View Full Version : New West Asian samples in G25 modern sheets / Vahaduo
Lucas
12-13-2020, 12:52 AM
There are unofficially converted by Davidski and not included in his official sheets on blog but were posted on other forum.
Here are scaled averages
Armenian_B,0.102536,0.139635,-0.0562035,-0.0648961,-0.0259586,-0.018007,0.0036621,-0.00645353,-0.0252621,-0.00039185,0.00363745,0.00162103,-0.00174925,0.0020162,-0.00720673,0.000475083,0.00368982,0.00146755,0.002 1201,-0.002003,0.00128315,0.00185892,-0.0007868,-0.000379567,0.00103183
Cypriot_B,0.101872,0.146681,-0.0343886,-0.0680319,-0.00240419,-0.0226075,-0.000514062,-0.00387975,-0.00297837,0.0168911,0.00344056,0.00132075,0.00013 ,0.00221056,-0.0131309,0.00100281,0.00567994,0.000997688,0.0037 945,-0.00173519,-0.00196525,0.00182388,-0.00113237,0.00273369,-0.000770938
Iranian_B,0.0790378,0.0804601,-0.0639448,-0.018579,-0.0462081,0.00273993,0.00394897,-0.00190848,-0.0264568,-0.014303,-0.00118937,-0.00137311,0.00298926,-0.00260739,0.00554157,0.0123667,-0.00428241,0.0018627,0.00308724,-0.00999296,-0.00142655,-0.00412981,-0.00136322,-0.00429389,0.00483441
Iraqi_B,0.0797672,0.126697,-0.058416,-0.0598454,-0.0273527,-0.0180108,-0.0001739,-0.00514594,-0.0088682,-0.004031,0.00378358,-0.00558102,0.0110277,1.646e-05,-0.0009717,0.00940854,-0.0038281,0.00190284,0.00241088,-0.00247124,0.0013327,0.00164946,-0.00160718,-0.00021928,0.00061556
Jordanian_B,0.0544763,0.13516,-0.0473419,-0.076213,-0.0119664,-0.0277205,-0.00576028,-0.0041107,0.0105306,0.00189444,0.00563449,-0.00687995,0.0164979,0.000112047,-0.00199795,0.004434,-0.00357809,0.000589279,0.000540674,0.00351912,-2.90698e-06,0.00154416,-0.000679302,0.00154677,-0.000114186
Lebanese_Christian_Greek_Orthodox,0.0908202,0.1464 02,-0.051113,-0.0803669,-0.0140275,-0.0291927,-0.00221884,-0.00701398,0.00135563,0.00954412,0.00586484,-0.00481665,0.00994991,0.00128028,-0.00811798,0.00488416,-0.0010734,0.00253077,0.00289981,-0.00176544,-0.000969209,0.00206474,-0.00111505,0.00152167,-0.000543023
Lebanese_Christian_Maronite,0.0915738,0.145949,-0.0510679,-0.0790009,-0.013175,-0.0280522,-0.00201302,-0.00566449,0.00137379,0.00829696,0.00640051,-0.00535842,0.0103865,0.0025993,-0.00781796,0.00570628,-0.000546226,0.00210349,0.00248077,-0.00164466,3.76792e-05,0.00165881,-0.00128594,0.00188925,0.0010754
Lebanese_Muslim_Shia,0.0694321,0.12964,-0.0517517,-0.0651629,-0.016337,-0.0205502,-0.00218214,-0.00460863,0.00132063,0.00291049,0.00506654,-0.00441891,0.0097096,0.00182846,-0.00291991,0.00578469,-0.00168751,0.000633514,0.0013216,-0.00183297,-0.000167543,0.000886771,-0.000707771,0.001859,0.00127614
Lebanese_Muslim_Sunni,0.0559428,0.130722,-0.0463458,-0.0675895,-0.0167951,-0.0219849,-0.00358004,-0.00353504,0.00257172,0.00170996,0.00460209,-0.00430789,0.010713,0.00169253,-0.00317349,0.00313132,-0.00410287,0.000552596,0.001396,-0.00211274,-0.000530979,0.000444638,-4.72128e-05,0.000192255,-0.00023183
Syrian_B,0.0594445,0.12511,-0.0521966,-0.0653233,-0.0196569,-0.0208814,-0.00296565,-0.00399118,0.00133376,-0.00286446,0.00412828,-0.0069783,0.0139971,1.16479e-05,-0.00201479,0.00893018,-0.00340645,0.00148104,0.00234046,0.000723901,0.001 01227,0.00244692,-0.00173765,0.00117275,0.000328901
Turkish_B,0.103345,0.105667,-0.0243098,-0.0318942,-0.0165632,-0.00742995,0.00491695,-0.00107097,-0.021454,-0.00228033,0.000266385,0.0020789,-0.00310669,0.00317946,-0.00441964,-9.18718e-05,0.0045,0.000315026,0.00314569,-0.00252041,-0.000998256,-0.00117626,5.38462e-05,-0.00103195,0.000614051
Ukrainian_B,0.131276,0.120848,0.0634817,0.052326,0 .037956,0.0224043,0.00846033,0.011461,0.00456767,-0.0137893,-0.00276067,-0.008093,0.016105,0.0201847,-0.0127127,-0.00172367,0.00186867,0.00181567,0.005028,-0.00283467,-0.00124767,-0.00416267,-0.000369667,-0.00542233,0.000439333
But I added to G25 sheets on Vahaduo of course:) There are added at the end of every sheet, not alphabetically.
http://g25vahaduo.genetics.ovh/G25modern-scaled-averages.htm
http://g25vahaduo.genetics.ovh/G25modern-scaled.htm
http://g25vahaduo.genetics.ovh/G25modern.htm
Not yet added to unscaled averages.
Lebanese Shia, Sunnite, Greek Orthodox and Maronite are ofc most interesting.
Iraqis look for me like mostly like Iraqi Jews / Chalddeans / Assyrians. Very few proper Sunni or Shia Iraqis among them.
Just for laughs
Target: Luso_scaled
Distance: 7.2288% / 0.07228791
56.6 Ukrainian_B
29.8 Cypriot_B
13.6 Jordanian_B
Я знав, що за походженням я був слов’янином, коли хрестився у горілці. Дякую сука
Adamm
12-13-2020, 01:04 AM
https://i.imgur.com/UuA6tu8.png
celticdragongod
12-13-2020, 05:07 AM
Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.06733038 Ukrainian_B
0.14958394 Turkish_B
0.17490407 Cypriot_B
0.19211968 Armenian_B
0.19306623 Lebanese_Muslim_Shia
0.19325451 Iranian_B
0.19460221 Iraqi_B
0.19668353 Lebanese_Muslim_Sunni
0.19734365 Lebanese_Christian_Maronite
0.19866896 Syrian_B
0.19891508 Lebanese_Christian_Greek_Orthodox
0.20370887 Jordanian_B
Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 6.5621% / 0.06562081
91.4 Ukrainian_B
8.6 Cypriot_B
oszkar07
12-13-2020, 07:57 AM
Target: OszkarArmenianWife
Distance: 3.0620% / 0.03062036 | ADC: 0.25x RC
95.6 Armenian_B
2.6 Turkish_B
1.8 Iranian_B
Distance: 2.4072% / 0.02407209
Target: KypFather_scaled
58.1 Iranian_B
41.9 Turkish_B
Trouble
12-13-2020, 08:33 AM
I have run the Iraqi samples. There's a fair number of Muslims actually. Seems to be a healthy mix of Christians and Muslims. I think it's fairly obvious that the people getting 90%+ Assyrian/Christian/Mandaean are indeed Christians while the ones getting substantial Persian, Kurdish, and Arabian are all Arab/Muslim or maybe Turkmen. There appears to be one outlier that is most likely mixed as its fit is horrible with west asian groups. I didn't use a levantine source because they seem too strongly attracted to it(almost all the samples were getting it).
Target: Iraqi:20AJ57
Distance: 1.4410% / 0.01441044
97.6 Assyrian
2.4 BedouinB
Target: Iraqi:19BA66
Distance: 1.5355% / 0.01535533
93.2 Assyrian
6.8 BedouinB
Target: Iraqi:18AJ68
Distance: 2.2626% / 0.02262554
78.8 Assyrian
15.4 NIRQCHR01
5.8 BedouinB
Target: Iraqi:17BA66
Distance: 1.8384% / 0.01838372
33.0 BedouinB
25.6 Assyrian
19.8 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
18.4 Kurdish
3.2 Somali_Kenya
Target: Iraqi:16BA65
Distance: 1.0110% / 0.01011034
36.2 Iranian_Fars
20.4 BedouinB
19.6 BedouinA
8.4 NIRQCHR01
5.8 Mandaean01
5.6 Dinka
3.6 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
0.4 Somali_Kenya
Target: Iraqi:15BA65
Distance: 1.8589% / 0.01858912
56.0 Iranian_Fars
32.0 Kurdish
11.8 NIRQCHR01
0.2 Somali_Kenya
Target: Iraqi:15AJ68
Distance: 1.0248% / 0.01024763
50.2 Iranian_Fars
28.8 BedouinB
11.6 NIRQCHR01
4.0 Somali_Kenya
3.6 Mandaean01
1.6 Assyrian
0.2 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
Target: Iraqi:14AJ68
Distance: 1.2509% / 0.01250889
38.6 Mandaean01
27.0 Iranian_Fars
13.4 BedouinA
12.0 BedouinB
6.6 Assyrian
2.4 Dinka
Target: Iraqi:14AJ137
Distance: 0.7867% / 0.00786671
39.2 Kurdish
31.8 Iranian_Fars
15.6 Assyrian
5.8 BedouinB
3.8 BedouinA
3.8 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
Target: Iraqi:13R59
Distance: 1.9787% / 0.01978687
55.8 NIRQCHR01
32.8 Assyrian
8.8 BedouinB
2.6 BedouinA
Target: Iraqi:13R40
Distance: 2.0013% / 0.02001282
96.0 Assyrian
4.0 Kurdish
Target: Iraqi:13BA66
Distance: 1.3549% / 0.01354901
64.2 Assyrian
28.2 NIRQCHR01
5.0 BedouinB
2.6 BedouinA
Target: Iraqi:13BA65
Distance: 1.4135% / 0.01413473
26.8 NIRQCHR01
22.4 BedouinA
17.0 BedouinB
14.2 Assyrian
10.4 Kurdish
6.6 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
2.6 Somali_Kenya
Target: Iraqi:12R40
Distance: 1.1070% / 0.01107018
83.4 Assyrian
9.4 Kurdish
3.2 BedouinB
2.6 NIRQCHR01
1.4 BedouinA
Target: Iraqi:12BA66
Distance: 1.7784% / 0.01778413
76.8 Assyrian
20.6 NIRQCHR01
2.6 BedouinB
Target: Iraqi:12BA65
Distance: 1.8079% / 0.01807908
66.2 Assyrian
17.6 Kurdish
8.8 BedouinB
7.4 NIRQCHR01
Target: Iraqi:12AJ49
Distance: 2.5160% / 0.02516008
47.2 NIRQCHR01
29.4 BedouinA
17.8 Assyrian
5.2 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
0.4 Iranian_Fars
Target: Iraqi:11BA66
Distance: 1.1051% / 0.01105113
53.6 BedouinB
24.2 Kurdish
16.2 Assyrian
6.0 Dinka
Target: Iraqi:11BA65
Distance: 1.4893% / 0.01489254
41.6 BedouinA
22.2 BedouinB
14.2 Iranian_Fars
13.8 Kurdish
5.2 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
3.0 Assyrian
Target: Iraqi:11AR126
Distance: 8.4466% / 0.08446566
40.0 Kurdish
30.8 BedouinA
12.8 Assyrian
10.2 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
6.2 NIRQCHR01
Target: Iraqi:10BA66
Distance: 1.8354% / 0.01835419
53.6 Iranian_Fars
19.0 BedouinB
12.8 NIRQCHR01
6.8 Assyrian
4.4 Dinka
1.8 Kurdish
1.6 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
Target: Iraqi:10BA65
Distance: 2.0305% / 0.02030505
36.4 BedouinB
31.4 NIRQCHR01
15.0 Iranian_Fars
7.8 BedouinA
4.6 Somali_Kenya
3.8 Assyrian
0.6 Dinka
0.4 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
Target: Iraqi:9R180
Distance: 1.5278% / 0.01527825
81.4 Assyrian
11.2 BedouinA
7.4 BedouinB
Target: Iraqi:9BA66
Distance: 1.0145% / 0.01014522
50.6 Iranian_Fars
19.6 BedouinA
19.4 BedouinB
6.6 Assyrian
1.8 Somali_Kenya
1.4 Dinka
0.6 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
Target: Iraqi:9BA65
Distance: 1.1979% / 0.01197855
27.8 Iranian_Fars
22.8 BedouinB
20.0 BedouinA
13.2 Assyrian
7.6 Mandaean01
4.8 Dinka
2.2 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
1.6 Kurdish
Target: Iraqi:8BA66
Distance: 1.1956% / 0.01195601
89.8 Assyrian
6.6 Mandaean01
2.6 BedouinB
1.0 BedouinA
Target: Iraqi:7BA66
Distance: 1.5335% / 0.01533515
51.6 Assyrian
17.6 NIRQCHR01
17.2 Iranian_Fars
11.4 BedouinB
2.2 Kurdish
Target: Iraqi:7BA65
Distance: 1.1977% / 0.01197706
88.8 Assyrian
11.2 BedouinB
Target: Iraqi:7AJ55
Distance: 1.1782% / 0.01178175
56.8 Assyrian
19.6 Mandaean01
10.6 Iranian_Fars
6.6 NIRQCHR01
6.4 BedouinB
Target: Iraqi:7AJ152
Distance: 1.5834% / 0.01583418
31.2 Iranian_Fars
26.2 BedouinA
18.6 Assyrian
8.6 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
8.4 Kurdish
7.0 BedouinB
Target: Iraqi:7AJ100
Distance: 1.4427% / 0.01442687
30.6 BedouinB
25.8 Iranian_Fars
19.4 Kurdish
11.2 Somali_Kenya
10.0 Assyrian
3.0 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
Target: Iraqi:6BA66
Distance: 1.5067% / 0.01506674
43.8 Kurdish
19.0 Iranian_Fars
9.8 Mandaean01
9.2 BedouinA
9.2 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
9.0 BedouinB
Target: Iraqi:6BA1
Distance: 1.2343% / 0.01234257
56.2 Assyrian
18.2 Kurdish
16.0 Mandaean01
6.2 BedouinB
1.8 BedouinA
1.6 Iranian_Fars
Target: Iraqi:5BA66
Distance: 0.7199% / 0.00719875
31.2 NIRQCHR01
28.0 Iranian_Fars
16.4 BedouinA
12.8 Kurdish
8.2 BedouinB
1.8 Dinka
1.2 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
0.4 Somali_Kenya
Target: Iraqi:5AJ67
Distance: 1.6793% / 0.01679271
43.4 Iranian_Fars
23.0 BedouinB
19.0 BedouinA
10.0 Mandaean01
3.2 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
1.4 Dinka
Target: Iraqi:5AJ100
Distance: 1.6533% / 0.01653325
26.8 BedouinB
24.6 Iranian_Fars
17.6 BedouinA
13.0 Kurdish
11.8 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
2.4 Somali_Kenya
1.8 Dinka
1.0 Assyrian
1.0 Mandaean01
Target: Iraqi:5AJ1
Distance: 6.6317% / 0.06631661
72.4 Kurdish
10.4 Assyrian
7.6 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
5.2 BedouinA
4.4 Iranian_Fars
Target: Iraqi:4R114
Distance: 2.5589% / 0.02558939
72.2 Assyrian
20.0 BedouinB
7.8 BedouinA
Target: Iraqi:4BA66
Distance: 1.2856% / 0.01285569
73.8 Assyrian
17.6 Kurdish
4.4 BedouinA
4.2 BedouinB
Target: Iraqi:4AL78
Distance: 1.4768% / 0.01476788
27.4 Mandaean01
26.4 Assyrian
15.0 BedouinA
14.0 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
11.6 Kurdish
5.6 Iranian_Fars
Target: Iraqi:3AJ67
Distance: 1.4190% / 0.01419010
54.2 Assyrian
26.0 NIRQCHR01
9.8 Kurdish
6.4 BedouinA
3.6 BedouinB
Target: Iraqi:2R59
Distance: 1.3783% / 0.01378289
53.0 Assyrian
31.4 Mandaean01
9.0 BedouinA
4.6 NIRQCHR01
1.0 BedouinB
1.0 Kurdish
Target: Iraqi:2R40
Distance: 1.5759% / 0.01575859
57.0 Assyrian
21.2 Mandaean01
18.2 NIRQCHR01
3.6 BedouinB
Target: Iraqi:2BA66
Distance: 1.1733% / 0.01173271
61.2 Assyrian
16.4 Mandaean01
12.4 Kurdish
8.6 BedouinA
1.4 BedouinB
Target: Iraqi:2AQ191
Distance: 2.4502% / 0.02450200
75.4 Assyrian
16.8 BedouinB
7.8 NIRQCHR01
Target: Iraqi:2AJ67
Distance: 0.8505% / 0.00850541
39.2 Iranian_Fars
24.6 Assyrian
21.6 BedouinA
11.2 BedouinB
2.4 Somali_Kenya
1.0 Dinka
Target: Iraqi:1BAJ137
Distance: 1.3200% / 0.01319970
44.8 Mandaean01
28.4 Assyrian
16.4 Kurdish
9.4 BedouinA
1.0 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
Target: Iraqi:1BA66
Distance: 2.0134% / 0.02013376
91.6 Assyrian
8.4 BedouinA
Target: Iraqi:1BA2
Distance: 1.1138% / 0.01113817
76.8 Assyrian
11.6 Iranian_Fars
7.2 Kurdish
4.4 BedouinB
Target: Iraqi:1AJ67
Distance: 0.9353% / 0.00935324
46.4 Assyrian
25.2 Mandaean01
18.6 NIRQCHR01
4.6 BedouinA
4.4 Kurdish
0.8 BedouinB
Kaspias
12-13-2020, 09:19 AM
Unscaled coordinates here: https://pastebin.com/raw/UmhUkBcF
Plenty of new Balkan samples are also available among Turkish. I will be relabeling them.
https://i.ibb.co/J39c2RT/YEN-PCA.png
Hapanuwa
12-13-2020, 09:19 AM
Target: Hapanuwa_scaled
Distance: 3.8087% / 0.03808694
100.0 Turkish_B
Distance to: Hapanuwa_scaled
0.03808694 Turkish_B
0.07908390 Iranian_B
0.08046450 Iraqi_B
0.08274284 Lebanese_Muslim_Shia
0.08391748 Cypriot_B
0.08408785 Armenian_B
0.08646059 Syrian_B
0.08875588 Lebanese_Muslim_Sunni
0.09519230 Lebanese_Christian_Maronite
0.09638434 Lebanese_Christian_Greek_Orthodox
0.09917987 Jordanian_B
0.15164154 Ukrainian_B
Cypriot similaritiy map (done by Ph2ter)
https://i.imgur.com/YYkxzkl.png
Impaler
12-13-2020, 09:30 AM
Target: Impaler_scaled
Distance: 2.7372% / 0.02737197
49.6 Ukrainian_B
28.4 Cypriot_B
22.0 Iranian_B
Target: Impaler
Distance: 0.8464% / 0.00846364
46.6 Turkish
22.2 Ukrainian
12.0 Iranian
11.2 Cypriot
8.0 Lebanese_Shiia_Muslim
Ritz06
12-14-2020, 06:19 AM
With norwegian added:
Target:
Distance: 1.7085% / 0.01708456 | ADC: 0.25x RC
46.4 Norwegian
29.6 Turkish_B
24.0 Iranian_B
Mingle
12-15-2020, 10:01 PM
Some of the new Iranian samples aren't too far from me.
<tbody>
Distance to:
Mingle
0.03180125
Pashtun_Uthmankhel
0.03415399
Kalash
0.03572363
Pashtun_Tarkalani
0.03599600
Pashtun_Yusufzai
0.03691067
Pashtun_Kandahar
0.03982220
Pashtun_North_Afghanistan
0.04283195
Kamboj
0.04581909
Iranian:5AQ103
0.04723576
Iranian:13AQ100
0.04751555
Pashtun_Kabul
0.04788619
Iranian:14AQ100
0.04796257
Kho_Singanali
0.04835922
Iranian:12AQ102
0.04857009
Iranian:7AM153
0.05101394
Iranian:9AQ101
0.05276783
Ror
0.05425971
Balochi
0.05450635
Brahui
0.05639530
Punjabi_Jatt
0.05728370
Pamiri_Ishkashim
0.05741747
Punjabi_Khatri
0.05789640
Iranian:11AQ103
0.05861481
Kohistani
0.05904965
Iranian:3AQ103
0.06227999
Sindhi
</tbody>
Lucas
12-15-2020, 10:29 PM
Some of the new Iranian samples aren't too far from me.
<tbody>
Distance to:
Mingle
0.03180125
Pashtun_Uthmankhel
0.03415399
Kalash
0.03572363
Pashtun_Tarkalani
0.03599600
Pashtun_Yusufzai
0.03691067
Pashtun_Kandahar
0.03982220
Pashtun_North_Afghanistan
0.04283195
Kamboj
0.04581909
Iranian:5AQ103
0.04723576
Iranian:13AQ100
0.04751555
Pashtun_Kabul
0.04788619
Iranian:14AQ100
0.04796257
Kho_Singanali
0.04835922
Iranian:12AQ102
0.04857009
Iranian:7AM153
0.05101394
Iranian:9AQ101
0.05276783
Ror
0.05425971
Balochi
0.05450635
Brahui
0.05639530
Punjabi_Jatt
0.05728370
Pamiri_Ishkashim
0.05741747
Punjabi_Khatri
0.05789640
Iranian:11AQ103
0.05861481
Kohistani
0.05904965
Iranian:3AQ103
0.06227999
Sindhi
</tbody>
There is so many Iranian samples in this update that maybe someone could divide them geographically using PCA?
Ion Basescul
12-15-2020, 10:40 PM
I ran everyone against basic components.
Armenians
https://i.ibb.co/bXsXY46/image.png
https://i.ibb.co/BsB3Zts/image.png
Ion Basescul
12-15-2020, 10:45 PM
Cypriots
https://i.ibb.co/grCyrP2/image.png
Ion Basescul
12-15-2020, 10:53 PM
Iranians
https://i.ibb.co/PcdZZgW/image.png
https://i.ibb.co/8cr0L79/image.png
https://i.ibb.co/rbcJcxD/image.png
https://i.ibb.co/cYMJf3s/image.png
https://i.ibb.co/q03HyVb/image.png
https://i.ibb.co/vHk1Q2K/image.png
gixajo
12-15-2020, 11:05 PM
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Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 7.4046% / 0.07404559
61.0 Ukrainian_B
39.0 Cypriot_B
Target: gixajo_dad_scaled
Distance: 7.4957% / 0.07495696
52.2 Ukrainian_B
47.8 Cypriot_B
Target: gixajo_mom_scaled
Distance: 7.7797% / 0.07779708
66.2 Ukrainian_B
33.8 Cypriot_B
Ion Basescul
12-15-2020, 11:06 PM
Lebanese
Orthodox Christians
https://i.ibb.co/sW1RjcT/image.png
https://i.ibb.co/C9SKW3D/image.png
Maronite Christians
https://i.ibb.co/7RZFbYQ/image.png
https://i.ibb.co/D4jxQ35/image.png
Shia Muslims
https://i.ibb.co/V9WBm5n/image.png
https://i.ibb.co/yVsTw89/image.png
Sunni Muslims
https://i.ibb.co/HzKgZnG/image.png
https://i.ibb.co/qDtk1Hx/image.png
Ion Basescul
12-15-2020, 11:14 PM
Iraqis
https://i.ibb.co/BBcDL8z/image.png
https://i.ibb.co/34P42Vr/image.png
Ion Basescul
12-15-2020, 11:17 PM
Jordanians
https://i.ibb.co/T0hqzfD/image.png
https://i.ibb.co/GHPNwwp/image.png
Mingle
12-15-2020, 11:19 PM
There is so many Iranian samples in this update that maybe someone could divide them geographically using PCA?
Its still too hard. The Eastern Iranian ones are gonna be from Sistan, Baluchistan, Bandar, and Khorasan. But these regions overlap genetically and they are completely exotic in the field of G25 (even genetics in general in some cases) so their genetics aren't familiar enough to make accurate statements off of. If the authors of the study could give detail on which regions the samples are from, it would help a lot.
But I made some scaled averages with what I could with some outside help (Kyp helped with the Azeri average and Aren with the Assyrian).
Turkmen_Iran,0.08441866667,-0.01134008333,-0.0224385,-0.01012066667,-0.042495,-0.003067833333,0.005992583333,0.0010575,-0.02144083333,-0.0099015,-0.01051458333,0.0005495,0.002105833333,-0.004014166667,0.004082833333,0.007546583333,0.001 10825,0.0009395833333,0.001654916667,-0.00241775,-0.0049185,-0.002215166667,-0.002783416667,-0.002158833333,0.001416916667
Azerbaijani_Iran,0.09286635294,0.08416929412,-0.05086688235,-0.035682,-0.03683923529,-0.004019235294,0.003566470588,-0.003135588235,-0.02687682353,-0.008683,-0.0001337647059,-4.59E-04,0.002212294118,-0.001165705882,-0.0001357058824,0.007627705882,0.002254941176,0.00 05067647059,0.001264235294,-0.005267294118,-0.0008954117647,-0.001251058824,-0.001870411765,-0.002877647059,0.001831529412
Contains two outliers that are around 1/4 SSA:
Iranian_Bandari_AM187,0.00426825,0.073625875,-0.075848375,0.00056525,-0.051432625,0.012480375,0.0008225,0.001125,-0.020529125,-0.014556125,0.000629375,-0.002997375,0.004868625,-0.00493725,0.006650375,0.0234685,-0.0042375,0.003610625,0.004682375,-0.012709125,-0.001169875,-0.0064145,-0.001556,-0.005512875,0.00601725
Same as above but with the two outliers removed:
Iranian_Bandari,0.04837466667,0.0766725,-0.08208666667,-0.002261,-0.05447166667,0.01069083333,0.002506666667,-0.0002691666667,-0.02171366667,-0.01725166667,0.000406,-0.003646833333,0.007011833333,-0.006239,0.0088445,0.024949,-0.001521166667,0.0032305,0.005300333333,-0.01463183333,-0.001247833333,-0.0067185,-0.0008421666667,-0.007752,0.008422166667
I also made some averages based on them all ending in the same final digits, but I'm unsure of their region or ethnicity. I'll likely post the Iranian Baluch average by tomorrow.
Iranian_AQ100,0.070115,0.0617442,-0.088548,0.0165376,-0.0605036,0.0173472,0.006251,0.0013384,-0.023193,-0.020556,-0.0025982,-0.0008992,0.0051734,-0.0062756,0.0108846,0.018801,-0.012882,0.0034966,0.0029662,-0.0203346,0.0008236,-0.0124642,-0.0031058,-0.0105074,0.0102506
Iranian_AQ101,0.0824078,0.070884,-0.0717284,0.0037468,-0.0581646,0.0119922,0.000799,-0.0026768,-0.0258108,-0.0157816,-0.0024034,-0.0013188,0.0025568,-0.0059728,0.011319,0.0133386,-0.0082924,0.0028886,0.0006788,-0.0157076,-0.0000002,-0.0063806,-0.0023416,-0.0062176,0.0072566
Iranian_AQ102,0.07113925,0.05686975,-0.091923,0.0224485,-0.062627,0.02774975,0.00616875,0.00173075,-0.0232135,-0.01840575,-0.00446575,-0.0016485,0.00680125,-0.00450725,0.0182205,0.02804275,-0.0164285,0.0025655,0.00883025,-0.023355,-0.0011855,-0.01471475,-0.00138625,-0.01382725,0.01194475
Iranian_AQ103,0.07512333333,0.03892833333,-0.094406,0.025194,-0.07006433333,0.030492,0.0047,0,-0.02236133333,-0.01852733333,-0.004763,-0.003097333333,0.009365666667,-0.003486,0.01538166667,0.022054,-0.01069166667,0.003378666667,0.007751333333,-0.01963466667,-0.00287,-0.008160666667,-0.0006983333333,-0.016749,0.01217433333
One non-Iranian average:
Assyrian_Iraq,0.09665475,0.1350230417,-0.06183204167,-0.064317375,-0.03018504167,-0.02003370833,0.001693958333,-0.006038208333,-0.01887591667,-0.003394041667,0.004309916667,-0.002760041667,0.006218958333,0.0006994583333,-0.003038913043,0.008126666667,-0.000472625,0.001594083333,0.004011434783,-0.004545695652,-0.0007485833333,0.001169458333,-0.0009244166667,-0.0006175,0.001756333333
Also, check this thread: https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?334575-Updated-G25-Averages
Ion Basescul
12-15-2020, 11:23 PM
Syrians
https://i.ibb.co/SJVfp7R/image.png
https://i.ibb.co/DRjvNr2/image.png
https://i.ibb.co/pP11dQQ/image.png
Ion Basescul
12-15-2020, 11:27 PM
Turkish
https://i.ibb.co/vQcK1TP/image.png
https://i.ibb.co/hssTs1P/image.png
Ukrainians
https://i.ibb.co/Wg7FZ1C/image.png
JohnnyP
12-15-2020, 11:34 PM
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Dr_Maul
12-15-2020, 11:44 PM
Probably should have divided the Iranian ones on ethnicity... a bunch of Baloch and Turkmen. Although it does make sense to have a "national" average so I get it. Nice to see so many Iranian samples at least, I wonder if they did haplogroups on them?
altaic
12-16-2020, 03:53 PM
Funny thing I may pass best in Ukraine :roll:
Target: Altaic_scaled :ranger
Distance: 1.4845% / 0.01484463 | ADC: 0.25x RC
54.6 Turkish_B
25.2 Armenian_B
20.2 Iranian_B
Target: Altaic_scaled
Distance: 1.4817% / 0.01481699
49.6 Turkish_B
27.4 Armenian_B
21.6 Iranian_B
1.4 Ukrainian_B
Distance to: Altaic_scaled
0.02545447 Turkish_B
0.04853526 Armenian_B
0.05113921 Iraqi_B
0.05783032 Iranian_B
Reminded me of my dad's 23andme regions ;)
High likely 8 cities from Western Anatolia Turkey
High likely 9 cities from Eastern Anatolia Turkey
Likely 2 cities from Iran (Tehran, East Azerbaijan)
Likely 2 cities from Iraq (Nineveh, Baghdad)
No specific cities but possible match from Armenia
Iranians
https://i.ibb.co/PcdZZgW/image.png
Are all these from a paper?
Anyone know if these samples are publicly available or were used in a study?
Negah
12-16-2020, 05:50 PM
Target: Negah_scaled
Distance: 2.4559% / 0.02455937
73.2 Iranian_B
24.0 Armenian_B
2.8 Ukrainian_B
Distance to: Negah_scaled
0.03362055 Iranian_B
0.05702853 Turkish_B
0.06197988 Iraqi_B
0.07109809 Armenian_B
0.07691305 Lebanese_Muslim_Shia
0.07815097 Syrian_B
0.08410320 Lebanese_Muslim_Sunni
0.09533927 Lebanese_Christian_Maronite
0.09688185 Lebanese_Christian_Greek_Orthodox
0.09834552 Jordanian_B
0.09885442 Cypriot_B
0.18234051 Ukrainian_B
Negah
12-16-2020, 05:56 PM
I have run the Iraqi samples. There's a fair number of Muslims actually. Seems to be a healthy mix of Christians and Muslims. I think it's fairly obvious that the people getting 90%+ Assyrian/Christian/Mandaean are indeed Christians while the ones getting substantial Persian, Kurdish, and Arabian are all Arab/Muslim or maybe Turkmen. There appears to be one outlier that is most likely mixed as its fit is horrible with west asian groups. I didn't use a levantine source because they seem too strongly attracted to it(almost all the samples were getting it).
Target: Iraqi:20AJ57
Distance: 1.4410% / 0.01441044
97.6 Assyrian
2.4 BedouinB
Target: Iraqi:19BA66
Distance: 1.5355% / 0.01535533
93.2 Assyrian
6.8 BedouinB
Target: Iraqi:18AJ68
Distance: 2.2626% / 0.02262554
78.8 Assyrian
15.4 NIRQCHR01
5.8 BedouinB
Target: Iraqi:17BA66
Distance: 1.8384% / 0.01838372
33.0 BedouinB
25.6 Assyrian
19.8 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
18.4 Kurdish
3.2 Somali_Kenya
Target: Iraqi:16BA65
Distance: 1.0110% / 0.01011034
36.2 Iranian_Fars
20.4 BedouinB
19.6 BedouinA
8.4 NIRQCHR01
5.8 Mandaean01
5.6 Dinka
3.6 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
0.4 Somali_Kenya
Target: Iraqi:15BA65
Distance: 1.8589% / 0.01858912
56.0 Iranian_Fars
32.0 Kurdish
11.8 NIRQCHR01
0.2 Somali_Kenya
Target: Iraqi:15AJ68
Distance: 1.0248% / 0.01024763
50.2 Iranian_Fars
28.8 BedouinB
11.6 NIRQCHR01
4.0 Somali_Kenya
3.6 Mandaean01
1.6 Assyrian
0.2 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
Target: Iraqi:14AJ68
Distance: 1.2509% / 0.01250889
38.6 Mandaean01
27.0 Iranian_Fars
13.4 BedouinA
12.0 BedouinB
6.6 Assyrian
2.4 Dinka
Target: Iraqi:14AJ137
Distance: 0.7867% / 0.00786671
39.2 Kurdish
31.8 Iranian_Fars
15.6 Assyrian
5.8 BedouinB
3.8 BedouinA
3.8 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
Target: Iraqi:13R59
Distance: 1.9787% / 0.01978687
55.8 NIRQCHR01
32.8 Assyrian
8.8 BedouinB
2.6 BedouinA
Target: Iraqi:13R40
Distance: 2.0013% / 0.02001282
96.0 Assyrian
4.0 Kurdish
Target: Iraqi:13BA66
Distance: 1.3549% / 0.01354901
64.2 Assyrian
28.2 NIRQCHR01
5.0 BedouinB
2.6 BedouinA
Target: Iraqi:13BA65
Distance: 1.4135% / 0.01413473
26.8 NIRQCHR01
22.4 BedouinA
17.0 BedouinB
14.2 Assyrian
10.4 Kurdish
6.6 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
2.6 Somali_Kenya
Target: Iraqi:12R40
Distance: 1.1070% / 0.01107018
83.4 Assyrian
9.4 Kurdish
3.2 BedouinB
2.6 NIRQCHR01
1.4 BedouinA
Target: Iraqi:12BA66
Distance: 1.7784% / 0.01778413
76.8 Assyrian
20.6 NIRQCHR01
2.6 BedouinB
Target: Iraqi:12BA65
Distance: 1.8079% / 0.01807908
66.2 Assyrian
17.6 Kurdish
8.8 BedouinB
7.4 NIRQCHR01
Target: Iraqi:12AJ49
Distance: 2.5160% / 0.02516008
47.2 NIRQCHR01
29.4 BedouinA
17.8 Assyrian
5.2 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
0.4 Iranian_Fars
Target: Iraqi:11BA66
Distance: 1.1051% / 0.01105113
53.6 BedouinB
24.2 Kurdish
16.2 Assyrian
6.0 Dinka
Target: Iraqi:11BA65
Distance: 1.4893% / 0.01489254
41.6 BedouinA
22.2 BedouinB
14.2 Iranian_Fars
13.8 Kurdish
5.2 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
3.0 Assyrian
Target: Iraqi:11AR126
Distance: 8.4466% / 0.08446566
40.0 Kurdish
30.8 BedouinA
12.8 Assyrian
10.2 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
6.2 NIRQCHR01
Target: Iraqi:10BA66
Distance: 1.8354% / 0.01835419
53.6 Iranian_Fars
19.0 BedouinB
12.8 NIRQCHR01
6.8 Assyrian
4.4 Dinka
1.8 Kurdish
1.6 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
Target: Iraqi:10BA65
Distance: 2.0305% / 0.02030505
36.4 BedouinB
31.4 NIRQCHR01
15.0 Iranian_Fars
7.8 BedouinA
4.6 Somali_Kenya
3.8 Assyrian
0.6 Dinka
0.4 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
Target: Iraqi:9R180
Distance: 1.5278% / 0.01527825
81.4 Assyrian
11.2 BedouinA
7.4 BedouinB
Target: Iraqi:9BA66
Distance: 1.0145% / 0.01014522
50.6 Iranian_Fars
19.6 BedouinA
19.4 BedouinB
6.6 Assyrian
1.8 Somali_Kenya
1.4 Dinka
0.6 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
Target: Iraqi:9BA65
Distance: 1.1979% / 0.01197855
27.8 Iranian_Fars
22.8 BedouinB
20.0 BedouinA
13.2 Assyrian
7.6 Mandaean01
4.8 Dinka
2.2 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
1.6 Kurdish
Target: Iraqi:8BA66
Distance: 1.1956% / 0.01195601
89.8 Assyrian
6.6 Mandaean01
2.6 BedouinB
1.0 BedouinA
Target: Iraqi:7BA66
Distance: 1.5335% / 0.01533515
51.6 Assyrian
17.6 NIRQCHR01
17.2 Iranian_Fars
11.4 BedouinB
2.2 Kurdish
Target: Iraqi:7BA65
Distance: 1.1977% / 0.01197706
88.8 Assyrian
11.2 BedouinB
Target: Iraqi:7AJ55
Distance: 1.1782% / 0.01178175
56.8 Assyrian
19.6 Mandaean01
10.6 Iranian_Fars
6.6 NIRQCHR01
6.4 BedouinB
Target: Iraqi:7AJ152
Distance: 1.5834% / 0.01583418
31.2 Iranian_Fars
26.2 BedouinA
18.6 Assyrian
8.6 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
8.4 Kurdish
7.0 BedouinB
Target: Iraqi:7AJ100
Distance: 1.4427% / 0.01442687
30.6 BedouinB
25.8 Iranian_Fars
19.4 Kurdish
11.2 Somali_Kenya
10.0 Assyrian
3.0 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
Target: Iraqi:6BA66
Distance: 1.5067% / 0.01506674
43.8 Kurdish
19.0 Iranian_Fars
9.8 Mandaean01
9.2 BedouinA
9.2 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
9.0 BedouinB
Target: Iraqi:6BA1
Distance: 1.2343% / 0.01234257
56.2 Assyrian
18.2 Kurdish
16.0 Mandaean01
6.2 BedouinB
1.8 BedouinA
1.6 Iranian_Fars
Target: Iraqi:5BA66
Distance: 0.7199% / 0.00719875
31.2 NIRQCHR01
28.0 Iranian_Fars
16.4 BedouinA
12.8 Kurdish
8.2 BedouinB
1.8 Dinka
1.2 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
0.4 Somali_Kenya
Target: Iraqi:5AJ67
Distance: 1.6793% / 0.01679271
43.4 Iranian_Fars
23.0 BedouinB
19.0 BedouinA
10.0 Mandaean01
3.2 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
1.4 Dinka
Target: Iraqi:5AJ100
Distance: 1.6533% / 0.01653325
26.8 BedouinB
24.6 Iranian_Fars
17.6 BedouinA
13.0 Kurdish
11.8 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
2.4 Somali_Kenya
1.8 Dinka
1.0 Assyrian
1.0 Mandaean01
Target: Iraqi:5AJ1
Distance: 6.6317% / 0.06631661
72.4 Kurdish
10.4 Assyrian
7.6 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
5.2 BedouinA
4.4 Iranian_Fars
Target: Iraqi:4R114
Distance: 2.5589% / 0.02558939
72.2 Assyrian
20.0 BedouinB
7.8 BedouinA
Target: Iraqi:4BA66
Distance: 1.2856% / 0.01285569
73.8 Assyrian
17.6 Kurdish
4.4 BedouinA
4.2 BedouinB
Target: Iraqi:4AL78
Distance: 1.4768% / 0.01476788
27.4 Mandaean01
26.4 Assyrian
15.0 BedouinA
14.0 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
11.6 Kurdish
5.6 Iranian_Fars
Target: Iraqi:3AJ67
Distance: 1.4190% / 0.01419010
54.2 Assyrian
26.0 NIRQCHR01
9.8 Kurdish
6.4 BedouinA
3.6 BedouinB
Target: Iraqi:2R59
Distance: 1.3783% / 0.01378289
53.0 Assyrian
31.4 Mandaean01
9.0 BedouinA
4.6 NIRQCHR01
1.0 BedouinB
1.0 Kurdish
Target: Iraqi:2R40
Distance: 1.5759% / 0.01575859
57.0 Assyrian
21.2 Mandaean01
18.2 NIRQCHR01
3.6 BedouinB
Target: Iraqi:2BA66
Distance: 1.1733% / 0.01173271
61.2 Assyrian
16.4 Mandaean01
12.4 Kurdish
8.6 BedouinA
1.4 BedouinB
Target: Iraqi:2AQ191
Distance: 2.4502% / 0.02450200
75.4 Assyrian
16.8 BedouinB
7.8 NIRQCHR01
Target: Iraqi:2AJ67
Distance: 0.8505% / 0.00850541
39.2 Iranian_Fars
24.6 Assyrian
21.6 BedouinA
11.2 BedouinB
2.4 Somali_Kenya
1.0 Dinka
Target: Iraqi:1BAJ137
Distance: 1.3200% / 0.01319970
44.8 Mandaean01
28.4 Assyrian
16.4 Kurdish
9.4 BedouinA
1.0 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
Target: Iraqi:1BA66
Distance: 2.0134% / 0.02013376
91.6 Assyrian
8.4 BedouinA
Target: Iraqi:1BA2
Distance: 1.1138% / 0.01113817
76.8 Assyrian
11.6 Iranian_Fars
7.2 Kurdish
4.4 BedouinB
Target: Iraqi:1AJ67
Distance: 0.9353% / 0.00935324
46.4 Assyrian
25.2 Mandaean01
18.6 NIRQCHR01
4.6 BedouinA
4.4 Kurdish
0.8 BedouinB
Is there any way we the actual ethnic make of these people rather than hypothesizing about their ethnicity?
Negah
12-16-2020, 05:57 PM
Some of the new Iranian samples aren't too far from me.
<tbody>
Distance to:
Mingle
0.03180125
Pashtun_Uthmankhel
0.03415399
Kalash
0.03572363
Pashtun_Tarkalani
0.03599600
Pashtun_Yusufzai
0.03691067
Pashtun_Kandahar
0.03982220
Pashtun_North_Afghanistan
0.04283195
Kamboj
0.04581909
Iranian:5AQ103
0.04723576
Iranian:13AQ100
0.04751555
Pashtun_Kabul
0.04788619
Iranian:14AQ100
0.04796257
Kho_Singanali
0.04835922
Iranian:12AQ102
0.04857009
Iranian:7AM153
0.05101394
Iranian:9AQ101
0.05276783
Ror
0.05425971
Balochi
0.05450635
Brahui
0.05639530
Punjabi_Jatt
0.05728370
Pamiri_Ishkashim
0.05741747
Punjabi_Khatri
0.05789640
Iranian:11AQ103
0.05861481
Kohistani
0.05904965
Iranian:3AQ103
0.06227999
Sindhi
</tbody>
what are you exactly. Pashtun but can you share the tribe and the city?
Dr_Maul
12-16-2020, 06:16 PM
Is there any way we the actual ethnic make of these people rather than hypothesizing about their ethnicity?
they aren't labelled, but its quite obvious who some of them are at least in the Iranian ones based on their genetic result. Not sure of any ethnic persians scoring 30% mongoloid lol
Negah
12-16-2020, 06:30 PM
Funny thing I may pass best in Ukraine :roll:
Target: Altaic_scaled :ranger
Distance: 1.4845% / 0.01484463 | ADC: 0.25x RC
54.6 Turkish_B
25.2 Armenian_B
20.2 Iranian_B
Target: Altaic_scaled
Distance: 1.4817% / 0.01481699
49.6 Turkish_B
27.4 Armenian_B
21.6 Iranian_B
1.4 Ukrainian_B
Distance to: Altaic_scaled
0.02545447 Turkish_B
0.04853526 Armenian_B
0.05113921 Iraqi_B
0.05783032 Iranian_B
Reminded me of my dad's 23andme regions ;)
High likely 8 cities from Western Anatolia Turkey
High likely 9 cities from Eastern Anatolia Turkey
Likely 2 cities from Iran (Tehran, East Azerbaijan)
Likely 2 cities from Iraq (Nineveh, Baghdad)
No specific cities but possible match from Armenia
Where in Turkey is your family from?
It seems that your eastern Anatolian side of the family has close relatives from East Azerbijan and your Tehrani side of the family are just East Azerbaijanis that migrated there. Tehran is about 25% Azeris if not more.
Ion Basescul
12-16-2020, 06:42 PM
Are all these from a paper?
Yes
https://anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?22424-New-Autosomal-data-from-Lebanon-Armenia-Iran-Iraq-Turkey-Cyprus-Jordan-Syr-ia-Ukraine&p=726465&viewfull=1#post726465
Trouble
12-16-2020, 08:21 PM
Is there any way we the actual ethnic make of these people rather than hypothesizing about their ethnicity?
What are you asking exactly? Deciphering whether they are Assyrians, Arabs(Sunni/Shiite), or Kurd? Or their actual ancestral make up?
Trouble
12-16-2020, 08:25 PM
they aren't labelled, but its quite obvious who some of them are at least in the Iranian ones based on their genetic result. Not sure of any ethnic persians scoring 30% mongoloid lol
The fact that some of these guys are getting substantial amounts of Iranian and Arabian, along with traces of SSA is a dead giveaway that they are Arab/Muslim. There are a few that seem ambiguous i.e. they could either be Christiana or northern Arab but for the most part it's clear which is which. In fact I'm going to try to predict which is which now:
Target: Iraqi:20AJ57(Definitely Christian)
Distance: 1.4410% / 0.01441044
97.6 Assyrian
2.4 BedouinB
Target: Iraqi:19BA66(Probably Christian)
Distance: 1.5355% / 0.01535533
93.2 Assyrian
6.8 BedouinB
Target: Iraqi:18AJ68(Probably Christian)
Distance: 2.2626% / 0.02262554
78.8 Assyrian
15.4 NIRQCHR01
5.8 BedouinB
Target: Iraqi:17BA66(Definitely Arab or Turkoman)
Distance: 1.8384% / 0.01838372
33.0 BedouinB
25.6 Assyrian
19.8 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
18.4 Kurdish
3.2 Somali_Kenya
Target: Iraqi:16BA65(definitely Arab)
Distance: 1.0110% / 0.01011034
36.2 Iranian_Fars
20.4 BedouinB
19.6 BedouinA
8.4 NIRQCHR01
5.8 Mandaean01
5.6 Dinka
3.6 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
0.4 Somali_Kenya
Target: Iraqi:15BA65(Arab or Kurd)
Distance: 1.8589% / 0.01858912
56.0 Iranian_Fars
32.0 Kurdish
11.8 NIRQCHR01
0.2 Somali_Kenya
Target: Iraqi:15AJ68(definitely Arab)
Distance: 1.0248% / 0.01024763
50.2 Iranian_Fars
28.8 BedouinB
11.6 NIRQCHR01
4.0 Somali_Kenya
3.6 Mandaean01
1.6 Assyrian
0.2 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
Target: Iraqi:14AJ68(probably Arab)
Distance: 1.2509% / 0.01250889
38.6 Mandaean01
27.0 Iranian_Fars
13.4 BedouinA
12.0 BedouinB
6.6 Assyrian
2.4 Dinka
Target: Iraqi:14AJ137(Arab or Kurd)
Distance: 0.7867% / 0.00786671
39.2 Kurdish
31.8 Iranian_Fars
15.6 Assyrian
5.8 BedouinB
3.8 BedouinA
3.8 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
Target: Iraqi:13R59(probably Christian, possibly Arab)
Distance: 1.9787% / 0.01978687
55.8 NIRQCHR01
32.8 Assyrian
8.8 BedouinB
2.6 BedouinA
Target: Iraqi:13R40(definitely Christian)
Distance: 2.0013% / 0.02001282
96.0 Assyrian
4.0 Kurdish
Target: Iraqi:13BA66(probably Christian)
Distance: 1.3549% / 0.01354901
64.2 Assyrian
28.2 NIRQCHR01
5.0 BedouinB
2.6 BedouinA
Target: Iraqi:13BA65(definitely Arab)
Distance: 1.4135% / 0.01413473
26.8 NIRQCHR01
22.4 BedouinA
17.0 BedouinB
14.2 Assyrian
10.4 Kurdish
6.6 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
2.6 Somali_Kenya
Target: Iraqi:12R40(probably Christian, possibly Arab)
Distance: 1.1070% / 0.01107018
83.4 Assyrian
9.4 Kurdish
3.2 BedouinB
2.6 NIRQCHR01
1.4 BedouinA
Target: Iraqi:12BA66(definitely Christian)
Distance: 1.7784% / 0.01778413
76.8 Assyrian
20.6 NIRQCHR01
2.6 BedouinB
Target: Iraqi:12BA65(probably Arab)
Distance: 1.8079% / 0.01807908
66.2 Assyrian
17.6 Kurdish
8.8 BedouinB
7.4 NIRQCHR01
Target: Iraqi:12AJ49(probably Arab)
Distance: 2.5160% / 0.02516008
47.2 NIRQCHR01
29.4 BedouinA
17.8 Assyrian
5.2 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
0.4 Iranian_Fars
Target: Iraqi:11BA66(definitely Arab)
Distance: 1.1051% / 0.01105113
53.6 BedouinB
24.2 Kurdish
16.2 Assyrian
6.0 Dinka
Target: Iraqi:11BA65(definitely Arab)
Distance: 1.4893% / 0.01489254
41.6 BedouinA
22.2 BedouinB
14.2 Iranian_Fars
13.8 Kurdish
5.2 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
3.0 Assyrian
Target: Iraqi:11AR126(most likely mixed...can't be full Iraqi)
Distance: 8.4466% / 0.08446566
40.0 Kurdish
30.8 BedouinA
12.8 Assyrian
10.2 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
6.2 NIRQCHR01
Target: Iraqi:10BA66(definitely Arab)
Distance: 1.8354% / 0.01835419
53.6 Iranian_Fars
19.0 BedouinB
12.8 NIRQCHR01
6.8 Assyrian
4.4 Dinka
1.8 Kurdish
1.6 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
Target: Iraqi:10BA65(definitely Arab)
Distance: 2.0305% / 0.02030505
36.4 BedouinB
31.4 NIRQCHR01
15.0 Iranian_Fars
7.8 BedouinA
4.6 Somali_Kenya
3.8 Assyrian
0.6 Dinka
0.4 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
Target: Iraqi:9R180(probably Christian, possibly Arab)
Distance: 1.5278% / 0.01527825
81.4 Assyrian
11.2 BedouinA
7.4 BedouinB
Target: Iraqi:9BA66(definitely Arab)
Distance: 1.0145% / 0.01014522
50.6 Iranian_Fars
19.6 BedouinA
19.4 BedouinB
6.6 Assyrian
1.8 Somali_Kenya
1.4 Dinka
0.6 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
Target: Iraqi:9BA65(definitely Arab)
Distance: 1.1979% / 0.01197855
27.8 Iranian_Fars
22.8 BedouinB
20.0 BedouinA
13.2 Assyrian
7.6 Mandaean01
4.8 Dinka
2.2 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
1.6 Kurdish
Target: Iraqi:8BA66(probably Christian)
Distance: 1.1956% / 0.01195601
89.8 Assyrian
6.6 Mandaean01
2.6 BedouinB
1.0 BedouinA
Target: Iraqi:7BA66(probably Arab)
Distance: 1.5335% / 0.01533515
51.6 Assyrian
17.6 NIRQCHR01
17.2 Iranian_Fars
11.4 BedouinB
2.2 Kurdish
Target: Iraqi:7BA65(probably Christian, possibly Arab)
Distance: 1.1977% / 0.01197706
88.8 Assyrian
11.2 BedouinB
Target: Iraqi:7AJ55(probably Arab, possibly Christian)
Distance: 1.1782% / 0.01178175
56.8 Assyrian
19.6 Mandaean01
10.6 Iranian_Fars
6.6 NIRQCHR01
6.4 BedouinB
Target: Iraqi:7AJ152(definitely Arab)
Distance: 1.5834% / 0.01583418
31.2 Iranian_Fars
26.2 BedouinA
18.6 Assyrian
8.6 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
8.4 Kurdish
7.0 BedouinB
Target: Iraqi:7AJ100(definitely Arab)
Distance: 1.4427% / 0.01442687
30.6 BedouinB
25.8 Iranian_Fars
19.4 Kurdish
11.2 Somali_Kenya
10.0 Assyrian
3.0 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
Target: Iraqi:6BA66(probably Arab)
Distance: 1.5067% / 0.01506674
43.8 Kurdish
19.0 Iranian_Fars
9.8 Mandaean01
9.2 BedouinA
9.2 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
9.0 BedouinB
Target: Iraqi:6BA1(Probably Arab)
Distance: 1.2343% / 0.01234257
56.2 Assyrian
18.2 Kurdish
16.0 Mandaean01
6.2 BedouinB
1.8 BedouinA
1.6 Iranian_Fars
Target: Iraqi:5BA66(probably Arab)
Distance: 0.7199% / 0.00719875
31.2 NIRQCHR01
28.0 Iranian_Fars
16.4 BedouinA
12.8 Kurdish
8.2 BedouinB
1.8 Dinka
1.2 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
0.4 Somali_Kenya
Target: Iraqi:5AJ67(probably Arab)
Distance: 1.6793% / 0.01679271
43.4 Iranian_Fars
23.0 BedouinB
19.0 BedouinA
10.0 Mandaean01
3.2 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
1.4 Dinka
Target: Iraqi:5AJ100(probably Arab)
Distance: 1.6533% / 0.01653325
26.8 BedouinB
24.6 Iranian_Fars
17.6 BedouinA
13.0 Kurdish
11.8 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
2.4 Somali_Kenya
1.8 Dinka
1.0 Assyrian
1.0 Mandaean01
Target: Iraqi:5AJ1(probably Kurd)
Distance: 6.6317% / 0.06631661
72.4 Kurdish
10.4 Assyrian
7.6 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
5.2 BedouinA
4.4 Iranian_Fars
Target: Iraqi:4R114(probably Arab, possibly Christian)
Distance: 2.5589% / 0.02558939
72.2 Assyrian
20.0 BedouinB
7.8 BedouinA
Target: Iraqi:4BA66(probably Arab, possibly Christian)
Distance: 1.2856% / 0.01285569
73.8 Assyrian
17.6 Kurdish
4.4 BedouinA
4.2 BedouinB
Target: Iraqi:4AL78(probably Arab)
Distance: 1.4768% / 0.01476788
27.4 Mandaean01
26.4 Assyrian
15.0 BedouinA
14.0 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
11.6 Kurdish
5.6 Iranian_Fars
Target: Iraqi:3AJ67(probably Christian, possibly Arab)
Distance: 1.4190% / 0.01419010
54.2 Assyrian
26.0 NIRQCHR01
9.8 Kurdish
6.4 BedouinA
3.6 BedouinB
Target: Iraqi:2R59(probably Christian)
Distance: 1.3783% / 0.01378289
53.0 Assyrian
31.4 Mandaean01
9.0 BedouinA
4.6 NIRQCHR01
1.0 BedouinB
1.0 Kurdish
Target: Iraqi:2R40(probably Christian)
Distance: 1.5759% / 0.01575859
57.0 Assyrian
21.2 Mandaean01
18.2 NIRQCHR01
3.6 BedouinB
Target: Iraqi:2BA66(?)
Distance: 1.1733% / 0.01173271
61.2 Assyrian
16.4 Mandaean01
12.4 Kurdish
8.6 BedouinA
1.4 BedouinB
Target: Iraqi:2AQ191(probably Arab, possibly Christian)
Distance: 2.4502% / 0.02450200
75.4 Assyrian
16.8 BedouinB
7.8 NIRQCHR01
Target: Iraqi:2AJ67(definitely Arab)
Distance: 0.8505% / 0.00850541
39.2 Iranian_Fars
24.6 Assyrian
21.6 BedouinA
11.2 BedouinB
2.4 Somali_Kenya
1.0 Dinka
Target: Iraqi:1BAJ137(probably Arab)
Distance: 1.3200% / 0.01319970
44.8 Mandaean01
28.4 Assyrian
16.4 Kurdish
9.4 BedouinA
1.0 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
Target: Iraqi:1BA66(probably Christian)
Distance: 2.0134% / 0.02013376
91.6 Assyrian
8.4 BedouinA
Target: Iraqi:1BA2(probably Arab)
Distance: 1.1138% / 0.01113817
76.8 Assyrian
11.6 Iranian_Fars
7.2 Kurdish
4.4 BedouinB
Target: Iraqi:1AJ67(probably Christian)
Distance: 0.9353% / 0.00935324
46.4 Assyrian
25.2 Mandaean01
18.6 NIRQCHR01
4.6 BedouinA
4.4 Kurdish
0.8 BedouinB
The fact that some of these guys are getting substantial amounts of Iranian and Arabian, along with traces of SSA is a dead giveaway that they are Arab/Muslim. There are a few that seem ambiguous i.e. they could either be Christiana or northern Arab but for the most part it's clear which is which. In fact I'm going to try to predict which is which now:
Are you able to tell Jordanian Christians from Muslims? We need them for Dodecad. There shouldn't be many. Just let me know their numbers if you can.
Yes
https://anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?22424-New-Autosomal-data-from-Lebanon-Armenia-Iran-Iraq-Turkey-Cyprus-Jordan-Syr-ia-Ukraine&p=726465&viewfull=1#post726465
Thanks looks like I'll have to bother Dilawer for converting the BAM files. I guess someone else must have converted them to VCF or Plink files
Trouble
12-16-2020, 08:42 PM
Are you able to tell Jordanian Christians from Muslims? We need them for Dodecad. There shouldn't be many. Just let me know their numbers if you can.
I'll try. I haven't modeled them. Jordanian Muslims should have substantial Arabian ancestry compared to the Christians. Ill try it now
Trouble
12-16-2020, 08:59 PM
Are you able to tell Jordanian Christians from Muslims? We need them for Dodecad. There shouldn't be many. Just let me know their numbers if you can.
Almost all of them appear to be Muslims. They almost all score SSA(idk how or why). These are some possible Christians. I dont know much about Jordan so someone can help me out.
Target: Jordanian:1AM76
Distance: 1.5336% / 0.01533551
44.4 Samaritan
35.0 Lebanese_Christian
13.6 Druze
7.0 BedouinB
Target: Jordanian:1AM65
Distance: 1.8921% / 0.01892144
52.4 Druze
30.8 Samaritan
16.0 BedouinB
0.8 Lebanese_Christian
Target: Jordanian:12AM58
Distance: 1.4509% / 0.01450860
49.6 Samaritan
29.6 Druze
15.2 Lebanese_Christian
4.8 BedouinB
0.8 Somali_Kenya
Target: Jordanian:12AM63
Distance: 1.2751% / 0.01275119
42.4 Druze
25.0 Samaritan
17.6 BedouinB
14.8 Lebanese_Christian
0.2 Somali_Kenya
Target: Jordanian:14AM66
Distance: 2.0444% / 0.02044440
56.2 Druze
38.2 Lebanese_Christian
5.6 BedouinB
Target: Jordanian:15AM66
Distance: 1.2191% / 0.01219071
58.8 Druze
28.6 Lebanese_Christian
11.8 BedouinB
0.8 Somali_Kenya
Target: Jordanian:16AM68
Distance: 0.8949% / 0.00894903
48.0 Lebanese_Christian
35.0 Samaritan
11.4 Druze
5.4 BedouinB
0.2 Dinka
Target: Jordanian:2AM63
Distance: 1.9865% / 0.01986491
35.8 Druze
31.6 Lebanese_Christian
22.4 Samaritan
10.0 BedouinB
0.2 Somali_Kenya
Target: Jordanian:7AM66
Distance: 1.4201% / 0.01420122
49.0 Lebanese_Christian
26.6 Samaritan
14.2 Druze
10.2 BedouinB
Target: Jordanian:9AM58
Distance: 1.1743% / 0.01174270
48.4 Lebanese_Christian
30.0 Druze
16.6 Samaritan
3.6 BedouinB
0.8 Somali_Kenya
0.6 Dinka
Target: Jordanian:9AM68
Distance: 1.4739% / 0.01473936
44.6 Druze
33.6 Samaritan
14.6 BedouinB
7.0 Lebanese_Christian
0.2 Somali_Kenya
Key word POSSIBLE. I excluded anyone scoring over 2% African, which seems to be a lot of them strangely.
Almost all of them appear to be Muslims. They almost all score SSA(idk how or why). These are some possible Christians. I dont know much about Jordan so someone can help me out.
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Key word POSSIBLE. I excluded anyone scoring over 2% African, which seems to be a lot of them strangely.
Great models, thank you. We'll see about that, the ones you picked out are roughly 5-15% Bedouin but still overwhelmingly Druze-Samaritan.
These are the Jordanians I believe are Greek Orthodox/Melkite. Kyp has acces to their Gedmatch scores maybe he can create an average.
Jordanian:2AM63,0.083091,0.148267,-0.048271,-0.090763,-0.001539,-0.031515,-0.0047,-0.00923,0.010022,0.007107,0.006333,-0.01169,0.016947,-0.001651,-0.013572,0.005436,0.007693,-0.000253,0.004399,-0.001876,0.001996,0.011747,-0.005423,0.004217,-0.001437
Jordanian:16AM68,0.083091,0.147252,-0.05506,-0.081396,-0.010771,-0.033467,0.000235,-0.008307,0.006954,0.010205,0.005846,-0.010641,0.016353,0.004542,-0.012079,0.001724,-0.008866,0.00076,0.007542,-0.002626,0.004243,0.002102,-0.002095,0.001325,-0.004191
Jordanian:7AM66,0.081953,0.146236,-0.04978,-0.089471,-0.001846,-0.034861,-0.00799,-0.008538,0.012476,0.009112,0.009581,-0.002398,0.018434,0.006881,-0.008143,0.007292,-0.005998,0,0.007039,0.002251,-0.000125,0,-0.005916,0.001687,0.001916
Jordanian:9AM58,0.078538,0.144205,-0.050157,-0.082365,-0.005232,-0.034304,-0.000705,-0.007846,0.005727,0.007472,0.004872,-0.004496,0.012785,0.003578,-0.011808,0.004508,-0.000913,-0.004054,-0.000126,0.001126,-0.006114,0.008161,0.003081,0.002892,0.000718
Jordanian:12AM58,0.081953,0.142174,-0.046763,-0.094962,-0.009848,-0.034304,-0.00564,-0.006,0.01493,0.010387,0.005684,-0.010641,0.015609,0.001789,-0.001086,0.004773,-0.003781,0,-0.00088,-0.005628,-0.001497,-0.001855,-0.007518,0.005784,0.006826
Jordanian:14AM66,0.092197,0.14319,-0.042238,-0.082042,-0.014772,-0.030678,0.000235,-0.002308,-0.0045,0.008201,0.000487,-0.003597,0.008474,0.003716,-0.001764,-0.002784,-0.014473,0.000633,0.006662,0.00963,-0.006114,0.006925,-0.000739,0.005904,-0.005628
Jordanian:1AM76,0.088782,0.146236,-0.049403,-0.082365,-0.011694,-0.035698,-0.003525,-0.003461,0.013294,0.006014,0.005359,-0.007194,0.019177,0.000688,-0.00665,-0.009546,-0.010822,0.001014,0.000126,0.001376,0.003993,0.000 124,-0.002342,0.001807,0.003712
Jordanian:15AM66,0.079676,0.139128,-0.053174,-0.079458,-0.00677,-0.030678,-0.00423,-0.002769,0.014317,0.003462,0.006496,-0.003597,0.015163,-0.000963,-0.010179,0.010475,0.004172,-0.00266,-0.00352,0.002001,-0.004866,0.00371,-0.001232,0.001687,-0.002395
Jordanian:9AM68,0.083091,0.148267,-0.050911,-0.087533,-0.012618,-0.036535,-0.00752,-0.006,0.005113,0.003098,0.00406,-0.004496,0.020069,0.010046,-0.001493,-0.001326,-0.014473,-0.004054,0.009804,0.00025,0.001373,0.00136,0.00024 6,0.002892,0.003952
Jordanian:12AM63,0.080814,0.146236,-0.048649,-0.083334,-0.010156,-0.033188,-0.003525,-0.010153,0.010226,0.009659,0.004384,-0.004196,0.020515,0.001514,0,-0.003713,-0.015907,0.005828,0.002011,0.004002,-0.00025,0.003957,0.002835,-0.00012,0.000958
Mingle
12-16-2020, 10:31 PM
what are you exactly. Pashtun but can you share the tribe and the city?
My tribe is Mandanr (related to Yusafzais and Tarkalanis, part of the Sarban tribal confederation) and I'm from the Peshawar Valley.
Lucas
12-16-2020, 10:37 PM
BTW I'm running Maronites now for Dodecad K12b, then other groups.
Mingle
12-16-2020, 10:39 PM
These are the Jordanians I believe are Greek Orthodox/Melkite. Kyp has acces to their Gedmatch scores maybe he can create an average.
Jordanian:2AM63,0.083091,0.148267,-0.048271,-0.090763,-0.001539,-0.031515,-0.0047,-0.00923,0.010022,0.007107,0.006333,-0.01169,0.016947,-0.001651,-0.013572,0.005436,0.007693,-0.000253,0.004399,-0.001876,0.001996,0.011747,-0.005423,0.004217,-0.001437
Jordanian:16AM68,0.083091,0.147252,-0.05506,-0.081396,-0.010771,-0.033467,0.000235,-0.008307,0.006954,0.010205,0.005846,-0.010641,0.016353,0.004542,-0.012079,0.001724,-0.008866,0.00076,0.007542,-0.002626,0.004243,0.002102,-0.002095,0.001325,-0.004191
Jordanian:7AM66,0.081953,0.146236,-0.04978,-0.089471,-0.001846,-0.034861,-0.00799,-0.008538,0.012476,0.009112,0.009581,-0.002398,0.018434,0.006881,-0.008143,0.007292,-0.005998,0,0.007039,0.002251,-0.000125,0,-0.005916,0.001687,0.001916
Jordanian:9AM58,0.078538,0.144205,-0.050157,-0.082365,-0.005232,-0.034304,-0.000705,-0.007846,0.005727,0.007472,0.004872,-0.004496,0.012785,0.003578,-0.011808,0.004508,-0.000913,-0.004054,-0.000126,0.001126,-0.006114,0.008161,0.003081,0.002892,0.000718
Jordanian:12AM58,0.081953,0.142174,-0.046763,-0.094962,-0.009848,-0.034304,-0.00564,-0.006,0.01493,0.010387,0.005684,-0.010641,0.015609,0.001789,-0.001086,0.004773,-0.003781,0,-0.00088,-0.005628,-0.001497,-0.001855,-0.007518,0.005784,0.006826
Jordanian:14AM66,0.092197,0.14319,-0.042238,-0.082042,-0.014772,-0.030678,0.000235,-0.002308,-0.0045,0.008201,0.000487,-0.003597,0.008474,0.003716,-0.001764,-0.002784,-0.014473,0.000633,0.006662,0.00963,-0.006114,0.006925,-0.000739,0.005904,-0.005628
Jordanian:1AM76,0.088782,0.146236,-0.049403,-0.082365,-0.011694,-0.035698,-0.003525,-0.003461,0.013294,0.006014,0.005359,-0.007194,0.019177,0.000688,-0.00665,-0.009546,-0.010822,0.001014,0.000126,0.001376,0.003993,0.000 124,-0.002342,0.001807,0.003712
Jordanian:15AM66,0.079676,0.139128,-0.053174,-0.079458,-0.00677,-0.030678,-0.00423,-0.002769,0.014317,0.003462,0.006496,-0.003597,0.015163,-0.000963,-0.010179,0.010475,0.004172,-0.00266,-0.00352,0.002001,-0.004866,0.00371,-0.001232,0.001687,-0.002395
Jordanian:9AM68,0.083091,0.148267,-0.050911,-0.087533,-0.012618,-0.036535,-0.00752,-0.006,0.005113,0.003098,0.00406,-0.004496,0.020069,0.010046,-0.001493,-0.001326,-0.014473,-0.004054,0.009804,0.00025,0.001373,0.00136,0.00024 6,0.002892,0.003952
Jordanian:12AM63,0.080814,0.146236,-0.048649,-0.083334,-0.010156,-0.033188,-0.003525,-0.010153,0.010226,0.009659,0.004384,-0.004196,0.020515,0.001514,0,-0.003713,-0.015907,0.005828,0.002011,0.004002,-0.00025,0.003957,0.002835,-0.00012,0.000958
Here's a G25 average of those:
Jordanian_Christian,0.0833186,0.1451191,-0.0494406,-0.0853689,-0.0085246,-0.0335228,-0.0037365,-0.0064612,0.0088559,0.0074717,0.0053102,-0.0062946,0.0163526,0.003014,-0.0066774,0.0016839,-0.0063368,-0.0002786,0.0033057,0.0010506,-0.0007361,0.004011888889,-0.002149888889,0.0028075,0.0004431
<tbody>
Distance to:
Jordanian_Christian
0.01694636
Lebanese_Christian
0.01754903
Lebanese_Christian_Greek_Orthodox
0.01828785
Lebanese_Christian_Maronite
0.02071492
Samaritan
0.02496557
Karaite_Egypt
0.02498375
Lebanese_Druze
0.02579283
Druze
0.02867756
Palestinian_Beit_Sahour
0.02960188
Lebanese_Muslim
0.03416663
Cypriot
0.03434361
Jordanian_B
0.03474002
Syrian_Jew
0.03587933
Lebanese_Muslim_Shia
0.04073684
Iraqi_Jew
0.04076011
Lebanese_Muslim_Sunni
0.04250283
Cypriot_B
0.04262552
Tunisian_Jew
0.04318064
Jordanian
0.04326470
Romaniote_Jew
0.04402822
Syrian
0.04410628
Syrian_B
0.04451592
Palestinian
0.04512909
Libyan_Jew
0.04812482
Iraqi_B
0.05145737
Sephardic_Jew
</tbody>
Mingle
12-16-2020, 10:42 PM
Probably should have divided the Iranian ones on ethnicity... a bunch of Baloch and Turkmen. Although it does make sense to have a "national" average so I get it. Nice to see so many Iranian samples at least, I wonder if they did haplogroups on them?
I made a Turkmen average. The Baluchis are too hard to distinguish from neighboring Persians. Hopefully, the authors reply and let us know the region+ethnicity of the samples.
Here's a G25 average of those:
Jordanian_Christian,0.0833186,0.1451191,-0.0494406,-0.0853689,-0.0085246,-0.0335228,-0.0037365,-0.0064612,0.0088559,0.0074717,0.0053102,-0.0062946,0.0163526,0.003014,-0.0066774,0.0016839,-0.0063368,-0.0002786,0.0033057,0.0010506,-0.0007361,0.004011888889,-0.002149888889,0.0028075,0.0004431
<tbody>
Distance to:
Jordanian_Christian
0.01694636
Lebanese_Christian
0.01754903
Lebanese_Christian_Greek_Orthodox
0.01828785
Lebanese_Christian_Maronite
0.02071492
Samaritan
0.02496557
Karaite_Egypt
0.02498375
Lebanese_Druze
0.02579283
Druze
0.02867756
Palestinian_Beit_Sahour
0.02960188
Lebanese_Muslim
0.03416663
Cypriot
0.03434361
Jordanian_B
0.03474002
Syrian_Jew
0.03587933
Lebanese_Muslim_Shia
0.04073684
Iraqi_Jew
0.04076011
Lebanese_Muslim_Sunni
0.04250283
Cypriot_B
0.04262552
Tunisian_Jew
0.04318064
Jordanian
0.04326470
Romaniote_Jew
0.04402822
Syrian
0.04410628
Syrian_B
0.04451592
Palestinian
0.04512909
Libyan_Jew
0.04812482
Iraqi_B
0.05145737
Sephardic_Jew
</tbody>
Thanks for everything btw.
Here's a simple run
Target: Jordanian_Christian
Distance: 1.5574% / 0.01557416
63.8 Samaritan
36.2 Palestinian_Beit_Sahour
0.0 BedouinB
0.0 Dinka
I think it's clearly that they are Christians considering they don't score any SSA which must be quite high in sedentary Jordanian Muslims.
Trouble
12-16-2020, 11:56 PM
The iraqi arabs are at a larger distance to levantines than the christians are. it is clear which is which.
The following samples are suspected as Kurds because they share substantial IBD segments with Iraqi Kurmanji Kurd. They can be further looked at with a calculator. They are indicating as 6th degree relatives
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FID1
FID2
IID2
Z0
Z1
Z2
PI_HAT
DST
PPC
RATIO
Kurd-Kurmanji-IQ-WGS
Turkey
18BA59
0.9605
0
0.0395
0.0395
0.754234
0.0448
1.8924
Kurd-Kurmanji-IQ-WGS
Iran
2AQ66
0.9633
0
0.0367
0.0367
0.753767
0.0321
1.8825
Kurd-Kurmanji-IQ-WGS
Iran
6AQ26
0.9653
0
0.0347
0.0347
0.753317
0.7266
2.0401
Kurd-Kurmanji-IQ-WGS
Iran
15AQ21
0.966
0
0.034
0.034
0.753537
0.0228
1.8738
Kurd-Kurmanji-IQ-WGS
Iran
8AM198
0.9665
0
0.0335
0.0335
0.753608
0.1989
1.9453
Kurd-Kurmanji-IQ-WGS
Iran
6AQ99
0.9665
0
0.0335
0.0335
0.753182
0.0051
1.8395
Kurd-Kurmanji-IQ-WGS
Iran
5AQ99
0.9674
0
0.0326
0.0326
0.753442
0.1098
1.9214
Kurd-Kurmanji-IQ-WGS
Iran
6AM140
0.9686
0
0.0314
0.0314
0.753664
0.0678
1.9048
Kurd-Kurmanji-IQ-WGS
Iran
2AQ54
0.9695
0
0.0305
0.0305
0.753491
0.3456
1.9739
Kurd-Kurmanji-IQ-WGS
Iran
12AQ66
0.9705
0
0.0295
0.0295
0.753358
0.2443
1.955
Kurd-Kurmanji-IQ-WGS
Iran
15AQ74
0.9715
0
0.0285
0.0285
0.75239
0.0274
1.8787
Kurd-Kurmanji-IQ-WGS
Iran
4AQ99
0.9766
0
0.0234
0.0234
0.752303
0.041
1.8894
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Negah
12-17-2020, 10:46 PM
What are you asking exactly? Deciphering whether they are Assyrians, Arabs(Sunni/Shiite), or Kurd? Or their actual ancestral make up?
the current ethnicity they identify with.
The following are Iranian Baloch. They cluster near Pashtuns on PCA and 1 i forget which is almost indistiguishable from Kandahari Pashtuns. One of them is also Irani Turkmen shifted on PCA
Iran_Baloch 3AQ103
Iran_Baloch 5AQ103
Iran_Baloch 7AM153
Iran_Baloch 9AQ101
Iran_Baloch 11AQ103
Iran_Baloch 12AQ102
Iran_Baloch 13AQ100
Iran_Baloch 14AQ100
These are Iranian Turkmen. On PCA they have a decent range in E Eurasian shift with some heavy in Iran-N.
Iran_Turkmen 4AM149
Iran_Turkmen 5AM149
Iran_Turkmen 6AM149
Iran_Turkmen 8AM149
Iran_Turkmen 9AM149
Iran_Turkmen 10AM149
Iran_Turkmen 11AM149
Iran_Turkmen 12AM149
Iran_Turkmen 13AM149
Iran_Turkmen 14AM149
Iran_Turkmen 15AM149
@Zoro, can you classify the Syrian set?
The following samples are suspected as Kurds because they share substantial IBD segments with Iraqi Kurmanji Kurd. They can be further looked at with a calculator. They are indicating as 6th degree relatives
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FID1
FID2
IID2
Z0
Z1
Z2
PI_HAT
DST
PPC
RATIO
Kurd-Kurmanji-IQ-WGS
Turkey
18BA59
0.9605
0
0.0395
0.0395
0.754234
0.0448
1.8924
Kurd-Kurmanji-IQ-WGS
Iran
2AQ66
0.9633
0
0.0367
0.0367
0.753767
0.0321
1.8825
Kurd-Kurmanji-IQ-WGS
Iran
6AQ26
0.9653
0
0.0347
0.0347
0.753317
0.7266
2.0401
Kurd-Kurmanji-IQ-WGS
Iran
15AQ21
0.966
0
0.034
0.034
0.753537
0.0228
1.8738
Kurd-Kurmanji-IQ-WGS
Iran
8AM198
0.9665
0
0.0335
0.0335
0.753608
0.1989
1.9453
Kurd-Kurmanji-IQ-WGS
Iran
6AQ99
0.9665
0
0.0335
0.0335
0.753182
0.0051
1.8395
Kurd-Kurmanji-IQ-WGS
Iran
5AQ99
0.9674
0
0.0326
0.0326
0.753442
0.1098
1.9214
Kurd-Kurmanji-IQ-WGS
Iran
6AM140
0.9686
0
0.0314
0.0314
0.753664
0.0678
1.9048
Kurd-Kurmanji-IQ-WGS
Iran
2AQ54
0.9695
0
0.0305
0.0305
0.753491
0.3456
1.9739
Kurd-Kurmanji-IQ-WGS
Iran
12AQ66
0.9705
0
0.0295
0.0295
0.753358
0.2443
1.955
Kurd-Kurmanji-IQ-WGS
Iran
15AQ74
0.9715
0
0.0285
0.0285
0.75239
0.0274
1.8787
Kurd-Kurmanji-IQ-WGS
Iran
4AQ99
0.9766
0
0.0234
0.0234
0.752303
0.041
1.8894
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Just ran the 1st one with Leto's favorite calculator.
Looks like my prediction was correct based on IBD. The 1st one I ran looks like an Iranian Kurd; Iran 2AQ66
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 35.64
2 Gedrosia 25.64
3 Southwest_Asian 13.58
4 Atlantic_Med 8.93
5 North_European 7.28
6 South_Asian 3.15
7 East_Asian 2.56
8 Siberian 2.16
9 Northwest_African 0.83
10 Sub_Saharan 0.19
11 East_African 0.04
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Kurd (Dodecad) 6.57
2 Iranian (Dodecad) 6.59
3 Iranians (Behar) 7.03
4 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 7.79
5 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 11.91
6 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 12.89
7 Turks (Behar) 13.92
8 Turkish (Dodecad) 15.88
9 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 17.92
10 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 18.05
11 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 18.36
12 Assyrian (Dodecad) 18.48
13 Lebanese (Behar) 18.88
14 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 18.92
15 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 19.08
16 Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) 19.92
17 Syrians (Behar) 20.32
18 Armenian (Dodecad) 20.61
19 Jordanians (Behar) 22.62
20 Druze (HGDP) 23.13
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 79.3% Turks (Behar) + 20.7% Brahui (HGDP) @ 3.03
2 76% Turks (Behar) + 24% Makrani (HGDP) @ 3.06
3 67.7% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 32.3% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 3.08
4 82.7% Iranians (Behar) + 17.3% Greek (Dodecad) @ 3.21
5 57% Assyrian (Dodecad) + 43% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 3.23
6 56.4% Iraq_Jews (Behar) + 43.6% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 3.25
7 85.9% Iranians (Behar) + 14.1% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) @ 3.26
8 77.2% Turks (Behar) + 22.8% Balochi (HGDP) @ 3.27
9 85.5% Iranians (Behar) + 14.5% Bulgarian (Dodecad) @ 3.39
The 2nd Iranian sample which showed high IBD with Iraqi-Kurd is not as clear. It could be Kurd or Kurd-Persian or Kurd-Azeri mix: Iran 6AQ26
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 38.54
2 Gedrosia 20.93
3 Southwest_Asian 13.44
4 North_European 8.38
5 Atlantic_Med 7.83
6 South_Asian 4.99
7 East_Asian 3.67
8 Siberian 1.3
9 Sub_Saharan 0.47
10 Northwest_African 0.34
11 East_African 0.13
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Iranian (Dodecad) 8.85
2 Kurd (Dodecad) 9.22
3 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 9.49
4 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 10.09
5 Turks (Behar) 10.3
6 Iranians (Behar) 10.87
7 Turkish (Dodecad) 12.25
8 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 14.91
9 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 15.61
10 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 15.76
11 Assyrian (Dodecad) 16.34
12 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 16.38
13 Lebanese (Behar) 16.61
14 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 16.68
15 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 17.17
16 Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) 17.2
17 Armenian (Dodecad) 17.85
18 Syrians (Behar) 18.55
19 Druze (HGDP) 20.14
20 Jordanians (Behar) 20.95
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 63.7% Georgia_Jews (Behar) + 36.3% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 3.92
2 57.3% Druze (HGDP) + 42.7% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 3.92
3 62.6% Assyrian (Dodecad) + 37.4% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 4.12
4 57.9% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 42.1% Druze (HGDP) @ 4.21
5 74.3% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 25.7% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 4.23
6 61% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 39% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 4.24
7 63.6% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 36.4% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 4.33
8 51.3% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 48.7% Georgia_Jews (Behar) @ 4.52
9 84.1% Turks (Behar) + 15.9% Sindhi (HGDP) @ 4.61
10 83.9% Turks (Behar) + 16.1% Makrani (HGDP) @ 4.85
11 53.6% Iranians (Behar) + 46.4% Turkish (Dodecad) @ 4.88
12 52.5% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 47.5% Assyrian (Dodecad) @ 4.91
13 84.8% Turks (Behar) + 15.2% Balochi (HGDP) @ 4.97
14 80.4% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 19.6% Uzbeks (Behar) @ 5
15 86.3% Turks (Behar) + 13.7% Brahui (HGDP) @ 5.03
16 61.6% Iraq_Jews (Behar) + 38.4% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 5.04
17 51.7% Turks (Behar) + 48.3% Iranians (Behar) @ 5.05
18 76.6% Iranian (Dodecad) + 23.4% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) @ 5.05
19 77.4% Iranian (Dodecad) + 22.6% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) @ 5.05
20 53.9% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 46.1% Iraq_Jews (Behar) @ 5.06
This one also showed high IBD with Iraqi Kurd. Gedrosian and Caucasus consistent with Kurd but the problem is that the calculator doesn't have alot of Iranian kurd references which makes it a little harder Iran 6AQ99
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 40.2
2 Gedrosia 25.46
3 Southwest_Asian 9.42
4 North_European 7.06
5 Atlantic_Med 6.62
6 South_Asian 5.17
7 East_Asian 3.52
8 Siberian 2
9 Southeast_Asian 0.45
10 East_African 0.08
11 Northwest_African 0.01
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Iranian (Dodecad) 5.58
2 Kurd (Dodecad) 7.25
3 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 7.9
4 Iranians (Behar) 8.78
5 Turks (Behar) 12.24
6 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 12.41
7 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 13.1
8 Turkish (Dodecad) 14.61
9 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 15.46
10 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 16.92
11 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 17.47
12 Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) 17.48
13 Assyrian (Dodecad) 17.81
14 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 18.45
15 Armenian (Dodecad) 18.49
16 Lezgins (Behar) 20.05
17 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 20.17
18 Armenians (Behar) 20.84
19 Lebanese (Behar) 21.42
20 Chechens (Yunusbayev) 21.74
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 59.4% Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) + 40.6% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 3.22
2 57.5% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 42.5% Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) @ 3.28
3 68.3% Armenian (Dodecad) + 31.7% Burusho (HGDP) @ 3.29
4 69.6% Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) + 30.4% Burusho (HGDP) @ 3.38
5 84.7% Iranian (Dodecad) + 15.3% Nogais (Yunusbayev) @ 3.57
6 58.1% Armenian (Dodecad) + 41.9% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 3.58
7 59% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 41% Armenian (Dodecad) @ 3.6
8 60.3% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 39.7% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 3.65
9 56.9% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 43.1% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) @ 4.04
10 62.1% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 37.9% Armenians (Behar) @ 4.04
11 80.6% Turks (Behar) + 19.4% Balochi (HGDP) @ 4.08
12 96.7% Iranian (Dodecad) + 3.3% Japanese (HGDP) @ 4.14
13 96.7% Iranian (Dodecad) + 3.3% JPT30 (Behar) @ 4.14
14 95.8% Iranian (Dodecad) + 4.2% Naga (Metspalu) @ 4.15
15 96.3% Iranian (Dodecad) + 3.7% Korean (Dodecad) @ 4.15
16 95.6% Iranian (Dodecad) + 4.4% Tu (HGDP) @ 4.2
17 95.7% Iranian (Dodecad) + 4.3% Xibo (HGDP) @ 4.21
18 95.6% Iranian (Dodecad) + 4.4% Mongola (HGDP) @ 4.23
19 59.1% Assyrian (Dodecad) + 40.9% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 4.24
20 92.2% Iranian (Dodecad) + 7.8% Uygur (HGDP) @ 4.25
This sample which also showed high IBD with Iraqi Kurd also looks to be Iranian Kurd Iran 5AQ99
Kit RK9821002
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 40.46
2 Gedrosia 22.43
3 Southwest_Asian 12.38
4 Atlantic_Med 9.93
5 North_European 7.35
6 East_Asian 2.44
7 South_Asian 1.52
8 Siberian 1.36
9 Northwest_African 1.2
10 Southeast_Asian 0.76
11 East_African 0.16
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 7.28
2 Kurd (Dodecad) 7.37
3 Iranian (Dodecad) 7.85
4 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 8.67
5 Turks (Behar) 8.9
6 Iranians (Behar) 10.46
7 Turkish (Dodecad) 10.92
8 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 13.79
9 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 14.07
10 Assyrian (Dodecad) 14.41
11 Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) 15.03
12 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 15.09
13 Armenian (Dodecad) 15.59
14 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 16.18
15 Lebanese (Behar) 16.32
16 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 16.37
17 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 16.44
18 Armenians (Behar) 18.83
19 Syrians (Behar) 19.06
20 Druze (HGDP) 19.36
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 51.1% Iranians (Behar) + 48.9% Turkish (Dodecad) @ 2.14
2 77.2% Kurd (Dodecad) + 22.8% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) @ 2.26
3 78% Kurd (Dodecad) + 22% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) @ 2.46
4 76.9% Iranian (Dodecad) + 23.1% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) @ 2.61
5 76.2% Iranian (Dodecad) + 23.8% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) @ 2.61
6 79.9% Kurd (Dodecad) + 20.1% Greek (Dodecad) @ 2.68
7 54.4% Turks (Behar) + 45.6% Iranians (Behar) @ 2.68
8 60.7% Kurd (Dodecad) + 39.3% Turkish (Dodecad) @ 2.72
9 87.1% Turks (Behar) + 12.9% Brahui (HGDP) @ 2.75
10 79% Kurd (Dodecad) + 21% Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 2.79
11 85.1% Turks (Behar) + 14.9% Makrani (HGDP) @ 2.83
12 78.6% Kurd (Dodecad) + 21.4% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 2.87
13 85.8% Turks (Behar) + 14.2% Balochi (HGDP) @ 2.93
14 78% Iranian (Dodecad) + 22% Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 2.98
15 66.8% Assyrian (Dodecad) + 33.2% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 3.11
16 77.5% Iranian (Dodecad) + 22.5% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 3.12
17 75.9% Iranian (Dodecad) + 24.1% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) @ 3.15
18 78.3% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 21.7% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) @ 3.17
19 82.3% Kurd (Dodecad) + 17.7% C_Italian (Dodecad) @ 3.2
20 79.1% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 20.9% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) @ 3.26
I'll check out the rest of the samples on the Kurd's IBD list later
altaic
12-18-2020, 04:01 AM
Where in Turkey is your family from?
It seems that your eastern Anatolian side of the family has close relatives from East Azerbijan and your Tehrani side of the family are just East Azerbaijanis that migrated there. Tehran is about 25% Azeris if not more.
Everyone from both sides till 1850 born in Elazig. The way my grandparents speak was similar to Azeri. Many Azeri words like "pısik" for "cat". We don't have known ancestry from Azerbaijan though. I have heard Dagestan history from my grandpa, that is also not documented so I am not sure.
Just ran the 1st one with Leto's favorite calculator.
Looks like my prediction was correct based on IBD. The 1st one I ran looks like an Iranian Kurd; Iran 2AQ66
Those are the ones I have suspected to be Iranian Azeris, could be that one or two Kurds with high East Eurasian are among them:
Iranian:5AQ66,0.092197,0.078196,-0.045254,-0.041021,-0.042469,-0.00502,0.002115,0.000462,-0.026179,-0.009841,0.001786,3e-04,-0.001933,-0.002064,0.003257,0.004641,-0.006519,0.00038,0.006034,-0.013757,-0.003619,-0.005441,-0.004067,0.004338,-0.001796
Iranian:4AQ64,0.09675,0.07718,-0.050157,-0.033592,-0.038161,-0.008646,0.00282,-0.003461,-0.020452,-0.009294,0.001786,-0.003597,0.005054,-0.006331,-0.001493,0.009414,-0.006519,0.001394,0.002388,-0.005503,-0.00574,-0.000124,-0.002218,0.001205,0.004191
Iranian:14AQ61,0.092197,0.083273,-0.054305,-0.030362,-0.038161,0.012829,0.0047,-0.006692,-0.029451,-0.00656,0.003085,-0.001649,0.003865,-0.003303,-0.006107,-0.000133,-0.001825,-0.001647,0.003142,-0.004127,-0.004742,-0.001237,-0.0053,-0.008194,0.001676
Iranian:5AQ61,0.088782,0.085304,-0.051288,-0.027132,-0.030467,0.002231,0.002115,-0.000923,-0.019634,-0.010934,-0.000812,-0.00045,-0.002676,-0.00523,0.002443,0.006629,0.001043,0,-0.005154,-0.005503,-0.003369,-0.000124,-0.000493,0.000843,0.001916
Iranian:13AM103,0.088782,0.081242,-0.048649,-0.040698,-0.036314,-0.008088,0.006345,-0.003923,-0.032724,-0.003462,-0.000162,0.003147,0.001338,0.003441,-0.001629,0.005834,0.008345,-0.003927,0.002765,-0.008879,0.001248,-0.006801,-0.001356,-0.000241,0.00467
Iranian:4AQ26,0.087644,0.071087,-0.049403,-0.031977,-0.035699,-0.008646,0.001645,-0.003923,-0.028838,-0.004556,-0.001299,0.005395,0.003419,-0.001651,-0.000271,0.005304,0.001173,0.00266,0.003268,-0.009254,-0.001872,0.001237,0.001109,-0.004217,0.003473
Iranian:5AQ26,0.086506,0.079211,-0.049403,-0.029393,-0.040315,-0.00251,0.00799,-0.001385,-0.033133,-0.011116,-0.001137,0.002698,0.005946,-0.002477,0.007057,0.00769,-0.000261,0.004434,0.000377,-0.001751,0.000749,-0.00507,-0.00419,-0.004699,0.004191
Iranian:2AQ26,0.09675,0.090382,-0.050534,-0.033915,-0.042777,-0.003068,0.00188,-0.001846,-0.024747,-0.006925,0.00065,-0.003147,0.005054,-0.004129,-0.002714,0.013789,0.011604,-0.00076,-0.00264,-0.002501,0.000125,-0.003833,-0.00456,-0.003976,-0.005149
Iranian:3AQ61,0.099026,0.089367,-0.053551,-0.030039,-0.036007,-0.009482,0,-0.002538,-0.03027,-0.009112,-0.000812,-3e-04,0.006244,-0.004266,-0.008279,0.013789,0.012647,-0.00038,0.004651,-0.003502,-0.004866,-0.000618,-0.000739,-0.002892,0.001437
Iranian:6AQ26,0.085367,0.090382,-0.053551,-0.033915,-0.038776,-0.003904,-0.000235,-0.000462,-0.027202,-0.00656,-0.006496,-0.004496,0.005352,0.006881,-0.002714,0.006497,0.000522,0.003421,0.000251,-0.011005,0.00025,0.001484,-0.006532,-0.004458,0.003952
Iranian:12AQ64,0.088782,0.07718,-0.039598,-0.038437,-0.024004,-0.001394,0.00611,-0.004846,-0.023929,-0.01221,0.001949,-0.004346,-0.000892,-0.000688,0.000543,0.002121,-0.009909,-0.003547,0.001634,-0.001251,-0.000998,0.000495,-0.001232,-0.003133,0.000599
Iranian:12AQ53,0.095611,0.088351,-0.05242,-0.040698,-0.040315,-0.010877,-0.000705,-0.004154,-0.028429,-0.012392,0.002111,0.000599,0.001338,0.001376,-0.002172,0.008221,0.003651,0.004054,0.001634,0.002 876,0.003369,-0.004204,0.002218,-0.00241,0.002754
Iranian:7AQ66,0.093335,0.09546,-0.054305,-0.037468,-0.037545,-0.001394,0.003055,0.000462,-0.022498,0.000911,0.002923,0.001798,0.008325,0.003 028,-0.002443,0.001193,-0.012386,0.003927,0.002011,-0.008004,0.002371,0.000866,0.001725,-0.00494,-0.001676
Iranian:2AQ99,0.094473,0.085304,-0.051666,-0.033269,-0.042469,-0.003068,0.00188,-0.008769,-0.028633,-0.017495,-0.00065,-0.002398,0.002527,-0.00812,0.003529,0.01127,0.0103,-0.001394,0.001508,-0.007504,0.005865,-0.003339,-0.000123,-0.006627,0.004431
Iranian:3AQ21,0.097888,0.083273,-0.053174,-0.040375,-0.03693,-0.009203,0.010105,-0.004384,-0.030065,-0.011299,0.001137,-0.001649,-0.001784,-0.000688,0.0057,0.016706,0.008475,-0.004434,-0.000126,-0.001,-0.004118,0.000866,0.000863,-0.000964,-0.002395
Iranian:5AQ7,0.092197,0.07718,-0.057322,-0.043928,-0.03693,-0.003904,0.00846,0.001154,-0.027815,-0.007107,-0.002436,-0.001049,-0.002676,-0.00234,-0.0019,0.014187,0.018775,-0.000253,-0.000377,-0.004502,0.001622,-0.00507,0.003697,-0.007832,0.003473
Iranian:10AQ99,0.102441,0.098506,-0.050157,-0.040375,-0.028928,-0.004183,0.00235,-0.008077,-0.022907,-0.009659,-0.003897,0.001349,-0.000892,0.006744,0.004886,0.002519,-0.000782,0.004687,0.000126,-0.004377,-0.001497,0.009645,-0.010599,-0.000723,0.005389
Those are the ones I have suspected to be Iranian Azeris, could be that one or two Kurds with high East Eurasian are among them:
Iranian:5AQ66,0.092197,0.078196,-0.045254,-0.041021,-0.042469,-0.00502,0.002115,0.000462,-0.026179,-0.009841,0.001786,3e-04,-0.001933,-0.002064,0.003257,0.004641,-0.006519,0.00038,0.006034,-0.013757,-0.003619,-0.005441,-0.004067,0.004338,-0.001796
Iranian:4AQ64,0.09675,0.07718,-0.050157,-0.033592,-0.038161,-0.008646,0.00282,-0.003461,-0.020452,-0.009294,0.001786,-0.003597,0.005054,-0.006331,-0.001493,0.009414,-0.006519,0.001394,0.002388,-0.005503,-0.00574,-0.000124,-0.002218,0.001205,0.004191
Iranian:14AQ61,0.092197,0.083273,-0.054305,-0.030362,-0.038161,0.012829,0.0047,-0.006692,-0.029451,-0.00656,0.003085,-0.001649,0.003865,-0.003303,-0.006107,-0.000133,-0.001825,-0.001647,0.003142,-0.004127,-0.004742,-0.001237,-0.0053,-0.008194,0.001676
Iranian:5AQ61,0.088782,0.085304,-0.051288,-0.027132,-0.030467,0.002231,0.002115,-0.000923,-0.019634,-0.010934,-0.000812,-0.00045,-0.002676,-0.00523,0.002443,0.006629,0.001043,0,-0.005154,-0.005503,-0.003369,-0.000124,-0.000493,0.000843,0.001916
Iranian:13AM103,0.088782,0.081242,-0.048649,-0.040698,-0.036314,-0.008088,0.006345,-0.003923,-0.032724,-0.003462,-0.000162,0.003147,0.001338,0.003441,-0.001629,0.005834,0.008345,-0.003927,0.002765,-0.008879,0.001248,-0.006801,-0.001356,-0.000241,0.00467
Iranian:4AQ26,0.087644,0.071087,-0.049403,-0.031977,-0.035699,-0.008646,0.001645,-0.003923,-0.028838,-0.004556,-0.001299,0.005395,0.003419,-0.001651,-0.000271,0.005304,0.001173,0.00266,0.003268,-0.009254,-0.001872,0.001237,0.001109,-0.004217,0.003473
Iranian:5AQ26,0.086506,0.079211,-0.049403,-0.029393,-0.040315,-0.00251,0.00799,-0.001385,-0.033133,-0.011116,-0.001137,0.002698,0.005946,-0.002477,0.007057,0.00769,-0.000261,0.004434,0.000377,-0.001751,0.000749,-0.00507,-0.00419,-0.004699,0.004191
Iranian:2AQ26,0.09675,0.090382,-0.050534,-0.033915,-0.042777,-0.003068,0.00188,-0.001846,-0.024747,-0.006925,0.00065,-0.003147,0.005054,-0.004129,-0.002714,0.013789,0.011604,-0.00076,-0.00264,-0.002501,0.000125,-0.003833,-0.00456,-0.003976,-0.005149
Iranian:3AQ61,0.099026,0.089367,-0.053551,-0.030039,-0.036007,-0.009482,0,-0.002538,-0.03027,-0.009112,-0.000812,-3e-04,0.006244,-0.004266,-0.008279,0.013789,0.012647,-0.00038,0.004651,-0.003502,-0.004866,-0.000618,-0.000739,-0.002892,0.001437
Iranian:6AQ26,0.085367,0.090382,-0.053551,-0.033915,-0.038776,-0.003904,-0.000235,-0.000462,-0.027202,-0.00656,-0.006496,-0.004496,0.005352,0.006881,-0.002714,0.006497,0.000522,0.003421,0.000251,-0.011005,0.00025,0.001484,-0.006532,-0.004458,0.003952
Iranian:12AQ64,0.088782,0.07718,-0.039598,-0.038437,-0.024004,-0.001394,0.00611,-0.004846,-0.023929,-0.01221,0.001949,-0.004346,-0.000892,-0.000688,0.000543,0.002121,-0.009909,-0.003547,0.001634,-0.001251,-0.000998,0.000495,-0.001232,-0.003133,0.000599
Iranian:12AQ53,0.095611,0.088351,-0.05242,-0.040698,-0.040315,-0.010877,-0.000705,-0.004154,-0.028429,-0.012392,0.002111,0.000599,0.001338,0.001376,-0.002172,0.008221,0.003651,0.004054,0.001634,0.002 876,0.003369,-0.004204,0.002218,-0.00241,0.002754
Iranian:7AQ66,0.093335,0.09546,-0.054305,-0.037468,-0.037545,-0.001394,0.003055,0.000462,-0.022498,0.000911,0.002923,0.001798,0.008325,0.003 028,-0.002443,0.001193,-0.012386,0.003927,0.002011,-0.008004,0.002371,0.000866,0.001725,-0.00494,-0.001676
Iranian:2AQ99,0.094473,0.085304,-0.051666,-0.033269,-0.042469,-0.003068,0.00188,-0.008769,-0.028633,-0.017495,-0.00065,-0.002398,0.002527,-0.00812,0.003529,0.01127,0.0103,-0.001394,0.001508,-0.007504,0.005865,-0.003339,-0.000123,-0.006627,0.004431
Iranian:3AQ21,0.097888,0.083273,-0.053174,-0.040375,-0.03693,-0.009203,0.010105,-0.004384,-0.030065,-0.011299,0.001137,-0.001649,-0.001784,-0.000688,0.0057,0.016706,0.008475,-0.004434,-0.000126,-0.001,-0.004118,0.000866,0.000863,-0.000964,-0.002395
Iranian:5AQ7,0.092197,0.07718,-0.057322,-0.043928,-0.03693,-0.003904,0.00846,0.001154,-0.027815,-0.007107,-0.002436,-0.001049,-0.002676,-0.00234,-0.0019,0.014187,0.018775,-0.000253,-0.000377,-0.004502,0.001622,-0.00507,0.003697,-0.007832,0.003473
Iranian:10AQ99,0.102441,0.098506,-0.050157,-0.040375,-0.028928,-0.004183,0.00235,-0.008077,-0.022907,-0.009659,-0.003897,0.001349,-0.000892,0.006744,0.004886,0.002519,-0.000782,0.004687,0.000126,-0.004377,-0.001497,0.009645,-0.010599,-0.000723,0.005389
I realize Kurds and Azeris are sometimes indistinguishable and one or maybe two could be Azeri (the ones with 22% Gedrosia) but the rest I believe to be Kurds because:
1- Two of the 4 I posted are scoring 25% Gedrosia, 13% SW Asia, and 35 to 40% Caucuses which is what Kurds score. Azeris usually score around 20% Gedrosia
2- I checked against the Kurmanji Iraqi Kurd samples I have and ALL 12 components were very simillar meaning their distances to the Iraqi Kurrmanji samples were very small.
3- Being Kurds are the one of the two largest ethnic groups in Iran, it would be probability wise imposible that my Iraqi-Kurd sample would only get Azeri IBD matches and NO Kurd matches. The law of probability says that an Iraqi-Kurmanji Kurd would get SOME Azeri IBD matches and MOSTLY Kurd matches. Thus some should be Azeri and the rest Kurd.
It's the same with Azeris, the law of probability would say that an Iranian Azeri would get some Kurd and some Azeri IBD matches but not exclusively Azeri IBD matches.
The authors should be consulted on how those samples identify
I realize Kurds and Azeris are sometimes indistinguishable and one or maybe two could be Azeri (the ones with 22% Gedrosia) but the rest I believe to be Kurds because:
1- Two of the 4 I posted are scoring 25% Gedrosia, 13% SW Asia, and 35 to 40% Caucuses which is what Kurds score. Azeris usually score around 20% Gedrosia
2- I checked against the Kurmanji Iraqi Kurd samples I have and ALL 12 components were very simillar meaning their distances to the Iraqi Kurrmanji samples were very small.
3- Being Kurds are the one of the two largest ethnic groups in Iran, it would be probability wise imposible that my Iraqi-Kurd sample would only get Azeri IBD matches and NO Kurd matches. The law of probability says that an Iraqi-Kurmanji Kurd would get SOME Azeri IBD matches and MOSTLY Kurd matches. Thus some should be Azeri and the rest Kurd.
It's the same with Azeris, the law of probability would say that an Iranian Azeri would get some Kurd and some Azeri IBD matches but not exclusively Azeri IBD matches.
The authors should be consulted on how those samples identify
The hypothetical Azeri results (only two of them you suspected as Kurds):
https://i.imgur.com/bLlQr2i.jpg
The hypothetical Azeri results (only two of them you suspected as Kurds):
https://i.imgur.com/bLlQr2i.jpg
So which of these that have the high IBD matches with Iraqi Kurd do you believe could be Azeri
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Component
Gedrosia
Siberian
Northwest_African
Southeast_Asian
Atlantic_Med
North_European
South_Asian
East_African
Southwest_Asian
East_Asian
Caucasus
Sub_Saharan
“Mongoloid”
2AQ66
25.64
2.16
0.83
0
8.93
7.28
3.15
0
13.58
2.56
35.64
0.19
4.72
6AQ26
20.93
1.3
0.34
0
7.83
8.38
4.99
0.13
13.44
3.67
38.54
0.47
4.97
6AQ99
25.46
2
0
0.45
6.62
7.06
5.17
0.08
9.42
3.52
40.2
0
5.97
5AQ99
22.43
1.36
1.2
0.76
9.93
7.35
1.52
0.16
12.38
2.44
40.46
0
4.56
15AQ21
23.06
2.68
1.31
0
7.51
8.76
4.42
0
12.35
1.7
38.21
0
4.38
8AM198
23.83
0.81
1.39
1.81
8.78
6.77
3.31
0.9
12.37
1
39.04
0
3.62
</tbody>
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Pedro Ruben
12-18-2020, 11:20 AM
Distance: 6.7605% / 0.06760511
Target: Pedro_scaled
58.3 Ukrainian_B
33.1 Jordanian_B
8.6 Cypriot_B
Distance: 7.3364% / 0.07336403
Target: Dad_scaled
58.9 Ukrainian_B
40.6 Jordanian_B
0.5 Cypriot_B
Distance: 7.7343% / 0.07734338
Target: Mom_scaled
58.2 Ukrainian_B
28.9 Cypriot_B
12.9 Jordanian_B
So which of these that have the high IBD matches with Iraqi Kurd do you believe could be Azeri
It could be that all "AQ" results are actually Azeri. I don't see why Azerbaijanis couldn't have high IBD matches with Kurds. There are a lof of turkified Kurdish tribes in Azerbaijan. Kurdish tribes - in my opinion- are part of Azerbaijani ethnogenesis.
Here's another high IBD match with Iraqi Kurd Iran 2AQ54
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 42.06
2 Gedrosia 24.39
3 Southwest_Asian 13.04
4 North_European 7.74
5 Atlantic_Med 7.34
6 Siberian 3
7 South_Asian 1.38
8 East_Asian 0.83
9 East_African 0.21
10 Northwest_African 0.01
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 4.82
2 Kurd (Dodecad) 5.24
3 Iranian (Dodecad) 5.5
4 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 8.21
5 Iranians (Behar) 9.24
6 Turks (Behar) 10.04
7 Turkish (Dodecad) 12.67
8 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 13.4
9 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 13.58
10 Assyrian (Dodecad) 14.1
11 Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) 14.5
12 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 14.53
13 Armenian (Dodecad) 15.41
14 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 15.64
15 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 16.21
16 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 16.74
17 Lebanese (Behar) 17.93
18 Armenians (Behar) 18.55
19 Syrians (Behar) 20.26
20 Druze (HGDP) 20.42
It could be that all "AQ" results are actually Azeri. I don't see why Azerbaijanis couldn't have high IBD matches with Kurds. There are a lof of turkified Kurdish tribes in Azerbaijan. Kurdish tribes - in my opinion- are part of Azerbaijani ethnogenesis.
It's statistically impossible that the samples are:
1- scoring very similar scores on ALL 12 components with Iraqi Kurds,
2- have Gedrosia around 25%,
3- show Kurd in 1st place or 2nd place in Dodecad K12
4- Iraqi Kurd only makes IBD matches ONLY with Turkified Kurds or Azeris when regular Kurds are among the top 2 minorities population wise in Iran. Some IBD matches with Azeris/Turkefied Kurds, yes but mostly regular Kurds.
The probability of ALL 4 conditions I listed being satisfied and the majority of those Iranian samples listed not being normal Kurds is near 0%.
It's statistically impossible that the samples are:
1- scoring very similar scores on ALL 12 components with Iraqi Kurds,
2- have Gedrosia around 25%,
3- show Kurd in 1st place or 2nd place in Dodecad K12
4- Iraqi Kurd only makes IBD matches ONLY with Turkified Kurds or Azeris when regular Kurds are among the top 2 minorities population wise in Iran. Some IBD matches with Azeris/Turkefied Kurds, yes but mostly regular Kurds.
The probability of ALL 4 conditions I listed being satisfied and the majority of those Iranian samples listed not being normal Kurds is near 0%.
We know that the study included a large amount of Iranian Azeris and Iranian Kurds. There will be a small overlap between those groups and it's hard to figure out for these few samples. Impossible to know at this point we can only speculate.
We know that the study included a large amount of Iranian Azeris and Iranian Kurds. There will be a small overlap between those groups and it's hard to figure out for these few samples. Impossible to know at this point we can only speculate.
The other issue is that the Dodecad K12 averages are based on a handful of Kurds when in reality there are about 12 million kurds in Iran that cover various regions thoughout the country from east to west.
I'm sure if we go around to all the Kurdish villages from east to west Iran and sample 50 kurds from each village we will end up with maybe 20 different averages on the oracles.
For example, SW Iran Kurds may have Gedrosia ranges from 27-32% (based on the few Feyli kurds i've seen 26-30%). Other kurd averages may have E Asian significantly higher than the current average and so on.
For example this high IBD match with Iraqi Kurd could be a Feyli kurd but it could also be a Lur since some Lurs identify as Kurds or it could be an ethnic Persian. Hard to say with 100% certaintly
Admix Results (sorted): Iran 6AM140
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 39.71
2 Gedrosia 31.52
3 Southwest_Asian 12.63
4 North_European 5.43
5 Atlantic_Med 5.07
6 South_Asian 4.7
7 Southeast_Asian 0.6
8 East_African 0.34
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Iranian (Dodecad) 3.68
2 Iranians (Behar) 3.81
3 Kurd (Dodecad) 5.05
4 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 5.8
5 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 13.42
6 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 16.45
7 Turks (Behar) 18.08
8 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 18.16
9 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 18.58
10 Assyrian (Dodecad) 18.94
11 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 19.04
12 Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) 19.68
13 Turkish (Dodecad) 20.5
14 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 20.55
15 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 20.63
16 Armenian (Dodecad) 20.89
17 Lezgins (Behar) 22.16
18 Lebanese (Behar) 23.54
19 Armenians (Behar) 23.86
20 Syrians (Behar) 24.85
The hypothetical Azeri results (only two of them you suspected as Kurds):
https://i.imgur.com/bLlQr2i.jpg
Interesting none of the Azeris score below 5% E Eurasian, I saw one who shared his results on Anthrogenica and he had 3% but he was Republic Azeri maybe they have on average less Turkic input.
Interesting none of the Azeris score below 5% E Eurasian, I saw one who shared his results on Anthrogenica and he had 3% but he was Republic Azeri maybe they have on average less Turkic input.
From what I have seen/gathered turkic input in Iranian Azerbaijan seems to be fixed at these kind of levels. For example there hasn't been one sample with East Eurasian +10 (for now) but also rarely below 5%. While in the north there are couple of results with +10% East Eurasian (mostly in the North-west) but then there are also a lot of results with below 5% or 4% even. I guess it's because of the recent turkification process in the Republic of Azerbaijan due to being a recently formed state while Iranian Azerbaijanis are just an ethnicitiy inside Iran hence a more stable genetic makeup.
But Iranian Azerbaijanis are still undersampled in relation to their numbers, so there is still room for more variation. I'm of the opinion that the turkic input average is about the same for both.
I'll try. I haven't modeled them. Jordanian Muslims should have substantial Arabian ancestry compared to the Christians. Ill try it now
Please try analyzing the Syrians as well. That's a hefty and probably diverse sample size. After that we can apply your conclusions to Gedmatch.
From what I have seen/gathered turkic input in Iranian Azerbaijan seems to be fixed at these kind of levels. For example there hasn't been one sample with East Eurasian +10 (for now) but also rarely below 5%. While in the north there are couple of results with +10% East Eurasian (mostly in the North-west) but then there are also a lot of results with below 5% or 4% even. I guess it's because of the recent turkification process in the Republic of Azerbaijan due to being a recently formed state while Iranian Azerbaijanis are just an ethnicitiy inside Iran hence a more stable genetic makeup.
But Iranian Azerbaijanis are still undersampled in relation to their numbers, so there is still room for more variation. I'm of the opinion that the turkic input average is about the same for both.
Azeris are 8.8% "Ulchi" which is the proxy for Mongoloid in Balanovsky et al. Would be awesome to get all the data from that study for Ged and G25. It has a shitload of samples, I only managed to get some North Caucasians and Tajiks from Peterski & Lukasz.
Negah
12-19-2020, 11:25 AM
Everyone from both sides till 1850 born in Elazig. The way my grandparents speak was similar to Azeri. Many Azeri words like "pısik" for "cat". We don't have known ancestry from Azerbaijan though. I have heard Dagestan history from my grandpa, that is also not documented so I am not sure.
Also, it is not usual for Iranian Azeris from East Azerbijan to have ancestry from various Turkish tribes that roamed what is now eastern Turkey.
The following samples are suspected as Kurds because they share substantial IBD segments with Iraqi Kurmanji Kurd. They can be further looked at with a calculator. They are indicating as 6th degree relatives
<colgroup width="166"></colgroup> <colgroup width="85" span="9"></colgroup> <tbody>
FID1
FID2
IID2
Z0
Z1
Z2
PI_HAT
DST
PPC
RATIO
Kurd-Kurmanji-IQ-WGS
Turkey
18BA59
0.9605
0
0.0395
0.0395
0.754234
0.0448
1.8924
Kurd-Kurmanji-IQ-WGS
Iran
2AQ66
0.9633
0
0.0367
0.0367
0.753767
0.0321
1.8825
Kurd-Kurmanji-IQ-WGS
Iran
6AQ26
0.9653
0
0.0347
0.0347
0.753317
0.7266
2.0401
Kurd-Kurmanji-IQ-WGS
Iran
15AQ21
0.966
0
0.034
0.034
0.753537
0.0228
1.8738
Kurd-Kurmanji-IQ-WGS
Iran
8AM198
0.9665
0
0.0335
0.0335
0.753608
0.1989
1.9453
Kurd-Kurmanji-IQ-WGS
Iran
6AQ99
0.9665
0
0.0335
0.0335
0.753182
0.0051
1.8395
Kurd-Kurmanji-IQ-WGS
Iran
5AQ99
0.9674
0
0.0326
0.0326
0.753442
0.1098
1.9214
Kurd-Kurmanji-IQ-WGS
Iran
6AM140
0.9686
0
0.0314
0.0314
0.753664
0.0678
1.9048
Kurd-Kurmanji-IQ-WGS
Iran
2AQ54
0.9695
0
0.0305
0.0305
0.753491
0.3456
1.9739
Kurd-Kurmanji-IQ-WGS
Iran
12AQ66
0.9705
0
0.0295
0.0295
0.753358
0.2443
1.955
Kurd-Kurmanji-IQ-WGS
Iran
15AQ74
0.9715
0
0.0285
0.0285
0.75239
0.0274
1.8787
Kurd-Kurmanji-IQ-WGS
Iran
4AQ99
0.9766
0
0.0234
0.0234
0.752303
0.041
1.8894
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I asked Dilawer to dig in a little further with formal stats to help me confirm whether the Iranian samples IBD and Dodecad K12 calculator had indicated that they were genetically Kurds. I had posted Dodecad K12 a couple of pages back and IBD above
It seems that formal stats is showing that some of the samples I had put into the Kurdish basket need to be taken out as they are genetically borderline Kurdish/Azeri types. However, some of the ones I put in the Kurdish basket were confirmed as Kurdish genetically based on formal stats.
I also myself got some G20 PCA coordinates for comparison.
I'll post some formal stats for the ones confirmed and the ones decided as borderline cases along with formal stat population averages for comparison some time today.
The text is fucked up again as usual when Zoro posts his IBD sharing program but I thought I'll share with you guys the PCA 25 coordinates me and Mingle created so far
Syrian_Arab,0.05529905,0.12567181667,-0.0523505667,-0.06750161667,-0.01849058333,-0.02212065,-0.00329001667,-0.00364218333,0.004053,-0.0023205,0.00424371667,-0.0078155333,0.0154705667,0.00013765,-0.00216025,0.009011667,-0.00384845,0.0014865,0.00234215,0.00186961667,0.00 10772333,0.00282341667,-0.001947333,0.00103228333,-5.18667E-5
Jordanian_Arab,0.046043258064516,0.13346016129032,-0.047383419354839,-0.074571322580645,-0.012498580645161,-0.026620612903226,-0.0066482903225806,-0.0035655806451613,0.012515516129032,0.00084067741 935484,0.0060816451612903,-0.0073482903225806,0.017239870967742,-0.00046167741935484,-0.00089316129032258,0.0063385806451613,-0.0027003225806452,0.0012137741935484,6.4774193548 387E-5,0.0039817096774194,-0.00016506451612903,0.00092529032258065,-1.5935483870968E-5,0.0012942903225806,-0.00024722580645161
Iraqi_Arab,0.056671842105263,0.115022,-0.060557684210526,-0.057477,-0.028329,-0.016792157894737,-0.0026344736842105,-0.0036071578947368,0.0022927894736842,-0.0053135789473684,0.0043075263157895,-0.0096151052631579,0.017189947368421,-0.0014051578947368,0.0018286842105263,0.0130704736 84211,-0.0064575263157895,0.001907,0.0012305263157895,-0.00063194736842105,0.0039207368421053,0.001776631 5789474,-0.0020108947368421,-1.2684210526316E-5,-0.00014494736842105
Assyrian_Iraq,0.09665475,0.1350230417,-0.06183204167,-0.064317375,-0.03018504167,-0.02003370833,0.001693958333,-0.006038208333,-0.01887591667,-0.003394041667,0.004309916667,-0.002760041667,0.006218958333,0.0006994583333,-0.003038913043,0.008126666667,-0.000472625,0.001594083333,0.004011434783,-0.004545695652,-0.0007485833333,0.001169458333,-0.0009244166667,-0.0006175,0.001756333333
Jordanian_Christian,0.0833186,0.1451191,-0.0494406,-0.0853689,-0.0085246,-0.0335228,-0.0037365,-0.0064612,0.0088559,0.0074717,0.0053102,-0.0062946,0.0163526,0.003014,-0.0066774,0.0016839,-0.0063368,-0.0002786,0.0033057,0.0010506,-0.0007361,0.004011888889,-0.002149888889,0.0028075,0.0004431
I created the first three and Mingle the remaining two based on samples I provided for him. The Assyrian average might include one or two Mandaeans and the Syrian average might include a couple Syrian Christians. I excluded the obvious outliers(Egyptians among the Jordanians. Kurds among the Iraqi and Syrians etc)
As mentioned here is some analysis of the new samples. I did some and some credit goes to Dilawer. I'm posting the PCAs with some populations excluded for clarity. As you can see only 20% of the variation is captured by PC1 and PC2 (because the pops are from Iran and Jordan only). That's why I'm also posting additional PCs so you have an idea how the samples relate to each.
It is clear that there are more Iranian Turkmen and Baloch samples than I initially identified. They are still labeled Iranian. I'll post the code sheet later so you can decode the samples.
I posted some Iraqi Kurd samples for reference (2 kurmanji, 1 sorani, 1 feyli). The newly identified Iranian Kurd samples fall within the variation of the existing Iraqi Kurds. Decode sheet coming later.
I zoomed in thus many Jordanian and Iranian Afro samples are off the chart.
https://i.imgur.com/THdYJAV.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/nZUvHyo.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/pmRESR5.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/NITnKyu.jpg
The following samples are suspected as Kurds because they share substantial IBD segments with Iraqi Kurmanji Kurd. They can be further looked at with a calculator. They are indicating as 6th degree relatives
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FID1
FID2
IID2
Z0
Z1
Z2
PI_HAT
DST
PPC
RATIO
Kurd-Kurmanji-IQ-WGS
Turkey
18BA59
0.9605
0
0.0395
0.0395
0.754234
0.0448
1.8924
Kurd-Kurmanji-IQ-WGS
Iran
2AQ66
0.9633
0
0.0367
0.0367
0.753767
0.0321
1.8825
Kurd-Kurmanji-IQ-WGS
Iran
6AQ26
0.9653
0
0.0347
0.0347
0.753317
0.7266
2.0401
Kurd-Kurmanji-IQ-WGS
Iran
15AQ21
0.966
0
0.034
0.034
0.753537
0.0228
1.8738
Kurd-Kurmanji-IQ-WGS
Iran
8AM198
0.9665
0
0.0335
0.0335
0.753608
0.1989
1.9453
Kurd-Kurmanji-IQ-WGS
Iran
6AQ99
0.9665
0
0.0335
0.0335
0.753182
0.0051
1.8395
Kurd-Kurmanji-IQ-WGS
Iran
5AQ99
0.9674
0
0.0326
0.0326
0.753442
0.1098
1.9214
Kurd-Kurmanji-IQ-WGS
Iran
6AM140
0.9686
0
0.0314
0.0314
0.753664
0.0678
1.9048
Kurd-Kurmanji-IQ-WGS
Iran
2AQ54
0.9695
0
0.0305
0.0305
0.753491
0.3456
1.9739
Kurd-Kurmanji-IQ-WGS
Iran
12AQ66
0.9705
0
0.0295
0.0295
0.753358
0.2443
1.955
Kurd-Kurmanji-IQ-WGS
Iran
15AQ74
0.9715
0
0.0285
0.0285
0.75239
0.0274
1.8787
Kurd-Kurmanji-IQ-WGS
Iran
4AQ99
0.9766
0
0.0234
0.0234
0.752303
0.041
1.8894
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The samples initially suspected as Iranian kurds using Dodecad K12b oracles and component scores and IBD with Iraqi Kurd were processed with formal stats, Qpwave for confirmation. QpWave confirmed some of those samples as genetically Kurd whereas others could be rejected as Kurds (according to Iraqi Kurds). They still could be 50-70% Kurdish.
The ones confirmed are in the various green shaded areas, the borderline Kurd/Azeri (or something else) in the white shaded areas. The red shaded ones don't form a clade with Iraqi Kurds. They are sorted from closest genetically to furthest.
I was surprised to see that the Iranian cluster as a whole are genetically that high up the list on Kurds unlike other population clusters.
https://i.imgur.com/NYTblPf.jpg?1
Someone here mentioned that the Iranians clustering close to Jordanians are Iranian Arabs. That indeed seems to be the case. Also as mentioned I had to zoom in for clarity there were Iranians and Jordanians off the charts. Those are clearly ones with substantial SSA. I will post the decode sheets later so you can identify the samples. It also is clear that some more samples need to be added to the Turkmen and Baloch groups and some of them may be admixed with neighbors
Here is the code sheet for the above PCAs
SAMPLE CODE
3AQ103 BAL127
5AQ103 BAL128
7AM153 BAL129
9AQ101 BAL130
11AQ103 BAL131
12AQ102 BAL132
13AQ100 BAL133
14AQ100 BAL134
12AQ64 IR100
12AQ69 IR102
12AQ99 IR103
13AM103 IR104
13AM164 IR105
13AM185 IR106
13AQ69 IR107
13AQ111 IR108
14AM122 IR109
2AQ65 IR11
14AM140 IR110
14AM164 IR111
14AQ60 IR112
14AQ69 IR113
14AQ111 IR114
15AM185 IR115
15AQ60 IR117
15AQ74 IR118
15AQ111 IR119
16AM111 IR120
16AM122 IR121
16AM140 IR122
16AM185 IR123
16AQ65 IR124
16AQ66 IR125
16AQ111 IR126
2AQ99 IR13
3AQ21 IR14
3AQ61 IR15
3AQ65 IR16
3AQ66 IR17
3AQ100 IR18
3AQ101 IR19
3AQ112 IR20
4AM100 IR21
4AM157 IR23
4AM187 IR24
4AQ26 IR25
4AQ64 IR26
4AQ99 IR27
4AQ101 IR28
5AM103 IR29
5AM111 IR30
5AM123 IR31
5AM140 IR32
5AQ7 IR33
5AQ12 IR34
5AQ26 IR35
5AQ60 IR36
5AQ61 IR37
5AQ65 IR38
1AQ64 IR4
5AQ70 IR40
6AM121 IR42
6AM187 IR44
6AQ65 IR46
6AQ66 IR47
7AM94 IR49
1AQ65 IR5
7AM140 IR50
7AM164 IR51
7AQ60 IR52
7AQ65 IR53
7AQ66 IR54
7AQ69 IR55
7AQ101 IR56
8AM100 IR57
8AM164 IR58
8AM187 IR59
1AQ66 IR6
8AQ64 IR61
8AQ65 IR62
8AQ66 IR63
8AQ99 IR64
8AQ101 IR65
9AM100 IR66
9AM140 IR67
9AM141 IR68
9AM164 IR69
1AQ99 IR7
9AM185 IR70
9AM187 IR71
9AQ61 IR72
9AQ64 IR73
9AQ69 IR74
9AQ86 IR75
9AQ100 IR76
9AQ102 IR77
10AM180 IR78
10AM187 IR79
1AQ112 IR8
10AQ60 IR80
10AQ66 IR81
10AQ69 IR82
10AQ86 IR83
10AQ99 IR84
10AQ100 IR85
10AQ102 IR86
11AM140 IR87
11AM160 IR88
11AM180 IR89
2AM198 IR9
11AM187 IR90
11AQ64 IR91
11AQ66 IR92
11AQ69 IR93
11AQ102 IR94
12AM122 IR95
12AQ53 IR96
12AQ60 IR98
12AQ61 IR99
1AM65 JO146
1AM76 JO147
2AM63 JO148
2AM66 JO149
3AM58 JO150
3AM63 JO151
3AM68 JO152
3AM77 JO153
4AM64 JO154
5AM60 JO155
5AM68 JO156
6AM65 JO157
6AM74 JO158
7AM66 JO159
8AM45 JO160
8AM66 JO161
8AM74 JO162
8AM77 JO163
9AM68 JO164
10AM58 JO165
10AM65 JO166
10AM74 JO167
11AM58 JO168
12AM58 JO169
13AM58 JO170
13AM74 JO171
15AM64 JO172
15AM65 JO173
15AM66 JO174
16AM66 JO175
16AM68 JO176
24AL42 JO177
Jordan1 JO178
Jordan2 JO179
Jordan3 JO180
Jordan4 JO181
Jordan5 JO182
Jordan6 JO183
Kurd-IQ-Kurm KD1
Kurd-IQ-Sorani KD2
Kurd-IQ-Feyli KD3
Kurd-IQ-Kurm KD4
2AQ54 KD10
12AQ66 KD101
15AQ21 KD116
2AQ66 KD12
5AQ66 KD39
5AQ99 KD41
6AM140 KD43
6AQ26 KD45
6AQ99 KD48
8AM198 KD60
12AQ54 KD97
4AM149 TKM135
5AM149 TKM136
6AM149 TKM137
8AM149 TKM138
9AM149 TKM139
10AM149 TKM140
11AM149 TKM141
12AM149 TKM142
13AM149 TKM143
14AM149 TKM144
15AM149 TKM145
Armenians officially qualify for Aliyah.
This is the same PC1/PC2 on previous page but without labels.
https://i.imgur.com/9DvisSm.jpg
Trouble
12-21-2020, 04:28 AM
Please try analyzing the Syrians as well. That's a hefty and probably diverse sample size. After that we can apply your conclusions to Gedmatch.
This makes no sense:
Target: Syrian:Ber9AG181
Distance: 1.8032% / 0.01803179
35.4 Egyptian
23.8 Druze
19.2 Assyrian
16.2 German
4.8 Kurdish
0.6 Turkmen
Target: Syrian:Ber7R59
Distance: 1.5430% / 0.01542975
48.6 Druze
17.2 Assyrian
14.2 German
9.0 Turkmen
7.0 Egyptian
3.0 Kurdish
1.0 Dinka
Target: Syrian:Ber6AG118
Distance: 1.2718% / 0.01271757
28.8 Kurdish
23.0 BedouinB
18.6 Assyrian
17.0 Egyptian
5.8 Lebanese_Christian
4.4 Somali_Kenya
1.8 Dinka
0.6 Turkmen
Target: Syrian:Ber5R35
Distance: 2.1541% / 0.02154147
42.6 Egyptian
20.8 Assyrian
17.4 Druze
12.4 German
3.0 BedouinB
2.4 Lebanese_Christian
1.4 Dinka
Target: Syrian:Ber5AL16
Distance: 1.7473% / 0.01747349
36.6 Egyptian
35.6 Kurdish
18.0 Assyrian
4.8 BedouinB
2.2 Druze
1.6 Lebanese_Christian
0.6 Dinka
0.6 Somali_Kenya
Target: Syrian:Ber5AL10
Distance: 1.7620% / 0.01762034
32.4 Lebanese_Christian
24.4 Kurdish
16.4 Egyptian
11.6 BedouinB
6.6 German
4.6 Somali_Kenya
4.0 Assyrian
Target: Syrian:Ber5AG112
Distance: 2.2536% / 0.02253605
58.0 Kurdish
20.0 Assyrian
14.2 Turkmen
6.4 German
1.4 Dinka
Target: Syrian:Ber4AG112
Distance: 1.6900% / 0.01689976
53.4 Assyrian
13.6 Druze
11.0 Turkmen
9.2 BedouinB
8.2 German
4.6 Egyptian
Target: Syrian:Ber3AG163
Distance: 2.5991% / 0.02599109
32.6 Druze
26.6 Assyrian
22.2 Lebanese_Christian
10.8 Egyptian
3.0 German
2.6 Turkmen
2.2 BedouinB
Target: Syrian:Ber1AM54
Distance: 1.7391% / 0.01739097
32.2 Kurdish
18.8 Egyptian
15.2 BedouinB
14.0 Lebanese_Christian
8.4 Assyrian
7.2 Turkmen
3.0 Dinka
1.2 German
Target: Syrian:Ber1AH252
Distance: 1.9856% / 0.01985631
40.6 Druze
35.0 Assyrian
11.4 BedouinB
9.4 Lebanese_Christian
2.4 Kurdish
0.8 Somali_Kenya
0.4 German
Target: Syrian:Ber17AG57
Distance: 1.7485% / 0.01748499
47.2 Assyrian
17.2 Egyptian
9.6 Kurdish
8.8 BedouinB
8.4 German
6.8 Turkmen
2.0 Dinka
Target: Syrian:Ber17AG181
Distance: 1.8636% / 0.01863556
35.2 Lebanese_Christian
28.2 Kurdish
14.4 Druze
7.4 German
5.2 BedouinB
4.8 Egyptian
4.8 Turkmen
Target: Syrian:Ber16AG184
Distance: 1.9573% / 0.01957254
49.6 Assyrian
32.0 Lebanese_Christian
11.4 Egyptian
6.8 Druze
0.2 German
Target: Syrian:Ber16AG177
Distance: 3.0347% / 0.03034690
27.4 Lebanese_Christian
24.6 Assyrian
24.6 Egyptian
14.8 Kurdish
7.2 German
1.4 Turkmen
Target: Syrian:Ber13R7
Distance: 2.1405% / 0.02140509
46.2 Egyptian
27.6 Assyrian
13.6 Lebanese_Christian
8.8 BedouinB
3.6 Kurdish
0.2 Dinka
Target: Syrian:Ber12AL16
Distance: 2.6936% / 0.02693574
38.2 Kurdish
36.6 BedouinB
12.2 Assyrian
8.4 Dinka
2.4 Turkmen
2.2 German
Target: Syrian:Ber12AG184
Distance: 2.0413% / 0.02041264
39.6 Assyrian
38.4 Druze
9.8 Turkmen
7.6 German
4.6 Egyptian
Target: Syrian:Ber10AH252
Distance: 1.5918% / 0.01591796
29.0 Assyrian
24.8 Kurdish
23.8 Druze
8.8 Egyptian
6.6 German
2.8 Lebanese_Christian
1.6 Somali_Kenya
1.4 Turkmen
1.2 BedouinB
Target: Syrian:Aut-11-12-09-03
Distance: 0.8094% / 0.00809441
42.2 Druze
22.6 Assyrian
12.0 Kurdish
11.6 Egyptian
8.0 Turkmen
2.2 BedouinB
0.8 Dinka
0.6 German
Target: Syrian:Aut-11-12-09-02
Distance: 0.6439% / 0.00643893
29.4 Assyrian
17.6 Druze
15.4 Kurdish
12.4 Egyptian
10.8 Lebanese_Christian
10.6 German
3.6 Turkmen
0.2 Somali_Kenya
Target: Syrian:Aut-11-12-09-01
Distance: 1.1192% / 0.01119153
29.6 Assyrian
26.6 Druze
18.6 Egyptian
16.0 Kurdish
6.4 German
2.8 Turkmen
Target: Syrian:Aut-11-12-01-03
Distance: 1.2571% / 0.01257125
23.0 Assyrian
19.0 Druze
18.4 Kurdish
16.2 Lebanese_Christian
15.8 Egyptian
5.8 Turkmen
1.8 German
Target: Syrian:Aut-11-12-01-02
Distance: 1.2821% / 0.01282119
28.0 Assyrian
27.8 Druze
20.8 Lebanese_Christian
9.6 Egyptian
6.8 Kurdish
4.2 Turkmen
2.8 German
Target: Syrian:Aut-11-12-01-01
Distance: 1.7101% / 0.01710101
53.0 Druze
25.2 Assyrian
14.0 Egyptian
6.4 Turkmen
1.4 German
Target: Syrian:9AR16
Distance: 0.9888% / 0.00988774
27.8 Kurdish
27.4 Egyptian
12.4 BedouinB
10.0 Druze
9.0 Turkmen
5.2 Lebanese_Christian
3.8 Assyrian
3.4 Dinka
1.0 German
Target: Syrian:9AR15
Distance: 0.9469% / 0.00946946
30.2 BedouinB
30.0 Kurdish
17.4 Egyptian
16.0 Assyrian
4.0 Somali_Kenya
1.6 Dinka
0.6 Turkmen
0.2 Lebanese_Christian
Target: Syrian:8AR15
Distance: 1.2108% / 0.01210792
37.8 Lebanese_Christian
19.8 Egyptian
14.2 BedouinB
13.8 Assyrian
6.4 Kurdish
5.0 Turkmen
2.8 German
0.2 Dinka
Target: Syrian:8AH252
Distance: 1.6077% / 0.01607744
44.4 Druze
28.2 Lebanese_Christian
13.2 Assyrian
9.6 Egyptian
4.6 German
Target: Syrian:7AR15
Distance: 1.6384% / 0.01638423
33.2 Assyrian
20.4 Druze
16.8 Egyptian
16.0 BedouinB
7.8 Turkmen
5.8 Dinka
Target: Syrian:6AR16
Distance: 1.0299% / 0.01029916
34.2 Kurdish
33.0 BedouinB
8.2 Egyptian
6.8 Druze
6.2 Turkmen
3.6 Lebanese_Christian
3.2 German
3.0 Dinka
1.4 Somali_Kenya
0.4 Assyrian
Target: Syrian:6AR15
Distance: 1.4243% / 0.01424342
36.8 Egyptian
31.2 Assyrian
17.0 BedouinB
5.8 Lebanese_Christian
5.6 German
3.6 Turkmen
Target: Syrian:6AJ118
Distance: 0.8651% / 0.00865098
37.8 Assyrian
26.4 BedouinB
17.0 Egyptian
6.0 Kurdish
6.0 Druze
3.8 Dinka
3.0 Turkmen
Target: Syrian:6AH252
Distance: 1.1105% / 0.01110510
53.2 Druze
14.0 Assyrian
14.0 Lebanese_Christian
7.8 BedouinB
5.8 Egyptian
5.2 German
Target: Syrian:5B44
Distance: 1.0480% / 0.01048011
58.2 Kurdish
14.8 Assyrian
9.4 Turkmen
6.8 German
4.0 Druze
3.2 BedouinB
2.8 Egyptian
0.8 Lebanese_Christian
Target: Syrian:5AS15
Distance: 1.2883% / 0.01288304
48.4 Druze
23.4 Lebanese_Christian
21.2 Assyrian
3.8 BedouinB
3.2 German
Target: Syrian:5AR16
Distance: 0.8950% / 0.00894961
38.6 Assyrian
20.6 Egyptian
19.2 BedouinB
9.8 Druze
5.2 German
4.0 Turkmen
2.6 Somali_Kenya
Target: Syrian:5AJ112
Distance: 1.4781% / 0.01478098
76.2 Kurdish
13.6 Turkmen
7.2 German
2.6 Assyrian
0.4 Dinka
Target: Syrian:5AH252
Distance: 1.9779% / 0.01977905
63.6 Lebanese_Christian
15.4 Druze
10.0 Egyptian
5.4 Kurdish
4.6 Turkmen
1.0 German
Target: Syrian:4AJ120
Distance: 1.1835% / 0.01183534
33.2 Egyptian
29.4 Assyrian
24.4 BedouinB
8.4 Kurdish
4.2 Lebanese_Christian
0.4 German
Target: Syrian:4AJ112
Distance: 0.8218% / 0.00821842
64.4 Assyrian
11.4 Turkmen
9.0 Egyptian
7.8 German
4.4 BedouinB
3.0 Kurdish
Target: Syrian:3AR16
Distance: 1.9315% / 0.01931474
29.8 Assyrian
29.0 Egyptian
21.4 BedouinB
9.8 Druze
6.6 Kurdish
3.4 Dinka
Target: Syrian:3AJ120
Distance: 1.2825% / 0.01282490
24.6 Druze
23.8 Kurdish
16.8 Lebanese_Christian
15.6 Egyptian
11.6 Assyrian
5.4 German
2.2 Somali_Kenya
Target: Syrian:3AJ118
Distance: 1.3676% / 0.01367580
37.4 Kurdish
17.2 Lebanese_Christian
17.2 Assyrian
11.0 Turkmen
8.6 Druze
8.6 German
Target: Syrian:3AJ116
Distance: 1.2803% / 0.01280291
79.2 Assyrian
15.8 Druze
2.8 German
2.0 Turkmen
0.2 BedouinB
Target: Syrian:3AJ112
Distance: 1.0035% / 0.01003521
56.8 Kurdish
13.0 Turkmen
11.0 Assyrian
11.0 BedouinB
4.4 Druze
3.2 German
0.6 Dinka
Target: Syrian:3AH326
Distance: 1.1329% / 0.01132933
28.6 Assyrian
22.2 BedouinB
18.8 Egyptian
15.4 Kurdish
5.2 Druze
4.2 Lebanese_Christian
3.0 Turkmen
2.6 Dinka
Target: Syrian:29AH252
Distance: 1.0950% / 0.01095027
44.0 Kurdish
31.8 Egyptian
11.4 Druze
5.0 German
3.6 BedouinB
2.0 Dinka
1.6 Turkmen
0.6 Lebanese_Christian
Target: Syrian:28AR15
Distance: 1.2560% / 0.01255964
38.8 Kurdish
25.8 BedouinB
22.4 Egyptian
9.0 Lebanese_Christian
3.6 Dinka
0.4 Assyrian
Target: Syrian:26AR15
Distance: 1.0688% / 0.01068793
41.4 BedouinB
32.2 Kurdish
8.6 Egyptian
6.0 Assyrian
3.8 Druze
3.0 German
2.6 Dinka
2.2 Turkmen
0.2 Somali_Kenya
Target: Syrian:26AH252
Distance: 0.8411% / 0.00841081
51.0 Lebanese_Christian
22.2 Assyrian
17.6 Druze
4.6 Egyptian
3.8 Kurdish
0.8 BedouinB
Target: Syrian:24AR18
Distance: 0.7075% / 0.00707527
29.4 Assyrian
28.6 BedouinB
13.4 Druze
10.2 Egyptian
8.8 Kurdish
4.8 Dinka
4.8 Turkmen
Target: Syrian:24AR15
Distance: 1.1429% / 0.01142889
38.0 Assyrian
20.4 Egyptian
13.8 BedouinB
10.6 Kurdish
9.8 German
4.2 Turkmen
3.2 Dinka
Target: Syrian:23AR15
Distance: 1.2483% / 0.01248291
36.0 Assyrian
26.6 BedouinB
12.0 Kurdish
8.6 Turkmen
8.0 Egyptian
4.4 Dinka
4.0 Lebanese_Christian
0.4 Somali_Kenya
Target: Syrian:22AR18
Distance: 0.7786% / 0.00778633
44.4 BedouinB
24.2 Kurdish
11.8 Lebanese_Christian
5.8 Dinka
5.2 Druze
3.2 Turkmen
2.8 Assyrian
2.0 German
0.6 Somali_Kenya
Target: Syrian:21AR18
Distance: 1.0487% / 0.01048693
33.8 BedouinB
27.8 Kurdish
18.6 Druze
8.8 Assyrian
5.0 Dinka
4.6 Egyptian
1.4 Turkmen
Target: Syrian:20AR15
Distance: 0.7394% / 0.00739382
37.4 Druze
23.4 Assyrian
21.6 BedouinB
6.8 Turkmen
4.2 Dinka
3.2 Lebanese_Christian
2.4 Egyptian
0.8 Somali_Kenya
0.2 German
Target: Syrian:2AR16
Distance: 1.1280% / 0.01127972
26.4 Assyrian
23.6 Egyptian
18.6 BedouinB
12.8 Druze
6.6 Turkmen
6.4 Kurdish
4.6 Somali_Kenya
0.6 Lebanese_Christian
0.4 German
Target: Syrian:19AR15
Distance: 0.8710% / 0.00871032
23.0 BedouinB
18.4 Assyrian
16.0 Lebanese_Christian
13.2 Kurdish
7.8 Druze
7.0 Egyptian
7.0 Somali_Kenya
3.4 German
2.2 Turkmen
2.0 Dinka
Target: Syrian:19AL16
Distance: 0.9736% / 0.00973611
41.4 Assyrian
15.4 BedouinB
11.0 Egyptian
8.0 Druze
7.6 Lebanese_Christian
7.0 Turkmen
3.8 Kurdish
3.2 Somali_Kenya
2.6 Dinka
Target: Syrian:18AR15
Distance: 1.3354% / 0.01335364
32.6 Kurdish
30.4 BedouinB
14.2 Assyrian
8.8 Turkmen
7.2 Dinka
5.4 Egyptian
1.4 German
Target: Syrian:18AJ152
Distance: 1.4628% / 0.01462798
64.4 Assyrian
16.2 Lebanese_Christian
15.2 Druze
2.6 Kurdish
1.6 German
Target: Syrian:17AJ181
Distance: 0.9175% / 0.00917543
33.0 Druze
28.0 Kurdish
17.6 Lebanese_Christian
9.2 BedouinB
7.0 German
4.0 Turkmen
1.2 Somali_Kenya
Target: Syrian:17AJ119
Distance: 1.0184% / 0.01018407
37.4 Assyrian
19.0 Kurdish
17.6 Egyptian
8.8 Turkmen
5.6 Druze
5.0 Lebanese_Christian
3.2 German
1.8 Dinka
1.6 BedouinB
Target: Syrian:17AH326
Distance: 1.1723% / 0.01172345
40.2 Assyrian
25.8 Egyptian
10.0 Druze
7.0 Kurdish
7.0 Turkmen
4.0 BedouinB
4.0 Lebanese_Christian
2.0 German
Target: Syrian:16AR22
Distance: 0.7610% / 0.00761015
42.8 Druze
28.2 Lebanese_Christian
17.8 Assyrian
5.2 German
3.2 Egyptian
2.8 BedouinB
Target: Syrian:16AJ177
Distance: 1.3098% / 0.01309777
35.4 Lebanese_Christian
24.6 Egyptian
18.2 Druze
12.4 Kurdish
6.2 German
1.8 Turkmen
1.4 BedouinB
Target: Syrian:16AJ100
Distance: 1.3375% / 0.01337509
30.8 Kurdish
29.4 BedouinB
13.2 Assyrian
7.6 Lebanese_Christian
7.0 Egyptian
6.6 Turkmen
5.4 Dinka
Target: Syrian:16AH326
Distance: 1.0614% / 0.01061431
29.2 Assyrian
24.4 Lebanese_Christian
20.8 Egyptian
16.8 Druze
4.0 German
2.6 Turkmen
2.2 BedouinB
Target: Syrian:15R7
Distance: 0.9199% / 0.00919895
33.4 Kurdish
24.8 Assyrian
17.2 Egyptian
11.4 Druze
8.4 BedouinB
4.2 Turkmen
0.6 Dinka
Target: Syrian:15AR16
Distance: 1.4859% / 0.01485862
31.6 BedouinB
23.8 Kurdish
20.8 Egyptian
10.0 Assyrian
6.0 Turkmen
4.0 Dinka
3.8 German
Target: Syrian:15AJ119
Distance: 1.2340% / 0.01234026
50.2 Assyrian
17.6 Lebanese_Christian
12.6 Egyptian
11.6 Druze
6.4 German
1.6 Kurdish
Target: Syrian:15AJ100
Distance: 1.4047% / 0.01404691
76.8 Kurdish
10.2 Assyrian
6.2 Turkmen
4.4 German
2.0 Druze
0.4 BedouinB
Target: Syrian:14R7
Distance: 0.8167% / 0.00816705
42.4 Kurdish
26.4 BedouinB
22.8 Egyptian
6.0 Somali_Kenya
2.4 Turkmen
Target: Syrian:13AR15
Distance: 1.1063% / 0.01106263
36.0 Kurdish
24.2 BedouinB
20.4 Assyrian
13.8 Egyptian
3.6 Dinka
2.0 German
Target: Syrian:13AH326
Distance: 1.7389% / 0.01738933
42.4 Druze
25.6 Lebanese_Christian
15.0 Assyrian
7.0 Egyptian
6.4 BedouinB
3.6 German
Target: Syrian:13AH252
Distance: 0.7083% / 0.00708339
37.2 Kurdish
26.6 Druze
19.0 BedouinB
10.0 Lebanese_Christian
2.8 German
2.8 Turkmen
1.6 Egyptian
Target: Syrian:12AR16
Distance: 1.5323% / 0.01532340
36.8 BedouinB
22.0 Assyrian
15.8 Kurdish
13.8 Egyptian
6.4 Druze
3.0 Dinka
2.0 Turkmen
0.2 Somali_Kenya
Target: Syrian:12AL16
Distance: 1.2006% / 0.01200636
29.4 Egyptian
21.0 Kurdish
18.0 BedouinB
11.6 Dinka
10.6 Lebanese_Christian
4.4 German
4.0 Druze
1.0 Turkmen
Target: Syrian:12AJ118
Distance: 1.2657% / 0.01265668
39.4 BedouinB
33.6 Assyrian
8.0 Lebanese_Christian
7.4 Egyptian
7.4 Turkmen
3.6 Dinka
0.6 Kurdish
Target: Syrian:12AH252
Distance: 0.9466% / 0.00946648
26.4 Lebanese_Christian
21.2 Kurdish
17.6 Druze
14.2 Assyrian
10.8 Egyptian
5.2 BedouinB
4.6 German
Target: Syrian:11AR16
Distance: 1.3205% / 0.01320524
47.4 Assyrian
32.0 BedouinB
8.8 Egyptian
6.0 Kurdish
4.2 Dinka
1.4 Turkmen
0.2 German
Target: Syrian:11AQ155
Distance: 1.5752% / 0.01575195
49.4 Druze
18.4 Egyptian
14.4 German
8.0 Assyrian
5.4 BedouinB
4.4 Lebanese_Christian
Target: Syrian:11AJ152
Distance: 1.6871% / 0.01687092
35.6 Lebanese_Christian
27.0 Assyrian
15.8 Egyptian
14.6 Druze
7.0 German
Target: Syrian:11AJ100
Distance: 1.4256% / 0.01425630
49.6 Assyrian
29.0 Druze
14.6 Lebanese_Christian
4.2 Kurdish
2.6 Dinka
Target: Syrian:11AH326
Distance: 1.1137% / 0.01113660
33.0 Kurdish
24.2 BedouinB
15.8 Lebanese_Christian
14.4 Egyptian
6.8 Turkmen
2.6 German
2.0 Dinka
1.2 Druze
Target: Syrian:10AR15
Distance: 1.0307% / 0.01030663
23.4 BedouinB
23.2 Kurdish
18.0 Assyrian
18.0 Egyptian
9.2 Druze
4.2 Turkmen
2.6 Dinka
1.4 German
Target: Syrian:10AJ100
Distance: 1.5804% / 0.01580355
38.2 Assyrian
32.6 Egyptian
9.8 BedouinB
9.4 Druze
6.2 Kurdish
2.4 Turkmen
1.4 Dinka
Target: Syrian:10AH252
Distance: 0.6895% / 0.00689482
36.8 Druze
29.2 Assyrian
11.6 Egyptian
9.4 Kurdish
4.4 German
4.2 Turkmen
3.6 BedouinB
0.8 Somali_Kenya
Target: Syrian:1AR18
Distance: 0.8245% / 0.00824466
53.2 Druze
22.8 Assyrian
7.6 Kurdish
5.4 Turkmen
5.2 Egyptian
4.0 Dinka
1.8 Lebanese_Christian
CLEAR OUTPUT
CYCLES - 0.25XADD DIST COL - NOPRINT ZEROES - NOAGGREGATE - YESADD BAR CHART - MODE 1RUN ALL
Syrian:1AR18Syrian:10AH252Syrian:10AJ100Syrian:10A R15Syrian:11AH326Syrian:11AJ100Syrian:11AJ152Syria n:11AQ155Syrian:11AR16Syrian:12AH252Syrian:12AJ118 Syrian:12AL16Syrian:12AR16Syrian:13AH252Syrian:13A H326Syrian:13AR15Syrian:14R7Syrian:15AJ100Syrian:1 5AJ119Syrian:15AR16Syrian:15R7Syrian:16AH326Syrian :16AJ100Syrian:16AJ177Syrian:16AR22Syrian:17AH326S yrian:17AJ119Syrian:17AJ181Syrian:18AJ152Syrian:18 AR15Syrian:19AL16Syrian:19AR15Syrian:2AR16Syrian:2 0AR15Syrian:21AR18Syrian:22AR18Syrian:23AR15Syrian :24AR15Syrian:24AR18Syrian:26AH252Syrian:26AR15Syr ian:28AR15Syrian:29AH252Syrian:3AH326Syrian:3AJ112 Syrian:3AJ116Syrian:3AJ118Syrian:3AJ120Syrian:3AR1 6Syrian:4AJ112Syrian:4AJ120Syrian:5AH252Syrian:5AJ 112Syrian:5AR16Syrian:5AS15Syrian:5B44Syrian:6AH25 2Syrian:6AJ118Syrian:6AR15Syrian:6AR16Syrian:7AR15 Syrian:8AH252Syrian:8AR15Syrian:9AR15Syrian:9AR16S yrian:Aut-11-12-01-01Syrian:Aut-11-12-01-02Syrian:Aut-11-12-01-03Syrian:Aut-11-12-09-01Syrian:Aut-11-12-09-02Syrian:Aut-11-12-09-03Syrian:Ber10AH252Syrian:Ber12AG184Syrian:Ber12AL 16Syrian:Ber13R7Syrian:Ber16AG177Syrian:Ber16AG184 Syrian:Ber17AG181Syrian:Ber17AG57Syrian:Ber1AH252S yrian:Ber1AM54Syrian:Ber3AG163Syrian:Ber4AG112Syri an:Ber5AG112Syrian:Ber5AL10Syrian:Ber5AL16Syrian:B er5R35Syrian:Ber6AG118Syrian:Ber7R59
Trouble
12-21-2020, 05:28 AM
Ok so I was surprised when I saw that some of the Iranians were clustering with Jordanians, so I did some digging. The closest distances are:
Distance to: Iranian:6AM121
0.05696952 Jordanian
Distance to: Iranian:5AM123
0.05674600 Jordanian
Distance to: Iranian:16AM122
0.04918219 Jordanian
Distance to: Iranian:14AM122
0.04381453 Jordanian
Distance to: Iranian:12AM122
0.04390690 Jordanian
Distance to: Iranian:1AM157
0.06877126 Jordanian
I tried to model both the Jordanian average against these samples to find out what gave. As I predicted these particular samples(as Zoro said, most likely Iranian Arabs) likely have substantial Bedouin influence, even more than what Jordanians have as well as a bit of SSA which puts them somewhat close to Jordanians. 1AM157 which happens to be the further of these samples is mainly pushed towards Iranians due to its elevated SSA as opposed to its bedouin %age, which is pretty small.
Target: Jordanian
Distance: 0.5423% / 0.00542332
67.6 Druze
15.6 BedouinB
10.0 Iranian_Lor
5.6 Somali
1.2 Dinka
Target: Iranian:1AM157
Distance: 2.2459% / 0.02245899
59.6 Iranian_Lor
24.8 Assyrian
8.0 Dinka
7.6 BedouinB
Target: Iranian:12AM122
Distance: 1.3600% / 0.01359985
54.6 Iranian_Lor
22.4 BedouinB
18.6 Druze
4.4 Dinka
Target: Iranian:14AM122
Distance: 1.3372% / 0.01337205
55.2 Iranian_Lor
23.6 BedouinB
13.2 Druze
4.0 Assyrian
2.0 Dinka
2.0 Somali
Target: Iranian:16AM122
Distance: 1.7048% / 0.01704843
61.2 Iranian_Lor
29.2 BedouinB
8.6 Assyrian
1.0 Somali
Target: Iranian:5AM123
Distance: 2.0084% / 0.02008354
50.2 Iranian_Lor
23.6 Druze
10.4 Assyrian
10.4 BedouinB
5.4 Dinka
Target: Iranian:6AM121
Distance: 2.5972% / 0.02597223
56.8 Iranian_Lor
23.4 BedouinB
7.6 Assyrian
7.2 Druze
5.0 Dinka
A lot of the "Druze" that the Iranians are getting is probably because of more BedouinA(levant shifted) type ancestry than BedouinB(Arabian) type. Overall, the Iranian Arabs have a very different overall make up to Jordanians. It's just that the two combinations of recent ancestry- majority SW Iranic+a lot of bedouin+some SSA and mainly Levantine+some bedouin+some SSA respectively resulted in similar ancient/neolithic proportions and hence them being overall close on a plot.
Synapsid
06-09-2021, 02:32 PM
Probably should have divided the Iranian ones on ethnicity... a bunch of Baloch and Turkmen. Although it does make sense to have a "national" average so I get it. Nice to see so many Iranian samples at least, I wonder if they did haplogroups on them?
Interesting
Arab speaking Levantines seem to have more West african than Turks and Iranians when it comes their non caucasiod ancestry. While the latter seem to have more devil Gates/NE Asian ancestry as their non caucasiod outliners. I thought Gulf Arabs were the one most affected by Bantu Slave trade
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