Eurogenes blog madness

[The Sun King]

Is it just me or is this guy Eurogenes (Davidski) completely insane? He has fantasies of some type of Polish master race riding on horses and "civilizing" Europe. He is very pro slav and if my memory serves me correct were considered subhuman by the Nazis. He thinks he has the answer to everything involving "race". Guy is lucky he isn't in a phyche ward. Many of his ideas and deductions are that of someone who is unstable. Ok maybe its me? Go onto his blog then and see this propaganda and such for yourself. I have no problem in racial pride or even haplogroup pride but he goes too far.

[Lemminkäinen]

He is of Polish ancestry, although rised in Australia. I think that he was somewhat radicalized after moving to USA? I have nothing to speak out of my mind because there has been a confrontation over ten years between South and Central European regarding genes and migrations. I let them fight.

[JamesBond007]

I dunno, it would be nice if you linked to specific posts , on his blog, you were talking about since I only skim it for stuff I'm interested in which is not a lot. The stuff I'm interested in tends to be not a lot his posts.

[dududud]

Well, i don't think he's nationalist or whatever. I think he's liberal but he like genetic stuff, indo-european stuff... Not a problem, IMO

[Rethel]

He has fantasies of some type of Polish master race riding on horses and "civilizing" Europe.

I have the feeling that you read some kind of parody of what he actually wrote.


were considered subhuman by the Nazis.

So what? Nazis are your worldview guides? Are they eternal measurment of everything? :scratch: :picard2:

[Rethel]

Well, i don't think he's nationalist or whatever. I think he's liberal but he like genetic stuff, indo-european stuff... Not a problem, IMO

All non-IEs instead of writing something usefull about their own folks, are usually yelling
and screeming, when someone is writing about IEs. So called "The Sun King" is a G2 guy,
so, considering what he wrote above, he has to be jelaous, that Davidski is leading quite
prosperous blog, on which he's writing about things interesting him, i.e. mainly about IEs.

G2guy should open his own blog about Azyanits/Caucasians/MENAs/whatevers but instead
he prefers to be upset about the fact, that somebody else made such thing about nonG2s.

[XenophobicPrussian]

G2a butthurt detected. :laugh:

You should delete this post though, it's kind of slanderous. Davidski's politics are actually kind of lame(but much appreciation to him for uploading ancient samples/etc), you can tell he atleast used to be a Polish/Slav chauvinist based on subtle clues and old forum posts he had WAY back in the day, but his blog is absolutely tame and politically correct. He has major researchers that read it so he has to be, but he started being PC way before then too. He's probably changed into mildly proud Pole civic nationalist who's interested in genetics. There's really nothing nationalistic about his blog at all, he's literally just summarizing what papers say.

My main quarrel is he keeps obsessing about swarthy Tataroid steppe people instead of focusing his efforts on all ancient populations(specifically later, more interesting ones), been a long time since he's done any real thorough analysis or qpadm models on samples outside of just uploading them or steppe related samples.

[Jana]

G2a butthurt detected. :laugh:

You should delete this post though, it's kind of slanderous. Davidski's politics are actually kind of lame(but much appreciation to him for uploading ancient samples/etc), you can tell he atleast used to be a Polish/Slav chauvinist based on subtle clues and old forum posts he had WAY back in the day, but his blog is absolutely tame and politically correct. He has major researchers that read it so he has to be, but he started being PC way before then too. He's probably changed into mildly proud Pole civic nationalist who's interested in genetics. There's really nothing nationalistic about his blog at all, he's literally just summarizing what papers say.

My main quarrel is he keeps obsessing about swarthy Tataroid steppe people instead of focusing his efforts on all ancient populations(specifically later, more interesting ones), been a long time since he's done any real thorough analysis or qpadm models on samples outside of just uploading them or steppe related samples.

Maybe you are G2a :o

[XenophobicPrussian]

dp

[XenophobicPrussian]

Maybe you are G2a :o
If I am I won't delude myself atleast. I still like my chances though.

[Rethel]

Maybe you are G2a :o

Or E2 or J2 :laugh:

Years are passing, and XP still refuses to get the test... interesting why?

[dududud]

All non-IEs instead of writing something usefull about their own folks, are usually yelling
and screeming, when someone is writing about IEs. So called "The Sun King" is a G2 guy,
so, considering what he wrote above, he has to be jelaous, that Davidski is leading quite
prosperous blog, on which he's writing about things interesting him, i.e. mainly about IEs.

G2guy should open his own blog about Azyanits/Caucasians/MENAs/whatevers but instead
he prefers to be upset about the fact, that somebody else made such thing about nonG2s.

I have EEF blood (Sardinian maternal grandfather, around 90% EEF) and Indo-European (yamnayas) blood and am interested in both, even WHGs, because I also have blood (11% may seem insignificant , but it's not nothing). I'm not a pure EEF or Indo-European so it's in my blood.

Besides, David only exposes data, there is nothing really "ideological" ... maybe in the interpretation at the limit, but it is debatable. I think he enjoys sharing the new data on Indo-Europeans, but he doesn't just touch on this topic, and if some people think that then they don't often consult Eurogenes to think he is just publishing articles on the Indo-Europeans.

[Jana]

Or E2 or J2 :laugh:

Years are passing, and XP still refuses to get the test... interesting why?

IMO, he is afraid too see too much eastern Euro autosomal admixture. Which is likely for him, despite of his look. He can correct me if I'm wrong.

[Rethel]

I have EEF blood (Sardinian maternal grandfather, around 90% EEF) and Indo-European (yamnayas) blood and am interested in both, even WHGs, because I also have blood (11% may seem insignificant , but it's not nothing). I'm not a pure EEF or Indo-European so it's in my blood.

IEness is not autosomal.

[Harkonnen]

He is insanity personified indeed.

[XenophobicPrussian]

IMO, he is afraid too see too much eastern Euro autosomal admixture. Which is likely for him, despite of his look. He can correct me if I'm wrong.
Nope. I could be 99% Polish and still have the same views. I could be Somali and prefer NW Euro people, I could literally care less. It's just a complete waste of money. 1 genetic test is like 6 portions of quality wings from a quality pub. Why would I care about my own genetics? I got interested in genetics to see how they correlate with human features among various human populations, what ancient populations contributed to said populations, and other autistic reasons.

I expect around 40-65% ancient Balto-Slavic, I say as low as 40 because one of my mom's Polish grandparents is Kashubian and her family is from Western Poland, and my dad's side is from Mecklenburg which pre-WW2 refugees apparently only has 15% Slavic based on a few native kits, compared to 40% in Brandenburg and Saschen. Also have some English, which wouldn't affect Balto-Slavic admixture total %, but would make me more western shifted on a PCA. I say as high as 65, because obviously I can't be sure my German ancestors who came to Canada were like the pre-WW2 Mecklenburg average(I know they were both from Rostock but still could've been rural Brandenburgians who moved there or something), and they also mixed with other German-Anglo Canadians since then, some of them having the possibility of being from Brandenburg/etc(although not likely).

[Jana]

Nope. I could be 99% Polish and still have the same views. I could be Somali and prefer NW Euro people, I could literally care less. It's just a complete waste of money. 1 genetic test is like 6 portions of quality wings from a quality pub. Why would I care about my own genetics? I got interested in genetics to see how they correlate with human features among various human populations, what ancient populations contributed to said populations, and other autistic reasons.

I expect around 40-65% ancient Balto-Slavic, I say as low as 40 because one of my mom's Polish grandparents is Kashubian and her family is from Western Poland, and my dad's side is from Mecklenburg which pre-WW2 refugees apparently only has 15% Slavic based on a few native kits, compared to 40% in Brandenburg and Saschen. Also have some English, which wouldn't affect Balto-Slavic admixture total %, but would make me more western shifted on a PCA. I say as high as 65, because obviously I can't be sure my German ancestors who came to Canada were like the pre-WW2 Mecklenburg average, and they also mixed with other German-Anglo Canadians since then, some of them having the possibility of being from Brandenburg/etc(although not likely).

How can you not be interested in your DNA? It would be great to see it. Whatever the amount of your Balto-Slavic is, you will be full northern Euro.
You look German/Danish to me.

[Immanenz]

IEness is not autosomal.

IEness is only pure state of mind- its not even genetical.

[Harkonnen]

How can you not be interested in your DNA? It would be great to see it. Whatever the amount of your Balto-Slavic is, you will be full northern Euro.
You look German/Danish to me.

Because he has narrow skull (like PIE). Science has shown narrow skulls are naturally submissive to other folk.

[Leto]

Nope. I could be 99% Polish and still have the same views. I could be Somali and prefer NW Euro people, I could literally care less. It's just a complete waste of money. 1 genetic test is like 6 portions of quality wings from a quality pub. Why would I care about my own genetics? I got interested in genetics to see how they correlate with human features among various human populations, what ancient populations contributed to said populations, and other autistic reasons.

What views? Western Euro or Germanic civilizational supremacy? I'm not provoking you, you are entitled to have those views and I'm not here to debate.

[Jana]

Because he has narrow skull (like PIE). Science has shown narrow skulls are naturally submissive to other folk.

It's blurry, I saw his pic years ago but from what I remember he has Borreby admix other than Nordid.

[Rethel]

I could be Somali and prefer NW Euro people

Such attitude would witness about some genetic damage or mental illness. Similar to this what libtards suffer from.

And btw, from all rascisms, NWEuro-one is one of the most sensless and retarded, especially borreby part.

[Rethel]

IEness is only pure state of mind

So fictional, that you putted it as your own description.


its not even genetical.

Why should be?
Not has to be BUT can be proved by genetic tool.
IEness is just heritable, as any other hertable things.

[Immanenz]

So fictional, that you putted it as your own description.
Why should be?
Not has to be BUT can be proved by genetic tool.
IEness is just heritable, as any other hertable things.

i dont think its something analogous to a degenareted royality thing.

[gixajo]

If I am I won't delude myself atleast. I still like my chances though.

If you want, I'll sell you my maternal haplotype, although maybe you don't like the subclade.

The haplotype of my paternal line is not included in your wish list of your avatar, but I can sell you too till you get one better than it.

(Arabs like me were always good businessmen)

[XenophobicPrussian]

Such attitude would witness about some genetic damage or mental illness. Similar to this what libtards suffer from.

And btw, from all rascisms, NWEuro-one is one of the most sensless and retarded, especially borreby part.
Rich coming from you.

All Somalis want to move to and live in Western countries, around Western people, in Western economies. The only difference, if I was Somali, is I wouldn't lie to myself such as people like yourself or the millions of other Polacks who come to the US/Canada/UK.

When polled, African Americans overwhelmingly and consistently answer they sexually prefer white women(and in the US this does mean "NW Euro" for the most part) over black women(and sure you can say blacks are dumb but I wouldn't go as far as to say their brains are damaged).

Btw, libtards live longer, eat better and make more money than conservatives(also don't obsess about haplogroups and type in broken Zulu English in every post), so they must be doing something right.

[Leto]

I also think it's still important to test yourself if you're interested in genetics instead of guessing and judging by a few Gedmatch kits from your ancestral regions. Why not? Especially in North America it's cheap and easy.

[Peterski]

If I am I won't delude myself atleast. I still like my chances though.

You are probably R1a or I2a - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTYnOR1-buE

[Ion Basescul]

What the heck is this thread. Are we shittalking Davidski or not?
I've never had problems with him personally. He was always responsive to me since I've started emailing him about 5 years ago and helps me with my queries and requests to this day.

[dududud]

IEness is not autosomal.

It is, but also cultural.

[Peterski]

my dad's side is from Mecklenburg

Didn't you say from Lower Silesia before?

[cass]

Neophytes are usually considered to be more extremist than natives and want to cut off their roots.

[XenophobicPrussian]

Didn't you say from Lower Silesia before?
Nope, not once. I said my mom was born in Wroclaw although her family isn't from there.

[Peterski]

Nope, not once. I said my mom was born in Wroclaw although her family isn't from there.

Mecklenburg is not just 15% Slavic though.

It depends on which area of Mecklenburg.

[Leto]

XP is probably Central-ish European genetically. Neither a full blown Easterner like Russians nor a Westerner like the Dutch or Danish. Something in the middle.

[Lemminkäinen]

He is insanity personified indeed.

He is always neutral when speaking about Finnish genetics. IDK why such hatred. Only thing he objects is that R1a can have brought the Finnic language from Volga, although R1a is the only yDna connecting Volga and Estonia.

[pulstar]

Nope. I could be 99% Polish and still have the same views. I could be Somali and prefer NW Euro people, I could literally care less. It's just a complete waste of money. 1 genetic test is like 6 portions of quality wings from a quality pub. Why would I care about my own genetics? I got interested in genetics to see how they correlate with human features among various human populations, what ancient populations contributed to said populations, and other autistic reasons.


I agree with you. I got interested recently but just to check what potential health issues I might inherited. As for whether my ancestors came from Middle East, Siberia, Northern Europe or anywhere else, I could not care less. It is what it is :dunno:

[Rethel]

You are probably R1a or I2a - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTYnOR1-buE

At least one thing, which everybody should learn from Y testing is the fact, that probability
means here nothing. Everybody is, who he is, and probability will not change it. XP can be
even A1 or C1 and he'll remian as such. XP maybe dreams to be C1 but nobody can know.

If XP doesn't know anything about his provenance, except father, then any prediction will fail.
Of course coincidently can be, that he's original Połabian but noone can be sure until is tested.
A fact, that 50 y.a. his ancestor lived in Mecklenburg doesn't mean, that he was there 1k y.a.

Take for example only my case, which you once assumed, is early medieval, not knowing, that
it is form original Podlachian colonization from XVth century, and settler was from the far West.
Ba! Couple of miles on the north you find some probably mongolian people being seemingly very
masovian (as f.e. hearedes of Sasiny and Bacze). So, as you see, the very fact, that someone
is living in the one place even 600 years, doesn't ensure, that hg will be original from the place
of living. Then if long time residents since almost two dozens of generations cant be sure what
probable hg they can have - the much more people, who know nothing about their provenance.

[Rethel]

It is what it is :dunno:

But he said something different: even if he would be a negro, he would belive in the Borreby-fake-white cult, as a contradiction, to what I have said - and I said, what you had actualy agree to.

[Ford]

He hates South Slavs, maybe because we're brown and superior.

[pulstar]

But he said something different: even if he would be a negro, he would belive in the Borreby-fake-white cult, as a contradiction, to what I have said - and I said, what you had actualy agree to.

What I tried to say is: genetics is worthless in the sense of finding out your ancestry. Its just throwing away cash you can spend better otherwise. But if you use it to find some data that can be of actual importance, like a genomics test to find out potential health issues then its not a waste.

[Ford]

What I tried to say is: genetics is worthless in the sense of finding out your ancestry. Its just throwing away cash you can spend better otherwise. But if you use it to find some data that can be of actual importance, like a genomics test to find out potential health issues then its not a waste.

It's only a waste if you lack the interest, doesn't mean that everyone does. It's in fact a great complement to personal geneaology and also helps us understand historical migrations (among other things) in populations if you want to go that far.

[pulstar]

It's only a waste if you lack the interest, doesn't mean that everyone does. It's in fact a great complement to personal geneaology and also helps us understand historical migrations (among other things) in populations if you want to go that far.

In order to satisfy small curiousity of origin of your deceased ancestors you're giving away not only yours, but also your other living relatives private data that can be used in any malevolent way you can imagine.

[Ford]

In order to satisfy small curiousity of origin of your deceased ancestors you're giving away not only yours, but also your other living relatives private data that can be used in any malevolent way you can imagine.

Doesn't have to be a "small curiosity". Once again, not everyone has the same interests and they can also vary in importance.

Whether or not the data is used in a malevolent way is another discussion of its own. There still are laws and regulations for companies to follow, it's not like you're selling your soul to the devil. Some companies sell data for example to medical companies, some don't. Anyone can read the terms of service/use and decide accordingly.

[Lemminkäinen]

Doesn't have to be a "small curiosity". Once again, not everyone has the same interests and they can also vary in importance.

Whether or not the data is used in a malevolent way is another discussion of its own. There still are laws and regulations for companies to follow, it's not like you're selling your soul to the devil. Some companies sell data for example to medical companies, some don't. Anyone can read the terms of service/use and decide accordingly.

If you use US services actually you, like all non-USA persons, are "outlaws" as to their genetic data. All these terms they promise are only words without meaning. I am not afraid about cloning or any medical data, but I do feel objectionable the possibility that my American cousin could be jailed by my genetic data.

[pulstar]

Doesn't have to be a "small curiosity". Once again, not everyone has the same interests and they can also vary in importance.

Whether or not the data is used in a malevolent way is another discussion of its own. There still are laws and regulations for companies to follow, it's not like you're selling your soul to the devil. Some companies sell data for example to medical companies, some don't. Anyone can read the terms of service/use and decide accordingly.
As I said, this is no longer your personal thing, as when you're doing it you reveal information of your sibling(s) or other relative(s), and they should have a call in it too. Hence it should be treated accordingly. Terms of use often change, and besides that if they want to sell all of your data they'll find a way, some legal hole they can exploit.
In any case I think I really made a good point even without this comment, I thought that should be obvious, but seems not.

[Ford]

If you use US services actually you, like all non-USA persons, are "outlaws" as to their genetic data. All these terms they promise are only words without meaning. I am not afraid about cloning or any medical data, but I do feel objectionable the possibility that my American cousin could be jailed by my genetic data.

Valid point, although I wouldn't really feel bad if their dna through me was identified in say, a crime scene.


As I said, this is no longer your personal thing, as when you're doing it you reveal information of your sibling(s) or other relative(s), and they should have a call in it too. Hence it should be treated accordingly. Terms of use often change, and besides that if they want to sell all of your data they'll find a way, some legal hole they can exploit.
In any case I think I really made a good point even without this comment, I thought that should be obvious, but seems not.

I am only partially revealing information, that which they share with me. But unless they test they might just aswell not exist. Your point was based on your own paranoia which doesn't apply to everyone. It is a valid one, I should say, but it's not a big of a deal for a good number of people. It's a waste for you but you don't hold the objective truth to what is waste for everybody.

[Jana]

He hates South Slavs, maybe because we're brown and superior.

Does he? I feel more of lack of interest in us from his side than hate. We are simply not interesting for him due to lower levels of R1a/steppe ancestry and lighter pigmentation than northern Slavs.

[Rethel]

What I tried to say is: genetics is worthless in the sense of finding out your ancestry. Its just throwing away cash you can spend better otherwise.

Agree, exept Ytest.


It is, but also cultural.

If is, then when you start to wearing a kimono, drink tea from a bowl and training karate, you should be a Japanese.
Sorry, but no matter how hard you will try, you'll never be a heritable Japanese, even if you paint your face yellow.


R1a is the only yDna connecting Volga and Estonia.

N1 not?
R1a was there before Ugrofinns, so, it doesn;t matter.


In order to satisfy small curiousity of origin of your deceased ancestors

It depend's what you mean under the term "ancestors": if all ascendants, then you're right, if forefathers, then not.
The intrest about forefathers and agnates - own family - is obligatory and cannot be so small to not care at all.


As I said,

If the police will want to find you, it will be done in five minutes, without any genetics.
And someone who would want to use your genetics, will find it anyway. Really idk what
can be done differently, when f.e. FT will have your DNA - not even under your name.
On the one hand I was buying tests for several different people, even for those who
weren't my family, and other people on the other hand were buying for me, and what?

[Slavic Italian]

David has been a big help to me.

[pulstar]

If police will want to find you, it will be done in 5 min., without any genetics.

Here, they disagree (https://www.11alive.com/article/news/investigations/the-reveal/all-in-the-family-dna-investigation/85-179895c9-1b7e-4e93-8ab4-beae25a44a79) :lol:


And if someone who would want to use it, will want to know you genetics, will find it anyway.
Maybe so, since there are individiuals who share their data blindfully.

Really, idk, what can be done differently, when f.e. FT will have your DNA, not even under your name.
I bought many tests for many different people, not even my family, other people bought for me, and what?
So what you say? Its not enough that these could in future be used against those related to DNA test takers? The global trends are all about stripping individual rights. And I get seriously upset whenever some of my privacy rights gets stripped, that's what. If you don't mind living in an omni-observant, police dystopian dictatorship don't drag me with you. You might as well install cybernetic arm or antenna in your head.

[Rethel]

Here, they disagree (https://www.11alive.com/article/news/investigations/the-reveal/all-in-the-family-dna-investigation/85-179895c9-1b7e-4e93-8ab4-beae25a44a79) :lol:

Access denied.


So what you say? Its not enough that these could in future be used against those related to DNA test takers?

The fact, that you make DNA test, doesn't = that your DNA is known, as you
can described it as Pippi Langstrumpf from Nauru, or somebody else can just
give you a test bought under his own name and adress, not yours.


The global trends are all about stripping individual rights. And I get seriously upset whenever some of my privacy rights gets stripped, that's what. If you don't mind living in an omni-observant, police dystopian dictatorship don't drag me with you. You might as well install cybernetic arm or antenna in your head.

It will happen anyway, and your particular case is meaningless.
If you are going to be killed, you will be, regardless you did DNA test or not.

[pulstar]

Access denied.

Just Google: woman's DNA linked relative to 1980 rape and murder


It will happen anyway, and your particular case is meaningless.
If you are going to be killed, you will be, regardless you did DNA test or not.

That's the attitude due to which they managed to funk us up to the point where we are now, but ok, its meaningless :rolleyes:

I think I'm done here.

[Ülev]

Access denied.


(...)
because you live in Poland and use polish IP :laugh:

https://i.postimg.cc/bwBTwgqj/aaa2.png

[Slavic Italian]

Does he? I feel more of lack of interest in us from his side than hate. We are simply not interesting for him due to lower levels of R1a/steppe ancestry and lighter pigmentation than northern Slavs.

That seems more like it.

[Rethel]

Just Google: woman's DNA linked relative to 1980 rape and murder

Are you a rapist or murderer?


That's the attitude due to which they managed to funk us up to the point where we are now

The fact, that someone concludes some obvious thing, doesn't mean, that supports it, or
is a part of a reason of such and such situation. I just conclude what will happen anyway,
because most people doesn't care, as always. Expecting something else, would be naive,
especially, that it has to end in some way anyway, and noobody can stop it.

[XenophobicPrussian]

Does he? I feel more of lack of interest in us from his side than hate. We are simply not interesting for him due to lower levels of R1a/steppe ancestry and lighter pigmentation than northern Slavs.
lol Davidski doesn't hate anyone, certainly not South Slavs, atleast nothing on his blog that would show that, guy is talking out of his ass. Pointing out Slavs replaced the majority of native Balkan men is not "hating South Slavs". I would venture to say if he dislikes anyone it might be Celto-Germanics, Basques(one certain moronic poster that probably got on his nerves) and Indians(I can see why tbh, the amount of denial and just bad arguments Indians gave on his comment sections are incredible), although I doubt that's true either.

[Jana]

lol Davidski doesn't hate anyone, certainly not South Slavs, atleast nothing on his blog that would show that, guy is talking out of his ass. Pointing out Slavs replaced the majority of native Balkan men is not "hating South Slavs". I would venture to say if he dislikes anyone it might be Celto-Germanics, Basques(one certain moronic poster that probably got on his nerves) and Indians(I can see why tbh, the amount of denial and just bad arguments Indians gave on his comment sections are incredible), although I doubt that's true either.

I think he initially tought (like many) that our I2a isn't Slavic and that we are mostly Balkan native in ancestry. Which was mainstream view until few years ago.
Are you sure he dislikes Celto-Germanics?

I'd rather say he feels strange inferiority towards them (complexes from nazi era branding), thus is eager to prove how Slavs are true Aryans and not them.

[Dušan]

Maybe so, since there are individiuals who share their data blindfully.
.


Yeah, we should stop sharing our West Med and Baltic score on any random calculator.



What a paranoid.:lol:

[Leto]

@pulstar, are you a North Macedonian? Then you can probably do without testing ;)

[Slavic Italian]

I think he initially tought (like many) that our I2a isn't Slavic and that we are mostly Balkan native in ancestry. Which was mainstream view until few years ago.
Are you sure he dislikes Celto-Germanics?

I'd rather say he feels strange inferiority towards them (complexes from nazi era branding), thus is eager to prove how Slavs are true Aryans and not them.

If he hates anyone it is them.

[Jana]

@pulstar, are you a North Macedonian? Then you can probably do without testing ;)

He's mixed Macedonian, Serb, Croat and German as far as I know.
Never understood paranoia of us nobodies, no one is interested in some average Joe's dna secrets.

[JamesBond007]

What I tried to say is: genetics is worthless in the sense of finding out your ancestry. Its just throwing away cash you can spend better otherwise. But if you use it to find some data that can be of actual importance, like a genomics test to find out potential health issues then its not a waste.

What you said just contradicted yourself , more or less, genius :


Spatial Ancestry analysis (SPA) is a method for predicting ancestry or where an individual is from using the individual's DNA. Accurately modeling ancestry is an important step in identifying genetic variation involved in disease.

http://genetics.cs.ucla.edu/spa/

You can be ripped off in genomics tests too , for instance, sometimes they can contradict each other (just like some genetic calculators) AND anytime they tell you they can test your risk for mental diseases that is a big red flag at least given the current state of 'science' and 'mental health'.

BTW, both these tools basically agree with each other (at least for me) :

http://genetics.cs.ucla.edu/spa/download.html

https://gen3553.pagesperso-orange.fr/ADN/Europe.htm


They both put me in Southern England which is supposed to be accurate to within 400/500 kilomoters and thanks to XP's elite anthrotard skills he puts me anthropometrically in Wales/Cornwall(England)/Devonshire(England). My Y-DNA heatmap is decent for Devonshire too. My mtDNA is the same or similar to Queen Victoria's of England etc...

Anyway, Davidski did this for me :

Target: KevinG_scaled
Distance: 1.9624% / 0.01962356
42.8 England_IA
32.0 ISL_Viking_Age_Pre_Christian (Icelandic Viking Norse)
25.2 SVK_Poprad_MA (Deutschendorf Germanic)

^ It's not wrong per se but it seems to be too fine-grained especially for modern European populations and his modern G25 is just riddled with problems unlike ancients.

BTW, Mytrueancestry and Eurogenes K15 (which Davidski used to analyze ancient Anglo-Saxon samples in 2014 indicating it is the correct tool for NorthWest Europeans) puts my ancestry in SouthWest England too.

What seems to be worthless are commercial DNA tests which pander to your preconceived notions of who you are rather than upset the apple cart by telling you the objective scientific truth.

[savvas]

He is a fraud. A resentment-filled p*le with a deep hatred for western Euros. Retarded newbies don't see its obvious agenda cuz he's become more subtle with time, but it's there, always: https://eurogenes.blogspot.com/2019/09/commoner-or-elite.html
Ask the big-brained kikes on Anthrojewnica about his old pearls.

Let me tell you about modern R1bs (aka west euros) being descended from maghrebi bell beakers...


https://i.imgur.com/hqxUy6c.png
https://i.imgur.com/iJk2OUY.png

[XenophobicPrussian]

He is a fraud. A resentment-filled p*le with a deep hatred for western Euros. Retarded newbies don't see its obvious agenda cuz he's become more subtle with time, but it's there, always: https://eurogenes.blogspot.com/2019/09/commoner-or-elite.html
Ask the big-brained kikes on Anthrojewnica about his old pearls.

Let me tell you about modern R1bs (aka west euros) being descended from maghrebi bell beakers...


https://i.imgur.com/hqxUy6c.png
https://i.imgur.com/iJk2OUY.png
People's opinions can change you know, back in 2014 no one knew as much as we do now. Davidski is literally the one guy who proposed(and has been proven right) in 2017-2018 that Bell Beakers are just a sub-group of Corded Ware and descend from Single Grave culture in the Netherlands(which is directly contradictory to those quoted statements), and took the same northern route Corded Ware did, not from Yamnaya to Hungary/Balkans then to Western Europe like what the old theory presented, and definitely not from Iberia. That blog post is rather irrelevant, he says the only elite burial is I1, says R1a(and I1) will probably also be found among commoners, and somehow you take it as an anti-R1b tirade?

The guy literally has no agenda and he shifts his opinion with the information that comes out, you people are just weird.

He also used to be deep into physical anthropology circa early 2010s but now doesn't even allow it to be discussed on his blog. Again, he's definitely a proud Polack, but nothing like what people on this thread are saying.

[Leto]

Surely early Indo-European groups would have resembled the Poles more than modern Hindi and Urdu speakers do. David's ancestral homeland is the most R1a country in Europe. Low Baltic/low Steppe people out there are just being jealous :cool:

[pulstar]

He's mixed Macedonian, Serb, Croat and German as far as I know.
Never understood paranoia of us nobodies, no one is interested in some average Joe's dna secrets.

Probably what people in the past 70 years taught about: COINTELPRO, Project MKUltra, Operation Northwoods, or more recently PRISM program. And that's just USA (which is probably the most transparent country in the world when it comes to these shameless acts against both its own and foreign citizens).

[Defcon2]

He is a fraud. A resentment-filled p*le with a deep hatred for western Euros. Retarded newbies don't see its obvious agenda cuz he's become more subtle with time, but it's there, always: https://eurogenes.blogspot.com/2019/09/commoner-or-elite.html
Ask the big-brained kikes on Anthrojewnica about his old pearls.

Let me tell you about modern R1bs (aka west euros) being descended from maghrebi bell beakers...


https://i.imgur.com/hqxUy6c.png
https://i.imgur.com/iJk2OUY.png

Basques, Sardinians and Northwest Africans are very similar and share the same ancient western Mediterranean origin, harsh words.

I must be North African directly, I am going to dust off the Guanche flag that I abandoned because of what was hidden to avoid revealing my true ancestry.