Eastern Indonesian Gedmatch results

[Maguzanci]

Im not sure where they are from but Im guessing either Nusa Tenggara Timur or Sulawesi. The results are very different from Western Indonesians who don't have as much Oceanian. They are also less West Eurasian than many Western Indonesians as well.

Btw do you think these two gedmatch kits are from Eastern Indonesia and where (I don't have their AncestryDNA or 23andme)?

1. First individual. I think she is from Sumbawa (based on her lastname) but I'm not sure.

Eurogenes K13

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Asian 64.08
2 Oceanian 23.71
3 South_Asian 8.76
4 Baltic 1.67
5 Sub-Saharan 0.61
6 West_Med 0.55
7 Amerindian 0.51
8 Northeast_African 0.11


Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Malay 26.52
2 Cambodian 29.75
3 Tibeto-Burman_Burmese 32.81
4 Lahu 35.13
5 Vietnamese 37.35
6 Yizu 38.32
7 Miaozu 38.54
8 Tujia 39.25
9 Dai 39.41
10 Naxi 39.78
11 She 40.21
12 Tu 42.56
13 Japanese 44.63
14 Xibo 51.72
15 Hezhen 53.11
16 Uygur 57.83
17 Hazara 62.28
18 Aghan_Hazara 64.18
19 Kirgiz 64.67
20 Kazakh 65.45

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 79% Cambodian + 21% Papuan @ 4.68
2 64.6% Dai + 35.4% NAN_Melanesian @ 4.77
3 65.9% Vietnamese + 34.1% NAN_Melanesian @ 4.87
4 70.9% Cambodian + 29.1% NAN_Melanesian @ 4.96
5 75% Vietnamese + 25% Papuan @ 5.95
6 74% Dai + 26% Papuan @ 6.37
7 81.1% Malay + 18.9% Papuan @ 6.5
8 73.5% Malay + 26.5% NAN_Melanesian @ 6.57
9 67.5% Lahu + 32.5% NAN_Melanesian @ 7.98
10 76.5% Lahu + 23.5% Papuan @ 8.99
11 64.7% She + 35.3% NAN_Melanesian @ 11.33
12 65.8% Miaozu + 34.2% NAN_Melanesian @ 11.78
13 74.3% She + 25.7% Papuan @ 13.09
14 75.3% Miaozu + 24.7% Papuan @ 13.47
15 65.6% Tujia + 34.4% NAN_Melanesian @ 13.55
16 75.2% Tujia + 24.8% Papuan @ 15.41
17 72.1% Tibeto-Burman_Burmese + 27.9% NAN_Melanesian @ 19.11
18 67.7% Yizu + 32.3% NAN_Melanesian @ 19.68
19 80.9% Tibeto-Burman_Burmese + 19.1% Papuan @ 20.48
20 66.9% Naxi + 33.1% NAN_Melanesian @ 20.98


MDLP K23b:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Austronesian 37.07
2 South_East_Asian 26.8
3 Australoid 20.61
4 Melano_Polynesian 6.34
5 South_Indian 5.91
6 Tungus-Altaic 2.74
7 Archaic_African 0.25
8 European_Hunters_Gatherers 0.16
9 East_African 0.12


Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Kambera ( ) 4
2 Manggarai ( ) 8.19
3 Ati ( ) 13.9
4 Mamanawa ( ) 14.27
5 Agta_AG ( ) 15.51
6 Lamaholt ( ) 16.75
7 Lembata ( ) 18.9
8 Malay_Singapore ( ) 19.27
9 Toraja ( ) 20.47
10 Malay_Malasia ( ) 21.02
11 Mlabri ( ) 21.17
12 Batak_Toba ( ) 21.26
13 Chabakano ( ) 21.52
14 Temuan ( ) 21.67
15 Iraya ( ) 21.76
16 Manobo ( ) 21.98
17 Sunda ( ) 22.06
18 Javanese ( ) 22.27
19 Jehai ( ) 22.42
20 Dayak ( ) 22.71

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 54.1% Lembata ( ) + 45.9% Javanese ( ) @ 1.66
2 53.9% Lembata ( ) + 46.1% Sunda ( ) @ 1.7
3 55.6% Lembata ( ) + 44.4% Jagoi ( ) @ 1.72
4 58.6% Lamaholt ( ) + 41.4% Jagoi ( ) @ 1.8
5 52.9% Lembata ( ) + 47.1% Mlabri ( ) @ 1.8
6 93.3% Kambera ( ) + 6.7% Kusunda ( ) @ 1.83
7 79% Manggarai ( ) + 21% Vietnamese_central ( ) @ 1.9
8 55.9% Lamaholt ( ) + 44.1% Mlabri ( ) @ 1.92
9 57.2% Lamaholt ( ) + 42.8% Javanese ( ) @ 1.97
10 79.9% Manggarai ( ) + 20.1% Kinh_Vietnam_KHV ( ) @ 1.97
11 77.5% Manggarai ( ) + 22.5% Tai_Khuen ( ) @ 2.02
12 78.6% Manggarai ( ) + 21.4% Vietnamese ( ) @ 2.03
13 80.4% Manggarai ( ) + 19.6% Chinese_Dai ( ) @ 2.06
14 79.6% Manggarai ( ) + 20.4% Vietnamese_south ( ) @ 2.06
15 77.5% Manggarai ( ) + 22.5% Yong ( ) @ 2.08
16 79.5% Manggarai ( ) + 20.5% Vietnamese_north ( ) @ 2.09
17 80.4% Manggarai ( ) + 19.6% Dai ( ) @ 2.09
18 59.9% Sunda ( ) + 40.1% Alorese ( ) @ 2.1
19 77.7% Manggarai ( ) + 22.3% Tai_Lue ( ) @ 2.18
20 56.9% Lamaholt ( ) + 43.1% Sunda ( ) @ 2.21


2. Second individual. Not sure about this one. Either from somewhere in Nusa Tenggara Timur or Sulawesi imo (I have seen one Sulawesi gedmatch kit I believe that score almost 17% Oceanian but I cannot find that kit anymore).

Eurogenes K13

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Asian 65.22
2 Oceanian 18.25
3 South_Asian 12.27
4 Baltic 2.39
5 Northeast_African 0.8
6 Siberian 0.5
7 East_Med 0.47
8 West_Med 0.11


Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Malay 19.18
2 Cambodian 22.73
3 Tibeto-Burman_Burmese 26.23
4 Lahu 29.55
5 Vietnamese 31.86
6 Yizu 33.55
7 Miaozu 33.55
8 Tujia 34.35
9 Dai 34.35
10 Naxi 35.07
11 She 35.23
12 Tu 38.4
13 Japanese 40.67
14 Xibo 48.43
15 Hezhen 49.94
16 Uygur 55.18
17 Hazara 59.77
18 Aghan_Hazara 61.8
19 Kirgiz 62.55
20 Kazakh 63.41

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 83.8% Cambodian + 16.2% Papuan @ 1.37
2 77.5% Cambodian + 22.5% NAN_Melanesian @ 1.52
3 86.1% Malay + 13.9% Papuan @ 2.89
4 80.5% Malay + 19.5% NAN_Melanesian @ 2.93
5 71.6% Vietnamese + 28.4% NAN_Melanesian @ 8.16
6 79.3% Vietnamese + 20.7% Papuan @ 9.27
7 70.1% Dai + 29.9% NAN_Melanesian @ 9.4
8 73.5% Lahu + 26.5% NAN_Melanesian @ 9.77
9 78.2% Dai + 21.8% Papuan @ 10.79
10 80.9% Lahu + 19.1% Papuan @ 10.82
11 70.3% She + 29.7% NAN_Melanesian @ 13.81
12 71.6% Miaozu + 28.4% NAN_Melanesian @ 14
13 78.6% She + 21.4% Papuan @ 15.45
14 79.6% Miaozu + 20.4% Papuan @ 15.55
15 71.4% Tujia + 28.6% NAN_Melanesian @ 15.57
16 79.6% Tujia + 20.4% Papuan @ 17.26
17 79.6% Tibeto-Burman_Burmese + 20.4% NAN_Melanesian @ 17.48
18 91.3% Malay + 8.7% La_Brana-1 @ 17.81
19 91.9% Malay + 8.1% Italian_Jewish @ 17.85
20 91.8% Malay + 8.2% Central_Greek @ 17.85


MDLP K23b

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Austronesian 39.78
2 South_East_Asian 26.98
3 Australoid 16.14
4 South_Indian 7.1
5 Melano_Polynesian 6.38
6 North_African 1.16
7 European_Hunters_Gatherers 0.68
8 Tungus-Altaic 0.61
9 European_Early_Farmers 0.6
10 South_Central_Asian 0.38
11 Archaic_Human 0.17

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Kambera ( ) 6.28
2 Ati ( ) 11.15
3 Agta_AG ( ) 11.69
4 Manggarai ( ) 12.24
5 Mamanawa ( ) 12.84
6 Malay_Singapore ( ) 15.11
7 Toraja ( ) 16.58
8 Batak_Toba ( ) 16.74
9 Malay_Malasia ( ) 16.94
10 Mlabri ( ) 17.66
11 Temuan ( ) 17.84
12 Chabakano ( ) 17.88
13 Sunda ( ) 17.88
14 Iraya ( ) 17.97
15 Manobo ( ) 18.05
16 Batak_Karo ( ) 18.2
17 Javanese ( ) 18.38
18 Dayak ( ) 18.47
19 Malay ( ) 18.7
20 Jagoi ( ) 19.7

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 74.9% Kambera ( ) + 25.1% Malay_Malasia ( ) @ 2.87
2 54.2% Sunda ( ) + 45.8% Lamaholt ( ) @ 2.89
3 59.8% Manggarai ( ) + 40.2% Sunda ( ) @ 2.99
4 73% Kambera ( ) + 27% Malay_Singapore ( ) @ 3.06
5 56.9% Sunda ( ) + 43.1% Lembata ( ) @ 3.09
6 76.3% Kambera ( ) + 23.7% Temuan ( ) @ 3.1
7 78.5% Kambera ( ) + 21.5% Jehai ( ) @ 3.27
8 77.1% Kambera ( ) + 22.9% Batak_Karo ( ) @ 3.34
9 62.3% Manggarai ( ) + 37.7% Jagoi ( ) @ 3.37
10 80.3% Kambera ( ) + 19.7% Thai ( ) @ 3.38
11 60.6% Manggarai ( ) + 39.4% Javanese ( ) @ 3.38
12 80.7% Kambera ( ) + 19.3% Cambodian ( ) @ 3.52
13 51.8% Jagoi ( ) + 48.2% Lamaholt ( ) @ 3.53
14 53.6% Javanese ( ) + 46.4% Lamaholt ( ) @ 3.61
15 81.5% Kambera ( ) + 18.5% Khmer_Cambodian ( ) @ 3.67
16 68% Sunda ( ) + 32% Alorese ( ) @ 3.73
17 77.6% Kambera ( ) + 22.4% Sunda ( ) @ 3.76
18 60.8% Manggarai ( ) + 39.2% Dayak ( ) @ 3.79
19 59.7% Manggarai ( ) + 40.3% Mlabri ( ) @ 3.85
20 69% Kambera ( ) + 31% Agta_AG ( ) @ 3.88


Opinions?

[Leto]

Basically Southeast Asian + Papuan. Many of the names in the oracles are not familiar to me at all.

[Maguzanci]

Basically Southeast Asian + Papuan. Many of the names in the oracles are not familiar to me at all.

Yep. Western Indonesians from Sumatra, Java, Bali score very low Papuan compared to them.

Those names are ethnic groups or tribes from Malaysia, Indonesia and Philippines. The Manggarai for example are an ethnic group from Flores, while Kambera are an ethnic group from Sumba and Lembata and Lamaholot are ethnic groups from these other islands in the area. All of them come from the region of Nusa Tenggara Timur in Eastern Indonesia which is close to Timor, Australia and Melanesia.

[KuakoVoice]

Basically Southeast Asian + Papuan. Many of the names in the oracles are not familiar to me at all.

Mangarai,Kambera,Lamaholot are all names of certain tribes from Eastern Indonesia like in Flores Island or Sumba.Eastern Indonesia is criminally understudied but Alfred Wallace was a old European Scientist who studied the whole region and wrote multiple books about it.Not just the people are an admixture of Southeast Asian (Austronesian)+Papuan,but the fauna and flora and the plate tectonics as well.Lots of endemic and unique species are in this region such as Komodo Dragons,Birds of Paradise,Wallabies,Frigate Birds,and other Marsupials.

[Lucas]

Im not sure where they are from but Im guessing either Nusa Tenggara Timur or Sulawesi. The results are very different from Western Indonesians who don't have as much Oceanian. They are also less West Eurasian than many Western Indonesians as well.

Btw do you think these two gedmatch kits are from Eastern Indonesia and where (I don't have their AncestryDNA or 23andme)?


Opinions?

Check them in AdmixtureStudio - LM Genetics K15. I have there added Indoesian references (academic) like Lemba, Sumba or Sulawesi too. Nowhere you find it.

[Kaazi]

Im not sure where they are from but Im guessing either Nusa Tenggara Timur or Sulawesi. The results are very different from Western Indonesians who don't have as much Oceanian. They are also less West Eurasian than many Western Indonesians as well.

Opinions?

Throw the harappaworld scores as well.

[KuakoVoice]

Im not sure where they are from but Im guessing either Nusa Tenggara Timur or Sulawesi. The results are very different from Western Indonesians who don't have as much Oceanian. They are also less West Eurasian than many Western Indonesians as well.

Btw do you think these two gedmatch kits are from Eastern Indonesia and where (I don't have their AncestryDNA or 23andme)?

1. First individual. I think she is from Sumbawa (based on her lastname) but I'm not sure.

Eurogenes K13

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Asian 64.08
2 Oceanian 23.71
3 South_Asian 8.76
4 Baltic 1.67
5 Sub-Saharan 0.61
6 West_Med 0.55
7 Amerindian 0.51
8 Northeast_African 0.11


Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Malay 26.52
2 Cambodian 29.75
3 Tibeto-Burman_Burmese 32.81
4 Lahu 35.13
5 Vietnamese 37.35
6 Yizu 38.32
7 Miaozu 38.54
8 Tujia 39.25
9 Dai 39.41
10 Naxi 39.78
11 She 40.21
12 Tu 42.56
13 Japanese 44.63
14 Xibo 51.72
15 Hezhen 53.11
16 Uygur 57.83
17 Hazara 62.28
18 Aghan_Hazara 64.18
19 Kirgiz 64.67
20 Kazakh 65.45

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 79% Cambodian + 21% Papuan @ 4.68
2 64.6% Dai + 35.4% NAN_Melanesian @ 4.77
3 65.9% Vietnamese + 34.1% NAN_Melanesian @ 4.87
4 70.9% Cambodian + 29.1% NAN_Melanesian @ 4.96
5 75% Vietnamese + 25% Papuan @ 5.95
6 74% Dai + 26% Papuan @ 6.37
7 81.1% Malay + 18.9% Papuan @ 6.5
8 73.5% Malay + 26.5% NAN_Melanesian @ 6.57
9 67.5% Lahu + 32.5% NAN_Melanesian @ 7.98
10 76.5% Lahu + 23.5% Papuan @ 8.99
11 64.7% She + 35.3% NAN_Melanesian @ 11.33
12 65.8% Miaozu + 34.2% NAN_Melanesian @ 11.78
13 74.3% She + 25.7% Papuan @ 13.09
14 75.3% Miaozu + 24.7% Papuan @ 13.47
15 65.6% Tujia + 34.4% NAN_Melanesian @ 13.55
16 75.2% Tujia + 24.8% Papuan @ 15.41
17 72.1% Tibeto-Burman_Burmese + 27.9% NAN_Melanesian @ 19.11
18 67.7% Yizu + 32.3% NAN_Melanesian @ 19.68
19 80.9% Tibeto-Burman_Burmese + 19.1% Papuan @ 20.48
20 66.9% Naxi + 33.1% NAN_Melanesian @ 20.98


MDLP K23b:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Austronesian 37.07
2 South_East_Asian 26.8
3 Australoid 20.61
4 Melano_Polynesian 6.34
5 South_Indian 5.91
6 Tungus-Altaic 2.74
7 Archaic_African 0.25
8 European_Hunters_Gatherers 0.16
9 East_African 0.12


Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Kambera ( ) 4
2 Manggarai ( ) 8.19
3 Ati ( ) 13.9
4 Mamanawa ( ) 14.27
5 Agta_AG ( ) 15.51
6 Lamaholt ( ) 16.75
7 Lembata ( ) 18.9
8 Malay_Singapore ( ) 19.27
9 Toraja ( ) 20.47
10 Malay_Malasia ( ) 21.02
11 Mlabri ( ) 21.17
12 Batak_Toba ( ) 21.26
13 Chabakano ( ) 21.52
14 Temuan ( ) 21.67
15 Iraya ( ) 21.76
16 Manobo ( ) 21.98
17 Sunda ( ) 22.06
18 Javanese ( ) 22.27
19 Jehai ( ) 22.42
20 Dayak ( ) 22.71

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 54.1% Lembata ( ) + 45.9% Javanese ( ) @ 1.66
2 53.9% Lembata ( ) + 46.1% Sunda ( ) @ 1.7
3 55.6% Lembata ( ) + 44.4% Jagoi ( ) @ 1.72
4 58.6% Lamaholt ( ) + 41.4% Jagoi ( ) @ 1.8
5 52.9% Lembata ( ) + 47.1% Mlabri ( ) @ 1.8
6 93.3% Kambera ( ) + 6.7% Kusunda ( ) @ 1.83
7 79% Manggarai ( ) + 21% Vietnamese_central ( ) @ 1.9
8 55.9% Lamaholt ( ) + 44.1% Mlabri ( ) @ 1.92
9 57.2% Lamaholt ( ) + 42.8% Javanese ( ) @ 1.97
10 79.9% Manggarai ( ) + 20.1% Kinh_Vietnam_KHV ( ) @ 1.97
11 77.5% Manggarai ( ) + 22.5% Tai_Khuen ( ) @ 2.02
12 78.6% Manggarai ( ) + 21.4% Vietnamese ( ) @ 2.03
13 80.4% Manggarai ( ) + 19.6% Chinese_Dai ( ) @ 2.06
14 79.6% Manggarai ( ) + 20.4% Vietnamese_south ( ) @ 2.06
15 77.5% Manggarai ( ) + 22.5% Yong ( ) @ 2.08
16 79.5% Manggarai ( ) + 20.5% Vietnamese_north ( ) @ 2.09
17 80.4% Manggarai ( ) + 19.6% Dai ( ) @ 2.09
18 59.9% Sunda ( ) + 40.1% Alorese ( ) @ 2.1
19 77.7% Manggarai ( ) + 22.3% Tai_Lue ( ) @ 2.18
20 56.9% Lamaholt ( ) + 43.1% Sunda ( ) @ 2.21


2. Second individual. Not sure about this one. Either from somewhere in Nusa Tenggara Timur or Sulawesi imo (I have seen one Sulawesi gedmatch kit I believe that score almost 17% Oceanian but I cannot find that kit anymore).

Eurogenes K13

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Asian 65.22
2 Oceanian 18.25
3 South_Asian 12.27
4 Baltic 2.39
5 Northeast_African 0.8
6 Siberian 0.5
7 East_Med 0.47
8 West_Med 0.11


Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Malay 19.18
2 Cambodian 22.73
3 Tibeto-Burman_Burmese 26.23
4 Lahu 29.55
5 Vietnamese 31.86
6 Yizu 33.55
7 Miaozu 33.55
8 Tujia 34.35
9 Dai 34.35
10 Naxi 35.07
11 She 35.23
12 Tu 38.4
13 Japanese 40.67
14 Xibo 48.43
15 Hezhen 49.94
16 Uygur 55.18
17 Hazara 59.77
18 Aghan_Hazara 61.8
19 Kirgiz 62.55
20 Kazakh 63.41

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 83.8% Cambodian + 16.2% Papuan @ 1.37
2 77.5% Cambodian + 22.5% NAN_Melanesian @ 1.52
3 86.1% Malay + 13.9% Papuan @ 2.89
4 80.5% Malay + 19.5% NAN_Melanesian @ 2.93
5 71.6% Vietnamese + 28.4% NAN_Melanesian @ 8.16
6 79.3% Vietnamese + 20.7% Papuan @ 9.27
7 70.1% Dai + 29.9% NAN_Melanesian @ 9.4
8 73.5% Lahu + 26.5% NAN_Melanesian @ 9.77
9 78.2% Dai + 21.8% Papuan @ 10.79
10 80.9% Lahu + 19.1% Papuan @ 10.82
11 70.3% She + 29.7% NAN_Melanesian @ 13.81
12 71.6% Miaozu + 28.4% NAN_Melanesian @ 14
13 78.6% She + 21.4% Papuan @ 15.45
14 79.6% Miaozu + 20.4% Papuan @ 15.55
15 71.4% Tujia + 28.6% NAN_Melanesian @ 15.57
16 79.6% Tujia + 20.4% Papuan @ 17.26
17 79.6% Tibeto-Burman_Burmese + 20.4% NAN_Melanesian @ 17.48
18 91.3% Malay + 8.7% La_Brana-1 @ 17.81
19 91.9% Malay + 8.1% Italian_Jewish @ 17.85
20 91.8% Malay + 8.2% Central_Greek @ 17.85


MDLP K23b

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Austronesian 39.78
2 South_East_Asian 26.98
3 Australoid 16.14
4 South_Indian 7.1
5 Melano_Polynesian 6.38
6 North_African 1.16
7 European_Hunters_Gatherers 0.68
8 Tungus-Altaic 0.61
9 European_Early_Farmers 0.6
10 South_Central_Asian 0.38
11 Archaic_Human 0.17

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Kambera ( ) 6.28
2 Ati ( ) 11.15
3 Agta_AG ( ) 11.69
4 Manggarai ( ) 12.24
5 Mamanawa ( ) 12.84
6 Malay_Singapore ( ) 15.11
7 Toraja ( ) 16.58
8 Batak_Toba ( ) 16.74
9 Malay_Malasia ( ) 16.94
10 Mlabri ( ) 17.66
11 Temuan ( ) 17.84
12 Chabakano ( ) 17.88
13 Sunda ( ) 17.88
14 Iraya ( ) 17.97
15 Manobo ( ) 18.05
16 Batak_Karo ( ) 18.2
17 Javanese ( ) 18.38
18 Dayak ( ) 18.47
19 Malay ( ) 18.7
20 Jagoi ( ) 19.7

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 74.9% Kambera ( ) + 25.1% Malay_Malasia ( ) @ 2.87
2 54.2% Sunda ( ) + 45.8% Lamaholt ( ) @ 2.89
3 59.8% Manggarai ( ) + 40.2% Sunda ( ) @ 2.99
4 73% Kambera ( ) + 27% Malay_Singapore ( ) @ 3.06
5 56.9% Sunda ( ) + 43.1% Lembata ( ) @ 3.09
6 76.3% Kambera ( ) + 23.7% Temuan ( ) @ 3.1
7 78.5% Kambera ( ) + 21.5% Jehai ( ) @ 3.27
8 77.1% Kambera ( ) + 22.9% Batak_Karo ( ) @ 3.34
9 62.3% Manggarai ( ) + 37.7% Jagoi ( ) @ 3.37
10 80.3% Kambera ( ) + 19.7% Thai ( ) @ 3.38
11 60.6% Manggarai ( ) + 39.4% Javanese ( ) @ 3.38
12 80.7% Kambera ( ) + 19.3% Cambodian ( ) @ 3.52
13 51.8% Jagoi ( ) + 48.2% Lamaholt ( ) @ 3.53
14 53.6% Javanese ( ) + 46.4% Lamaholt ( ) @ 3.61
15 81.5% Kambera ( ) + 18.5% Khmer_Cambodian ( ) @ 3.67
16 68% Sunda ( ) + 32% Alorese ( ) @ 3.73
17 77.6% Kambera ( ) + 22.4% Sunda ( ) @ 3.76
18 60.8% Manggarai ( ) + 39.2% Dayak ( ) @ 3.79
19 59.7% Manggarai ( ) + 40.3% Mlabri ( ) @ 3.85
20 69% Kambera ( ) + 31% Agta_AG ( ) @ 3.88


Opinions?

Here is a picture of my Ambonese Moluccan mothers GEDmatch for Eurogenes and MDLP

https://ibb.co/58qFqKh
https://ibb.co/bHdt39p

And here is a picture of the same calculators results for my half African American cousins also Ambonese mom.Her family is from a different island though but Ambonese is sort of the catch all term for us Central Moluccans.

https://ibb.co/4dB5xv4
https://ibb.co/Ct4YH23

[Maguzanci]

Here is a picture of my Ambonese Moluccan mothers GEDmatch for Eurogenes and MDLP

https://ibb.co/58qFqKh
https://ibb.co/bHdt39p

And here is a picture of the same calculators results for my half African American cousins also Ambonese mom.Her family is from a different island though but Ambonese is sort of the catch all term for us Central Moluccans.

https://ibb.co/4dB5xv4
https://ibb.co/Ct4YH23

Very interesting, based on the Eurogenes K13, your mom seem to be at least 3% Caucasoid while his mom from another island got at least 2.6% Caucasoid. There might be more Caucasoid admixture hiding in the South Asian component though. Also his mom seem to score at least 1% African while your mom has none.

Where do you think the West Eurasian/Caucasoid is from for your mom and his mom? Dutch, Portuguese, Arabs or Indians?

You should also ask your mom and half Afram half Moluccan cousin's mom to do Global 25 by Davidski. It is even much better than Gedmatch. But it cost around $12 dollars: https://eurogenes.blogspot.com/2017/10/genetic-ancestry-online-store-to-be.html


If you want to do it, you have to send your request and autosomal genotype data (from AncestryDNA, FTDNA, LivingDNA, MyHeritage or 23andMe) to eurogenesblog at gmail dot com and money via PayPal to the same e-mail.

[Maguzanci]

Throw the harappaworld scores as well.

Sure. Based on the Eurogenes K13, the first and second individuals score around 2-3% West Eurasian (the second individual might have more as she has a lot of South Asian admixture for someone from Eastern Indonesia)

1. First woman. I think she is from Sumbawa based on her lastname which seems very common there.

HarappaWorld: She has very high Oceanian and some Indian.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 SE-Asian 49.89
2 Papuan 23.9
3 NE-Asian 18.12
4 S-Indian 6.14
5 Beringian 1.06
6 American 0.27
7 E-African 0.21
8 SW-Asian 0.19
9 Pygmy 0.15
10 Baloch 0.06

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 tongan (xing) 25.87
2 samoan (xing) 26.5
3 khmer-cambodian (xing) 29.84
4 thai (xing) 29.89
5 lahu (hgdp) 33.2
6 kinh (1000genomes) 33.69
7 vietnamese (xing) 33.87
8 singapore-malay (sgvp) 33.93
9 cambodian (hgdp) 34.18
10 dai-chinese (1000genomes) 35.37
11 dai (hgdp) 35.74
12 khasi (chaubey) 40.21
13 burmanese (chaubey) 42.25
14 garo (chaubey) 45.01
15 iban (xing) 46.92
16 miao (hgdp) 50.77
17 singapore-chinese (sgvp) 52.55
18 onge (reich) 52.68
19 great-andamanese (reich) 53.95
20 chinese (xing) 54.37

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 66.9% dai (hgdp) + 33.1% aus (reich) @ 3.14
2 67.2% dai-chinese (1000genomes) + 32.8% aus (reich) @ 4.22
3 63.8% tongan (xing) + 36.2% garo (chaubey) @ 4.66
4 62.3% tongan (xing) + 37.7% burmanese (chaubey) @ 5.13
5 71.9% tongan (xing) + 28.1% nepalese-b (xing) @ 5.37
6 76.3% tongan (xing) + 23.7% nysha (reich) @ 5.49
7 76.4% tongan (xing) + 23.6% aonaga (reich) @ 5.7
8 75.8% tongan (xing) + 24.2% tibet (simonson) @ 5.76
9 76% tongan (xing) + 24% naga (metspalu) @ 5.77
10 72.6% tongan (xing) + 27.4% naxi (hgdp) @ 5.83
11 73.8% tongan (xing) + 26.2% tu (hgdp) @ 5.86
12 72.4% tongan (xing) + 27.6% yi (hgdp) @ 5.94
13 77.8% khmer-cambodian (xing) + 22.2% papuan (hgdp) @ 6.47
14 70.8% khmer-cambodian (xing) + 29.2% melanesian (hgdp) @ 6.55
15 74.3% tongan (xing) + 25.7% han-nchina (hgdp) @ 6.55
16 73.9% tongan (xing) + 26.1% japanese (hgdp) @ 6.7
17 76% samoan (xing) + 24% nysha (reich) @ 6.93
18 71.6% samoan (xing) + 28.4% nepalese-b (xing) @ 6.93
19 73.2% tongan (xing) + 26.8% chinese-beijing (1000genomes) @ 6.99
20 67% dai-chinese (1000genomes) + 33% melanesian (hgdp) @ 7.01


Eurogenes K9b: looks like she is close to 5% West Eurasian. This calc has no South Asian which is good because it shows the hidden West Eurasian affinity that would be hidden in other calcs. The West Eurasian score is now shown in the Southwest Asian component.

Population
Southwest_Asian 3.67 Pct
Native_American 0.25 Pct
Northeast_Asian 14.14 Pct
Mediterranean -
North_European 1.12 Pct
Southeast_Asian 56.37 Pct
Oceanian 23.43 Pct
South_African -
Sub-Saharan_African 1.01 Pct

2. Second individual. This girl seems to either be from Nusa Tenggara Timur (not sure which island, there are so many of them) or Sulawesi.

HarappaWorld: Interestingly, she seems to have high Oceanian and decent amount of Indian at the same time.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 SE-Asian 58.63
2 Papuan 17.31
3 NE-Asian 8.9
4 S-Indian 8.46
5 Siberian 4.02
6 NE-Euro 0.79
7 SW-Asian 0.66
8 Caucasian 0.47
9 E-African 0.46
10 Mediterranean 0.3

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 thai (xing) 19.56
2 samoan (xing) 19.79
3 singapore-malay (sgvp) 20.63
4 khmer-cambodian (xing) 21.06
5 cambodian (hgdp) 21.78
6 tongan (xing) 22.97
7 dai (hgdp) 30.52
8 dai-chinese (1000genomes) 31.09
9 kinh (1000genomes) 32.09
10 lahu (hgdp) 33.57
11 iban (xing) 33.59
12 vietnamese (xing) 34.21
13 khasi (chaubey) 41.59
14 burmanese (chaubey) 47.54
15 garo (chaubey) 50.54
16 onge (reich) 54.17
17 great-andamanese (reich) 55.13
18 miao (hgdp) 57.39
19 juang (chaubey) 58.84
20 bonda (chaubey) 59.01

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 83.8% cambodian (hgdp) + 16.2% papuan (hgdp) @ 2.07
2 78.7% cambodian (hgdp) + 21.3% melanesian (hgdp) @ 2.53
3 79.2% cambodian (hgdp) + 20.8% aus (reich) @ 3.36
4 80.2% singapore-malay (sgvp) + 19.8% aus (reich) @ 4.03
5 68.1% samoan (xing) + 31.9% khasi (chaubey) @ 4.09
6 84.8% singapore-malay (sgvp) + 15.2% papuan (hgdp) @ 4.57
7 80% singapore-malay (sgvp) + 20% melanesian (hgdp) @ 5.06
8 54.3% thai (xing) + 45.7% tongan (xing) @ 5.64
9 72.6% samoan (xing) + 27.4% garo (chaubey) @ 5.75
10 71.4% samoan (xing) + 28.6% burmanese (chaubey) @ 5.81
11 52.4% khmer-cambodian (xing) + 47.6% tongan (xing) @ 6.14
12 81.2% thai (xing) + 18.8% melanesian (hgdp) @ 6.54
13 80.1% khmer-cambodian (xing) + 19.9% melanesian (hgdp) @ 7
14 79.7% samoan (xing) + 20.3% nepalese-b (xing) @ 7.47
15 86.2% thai (xing) + 13.8% papuan (hgdp) @ 7.78
16 50.4% thai (xing) + 49.6% samoan (xing) @ 8.1
17 85.2% khmer-cambodian (xing) + 14.8% papuan (hgdp) @ 8.25
18 65.6% tongan (xing) + 34.4% khasi (chaubey) @ 8.43
19 51.9% samoan (xing) + 48.1% khmer-cambodian (xing) @ 8.52
20 79.5% samoan (xing) + 20.5% nepalese-c (xing) @ 9.25


Eurogenes K9b: once again this calc lack the Indian component and it seems to show the additional West Eurasian ancestry (which is captured in the Southwest Asian category), that would be hidden in other calculators due to the South Asian components. She seems to be almost 7% West Eurasian in total if the calc is accurate.

Population
Southwest_Asian 3.42 Pct
Native_American 0.1 Pct
Northeast_Asian 10.18 Pct
Mediterranean -
North_European 3.46 Pct
Southeast_Asian 63.73 Pct
Oceanian 17.84 Pct
South_African -
Sub-Saharan_African 1.27 Pct

[KuakoVoice]

Sure. Based on the Eurogenes K13, the first and second individuals score around 2-3% West Eurasian (the second individual might have more as she has a lot of South Asian admixture for someone from Eastern Indonesia)

1. First woman. I think she is from Sumbawa based on her lastname which seems very common there.

HarappaWorld: She has very high Oceanian and some Indian.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 SE-Asian 49.89
2 Papuan 23.9
3 NE-Asian 18.12
4 S-Indian 6.14
5 Beringian 1.06
6 American 0.27
7 E-African 0.21
8 SW-Asian 0.19
9 Pygmy 0.15
10 Baloch 0.06

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 tongan (xing) 25.87
2 samoan (xing) 26.5
3 khmer-cambodian (xing) 29.84
4 thai (xing) 29.89
5 lahu (hgdp) 33.2
6 kinh (1000genomes) 33.69
7 vietnamese (xing) 33.87
8 singapore-malay (sgvp) 33.93
9 cambodian (hgdp) 34.18
10 dai-chinese (1000genomes) 35.37
11 dai (hgdp) 35.74
12 khasi (chaubey) 40.21
13 burmanese (chaubey) 42.25
14 garo (chaubey) 45.01
15 iban (xing) 46.92
16 miao (hgdp) 50.77
17 singapore-chinese (sgvp) 52.55
18 onge (reich) 52.68
19 great-andamanese (reich) 53.95
20 chinese (xing) 54.37

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 66.9% dai (hgdp) + 33.1% aus (reich) @ 3.14
2 67.2% dai-chinese (1000genomes) + 32.8% aus (reich) @ 4.22
3 63.8% tongan (xing) + 36.2% garo (chaubey) @ 4.66
4 62.3% tongan (xing) + 37.7% burmanese (chaubey) @ 5.13
5 71.9% tongan (xing) + 28.1% nepalese-b (xing) @ 5.37
6 76.3% tongan (xing) + 23.7% nysha (reich) @ 5.49
7 76.4% tongan (xing) + 23.6% aonaga (reich) @ 5.7
8 75.8% tongan (xing) + 24.2% tibet (simonson) @ 5.76
9 76% tongan (xing) + 24% naga (metspalu) @ 5.77
10 72.6% tongan (xing) + 27.4% naxi (hgdp) @ 5.83
11 73.8% tongan (xing) + 26.2% tu (hgdp) @ 5.86
12 72.4% tongan (xing) + 27.6% yi (hgdp) @ 5.94
13 77.8% khmer-cambodian (xing) + 22.2% papuan (hgdp) @ 6.47
14 70.8% khmer-cambodian (xing) + 29.2% melanesian (hgdp) @ 6.55
15 74.3% tongan (xing) + 25.7% han-nchina (hgdp) @ 6.55
16 73.9% tongan (xing) + 26.1% japanese (hgdp) @ 6.7
17 76% samoan (xing) + 24% nysha (reich) @ 6.93
18 71.6% samoan (xing) + 28.4% nepalese-b (xing) @ 6.93
19 73.2% tongan (xing) + 26.8% chinese-beijing (1000genomes) @ 6.99
20 67% dai-chinese (1000genomes) + 33% melanesian (hgdp) @ 7.01


Eurogenes K9b: looks like she is close to 5% West Eurasian. This calc has no South Asian which is good because it shows the hidden West Eurasian affinity that would be hidden in other calcs. The West Eurasian score is now shown in the Southwest Asian component.

Population
Southwest_Asian 3.67 Pct
Native_American 0.25 Pct
Northeast_Asian 14.14 Pct
Mediterranean -
North_European 1.12 Pct
Southeast_Asian 56.37 Pct
Oceanian 23.43 Pct
South_African -
Sub-Saharan_African 1.01 Pct

2. Second individual. This girl seems to either be from Nusa Tenggara Timur (not sure which island, there are so many of them) or Sulawesi.

HarappaWorld: Interestingly, she seems to have high Oceanian and decent amount of Indian at the same time.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 SE-Asian 58.63
2 Papuan 17.31
3 NE-Asian 8.9
4 S-Indian 8.46
5 Siberian 4.02
6 NE-Euro 0.79
7 SW-Asian 0.66
8 Caucasian 0.47
9 E-African 0.46
10 Mediterranean 0.3

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 thai (xing) 19.56
2 samoan (xing) 19.79
3 singapore-malay (sgvp) 20.63
4 khmer-cambodian (xing) 21.06
5 cambodian (hgdp) 21.78
6 tongan (xing) 22.97
7 dai (hgdp) 30.52
8 dai-chinese (1000genomes) 31.09
9 kinh (1000genomes) 32.09
10 lahu (hgdp) 33.57
11 iban (xing) 33.59
12 vietnamese (xing) 34.21
13 khasi (chaubey) 41.59
14 burmanese (chaubey) 47.54
15 garo (chaubey) 50.54
16 onge (reich) 54.17
17 great-andamanese (reich) 55.13
18 miao (hgdp) 57.39
19 juang (chaubey) 58.84
20 bonda (chaubey) 59.01

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 83.8% cambodian (hgdp) + 16.2% papuan (hgdp) @ 2.07
2 78.7% cambodian (hgdp) + 21.3% melanesian (hgdp) @ 2.53
3 79.2% cambodian (hgdp) + 20.8% aus (reich) @ 3.36
4 80.2% singapore-malay (sgvp) + 19.8% aus (reich) @ 4.03
5 68.1% samoan (xing) + 31.9% khasi (chaubey) @ 4.09
6 84.8% singapore-malay (sgvp) + 15.2% papuan (hgdp) @ 4.57
7 80% singapore-malay (sgvp) + 20% melanesian (hgdp) @ 5.06
8 54.3% thai (xing) + 45.7% tongan (xing) @ 5.64
9 72.6% samoan (xing) + 27.4% garo (chaubey) @ 5.75
10 71.4% samoan (xing) + 28.6% burmanese (chaubey) @ 5.81
11 52.4% khmer-cambodian (xing) + 47.6% tongan (xing) @ 6.14
12 81.2% thai (xing) + 18.8% melanesian (hgdp) @ 6.54
13 80.1% khmer-cambodian (xing) + 19.9% melanesian (hgdp) @ 7
14 79.7% samoan (xing) + 20.3% nepalese-b (xing) @ 7.47
15 86.2% thai (xing) + 13.8% papuan (hgdp) @ 7.78
16 50.4% thai (xing) + 49.6% samoan (xing) @ 8.1
17 85.2% khmer-cambodian (xing) + 14.8% papuan (hgdp) @ 8.25
18 65.6% tongan (xing) + 34.4% khasi (chaubey) @ 8.43
19 51.9% samoan (xing) + 48.1% khmer-cambodian (xing) @ 8.52
20 79.5% samoan (xing) + 20.5% nepalese-c (xing) @ 9.25


Eurogenes K9b: once again this calc lack the Indian component and it seems to show the additional West Eurasian ancestry (which is captured in the Southwest Asian category), that would be hidden in other calculators due to the South Asian components. She seems to be almost 7% West Eurasian in total if the calc is accurate.

Population
Southwest_Asian 3.42 Pct
Native_American 0.1 Pct
Northeast_Asian 10.18 Pct
Mediterranean -
North_European 3.46 Pct
Southeast_Asian 63.73 Pct
Oceanian 17.84 Pct
South_African -
Sub-Saharan_African 1.27 Pct

Food for thought,the Moluccans who were the actual Spice trading Kingdoms who had the most contact with the Arab and Indian and Chinese traders was the North Moluccans from Ternate and Tidore.For the most part Southern,Central Maluku and East Nusa Tengarra was more removed from the Outside world. In fact our area is the only part of Southeast Asia to lack Buddhist,Confucian,and Hindu "Asian" influences in our cultures.We went from typical Indigineous Animists to Islam and Christianity.Same for other Oceanians to Christianity.Its one of the biggest differences I can think of between Oceanians and most other Southeast Asians,is the lack of Buddhist,Hindu,and Confucian cultural values and influences.

Central Maluku like Ambon I personally believe my mother and my cousins mother are showing European admixture rather than Arab or Indian,and I think our South Asian is really just an unidentified as of now type of Australoid unique to Wallacea.Central Moluccans almost always have either Christian or Jewish Biblical names with Indigineous Oceanian last names such as "Latu".We also were some of the first Christian converts outside of West Eurasia and Europe.

[Kaazi]

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 SE-Asian 49.89
2 Papuan 23.9
3 NE-Asian 18.12
4 S-Indian 6.14
5 Beringian 1.06
6 American 0.27
7 E-African 0.21
8 SW-Asian 0.19
9 Pygmy 0.15
10 Baloch 0.06

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 tongan (xing) 25.87
2 samoan (xing) 26.5
3 khmer-cambodian (xing) 29.84
4 thai (xing) 29.89
5 lahu (hgdp) 33.2
6 kinh (1000genomes) 33.69
7 vietnamese (xing) 33.87
8 singapore-malay (sgvp) 33.93
9 cambodian (hgdp) 34.18
10 dai-chinese (1000genomes) 35.37
11 dai (hgdp) 35.74
12 khasi (chaubey) 40.21
13 burmanese (chaubey) 42.25
14 garo (chaubey) 45.01
15 iban (xing) 46.92
16 miao (hgdp) 50.77
17 singapore-chinese (sgvp) 52.55
18 onge (reich) 52.68
19 great-andamanese (reich) 53.95
20 chinese (xing) 54.37

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 66.9% dai (hgdp) + 33.1% aus (reich) @ 3.14
2 67.2% dai-chinese (1000genomes) + 32.8% aus (reich) @ 4.22
3 63.8% tongan (xing) + 36.2% garo (chaubey) @ 4.66
4 62.3% tongan (xing) + 37.7% burmanese (chaubey) @ 5.13
5 71.9% tongan (xing) + 28.1% nepalese-b (xing) @ 5.37
6 76.3% tongan (xing) + 23.7% nysha (reich) @ 5.49
7 76.4% tongan (xing) + 23.6% aonaga (reich) @ 5.7
8 75.8% tongan (xing) + 24.2% tibet (simonson) @ 5.76
9 76% tongan (xing) + 24% naga (metspalu) @ 5.77
10 72.6% tongan (xing) + 27.4% naxi (hgdp) @ 5.83
11 73.8% tongan (xing) + 26.2% tu (hgdp) @ 5.86
12 72.4% tongan (xing) + 27.6% yi (hgdp) @ 5.94
13 77.8% khmer-cambodian (xing) + 22.2% papuan (hgdp) @ 6.47
14 70.8% khmer-cambodian (xing) + 29.2% melanesian (hgdp) @ 6.55
15 74.3% tongan (xing) + 25.7% han-nchina (hgdp) @ 6.55
16 73.9% tongan (xing) + 26.1% japanese (hgdp) @ 6.7
17 76% samoan (xing) + 24% nysha (reich) @ 6.93
18 71.6% samoan (xing) + 28.4% nepalese-b (xing) @ 6.93
19 73.2% tongan (xing) + 26.8% chinese-beijing (1000genomes) @ 6.99
20 67% dai-chinese (1000genomes) + 33% melanesian (hgdp) @ 7.01



2. Second individual. This girl seems to either be from Nusa Tenggara Timur (not sure which island, there are so many of them) or Sulawesi.

HarappaWorld: Interestingly, she seems to have high Oceanian and decent amount of Indian at the same time.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 SE-Asian 58.63
2 Papuan 17.31
3 NE-Asian 8.9
4 S-Indian 8.46
5 Siberian 4.02
6 NE-Euro 0.79
7 SW-Asian 0.66
8 Caucasian 0.47
9 E-African 0.46
10 Mediterranean 0.3

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 thai (xing) 19.56
2 samoan (xing) 19.79
3 singapore-malay (sgvp) 20.63
4 khmer-cambodian (xing) 21.06
5 cambodian (hgdp) 21.78
6 tongan (xing) 22.97
7 dai (hgdp) 30.52
8 dai-chinese (1000genomes) 31.09
9 kinh (1000genomes) 32.09
10 lahu (hgdp) 33.57
11 iban (xing) 33.59
12 vietnamese (xing) 34.21
13 khasi (chaubey) 41.59
14 burmanese (chaubey) 47.54
15 garo (chaubey) 50.54
16 onge (reich) 54.17
17 great-andamanese (reich) 55.13
18 miao (hgdp) 57.39
19 juang (chaubey) 58.84
20 bonda (chaubey) 59.01

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 83.8% cambodian (hgdp) + 16.2% papuan (hgdp) @ 2.07
2 78.7% cambodian (hgdp) + 21.3% melanesian (hgdp) @ 2.53
3 79.2% cambodian (hgdp) + 20.8% aus (reich) @ 3.36
4 80.2% singapore-malay (sgvp) + 19.8% aus (reich) @ 4.03
5 68.1% samoan (xing) + 31.9% khasi (chaubey) @ 4.09
6 84.8% singapore-malay (sgvp) + 15.2% papuan (hgdp) @ 4.57
7 80% singapore-malay (sgvp) + 20% melanesian (hgdp) @ 5.06
8 54.3% thai (xing) + 45.7% tongan (xing) @ 5.64
9 72.6% samoan (xing) + 27.4% garo (chaubey) @ 5.75
10 71.4% samoan (xing) + 28.6% burmanese (chaubey) @ 5.81
11 52.4% khmer-cambodian (xing) + 47.6% tongan (xing) @ 6.14
12 81.2% thai (xing) + 18.8% melanesian (hgdp) @ 6.54
13 80.1% khmer-cambodian (xing) + 19.9% melanesian (hgdp) @ 7
14 79.7% samoan (xing) + 20.3% nepalese-b (xing) @ 7.47
15 86.2% thai (xing) + 13.8% papuan (hgdp) @ 7.78
16 50.4% thai (xing) + 49.6% samoan (xing) @ 8.1
17 85.2% khmer-cambodian (xing) + 14.8% papuan (hgdp) @ 8.25
18 65.6% tongan (xing) + 34.4% khasi (chaubey) @ 8.43
19 51.9% samoan (xing) + 48.1% khmer-cambodian (xing) @ 8.52
20 79.5% samoan (xing) + 20.5% nepalese-c (xing) @ 9.25



Both have lots of ENA blood. So, it shows Oceanians in oracles.

[Maguzanci]

Both have lots of ENA blood. So, it shows Oceanians in oracles.

ENA as in Eastern Non-African? The regions of Indonesia they come from indeed have a lot of Oceanian admixture due to close geographical proximity to Papua and Melanesia.

Do you think their S Indian admixture is genuine or something Negrito/local AASI related?

[Kaazi]

ENA as in Eastern Non-African? The regions of Indonesia they come from indeed have a lot of Oceanian admixture due to close geographical proximity to Papua and Melanesia.

Do you think their S Indian admixture is genuine or something Negrito/local AASI related?

It doesn't have any Iran Neolithic related blood. Even the South Indian tribals have decent amount of Iran Neolithic. So, I guess it's pre-IVC or Negrito/ENA (Eastern Non-African) related.

[Maguzanci]

It doesn't have any Iran Neolithic related blood. Even the South Indian tribals have decent amount of Iran Neolithic. So, I guess it's pre-IVC or Negrito/ENA (Eastern Non-African) related.

You could be right. The only way to know is to get them to do G25 or other calculators that have a clear split between AASI and Iran Farmer components which Kurd was the creator aka Eurasia/Gedrosia calculators. (before he was banned from Anthrogenica). I am so upset at the admins that banned him because he also remove those Eurasia calculators from Gedmatch.

[KuakoVoice]

ENA as in Eastern Non-African? The regions of Indonesia they come from indeed have a lot of Oceanian admixture due to close geographical proximity to Papua and Melanesia.

Do you think their S Indian admixture is genuine or something Negrito/local AASI related?

I definitely believe our so called South Indian admixture is more a local and unstudied and tested Australoid type Native to the Region.Me and some other Moluccans compared our GEDMatch results to some Samoans and they turned out to have alot more "Melano-Polynesian" while we had alot more "Australoid".However we all had both.Eastern Indonesia and Melanesia is very understudied.There is also other heavily admixed Austronesian speaking populations in Coastal Papua New Guinea and the Solomon Islands who closely resemble native Moluccan and Timorese people.HumanPhenotypes calls our most common phenotype "Malayo-Melanesid" and it's most common in East Timor,Eastern Indonesia (east of Sulawesi),and Coastal Papua New Guinea.

[Maguzanci]

I definitely believe our so called South Indian admixture is more a local and unstudied and tested Australoid type Native to the Region.Me and some other Moluccans compared our GEDMatch results to some Samoans and they turned out to have alot more "Melano-Polynesian" while we had alot more "Australoid".However we all had both.Eastern Indonesia and Melanesia is very understudied.There is also other heavily admixed Austronesian speaking populations in Coastal Papua New Guinea and the Solomon Islands who closely resemble native Moluccan and Timorese people.HumanPhenotypes calls our most common phenotype "Malayo-Melanesid" and it's most common in East Timor,Eastern Indonesia (east of Sulawesi),and Coastal Papua New Guinea.

Interesting. Yes the region is very understudied.

You and your mom and the half Afram half Moluccan cousin and his mom should also do Global 25 by Davidski in case you are interested to learn more about how ancient your DNA is.

[Maguzanci]

Food for thought,the Moluccans who were the actual Spice trading Kingdoms who had the most contact with the Arab and Indian and Chinese traders was the North Moluccans from Ternate and Tidore.For the most part Southern,Central Maluku and East Nusa Tengarra was more removed from the Outside world. In fact our area is the only part of Southeast Asia to lack Buddhist,Confucian,and Hindu "Asian" influences in our cultures.We went from typical Indigineous Animists to Islam and Christianity.Same for other Oceanians to Christianity.Its one of the biggest differences I can think of between Oceanians and most other Southeast Asians,is the lack of Buddhist,Hindu,and Confucian cultural values and influences.

Central Maluku like Ambon I personally believe my mother and my cousins mother are showing European admixture rather than Arab or Indian,and I think our South Asian is really just an unidentified as of now type of Australoid unique to Wallacea.Central Moluccans almost always have either Christian or Jewish Biblical names with Indigineous Oceanian last names such as "Latu".We also were some of the first Christian converts outside of West Eurasia and Europe.

Do you think those who come from islands like Sulawesi, Sumbawa, Sumba, Flores, Timor will have more actual South Asian admixture than Moluccans do? Because the two individuals that I posted seem to show some genuine South Asian ancestry for Eastern Indonesians.

Do you think North Moluccans would have Arab and Indian admixture? And I guess Central Moluccan mainly got their Caucasoid DNA from Europeans?

[KuakoVoice]

Do you think those who come from islands like Sulawesi, Sumbawa, Sumba, Flores, Timor will have more actual South Asian admixture than Moluccans do? Because the two individuals that I posted seem to show some genuine South Asian ancestry for Eastern Indonesians.

Do you think North Moluccans would have Arab and Indian admixture? And I guess Central Moluccan mainly got their Caucasoid DNA from Europeans?

East Nusa Tengarra including East Timor is actually even more isolated than Maluku and West Papua.However there is and was a giant trade route from Arabia and East Africa all the way to the Birds Head of West Papua and Cendrawasih Bay.So it is possible especially for Sulawesi to have more Indian admixture.

From my observation and what I have been told by both other Moluccans and West Papuans is that for the Maluku island's,the more North you get the more Islamic and Austronesian/Malay you get while the further South you go such as Aru,Kei,Babar Islands the more Papuan admixture becomes stronger until in Kei and Aru people are decidedly more Papuan/Melanesian looking than anything else.For the island of Timor the more East you go and the more interior Mountains the Papuan influence and also Papuan languages become more prominent.

However,theres alot of variations and contradictions in Eastern Indonesia.For instance the more phenotypically Austronesian/Malay looking North Moluccans actually speak Papuan languages like Tidorese,while in South Maluku and even West Papua many phenotypically Melanesian tribes actually speak Austronesian languages.This is a legacy of how Wallacea/Eastern Indonesia is a hodgepodge contact zone of Austronesian and Melanesian influences. A very complex region indeed both ethnically and linguistically.

[KuakoVoice]

Interesting. Yes the region is very understudied.

You and your mom and the half Afram half Moluccan cousin and his mom should also do Global 25 by Davidski in case you are interested to learn more about how ancient your DNA is.

Also based on GEDmatch results and also even other articles about East Timor,there is actually three different waves of migration to the area with one being Austronesian,and the other two older ones actually being of TWO different types of Australoid.The first one was related to Aboriginals and Veddoids and the second migration was Papuans who either sailed West from New Guinea,or came to Wallacea straight from Africa and India.

[Maguzanci]

It doesn't have any Iran Neolithic related blood. Even the South Indian tribals have decent amount of Iran Neolithic. So, I guess it's pre-IVC or Negrito/ENA (Eastern Non-African) related.

I think it depends on the calculator. Gedrosia K12 shows these two Eastern Indonesian gedmatch kits (from the OP) to plausibly have minor Iran Neolithic-related ancestry.

1. First woman. The one that I assumed is from Sumbawa based on her lastname. Around 0.7% Baloch and around 1.58% West Eurasian. I'm sure some more Caucasoid is hiding in the South Indian component because in other calculators, she has more around 3-4% Caucasoid admixture. In Eurogenes K9b where there is no South Asian component, she is almost 5% West Eurasian (which means the S_Indian is absorbing some West Eurasian affinities).

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 SE_ASIAN 46.41
2 S_INDIAN 20.1
3 INDO_TIBETAN 11.37
4 W_SIBERIAN 10.47
5 E_SIBERIAN 5.5
6 E_AFRICAN 3.16
7 SUB_SAHARAN 1.51
8 SINTASHTA_STEPPE_HERDERS 0.78
9 BALOCHI 0.7


The oracles are crappy though.


Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Mongola 24.32
2 Naga 28.72
3 Ulchi 41.83
4 Uzbek 45.23
5 Turkmen_Afghan 50.65
6 Tajik_Afghan 53.12
7 Uzbek_Afghan 54.76
8 Bhunjia 59.72
9 Nepali 59.93
10 Kurds_SE 62.88
11 Ami 63.1
12 Pathan 63.31
13 GujaratiA 63.56
14 Pashtun_Afghan 63.8
15 UP_Brahmin 64.11
16 Tajik_Pomiri 64.39
17 GujaratiB 64.4
18 Turks_Aydin 64.5
19 Sindhi 64.66
20 Yukagir 65.19

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 73.1% Mongola + 26.9% Bhunjia @ 11.24
2 76.5% Mongola + 23.5% Nihali @ 12.11
3 78.6% Mongola + 21.4% Hakkipikki @ 12.81
4 77.4% Mongola + 22.6% AP_Chenchu @ 12.9
5 76.1% Mongola + 23.9% Gond @ 13.02
6 78.3% Mongola + 21.7% UP_Chamar @ 13.09
7 78.1% Mongola + 21.9% Piramalai @ 13.15
8 77.5% Mongola + 22.5% UP_Caste @ 13.43
9 78% Mongola + 22% Kurumba @ 13.44
10 77.2% Mongola + 22.8% Kanjar @ 13.62
11 76.7% Mongola + 23.3% Tharu @ 13.74
12 76.8% Mongola + 23.2% UP_Kol @ 13.74
13 77.7% Mongola + 22.3% Velamas @ 13.84
14 77% Mongola + 23% UP_Muslim @ 14
15 77.6% Mongola + 22.4% GujaratiD @ 14.03
16 77.7% Mongola + 22.3% Meghawal @ 14.52
17 77.1% Mongola + 22.9% GujaratiC @ 14.77
18 76.9% Mongola + 23.1% UP_Brahmin @ 15.55
19 77.1% Mongola + 22.9% GujaratiB @ 15.72
20 71% Naga + 29% Bhunjia @ 16.56


2. Second female. This is the one that I suspected that she is either from Sulawesi or probably somewhere like Sumba or Sumbawa. Around 2.19% Baloch admix and in total around 5% West Eurasian in this calculator. In Eurogenes K9b where there is no South Asian component, she is approximately 7% West Eurasian.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 SE_ASIAN 46.49
2 S_INDIAN 18.77
3 INDO_TIBETAN 11.14
4 W_SIBERIAN 9.32
5 E_AFRICAN 4.38
6 E_SIBERIAN 3.93
7 BALOCHI 2.19
8 EARLY_EUROPEAN_FARMERS 1.94
9 SUB_SAHARAN 0.82
10 SW_ASIAN 0.67
11 SINTASHTA_STEPPE_HERDERS 0.35

The oracles are also shitty here:


Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Mongola 24.66
2 Naga 28.68
3 Ulchi 43.03
4 Uzbek 44.81
5 Turkmen_Afghan 50.09
6 Tajik_Afghan 52.46
7 Uzbek_Afghan 53.85
8 Nepali 59.77
9 Bhunjia 60.55
10 Kurds_SE 62.14
11 Ami 62.4
12 Pathan 62.77
13 Pashtun_Afghan 63.1
14 GujaratiA 63.32
15 Turks_Aydin 63.48
16 Tajik_Pomiri 63.76
17 Sindhi 64.13
18 UP_Brahmin 64.23
19 GujaratiB 64.39
20 Turks_Balikesir 64.6

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 73.8% Mongola + 26.2% Bhunjia @ 12.84
2 77% Mongola + 23% Nihali @ 13.51
3 79% Mongola + 21% Hakkipikki @ 14.06
4 76.4% Mongola + 23.6% Gond @ 14.09
5 77.8% Mongola + 22.2% AP_Chenchu @ 14.09
6 78.4% Mongola + 21.6% Piramalai @ 14.17
7 78.7% Mongola + 21.3% UP_Chamar @ 14.24
8 78.2% Mongola + 21.8% Kurumba @ 14.38
9 77.8% Mongola + 22.2% UP_Caste @ 14.42
10 77.5% Mongola + 22.5% Kanjar @ 14.55
11 77.9% Mongola + 22.1% Velamas @ 14.6
12 76.9% Mongola + 23.1% Tharu @ 14.61
13 77% Mongola + 23% UP_Kol @ 14.63
14 77.7% Mongola + 22.3% GujaratiD @ 14.77
15 77.2% Mongola + 22.8% UP_Muslim @ 14.87
16 77.8% Mongola + 22.2% Meghawal @ 15.18
17 77.2% Mongola + 22.8% GujaratiC @ 15.37
18 76.9% Mongola + 23.1% UP_Brahmin @ 16.07
19 77% Mongola + 23% GujaratiB @ 16.12
20 71.8% Naga + 28.2% Bhunjia @ 17.35

[KuakoVoice]

Interesting. Yes the region is very understudied.

You and your mom and the half Afram half Moluccan cousin and his mom should also do Global 25 by Davidski in case you are interested to learn more about how ancient your DNA is.

Speaking of which,what is the difference on GEDMatch between "Melano Polynesian" and "Australoid"?They are two seperate categories yet both are Australoid?It supports the three wave theory on East Timor and Eastern Indonesia though.

[KuakoVoice]

Excerpt from a Geneticist on Eastern Indonesia

https://ibb.co/3WqyyDh

[Maguzanci]

East Nusa Tengarra including East Timor is actually even more isolated than Maluku and West Papua.However there is and was a giant trade route from Arabia and East Africa all the way to the Birds Head of West Papua and Cendrawasih Bay.So it is possible especially for Sulawesi to have more Indian admixture.

From my observation and what I have been told by both other Moluccans and West Papuans is that for the Maluku island's,the more North you get the more Islamic and Austronesian/Malay you get while the further South you go such as Aru,Kei,Babar Islands the more Papuan admixture becomes stronger until in Kei and Aru people are decidedly more Papuan/Melanesian looking than anything else.For the island of Timor the more East you go and the more interior Mountains the Papuan influence and also Papuan languages become more prominent.

However,theres alot of variations and contradictions in Eastern Indonesia.For instance the more phenotypically Austronesian/Malay looking North Moluccans actually speak Papuan languages like Tidorese,while in South Maluku and even West Papua many phenotypically Melanesian tribes actually speak Austronesian languages.This is a legacy of how Wallacea/Eastern Indonesia is a hodgepodge contact zone of Austronesian and Melanesian influences. A very complex region indeed both ethnically and linguistically.

Interesting. Yes I also believe that Sulawesi especially the Western and Southern Sulawesi would have some Indian admixture. Because there has been an evidence that the Mandarese (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandarese_people), an ethnic group related to the Bugis and Makassarese, also have some Caucasoid Y-DNA haplogroups like the R1a, R2a and J2, the first two seem to be derived from Indians while the last one can be either from Arabs or Indians. This means that the Mandarese and other Western and Southern Sulawesi ethnic groups might have some Caucasoid admix from minor Indian and West Asian gene flow as well. Also the Bajo who are Austronesian sea nomads, who also have a lot of Oceanian admixture, living in or close to Sulawesi shows a lot of Indian Y-DNA haplogroups as well which also suggest Caucasoid admixture from South Asians.

https://i.imgur.com/9Zk85aE.png

Btw there was a recent DNA paper where they found out that the Bajo from Derawan Islands in Eastern Kalimantan and Kotabaru Regency in Southern Kalimantan which is geographically close to Sulawesi have around 6% Indian ancestry on average; so yep its likely that Western, Southern and maybe Northern parts of Sulawesi would have some Indian gene flow as well if the precolonial Indian traders need to sail to the Philippines, they will have to pass through Sulawesi first and some of them might just settled down on the island. Here is the link to the study: https://www.nature.com/articles/ejhg201788#Fig3

Interesting. Although I believe its possible that some parts of Nusa Tenggara Timur especially Western Flores and parts of Sumba island likely have minor Indian admixture as well due to the close geographic distance to Sumbawa and Lombok which used to be under Bali's sphere of influence. There is a Hindu archaeological site in Sumbawa called Wadu Pa'a stone carvings: https://www.roamindonesia.com/sumbawa/sumbawa-attractions/wadu-paa-stone-carvings/

And also this stone inscription unearthed in Sumbawa called Wadu Tunti: https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prasasti_Wadu_Tunti (I used google translate as I don't really know Bahasa Indonesian) which are evidences of South Asian cultural imprint on the island and I can see easily see this Indian influence to neighboring Flores or Sumba which close to Sumbawa.

The Manggarai of Western Flores are on average almost 7% South Indian and 0.27% South-Central Asian (its a good indicator of Indian genetic signal as most South Asian populations score them) on MDLP K23b (if you checked the spreadsheet for the calc on Gedmatch) and I believe that some of the "South Indian" they have is actual gene flow from the Indian subcontinent. Meanwhile the Lamaholot and Lembata who are also from Flores and Solor, shows almost 5 to 6% South Indian but almost zero South-Central Asian, while the Kambera from Eastern Sumba are around 4% South Indian on MDLP K23b. And as you discussed in your earlier posts, the South Indian they are scoring could indeed be local Australoid although I think some of that South Indian segment could be indicators of actual South Asian admixture as well.

So yes I think you are correct that East Nusa Tenggara more isolated but I can see some areas of the islands especially Western part of Flores and Sumba which is closer to Sumbawa and Lombok also having potential minor South Asian admixture as well.

In that case I wonder where in Indonesia is the contact point where Indians and Papuans come meet face to face? Somewhere in Sulawesi (they score notable amount of Oceanian based on some of the DNA results that I saw from the island) or Sumbawa (the first gedmatch individual in the OP is from the island and she is around 20-23% Papuan genetically)?

Hmm I see. I suspected North Moluccan DNA results would show their Caucasoid to be mainly MENA-derived along with higher Mongoloid while those in the South would be purer Melanesian? I wonder would Kei and Aru inhabitants be predominantly Melanesian like 80% Papuan and 20% Austronesian Mongoloid? I see that's nice.

Wow. That's strange indeed. I think its similar case also in Soloomon Islands and Vanuatu where the phenotypically Melanesian looking tribes speak Austronesian languages instead of Papuan.

[KuakoVoice]

Interesting. Yes I also believe that Sulawesi especially the Western and Southern Sulawesi would have some Indian admixture. Because there has been an evidence that the Mandarese (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandarese_people), an ethnic group related to the Bugis and Makassarese, also have some Caucasoid Y-DNA haplogroups like the R1a, R2a and J2, the first two seem to be derived from Indians while the last one can be either from Arabs or Indians. This means that the Mandarese and other Western and Southern Sulawesi ethnic groups might have some Caucasoid admix from minor Indian and West Asian gene flow as well. Also the Bajo who are Austronesian sea nomads, who also have a lot of Oceanian admixture, living in or close to Sulawesi shows a lot of Indian Y-DNA haplogroups as well which also suggest Caucasoid admixture from South Asians.

https://i.imgur.com/9Zk85aE.png

Btw there was a recent DNA paper where they found out that the Bajo from Derawan Islands in Eastern Kalimantan and Kotabaru Regency in Southern Kalimantan which is geographically close to Sulawesi have around 6% Indian ancestry on average; so yep its likely that Western, Southern and maybe Northern parts of Sulawesi would have some Indian gene flow as well if the precolonial Indian traders need to sail to the Philippines, they will have to pass through Sulawesi first and some of them might just settled down on the island. Here is the link to the study: https://www.nature.com/articles/ejhg201788#Fig3

Interesting. Although I believe its possible that some parts of Nusa Tenggara Timur especially Western Flores and parts of Sumba island likely have minor Indian admixture as well due to the close geographic distance to Sumbawa and Lombok which used to be under Bali's sphere of influence. There is a Hindu archaeological site in Sumbawa called Wadu Pa'a stone carvings: https://www.roamindonesia.com/sumbawa/sumbawa-attractions/wadu-paa-stone-carvings/

And also this stone inscription unearthed in Sumbawa called Wadu Tunti: https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prasasti_Wadu_Tunti (I used google translate as I don't really know Bahasa Indonesian) which are evidences of South Asian cultural imprint on the island and I can see easily see this Indian influence to neighboring Flores or Sumba which close to Sumbawa.

The Manggarai of Western Flores are on average almost 7% South Indian and 0.27% South-Central Asian (its a good indicator of Indian genetic signal as most South Asian populations score them) on MDLP K23b (if you checked the spreadsheet for the calc on Gedmatch) and I believe that some of the "South Indian" they have is actual gene flow from the Indian subcontinent. Meanwhile the Lamaholot and Lembata who are also from Flores and Solor, shows almost 5 to 6% South Indian but almost zero South-Central Asian, while the Kambera from Eastern Sumba are around 4% South Indian on MDLP K23b. And as you discussed in your earlier posts, the South Indian they are scoring could indeed be local Australoid although I think some of that South Indian segment could be indicators of actual South Asian admixture as well.

So yes I think you are correct that East Nusa Tenggara more isolated but I can see some areas of the islands especially Western part of Flores and Sumba which is closer to Sumbawa and Lombok also having potential minor South Asian admixture as well.

In that case I wonder where in Indonesia is the contact point where Indians and Papuans come meet face to face? Somewhere in Sulawesi (they score notable amount of Oceanian based on some of the DNA results that I saw from the island) or Sumbawa (the first gedmatch individual in the OP is from the island and she is around 20-23% Papuan genetically)?

Hmm I see. I suspected North Moluccan DNA results would show their Caucasoid to be mainly MENA-derived along with higher Mongoloid while those in the South would be purer Melanesian? I wonder would Kei and Aru inhabitants be predominantly Melanesian like 80% Papuan and 20% Austronesian Mongoloid? I see that's nice.

Wow. That's strange indeed. I think its similar case also in Soloomon Islands and Vanuatu where the phenotypically Melanesian looking tribes speak Austronesian languages instead of Papuan.

I think Halmahera in North Maluku with it's old Kingdoms like Ternate and Tidore is where Papuan and Indian/Arab influences meet face to face. North Maluku,specifically the Island of Halmahera is where the aforementioned Papuan languages written in Arabic scripts is located.The Kingdoms itself were also mostly Islamic.North Maluku has alot of linguistic,ethnic,and trading relations with the Birds Head of West Papua and Cendrawish Bay to the point that Raja Ampat in West Papua is mostly Muslim and they do the same War Dance as most Moluccans,the Cakalele.I swear Eastern Indonesia can be so weird,lol.Oceania in general tbh.Unique is a better term perhaps.They also found Birds of Paradise feathers all the way in ancient Mesopotamia so West Papua was directly or indirectly connected to the Indian Ocean Spice Trade route too.

[Maguzanci]

Speaking of which,what is the difference on GEDMatch between "Melano Polynesian" and "Australoid"?They are two seperate categories yet both are Australoid?It supports the three wave theory on East Timor and Eastern Indonesia though.

Im not exactly sure either. Maybe Melano-Polynesian contains Mongoloid Austronesian blood while Australoid is purely Oceanian/Papuan?

[Maguzanci]

I think Halmahera in North Maluku with it's old Kingdoms like Ternate and Tidore is where Papuan and Indian/Arab influences meet face to face. North Maluku,specifically the Island of Halmahera is where the aforementioned Papuan languages written in Arabic scripts is located.The Kingdoms itself were also mostly Islamic.North Maluku has alot of linguistic,ethnic,and trading relations with the Birds Head of West Papua and Cendrawish Bay to the point that Raja Ampat in West Papua is mostly Muslim and they do the same War Dance as most Moluccans,the Cakalele.I swear Eastern Indonesia can be so weird,lol.Oceania in general tbh.Unique is a better term perhaps.They also found Birds of Paradise feathers all the way in ancient Mesopotamia so West Papua was directly or indirectly connected to the Indian Ocean Spice Trade route too.

Interesting. There are Muslim Papuans in Raja Ampat or are they also Moluccans? I would be interested to see DNA results of North Moluccans from Halmahera. Almost all the Moluccan gedmatch kits seem to be Christians from Central and South Maluku I would guess based on their names (which sounds Christian). The second girl I posted in the OP seem to be a good example of when Papuans/Melanesians, Indians/Arabs and Austronesians meet face to face. She seems to be Eastern Indonesian based on her DNA results but I don't know her ethnicity or which island she is originally from. But from some reason I feel her Indian admixture seems relatively high compared to most Eastern Indonesian results that I saw, so I actually suspected that she might be partially Western Indonesian admixed as her Indian ancestry is literally the same amount as what other Indo DNA results from Java, Bali would score.

Eurogenes K13

# Population Percent
1 East_Asian 65.22
2 Oceanian 18.25
3 South_Asian 12.27
4 Baltic 2.39
5 Northeast_African 0.8
6 Siberian 0.5
7 East_Med 0.47
8 West_Med 0.11

MDLP K23b

# Population Percent
1 Austronesian 39.78
2 South_East_Asian 26.98
3 Australoid 16.14
4 South_Indian 7.1
5 Melano_Polynesian 6.38
6 North_African 1.16
7 European_Hunters_Gatherers 0.68
8 Tungus-Altaic 0.61
9 European_Early_Farmers 0.6
10 South_Central_Asian 0.38
11 Archaic_Human 0.17

PuntDNAL Global K13

# Population Percent
1 SE_Asia 45.34
2 NE_Asia 21.94
3 Oceania 17.81
4 South_Asia 9.17
5 NE_Europe 2.28
6 East_Africa 0.88
7 Siberia 0.86
8 SW_Europe 0.85
9 SW_Asia 0.75
10 West_Africa 0.12

The first woman in the OP who seem to be from Sumbawa that I posted also seem to be a good example of what happened when Austronesians, Papuans and Indians/Arabs meet face to face. But she has less Indian than the second female but it still seems higher than most Eastern Indonesian results that I saw.

Eurogenes K13

# Population Percent
1 East_Asian 64.08
2 Oceanian 23.71
3 South_Asian 8.76
4 Baltic 1.67
5 Sub-Saharan 0.61
6 West_Med 0.55
7 Amerindian 0.51
8 Northeast_African 0.11

MDLP K23b


# Population Percent
1 Austronesian 37.07
2 South_East_Asian 26.8
3 Australoid 20.61
4 Melano_Polynesian 6.34
5 South_Indian 5.91
6 Tungus-Altaic 2.74
7 Archaic_African 0.25
8 European_Hunters_Gatherers 0.16
9 East_African 0.12

PuntDNAL Global K13

# Population Percent
1 SE_Asia 42.61
2 NE_Asia 23.98
3 Oceania 22.62
4 South_Asia 7.15
5 West_Asia 1.75
6 West_Africa 0.87
7 NE_Europe 0.82
8 Americas 0.2

Its sucks that Eastern Indonesian samples are so rare in Gedmatch compared to those of Western Indonesians.

Btw I also have some Sulawesi gedmatch kits (I presumed that they are from the island based on how high Oceanian they have compared to those from Western regions like Java, Sumatra) if you want to see their results.

[KuakoVoice]

Interesting. There are Muslim Papuans in Raja Ampat or are they also Moluccans? I would be interested to see DNA results of North Moluccans from Halmahera. Almost all the Moluccan gedmatch kits seem to be Christians from Central and South Maluku I would guess based on their names (which sounds Christian). The second girl I posted in the OP seem to be a good example of when Papuans/Melanesians, Indians/Arabs and Austronesians meet face to face. She seems to be Eastern Indonesian based on her DNA results but I don't know her ethnicity or which island she is originally from. But from some reason I feel her Indian admixture seems relatively high compared to most Eastern Indonesian results that I saw, so I actually suspected that she might be partially Western Indonesian admixed as her Indian ancestry is literally the same amount as what other Indo DNA results from Java, Bali would score.

Eurogenes K13

# Population Percent
1 East_Asian 65.22
2 Oceanian 18.25
3 South_Asian 12.27
4 Baltic 2.39
5 Northeast_African 0.8
6 Siberian 0.5
7 East_Med 0.47
8 West_Med 0.11

MDLP K23b

# Population Percent
1 Austronesian 39.78
2 South_East_Asian 26.98
3 Australoid 16.14
4 South_Indian 7.1
5 Melano_Polynesian 6.38
6 North_African 1.16
7 European_Hunters_Gatherers 0.68
8 Tungus-Altaic 0.61
9 European_Early_Farmers 0.6
10 South_Central_Asian 0.38
11 Archaic_Human 0.17

PuntDNAL Global K13

# Population Percent
1 SE_Asia 45.34
2 NE_Asia 21.94
3 Oceania 17.81
4 South_Asia 9.17
5 NE_Europe 2.28
6 East_Africa 0.88
7 Siberia 0.86
8 SW_Europe 0.85
9 SW_Asia 0.75
10 West_Africa 0.12

The first woman in the OP who seem to be from Sumbawa that I posted also seem to be a good example of what happened when Austronesians, Papuans and Indians/Arabs meet face to face. But she has less Indian than the second female but it still seems higher than most Eastern Indonesian results that I saw.

Eurogenes K13

# Population Percent
1 East_Asian 64.08
2 Oceanian 23.71
3 South_Asian 8.76
4 Baltic 1.67
5 Sub-Saharan 0.61
6 West_Med 0.55
7 Amerindian 0.51
8 Northeast_African 0.11

MDLP K23b


# Population Percent
1 Austronesian 37.07
2 South_East_Asian 26.8
3 Australoid 20.61
4 Melano_Polynesian 6.34
5 South_Indian 5.91
6 Tungus-Altaic 2.74
7 Archaic_African 0.25
8 European_Hunters_Gatherers 0.16
9 East_African 0.12

PuntDNAL Global K13

# Population Percent
1 SE_Asia 42.61
2 NE_Asia 23.98
3 Oceania 22.62
4 South_Asia 7.15
5 West_Asia 1.75
6 West_Africa 0.87
7 NE_Europe 0.82
8 Americas 0.2

Its sucks that Eastern Indonesian samples are so rare in Gedmatch compared to those of Western Indonesians.

Btw I also have some Sulawesi gedmatch kits (I presumed that they are from the island based on how high Oceanian they have compared to those from Western regions like Java, Sumatra) if you want to see their results.

They are actual Muslim Papuans in Raja Ampat and they also Cakalele.They had heavy ties to North Maluku historically,linguistically they share a language family distinct to that area,and probably ethnically.