02663771 German_East
0.02767219 Cossack_Ukrainian

[gixajo]

I gathered the new references the last week in Anthrogenica, they were posted there by someone, but I didn´t know that they would be added to Vahaduo sources.

As far as I know these are the "new" references:


Denmark,0.130697,0.135319,0.0662224,0.0520759,0.04 10308,0.0194457,0.00579889,0.00789775,0.00310365,-0.00343971,-0.00547655,0.00410635,-0.00867435,-0.00634441,0.0189092,0.00555219,-0.00684842,0.00218855,0.00256424,0.00389562,0.0056 2445,0.00191043,0.000480666,0.0138604,-1.79625e-05
Ireland,0.133227,0.131729,0.0614168,0.0507266,0.03 61093,0.0207309,0.00418543,0.00452728,0.00489883,0 .00354059,-0.00645687,0.00655131,-0.0136202,-0.014529,0.0277257,0.00641481,-0.0113682,0.000947148,0.000131684,0.00310863,0.004 93177,0.00144262,0.00227128,0.0133123,-0.000575939
Serbia,0.127545,0.137096,0.0408547,0.0151093,0.031 9547,0.00503553,0.00515718,0.00685869,-0.00182935,-0.000739069,-0.0026343,-0.00140708,0.00317143,0.012539,-0.0128859,0.000456697,0.00343345,0.000830514,0.004 19692,-0.00175779,-0.00845037,-0.00168305,0.00476558,0.00021422,-0.00177629
Cappadocia,0.111091,0.141463,-0.0413701,-0.0611442,-0.0152952,-0.0183789,0.00270262,-0.00385369,-0.0186526,0.00942161,0.00311786,0.00320715,-0.00279482,0.00597282,-0.00971757,-0.00574113,0.000495459,0.00292651,0.00597066,-0.00392688,0.000935849,0.00479773,-0.00368511,-0.000626595,0.00193995
Crete,0.108094,0.145403,-0.0142374,-0.045017,0.0069019,-0.0152324,0.00228409,-0.00191608,-0.00252782,0.0128732,0.00204172,0.00143468,-0.00185909,0.00392302,-0.0114646,-0.00210803,0.00505861,0.000959417,0.00381896,-0.00480989,-0.0043743,0.000836393,0.000817035,0.00176957,-0.001659
Dodecanese,0.105969,0.146135,-0.0244374,-0.0567514,0.00218502,-0.0183789,0.00380717,-0.0042229,-0.00280198,0.0166564,0.0048067,0.00206816,-0.00448955,-0.000564253,-0.0123505,-0.00127286,0.00329872,0.00501687,0.0058701,-0.00475228,-0.0043049,-0.000964491,0.000345094,-0.000867593,-0.00341287
East_Rumelia,0.120368,0.142259,0.0156819,-0.0158271,0.0155157,-0.00411364,0.00460229,0.00105765,-0.0052324,0.011739,0.0023005,-0.000849244,-0.00204408,0.00708757,-0.0147483,0.000729243,0.0119845,-0.000506754,0.00327862,-0.00393939,-0.00442968,-0.00165901,0.00190007,0.000401663,-0.00149687
Macedonia,0.121563,0.142851,0.0134758,-0.0164946,0.0188958,-0.00487129,0.00294547,0.0028768,-4.09048e-05,0.0121734,0.00197031,0.00128885,-0.0023092,0.0103217,-0.0153364,-0.00624939,0.00184276,0.000658781,0.00698043,-0.00525252,-0.00651351,0.000412176,0.00241566,-0.00103629,-0.000598749
Peloponnese,0.117238,0.144686,0.0077409,-0.0272171,0.0200685,-0.0102162,0.00371069,0.000242905,0.00236817,0.0134 279,0.00467508,0.000386498,-0.0010015,0.00516447,-0.0157221,-0.000125611,0.00562024,0.00112686,0.0059475,-0.00498924,-0.00628496,0.000527151,0.00419691,0.00119231,-0.00160717
SE_Laconia,0.114677,0.149029,0.00320553,-0.0369837,0.0210039,-0.0098309,0.000822537,-0.00190377,0.00598232,0.0143511,0.00304478,-0.00108653,-0.00133795,0.00602099,-0.0145221,0.00527044,0.0135599,0.00186866,0.000314 245,-0.00397065,-0.0030883,0.00250397,0.00539209,0.00469946,-0.00302368

[Abriekman]

What updated moderns? On Vahaduo there is written last update of Eurogenes dataset was 7.11

[Grace O'Malley]

What updated moderns? On Vahaduo there is written last update of Eurogenes dataset was 7.11

Updated in the Global 25 spreadsheets that Davidski updates. There has been more Danish samples added and other populations have been updated. I just noticed the Danish because of my results.

https://eurogenes.blogspot.com/2019/07/getting-most-out-of-global25_12.html

[gixajo]

Updated in the Global 25 spreadsheets that Davidski updates. There has been more Danish samples added and other populations have been updated. I just noticed the Danish because of my results.

[rl]

Ah, ok, in vahaduo they are not still updated, just in G25 spreadsheet from Eurogenes blog.

Any difference with the Ireland reference I posted?

Ireland(new)/ Irish(old)


Ireland,0.133227,0.131729,0.0614168,0.0507266,0.03 61093,0.0207309,0.00418543,0.00452728,0.00489883,0 .00354059,-0.00645687,0.00655131,-0.0136202,-0.014529,0.0277257,0.00641481,-0.0113682,0.000947148,0.000131684,0.00310863,0.004 93177,0.00144262,0.00227128,0.0133123,-0.000575939
Irish,0.1334042,0.134875,0.0610876,0.0482532,0.038 3388,0.0188992,0.003,0.0047738,0.0031318,0.002725,-0.00714,0.005606,-0.0143759,-0.0139278,0.0253478,0.0048208,-0.0110725,0.0022052,0.0007502,0.0013385,0.0051745, 0.0012249,-0.0003563,0.0147667,0.0010665

[Abriekman]

I now score Rumelia_East, what is it? What is difference between this and Bulgarian?

[gixajo]

I don't think there are significant changes in my case. Maybe only the Western European samples got modified? I'm a Käräböğä-shifted Hungarian :)

ian

Serbia(old)/Serbia(new)


Serbia,0.127545,0.137096,0.0408547,0.0151093,0.031 9547,0.00503553,0.00515718,0.00685869,-0.00182935,-0.000739069,-0.0026343,-0.00140708,0.00317143,0.012539,-0.0128859,0.000456697,0.00343345,0.000830514,0.004 19692,-0.00175779,-0.00845037,-0.00168305,0.00476558,0.00021422,-0.00177629
Serbian,0.1265712,0.137706,0.0370332,0.0138244,0.0 298516,0.003012,0.003854,0.006,0.0011862,0.0026242 ,-0.0010716,-0.0006894,0.0042816,0.0120556,-0.0128932,-0.005489,0.0062582,-0.0002786,0.004676,-0.0049274,-0.007836,-0.00183,0.0053492,0.00094,-0.0028502


The East Rumelia could be interesting for you too.

[Lucas]

I bolded new ones,

Distance to: Thracian_scaled
0.02773576 Turkish_Rumeli
0.03176017 Turkish_Deliorman
0.03922165 Gagauz
0.03989952 Rumelia_East
0.04243246 Greek_Central_Macedonia
0.04508945 Bulgarian
0.04522904 Greek_Macedonia
0.04661914 Turkish_Istanbul
0.04681872 Albanian
0.04683261 Greek_Peloponnese
0.04782238 Greek_Thessaly
0.04842110 Greek_Izmir
0.04999933 Ashkenazi_Belarussia
0.05033814 Ashkenazi_Russia
0.05066375 Roma_Barcelona
0.05099299 Swiss_Italian
0.05111232 Ashkenazi_Lithuania
0.05199437 Romanian
0.05274515 Macedonian
0.05338432 Italian_Molise
0.05381674 Italian_Umbria
0.05405445 Greek_Laconia
0.05419982 Ashkenazi_Ukraine
0.05473921 Italian_Marche
0.05491908 Italian_Tuscany

Maybe Kaspias sent him.

[Lucas]

I updated modern G25 sheets http://g25vahaduo.genetics.ovh/.
Also mixed modern and ancients.

[gixajo]

I saw that there is a very small difference in 4 Spanish references too: Extremadura, Andalucía, Galicia and Castilla la Mancha. the other 29 references remain exactly the same as they were.

[Pedro Ruben]

Distance to: Pedro_scaled
0.02862657 Spanish_Canarias
0.02912641 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.03123799 Portuguese
0.03125604 Spanish_Galicia
0.03277686 Spanish_Andalucia
0.03331998 Spanish_Extremadura
0.03534517 Spanish_Murcia
0.03827585 Spanish_Eivissa
0.03852568 Spanish_Asturias
0.03854111 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.03860717 Spanish_Alacant
0.04009266 Spanish_Menorca
0.04093771 Spanish_Valencia
0.04096807 Spanish_Baleares
0.04156539 Spanish_Cataluna
0.04180951 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.04217697 Spanish_Mallorca
0.04383451 Italian_Liguria
0.04398211 Spanish_Barcelones
0.04416265 Spanish_Aragon
0.04419919 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.04467602 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.04525240 Spanish_Penedes
0.04548542 Spanish_Lleida
0.04550371 Spanish_Girona

Distance to: Dad_scaled
0.02645253 Spanish_Canarias
0.03394612 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.03566143 Portuguese
0.03679260 Spanish_Andalucia
0.03689143 Spanish_Galicia
0.03757888 Spanish_Extremadura
0.03898322 Spanish_Murcia
0.04126596 Spanish_Asturias
0.04482471 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.04531969 Spanish_Alacant
0.04534996 Spanish_Menorca
0.04578389 Spanish_Eivissa
0.04618485 Spanish_Valencia
0.04638248 Spanish_Cataluna
0.04814478 Spanish_Baleares
0.04819549 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.04875562 Spanish_Aragon
0.04928643 Spanish_Mallorca
0.05007620 Spanish_Barcelones
0.05032633 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.05104631 Spanish_Pirineu
0.05139231 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.05147880 Italian_Liguria
0.05199118 Spanish_Cantabria
0.05232765 Spanish_Penedes

Distance to: Mom_scaled
0.02449909 Portuguese
0.02581849 Spanish_Galicia
0.02682969 Spanish_Andalucia
0.02696956 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.02814065 Spanish_Extremadura
0.02843435 Spanish_Alacant
0.02958083 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.03045132 Spanish_Murcia
0.03114613 Spanish_Cataluna
0.03187132 Spanish_Asturias
0.03257740 Spanish_Baleares
0.03266048 Spanish_Eivissa
0.03281901 Spanish_Mallorca
0.03329016 Spanish_Aragon
0.03336025 Spanish_Valencia
0.03337584 Spanish_Cantabria
0.03350723 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.03480839 Spanish_Lleida
0.03516670 Spanish_Penedes
0.03521678 Spanish_Canarias
0.03531831 Spanish_Castello
0.03541626 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.03550496 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.03566326 Spanish_Girona
0.03577249 Spanish_Menorca

[Abriekman]

Target: Abriekman_scaled
Distance: 1.7443% / 0.01744284
59.0 Ukrainian
17.2 Sorb_Niederlausitz
11.8 Rumelia_East
3.8 Slovakian
2.4 Turkish_Trabzon
1.6 Czech
1.6 Mari
1.4 Italian_Jew
0.8 Jatt_Pathak
0.2 Surui
0.2 Yemenite_Mahra

I do not understand what Rumelia East means

[Kaspias]

^^

East_Rumelia is Greeks from Plovdiv.

[JamesBond007]

Just pointing this out to people that might be interested but I noticed when looking at the G25 and my closest populations that Denmark is now much closer than it was. I wondered if there was some changes to the dataset and sure enough there has been a significant increase in the Danish samples.


I thought Davidski was doing away with the modern populations so I'm pleased that there have been some changes.

If anyone else notices any changes please add or post your results.


Honestly, doll, IMHO modern G25 is trash people don't take MyTrueAncestry seriously but treat G25 as some kind of f*cking amazing holy grail. It is true that British people, particularly in the South, can resemble Dutch or Germans but this is ridiculous :

Distance to: Kevin_scaled
0.02865262 Dutch
0.02966312 Norwegian
0.03097093 Welsh
0.03119617 Irish
0.03153596 Scottish
0.03173767 English
0.03211816 Danish
0.03264251 Orcadian
0.03323573 French_Brittany
0.03424261 English_Cornwall
0.03434002 Shetlandic
0.03436262 Afrikaner
0.03554655 Icelandic
0.03738947 German
0.03848071 Swedish
0.03928185 Belgian
0.03989769 French_Pas-de-Calais
0.04385265 French_Nord
0.04392491 French_Paris
0.04724802 French_Alsace
0.04744540 Austrian
0.04848583 French_Seine-Maritime
0.04923277 Swiss_German
0.05276384 German_East
0.05488643 Czech

I feel MyTrueAncestry is more correct not that I'm literally SouthWest English but that is the ethnic group I am most similar too and yes SouthWest English and SouthEast English people can be Dutch or German like :

1. Southwest_English (4.229)
2. Southeast_English (4.317)
3. North_Dutch (4.418)
4. Danish (4.780)
5. West_Scottish (4.970)
6. Irish (5.036)
7. Orcadian (5.145)
8. North_German (6.157)

[Abriekman]

^^

East_Rumelia is Greeks from Plovdiv.

Why did they add that? Is there any difference between them and Macedonian Greeks? It seems they are a bit more southern, than Macedonian Greeks, they have something Caucasian + Anatolian

[Kaspias]

Why did they add that? Is there any difference between them and Macedonian Greeks? It seems they are a bit more southern, than Macedonian Greeks, they have something Caucasian + Anatolian

Why wouldn't he add? There is a great sample size.

Plovdiv Greeks should be in the same parallel with Thracian Greeks who are a mix of recent colonizers that came from the Peloponnese and remnants of local Greeks where lives in Eastern Thrace densely. He could basically name it Greek_Thrace.

Check the Greek averages I posted in Dodecad K12b, Thracian Greeks are more Southern than Macedonian Greeks there as well.

https://i.ibb.co/k3g4Gg9/pca-rumlar.png

[Chris596]

Well I don't know about the new samples. In the scaled modern averages, now I'm closer to a German than to a Slovak ( I don't think that's possible). And on top of that I'm closer to the German average than to the German_East sample which is also impossible in my case.

[Slavic Italian]

I'll trust G 25 when it gives me results like this. This is what I am.

1.30
English 29.5
Irish 24
Russian Smolensk 18.5
Sicilian 15.5
Italy Calabria 12.5

[Slavic Italian]

Well I don't know about the new samples. In the scaled modern averages, now I'm closer to a German than to a Slovak ( I don't think that's possible). And on top of that I'm closer to the German average than to the German_East sample which is also impossible in my case.

Their samples suck bro. They always have. They get new Dutch samples. I am Dutch. They get new French samples. I am French. They get Germans samples. I am German. It's an experiment gone wrong.

[Slavic Italian]

LOL.

Distance: 0.5349% / 0.00534884
Target: Dick_rules_scaled | ADC: 0.25x RC
19.4 French_Alsace
17.1 Austrian
15.7 French_Occitanie
13.0 Bosnian
11.2 Afrikaner
9.6 Moldovan
4.1 Spanish_Galicia
2.8 French_Nord
2.7 Spanish_Canarias
1.8 BedouinB
1.7 Syrian
0.9 Tunisian_Douz

[Abriekman]

Why wouldn't he add? There is a great sample size.

Plovdiv Greeks should be in the same parallel with Thracian Greeks who are a mix of recent colonizers that came from the Peloponnese and remnants of local Greeks where lives in Eastern Thrace densely. He could basically name it Greek_Thrace.

Check the Greek averages I posted in Dodecad K12b, Thracian Greeks are more Southern than Macedonian Greeks there as well.

https://i.ibb.co/k3g4Gg9/pca-rumlar.png

Maybe my ancestor from Alfatar was Greek? I model with this new sample much better, because it is more southern and eats my Caucasian admixture


Distance: 0.8658% / 0.00865846
Target: Rumelia_East
58.0 Greek_Central_Macedonia
25.3 Bulgarian
6.8 Armenian_Hemsheni
6.8 Greek_Laconia
3.1 Greek_Thessaly

[Kaspias]

Maybe my ancestor from Alfatar was Greek? I model with this new sample much better, because it is more southern and eats my Caucasian admixture


Distance: 0.8658% / 0.00865846
Target: Rumelia_East
58.0 Greek_Central_Macedonia
25.3 Bulgarian
6.8 Armenian_Hemsheni
6.8 Greek_Laconia
3.1 Greek_Thessaly

There were no Greeks in Silistra, they were living in the Coastal part of Deliorman, mostly in Varna as traders.

[Abriekman]

There were no Greeks in Silistra, they were living in the Coastal part of Deliorman, mostly in Varna as traders.

Why it gave me that even without overfitting and lower distance in this case?

[Damião de Góis]

From vahaduo http://g25vahaduo.genetics.ovh/G25modern-scaled-averages.htm

I think it's the same i had before

Distance to: Gil_Vicente
0.02256008 Spanish_Andalucia
0.02488614 Spanish_Extremadura
0.02507821 Spanish_Galicia
0.02589305 Spanish_Alacant
0.02597823 Portuguese
0.02627439 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.02845471 Spanish_Eivissa
0.02973615 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.03028934 Spanish_Valencia
0.03034411 Spanish_Mallorca
0.03062782 Spanish_Murcia
0.03140340 Spanish_Barcelones
0.03148799 Spanish_Cataluna
0.03172354 Spanish_Asturias
0.03199310 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.03214734 Spanish_Baleares
0.03237051 Spanish_Menorca
0.03258607 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.03268666 Spanish_Cantabria
0.03279146 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.03296248 Spanish_Penedes
0.03384714 Spanish_Aragon
0.03456525 Spanish_Girona
0.03470729 Spanish_Pirineu
0.03485722 Spanish_Lleida

Distance: 1.2959% / 0.01295894
Target: Gil_Vicente
24.4 Spanish_Pais_Vasco
22.4 Spanish_Cantabria
17.4 Spanish_Asturias
9.9 Iraqi_Jew
8.6 Basque_French
7.7 German_East
3.3 Shetlandic
1.9 Italian_Lombardy
1.8 Esan_Nigeria
0.8 Gambian
0.8 Iranian_Mazandarani
0.5 Papuan
0.4 Berber_Tunisia_Chen
0.1 Spanish_Extremadura

[PT Tagus]

Distance: 1.1631% / 0.01163105
Target: Endovelicus_scaled
43.2 Basque_French
10.4 Italian_Lombardy
10.0 French_Seine-Maritime
8.2 BedouinB
7.2 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
4.9 Italian_Liguria
4.1 Tunisian_Berber_Zraoua
3.7 Spanish_Eivissa
3.2 Italian_Bergamo
3.1 Esan_Nigeria
1.8 Georgian_Imer
0.2 Mbuti


Distance to: Endovelicus_scaled
0.02574411 Spanish_Canarias
0.02875895 Spanish_Extremadura
0.02931457 Portuguese
0.03013592 Spanish_Andalucia
0.03059652 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.03098700 Spanish_Galicia
0.03362421 Spanish_Murcia
0.03429102 Spanish_Eivissa
0.03557503 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.03572557 Spanish_Menorca
0.03583045 Spanish_Alacant
0.03889188 Spanish_Baleares
0.03910024 Spanish_Valencia
0.03980500 Spanish_Mallorca
0.04027963 Spanish_Cataluna
0.04143737 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.04165053 Italian_Liguria
0.04199268 Spanish_Aragon
0.04209758 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.04231481 Spanish_Asturias
0.04297899 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.04314702 Spanish_Barcelones
0.04418926 Spanish_Girona
0.04426052 Spanish_Lleida
0.04438060 Spanish_Navarra

[Abriekman]

Distance: 1.9664% / 0.01966399
Target: Abriekman_scaled
45.9 Polish
26.9 Slovakian
12.0 Russian_Kostroma
9.2 Bulgarian
6.0 Syrian_Jew

Targeted with updated samples

[xripkan]

My updated closest populations

Distance to: Christos_scaled
0.02215419 Greek_Peloponnese
0.02402633 Albanian
0.02440159 Greek_Macedonia
0.02470777 Greek_Central_Macedonia
0.02576607 Rumelia_East
0.02661783 Greek_Izmir
0.02708595 Greek_Thessaly
0.03180951 Greek_Laconia
0.03324217 Italian_Molise
0.03404811 Italian_Abruzzo
0.03448122 Italian_Marche
0.03546940 Italian_Apulia
0.03557670 Italian_Umbria
0.03654387 Italian_Basilicata
0.03712303 Italian_Lazio
0.03785005 Italian_Tuscany
0.03933188 Gagauz
0.04037812 Ashkenazi_Russia
0.04053437 Swiss_Italian
0.04066453 Italian_Piedmont
0.04071838 Italian_Campania
0.04097278 Greek_Crete
0.04178893 Ashkenazi_Belarussia
0.04208033 Sicilian_East
0.04220901 Sicilian_West

[paradox]

Rumelia East is new

Distanceto:scaled
0.01761976 Rumelia_East
0.01838922 Greek_Central_Macedonia
0.01870019 Greek_Macedonia
0.02259334 Gagauz
0.02548160 Albanian
0.02587801 Greek_Thessaly
0.02636684 Greek_Peloponnese
0.02842704 Bulgarian
0.03333305 Macedonian
0.03612156 Greek_Izmir
0.03663449 Greek_Laconia
0.03694533 Swiss_Italian
0.03752722 Romanian
0.03764305 Italian_Marche
0.03919385 Italian_Tuscany
0.03970833 Italian_Molise
0.03972274 Italian_Piedmont
0.03990074 Italian_Umbria
0.04093423 Italian_Abruzzo
0.04311591 Italian_Lazio
0.04362652 Turkish_Deliorman
0.04414014 Italian_Northeast
0.04433312 Italian_Apulia
0.04463842 Italian_Veneto
0.04492717 Italian_Basilicata

[celticdragongod]

I gathered the new references the last week in Anthrogenica, they were posted there by someone, but I didn´t know that they would be added to Vahaduo sources.

As far as I know these are the "new" references:


Denmark,0.130697,0.135319,0.0662224,0.0520759,0.04 10308,0.0194457,0.00579889,0.00789775,0.00310365,-0.00343971,-0.00547655,0.00410635,-0.00867435,-0.00634441,0.0189092,0.00555219,-0.00684842,0.00218855,0.00256424,0.00389562,0.0056 2445,0.00191043,0.000480666,0.0138604,-1.79625e-05
Ireland,0.133227,0.131729,0.0614168,0.0507266,0.03 61093,0.0207309,0.00418543,0.00452728,0.00489883,0 .00354059,-0.00645687,0.00655131,-0.0136202,-0.014529,0.0277257,0.00641481,-0.0113682,0.000947148,0.000131684,0.00310863,0.004 93177,0.00144262,0.00227128,0.0133123,-0.000575939
Serbia,0.127545,0.137096,0.0408547,0.0151093,0.031 9547,0.00503553,0.00515718,0.00685869,-0.00182935,-0.000739069,-0.0026343,-0.00140708,0.00317143,0.012539,-0.0128859,0.000456697,0.00343345,0.000830514,0.004 19692,-0.00175779,-0.00845037,-0.00168305,0.00476558,0.00021422,-0.00177629
Cappadocia,0.111091,0.141463,-0.0413701,-0.0611442,-0.0152952,-0.0183789,0.00270262,-0.00385369,-0.0186526,0.00942161,0.00311786,0.00320715,-0.00279482,0.00597282,-0.00971757,-0.00574113,0.000495459,0.00292651,0.00597066,-0.00392688,0.000935849,0.00479773,-0.00368511,-0.000626595,0.00193995
Crete,0.108094,0.145403,-0.0142374,-0.045017,0.0069019,-0.0152324,0.00228409,-0.00191608,-0.00252782,0.0128732,0.00204172,0.00143468,-0.00185909,0.00392302,-0.0114646,-0.00210803,0.00505861,0.000959417,0.00381896,-0.00480989,-0.0043743,0.000836393,0.000817035,0.00176957,-0.001659
Dodecanese,0.105969,0.146135,-0.0244374,-0.0567514,0.00218502,-0.0183789,0.00380717,-0.0042229,-0.00280198,0.0166564,0.0048067,0.00206816,-0.00448955,-0.000564253,-0.0123505,-0.00127286,0.00329872,0.00501687,0.0058701,-0.00475228,-0.0043049,-0.000964491,0.000345094,-0.000867593,-0.00341287
East_Rumelia,0.120368,0.142259,0.0156819,-0.0158271,0.0155157,-0.00411364,0.00460229,0.00105765,-0.0052324,0.011739,0.0023005,-0.000849244,-0.00204408,0.00708757,-0.0147483,0.000729243,0.0119845,-0.000506754,0.00327862,-0.00393939,-0.00442968,-0.00165901,0.00190007,0.000401663,-0.00149687
Macedonia,0.121563,0.142851,0.0134758,-0.0164946,0.0188958,-0.00487129,0.00294547,0.0028768,-4.09048e-05,0.0121734,0.00197031,0.00128885,-0.0023092,0.0103217,-0.0153364,-0.00624939,0.00184276,0.000658781,0.00698043,-0.00525252,-0.00651351,0.000412176,0.00241566,-0.00103629,-0.000598749
Peloponnese,0.117238,0.144686,0.0077409,-0.0272171,0.0200685,-0.0102162,0.00371069,0.000242905,0.00236817,0.0134 279,0.00467508,0.000386498,-0.0010015,0.00516447,-0.0157221,-0.000125611,0.00562024,0.00112686,0.0059475,-0.00498924,-0.00628496,0.000527151,0.00419691,0.00119231,-0.00160717
SE_Laconia,0.114677,0.149029,0.00320553,-0.0369837,0.0210039,-0.0098309,0.000822537,-0.00190377,0.00598232,0.0143511,0.00304478,-0.00108653,-0.00133795,0.00602099,-0.0145221,0.00527044,0.0135599,0.00186866,0.000314 245,-0.00397065,-0.0030883,0.00250397,0.00539209,0.00469946,-0.00302368

Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.01896418 Ireland
0.01946485 Denmark
0.06867664 Serbia
0.10394072 Macedonia
0.10466161 East_Rumelia
0.11535003 Peloponnese
0.12587507 SE_Laconia
0.14255570 Crete
0.15861062 Dodecanese
0.17584481 Cappadocia

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 1.6341% / 0.01634136
53.6 Ireland
42.4 Denmark
3.4 Macedonia
0.6 Serbia

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 1.6341% / 0.01634136 | ADC: 0.25x RC
53.6 Ireland
42.4 Denmark
3.4 Macedonia
0.6 Serbia

[celticdragongod]

Ah, ok, in vahaduo they are not still updated, just in G25 spreadsheet from Eurogenes blog.

Any difference with the Ireland reference I posted?

Ireland(new)/ Irish(old)


Ireland,0.133227,0.131729,0.0614168,0.0507266,0.03 61093,0.0207309,0.00418543,0.00452728,0.00489883,0 .00354059,-0.00645687,0.00655131,-0.0136202,-0.014529,0.0277257,0.00641481,-0.0113682,0.000947148,0.000131684,0.00310863,0.004 93177,0.00144262,0.00227128,0.0133123,-0.000575939
Irish,0.1334042,0.134875,0.0610876,0.0482532,0.038 3388,0.0188992,0.003,0.0047738,0.0031318,0.002725,-0.00714,0.005606,-0.0143759,-0.0139278,0.0253478,0.0048208,-0.0110725,0.0022052,0.0007502,0.0013385,0.0051745, 0.0012249,-0.0003563,0.0147667,0.0010665


Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.01871597 Irish
0.01896418 Ireland

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 1.8447% / 0.01844652
58.2 Irish
41.8 Ireland

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 1.8447% / 0.01844652 | ADC: 0.25x RC
58.2 Irish
41.8 Ireland

[J. Ketch]

G25 from Vahaduo

Distance to: Creoda_scaled
0.01721798 Orcadian
0.01847653 Scottish
0.02001805 Irish
0.02087370 English
0.02090097 English_Cornwall
0.02218451 Icelandic
0.02279147 Welsh
0.02362388 Danish
0.02385523 Shetlandic
0.02385536 Dutch
0.02685711 French_Brittany
0.02758923 Norwegian
0.03035571 Swedish
0.03378111 German
0.03515967 Afrikaner
0.03846818 Belgian
0.04137301 French_Seine-Maritime
0.04150325 German_East
0.04256961 French_Nord
0.04289187 French_Pas-de-Calais
0.04510575 French_Paris
0.04544095 French_Alsace
0.04773904 Austrian
0.04789676 Swiss_German
0.05116708 Czech

Distance to: CreodaMum_scaled
0.01886201 Welsh
0.02002575 Dutch
0.02098823 Danish
0.02105966 Scottish
0.02114182 English
0.02167288 Orcadian
0.02183018 Norwegian
0.02218829 Shetlandic
0.02226220 Irish
0.02288413 French_Brittany
0.02406696 English_Cornwall
0.02451632 German
0.02504237 Icelandic
0.02747338 Swedish
0.02953259 Afrikaner
0.03180125 Belgian
0.03353733 French_Pas-de-Calais
0.03544758 French_Seine-Maritime
0.03566017 French_Nord
0.03765100 Austrian
0.03848379 French_Paris
0.03877706 French_Alsace
0.03968895 German_East
0.04066228 Swiss_German
0.04332311 Czech

Distance to: CreodaDad_scaled
0.02309102 Orcadian
0.02408025 Icelandic
0.02433498 Scottish
0.02581840 Irish
0.02731585 English_Cornwall
0.02732138 English
0.02740922 Danish
0.02929440 Welsh
0.02977876 Shetlandic
0.03036280 Dutch
0.03200460 Norwegian
0.03236241 Swedish
0.03381089 French_Brittany
0.03827258 German
0.04038099 Afrikaner
0.04068452 German_East
0.04507231 Belgian
0.04534435 French_Seine-Maritime
0.04829674 French_Nord
0.04995815 French_Pas-de-Calais
0.05045440 Czech
0.05095683 French_Alsace
0.05112569 Austrian
0.05237664 French_Paris
0.05365251 Swiss_German

K13 updated


Distance to: Creoda
2.31613903 West_Scottish
3.17458659 Orcadian
3.22156794 Irish_Munster
3.32783714 Scottish
3.35369945 Irish_Connacht
3.35586055 Irish
3.65492818 Irish_Leinster
3.77904750 Irish_Ulster
4.22513905 English_North
4.53236142 Welsh
5.02178255 English
5.14777622 English_Southwest
5.25427445 Dutch_North
5.27676985 Dutch_Central
5.44988991 English_Midlands
5.53094929 Norwegian
5.64432458 Denmark
5.88917651 English_Southeast
5.91510778 Dutch
5.92976391 Norway_South_Central
6.27243972 Sweden_Götaland
7.54579353 FRA_Armorica
7.86417828 Sweden_Svealand_West
8.06740355 North_German
8.87363511 Swedish

Distance to: CreodaMum
2.79782058 English_Southeast
2.82591578 English_North
2.85014035 English
2.91950338 English_Midlands
3.12904139 Welsh
3.32939935 Dutch
3.53795138 Dutch_Central
3.56134806 English_Southwest
3.66017759 Scottish
3.84088531 Dutch_North
3.86297813 Orcadian
3.87170505 Irish_Leinster
4.48281162 FRA_Armorica
4.48811765 North_German
4.54149755 Irish
4.69166282 Irish_Connacht
4.86732986 Irish_Munster
5.31528927 West_Scottish
5.46236213 Irish_Ulster
5.50188150 Dutch_South
5.91127736 Denmark
6.17797702 Norwegian
6.56174519 German_West
6.63006033 Norway_South_Central
6.67182883 Sweden_Götaland

Distance to: CreodaDad
4.10739577 Denmark
4.15204769 Norwegian
4.21333597 Norway_South_Central
4.24338308 Orcadian
4.34893090 West_Scottish
4.58852918 Sweden_Götaland
4.70577305 Dutch_North
4.95790278 Scottish
5.05288037 Irish_Connacht
5.17638870 Dutch_Central
5.24837118 Irish_Munster
5.25890673 Irish
5.34622297 English_North
5.43645105 Irish_Leinster
5.83709688 Irish_Ulster
5.96836661 Dutch
6.05058675 Sweden_Svealand_West
6.05905933 Welsh
6.13113366 English
6.48258436 English_Southwest
6.51131323 English_Midlands
6.89364200 English_Southeast
7.07838258 Swedish
7.33145961 North_German
8.81217907 FRA_Armorica

K15 updated


Distance to: Creoda
4.12660878 Irish_Connacht
4.45781337 Irish_Ulster
4.57926850 Irish
4.64760153 Irish_Leinster
4.66929331 Scottish
4.74016877 West_Scottish
5.13965952 Irish_Munster
5.85858345 English_Southwest
5.86936112 Welsh
6.06373647 English_North
6.30982567 Orcadian
6.41893293 English
6.81479273 English_Midlands
6.81903952 English_Southeast
7.32325747 FRA_Armorica
7.78042415 Dutch_Central
8.36657636 Dutch
9.44473398 North_German
9.51192410 Danish
9.84675073 Dutch_North
10.26203196 Dutch_South
10.54729823 Belgium
10.64175268 Norway
11.14629086 Swedish
11.17606371 Norwegian

Distance to: CreodaMum
3.50101414 English_Midlands
3.54282373 English_North
3.68325943 English
3.76296426 Welsh
3.80575879 English_Southeast
4.00715610 Dutch
4.24734034 Dutch_Central
4.44447972 Scottish
4.49952220 English_Southwest
4.66245643 Irish_Leinster
4.82551552 Dutch_North
4.89993878 Irish_Munster
5.04059520 Irish
5.06949702 Irish_Connacht
5.33958800 Orcadian
5.45827812 Irish_Ulster
5.81664852 FRA_Armorica
5.93616880 West_Scottish
6.06831113 Dutch_South
6.11015548 Danish
6.61306283 Norway
6.93588495 Norwegian
7.11187036 North_German
7.38524881 Swedish
7.81595803 West_Norwegian

Distance to: CreodaDad
3.47889350 West_Scottish
4.07460428 Irish_Connacht
4.28324643 Irish
4.37170447 Scottish
4.41061220 Irish_Leinster
4.60234723 Irish_Ulster
4.67298620 Irish_Munster
5.21528523 English_North
5.50932845 Welsh
5.77934252 English
5.81259839 Dutch_Central
5.91059219 English_Southwest
6.07638050 Orcadian
6.14114810 English_Midlands
6.24296404 English_Southeast
6.45900921 Danish
6.67876486 Dutch
6.93729774 North_German
7.58509064 FRA_Armorica
7.79955127 Norway
7.88182086 Swedish
7.95101251 Dutch_North
8.39184723 Norwegian
8.71631803 North_Swedish
8.99247463 West_Norwegian

[Grace O'Malley]

Honestly, doll, IMHO modern G25 is trash people don't take MyTrueAncestry seriously but treat G25 as some kind of f*cking amazing holy grail. It is true that British people, particularly in the South, can resemble Dutch or Germans but this is ridiculous :

Distance to: Kevin_scaled
0.02865262 Dutch
0.02966312 Norwegian
0.03097093 Welsh
0.03119617 Irish
0.03153596 Scottish
0.03173767 English
0.03211816 Danish
0.03264251 Orcadian
0.03323573 French_Brittany
0.03424261 English_Cornwall
0.03434002 Shetlandic
0.03436262 Afrikaner
0.03554655 Icelandic
0.03738947 German
0.03848071 Swedish
0.03928185 Belgian
0.03989769 French_Pas-de-Calais
0.04385265 French_Nord
0.04392491 French_Paris
0.04724802 French_Alsace
0.04744540 Austrian
0.04848583 French_Seine-Maritime
0.04923277 Swiss_German
0.05276384 German_East
0.05488643 Czech

I feel MyTrueAncestry is more correct not that I'm literally SouthWest English but that is the ethnic group I am most similar too and yes SouthWest English and SouthEast English people can be Dutch or German like :

1. Southwest_English (4.229)
2. Southeast_English (4.317)
3. North_Dutch (4.418)
4. Danish (4.780)
5. West_Scottish (4.970)
6. Irish (5.036)
7. Orcadian (5.145)
8. North_German (6.157)

Northwest Europeans all have very low distances so it is easy to get another NW Euro population. It would be strange if you were NW Euro and got North Italian for instance but getting Dutch is quite common for both English and Irish people.

[dududud]

Northwest Europeans all have very low distances so it is easy to get another NW Euro population. It would be strange if you were NW Euro and got North Italian for instance but getting Dutch is quite common for both English and Irish people.

What's the difference between French from North and Irish?

Answer: Picard (ethnic group from Northern France) has more EEF.

[calxpal]

Distance to: cpalscaled
0.02859945 Austrian
0.02960424 German
0.03508515 Afrikaner
0.03510878 Hungarian
0.03572103 Belgian
0.03572411 French_Pas-de-Calais
0.03661877 French_Alsace
0.03664621 French_Nord
0.03679885 Dutch
0.03825319 French_Brittany
0.03834263 Czech
0.03908192 Welsh
0.03938663 Croatian
0.03974965 French_Seine-Maritime
0.04009359 French_Paris
0.04025824 Danish
0.04052296 Norwegian
0.04081053 Swiss_German
0.04107877 Slovakian
0.04160314 English
0.04184793 Shetlandic
0.04233021 Bosnian
0.04290471 Slovenian
0.04309107 Scottish
0.04327064 English_Cornwall

There are some more specific modern populations added to the list since I first tried this calc a few months ago, idk what else to say.

[Grace O'Malley]

What's the difference between French from North and Irish?

Answer: Picard (ethnic group from Northern France) has more EEF.

Yes Northern French including Bretons have more EEF.

[xripkan]

Rumelia East is new

Distanceto:scaled
0.01761976 Rumelia_East
0.01838922 Greek_Central_Macedonia
0.01870019 Greek_Macedonia
0.02259334 Gagauz
0.02548160 Albanian
0.02587801 Greek_Thessaly
0.02636684 Greek_Peloponnese
0.02842704 Bulgarian
0.03333305 Macedonian
0.03612156 Greek_Izmir
0.03663449 Greek_Laconia
0.03694533 Swiss_Italian
0.03752722 Romanian
0.03764305 Italian_Marche
0.03919385 Italian_Tuscany
0.03970833 Italian_Molise
0.03972274 Italian_Piedmont
0.03990074 Italian_Umbria
0.04093423 Italian_Abruzzo
0.04311591 Italian_Lazio
0.04362652 Turkish_Deliorman
0.04414014 Italian_Northeast
0.04433312 Italian_Apulia
0.04463842 Italian_Veneto
0.04492717 Italian_Basilicata

Could you post your parents' as well? I would like to see more Greek results.

[dududud]

Yes Northern French including Bretons have more EEF.

Western Bretons are more close to Irish, but Eastern Bretons more close to other french

[calxpal]

Trying out the new references :)
Distance to: cpalscaled
0.04005848 Denmark
0.04596067 Ireland
0.04783446 Serbia
0.08022626 East_Rumelia
0.08473649 Macedonia
0.09349098 Peloponnese
0.10127078 SE_Laconia
0.12202191 Crete
0.13891165 Dodecanese
0.15740403 Cappadocia

Target: cpalscaled
Distance: 2.6697% / 0.02669662
68.8 Denmark
14.0 SE_Laconia
13.8 Serbia
3.4 East_Rumelia

With the whole modern averages sheet hehe :D

Distance: 1.8336% / 0.01833602
Target: cpalscaled
40.6 Norwegian
20.5 Slovakian
13.1 SE_Laconia
12.0 Spanish_Soria
11.6 Cossack_Kuban
1.7 Palestinian_Beit_Sahour
0.5 Lak

[paradox]

Could you post your parents' as well? I would like to see more Greek results.I've sent you a PM.

[Chris596]

The ethnic breakdown has changed a bit for me, now I'm a bit more West Asian and I score SSA for some reason. The rest is the same.

Distance: 1.2940% / 0.01294013
Target: Chris_scaled
31.6 Lithuanian_PA
20.4 Sardinian
11.5 Macedonian
11.1 Abkhasian
11.1 Lithuanian_VA
5.5 Cossack_Ukrainian
3.4 Georgian_Laz
3.1 Greek_Laconia
1.4 Li
0.7 Ket
0.2 Ju_hoan_North

Distance: 1.8114% / 0.01811351
Target: Chris_scaled | ADC: 0.25x
49.9 Moldovan
21.6 Montenegrin
18.7 Bosnian
3.5 Cossack_Ukrainian
3.2 Sardinian
1.5 Abazin
1.0 Li
0.5 Spanish_Soria
0.1 Ju_hoan_North

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And here's my daddy:

Distance: 3.3685% / 0.03368546
Target: ChrisFather
28.4 Sardinian
27.4 Georgian_Laz
23.3 Lithuanian_VA
16.5 Lithuanian_RA
2.9 Li
1.1 Ket
0.4 Ju_hoan_North

Distance: 3.8149% / 0.03814865
Target: ChrisFather | ADC: 0.25x
48.9 Macedonian
21.5 Gagauz
9.7 Abazin
8.4 Sardinian
4.3 Bosnian
2.8 Lithuanian_VA
2.4 Cossack_Ukrainian
2.0 Li

[MandM]

Well the change that i see is Romanian and Serbian have changed place so Romanian is now on top and Serbian on second

Distance to: Milenko_scaled
0.01926181 Romanian
0.01991684 Serbian
0.02029044 Macedonian
0.02040220 Montenegrin
0.02319705 Bulgarian
0.02357955 Moldovan
0.02729985 Bosnian
0.03135068 Gagauz
0.03592466 Croatian
0.03661301 Italian_Northeast
0.04074974 Austrian
0.04116922 Slovenian
0.04119065 Hungarian
0.04371955 Greek_Central_Macedonia
0.04438280 Rumelia_East
0.04709457 Albanian
0.04716704 Italian_Veneto
0.04728557 Greek_Macedonia
0.04782241 Turkish_Deliorman
0.04820986 French_Alsace
0.04827588 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
0.04880340 French_Provence
0.04944032 Swiss_German
0.05063779 Swiss_Italian
0.05156690 Italian_Aosta_Valley

Distance: 1.3331% / 0.01333115
Target: Milenko_scaled | ADC: 0.25x RC
74.7 Macedonian
14.3 Slovakian
5.3 Spanish_Soria
3.8 Tabasaran
1.9 Ket

[Dr_Maul]

My distances seem to have been lowered slightly

https://i.ibb.co/HCZdKCk/Screen-Shot-2020-12-07-at-10-46-53-AM.png